Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: TruthBeTold on January 01, 2010, 10:13:25 AM
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i just thought id post this image incase any of you havent seen it before, it just about proves the bodies were switched.
(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/7458/13048130247212579713502.jpg)
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Hmm interesting. :shock:
So which one was Mike since there's 2 body?
If he's not even there, then what is the reason for the 2 body being there? :?
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To me it somehow looks as if the one in front is a body and in the background it just seems to be a white stretcher.
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i hadn't even heard this thoery!! better go and do some readin.. :shock: *grabs glasses* :geek:
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There was a video a while back that showed the stretcher with a body on it and strapped going into the helicopter and a stretcher with no straps and sort of flat (certainly didn't look like a body on it) going into the van. All so wierd! :shock:
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When you think about it when have you seen a body like that never is the answer it must be a. Big clue for us
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Here's a good video showing the straps on a "body" in the helicopter I guess as it sat on the hospital. Goto .44 mark:
[youtube:1uqa1ill]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jModUKEKww[/youtube:1uqa1ill]
OMG... come on! there is SO another body in there !!!! :shock:
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Hmm interesting. :shock:
So which one was Mike since there's 2 body?
If he's not even there, then what is the reason for the 2 body being there? :?
Well... someone said that a helicopter landed at neverland later that day... so the one with the black straps that doesnt come out could be michael ??
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Hmm interesting. :shock:
So which one was Mike since there's 2 body?
If he's not even there, then what is the reason for the 2 body being there? :?
Well... someone said that a helicopter landed at neverland later that day... so the one with the black straps that doesnt come out could be michael ??
Err umm... confused lols. Let's see, if Mike is alive why would he suffocate himself in a whitebag like that? (http://i45.tinypic.com/2v27907.png)
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but WHYYY!!! why 2 'bodies'??
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This confuses me!(I saw it already once)
Wanted they to deflect to us (clearly), however, why 2 bodies? The level body came from the Helicopter ....... and the other? God what is with the other....
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The video does not show the body of Michael being placed inside the helicopter.
I have a question: is there a video showing the arrival of the helicopter at the coroner? I never saw any videos.
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The video does not show the body of Michael being placed inside the helicopter.
I have a question: is there a video showing the arrival of the helicopter at the coroner? I never saw any videos.
There's footage of the body being transported from the heli to the coroner's van, and then there's footage of the coroner's van arriving at the coroner's garage.
Well, and then there's footage of Michael umping out of the coroner's van nside the garage :lol: :lol: :lol:
I read, that the media lost track of the helicopter :?
But I don'T know when they lost track - before or after the 'body' was put to thecoroner's van.
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Hmm interesting. :shock:
So which one was Mike since there's 2 body?
If he's not even there, then what is the reason for the 2 body being there? :?
Well... someone said that a helicopter landed at neverland later that day... so the one with the black straps that doesnt come out could be michael ??
Err umm... confused lols. Let's see, if Mike is alive why would he suffocate himself in a whitebag like that? (http://i45.tinypic.com/2v27907.png)
hmm true.. but it is possible to get bags that have tiny holes in so you can breathe through them.,,, and we never get to see that really clear or close up...
Maybe this is why it is white not the standard colour ?
Im probably wrong just clutching at straws here :lol:
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There's footage of the body being transported from the heli to the coroner's van, and then there's footage of the coroner's van arriving at the coroner's garage.
Well, and then there's footage of Michael umping out of the coroner's van nside the garage :lol: :lol: :lol:
I read, that the media lost track of the helicopter :?
But I don'T know when they lost track - before or after the 'body' was put to thecoroner's van.
:shock: :shock: :shock:
This is a big mess. lol! :lol:
So do not really know which one is right: the body out of the van or helicopter coroner?
And lost sight of the path of the helicopter? lol!
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OMG .. it's not good ..
is that michael's body with the straps ? :? :cry:
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OMG .. it's not good ..
is that michael's body with the straps ? :? :cry:
it is good!! it means that if michael is the one with the black straps, he never went to the coroner!.. obviously that shows that the van video is fake, but.. michael didn't went to the coroner and that discrd a lot of statements about his body and his death.
Lot of L.O.V.E!
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OMG .. it's not good ..
is that michael's body with the straps ? :? :cry:
it is good!! it means that if michael is the one with the black straps, he never went to the coroner!.. obviously that shows that the van video is fake, but.. michael didn't went to the coroner and that discrd a lot of statements about his body and his death.
Lot of L.O.V.E!
buT if he's alive why was he there inside the helicopter even covered by that white sheet
:? :(
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Hmm interesting. :shock:
So which one was Mike since there's 2 body?
If he's not even there, then what is the reason for the 2 body being there? :?
Well... someone said that a helicopter landed at neverland later that day... so the one with the black straps that doesnt come out could be michael ??
Err umm... confused lols. Let's see, if Mike is alive why would he suffocate himself in a whitebag like that? (http://i45.tinypic.com/2v27907.png)
If the bag isn't made of that plastic material but just an white tissue, it's no danger of suffocation.
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This confuses me!(I saw it already once)
Wanted they to deflect to us (clearly), however, why 2 bodies? The level body came from the Helicopter ....... and the other? God what is with the other....
Just an idea : what if the helicopter would have taken another 'patient' first , from another hospital? Could this be possible? The helicopter was on duty that day .
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This confuses me!(I saw it already once)
Wanted they to deflect to us (clearly), however, why 2 bodies? The level body came from the Helicopter ....... and the other? God what is with the other....
Just an idea : what if the helicopter would have taken another 'patient' first , from another hospital? Could this be possible? The helicopter was on duty that day .
as far as I know, at least here in Argentina, is not legal to transport 2 bodys at the same time in an helicopter, my cousin is a doctor and he told me that is not possible, but that he didn't know about US laws.
:)
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well what are they going to do with the fake body!! :o and if it is fake how did he get past all the helicopter people and well everyone without getting discovered that its not michael in that bag :o and dont say it is a fake body like a mannequin because i no mj couldnt possibly involve all of hospital staff and helicopter people and all that in a hoax :o :o
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Well... someone said that a helicopter landed at neverland later that day... so the one with the black straps that doesnt come out could be michael ??
Err umm... confused lols. Let's see, if Mike is alive why would he suffocate himself in a whitebag like that? (http://i45.tinypic.com/2v27907.png)
hmm true.. but it is possible to get bags that have tiny holes in so you can breathe through them.,,, and we never get to see that really clear or close up...
Maybe this is why it is white not the standard colour ?
Im probably wrong just clutching at straws here :lol:
Hmm well tiny holes. Make sense though! ;) :lol:
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If the bag isn't made of that plastic material but just an white tissue, it's no danger of suffocation.
Hmm yeah, make sense too! :mrgreen: But, I thought it's still depends on how long the flight is? If the flight is long, then there's still a tiny little chance of suffocation right? Hmmm... (http://i45.tinypic.com/2v27907.png)(http://i45.tinypic.com/2v27907.png) :?
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@ tiida11,
Hmmm yes ....
I also think 2 body may not be simultaneously transported.
Somewhere I saw pictures of the helicopter ....... this grave is not placed near the door ....... :roll:
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I’ve just watched the footage of the body being transferred from the heli to the waiting coroner van. The body is placed onto the waiting gurney still within its cradle (sorry I don't know the technical term). The body is then placed in the van and the doors are about to be closed. It seems that one of the coroner staff almost forgets to give back the cradle to the heli staff. The body is then lifted out of the cradle and seems to be dumped to one side. They way these guys treat the body seems disrespectful.
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More than Disrespectful :!:
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Hi there
This is the first time I am posting something. I have been following you guys since August and have to say you did a great job! Whenever I felt down and like no one understands me or thinks I'm weird because I believe in the hoax, I come here and feel better when I read thru the investigations or when I see that I am not the only one who feels so empty since Michael "died" this past June.
If it was posted before then sorry!
Now I found this on youtube concerning the Helicopter transport from the Hospital to the Coroners buildung. Its Rescue 5. :?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuKB0hRiE5g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuKB0hRiE5g)
Then there is also a video of the inside of the Helicopter. At the very end (only three seconds) you can get a glimpse of the inside where we think we see a secod person on a strecher and you can see that there are no seats or anything there so it must have been a second stretcher/person! Go to 02:13 8-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP-F9UQd27Q&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP-F9UQd27Q&NR=1)
What are your thoughts?
Happy New Year everyone!
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i dont really see anything but in the 2nd video...what is that thing they are caring to the helicopter...that cant no way be a body on that streture if thats what it is because he was caring by himself at the very begginging...im confused
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I Have got a theory, It is about magic and illusion "Smoke And Mirrors"
Mike arrives "Dead" at the hospital, fire alarm goes off, while the hospital is evacuated he makes off to a waiting car, A dummy is put inplace of him, which is then taken upto the roof and put onto the helicopter. Meanwhile Mike is on his way to the coroners office, to make sure the plans are working to plan, He needs to be there incase something goes wrong and he can play dead for "Press" photographers. He waits for the helicopter to arrive and they switch the stretchers over, just to cause more confusion and stands talking to the security guard at the coroners office, van pulls up, he jumps in, and waits for the guard to open the door and jump out.
So That when he comes back, he can say to the press "THAT WAS ME WHO JUMPED OUT OF THE VAN." Remember Michael was learning magic, and he has learnt off the best, How does Copperfield make himself dissappear and reappear... It's all smoke and mirrors.
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i heard that the video was fake, they were trying to prove a point on how easy it is for rumors to spread via internet
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If the bag isn't made of that plastic material but just an white tissue, it's no danger of suffocation.
Hmm yeah, make sense too! :mrgreen: But, I thought it's still depends on how long the flight is? If the flight is long, then there's still a tiny little chance of suffocation right? Hmmm... (http://i45.tinypic.com/2v27907.png)(http://i45.tinypic.com/2v27907.png) :?
Tiny little holes... same thing... you get the idea...
:lol: ... Nah I dont think so... it would be breatheable.
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If the bag isn't made of that plastic material but just an white tissue, it's no danger of suffocation.
Hmm yeah, make sense too! :mrgreen: But, I thought it's still depends on how long the flight is? If the flight is long, then there's still a tiny little chance of suffocation right? Hmmm... (http://i45.tinypic.com/2v27907.png)(http://i45.tinypic.com/2v27907.png) :?
Tiny little holes... same thing... you get the idea...
:lol: ... Nah I dont think so... it would be breatheable.
Hehe yeah, tiny little holes again! :lol: (http://i48.tinypic.com/2q8pu1j.png)
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What is the normal practice in L.A to transport Bodies from Hospitals to coroner? I thought it would have been by private ambulance not helicopter?
Didn't somebody find proof that that helicopter didn't fly on 25th June at all?
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WOW ! What a good find !!! :mrgreen: no suffocation in this white tissue for sure !!!! On this video, when they close the doors of helicopter, it's soooooo moving inside, what's going on? (look at 1.25)
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I Have got a theory, It is about magic and illusion "Smoke And Mirrors"
Mike arrives "Dead" at the hospital, fire alarm goes off, while the hospital is evacuated he makes off to a waiting car, A dummy is put inplace of him, which is then taken upto the roof and put onto the helicopter. Meanwhile Mike is on his way to the coroners office, to make sure the plans are working to plan, He needs to be there incase something goes wrong and he can play dead for "Press" photographers. He waits for the helicopter to arrive and they switch the stretchers over, just to cause more confusion and stands talking to the security guard at the coroners office, van pulls up, he jumps in, and waits for the guard to open the door and jump out.
So That when he comes back, he can say to the press "THAT WAS ME WHO JUMPED OUT OF THE VAN." Remember Michael was learning magic, and he has learnt off the best, How does Copperfield make himself dissappear and reappear... It's all smoke and mirrors.
Makes me think of the end of the 1992 Bucharest concert when a crew is preparing Michael for leaving by "flying" off dressed in a spacesuit. At one point, it is clear to me that a stunt double switches places with him to do the actual flying, but probably few, if any, of the audience noticed.
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Angel, Good point, I watched that concert recently, i too thought he hid and stunt guy flew off stage, what would the insurance cost of it going wrong and Mike being injured???
Why are people saying he would have suffocated in the cloth or bag, there is one simple way he would've been able to breathe... A straw in his mouth through the cloth but unseen.
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Angel, Good point, I watched that concert recently, i too thought he hid and stunt guy flew off stage, what would the insurance cost of it going wrong and Mike being injured???
Why are people saying he would have suffocated in the cloth or bag, there is one simple way he would've been able to breathe... A straw in his mouth through the cloth but unseen.
True. I think with all his years of experience, these things are just a way of life to him, it would be child's play, not difficult at all for Mike to pull this off.
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Now this is just a thought, but it could just be possible that whether there is 2 bodies are not, it maybe the wrong helicopter,period!! the bodies inside could of been accident victims or old people ect.... we have no solid proof that this was supposed to be mj in that helicopter only news report. So everyone on that day would of expected mj's body going to hospital via this method so would of been watching, hence why no one appears to have seen him at all that day.. i dont believe he was on that heli or anywhere near ucla jmo 8-)
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this finding is the one thing that keeps my questioning and not accepting death, i just dont understand? why two bodies, why on this day at this time? what is the destination of the other trolley?
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Can you explain where you heard that a helicopter landed at Neverland that day? Do you have a video or someone giving a description (i.e., color of copter, time of day, pilot description, etc)? Thanks.
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Can you explain where you heard that a helicopter landed at Neverland that day? Do you have a video or someone giving a description (i.e., color of copter, time of day, pilot description, etc)? Thanks.
THANK YOU FOR ASKNIG THAT i have always questioned wether ppl made that up or there were actual, reliable news out there reporting the heli landing at neverland. I know his family went to Neverland after the death but why? I thought MJ has not gone there in years..i though MJ actually sold his neverland home to get out of debt? Who knows that is one thing that has been bugging me as well :?
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Can you explain where you heard that a helicopter landed at Neverland that day? Do you have a video or someone giving a description (i.e., color of copter, time of day, pilot description, etc)? Thanks.
THANK YOU FOR ASKNIG THAT i have always questioned wether ppl made that up or there were actual, reliable news out there reporting the heli landing at neverland. I know his family went to Neverland after the death but why? I thought MJ has not gone there in years..i though MJ actually sold his neverland home to get out of debt? Who knows that is one thing that has been bugging me as well :?
Helicopters at neverland in JULY
http://www.keyt.com/home/ticker/50176362.html (http://www.keyt.com/home/ticker/50176362.html)
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but WHYYY!!! why 2 'bodies'??
Maybe because there was another body of another UCLA patiant (not related to MJ) who needed to be delivered to the same coroners office. So they thought why not. Save some time for another body too.
That's why the probably used helicopter: the same time (away of traffic jam) for better autopsy.
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but WHYYY!!! why 2 'bodies'??
Maybe because there was another body of another UCLA patiant (not related to MJ) who needed to be delivered to the same coroners office. So they thought why not. Save some time for another body too.
That's why the probably used helicopter: the same time (away of traffic jam) for better autopsy.
And btw, the second body could be already in helicopter before it came to UCLA
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I see nothing odd in two bodies. MJ probably wasnt the one who needed helicopter that day. Legally there's no order not to transport dead MJ with dead someone.
Sorry, guys. :(
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I don't know if it was posted but You gotta watch this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpAiGoVgTAc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpAiGoVgTAc)
at 4.23 don't pay attention to the policeman watch the body you can see the body moving again !
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hmm, the first vid showed folks that said they transported MJ in the heli depicted in the vid. However according the comments it was not the same heli.
The 2nd vid link you provided showed rescue 5 transporting an injured child to the childrens hosp.
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Could this be that the body with straps was Michael's (IF and i repeat if) and the flat one was fake? The fake one came out and Michael's body was taken to Neverland to bury him there? As there have been speculations that he could also have been buried at Neverland since there were two funerals. God that broke my heart to just write that. :(
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the body with the black straps we accept as MJ even though we only have the new readers opinion on it, the second body was at the side, that was the one moved on the coroners van, we dont know who that was either or whether just a surf board.
it seems a very expensive way to move dead people and not very enviromental.
so mike might of exited another way?
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the body with the black straps we accept as MJ even though we only have the new readers opinion on it, the second body was at the side, that was the one moved on the coroners van, we dont know who that was either or whether just a surf board.
it seems a very expensive way to move dead people and not very enviromental.
so mike might of exited another way?
Are there really two bodies? For me, the one thing on the side nex to the body in the front looks like a big Box of equipment?
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there is one behind the airman and then there is one to the right hand side of him, when they land the takes the one to the right and not the one behind which was moving.
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there is one behind the airman and then there is one to the right hand side of him, when they land the takes the one to the right and not the one behind which was moving.
ah okay. thanks
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Does anyone know how they took those air shots?
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This was Mike's way of letting his "fans" know from the VERY BEGINNING that this was NOT TRUE and was all a hoax! He has left the "obvious" every step of the way because he loves us. He really, really does. He knew we would be paying attention. No official confirmation of his death (only from Jermaine). He made sure to show us that what came off the helicopter is not what went on, from DAY ONE. The fake 911 call, no emotion, etc. He let us know from the very beginning, that he is alive, healthy, happy and in total control. :D
We love you more, Mike! :mrgreen:
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This was Mike's way of letting his "fans" know from the VERY BEGINNING that this was NOT TRUE and was all a hoax! He has left the "obvious" every step of the way because he loves us. He really, really does. He knew we would be paying attention. No official confirmation of his death (only from Jermaine). He made sure to show us that what came off the helicopter is not what went on, from DAY ONE. The fake 911 call, no emotion, etc. He let us know from the very beginning, that he is alive, healthy, happy and in total control. :D
We love you more, Mike! :mrgreen:
there was a thread discussing the officail death statement somehwere but forgot where sorry...
But apperently the news said that UCLA wrote an official death statement...its just the Jermaine read it out.
There is no law stating that it HAS to be read from the UCLA sponsor or whatever :(...but apparently UCLA did write the OFFICIAL drath statement...but who knows i need to do some research to make sure its possible that a family member can do a death statement hmm
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there was an official statement CNN read it out i think - there is a new thread on this.
but the vid must have been taken by the news corp trying to get the scoop