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Title: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: DancingTheDream on December 30, 2009, 04:30:35 PM
TMZ just reporting this:

http://www.tmz.com/category/michael-jackson/ (http://www.tmz.com/category/michael-jackson/)

Dr Klein patient collapses and dies  (and no it isnt MJ) on Dec 18 2009

TMZ has learned Dr. Arnold Klein, who treated Michael Jackson for decades, had an office employee who just died ... an employee who had a history of drug abuse, even while working for Dr. Klein.

Bruce Ayers, who worked for three years as Dr. Klein's research assistant and confidant, was found dead on a sidewalk on December 18 in Los Angeles.

Dr. Klein tells TMZ he fired the 44-year-old Ayers in February, after learning Ayers was allegedly stealing drugs and money from Klein's office.

We're told Dr. Klein stored certain drugs at a pharmacy he used to fill prescriptions for patients. When the drugs would expire, there was a protocol for destroying them. But Klein says Ayers would go to the pharmacy and get expired Demerol for his own use -- and the pharmacy gave it to him. Klein says the pharmacy violated protocol.

We're told Dr. Klein knew Ayers was a drug addict when he hired him but at the time Ayers was on the wagon. Klein says it became painfully obvious at the beginning of 2009 that Ayers' drug problem had resurfaced. Several members of Klein's staff told the Dr. they would quit unless he fired Ayers.

And, we're told, after Ayers was fired, Klein's staff realized 100 Percocet pills were missing.

We've learned Ayers, who met Michael Jackson many times while working for Klein, had a history of abusing pain meds.

When Ayers' body was discovered, authorities found hospital records showing that he had been admitted to three different hospitals since August, in each case for pain issues -- and in each case he was discharged with various meds.

The L.A. County Coroner has deferred Ayers' cause of death, pending toxicology tests
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on December 30, 2009, 04:35:56 PM
On TMZ Live today, Harvey said Klein told him that MJ "hated" Ayers...at least I think I heard that right.
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: XspeechlessX on December 30, 2009, 04:38:11 PM
:shock:  :?:  :?
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: DancingTheDream on December 30, 2009, 04:48:46 PM
This has made me go cold.  This is getting shadier and shadier....

"dead men dont tell tales"........
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: Ninanina on December 30, 2009, 05:08:25 PM
But that was not his patient, it was his employee.
Huh - it really sounds shady...
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: liegi on December 30, 2009, 05:12:25 PM
Scary stuff.  Also Evan Chandler committed suicide.
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: DancingTheDream on December 30, 2009, 06:15:18 PM
Quote from: "Ninanina"
But that was not his patient, it was his employee.
Huh - it really sounds shady...

I think he was both... which makes it shadier.  Why would Dr Klein employ a drug addict? wtf... what the hell is going on here?   :shock:
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: Grenat on December 30, 2009, 09:12:10 PM
That's really strange that two people related to MJ and that he could have hated
(What was mentionned on TMZ Live) and of Course Jordie's father are dead now !
But oh well that's surely bad coincidences ^^
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: darkchild on December 30, 2009, 09:17:54 PM
Wow, this is very interesting. The worm is turning.  I agree this situation is extremely shady.  I am gobsmacked again.  Thanks for the great detective work.  The truth will prevail.
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: mjthelegendlives on December 30, 2009, 09:21:21 PM
Quote from: "ILuvUMoreMJ"
On TMZ Live today, Harvey said Klein told him that MJ "hated" Ayers...at least I think I heard that right.

Did he mention why MJ hated that man?

Why is a celebrity gossip site reporting on this man?  because of AK?  and they have filed it under Michael Jackson... :?
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: DancingTheDream on December 30, 2009, 09:23:25 PM
Quote from: "darkchild"
Wow, this is very interesting. The worm is turning.  I agree this situation is extremely shady.  I am gobsmacked again.  Thanks for the great detective work.  The truth will prevail.

I think there is much more to this.. the Coroner has DEFERRED cause of death...  hmmm....  so maybe not as simple as a drugs overdose then... hmmm......  Dr Klein may be in trouble.  I hope so, because if all this is true he is a dirty drug pusher.  

I really do not get what is going on with Klein and Murray!!!!!
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: LucyLocket on December 30, 2009, 09:33:56 PM
The whole patient/employee thing is really strange.
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: simplyme on December 30, 2009, 11:17:47 PM
Quote from: "LucyLocket"
The whole patient/employee thing is really strange.

Where did it say the Mr. Ayer was a patient?  Did I miss something?
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on December 31, 2009, 12:05:10 AM
Quote from: "mjthelegendlives"
Quote from: "ILuvUMoreMJ"
On TMZ Live today, Harvey said Klein told him that MJ "hated" Ayers...at least I think I heard that right.

Did he mention why MJ hated that man?

Why is a celebrity gossip site reporting on this man?  because of AK?  and they have filed it under Michael Jackson... :?

I don't think he really said.  You can hear it at the very end of this clip... http://www.tmz.com/tmzlive?autoplay=tru ... 3788f3231d (http://www.tmz.com/tmzlive?autoplay=true&mediaKey=8a131c88-d8bb-4816-b4aa-a73788f3231d)
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: miss j on December 31, 2009, 12:45:21 AM
i misread the title as "tmz reporting Dr.Klein dies..INVESTIGATION!"

i was shocked by the way.. :oops:
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: Game Player on December 31, 2009, 05:02:28 AM
Having a drug addict work around medication is not going to end well.
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: MJLover1990 on December 31, 2009, 08:06:07 AM
Okay... this is weird and shocking! :o
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on December 31, 2009, 08:11:40 AM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "Ninanina"
But that was not his patient, it was his employee.
Huh - it really sounds shady...

I think he was both... which makes it shadier.  Why would Dr Klein employ a drug addict? wtf... what the hell is going on here?   :shock:
:? yeah you have a point an addiction is for life so he employs an addict on the wagon around temptation wake up arnie :lol:
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: Wildy on December 31, 2009, 11:00:49 AM
Quote from: "miss j"
i misread the title as "tmz reporting Dr.Klein dies..INVESTIGATION!"

i was shocked by the way.. :oops:

Me too !!! I read that Dr Klein died and I was like WTF?!!!!!  :roll:
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on December 31, 2009, 11:15:52 AM
This has nothing to do with Michael why drag his name into this?
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: MJJLives on December 31, 2009, 01:14:07 PM
Quote from: "Game Player"
Having a drug addict work around medication is not going to end well.

I agree.  Like employing a monkey in a banana store.  Too much temptation! ;)

Something strange is definitely going on here with Good Ol' Dr. Klein.
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: xirisjex on December 31, 2009, 02:37:21 PM
This reminds me of the DEA theory that was posted on the old MJHD.
Following that theory Michael would expose all the shady medical practices that are going on in Hollywood. This news would make sense in that theory.
Tmz is making Dr. Klein look shady or at least his practise...coincedence?

Normally they wouldn't post something like this as ''news'' I think since it doesn't directly relate to Michael .. Although this is Tmz lol they will post pretty much anything as news  ;)
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on December 31, 2009, 02:53:22 PM
Quote from: "xirisjex"
This reminds me of the DEA theory that was posted on the old MJHD.
Following that theory Michael would expose all the shady medical practices that are going on in Hollywood. This news would make sense in that theory.
Tmz is making Dr. Klein look shady or at least his practise...coincedence?

Normally they wouldn't post something like this as ''news'' I think since it doesn't directly relate to Michael .. Although this is Tmz lol they will post pretty much anything as news  ;)
My thought exactly, I'm one of who started writing about the DEA theory though I am starting to doubt that Michael would be in any cooperation with a federal goverment, why would they help him? Idk..its seem pretty far-fetched though somethings that have happened after the 25 June would be explainable if this theory was true...
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: mjboogie on December 31, 2009, 03:01:38 PM
HMmmmmmm. It is realllly funny how TMZ can report on patients of Klein. But ummmm.... still don't have MJ added to their RIP list? :o
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: MyMindseye on December 31, 2009, 09:11:20 PM
:o Michael was incapable of Hating anyone so TMZ needs to check thier "sources"
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: SimplyMJ on January 01, 2010, 12:20:29 AM
Thats really weird and strange. why would anyone professional wise hire a drug addict or a recovering drug addict to work with medicine...

and why is tmz reporting it? it really doesn't have to do with MJ...only the fact that klein was his doctor...Something smells fishy around LA...
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: Game Player on January 01, 2010, 09:23:12 AM
Basically they are only reporting this because of 3 things

1.) Arnie Klein had a close relationship with this worker (like mj)
2.) A drug addict? (MJ has been labeled as one)
3.) A drug addict who died. (We know the plot-line)

Are they really hurting for stories? Are they trying to say Arnie loves drug addicts or something? But I guess they want to keep MJ's name out there. :lol:
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on January 01, 2010, 09:47:56 AM
It would be great if this man is charged cause he sounds fishy to me....The Destiny comes for all of us..the same as Chandler and the rest is yet to come (that's what i think).
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: Crescendo on January 04, 2010, 06:31:28 PM
Quote from: "miss j"
i misread the title as "tmz reporting Dr.Klein dies..INVESTIGATION!"

i was shocked by the way.. :oops:

omg i did too. I was like SAY WHAT? :shock:

Why though is it such a big deal? I mean if a man passed away that  is terrible. I'm very sorry forhis family and friends.

But just because he was an employee of Dr. Klein's, I don't think, means much. Klein is a doctor which I'm sure has many acquaintances, friends, enemies, employees and patients. So if someone he knows passes away the news is gonna blow up the story. idk..

I know the news trys to build mountains out of mole hills so I don't think too much of this article in relation to Michael and a hoax.

I could be very wrong though.
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: hesouttamylife on January 04, 2010, 07:15:10 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
TMZ just reporting this:

http://www.tmz.com/category/michael-jackson/ (http://www.tmz.com/category/michael-jackson/)

Dr Klein patient collapses and dies  (and no it isnt MJ) on Dec 18 2009

TMZ has learned Dr. Arnold Klein, who treated Michael Jackson for decades, had an office employee who just died ... an employee who had a history of drug abuse, even while working for Dr. Klein.

Bruce Ayers, who worked for three years as Dr. Klein's research assistant and confidant, was found dead on a sidewalk on December 18 in Los Angeles.

Dr. Klein tells TMZ he fired the 44-year-old Ayers in February, after learning Ayers was allegedly stealing drugs and money from Klein's office.

We're told Dr. Klein stored certain drugs at a pharmacy he used to fill prescriptions for patients. When the drugs would expire, there was a protocol for destroying them. But Klein says Ayers would go to the pharmacy and get expired Demerol for his own use -- and the pharmacy gave it to him. Klein says the pharmacy violated protocol.

We're told Dr. Klein knew Ayers was a drug addict when he hired him but at the time Ayers was on the wagon. Klein says it became painfully obvious at the beginning of 2009 that Ayers' drug problem had resurfaced. Several members of Klein's staff told the Dr. they would quit unless he fired Ayers.

And, we're told, after Ayers was fired, Klein's staff realized 100 Percocet pills were missing.

We've learned Ayers, who met Michael Jackson many times while working for Klein, had a history of abusing pain meds.

When Ayers' body was discovered, authorities found hospital records showing that he had been admitted to three different hospitals since August, in each case for pain issues -- and in each case he was discharged with various meds.

The L.A. County Coroner has deferred Ayers' cause of death, pending toxicology tests


He was probably assassinated after being fired so he wouldn't blow the whistle on what Ole Boy Klein was really prescribing to Michael.
Title: Re: TMZ reporting patient of Dr Klein dies.. INVESTIGATION!
Post by: i_need YoU on January 05, 2010, 12:53:00 AM
Quote from: "MyMindseye"
:o Michael was incapable of Hating anyone so TMZ needs to check thier "sources"
phew thank god you said that heehee because i didnt want to haha...But yeah Michael didnt hate ANYONE he simply disliked them...hate is a horrible thing...i dont even hate anyone...not even my step father!!! So i think TMZ can't or shouldn't express someone elses feelings towards another person :D
peace to you all though
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