Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: michaelslady on September 07, 2014, 10:39:43 PM
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OMG!!!! Was he actually at his own bday celebration on Aug 29, 2014 in Gary, Indiana? Lol. Check out the "man in black" that goes into the house. Is that not MJs profile, height, long legs, walk, etc. Look at the way he steps up onto the porch. I believe that's him in disguise with a wig, brown makeup and prosthetic nose maybe? Just look at him from the side, from behind. He stands out. He gives off a vibe.
Could it be that our MJ just can't stay away? Is he truly hiding in plain sight? :th_bravo:
Somebody that was at the celebration shared this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImCrxaHhLrc&feature=share
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does seem interesting to me that jacksons must own or have some influence over the neighboring houses as there are posters in the windows and the houses look somewhat ummm uniform in fencing and such.
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@suspicious minds, wow thanks for pointing that out. I didn't notice. the more eyes the better :icon_cool:
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and there was also video of when mike went back there in 2001 i think and the place just looked like they have taken off and left stuff behind. or perhaps they didn't even have possession of it at the time.
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Have to admit to a bit of a 'Coroner's Van' moment there!! Damn, thought I was over that! LOL!
(Interesting comments by the way on the original vid this was taken from, discussing this mystery person.)
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It Looks very interesting...
I allways wonder why this tree right beside the entrace dosn't grow since the Jacksons lived there.....50 years and it Looks the same.
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I allways had my doubts with this stories....
Katherine wrote a book in the 80th and say not one good word about Gary und know they visit this house every year ?
Can't it be an film set at Warner Brothers...because nearly nothing changes in this 50 years....a wooden house ?
Katherine told that Michael sand on the washing Maschine before he could speak or walk.....hmmmm....he is Born 1958 , so that must be 1960 or earlier...
Witch poor american familiy with 9 children, living in that small house has a washing Maschine ? She mentionet a freezer as well and a VW bus....
I can be absolut wrong, but i was Born in 1963 in Germany...only my mother an i and we got our first washing Maschine when i was 10 years old.
There is very much wrong in all this stories.
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How do we know this is from 2014?
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Thanks for sharing the video michaelslady
It seems an happy occasion, smile, laughter...as the funeral.... :icon_razz:
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Nevermind, I see the kids all grown up. Interesting video hahaahahahaha, seems to be him. I don't get why people are not saying anything about that guy entering the house, just weird. Why would he take such a big risk though? Seems unreal but who knows.
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does seem interesting to me that jacksons must own or have some influence over the neighboring houses as there are posters in the windows and the houses look somewhat ummm uniform in fencing and such.
I was there on August 30th. Unfortunately, the Jackson family had just left right before I got there. But, someone told me that the family bought the house next door sometime after 2009 and fixed it up. They also put the same type of fence around it. I think it's kind of funny to have all of those posters hanging on the windows, though. haha. Supposedly, they also bought two additional houses on the street that they plan to fix up as well.
For anyone unfamiliar with this neighborhood...it's pretty depressed. I always thought that I live in a pretty bad neighborhood, but this is much worse. Half of the homes on the street were boarded up. So, I'm glad that they bought some of the homes. I'm hoping they give it to a family that would need a nice home to live in. It's right next to a school, too.
I noticed that security were still hanging around the house even though the family wasn't there. I thought maybe to keep the house secure since people were still walking around. I didn't even think to look for MJ in disguise!! I mean he could have been walking around people watching the entire time and I didn't even know. I guess I was just in awe that I was standing near MJs birthplace.
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is it not a possibility that there is a image trickery involved? i mean technology today, you can edit and insert anything into a video and appear real.
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@Souza, ikr? Hard to know what to believe anymore. I was wondering why he would want to be out and about in that way. But could it be that he knew nobody would believe he would be in public that way. Maybe he figured nobody would think to look for him there. A lot of his fans and/or believers were too distracted by the big celebration in Vegas and the bday celebration with Siedah Garrett in Rome to pay attention to little ole Gary, Indiana.
The crime there is horrible. Its such a desolate low economic area. Its actually only a few hours from me. I may try to make my way there next Aug lol
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It's possible it is him, but it also could be someone made to look like it could be Michael - that illusion thing again. Maybe to get some controversy going?
Love you Michael!
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im wondering if the "illusion" idea is all an illusion. with the Jackson family you really never know. I did take Latoyas advice and watched the Illusionist movie. :screaming-7365: I still don't know which part of the movie that she wants us to take notice of. Or is her story a part of the illusion/distraction?
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I can't believe I've been 'forced' to rewatch (sound off) the whole of the original vid RK posted on the other thread that I dislike so much:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXnhF5tZtFI&feature=player_detailpage[/youtube] Sorry, I need to go to work, so can't play around with it now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXnhF5tZtFI
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,24630.0.html
Mystery man in black features in the background all the way through, not just in the entering the house part, he's with the woman all in white carrying a blue bag and starts off like a spectator on the other side of the black railings, then there's a big group of people apparently letting him and her in through the gate, the big guy in a red top has the air of a bodyguard, then they appear to be posing for photos for the poor souls on the other side of the fence .... just watch it! I tell you what's going on in the background is far more interesting than some fan getting her T-shirt signed! :icon_lol:
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(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee491/showemhowfunky/NahNahNah_zpsdf5ea39b.jpg)
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Some of the comments say it's Brandon Howard - others say he was somewhere else that day so it can't be him.
Could they just be quiet, undemanding spectators who were 'rewarded' with a look inside the house?? IDK
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Does anyone know if Mother K was with them? I haven't seen any pics of her there which is unusual.
Interesting seeing the pictures of Michael with his Mother in the windows of the house next door.
What would really kick ass is if she was there disguised as the lady in white. (I know... impossible right?)
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RK, I'm having trouble posting pics/vids today, but there's a link to some pics on that YouTube page, and several of them appear to show Katherine (in blue!) at the side of the house with Blanket and others. Here's the link to the pics, scroll down to near the bottom: http://imgur.com/a/6H0X3
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Okay. Thanks Curls. I see her now.
I did so enjoy that little bubble of hoax madness for a minute.
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Some of the comments say it's Brandon Howard - others say he was somewhere else that day so it can't be him.
Could they just be quiet, undemanding spectators who were 'rewarded' with a look inside the house?? IDK
Around 14.01 keep watching Rebie comes up and talks to them and then the person filming says there goes Rebie in the front door. so they followed Rebie inside. sorry for the spelling :O((
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Okay. Thanks Curls. I see her now.
I did so enjoy that little bubble of hoax madness for a minute.
Well ... we don't know the timing of these pics and vid. Maybe she had time to get changed and put on a new head once she was inside the house before making her appearance by the railings! I know, madness indeed, but I admit I thought the same as you when I saw them together like that!
@18wheels, I didn't realise that was Rebbie (haven't listened to the sound all the way through!) - thanks.
@Souza, you asked why would he take such a risk. I say what risk? Why not? He's still dead! Someone once said when you do the impossible, you become safe in its absurdity. Not that I'm really serious about this mystery figure being MJ, but unless someone comes up with who it actually is, there is no reason why it couldn't be. IMO
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Its not Brandon Howard. He has a lighter complexion and softer features. Just wanted to point out that its been very very hot in the surrounding areas near Gary. I mean HOTTTTTT. The heat index has been like 107 outside. Unless someone had something to hide, who in their right mind would wear all this long black during a time like that. Wonder what he's hiding. The only thing visible are his face and hands. I love the way he seems to purposely hiding his fingernails. To me he seems to be very leery.
Wanted to mention something about Paris too. Did anyone else notice how uncomfortable she seemed? Like something is disturbing her or heavily weighing on her mind? Its like she's thinking, "I'm so tired of pretending and going along with this hoax". Or maybe she was afraid that someone was gonna ask her about the hoax. Poor kid. You know how bold some people can be. Someone even asked Jermaine about it on Twitter. Just watch her reaction to the people on the vid that RK posted. I wonder what TJ was saying to her when he grabbed her by the arm.
Kinda nice to have something new to discuss. Oh when will it end? Or do we really want it to? Its a step away from all the horrible news I keep hearing on tv everyday
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@michaelslady Kind of odd that you mentioned Paris looking 'like she had something on her mind'.
I just saw online that there are rumors that Paris is pregnant.
And I agree with you about that person wearing what he is. I know the pic isn't real clear but it looks like he is wearing like a nylon over his face.
I watched the full video and the woman and that person stood behind the gate for a long time before they were let in. So I'm guessing that they are fans (or decoys!) but again just one more oddity in all of this.
And too the pics in the window in the other house and Katherine and Blanket in the backyard, just odd.
But then again has there been anything not odd about the past 5 years?
Love you Michael!
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@iamher4mj, I gotta check out that rumor on Paris. Geez hope its not true. media will throw her under the bus like they have MJ. I'm generally very, very good at reading body language with people and im telling you, something is bothering that child. its not the usual bubbliness that we have seen with her in the past. I just love how Blanket frowns at people in absolute disgust. I notice he never seems to say anything. maybe its because they don't want him to slip up like his uncle Jermaine does constantly :icon_razz:
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This video is classic hoax video, but idk if it is official MJ under another name or just an expert at making frustrating video! First, it was frustrating to read the text, so I didn't, the first time through. Then I wanted to see what had disturbed a couple of you guys, and I thought maybe that was it...
Then, I noticed lots of time idling on peoples' backs turned to us, but NOT like real amateur "home movies", only like it is supposed to be taken as such. Then, when I tried to discover WHAT was being filmed specifically (just general family/crowd event video or certain family members, or WHAT?)I noticed myself being thwarted :Pulling_hair: by the photographer, via tilted angling, shaking the camera, and people jumping in front of what WAS being filmed. When I did realize what was being filmed, just as the filmer zoomed in, the camera moved off! :screaming-7365: So...watching again. There was a lot of time spent on the tall girl who managed to get every one's signatures, but, it appeared to be KEEPING us from something further away, being filmed. WHAT is being filmed? The :icon_e_surprised: man in black, standing on the driveway(to the right of the home) alongside a woman in white who is holding something blue, @311, 415, 451, 506-530-614 to 641 when he goes in the house. I think the audience was meant to think it is film of MJ's Bday celebration at his childhood home, but it really is a contrived hoax video along the lines of "Where's Waldo" :thjajaja121:. Yeah, we spotted him. But,
I don't think it is MJ at all---and neither does ANYONE else who is there :LolLolLolLol:, because he is standing ALL alone way too long on a mostly empty driveway space, before going into the house :icon_exclaim: You know, MJ spent alot of time reinforcing that his characteristic silhouette would be instantly recognizable, I think , just for this purpose---to fool everyone!! So, I think everyone at the "show" had already met the "Poser" and were directed to ignore him, and distract us (the viewers) with all kinds of chitchat :icon_albino: party activity. Verrry :bowdown: clever, but, NOT Waldo. :icon_albino: And where's the food? I didn't see one chicken wing or a plate of cake. :Crash: However... :suspect:
The entire thing begs a question. For all my birthdays, I NEVER once went back to my first childhood home (when no one I know still lives there, even! :icon_eek:) to celebrate. Now, I'm not famous, but, I never heard of anyone else doing that either; maybe putting up a tombstone/memorial in a famous person's home town cemetery, sorta nicely packaging the "coming full circle", like Rosa Parks...but, I just wonder WHY, when MJ is not DEAD. :icon_e_confused: Logistically, it would be way easier to stage something smaller there than, say, Neverland, or even Hayvenhurst.
But, WHY. :computer-losy-smiley: :over-react-smiley:
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I still wonder what it all means though. And I agree with you. I always thought it was weird to celebrate his bday in Gary. He spent more of his life at Hayvenhurst and Neverland. In all honesty, he only spent what, 9 years in Gary?
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It's common for the birthplace of a famous person to be the focus, no matter where else they may have lived.
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Hmm, well Gary would be too tiny for a 'Ghost' to spend time at, but Hayvenhurst & Neverland great roomy vacant places! Thus Forest Lawn & Gary seem more logical for the fans to feel connected and to grieve.
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Maybe Michael's birthday isn't the one being celebrated.
There has been speculation of a twin and does everyone remember the pic of ECas that was included on the Memorial? Why was he ever included to begin with? I tried finding a pic of it but all I can find is the front view of it, not the backside.
Love you Michael!
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Guys, did any of you notice the necklace that Paris was wearing. There is something familiar about that necklace.(Hint: take a look at the charm that is on the necklace) we have seen that charm before. I will do some research and try and find it for you.
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It reminds me of the necklace from the movie The Illusionist if im not mistaken. Im still trying to figure out what Latoya wanted us to see in the movie. There are many angles in that film. Love it :LolLolLolLol:
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Guys, did any of you notice the necklace that Paris was wearing. There is something familiar about that necklace.(Hint: take a look at the charm that is on the necklace) we have seen that charm before. I will do some research and try and find it for you.
It reminds me of the necklace from the movie The Illusionist if im not mistaken. Im still trying to figure out what Latoya wanted us to see in the movie. There are many angles in that film. Love it :LolLolLolLol:
heh.. the turtle charm necklace
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SEHF, was something posted here awhile ago regard that Turtle charm. There was also a picture. And I know no one want to bring this up but the post was one Front's post regarding a Turtle Charm on a picture of a pouch with a turtle imprint. There a couple of post and discussion about this regarding Turtle Island that is located in the Fiji Islands. And you the interesting this is that at that location the movie "Blue Lagoon " was filmed. You can guess who starred in that movie.
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I'm getting a little off topic here, but I did some looking online because my interest was piqued.
I never watched the movie because LaToya said it was about a faked death, that's all I needed to hear. :LolLolLolLol:
Here is something I found online:
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AwrBT8WbxihUPcAAc8FXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzMnBlM2RhBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNARjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1NNRTM5OF8x?qid=20070127194308AA97iuK
Question:
Can someone explain the ILLUSIONIST? MOVIE?
so the girl faked her death with the help of Eishsnhammer (however u spell it)....but how did the prince think himself that he 'killed' the girl....ok i just don't really get it, i do, but not really..
SOME ONE explain
this movie is somewhat mind boggling!
Answer:
The prince always denied that he did anything.
The fact is that he was drugged and the rest of what happened was staged to make him look like he did something he didn't.
It wasn't until the end of the story that the police detective figures out what happened, how they drugged the prince and made it look like he girl was stabbed using the royal sword, and how they covered it all up by making sure the magician found the body and his accomplice declared the girl dead before anyone else had a chance to see she was merely unconscious, she was also drugged.
The rest is all a matter of getting the detective to point the finger at the prince and get him in trouble with his father. The rest was academic. Either the father would kill the prince or the detective would be killed by the prince and the father would kill the prince but the prince would die and the girl would be free to do as she pleased and that is what the magician was after, her freedom.
http://www.chacha.com/question/how-does-the-illusionist-end
Question:
How does the Illusionist end
Answer:
Eisenheim (Edward Norton) faked Sophie's death and framed the Crown Prince.
Crown Prince = Murray
Eisenheim = Michael's best friends (?)
Sophie = Michael
The movie is about giving freedom to the girl - if Michael is Sophie in this then it was done to give him his freedom. But freedom from what?
Love you Michael!
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Wish people who want to use their phones to shoot films to at least learn how to film. If I never had motion sickness I would now.
Had watched that movie before but because of that horrible filming I never finished watching that and always wondered who the uploader was referring to. LOL.
But not sure what to think, it does seem that everybody in that garden keeps an eye on the guy in black. Like they were indeed standing there to distract all the onlookers. To see if he went inside.
At 3.28 that does look like MJ !!! LOL wouldn't that be ironic? The filmer being so close to MJ and filming him without knowing?!
And one more thing. If you look at his shoes they seem so wrong for a young black guy. Looking at him you would think he'd be wearing sneakers.