Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: TS_comments on May 05, 2014, 07:55:24 AM
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BAM!!!!!
The end comes SUDDENLY!
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BAM!!!!!
Finally ... the time that we have all been waiting for!
:multiplespotting: :th_bravo: :woohoo2: :moonwalk_: :icon_cool: :) :icon_geek: :icon_mrgreen: :penguin: :TongueOutSmiley:
:abouttime: :LolLolLolLol:
To everyone who is new to the hoax forum—welcome! And you have a lot of reading to do, if you want to get a good understanding of the reasons for the hoax, etc.
To everyone who has been on the forum previously, but didn’t stay here until the BAM—welcome back! And you may also want to do some reading, and catch up on things that you missed while you were away.
To everyone who stayed here, and never left—congratulations! You decided to: “keep the faith NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS!!!!!!!!!!!” {http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,16148.0.html (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,16148.0.html)}
TS Is a Fake Informer!
For those who thought that TS is a fake informer, because there was no BAM by then end of 2012—I will quote from sweetsunsetwithMJ:
“HOAX = FAKE (not real)
TS = INSIDER (person who is giving us first hand info to make us understand this hoax, maybe from MJ’s inner circle??)
SO.....
TS = FAKE INFORMER (informer of the fake)
It took me a time to understand it but I’ve finally understood it.”
{http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23784.msg439987.html#msg439987 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23784.msg439987.html#msg439987)}
TIAI Redirects for 10-27-13, & 5-5-14
{http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/ (http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/)}
Did anyone notice that the Dow Jones hit a new all-time high, for the first time in several years, on 3-5-13 {http://www.cnbc.com/id/100507978 (http://www.cnbc.com/id/100507978)}? And this was about three years after TS connected the market with the hoax, and specifically with the March 5 date: “God is fully capable of controlling world events. And in this case, the 666 low came on 3-6, which was only one day after the March 5 press conference in London. March 6 was a Friday, so the 7th and 8th were the weekend; but after the low on Friday, Monday March 9 was the start of the fastest six-month rally in US history.” {http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,7064.0.html (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,7064.0.html)}
Furthermore, believe it or not—as Adi noticed—the total days since June 25, 2009, is exactly 1776 (inclusive reckoning, as usual); this is the exact number that I used as the title and subtitle (see subsection 4-21), clear back in 2010, for that same Update #4.
{http://www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html?m1=6&d1=25&y1=2009&m2=5&d2=5&y2=2014&ti=on (http://www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html?m1=6&d1=25&y1=2009&m2=5&d2=5&y2=2014&ti=on)}
And did anyone notice when the S&P 500 closed at 1776—for the first time ever {http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=^gspc (http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=^gspc)}?? How’s that for some fancy insider trading, LOL!?! Again, 1776 is the number of the days since 6-25-09, and 1776 is also the exact number in the title/subtitle of that Update #4 (777 + 999 = 1776). TS redirected to the S&P specifically on 10-27-13, which was more than half of a year in advance!
While some might be trying to calculate the odds, that all of this is just coincidence: others might begin to realize The Source, of the information that I’ve posted over the years.
{http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,21995.msg384706.html#msg384706 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,21995.msg384706.html#msg384706); http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,11061.msg190844.html#msg190844 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,11061.msg190844.html#msg190844)}
Level #7, Sign #7, Update #7
Level #7 was already finished, in 2012. For those who are interested in The Signs: the final one, Sign #7, will be the redirect for Saturday, May 10. And for those who have read the previous Updates: the final one, Update #7, will be the redirect for Monday, May 12. Update #7 will explain who I am, as well as The Source. For now, though, I will say that I’m not Front, and I’m not MJ (as I’ve said before); but Front is the real MJ
BAM!!!!!
Let’s do it one more time ...
BAM!!!!!
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Whoooo Hoooo! THIS IS IT!!!!!
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Front is not MJ, sorry.
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TS is an informer of the fake ... so what does that make this post?? Just saying.
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Interesting development after being quiet for so long.
I will continue to keep faith with this for as long as it takes and see how it unfolds.
:compute: :icon_e_smile: God bless you all.
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I can't believe this. Deleted Fronts's twitter too. The idiot is getting enough attention already.
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@Curls...that is how I interpreted that as well.
Well do I remember the ugliness of that twitter war.
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What does this have to do with MJ and/or the hoax? Looks like nothing and/or nothing. Anyone want to offer a reason why this thread should stay open?
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What does this have to do with MJ and/or the hoax? Looks like nothing and/or nothing. Anyone want to offer a reason why this thread should stay open?
Honestly I don't have one.
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Wow. 5/5/1+4 5/5/5 Hope it's true, but will keep the faith in any case! Can it be???? :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg:
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Also, Level 7 was not finished in 2012. As with many things, TS/_comments, just because you say it, doesn't make it so, and you cannot rewrite history to suit your needs; some of us have better memories than that.
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I would like to wait and watch for the next 7 days. But in saying that, I am assuming that May 12th for the update is actually May 12th of this year.
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So today is the Bam ? All of the sudden ? I'm sorry, I don't buy this, after all these years of hopelessly waiting.
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Well someone is playing us for fools - question is ... which 'someone' is it? Keeping my options open right now. Stay vigilant guys. I'm pretty confident all is not as it seems in many directions. Trust your own instincts, don't be swayed by anyone else.
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False. Come on TS.
You got bored after having fun with this community, so you left, but felt that you wanted to have fun again, so you came back with all the nonsense?
Giving dates means nothing. You will obviously not show up on the date that you say you will, so why say stuff? Anyways dude, at this point, just shut up and leave.
Obviously you have no life whatsoever, which is why you're here wasting everyone else's time.
Won't believe MJ is back until I see with my eyes and see it on a major news media site, which will obviously not happen.
It's funny how a simple "BAM" thing that MJ said for his rehearsal has been twisted and turned and interpreted in a completely different manner. "BAM" is used often and is a common word to express something, it doesn't mean that he was referring to his so-called "return."
"BAM" ain't happening people. Nothing to see here, move on.
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Oh BAM is happening [member=1683]MJ_TheKingOfPop[/member] I would just be very surprised if that happened today.
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Oh BAM is happening [member=1683]MJ_TheKingOfPop[/member] I would just be very surprised if that happened today.
Isn't that the whole point of the supposed "BAM", as pointed out by a few people?
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Yes, BAM will be a surprise, I just said that I would be surprised if it would be today as in I do not expect anything today.
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Stock market closed too: 1,884.66 Up 3.52 (0.19%) 4:10 PM EDT.
No 1776.
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Well since TS/_comments last redirected to anything interesting (stock market watch) I have since joined the stock market. Yay me. I'm like a real adult now finally. Thanks MJ's hoax for making me grow up.
TS/_comments may be a lot of things but I do not harbor any ill will toward he. He has always been positive and civil, no matter how nasty the peanut gallery gets, so let's all do our personal best to play nice and refrain from any attacks.
Although I am curious... @TS/_commets: since you seem to think a certain poser is so "real", why didn't you post your Cinco de Mayo post on that forum?
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The truth did not expect today Bam! . TS_comments is Bam! return. I hope the last sign # 7 and the explanation of the hoax. So Front is the real MJ? :suspect:
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i don't know if i'm allowed to say this here, but i am still so dissapointed in Front for lacking the L.O.V.E he pretend to own all this times? the way he bashed Souza, i have no words for that!. HE'd used Souzas place/forum for several years, and did feel the need to openly (twitter) attack Souza after he felt he was not treated right!? I couldn't believe my eyes when i saw that! So if he is MJ ......Where is the L.O.V.E?, or is it only for people who are nice and lovely and say sweet things to him. What happened to the other cheek.
i am very curious what TS-comments has to tell us, for sign 7 update 7 etc......
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I'm sorry Souza, but why does this quote keep running through my head?!
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks" - from Shakespeare's Hamlet
(BTW, TS_comments didn't say the S&P would close yesterday at 1776 - he asked if anyone noticed when it did.)
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... I am assuming that May 12th for the update is actually May 12th of this year.
Well he did also say 'Monday' so if it's not this year, the next one is in 2025!
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Also, Level 7 was not finished in 2012. As with many things, TS/_comments, just because you say it, doesn't make it so, and you cannot rewrite history to suit your needs; some of us have better memories than that.
the same came to my mind. i don't remember 7 being done. i don't come here everyday but i do remember people asking about what happened to it. anyway welcome back TS, if nothing else u helped to keep things lively
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I can't believe this. Deleted Fronts's twitter too. The idiot is getting enough attention already.
But Front's twitter isn't deleted
@curls @RK
"TS is a fake informer" would mean "TS is a hoax informer", where hoax = fake. Atleast that's what I understood.
Level 7 was never completed, but only gave room to more questions and confusion.
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I can't believe this. Deleted Fronts's twitter too. The idiot is getting enough attention already.
But Front's twitter isn't deleted
I deleted the link TO his Twitter, just like I am going to do with your link TO his Twitter.
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BAM!!!!!
The end comes SUDDENLY!
{http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/religion/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=67 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/religion/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=67)}
BAM!!!!!
Finally ... the time that we have all been waiting for!
:multiplespotting: :th_bravo: :woohoo2: :moonwalk_: :icon_cool: :) :icon_geek: :icon_mrgreen: :penguin: :TongueOutSmiley:
:abouttime: :LolLolLolLol:
To everyone who is new to the hoax forum—welcome! And you have a lot of reading to do, if you want to get a good understanding of the reasons for the hoax, etc.
To everyone who has been on the forum previously, but didn’t stay here until the BAM—welcome back! And you may also want to do some reading, and catch up on things that you missed while you were away.
To everyone who stayed here, and never left—congratulations! You decided to: “keep the faith NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS!!!!!!!!!!!” {http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,16148.0.html (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,16148.0.html)}
TS Is a Fake Informer!
For those who thought that TS is a fake informer, because there was no BAM by then end of 2012—I will quote from sweetsunsetwithMJ:
“HOAX = FAKE (not real)
TS = INSIDER (person who is giving us first hand info to make us understand this hoax, maybe from MJ’s inner circle??)
SO.....
TS = FAKE INFORMER (informer of the fake)
It took me a time to understand it but I’ve finally understood it.”
{http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23784.msg439987.html#msg439987 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23784.msg439987.html#msg439987)}
TIAI Redirects for 10-27-13, & 5-5-14
{http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/ (http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/)}
Did anyone notice that the Dow Jones hit a new all-time high, for the first time in several years, on 3-5-13 {http://www.cnbc.com/id/100507978 (http://www.cnbc.com/id/100507978)}? And this was about three years after TS connected the market with the hoax, and specifically with the March 5 date: “God is fully capable of controlling world events. And in this case, the 666 low came on 3-6, which was only one day after the March 5 press conference in London. March 6 was a Friday, so the 7th and 8th were the weekend; but after the low on Friday, Monday March 9 was the start of the fastest six-month rally in US history.” {http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,7064.0.html (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,7064.0.html)}
Furthermore, believe it or not—as Adi noticed—the total days since June 25, 2009, is exactly 1776 (inclusive reckoning, as usual); this is the exact number that I used as the title and subtitle (see subsection 4-21), clear back in 2010, for that same Update #4.
{http://www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html?m1=6&d1=25&y1=2009&m2=5&d2=5&y2=2014&ti=on (http://www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html?m1=6&d1=25&y1=2009&m2=5&d2=5&y2=2014&ti=on)}
And did anyone notice when the S&P 500 closed at 1776—for the first time ever {http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=^gspc (http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=^gspc)}?? How’s that for some fancy insider trading, LOL!?! Again, 1776 is the number of the days since 6-25-09, and 1776 is also the exact number in the title/subtitle of that Update #4 (777 + 999 = 1776). TS redirected to the S&P specifically on 10-27-13, which was more than half of a year in advance!
While some might be trying to calculate the odds, that all of this is just coincidence: others might begin to realize The Source, of the information that I’ve posted over the years.
{http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,21995.msg384706.html#msg384706 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,21995.msg384706.html#msg384706); http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,11061.msg190844.html#msg190844 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,11061.msg190844.html#msg190844)}
Level #7, Sign #7, Update #7
Level #7 was already finished, in 2012. For those who are interested in The Signs: the final one, Sign #7, will be the redirect for Saturday, May 10. And for those who have read the previous Updates: the final one, Update #7, will be the redirect for Monday, May 12. Update #7 will explain who I am, as well as The Source. For now, though, I will say that I’m not Front, and I’m not MJ (as I’ve said before); but Front is the real MJ
BAM!!!!!
Let’s do it one more time ...
BAM!!!!!
from some posts as u can c we don't remember level #7 being completed in 2012....refresh our minds, what did u say?
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I can't believe this. Deleted Fronts's twitter too. The idiot is getting enough attention already.
But Front's twitter isn't deleted
I deleted the link TO his Twitter, just like I am going to do with your link TO his Twitter.
aah. cool. i'll do it myself.
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from some posts as u can c we don't remember level #7 being completed in 2012....refresh our minds, what did u say?
Not wishing to speak for TS you understand, but after he presented all his DWD 'evidence', on 30th Nov 2012, he did post the TII pic with all the puzzle pieces in place, here:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,21319.msg430582.html#msg430582
I guess that means he considered Level 7 finished, even if some of us don't remember it that way!
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I'm sorry Souza, but why does this quote keep running through my head?!
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks" - from Shakespeare's Hamlet
(BTW, TS_comments didn't say the S&P would close yesterday at 1776 - he asked if anyone noticed when it did.)
It is really what he meant and it didn't happen. I am not protesting too much, I am disappointed about some stuff and and mostly this post. No bam, no 1776 closing and maybe people will also finally see that Front is not MJ either. Although I already saw people see how they could band this bam post into something that fits their desperate believe that it is all still real and Front MJ. I hop TS will at least come back and admit he meant bam on the 5th and 1776 closing at the market on the 5th. It has been fun, it has been challenging but this is not something I stand for.
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It looks to me like the S&P 500 reached 1776 sometime round November/December 2013:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=^GSPC+Basic+Chart
(Sorry, I can't get the chart to paste properly here.)
Edit ... and the link doesn't work properly either! Select 'Basic Chart' from the options on the left of the Yahoo finance page that TS linked to, to see what I'm referring to.
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There was a redirect to the stock market page when it closed at 1776, I thought it was October-ish. It was on a Friday and therefore it stayed posted all weekend, if I remember correctly. Curls, you and I talked about it. That's what I thought he was referring to.
I also think he meant BAM he's back, meaning TS/_comments is back. Meaning TS/_comments has returned.
But as usual, slippery. So who the hell knows.
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Yes bec, I remember our discussions well, but I don't remember it being 1776 then. Going to do a bit more digging ...
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From a quick glance the closest I found.
Dec 13, 2013 1,777.98 1,780.92 1,772.45 1,775.32 3,061,070,000 1,775.32
Dec 12, 2013 1,781.71 1,782.99 1,772.28 1,775.50 3,306,640,000 1,775.50
It's not important anyway..
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(http://s29.postimg.org/3wbyg9svb/Screen_Hunter_72_May_08_11_54.jpg)
@curls here it is...
isn't 1776 an approximate figure, how is that a perfect numerology?
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How did you find precise days SEHF? I can't see how to do that. (btw, glad to see you didn't remain 'a dot' for long!)
I did find this thread however:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,24138.0.html
... with this post and screenshot showing 1771 on 30th October:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,24138.msg448075.html#msg448075
So, yes bec, your memory is better than mine! It would've hit 1776 closer to end of Oct than that chart I was looking at yesterday would imply. (Thanks Thriller, I see you've just posted it)
I think Souza is wrong to say TS meant it was going to close at 1776 on 5th May - I'm pretty sure now he meant, in that paragraph, that he'd redirected to the Yahoo finance page on 27th October and pretty soon after that (on a date I'm sure we can determine, if it wasn't actually 27/10) it hit 1776 which should (if we'd been paying attention) have led us to count on 1776 days from 'death date' ... 5th May 2014, the date he'd already planned (6 months+ ahead) for his next appearance on the forum! Tenuous? You bet! Slippery? Of course!
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One more thing, hasn't it been said constantly 'follow the money' ... what if that was someone wanting us to 'follow the markets' (in which case, gold star to bec!). That 'someone' doesn't have to be MJ, he's a handy hook for anyone to hang their own agenda on.
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One more thing, hasn't it been said constantly 'follow the money' ... what if that was someone wanting us to 'follow the markets' (in which case, gold star to bec!). That 'someone' doesn't have to be MJ, he's a handy hook for anyone to hang their own agenda on.
Did you mean to say that this whole stock market thing might have nothing to do with the hoax or Michael? Because I've been wondering where this financial thing is heading to?
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How did you find precise days SEHF? I can't see how to do that. (btw, glad to see you didn't remain 'a dot' for long!)
Historical prices for - S&P 500 (^GSPC) -SNP
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=%5EGSPC&a=08&b=9&c=1999&d=04&e=5&f=2015&g=d
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Are we actually losing our heads studying stock market's number to try find a Bam's day includind number 7, just because some random anonymous person showed up with a big yellow bam on his post, maybe just because he hasn't much more interesting things to do in his life ?
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He meant 5/5. He also meant MJ's BAM on 5/5. Maybe he will be back one more time to confirm this and stop this stuff because we are looking into the wrong things now. Or maybe GodhaschosenMJ can confirm. Because I am sick of being blamed for being a TS or Front hater while people try to make something out of a post that was simply a wrong prediction.
For the record #1: I like TS, I think he is a nice guy and I do not believe he is harmful, I spoke a lot to him before he went radio silent, I do not think he is MJ, I do not think he is related to MJ and I do not think he has it all right. I do think he has had some very interesting things and I think he has kept the forum alive longer than it normaly would have been because people are simply sick of waiting after almost 5 years. But I do not want people to leave 5 years of investigation for a troll that is wetting panties on a 'humble and friendly forum that trashes someone named S' (who might that be??) because this S is a heartless bitch and lynches TS and bashes Front (VERY humble and friendly...), simply because TS didn't read the forum for a year and a half. So I do not BASH or KICK OUT TS, I simply say he has been wrong on this. If anyone wants to fit this so they can still think Front is real or TS is 'slippery' then fine, but I do not want anyone to say afterwards that I knew and didn't tell anyone.
For the record #2: I still believe with all my heart that Front is a big fat nasty TROLL and everyone having wet panties over Front will have red cheeks of shame one day and I have the patience of an angel so go ahead and trash me there, but do not be nice in my face here because I am not an idiot. Like MJ said: THE TRUTH ALWAYS PREVAILS and even if I have to wait another 5 years, it will be worth it.
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Are we actually losing our heads studying stock market's number to try find a Bam's day includind number 7, just because some random anonymous person showed up with a big yellow bam on his post, maybe just because he hasn't much more interesting things to do in his life ?
I'm not losing my head and certainly not trying to find a Bamsday - just trying to make some sense of TS_comments' post.
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How did you find precise days SEHF? I can't see how to do that. (btw, glad to see you didn't remain 'a dot' for long!)
Historical prices for - S&P 500 (^GSPC) -SNP
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=%5EGSPC&a=08&b=9&c=1999&d=04&e=5&f=2015&g=d
Ah, thanks SEHF. I'll have a closer look later.
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Souza, we'll have to agree to disagree on that then. Like you though, I hope TS comes back to explain in a way that's acceptable to all!
I saw that 'heartless bitch' comment on the other forum, and the 'welcome TS, to this humble beautiful loving forum' one from the same poster that followed! Unbelievable in it's hypocrisy. If I was a member there I wouldn't have let that go without a comment.
At the end of the day you can't force people to believe anything; they believe Front is MJ as fiercely as you believe he isn't. Same as 'deaders' believe MJ is dead as fiercely as we believe he's alive. It's that simple. It is disappointing that there's this big split now - so many of those members were valuable and appreciated here.
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Another year,another deception,what the hell :animal0017: :icon_rolleyes: ......we've all been played .....again lol :icon_lol: !!!
I have the feeling that this is a bad "joke"....again, which only Corey Feldman is able to do lol :icon_rolleyes: :icon_geek: !!!
(http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/ln/20140206/070214_corey_feldman_then_and_now/corey-feldman-los-angeles-premiere-of-ganzfeld_4055782.jpg)
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from some posts as u can c we don't remember level #7 being completed in 2012....refresh our minds, what did u say?
Not wishing to speak for TS you understand, but after he presented all his DWD 'evidence', on 30th Nov 2012, he did post the TII pic with all the puzzle pieces in place, here:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,21319.msg430582.html#msg430582
I guess that means he considered Level 7 finished, even if some of us don't remember it that way!
thanks for the post. i'll read it when time permits
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Another year,another deception,what the hell :animal0017: :icon_rolleyes: ......we've all been played .....again lol :icon_lol: !!!
I have the feeling that this is a bad "joke"....again, which only Corey Feldman is able to do lol :icon_rolleyes: :icon_geek: !!!
TS is not Corey Feldman either....
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Meh. I lost my head a long time ago.
If Front turned out to be MJ after all, well, just ponder that for a second... ok, and? If MJ turns out to be alive after all, how are the deaders going to feel? There are parallels here. But it does appear that TS/_comments is behind on current events in hoaxland.
I've stopped presuming I know anything at all, so the world could be flat for all I know.
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Double checked. My memory is nqr. The redirect in October was on Friday, 10/25/13, to the stock market page, which showed the S&P closing at 1759.77, an increase of 7.7%, which stayed posted all weekend http://volumewatchers.com/stock-market-analysis/10-25-2013-dow-jones-sp500-nasdaq-edge/
The S&P never closed at 1776 in 2013. And unless the stock market takes a HUGE dive, the S&P is not going to close at 1776 in the future either.
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I guess I'm on my own here in feeling quite relaxed about all this. So, TS may have made a(nother) false prediction (although as I've already said, I personally don't think he was predicting anything in this last post) - so what's new? He talks/writes in his own style that is deliberately open to misinterpretation - what's new? If he comes back and explains then great, if he posts Sign and Update 7, great - that'll be more stuff to make of what we will.
I'll be honest and say I've never totally discarded the idea that Front is MJ (wasn't convinced by the back, Mo and (?)Paul saga last year, and certainly am not swayed by TS saying that he is) but I already said before all that kicked off, that I hope he isn't! (Only because there are aspects of Twitter Front that don't fit how I think MJ really is, (setting myself up for a fall there I know!) or maybe they do ... IDK, probably best if I don't go any further with that!) And I was never going to join Twitter, even for MJ!
So it really makes no difference to me one way or the other - though I feel bad for those who could be terribly hurt, either way. I have built my life back up now after several years of being obsessed and isolated with this hoax. I take care and spend time on the things I know are real in my own personal little world. I hope this comes to a 'proper' definite conclusion, and soon, but if it doesn't I'll be ok. Chalk it up to experience I suppose.
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can't wait to see what happens with the redirects of may 10 & 12. i hope it doesn't end up like the " mike will be back by the end of 2012 -- NO MIKE, NO EXPLANATION, NO NOTHING!! oh, but we did get a houdini (?) disappearing trick. >:( not that i want to jump too deep into your shit but, had u came back with SOMETHING at the end of 2012 it would have helped ur credibility. otherwise, u r just talking loud & saying nothing. to make claims that u don't/can't back up makes u a joke (for entertainment purposes only). if u say front is mj, than u must know mj, can u at least prove that u know him. if i'm coming off harsh it's because i've always been a no-nonsense person. i don't do games, beat around the bush, or have time for B.S. that being said, if u have something concrete SPEAK UP if not SHUT UP. yes, u did/do keep things lively around here & keep the brains working. but, if ur intentions are to play games with us & use our caring for mj as a weakness, when it's said and done it won't be our weakness that u will remember. soooo...ball is in ur court and again welcome back.
sorry for the rant but my alter ego (THE BITCH) is surfacing. i don't feel like the up & down, going around in circles again. we've been there & done that.
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BAM!!!!!
The end comes SUDDENLY!
BAM!!!!!
Finally ... the time that we have all been waiting for!
TS = FAKE INFORMER (informer of the fake)
And did anyone notice when the S&P 500 closed at 1776—for the first time ever {http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=^gspc (http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=^gspc)}??
For now, though, I will say that I’m not Front, and I’m not MJ (as I’ve said before); but Front is the real MJ
BAM!!!!!
Let’s do it one more time ...
BAM!!!!!
Oh well now I get it. TS/_comments gives fake information. End of sentence.
Truth comes from within. Not from outside "sources", and especially not from someone who calls himself The Source.
Interesting 4.5 year circular journey. Well, it is/was entertaining.
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From a quick glance the closest I found.
Dec 13, 2013 1,777.98 1,780.92 1,772.45 1,775.32 3,061,070,000 1,775.32
Dec 12, 2013 1,781.71 1,782.99 1,772.28 1,775.50 3,306,640,000 1,775.50
It's not important anyway..
4-10. Rounding: Down, Nearest Whole, and Up
[...] inclusive reckoning is merely a system of rounding up to the next whole number (so anything from 1.1 to 1.9 would be rounded up to 2). Today, we usually round to the nearest whole number (1.1 to 1.4 rounded to 1; and 1.5 to 1.9 rounded to 2). And if not the nearest whole, we generally round down (1.1 to 1.9 rounded to 1).
Rounding up was a common system in Bible days, and MJ is very familiar with the Bible. In fact, this system is most well known in reference to the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ!
1 Corinthians 15:3,4, “Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” (see also Matthew 20:19; Mark 9:31; 10:34; Luke 18:33; 24:7,6; etc).
Jesus died and was buried on Friday (day #1), rested on the Sabbath (day #2), and rose on Sunday (day #3). There are many other Biblical examples of inclusive reckoning (read carefully Luke 13:32; Acts 10:3,9,23,24,30); but I will not take up anymore space here.
{http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,7064.0.html (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,7064.0.html)}
So If 1775.50 became 1776, how come 666.7 is still 666, shouldn't it have been 667?
(http://s13.postimg.org/qnvly7co7/Screen_Hunter_72_May_08_21_56.jpg)
{link: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=%5EGSPC&a=02&b=1&c=2009&d=03&e=30&f=2009&g=d (http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=%5EGSPC&a=02&b=1&c=2009&d=03&e=30&f=2009&g=d) }
Don't know whether it's of any importance.
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It IS important @Thriller4ever because that is where people are not playing by the same game. One day this rule applies, the other day some other rule because else the theory is wrong. TS meant BAM on 5/5 (MJ) and TS meant S&P500 closing on 5/5. God may strike me dead this very moment if that is not what he meant. So TS was wrong, meaning there is nothing left to look into regarding this post. That doesn't make me a bitch, it makes me a realist. What curls says is important too. It shouldn't matter whether or not there is a bam. If it will never happen (what I would find surprising but who knows), then people should have their own lives to worry about without being obsessed with this. And that is exactly what is happening now with Front and what I don't want to see happening with TS. Front is having his own clan of women there, all expecting big things only to get very disappointed in the end. Some might be fine and pick themselves up, others I have seen are pretty weak and might get damaged for life, or worse. And that is no joke. I rather have an empty forum for a bit because people think I am a bitch than that I would have to live with that shit because I allowed it.
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I get what you're saying Souza
But when it comes to hoax, viewer discretion is advised. We have long ago been warned that hoax wasn't meant for the fainthearted. And it's the people who end up being responsible for what they've been believing. I learned in these 4+ years not to be addicted to the hoax (which I terribly was) and I've even considered many different theories and scenarios to keep me grounded. TS's post was, to be brief, very unprofessional. The declaration of Front being MJ was very random, out of the blue. I'm aware many users in this forum must have been overwhelmed to hear that. But that's all upto them. We choose what to believe and it requires guts to take responsibilities for any damages (may God forbid).
But seriously there's nothing we can do about it. I don't think this hoax is anymore about cracking the codes, because, as you said, there's no pattern being followed.
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Souza - I don't see anyone here going crazy over Front - are you referring to the other forum? If so, you really can't blame yourself, or consider yourself responsible in some way for 'allowing' it to happen. Whatever, whoever you discourage or ban here, will always pop up somewhere else if they've got something to say or are that keen on having supporters/followers. Don't beat yourself up over this. If you want to ban TS, because you think some of us still think he's worth watching, and you don't, then go ahead and do it, if it'll make you feel better, it's your place after all, though again I don't see anyone here obsessed with him.
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bec, I caught the "fake informer" and "Front is the real MJ" thing too.
TS and Front seem to have (probably intentionally) contradicted each other. TS says he's an informer of the fake and then in the same post say Front is MJ. Front said on twitter that anyone who may actually know who MJ is online is NOT going to tell. And also said that anyone claiming to be MJ is definitely not MJ. It's gotten to the point where thinking Front is MJ or not doesn't matter as long as you are thinking for yourself. If someone sees something with 2 or more strong evidences that haven't been debunked to support a "theory", then at least it's a solid theory. Is it proof? No. Is it perspective (whatever an opinion might be)? Yes. If you're thinking for yourself then at least TS has done his "job" whatever else he might say true or untrue. And whatever anyone's opinion on Front is... he sure is one of, if not the most, controversial hoax "character".
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Souza - I don't see anyone here going crazy over Front - are you referring to the other forum? If so, you really can't blame yourself, or consider yourself responsible in some way for 'allowing' it to happen. Whatever, whoever you discourage or ban here, will always pop up somewhere else if they've got something to say or are that keen on having supporters/followers. Don't beat yourself up over this. If you want to ban TS, because you think some of us still think he's worth watching, and you don't, then go ahead and do it, if it'll make you feel better, it's your place after all, though again I don't see anyone here obsessed with him.
I was not talking about here and I am not going to BAN TS. I am only saying he is wrong, am I not allowed? I just hope he will simply admit it so people will not keep looking into things while there is nothing to look into. Is all I am saying.
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Then I apologise Souza, I thought you were saying more than that.
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One more thing, hasn't it been said constantly 'follow the money' ... what if that was someone wanting us to 'follow the markets' (in which case, gold star to bec!). That 'someone' doesn't have to be MJ, he's a handy hook for anyone to hang their own agenda on.
Did you mean to say that this whole stock market thing might have nothing to do with the hoax or Michael? Because I've been wondering where this financial thing is heading to?
Sorry Thriller, I forgot to reply to this earlier. Yes, I guess that is one of the thoughts that run through my mind. You have something you want people to take notice of, you use a 'celebrity' to 'sell' the idea. In this case, TS has something to say and could be simply linking himself to MJ's name (albeit in a very detailed way) to get attention. I have an idea where it's heading to ... and who The Source is, but I'm keeping quiet about that for now - not in a 'mysterious' way, I just don't want to say!
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Well I missed all of this and I'm quite glad I did to be honest. Did anyone see the article about ''Michael Jackson to Make Television History on the BBMAs'' I can't find it on the forum. Sorry about this being off topic.
EDIT: I see it's another thread, sorry about that so please ignore my comment about bbmas.
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TS/_comments has made no secret of being a fake. He's said it several times. He's said he would support false theories on at least two occasions. Once early on and again during the levels. He said if no Bam by 12/31/12, he's a fake. And he said it again on 5/5.
For all we know, the false theory he believes he is supporting is the hoax itself.
But I won't lie, I am entertained.
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He meant 5/5. He also meant MJ's BAM on 5/5. Maybe he will be back one more time to confirm this and stop this stuff because we are looking into the wrong things now. Or maybe GodhaschosenMJ can confirm. Because I am sick of being blamed for being a TS or Front hater while people try to make something out of a post that was simply a wrong prediction.
For the record #1: I like TS, I think he is a nice guy and I do not believe he is harmful, I spoke a lot to him before he went radio silent, I do not think he is MJ, I do not think he is related to MJ and I do not think he has it all right. I do think he has had some very interesting things and I think he has kept the forum alive longer than it normaly would have been because people are simply sick of waiting after almost 5 years. But I do not want people to leave 5 years of investigation for a troll that is wetting panties on a 'humble and friendly forum that trashes someone named S' (who might that be??) because this S is a heartless bitch and lynches TS and bashes Front (VERY humble and friendly...), simply because TS didn't read the forum for a year and a half. So I do not BASH or KICK OUT TS, I simply say he has been wrong on this. If anyone wants to fit this so they can still think Front is real or TS is 'slippery' then fine, but I do not want anyone to say afterwards that I knew and didn't tell anyone.
For the record #2: I still believe with all my heart that Front is a big fat nasty TROLL and everyone having wet panties over Front will have red cheeks of shame one day and I have the patience of an angel so go ahead and trash me there, but do not be nice in my face here because I am not an idiot. Like MJ said: THE TRUTH ALWAYS PREVAILS and even if I have to wait another 5 years, it will be worth it.
It was only a hunch, and since you are very clear now, I will detract in thinking you might deep down believe in TS/Front. Just trying to make sense of events, and TS did post on both forums, which have polar views on him. My apologies for abbreviating your name; I meant no disrespect (the "b" name certainly wasn't me).
Andrea
bec, I caught the "fake informer" and "Front is the real MJ" thing too.
TS and Front seem to have (probably intentionally) contradicted each other. TS says he's an informer of the fake and then in the same post say Front is MJ. Front said on twitter that anyone who may actually know who MJ is online is NOT going to tell. And also said that anyone claiming to be MJ is definitely not MJ. It's gotten to the point where thinking Front is MJ or not doesn't matter as long as you are thinking for yourself. If someone sees something with 2 or more strong evidences that haven't been debunked to support a "theory", then at least it's a solid theory. Is it proof? No. Is it perspective (whatever an opinion might be)? Yes. If you're thinking for yourself then at least TS has done his "job" whatever else he might say true or untrue. And whatever anyone's opinion on Front is... he sure is one of, if not the most, controversial hoax "character".
That's exactly the kind of layered truth all of this has been wrapped in for 5 years, and needs reading between the lines.
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TS/_comments has made no secret of being a fake. He's said it several times. He's said he would support false theories on at least two occasions. Once early on and again during the levels. He said if no Bam by 12/31/12, he's a fake. And he said it again on 5/5.
For all we know, the false theory he believes he is supporting is the hoax itself.
But I won't lie, I am entertained.
you are absolutely right, he did say if no mj by the end of 12/12 he's a fake. i guess the person i'm angry with is myself, for thinking he knew what he was talking about. now my question is why is he back here since he's proven himself to be a fake? i guess entertainment purposes only. in that case i agree with the person that said why waste your time?
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TS/_comments has made no secret of being a fake. He's said it several times. He's said he would support false theories on at least two occasions. Once early on and again during the levels. He said if no Bam by 12/31/12, he's a fake. And he said it again on 5/5.
For all we know, the false theory he believes he is supporting is the hoax itself.
But I won't lie, I am entertained.
you are absolutely right, he did say if no mj by the end of 12/12 he's a fake. i guess the person i'm angry with is myself, for thinking he knew what he was talking about. now my question is why is he back here since he's proven himself to be a fake? i guess entertainment purposes only. in that case i agree with the person that said why waste your time?
TS said he is a fake informer, and he also said that Front is real MJ. So TS is probably back to say Front is fake by proving himself fake, again (which we already knew)
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... i guess entertainment purposes only. in that case i agree with the person that said why waste your time?
Nothing wrong with entertainment! (As long as one treats it as such and doesn't take it too seriously) But I agree, if it's not your thing then don't spend/waste your time on it.
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TS/_comments has made no secret of being a fake. He's said it several times. He's said he would support false theories on at least two occasions. Once early on and again during the levels. He said if no Bam by 12/31/12, he's a fake. And he said it again on 5/5.
For all we know, the false theory he believes he is supporting is the hoax itself.
But I won't lie, I am entertained.
Agree. Here again, the possible mixture of serious hoax and ARG hoax. In ARGs, the "characters" and puppetmaster(s) don't necessarily tell the truth, but provide a mix of sometimes truth and sometimes false, leading the players farther down the "rabbit hole" (and 5 years is a loooong time). That's my understanding of some of the components of an ARG, anyway. Maybe someone else knows more, and please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I bet he will say "The Source" of all his info all these years is God.
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Did you think about the possibility that TS might be a character put in here just to mislead us? He might be saying truths, half truths and falsehoods, now we have to figure out which ones are the truths and which ones are the falsehoods. I still keep on saying TS is a fake informer (informer of the fake).
PS: I don't usually wet my panties with Front, but if I do, it's my own business and no one else.
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*Bangs head against wall and gives up*
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I disagree, @sunset; anything you post on the internet becomes the world's business.
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It would actually be funny If TS the fake informer saying he is not MJ and Front is MJ means he is actually MJ and front is not. Please do not take this and run with it,I am just having fun with the situation.
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It would actually be funny If TS the fake informer saying he is not MJ and Front is MJ means he is actually MJ and front is not. Please do not take this and run with it,I am just having fun with the situation.
well that's what I partially said here, I consider the situation to be possible, i personally think so.
TS said he is a fake informer, and he also said that Front is real MJ. So TS is probably back to say Front is fake by proving himself fake, again (which we already knew)
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I'm far too simple for all this......
I'm just totally confused! :elvis-1405:
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Darn you TS/_comments, it's been over a year since I daydreamed about the hoax while I'm supposed to be working. I blame you for my relapse. Even though you're a fake informer, your posts are interesting. I like to try to prove you are wrong. I think I did prove you wrong in the DWD theory, but you didn't concede the debate. Unless your disappearance from the forum for a year and a half should be considered an admittance of defeat on level 7; one could interpret it as such, because that level was not finished in accordance with your own parameters. I won that debate. You struck a couple of my points legitimately, but if memory serves, you never answered others and your supportive "evidence" was unsubstantiated. You didn't back up your argument. You also didn't come back to answer challenges to your explanation. You may or may not have read past your last log in date, but your DWD theory was not universally accepted or supported on the forum. There were many that found fault with your version of truth. So we know you have been fake for a long time, but it's still fun to see you redirecting and posting with promise of updates n such. You made the ARG as far as I'm concerned so, thank you!
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I'm far too simple for all this......
I'm just totally confused! :elvis-1405:
:icon_lol: that makes two of us. it's been so long i forgot about the DWD and ARG. ARG is a game - correct? so is this actually a game? when i came to this sight i noticed MJ was being used as a platform to expose the corruption that exist, thru a youtube poster for mj death hoax his/her vids consisted of that exposer, somehow i landed here. here the same was being exposed along with what really happened on 6/25. i'm confused, is this something to be taken seriously or is it a game? i do remember postings about an ARG. i looked up ARG and read some of it. so that would make TS the puppetmaster ( i don't care to much for that title because i don't like the fact of someone pulling my strings). should i have been taking this as something serious to expose the worlds problems or a game. :icon_e_confused: this was in the ARG definition-
This Is Not A Game (TINAG) – Setting the ARG form apart from other games is the This Is Not A Game sentiment popularized by the players themselves. It is the belief that “one of the main goals of the ARG is to deny and disguise the fact that it is even a game at all.”[5]
i did enjoy reading how you all put your heads together to figure something out. and i loved the redirects. but does this consist of a beginning, middle, and end? will we ever get any concrete proof on mj. even if no return that he is alright?
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BAM!!!!!
The end comes SUDDENLY!
{http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/religion/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=67 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/religion/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=67)}
BAM!!!!!
Finally ... the time that we have all been waiting for!
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but what did TS's whole post have to do with Cinco de mayo, apart from the date 5/5/14
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Darn you TS/_comments, it's been over a year since I daydreamed about the hoax while I'm supposed to be working. I blame you for my relapse. Even though you're a fake informer, your posts are interesting. I like to try to prove you are wrong. I think I did prove you wrong in the DWD theory, but you didn't concede the debate. Unless your disappearance from the forum for a year and a half should be considered an admittance of defeat on level 7; one could interpret it as such, because that level was not finished in accordance with your own parameters. I won that debate. You struck a couple of my points legitimately, but if memory serves, you never answered others and your supportive "evidence" was unsubstantiated. You didn't back up your argument. You also didn't come back to answer challenges to your explanation. You may or may not have read past your last log in date, but your DWD theory was not universally accepted or supported on the forum. There were many that found fault with your version of truth. So we know you have been fake for a long time, but it's still fun to see you redirecting and posting with promise of updates n such. You made the ARG as far as I'm concerned so, thank you!
i don't think he made the arg, i think he is a player too.
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So it really makes no difference to me one way or the other [..]
I hope this comes to a 'proper' definite conclusion, and soon, but if it doesn't I'll be ok. Chalk it up to experience I suppose.
Same here.
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but what did TS's whole post have to do with Cinco de mayo, apart from the date 5/5/14
Good question! According to CNN:
Actually today commemorates Mexico's victory against the French during the Battle of Puebla in 1862, and according to research by UCLA professor David Hayes-Bautista, it isn't a Mexican holiday at all but rather an American one created by Latinos in California during the Civil War.
There was a controversy that day at MSNBC where some white guy sported a sombrero chugging a bottle of tequilla. The video is telling IMO, especially since it mentions another racist, Donald Sterling. (Whose story broke on TMZ - just saying)
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/06/us/msnbc-apology/
Has anyone noticed all the news stories lately dealing with race issues?
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but what did TS's whole post have to do with Cinco de mayo, apart from the date 5/5/14
Good question! According to CNN:
Actually today commemorates Mexico's victory against the French during the Battle of Puebla in 1862, and according to research by UCLA professor David Hayes-Bautista, it isn't a Mexican holiday at all but rather an American one created by Latinos in California during the Civil War.
There was a controversy that day at MSNBC where some white guy sported a sombrero chugging a bottle of tequilla. The video is telling IMO, especially since it mentions another racist, Donald Sterling. (Whose story broke on TMZ - just saying)
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/06/us/msnbc-apology/
Has anyone noticed all the news stories lately dealing with race issues?
[ot]Yes! :icon_rolleyes: (Another rabbit hole altogether. . . .)[/ot]
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Darn you TS/_comments, it's been over a year since I daydreamed about the hoax while I'm supposed to be working. I blame you for my relapse. Even though you're a fake informer, your posts are interesting. I like to try to prove you are wrong. I think I did prove you wrong in the DWD theory, but you didn't concede the debate. Unless your disappearance from the forum for a year and a half should be considered an admittance of defeat on level 7; one could interpret it as such, because that level was not finished in accordance with your own parameters. I won that debate. You struck a couple of my points legitimately, but if memory serves, you never answered others and your supportive "evidence" was unsubstantiated. You didn't back up your argument. You also didn't come back to answer challenges to your explanation. You may or may not have read past your last log in date, but your DWD theory was not universally accepted or supported on the forum. There were many that found fault with your version of truth. So we know you have been fake for a long time, but it's still fun to see you redirecting and posting with promise of updates n such. You made the ARG as far as I'm concerned so, thank you!
i don't think he made the arg, i think he is a player too.
Or maybe he’s one of the puppetmasters. It’s my understanding that there can be more than one and not necessarily the same person operating as different puppetmasters.
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I'm far too simple for all this......
I'm just totally confused! :elvis-1405:
:icon_lol: that makes two of us. it's been so long i forgot about the DWD and ARG. ARG is a game - correct? so is this actually a game? when i came to this sight i noticed MJ was being used as a platform to expose the corruption that exist, thru a youtube poster for mj death hoax his/her vids consisted of that exposer, somehow i landed here. here the same was being exposed along with what really happened on 6/25. i'm confused, is this something to be taken seriously or is it a game? i do remember postings about an ARG. i looked up ARG and read some of it. so that would make TS the puppetmaster ( i don't care to much for that title because i don't like the fact of someone pulling my strings). should i have been taking this as something serious to expose the worlds problems or a game. :icon_e_confused: this was in the ARG definition-
This Is Not A Game (TINAG) – Setting the ARG form apart from other games is the This Is Not A Game sentiment popularized by the players themselves. It is the belief that “one of the main goals of the ARG is to deny and disguise the fact that it is even a game at all.”[5]
i did enjoy reading how you all put your heads together to figure something out. and i loved the redirects. but does this consist of a beginning, middle, and end? will we ever get any concrete proof on mj. even if no return that he is alright?
Both (i.e., part serious, part game). That’s my vote, anyway. Seems we’ve all drawn our own conclusions.
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Darn you TS/_comments, it's been over a year since I daydreamed about the hoax while I'm supposed to be working. I blame you for my relapse. Even though you're a fake informer, your posts are interesting. I like to try to prove you are wrong. I think I did prove you wrong in the DWD theory, but you didn't concede the debate. Unless your disappearance from the forum for a year and a half should be considered an admittance of defeat on level 7; one could interpret it as such, because that level was not finished in accordance with your own parameters. I won that debate. You struck a couple of my points legitimately, but if memory serves, you never answered others and your supportive "evidence" was unsubstantiated. You didn't back up your argument. You also didn't come back to answer challenges to your explanation. You may or may not have read past your last log in date, but your DWD theory was not universally accepted or supported on the forum. There were many that found fault with your version of truth. So we know you have been fake for a long time, but it's still fun to see you redirecting and posting with promise of updates n such. You made the ARG as far as I'm concerned so, thank you!
i don't think he made the arg, i think he is a player too.
"Made"= made it fun, made it awesome, made it interesting, made it worth playing for years, etc, "made". Perhaps an American figure of speech, not sure.
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Darn you TS/_comments, it's been over a year since I daydreamed about the hoax while I'm supposed to be working. I blame you for my relapse. Even though you're a fake informer, your posts are interesting. I like to try to prove you are wrong. I think I did prove you wrong in the DWD theory, but you didn't concede the debate. Unless your disappearance from the forum for a year and a half should be considered an admittance of defeat on level 7; one could interpret it as such, because that level was not finished in accordance with your own parameters. I won that debate. You struck a couple of my points legitimately, but if memory serves, you never answered others and your supportive "evidence" was unsubstantiated. You didn't back up your argument. You also didn't come back to answer challenges to your explanation. You may or may not have read past your last log in date, but your DWD theory was not universally accepted or supported on the forum. There were many that found fault with your version of truth. So we know you have been fake for a long time, but it's still fun to see you redirecting and posting with promise of updates n such. You made the ARG as far as I'm concerned so, thank you!
i don't think he made the arg, i think he is a player too.
"Made"= made it fun, made it awesome, made it interesting, made it worth playing for years, etc, "made". Perhaps an American figure of speech, not sure.
Ah, i wasn't familiar with that usage, but now I am.
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but what did TS's whole post have to do with Cinco de mayo, apart from the date 5/5/14
Good question! According to CNN:
Actually today commemorates Mexico's victory against the French during the Battle of Puebla in 1862, and according to research by UCLA professor David Hayes-Bautista, it isn't a Mexican holiday at all but rather an American one created by Latinos in California during the Civil War.
There was a controversy that day at MSNBC where some white guy sported a sombrero chugging a bottle of tequilla. The video is telling IMO, especially since it mentions another racist, Donald Sterling. (Whose story broke on TMZ - just saying)
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/06/us/msnbc-apology/
Has anyone noticed all the news stories lately dealing with race issues?
Oh that video was quite offensive. But I don't think the TS's post was dealing with racial issues, though it's true that war against racism always was on MJ's mind (Black or White Panther version, speeches against Sony). Lately I feel TMZ and the hoax are no more coordinated.
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Quote from: Thriller4ever on Today at 05:54:31 AM (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,24520.msg450710.html#msg450710)
Quote from: bec on Today at 03:51:31 AM (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,24520.msg450707.html#msg450707)
Darn you TS/_comments, it's been over a year since I daydreamed about the hoax while I'm supposed to be working. I blame you for my relapse. Even though you're a fake informer, your posts are interesting. I like to try to prove you are wrong. I think I did prove you wrong in the DWD theory, but you didn't concede the debate. Unless your disappearance from the forum for a year and a half should be considered an admittance of defeat on level 7; one could interpret it as such, because that level was not finished in accordance with your own parameters. I won that debate. You struck a couple of my points legitimately, but if memory serves, you never answered others and your supportive "evidence" was unsubstantiated. You didn't back up your argument. You also didn't come back to answer challenges to your explanation. You may or may not have read past your last log in date, but your DWD theory was not universally accepted or supported on the forum. There were many that found fault with your version of truth. So we know you have been fake for a long time, but it's still fun to see you redirecting and posting with promise of updates n such. You made the ARG as far as I'm concerned so, thank you!
i don't think he made the arg, i think he is a player too. Or maybe he’s one of the puppetmasters. It’s my understanding that there can be more than one and not necessarily the same person operating as different puppetmasters.
Well, that's true. Anyways he's showing the wrong way, or the right way in a wrong way, idk
(i'm sorry for three separate replies, how should i include multiple quotes in the same post?)
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Perhaps this is a stretch, but there is a Cinco de Mayo story on V. Stiviano. There's only one person I know who could make up a crazy character like our Ms. V, but here we see her with her now famous visor (reminiscent of MJ's 'Army' ???) riding a BLACK BULL??? It could have a sexual connotation but it could also relate to the stock market, where everyone is 'bullish'? The TIAI redirect was to the stock market, after all.
http://www.tmz.com/2014/05/06/v-stiviano-cinco-de-mayo-photo/
If MJ = V and V is riding a bull, does that mean MJ = control of the stock market?
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wtf?
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ok sorry someone catch me up please :-[ ts posted on the new front forum or the other one that has been around a while? or was it ts comments? i am confused . :Pulling_hair:
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but what did TS's whole post have to do with Cinco de mayo, apart from the date 5/5/14
Good question! According to CNN:
Actually today commemorates Mexico's victory against the French during the Battle of Puebla in 1862, and according to research by UCLA professor David Hayes-Bautista, it isn't a Mexican holiday at all but rather an American one created by Latinos in California during the Civil War.
There was a controversy that day at MSNBC where some white guy sported a sombrero chugging a bottle of tequilla. The video is telling IMO, especially since it mentions another racist, Donald Sterling. (Whose story broke on TMZ - just saying)
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/06/us/msnbc-apology/
Has anyone noticed all the news stories lately dealing with race issues?
[ot]Yes! :icon_rolleyes: (Another rabbit hole altogether. . . .)[/ot]
i thought i made a reply about media being the cause for on-going racial tensions, but my post disappeared.
again: racism = divide and conquer.
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TS said:
I For those who are interested in The Signs: the final one, Sign # 7, will be the redirect for Saturday, May 10.
Someone saw the redirection? or I'm lost.
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No redirect at time of this post.
There's always a story about race/racism in the news. Any given week of any given year. That is not new or recent.
@Thriller, just scroll down on the compose post page and click add quote button above the selected post.
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Redirecting now to '7 Devils Working Miracles'. It's a FileTrip pdf to download which I'm kind of reluctant to do. Heaven knows what viruses those devils might sneak onto my computer!
http://filetrip.net/dl?An4a0FN6Gg
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Click view file to safely view the file.
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^^^ Thanks, that's what I'm doing now bec ... and copying it.
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@Thriller, just scroll down on the compose post page and click add quote button above the selected post.
@Thriller, just scroll down on the compose post page and click add quote button above the selected post.
Thanks I got it!
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Well what a MAB.....sorry BAM :icon_geek: it was :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121:!!!! TS ,thanks again.....for nothing :icon_e_wink: .Fool me once,fool me twice.....fool me over and over ,till I will finally graduate lol :thjajaja121:...
(http://media.giphy.com/media/y6hoIEgCKi5Ta/giphy.gif)
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Seriously, are you on drugs?
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so the day is a celebration of a thwarted takeover ?
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Just wanted to let everyone know the S&P 500 Index did hit the high water mark on 11/13/13 @ 1776. It did not stay there for long though.
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http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:gW6aojlChNYJ:blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2013/11/13/stock-market-live-blog-china-fears-ahead-of-yellen-hearing/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Take a look at the note for the timeframe of 1:45PM on that 11/13/2013.
1:45 pm
by William L. Watts
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Stocks extending gains on the Yellen testimony speculation, with the S&P 500 on track for a record close. The S&P is up 8 points, or 0.5%, at 1,776, above its record closing high of 1,771.95 on Oct. 29. The Dow Jones Industrial Average turned higher and is now up 32 points, or 0.2%, to 15,783, not far off the record close of 15,783.10 notched on Monday. The Nasdaq Composite is up 29 points, or 0.7%, to 3,949.
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Thanks Sandal! I'm not so good with numbers, so I find it hard to grasp the significance of all this, since numbers fluctuate all the time.
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TIAI Re-direct for 6/19/14 www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q="see+you+next+wednesday"
Did anyone notice the wording of TS in Sign 7, Update 7? He said, "I can't say an exact day or date for the BAM; but I can say that it's very soon, within days---not years, or even months!" Did anyone notice the word weeks was left out and the word FEW days was NOT in it??!!!!!
Whoo hoo, looking forward to Next Wednesday!! And so from May 5th to next Wednesday is less than monthS!!
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TIAI Re-direct for 6/19/14 www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q="see+you+next+wednesday"
Did anyone notice the wording of TS in Sign 7, Update 7? He said, "I can't say an exact day or date for the BAM; but I can say that it's very soon, within days---not years, or even months!" Did anyone notice the word weeks was left out and the word FEW days was NOT in it??!!!!!
Whoo hoo, looking forward to Next Wednesday!! And so from May 5th to next Wednesday is less than monthS!!
Next Wednesday is JUNE 25TH!!! I guess 'See you next Wednesday' is a running gag in many John Landis films - Thriller????
From Wiki: 'In the Michael Jackson music video Thriller (1983), the phrase is spoken by a deputy in the horror movie that Michael and his girlfriend are watching. It is also visible as a poster on the outside of the cinema as they leave.'
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https://www.google.co.in/?gws_rd=cr&ei=snWiU4beDsXGuATShYKABQ#q=%22see+you+next+wednesday%22 (https://www.google.co.in/?gws_rd=cr&ei=snWiU4beDsXGuATShYKABQ#q=%22see+you+next+wednesday%22)
here is the proper link.
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... Did anyone notice the wording of TS in Sign 7, Update 7? He said, "I can't say an exact day or date for the BAM; but I can say that it's very soon, within days---not years, or even months!" Did anyone notice the word weeks was left out and the word FEW days was NOT in it??!!!!!
... And so from May 5th to next Wednesday is less than monthS!!
Why do you highlight that TS left out the word weeks? IF next Wednesday were to prove significant, it would be within weeks of 5th May (7 weeks and 2 days, i.e. within 8 weeks to be precise). So if TS genuinely knows things in advance, there would've been no need to leave out 'weeks' would there? Or are you suggesting he left out 'weeks' precisely because that was the important bit?
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@Thriller TY for correct link, I was in too big a hurry!
@Curls I think, your thinking the word weeks would be true if he said BAM is within weeks, but I'm saying if the word weeks is used in the NOT months, or years section we would already be passed weeks after 13 days have gone by! And of course some have thought that the "in days" meant FEW days as in less than weeks!! So days can be up to 60 days before we hit the not months! In my calculations that takes us to July 5th before the 60 days run out! Hope this helps?!
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TS/_comments doesn't know anything. He already confessed so it's totally irrelevant what he said or didn't say. It would be just as useful to sit here and analyze curls' old posts.
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TS/_comments doesn't know anything. He already confessed so it's totally irrelevant what he said or didn't say. It would be just as useful to sit here and analyze curls' old posts.
Perhaps. But it's always interesting. For example, Landis got the phrase from 2001 A Space Odyssey, a very (oc)cult film if there ever was one.
Again, from Wiki: Landis got the title See You Next Wednesday from the 1968 movie, 2001: A Space Odyssey. It is the last line spoken by Frank Poole's father during Poole's videophone conversation with his parents.[1]
Link to the movie clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpzCGZnpXkE&hd=1
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I bet he will say "The Source" of all his info all these years is God.
Interesting. I was just reading back through this thread to refresh my memory of the conversation, and Bec, basically, that is indeed what TS said in “Sign 7 & Update 7.” Said that the source of his info is primarily “providence” but that he is “not immune to deception” by the devil when receiving providence. :icon_neutral:
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TS/_comments doesn't know anything. He already confessed so it's totally irrelevant what he said or didn't say. It would be just as useful to sit here and analyze curls' old posts.
That's kind of what I was getting at bec. Godhaschosen, you are, IMO, reading far too much into TS's use (or not) of words.
And believe it or not, yesterday I looked at the calendar, saw that 25th was next Wednesday and straight away thought of the 'See you next Wednesday' bit in Thriller. I wish I'd posted and beaten TS to it ... then you could've analysed my post and wondered what I knew!! LOL! As you say, totally irrelevant!
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... Did anyone notice the wording of TS in Sign 7, Update 7? He said, "I can't say an exact day or date for the BAM; but I can say that it's very soon, within days---not years, or even months!" Did anyone notice the word weeks was left out and the word FEW days was NOT in it??!!!!!
... And so from May 5th to next Wednesday is less than monthS!!
Why do you highlight that TS left out the word weeks? IF next Wednesday were to prove significant, it would be within weeks of 5th May (7 weeks and 2 days, i.e. within 8 weeks to be precise). So if TS genuinely knows things in advance, there would've been no need to leave out 'weeks' would there? Or are you suggesting he left out 'weeks' precisely because that was the important bit?
Not sure if its the place to put this, but seems appropriate, have you guys seen what thisisalsoit page is reading now! coincidence or what https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=cr&ei=s0qjU_zOCIPjPLnLgJgG#q=%22see+you+next+wednesday%22 :icon_eek:
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^^^ Yes thanks, we've seen it, hence this convo - see post #104 above!
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ummm sorry if i am behind but was it actually proven that tscomments is without a doubt ts ? sorry if i missed it :-[
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TS/_comments doesn't know anything. He already confessed so it's totally irrelevant what he said or didn't say. It would be just as useful to sit here and analyze curls' old posts.
Perhaps. But it's always interesting. For example, Landis got the phrase from 2001 A Space Odyssey, a very (oc)cult film if there ever was one.
Again, from Wiki: Landis got the title See You Next Wednesday from the 1968 movie, 2001: A Space Odyssey. It is the last line spoken by Frank Poole's father during Poole's videophone conversation with his parents.[1]
Link to the movie clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpzCGZnpXkE&hd=1
Yeah so look, it's John Landis's thing, it's not even MJ's so why would he even use it.
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Godhaschosen, you are, IMO, reading far too much into TS's use (or not) of words.
Reading far too much or wanting others to read far too much into it, that's for sure.
@GodhaschosenMJ, are you sure this is what you want to do here now?
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Godhaschosen, you are, IMO, reading far too much into TS's use (or not) of words.
Reading far too much or wanting others to read far too much into it, that's for sure.
@GodhaschosenMJ, are you sure this is what you want to do here now?
@Bec A lot I could say, but better judgement says wait and let you find out later! It won't be much longer! What exactly did you mean by the above question? What am I doing in your opinion?
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TS/_comments doesn't know anything. He already confessed so it's totally irrelevant what he said or didn't say. It would be just as useful to sit here and analyze curls' old posts.
That's kind of what I was getting at bec. Godhaschosen, you are, IMO, reading far too much into TS's use (or not) of words.
And believe it or not, yesterday I looked at the calendar, saw that 25th was next Wednesday and straight away thought of the 'See you next Wednesday' bit in Thriller. I wish I'd posted and beaten TS to it ... then you could've analysed my post and wondered what I knew!! LOL! As you say, totally irrelevant!
@Curls I say this in love and peace, go ahead and LOL all you want, I don't have to wonder what I KNOW!!!
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I'm sorry Godhaschosen, I was not laughing at you - I don't LOL at 'I-know-stuff-but-can't-say-what' posters. My LOL comment was a nod to bec's bit about analysing my posts.
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ummm sorry if i am behind but was it actually proven that tscomments is without a doubt ts ? sorry if i missed it :-[
This from TS_comments' first post (don't know if that makes it 'without a doubt'!):
You may have noticed, I have signed up with a different username for making comments (I will still use the “TS” username for new updates).
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,17656.msg302321.html#msg302321
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Godhaschosen, you are, IMO, reading far too much into TS's use (or not) of words.
Reading far too much or wanting others to read far too much into it, that's for sure.
@GodhaschosenMJ, are you sure this is what you want to do here now?
@Bec A lot I could say, but better judgement says wait and let you find out later! It won't be much longer! What exactly did you mean by the above question? What am I doing in your opinion?
That answers my question. I'm disappointed, I'll leave it at that.
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ummm sorry if i am behind but was it actually proven that tscomments is without a doubt ts ? sorry if i missed it :-[
This from TS_comments' first post (don't know if that makes it 'without a doubt'!):
You may have noticed, I have signed up with a different username for making comments (I will still use the “TS” username for new updates).
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,17656.msg302321.html#msg302321
so all the thisisalsoit redirects started with ts ?
going to go ahead and comment since it seems like it takes at least a day these days for response when there used to be someone here constantly.
something that pops out to me are 2001 a space odyssey elvis intro / exit music and michael stock market opening bell ceremony his 43rd birthday 2001.
one other thing peaks in my brain about the see you next wednesday . perhaps it would be better to look for some phrase that can be found throughout michaels short films in the same manner .
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ummm sorry if i am behind but was it actually proven that tscomments is without a doubt ts ? sorry if i missed it :-[
This from TS_comments' first post (don't know if that makes it 'without a doubt'!):
You may have noticed, I have signed up with a different username for making comments (I will still use the “TS” username for new updates).
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,17656.msg302321.html#msg302321
so all the thisisalsoit redirects started with ts ?
going to go ahead and comment since it seems like it takes at least a day these days for response when there used to be someone here constantly.
something that pops out to me are 2001 a space odyssey elvis intro / exit music and michael stock market opening bell ceremony his 43rd birthday 2001.
one other thing peaks in my brain about the see you next wednesday . perhaps it would be better to look for some phrase that can be found throughout michaels short films in the same manner .
As I mentioned earlier, the phrase appears twice in Thriller. This also from Wiki:
[quoteIn the Michael Jackson music video Black or White (1991) SYNW is shown on the window which Michael Jackson throws a garbage can through, the window is that of a company named "See You Next Wednesday Storage Co."][/quote]
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But as TS has no more connection to MJ than the rest of us, 'see you next wednesday', if it means anything at all, may just be that TS will 'see us' i.e. post again, on Wednesday.
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Yes I thought of that too, it might also be a date for another redirect.
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Quite from Sup...Mind "so all the thisisalsoit redirects started with ts ?"
YES, TS, TS-Comments, & Thisisalsoit.com aka TIAI, all same person, from beginning to now!
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But as TS has no more connection to MJ than the rest of us, 'see you next wednesday', if it means anything at all, may just be that TS will 'see us' i.e. post again, on Wednesday.
:LolLolLolLol: that does make sense