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Title: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: MJ_TheKingOfPop on March 22, 2014, 01:34:50 AM
This is not meant to share your reasons, not is it meant to tell anyone that MJ will not come back or change their opinion, but I'd like to know why you think MJ will be back, regardless if he is alive or not?


1. Coming back will destroy his rep.
2. Media will have a field day making fun of him.
3. He could face potential legal troubles.



Why would he come back and have his reputation damaged?

As I said, I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion, just asking a simple question.
Title: Re: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on March 22, 2014, 01:29:51 PM
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This is not meant to share your reasons, not is it meant to tell anyone that MJ will not come back or change their opinion, but I'd like to know why you think MJ will be back, regardless if he is alive or not?


1. Coming back will destroy his rep.
2. Media will have a field day making fun of him.
3. He could face potential legal troubles.



Why would he come back and have his reputation damaged?

As I said, I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion, just asking a simple question.

First at all if he is dead he can't come back, lol---> well just a joke cause that sentence wasn't the most appropriate.


1. Coming back will destroy his rep. = I'm not sure about it.
2. Media will have a field day making fun of him = I'm not sure about it.
3. He could face potential legal trouble = Not true:  3.1- Not against law to fake death nor make $$ in USA, only in case you were avoiding Taxes then would be against low, 3.2 - Michael never received money from any Life Insurance  nor any of his family members 3.3 - If MJ comes back and the law recognizes he is ALIVE, MJ would owe zero Estate tax, the $702 million would be not admissible. 3.4 - A bill for $702 million from IRS should be enough to bring MJ out of hiding. 3.5 - MJ didn't break the low with his faked death, he has left everything very well tied so no jail in case of return. 3.6 -  http://abcnews.go.com/Health/HealthCare/lack-estate-tax-2010-now-cheaper-die/story?id=9412614
----->Excellent good thing MJ faked death in 2009 because 2010 could've been tax evasion=BIG crime=lots of jail time= MJ SMART.

PS: I'm 99% sure he is not coming back, things are not going as planned although he would need to come back to finish with some issues.
Title: Re: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: blankie on March 22, 2014, 06:28:47 PM
@sweetsunsetwithMJ  PS: I'm 99% sure he is not coming back, things are not going as planned although he would need to come back to finish with some issues.

If Michael will not come back is because he  has found his equilibrium , because he finally has the life he wanted..... but all can be .....  :icon_e_smile: :moonwalk_:

Title: Re: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: curls on March 23, 2014, 03:06:17 AM
First of all I have to say I'm not sure anymore that he will be coming back. But, if he were to:

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1. Coming back will destroy his rep.
What reputation is that then? The never ending one of child molester, weirdo, freak, drug abuser, etc etc that much of the world believes?  Or the equally pathetic one, of all sweetness and light, 'MJ would never do this and that', that much of his fanbase believes?  Bring on the real MJ I say - let us all see who he really is.

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2. Media will have a field day making fun of him.
So, what's new? My (maybe unrealistic) hopes have always been that a comeback would be done in such a way as to finally open the world's eyes to the lies, deception and general immorality that are all pervasive in the government agenda driven main stream media.  A few deliberately distracting tabloid jokes at MJ's expense would be a small, and ultimately transparent, price to pay for that awakening, IMO.

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3. He could face potential legal troubles.
I wonder what proportion of MJ's adult life was actually free of legal troubles. Can't begin to imagine how stressful that must be. So I hope, and realistically suspect, legal loopholes have been used throughout all this, though actually, I can't see that he's done anything illegal, especially viewing this as I do, as primarily an artistic production.

Problem is that without hindsight through a revelation of the hoax (at least) or a comeback (at best), it will never be acknowledged or fully understood.
Title: Re: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on March 23, 2014, 02:58:41 PM
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@sweetsunsetwithMJ  PS: I'm 99% sure he is not coming back, things are not going as planned although he would need to come back to finish with some issues.

If Michael will not come back is because he  has found his equilibrium , because he finally has the life he wanted..... but all can be .....  :icon_e_smile: :moonwalk_:

I don't think so Blankie, somebody is stopping Michael from coming back.
Title: Re: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: blankie on March 23, 2014, 05:24:09 PM
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@sweetsunsetwithMJ  PS: I'm 99% sure he is not coming back, things are not going as planned although he would need to come back to finish with some issues.

If Michael will not come back is because he  has found his equilibrium , because he finally has the life he wanted..... but all can be .....  :icon_e_smile: :moonwalk_:

I don't think so Blankie, somebody is stopping Michael from coming back.

Thanks for your answer sweet:I want to think very well about it .... but who and why?  :confused:
Title: Re: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: voiceforthesilent on March 23, 2014, 10:54:06 PM
Hi - thank you for the question.

I always thought that MJ could come back to fulfill the BAM, the "and play with them for awhile..." TII line. I always thought he'd return only if they could get those boys to come forward and admit they were lying. That has not happened, at least publicly, so I don't think he's coming back any more. I'd love to be proven wrong.

Blessings
Title: Re: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on March 24, 2014, 10:21:51 AM
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Hi - thank you for the question.

I always thought that MJ could come back to fulfill the BAM, the "and play with them for awhile..." TII line. I always thought he'd return only if they could get those boys to come forward and admit they were lying. That has not happened, at least publicly, so I don't think he's coming back any more. I'd love to be proven wrong.

Blessings

I think it's more of a safety issue than anything else. I think as long as his comeback is safe for Michael and his children this might happen otherwise will never happen.
Title: Re: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: curls on March 24, 2014, 11:49:49 AM
@sweetsunset, what makes you think somebody is stopping him from coming back?  What makes you think its a safety issue?
Title: Re: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on March 24, 2014, 04:03:19 PM
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@sweetsunset, what makes you think somebody is stopping him from coming back?  What makes you think its a safety issue?

It's not that I think it is more that I know it. I don't consider myself a beLIEver anymore I think I jumped to the next stage long time ago and I've become a knower. BAM had to have already happened but something/somebody stopped it, anything else is just grasping at straws.
 
Title: Re: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: curls on March 24, 2014, 04:13:13 PM
I'll rephrase it then - how do you know somebody stopped him coming back? How do you know it's a safety issue? That's a bold claim to make sweet!
Title: Re: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: scorpionchik on March 24, 2014, 09:34:03 PM
Michael is not coming back because he is most probably dead. If he is happily alive, then that will be the good reason not to come back.  Love you MJ anyway  :-*
Title: Re: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: RK on March 25, 2014, 12:05:51 AM
How about we compile a list of the benefits of each scenario.....
I'll throw a couple of reasons for each out there off the top of my head.

(A) For a comeback.....
To be inovative [let's be honest, others have hoaxed death before, but as we've always said, none have publicly came back yet. ]
To wake the world up from sheep sleep and start them questioning and thinking for themselves.
To expose media lies and manipulation.
Put the records straight regarding playing the media / chi-mo allegations past and pending.
create platform for global warning of elitist agendas and plans


(B) Reasons not to come back
Source of income piling in without having to 'perform' anymore for it.
Anonymity
Personal happiness
Stalker free and privacy.



The way I see things is that column A is more about the welfare of the world's inhabitants and column B is perhaps more self and family centered.
I guess I have to ask myself "Do I think MJ is more selfishly motivated than concerned for the welfare of the entire planet. He never backed down from calling out atrocities through his art like in Earth Song and TDRCAU so I still hold out hope that the pattern of his character will follow on as it did throughout his public life and that he will be back. 
Title: Re: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: curls on March 25, 2014, 03:20:07 AM
Thing is RK, I'd need to know about what his life is like now, before I made the judgement that personal happiness is a reason not to come back. We simply do not know what, if anything, he has gained (in terms of quality of life) by being 'dead'?  He may have just swapped one set of problems for another. 

He might have the luxury of a situation whereby without make up, wigs, flashy clothes he can just blend in unnoticed.  He might be able to go out with family and friends - you know, do all the normal things of life: walking, shopping, picnics, cinema, concerts, visiting friends, museums, holidays ... without arousing suspicion.

Or he might still be a virtual prisoner because he is still recognisable as 'Michael Jackson' and therefore has the hassle of having to put on disguises to even pop his head out of the front door.

Maybe the pre-2009 MJ was the disguised one - in pre-planned preparation for this very time??  That'd be pretty cool actually!

Just a few thoughts.
Title: Re: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: Its her on March 29, 2014, 02:44:15 AM
Why do I think MJ will come back?  Because.  ;D :penguin:

In the words of two,  :D  identical lines from two scenes in an  :D Immortal,  favorite movie: "Because he MUST."  The movie is Blast From The Past. Interestingly, in the one scene the dad is explaining to his little boy, who has never seen a "game", why in baseball, a "player" on base has to run when his team makes a hit.  In the other scene, the boy is grown and actually "Watching" a softball game, when he gets it.  He actually exclaims (as many WILL,   :woohoo2:  about this :icon_e_surprised: Hoax):

                 " I get it!    I finally get it! You have
                 to see it to understand it!"    :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: 

Eerie.  :icon_neutral: 

Eh  :icon_redface:---prob'ly no connection at all...

But, he REALLY, seriously, must :icon_exclaim:

I'm not being silly. If MJ doesn't come back, at least to show his face and OWN it (because it doesn't matter what ya know---it's what you can PROVE  :icon_geek:  ), then it means that he doesn't care if he drops the ball and--- lays an egg on the World  :-[ stage   :affraid: during his Greatest Show on Earth, OR, it means some one or thing, more powerful  :icon_e_surprised:  than he, has prevented it, and ALL the crap we feared about his last days has, :icon_pale: gasp, come true.  :'(  Then, there is that his "come back" may mean something else than a return to Life As We Know It. But whatever, SOMEbody better come back and splain things, even if it is not the King of Pop, but only the guy who created him. He would have a captive audience, whether "he" "comes back" or not...
 
OR, it could happen---that key  :icon_albino: people  :elvis-1405:  who were helping him  :icon_twisted: steer it till the end   :moonwalk_: maybe have REALLY died  :icon_eek:, and he (the poor  :smiley_abuv: :icon_cry: shrinking violet :confused: :icon_e_confused: ) just can't do it by himself... (  :icon_arrow: as he ♪said♪ once).  :-\   



Baaahaha :icon_exclaim:   :TongueOutSmiley:   hahahaha  :icon_lol:  Don't beLIEve it!       


No worries! 8)

I think the only one preventing him from coming back is that ;) frightful puppet Master, cranking out more Hoax. Perhaps he's addicted to Hoaxing, now, and requires an intervention! Bad, Bad,   :michael_jackson-1135: Puppetmaster. :thjajaja121:

Or, seriously, maybe coming back before he's too old to cause a stir is more than he wants to involve his family in, any more, while the kids are still young. Maybe he WANTS nothing more than a respectful nod across the room from his geriatric fan base, 25 more years from now! And we don't REALLY know what costs he is weighing each new day. Things may have come into play with teenagers, which he had not realized years ago. If it really is "all for love", you know it is family which must come first. No contest.

But I really think he will "come back" because I believe he is doing things he set out to do, very purposefully, behind the scenes, with this Hoax, and there is no reason to think he won't reappear after this job is completed---maybe any day! If we hadn't seen or heard a peep about him, or anything which called him to mind at all in five years, I would have my doubts, but he has not lazily been hiding out, retired on some lonely beach, somewhere; there is always something, close to his heart in the works, which, idk HOW, feels to me (and others) as if he is involved somehow, even at the helm of it. I think he has just gone "underground" for a while, to make some change he was always singing about, and eventually, the greatest entertainer who ever lived WILL return for his lifetime achievement award, and some grandkids (which are even more fun than kids, I hear)! :bearhug:

 
Title: Re: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: kruszkova on June 03, 2014, 05:13:33 AM
I think Michael will not come back.
Why would he do it? If he still is he found a safe place what he wanted to. There is no paparazii, no television, no new lies. He is probably more happy than then.
I as his fan forgive him because he is only a man who want live normal and if he made it - i am so happy for him and i hope he won't come back.
Title: Re: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: curls on June 03, 2014, 10:56:49 AM
Why would he come back?  It all depends why he left in the first place, and whether he can achieve what he wants by remaining 'dead'. But we shouldn't assume that he's happy and living a 'normal' life just because he's 'dead', same as we shouldn't assume he was in danger and miserable when he was alive.  JMO
Title: Re: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on June 03, 2014, 11:20:51 AM
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Why would he come back?  It all depends why he left in the first place, and whether he can achieve what he wants by remaining 'dead'. But we shouldn't assume that he's happy and living a 'normal' life just because he's 'dead', same as we shouldn't assume he was in danger and miserable when he was alive.  JMO


I wouldn't be able to say it better than you Curls, thanks.

Michael Jackson will come back and I think he DOES need to come back to finish what he started on June 25 2009.
Title: Re: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: whatyourheartsays on June 03, 2014, 12:48:31 PM
The more i think about it, the less i think he will be back. I don't consider legal issues, or saving the world or fighting evil, prooving the media wrong or blablabla.

Michael did eveything, went everywhere, he went from the deepest despair to the highest joy, i don't see any reason he'd have to proove anything to anyone, or fight for some cause when he did that all his life.

From what i see now, it appears that if MJ is alive, he is fully able to run his business, enjoy his kids and spend his time on his art and passion. What we are given since 2009, music, art, entertainment, comes from him already ! Is there a NEED for him to be back ? i don't think so.

I also told myself that maybe he sold the whole "Michael Jackson" stuff to Sony (i still stick to my first theory about the biggest music industry deal EVER, including his last months, his death, and all albums to comes" because ACTUALLY, i think he didn't want to be MJ anymore. Maybe there was a plan for a come back, but maybe being dead offered him some freedom he never had and he maybe thought "after all, i might never be back, anyway, people already think i'm dead"

Maybe he let go about all this.
Title: Re: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: TypeONegative on June 03, 2014, 02:18:02 PM
I know for sure he's alive but it's sad to say it he probably wont be back because of the allegations I hope I'm wrong and mj is back this month I love his music,videos,messages and person he is I wanted to meet him since i was just 10 and if I had the chance now I would be at his show now. Forgive the grammer my HTC phone is acting up
Title: Re: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: blankie on June 03, 2014, 02:34:29 PM
I think the best way to continue this great adventure is not asking too many questions and stay here close to Michael.

I think he 'll be fine now ,  finally quiet and calmly he can decide what is the best for him.

He and we saw so many things in these five years,  also very bad  but nevertheless he continued to give us new music and new emotions.

Gave us new clues , so keep the faith.... We move forward !!

With L.O.V.E.  :moonwalk_:




Title: Re: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: TypeONegative on June 03, 2014, 04:32:39 PM
Very true I think it's just everyone here like me just wants to know he's ok and to watch him live, I do however understand this is up to Michael. Going to make a new post later about a great detail no one ever thought of about Dave Dave and this time its not his phone number again lol but I did however get shy and although not against the law I got over anxious about what to say to Dave so didn't call but I have his number still lol guess one day ill get the courage to call, anyhow I hope the weather is this nice out everywhere like in central ny take care everyone, and to those I see saying if Michael isn't really dead, not saying any names but just want to say you shouldn't loose faith in the hoax because so many new clues are rising and once you loose your beLIEver view on this you likley won't come back to keep us believers or knowers for that matter up to date on the hoax.  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: marumjj on June 03, 2014, 06:57:05 PM
First we have to know what were the reasons for this hoax.
If MJ really dead, there is "someone" who promote this possibility. This includes family. If so, it would be devastating to all of us know that his own family we deception.
I assume that MJ is alive, whether or not returns depends on the reasons that led to fake his death. We all know that there are many similarities with the hoax of Elvis, who never return.
My heart tells me that MJ will return! In fact, we feel its magic on every project since 2009.
Legal issues not think they are the reason why even no return. Everything was planned so that no damage (here I am not considering people who mourns his death), the facts show that it is all a show.
The media can not get fun, in fact many timidly, are taking this option as something possible.
Title: Re: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on June 04, 2014, 10:00:20 AM
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The more i think about it, the less i think he will be back. I don't consider legal issues, or saving the world or fighting evil, prooving the media wrong or blablabla.

Michael did eveything, went everywhere, he went from the deepest despair to the highest joy, i don't see any reason he'd have to proove anything to anyone, or fight for some cause when he did that all his life.

From what i see now, it appears that if MJ is alive, he is fully able to run his business, enjoy his kids and spend his time on his art and passion. What we are given since 2009, music, art, entertainment, comes from him already ! Is there a NEED for him to be back ? i don't think so.

I also told myself that maybe he sold the whole "Michael Jackson" stuff to Sony (i still stick to my first theory about the biggest music industry deal EVER, including his last months, his death, and all albums to comes" because ACTUALLY, i think he didn't want to be MJ anymore. Maybe there was a plan for a come back, but maybe being dead offered him some freedom he never had and he maybe thought "after all, i might never be back, anyway, people already think i'm dead"

Maybe he let go about all this.

OMG how wrong you are, sorry to say this but time will prove you WRONG. MJ doesn't wanna be MJ? excuse me? he is so self centered that if he weren't MJ anymore THEN he would die for real, lol, he won't be touring anymore but he will be MJ forever cause he likes to be who he is.
Title: Re: Why do you think MJ will come back?
Post by: whatyourheartsays on June 04, 2014, 03:13:46 PM
I was talking about being Michael Jackson, the BRAND. Of course he will always be himself. I just think he must have been 100% fed up with being what people/business expected from him. He is tied to this because this all business is about him, it has his name on it, and anywhere he goes, people see "Michael Jackson" the brand, not only the man.

Sorry i cannot actually explain, but i was just saying it felt like being prisoner of yourself, because  your "self" almost don't belong to you anymore. In this way, i said he maybe didn't want to be MJ anymore.

what would be wrong with that ? He said it many times : becoming anonymous includes "not being MJ". And he often said he's like to be anonymous, to run a normal life with his kids.

we were talking about reasons for not coming back.
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