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Title: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: Guest on January 27, 2011, 07:59:20 AM
Michael was seriously burned in a Pepsi Commerical. I personally think that someone from Michael's camp or Michael himself leaked the "real footage" of the accident to US Weekly. Michael was the only one with the tape of the accident in which he wanted people to see "What Pepsi Did To Him."
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: jill on January 27, 2011, 10:35:25 AM
That video was kept private for all those years and then released after Michael's "death".  I wonder if in the settlement he had with Pepsi if the he was required to keep the video out of the public eye?
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: Guest on January 27, 2011, 11:35:47 AM
In the settlement it probably stated that it could not be shown while he was "alive." I just think that this was all planned. Come on now, what Pepsi Exec or past employee would risk getting sued over this footage. It had to be Michael. This also leads to why US Weekly never named the source they got the video from.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: ignisaeternus on January 27, 2011, 11:49:07 AM
I am pretty sure it was released by Michael or at his instruction.

I'm still trying to work out, why exactly. I know that the severity of the accident was covered up obviously as part of a settlement. My question: and I'm sure you guys can help me, is why did Michael settle to begin with? Were there other things going on already at that time he did not agree with? Was this really an accident? My conspiracy minded brain has to wonder if this was a warning (a la: " you think you're so powerful, but look, we can get to you. And if we can get to you, your family is even more vulnerable...").
The release of the tapes always made me wonder. I know they (media) pointed out that this is when the use of pain meds started. But it seems to be the start of so much more.
So, any thoughts or extra enlightenment is appreciated. Thank you!
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: bec on January 27, 2011, 11:53:09 AM
He released those tapes because the "accident" was his first large scale hoax.

9282 days: http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.com/2 ... w-bizarre/ (http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.com/2010/03/30/how-bizarre/)

Playing with Fire, literally: http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.com/2 ... with-fire/ (http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.com/2010/05/31/playing-with-fire/)

Part 2: http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.com/2 ... et-burned/ (http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.com/2010/06/01/and-youre-gonna-get-burned/)
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: Guest on January 27, 2011, 11:56:49 AM
I dont think this was an accident, I think it was done on purpose. Noticed he was just standing there and the pyro went off. The director of pyrotechnics should be looked at or the one who actually set off the explosives. When using pyrotechnics for film, there has to be a cue or some type of signal due to safety precautions. In this case, somebody pressed the button too early on purpose. How come the other takes were perfectly fine (pyrotechnic wise), but the last take was kinda "lazy" lol.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: bec on January 27, 2011, 12:02:24 PM
Did you read the blog posts? There's very compelling evidence pointing to hoax. Don't be afraid to click!
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: Guest on January 27, 2011, 12:11:03 PM
I peeped it out. What struck me was when it was reported he was released early the next day. It doesnt make sense. If you have 3rd degree burns, there's no possible way you're going home the next day. You need time for treatment.

Also, the threee pics of michael - pre accident, pepsi accident, post- accident. Something doent seem right. I know reports say he attended the grammy's wearing a hair piece, but maybe he didnt get hurt at all.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on January 27, 2011, 12:32:46 PM
viewtopic.php?f=49&t=16882&p=288022#p287932 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=16882&p=288022#p287932)

Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"
[youtube:z4tx9oy1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cE3ZOVeCpM[/youtube:z4tx9oy1]
[youtube:z4tx9oy1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzUB_z3vOLk[/youtube:z4tx9oy1]Big Thank You to StargazerMJ11 for recording this and uploading. I watched all of it last night. I am not at all surprised at the information in this documentary. The under belly of Hollywood is very dirty, sick, and can make or break a person. That world will eat you alive. Danny is a perfect example of what happens to child stars if they allow the demons to take over.

Hollywood caters to two worlds: stardom and self desruction.

Hollywood requires a happy ending according to a script.  Jackson died in Hollywood but, was also created and destroyed in Hollywood. That is a very powerful statement. Michael Jackson was a created persona. An image from the factory.

Mickey Fine pharmacy with the diner in front was amazing to see. I didn't know they get down like that.  :shock:

It doesn't surprise me that during Michael's solo career (when he was younger) he had so many handlers aka advisors. The interview with Michael and DiLeo during Bad era... a little disturbing how huge DiLeo looks and how small Michael looks. The way he took over and spoke for him, that is control at the highest level.

He had so many people catering to him because he was their cash cow. It makes perfect sense that no one would turn him down. It makes perfect sense he was a perfect Hollywood client with A-list services thrown at him. Anything the dancing, singing, puppet wants. <<No one get upset over what I just said, that is how TPTB look at stars in Hollywood.

If he becomes noncompliant and appears to be breaking free, send a warning, Pepsi Burn. Really listen to what Brian says about that incident. Really listen to how Brian says it was a Life defining experience, that altered his very SOUL. It was NOT a hoax created by Michael. It was a warning from TPTB.

There was some new disturbing info. The nurse of the Dr. who worked on Michael's scalp after the Pepsi burn, the accusations she said about what the Dr. did to Michael during surgery. Faking some of the surgeries. Why? To charge him extreme amounts of money but, never really perform the service? I am very angry at the way Michael was taken advantage of. I am also very happy he turned the tables, broke free, and is now getting even.

Who do you trust in Hollywood? No one. There is a Judas in every crowd.

Everyone wants a piece of Michael. He told Brian "I only hire the people who steal from me the least." Wow that is messed up that he would have to actually say something like that. He can only hire the vampires who steal the least from him.

After I watched this and heard about how Michael purged his advisors with no known reason. Well think about who was around him before his death...the same people who were dismissed before. That is what I call keep your friends close but your enemies closer. What a perfect way to cast light upon the greedy snakes who hurt him in his past. The only way those who did him dirty in the past will be noticed is if he brought them back into the limelight around him: the main attraction. Not only Frank; all of em. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_DiLeo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_DiLeo)
Quote
DiLeo managed Jackson until February 14, 1989 when their business relationship was abruptly terminated, without any public explanation.
In 2009, The Wall Street Journal reported that DiLeo was once again managing Michael Jackson's career.
All of the past is now colliding with the present and future.

Peace[/b]
viewtopic.php?f=145&t=16940&p=288897#p288897 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=145&t=16940&p=288897#p288897)

Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"
This is in it's simplest forms a message of Michael (Jackson's) vendetta(s).

TIAI Redirect 12/31 viewtopic.php?f=72&t=16890 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=16890)
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
[youtube:z4tx9oy1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYKIR_0XgAc[/youtube:z4tx9oy1]
At the 4 min and some second mark The Dave Dave um I mean Michael interview with Larry King "The thing is what people fail to realize he was a Human." Then next when Evey asks V what happened and V says "There was a fire along time ago." (PEPSI BURN) "Ancient history for some."

 But, not for V or Michael. That is very easy to understand wanting a lil payback for the shit people did.
After a few days of the redirect staying on Michael Jackson's Vendetta vid, the redirect goes to (up first in line for a can of whoop ass) is Oprah and her real agenda of running those shows that way. Remember there are no co-incedences in this damn rabbit hole of a "hoax" lol
Quote from: "~Souza~"
http://www.tmz.com/2010/11/03/oprah-michael-jackson-fans-kids-interview-katherine-paris-blankey-prince-molestation-episode/

MJ Fans: Oprah's Molestation Show Is No 'Coincidence'
11/3/2010 4:30 PM PDT by TMZ Staff  

An official MJ fan group ain't buying Oprah's "purely coincidental" excuse -- telling us, they are "angry and disappointed" that she's airing her interview with MJ's kids days after a special on child molestation.

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/11/03/1103-michael-jackson-oprah-winfrey-tmz-ex.jpg)

A rep for the Official Michael Jackson Fans of Southern California tells TMZ, “We are both angry and disappointed in Oprah’s constant need to reference child molestation shows prior to airing Michael Jackson related episodes.  Her tone seems to speak volumes.”

Oprah called the whole thing "purely coincidental" ... but MJ fans aren't convinced. The rep adds, “How can something so obvious be a coincidence?"

As we previously reported, Oprah's big interview with Michael Jackson's children is scheduled to air next Monday -- three days after Friday's big show ... entitled "200 Adult Men Who Were Molested Come Forward."
The video from the 12/31 redirect did have Michael's kids in it. It also showed them in V masks. The video had his kids from when they were on this show that TS just redirected to. Hmmm

Peace
It seems that some people (I am not just referring to bec) but anyone who sees the fire as a hoax theory in my opinion views it as it is more easily acceptable to them than the alternative explanation of it being a warning.

If you go with that theory than you should take away the idea of the Illuminati and TPTB that exist and do have alot of control in this world. They certainly had alot of control over Michael when he was younger, they had control over his career at that time.

They had the power to destroy him completely if he did not comply. I take huge issue with the idea of this being a hoax.

Opposing views are necessary and certainly bec is entitled to her theories and opinions.

Peace
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: ignisaeternus on January 27, 2011, 12:43:55 PM
So, as with everything else, we have different theories here?  Wonderful- more to dig into.   :D LOVE IT!

I knew if I asked you guys would be great in bringing forward ideas and data.  I am at work, so I can't watch the clips right now (I really need to work every now and then, even though this investigative hoax obsession is much more thrilling)- but I am sure I will tonight.

I never thought of the fire as being a hoax- hm...interesting.  To me, it fit more into the NWO angle as Im_convincedmjisalive pointed out, but I will DEFINITLY check it out. I am sure I will be back with more questions- thanks for bearing with me.

I have seen the V clip before and it really brought it home again to me that the fire ties in with everything else that might be going on (justice, vendetta, exposure of TPTB).

I agree- different viewpoints are so valuable and stimulating.  And, Michael being as complex as we know him to be, and everything here happeneing on different levels, maybe these different points add up to yet another complex whole.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: finfin on January 27, 2011, 03:16:12 PM
http://www.luxist.com/2011/01/27/michae ... -for-sale/ (http://www.luxist.com/2011/01/27/michael-jacksons-burnt-hair-goes-up-for-sale/)

Michael Jackson's Burnt Hair Goes Up For Sale| by Deidre Woollard (RSS feed)
Jan 27th 2011 at 12:01AM

It's been 27 years since the fateful day when Michael Jackson was burned while filming a Pepsi commercial. On January 27, 1984, Michael and other members of the Jacksons were filming a commercial for Pepsi at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles when, during a concert scene, explosive pyrotechnics accidentally set Jackson's hair on fire (video is after the jump). Jackson suffered serious burns to his scalp and he never fully recovered from this injury. It is said to have led to his addiction to painkillers. Jackson received a $1.5 million settlement which he donated to the Brotman Medical Center which had treated him after his injury.

A Small Piece of History is selling hair from this sad moment. Executive producer for the Pepsi commercial, Ralph Cohen, was among the first to reach Jackson when his head was burning and he threw his jacket over Jackson's head to help extinguish the flames. The lots feature hair that measures just 1/16 of an inch and is on a display card. There are limited, multiple lots available and purchasers can request lengths to suit. Lots sell for £149.99.

Michael Jackson collectibles have risen greatly in value since his death. Last year, a sequined glove worn during the Victory Tour sold for $160,000.



                      (http://www.blogcdn.com/www.luxist.com/media/2011/01/gyi0058059927.jpg)
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: MJonmind on January 27, 2011, 05:09:12 PM
Quote from: "bec"
He released those tapes because the "accident" was his first large scale hoax.

9282 days: http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.com/2 ... w-bizarre/ (http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.com/2010/03/30/how-bizarre/)

Playing with Fire, literally: http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.com/2 ... with-fire/ (http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.com/2010/05/31/playing-with-fire/)

Part 2: http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.com/2 ... et-burned/ (http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.com/2010/06/01/and-youre-gonna-get-burned/)
I'm with you on that 100%. It's the only answer that satisfies all questions. MJ had long been interesting in magic performers. Here's video on eating fire which is a pretty old trick for masters which I'm sure MJ talked to magicians he encountered while young. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0D6yjFk6mY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0D6yjFk6mY)  Remember the video of him talking by the Encino fountain about putting magic into everything he did which had to have been filmed before the Pepsi incident. Plus beforehand he gave copies of P.T. Barnum's book, to all his staff, as a very important book. The post by TS of "With God all things are possible." is so pertinent to this as well.

I was just playing with the numbers of Jan. 27, the 27th year anniversary.
27 + 27 = 999 + 999 = 1998 (remember this year and MJ sig in the hat?)= 27 = 999 or 2 + 7 = 9
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 27, 2011, 05:13:03 PM
I don't think it was a hoax either. What did cross my mind, was that he knew what they were planning to do with him and he took precautions. Maybe that is why he got released out of the hospital again. Also a possibility is that the burns weren't 3rd degree at all, but that that was put out there to get back at Pepsi. The doc might have supported the story, because Mike spent the money well. And maybe he just heals quick, or his double appeared for him. But I do think the Pepsi burn was a warning because he got too vocal. The 9282 days is because in my opinion he simply faked his birthday after the Pepsi burn to fit into the hoax.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: paula-c on January 27, 2011, 05:57:55 PM
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bec » wrote:

Did you read the blog posts? There's very compelling evidence pointing to hoax. Don't be afraid to click!

I have no fear, i believe that i have no words, each day this man i am surprised more
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: ignisaeternus on January 27, 2011, 08:46:08 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
I don't think it was a hoax either. What did cross my mind, was that he knew what they were planning to do with him and he took precautions. Maybe that is why he got released out of the hospital again. Also a possibility is that the burns weren't 3rd degree at all, but that that was put out there to get back at Pepsi. The doc might have supported the story, because Mike spent the money well. And maybe he just heals quick, or his double appeared for him. But I do think the Pepsi burn was a warning because he got too vocal. The 9282 days is because in my opinion he simply faked his birthday after the Pepsi burn to fit into the hoax.
Which is what I think happened this time, too...(he knew their plan and took precautions).
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: bec on January 27, 2011, 10:32:19 PM
Also interesting that the song performed for that commercial was Billy Jean. The lie becomes the truth and MJ disappears from the bed. Homeless guy sleeping in the street morphs into wearing a white suit.

Thriller was released as a single 4 days prior on the 23rd.

This topic, with the 9282 days thing, in my opinion, is one of the most relevant, and least discussed pieces of evidence in this entire hoax.

It's huge. It has the potential to turn non-believers on to the hoax in about 10 seconds flat. It breaks through short attention spans and shuts up skeptics. We could use it to sway our nay-sayers very easily. It's real tough to explain away the 9282 days thing as "just a coincidence".
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: Andrea on January 27, 2011, 10:37:25 PM
Quote from: "bec"
It's real tough to explain away the 9282 days thing as "just a coincidence".

Agreed.  I was explaining this phenomenon to someone a few weeks ago and I could almost literally see the wheels turning in his head.  His response was "Seriously?!? That's...weird."
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: bec on January 27, 2011, 10:55:32 PM
Quote from: "Andrea"
Quote from: "bec"
It's real tough to explain away the 9282 days thing as "just a coincidence".

Agreed.  I was explaining this phenomenon to someone a few weeks ago and I could almost literally see the wheels turning in his head.  His response was "Seriously?!? That's...weird."

I've done the same. It stops everyone in their tracks.

It's absolutely 100% dead accurate too. No funny math or making it work. It's solid. 9282 days of MJ's life occur, including the (alleged) day of his birth as day one. Pepsi incident on 1/27/1984 was the 9283rd day of Mj's life, or day one of the second half. 9282 days later, on the (9282+9282=)18,564th day of his life, he "died".

August 29, 1958=Day 1 (alleged birth)
August 30, 1958=Day 2
August 31, 1958=Day 3
...etc
January 26, 1984=Day 9282 aka end of first half of life <------------------------------------------------
January 27, 1984=Day 9283 (Pepsi incident) aka Day 1 second half of life
January 28, 1984=Day 9284 aka Day 2
...etc
June 25, 2009=Day 18,564 ("death") aka Day 9282 "end" of second half of life

Now what would be the bomb is if we could find out what time of day the incident occurred on 1/27/1984.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: msteetee34 on January 28, 2011, 03:34:28 AM
It is kinda weird that the commercial was leaked right after June 25th.  It's weird just like all the other stuff that just happen to come out after that day like the fake coroner video that got everyone talking.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: friendlikeme81 on January 28, 2011, 07:22:28 AM
Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "Andrea"
Quote from: "bec"
It's real tough to explain away the 9282 days thing as "just a coincidence".

Agreed.  I was explaining this phenomenon to someone a few weeks ago and I could almost literally see the wheels turning in his head.  His response was "Seriously?!? That's...weird."

I've done the same. It stops everyone in their tracks.

It's absolutely 100% dead accurate too. No funny math or making it work. It's solid. 9282 days of MJ's life occur, including the (alleged) day of his birth as day one. Pepsi incident on 1/27/1984 was the 9283rd day of Mj's life, or day one of the second half. 9282 days later, on the (9282+9282=)18,564th day of his life, he "died".

August 29, 1958=Day 1 (alleged birth)
August 30, 1958=Day 2
August 31, 1958=Day 3
...etc
January 26, 1984=Day 9282 aka end of first half of life <------------------------------------------------
January 27, 1984=Day 9283 (Pepsi incident) aka Day 1 second half of life
January 28, 1984=Day 9284 aka Day 2
...etc
June 25, 2009=Day 18,564 ("death") aka Day 9282 "end" of second half of life

Now what would be the bomb is if we could find out what time of day the incident occurred on 1/27/1984.

Even my pupils realized that these are no coincidences, one girl said it looks as if Michael's life was built with a construction set. The kids are still young (10/11 years old), but they absolutely get the logic.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: friendlikeme81 on January 28, 2011, 07:48:05 AM
There is something else (I don't remember if I posted it on this forum already):

My theory is that the sunflower-hat guy we saw in "This is it" was not only a reference to Michael's favourite flower (as it is said), but was primarily meant to represent Michael with his hair on fire as a (initial) part of the THRILLER he played out in the (exact) second half of his life.

[attachment=0:223crzx0]burning heads.jpg[/attachment:223crzx0]

Oh, I didn't see it earlier, but now it gets clear to me:
The Werther-ghost with the sunflower-hat shoots with his gun to symbolize the smoke of the fire from the burning hair. A clear reference if you ask me.

What a GENIUS, this MAN.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: Guest on January 29, 2011, 07:00:12 PM
Quote from: Guest
I peeped it out. What struck me was when it was reported he was released early the next day. It doesnt make sense. If you have 3rd degree burns, there's no possible way you're going home the next day. You need time for treatment.

Also, the threee pics of michael - pre accident, pepsi accident, post- accident. Something doent seem right. I know reports say he attended the grammy's wearing a hair piece, but maybe he didnt get hurt at all.
To me Michael hair looks different. In the Pepsi commercial, looking at him from behind, his hair does not look like he has a curl, but kind of like an afro. But when you look at the him from the front with his brothers, his hair doesn't look like that. Am I wrong about this?
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: Guest on January 31, 2011, 04:44:26 PM
Do you think that they possible ignited his hair on purpose for the cameras. When they did the first take, he turned around and looked at the camera, then the pyro went off. Then he descended down the stairs. With the last take, he just stood there and for no reason it went off. Michael nor did the rest of the crew stop the take becuz of the bad timing. I know that unexpected pyrotechnics going off would at least make me flinch or jump. Michael never did none of that. My theory from all of this, is that they couldve put a wig on top of mj and ignited it just so that he can go down the staircase. by the time he would come down the crew would extinguish the "flame." His hair was wet and curly, then it went from dry and afro like with a bald patch on the center of his head.

Also I remember him stating that he stayed up late at night watching Close Encounters of the third kind. They had to force him to sleep with sleeping pills. How was he released early the next day, with no time for the treatment to kick in? Sleeping pills usually work for 6-8 hours. How could he do all that, take pictures with the staff, etc, within a short time for early release
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: Guest on February 01, 2011, 09:16:43 AM
Source: http://www.theinsider.com/news/2532980_ ... _Speak_Out (http://www.theinsider.com/news/2532980_Video_Fire_Officials_from_Michael_Jackson_s_Pepsi_Shoot_Speak_Out)


Capt. Jerry Thomas was the assigned fire marshal present on the set of the now-infamous commercial shoot, and he describes what went wrong:

"The last scene that he got injured, Michael stood and posed near the special effects materials and when he did that, he sustained the injuries and the special effects materials ignited his hair."

Thomas says that Jackson "circumvented" the fire officials' instructions because of new instructions given to him by the commercial's director.


IDK how to upload pics on here, but notice how his jeri curl is on his far left past his eye: http://www.hollywoodcelebgossips.com/wp ... cident.png (http://www.hollywoodcelebgossips.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/michael-jackson-bald-after-1984-pepsi-commercial-hair-on-fire-accident.png)

look at his hair now: http://scandal.exilez.com/wp-content/up ... i-fire.jpg (http://scandal.exilez.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/jackson-pepsi-fire.jpg)

http://www2.tbo.com/exposure/full/2009/ ... ackson.jpg (http://www2.tbo.com/exposure/full/2009/07/16/6901_michael-jackson.jpg)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5zKqPAfpgqo/S ... ackson.jpg (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5zKqPAfpgqo/S7f1l-4pPdI/AAAAAAAAABY/aqxuVS9dqWE/s1600/jackson.jpg)
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: Guest on February 01, 2011, 09:21:31 AM
My bad yall. Here's the pic: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_x6YgwNe_SME/S ... cident.JPG (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_x6YgwNe_SME/Sl9Nlb_-LiI/AAAAAAAADSY/olg8d5NndMg/s400/Jackson+Pepsi+accident.JPG)
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: Guest on February 02, 2011, 05:57:37 PM
Quote from: snoozycha
My bad yall. Here's the pic: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_x6YgwNe_SME/S ... cident.JPG (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_x6YgwNe_SME/Sl9Nlb_-LiI/AAAAAAAADSY/olg8d5NndMg/s400/Jackson+Pepsi+accident.JPG)


The different texture of hair makes no sense. How can the hair look dry and afro-like to curls.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: RunFaYaLife on February 02, 2011, 06:01:55 PM
Uh Because he was wearing an afro when that happened.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: Guest on February 02, 2011, 06:44:19 PM
Quote from: RunFaYaLife
Uh Because he was wearing an afro when that happened.

So the night of the accident, he was wearing an afro, his hair caught fire accidently, goes to the hospital for one night and leaves the next day with curls. Can someone do a side by side comparison of the pictures please.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: RunFaYaLife on February 02, 2011, 07:21:18 PM
Everything that happened in his life was NOT a conspiracy.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: bec on February 12, 2011, 01:37:07 PM
Quote from: "RunFaYaLife"
Everything that happened in his life was NOT a conspiracy.

This topic isn't about everything. It's about the Pepsi incident. And we aren't suggesting it's a conspiracy. I am suggesting it was a hoax. And I think the facts clearly support this theory. I'm sorry you are not ready to accept this possibility.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: Guest on February 17, 2011, 02:30:16 PM
Quote from: bec
Quote from: RunFaYaLife
Everything that happened in his life was NOT a conspiracy.

This topic isn't about everything. It's about the Pepsi incident. And we aren't suggesting it's a conspiracy. I am suggesting it was a hoax. And I think the facts clearly support this theory. I'm sorry you are not ready to accept this possibility.

Thanks Bec, that's the point I thought I was making with my response about the hair. I do think it's strange all that happened and yet he makes an appearance at an awards show. I believe MJ is alive and I've always been a believer. God Bless.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: Guest on February 17, 2011, 04:44:25 PM
Quote from: "Guest 2"
Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "RunFaYaLife"
Everything that happened in his life was NOT a conspiracy.

This topic isn't about everything. It's about the Pepsi incident. And we aren't suggesting it's a conspiracy. I am suggesting it was a hoax. And I think the facts clearly support this theory. I'm sorry you are not ready to accept this possibility.

Thanks Bec, that's the point I thought I was making with my response about the hair. I do think it's strange all that happened and yet he makes an appearance at an awards show. I believe MJ is alive and I've always been a believer. God Bless.
Because he had too, its called business :roll:
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: bec on February 17, 2011, 11:53:25 PM
Quote from: "imred"
Quote from: "Guest 2"
Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "RunFaYaLife"
Everything that happened in his life was NOT a conspiracy.

This topic isn't about everything. It's about the Pepsi incident. And we aren't suggesting it's a conspiracy. I am suggesting it was a hoax. And I think the facts clearly support this theory. I'm sorry you are not ready to accept this possibility.

Thanks Bec, that's the point I thought I was making with my response about the hair. I do think it's strange all that happened and yet he makes an appearance at an awards show. I believe MJ is alive and I've always been a believer. God Bless.
Because he had too, its called business :roll:

The evidence is his appearance at the appearance not the appearance itself.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: Guest on February 18, 2011, 03:56:33 PM
Quote from: bec
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Quote from: bec
Quote from: RunFaYaLife
Everything that happened in his life was NOT a conspiracy.

This topic isn't about everything. It's about the Pepsi incident. And we aren't suggesting it's a conspiracy. I am suggesting it was a hoax. And I think the facts clearly support this theory. I'm sorry you are not ready to accept this possibility.

Thanks Bec, that's the point I thought I was making with my response about the hair. I do think it's strange all that happened and yet he makes an appearance at an awards show. I believe MJ is alive and I've always been a believer. God Bless.
Because he had too, its called business :roll:

The evidence is his appearance at the appearance not the appearance itself.

That's right. Because he appeared at the show after receiving that serious burn to his scalp. The pain would have been unbearable. It wasn't all about money with MJ all the time.  He gave a lot of money to different charities.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on February 18, 2011, 04:56:03 PM
Quote from: "snoozycha"
Michael was seriously burned in a Pepsi Commerical. I personally think that someone from Michael's camp or Michael himself leaked the "real footage" of the accident to US Weekly. Michael was the only one with the tape of the accident in which he wanted people to see "What Pepsi Did To Him."

"What Pepsi Did To Him"

I agree! If the pepsi accident was real, and wasn't a hoax, I think they may have done it on purpose, to try and "destroy" Michael. In MJ's book, Moonwalk, Michael explains how close he was to death from the fire. And look at this excerpt from MJ's book:

Quote from: "Moonwalk"
I still remember how scared those Pepsi executives looked the night of the fire. They thought that my getting burned would leave a bad taste in the mouth of every kid in America who drank Pepsi. They knew I could have sued them, and I could have, but I was real nice about it. Real nice.

They way he emphasizes how nice he was about it, strikes me as odd. Surely, if it was an accident, you wouldn't have to feel like you were too nice for not suing them, but if it was done on purpose, however...
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: Guest on February 18, 2011, 05:16:26 PM
I completely agree that it was a hoax.
 It is so clear ...
 The only copy we had was of Michael, and only a few days is thrown and nobody knows where it comes ... it's so obvious ..
 It is also a way to start with everything that was taking antidepressants for the burn bla,bla
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: RunFaYaLife on February 19, 2011, 02:02:50 AM
I guess you were too young to remember him being taken out in a stretcher on the news.
IMO
No way was that Pepsi commercial a hoax....he continued after he recovered to
make more Pepsi commercials....as well as tour and sing and perform.
It was also stated that he suffered 2nd and 3rd degree burns...which isn't exactly a walk in the park...at first he refused pain meds because of his religious beliefs.
I'm sure after a few excruciating hours he relented happily...I might add.
A burn like he received is verra painful.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: MJonmind on February 19, 2011, 02:30:13 AM
Quote from: "Rachel2011"
I completely agree that it was a hoax.
 It is so clear ...
 The only copy we had was of Michael, and only a few days is thrown and nobody knows where it comes ... it's so obvious ..
 It is also a way to start with everything that was taking antidepressants for the burn bla,bla
I agree. It basically kick-started the grand  25+ year hoax into position. The beginning of the death illusion series. Being addicted to drugs is a major ingredient. Then Kenny says that MJ was excited about the illusion starting the next day on June 25, which was the incredible 9282 days later.
Billie Jean, sung at the Pepsi commercial and Dirty Diana in TII are related in that they are both about MJ and a seductive woman. In the TII the Dirty Diana bed has a red sheet billowing flame with simulated pirotechnics around it, just as in the Pepsi commercial, relating to two events. Also in the pic of his red burned scalp showing, it looks raised as if it a cap over his own hair. I think he was wearing a special wig that would burn but protect his own hair. When he walks down the stairs with his hair on fire, I think his reaction to burning pain is too slow to what it would be in reality. And why on earth would he do a showman dance spin to put it out. If it was real he would slap his hands on his head to beat it out or drop to the ground to roll it out. Spinning would only fan the flames.[attachment=2:girxskbw]Pep burn.jpg[/attachment:girxskbw][attachment=1:girxskbw]Pep burn.jpg[/attachment:girxskbw][attachment=0:girxskbw]TII dirty diana.jpg[/attachment:girxskbw]
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Even my pupils realized that these are no coincidences, one girl said it looks as if Michael's life was built with a construction set. The kids are still young (10/11 years old), but they absolutely get the logic.
A well-planned complete beautiful piece of architecture.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 19, 2011, 02:35:26 AM
I still don't see this as a hoax, but as a warning to him. Maybe he knew they would try and took precautions, maybe he healed quick, or maybe a double went in his place because he was still recovering. I don't know but I really don't see a hoax here.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: Guest on February 19, 2011, 02:47:36 PM
Or maybe it was a accident, in addition, it was accident! No conspiracy guys and i dont buy it!
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: Guest on March 10, 2011, 01:21:16 PM
I still think it's a hoax. If not, then Michael had something to do with the releasing of the accident footage. Who else would've had the tape? Pepsi Executives, Bob Giraldi, or maybe somebody released it hoping to get $ out of the situation.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: Guest on March 10, 2011, 07:51:54 PM
Quote from: junebug22
I still think it's a hoax. If not, then Michael had something to do with the releasing of the accident footage. Who else would've had the tape? Pepsi Executives, Bob Giraldi, or maybe somebody released it hoping to get $ out of the situation.

I think it's possible that Michael could have released the footage. With him hoaxing his death and people believing that he died, who would think it was him that released it? I feel that Michael is alive and he has his time pick as to when he will reappear.  I don't think it will be here because of all the negative remarks he endured from the press. Every positive thing he ever done was not mentioned by them. Funny how they all say good things about him now. That' s why I think when he does come back, it will not be here. Sorry I got off topic, but it just irritates me.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: MJhasSpoken on March 10, 2011, 10:03:16 PM
But what about in the many years after the burn you could see the sides of his hair had burns.
(http://www.mj-upbeat.com/images/art.jackson.eightyfour.gi.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IpNOdFZhAd8/Sp4H5dFmKDI/AAAAAAAAAGQ/_wFsqdhbdUE/s400/MJ+hair+cut+becos+of+fire+accident.jpg)
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 10, 2011, 10:24:31 PM
Quote from: "MJhasSpoken"
But what about in the many years after the burn you could see the sides of his hair had burns.
(http://www.mj-upbeat.com/images/art.jackson.eightyfour.gi.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IpNOdFZhAd8/Sp4H5dFmKDI/AAAAAAAAAGQ/_wFsqdhbdUE/s400/MJ+hair+cut+becos+of+fire+accident.jpg)

I don't think those are from the burns, I think it was due to the Lupus. Looked kinda good on him though. The burn was on the top/back of his head, not the side.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: MJhasSpoken on March 10, 2011, 11:44:45 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "MJhasSpoken"
But what about in the many years after the burn you could see the sides of his hair had burns.
(http://www.mj-upbeat.com/images/art.jackson.eightyfour.gi.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IpNOdFZhAd8/Sp4H5dFmKDI/AAAAAAAAAGQ/_wFsqdhbdUE/s400/MJ+hair+cut+becos+of+fire+accident.jpg)

I don't think those are from the burns, I think it was due to the Lupus. Looked kinda good on him though. The burn was on the top/back of his head, not the side.

Sorry my mistake. But yes it did look good on him.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: Guest on March 11, 2011, 11:39:28 AM
How did Lupus affect his hair throughout the years?
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 11, 2011, 02:06:49 PM
Quote from: "junebug22"
How did Lupus affect his hair throughout the years?
Lupus can cause hair loss.
Title: Re: 27 Years Ago Today - January 27, 1984
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on March 11, 2011, 04:28:48 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "MJhasSpoken"
But what about in the many years after the burn you could see the sides of his hair had burns.
(http://www.mj-upbeat.com/images/art.jackson.eightyfour.gi.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IpNOdFZhAd8/Sp4H5dFmKDI/AAAAAAAAAGQ/_wFsqdhbdUE/s400/MJ+hair+cut+becos+of+fire+accident.jpg)

I don't think those are from the burns, I think it was due to the Lupus. Looked kinda good on him though. The burn was on the top/back of his head, not the side.

I agree with Souza, he also had that in the 90s. I liked it, though.
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