Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

General Discussion => General Discussion => Conspiracy Theories => Topic started by: Sternschen87 on April 26, 2010, 04:06:41 AM

Title: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: Sternschen87 on April 26, 2010, 04:06:41 AM
Very interesting.....  and scary.... :?

Did they really replace Paul to go on with the Beatles and to make money???


[youtube:3p1b7s1r]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkkOz1ZwXPc&feature=related[/youtube:3p1b7s1r]
[youtube:3p1b7s1r]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFxvTqTCltQ&feature=related[/youtube:3p1b7s1r]
[youtube:3p1b7s1r]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rT2b6vxIks&feature=related[/youtube:3p1b7s1r]
[youtube:3p1b7s1r]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5w7h_ZzmAk&feature=related[/youtube:3p1b7s1r][youtube:3p1b7s1r]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INtf09OhlSY&feature=related[/youtube:3p1b7s1r]
[youtube:3p1b7s1r]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6gHIXJSyF0&feature=related[/youtube:3p1b7s1r]
[youtube:3p1b7s1r]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5TT-WMQLwE&feature=related[/youtube:3p1b7s1r]
[youtube:3p1b7s1r]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G42fsCE-BLQ&feature=related[/youtube:3p1b7s1r]
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: mjjveritas on April 26, 2010, 09:24:06 AM
Sternschen87, Thanks for the videos. I find this subject fascinating regarding Paul McCartney and whether he is a double or not. I think not. I found this site which supports my view. Especially interesting are the pictures of PM's iris patterns. They are all the proof I need. Change the eye color with lenses but the iris pattern will remain the same. That's why biometric technology is coming to the forefront in identification because it's the best test to rely on (apart from DNA). http://www.paulisnotdead.com/ Thank you and credit to poster "jykazu" for the site.
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: jacilovesmichael on April 26, 2010, 10:33:09 AM
Wow! This is so interesting.

Something I noticed - they said that mind-control victims often start to become aware of their programming around the age of 30. If Michael was a victim, that age would make sense for him, wouldn't it? That would have been his age around the BAD/Dangerous era.

This is crazy. So many things make much more sense when you take these things into consideration. Britney Spears especially.

I like also that the guy mentions 02 Dude. I never even thought about the voice thing. There is probably some kind of way to make the doubles actually speak like the person.
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on April 26, 2010, 11:03:16 AM
WHO IS Paul McCartney of today? he spoke at Amercan Idle, when they had to sing the beatle songs.. This singer is alive and well. He was married for so long with sweetheart wife Linda.. This does not make sense.
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: jacilovesmichael on April 26, 2010, 11:10:22 AM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
WHO IS Paul McCartney of today? he spoke at Amercan Idle, when they had to sing the beatle songs.. This singer is alive and well. He was married for so long with sweetheart wife Linda.. This does not make sense.

You need to watch these videos. Many believe the real Paul died and was replaced with a double. The double would be the "Paul" we know today.
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on April 26, 2010, 02:06:12 PM
Wow.....I watched all the vids........amazing stuff.

According to Rosanne Barr, Joe Jackson in an MK Ultra Operative? WHAT IN THE F*CK?????
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: jacilovesmichael on April 26, 2010, 02:16:24 PM
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
Wow.....I watched all the vids........amazing stuff.

According to Rosanne Barr, Joe Jackson in an MK Ultra Operative? WHAT IN THE F*CK?????

That's pretty much what I said too. Although, I can't say it really surprised me all that much.

Think about all the things Michael said about his father over the years. He seemed to really love and hate him at the same time. His father's presence made him vomit and faint. Yet he "loved" his father and "wished to understand him".

I think it's clear that Michael was a victim of some kind of mind control. I think it would make a whole lot of sense that his father was involved.
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on April 26, 2010, 02:30:16 PM
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
Wow.....I watched all the vids........amazing stuff.

According to Rosanne Barr, Joe Jackson in an MK Ultra Operative? WHAT IN THE F*CK?????

That's pretty much what I said too. Although, I can't say it really surprised me all that much.

Think about all the things Michael said about his father over the years. He seemed to really love and hate him at the same time. His father's presence made him vomit and faint. Yet he "loved" his father and "wished to understand him".

I think it's clear that Michael was a victim of some kind of mind control. I think it would make a whole lot of sense that his father was involved.


Yes, but who woulda thought? My mind is blown completely. When they showed that Rosanne thing, I literally stopped breathing.
I have no words....Im so friggin shocked.


Maybe thats why Joe didnt know ANYTHING when people asked him where MJ's body was...he said he didnt know....OMG......Im gonna end up in a home.
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on April 26, 2010, 02:32:16 PM
Secondly...why JOE JACKSON of all people.....no offense but he was a "nobody". They wouldnt have an interest in him. Unless they enlisted him AFTER  J5 got famous.
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: hesouttamylife on April 26, 2010, 02:32:39 PM
I believe that Joe is.  They are basically greedy and very driven.  When The Jackson 5 were starting out, Joe was all about the money and being the best to get out of their old neighborhood.  I do believe that he was of the mindset that what ever it takes, it is going to be done.  Michael hated his father so much for a reason, and I am convinced it goes beyond his beatings at home.  The rest of the boys were beaten also, but Michael was his golden boy.  I believe it was his job to make Michel feel ugly, to push him until he broke so that he would fall in line with what ever they were grooming him to be.  When Michael says he was the dance, I believe it is more than just a literal statement.  People who go through the MK Ultra mind control programs sometimes have to break off into someone or something else to be able to deal with the reality of what is happening to them.  I cringe to think what Michael went through.  There were 2 Michaels; a public Michael on stage and a very different Michael in private.  They don't even look, move, or act the same. He seems to be another person. I believe when Michael was given the signal to perform, he became a totally different person.  He did some things to his body in performances that were super human and would have been very, very painful to anyone else.  Can you imagine spinning around and falling down on your knees without a flinch?  Michael did it.  It's the damn greatest thing I've ever seen.  Unbelievable.
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: hesouttamylife on April 26, 2010, 02:34:16 PM
In addition to the above, I forgot to add that Joe Jackson shows no emotion towards Michael and that is freaking eerie.  He has none.  Michael was his million dollar baby, and that was that.
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: Grazzia on April 26, 2010, 02:58:56 PM
omg this and the CIA things blowed my mind this couple of days :O

i feel so ignorant suddenly  :?  :?
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on April 26, 2010, 03:08:26 PM
Quote from: "Grazzia"
omg this and the CIA things blowed my mind this couple of days :O

i feel so ignorant suddenly  :?  :?


Me too.
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: mumof3 on April 26, 2010, 05:10:36 PM
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
In addition to the above, I forgot to add that Joe Jackson shows no emotion towards Michael and that is freaking eerie.  He has none.  Michael was his million dollar baby, and that was that.
what you have just said is what i see and it sends chills to me how can you talk like that when your wonderfull son has died suddenly I know everybody is different but come on how can you be like that when my mum died young i was a zombie for months and i knew it was comming and even now 13 years later i find it hard to talk about her death.
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: Sternschen87 on April 26, 2010, 06:14:14 PM
for me the evidence is the height..... How can somebody grow between some months?!?!
You can see it clearly in the comparison with the foto attached..

This is too scary for me....
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: simplyme on April 26, 2010, 08:37:10 PM
Paul is Paul.  I don't think you all are old enought to remember, but he's not a double.  People back in the day [not me] even played records backwards just like all the hoaxers do now over Michael.  Paul is Paul.  He hooked up with Linda very young and they were married forever.  He almost as cocky now as he ever was.  I can see why he and John had problems.
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: jacilovesmichael on April 26, 2010, 09:42:00 PM
Quote from: "simplyme"
Paul is Paul.  I don't think you all are old enought to remember, but he's not a double.  People back in the day [not me] even played records backwards just like all the hoaxers do now over Michael.  Paul is Paul.  He hooked up with Linda very young and they were married forever.  He almost as cocky now as he ever was.  I can see why he and John had problems.

How do you explain the obvious differences in appearance after the 60's?

I believe anything is possible. And obviously, people change. But not the kind of changes noted in this research.
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: RK on April 26, 2010, 10:05:48 PM
I'm a hugh fan of the Beatles music.  Like MJ they also were the soundtrack to my youth. Of more interest to me would be a study into why John was murdered. He had stated that if something happens to Yoko or me it was no accident. I felt sorry for Yoko. In this series she was once again depicted negatively [ Host referred to her as a witchy woman a number of times] who manipulated John's art. It must have been a heavy burden for her to be hated by fans and blamed for coming between the band and their inevitable break up whilst all the while being an artist in your own right but never able to get out of the larger shadow of John.   I feel that she too has been a victim of negative press and public opinion and speculations. Injustice once again and it stinks.  Whether I agree with someone or even if I like or don't like their art or music, I have an in built need to speak up on their behalf.
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: TracyK on April 26, 2010, 11:34:45 PM
Listen guys I have to say this.. If you believe that the real Michael Jackson was replaced by a clone some years ago, why are you here investigating some imposters death? That baffles me. You're not grieving over Michael Jackson you're grieving over a stranger. That's just how I see it. Paul never died.. His fans killed him and not some hoax he came up with. No one tried to kill him he was not running from anything or anyone.. A fan made that crap up and people ran with the story. It just isn't true.
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: Jacksonology on April 26, 2010, 11:48:05 PM
it's weird that on the paul is dead forum they discuss evidence that Paul is dead and on our forum we discuss evidence that Michael is alive(http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/lol.gif)
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: scorpionchik on April 27, 2010, 12:25:11 AM
Dont' go too far with fantasies.

"Rebuttal
In November 1969, Life magazine published an edition with cover story entitled "The case of the ‘missing’ Beatle: Paul is still with us" which included a contemporary interview with McCartney.[1] McCartney said:

“Anyway all of the things that have been, that have made these rumours, to my mind have very ordinary, logical explanations. To the people’s minds who prefer to think of them as rumours, then I am not going to interfere, I am not going to spoil that fantasy. You can think of it like that if you like. However, if the end result, the conclusion you reach is that I am dead, then you are wrong, because I am very much alive, I am alive and living in Scotland.”[15]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_is_dead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_is_dead)

Maybe we should ask Michael what he thinks, was he singing with Paul "Say, Say, say" or somebody else?

After his death hoax that he died in car accident, Paul returned in 2 years. I hope Michael will reurn sooner.
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: Good Lets Dance on April 27, 2010, 12:57:43 AM
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
Wow.....I watched all the vids........amazing stuff.

According to Rosanne Barr, Joe Jackson in an MK Ultra Operative? WHAT IN THE F*CK?????

Joe was his "Handler". That's why MJ wanted to get away from him. That's why Joe shows no Emotion (detachment- required for handler) I was going to start a thread about this but I'm too Chicken so I'll put it here. I was just at a function in DC, where there are some well known recording artists here now. I had chance to chat with a guy in the Production end of music. I ask him "Do you think MJ is really dead or manage to escape?" He said "I know he is dead" and proceed to tell me how he knows. I then ask if he think Murry had help in murdering MJ, he does not know but would not be surprised if that were the case. (Meaning someone else involved) I then ask "Do you think MJ was MK-Ultra'd" and he said "no doubt about it, that's obvious!" He said he was "sold" to the business by his Father. Now I am really paranoid bout putting this here cause you never know "who" is reading these boards so don't be surprised if I come back later and remove this, ok?
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: scorpionchik on April 27, 2010, 01:23:29 AM
Quote from: "Good Lets Dance"
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
Wow.....I watched all the vids........amazing stuff.

According to Rosanne Barr, Joe Jackson in an MK Ultra Operative? WHAT IN THE F*CK?????

Joe was his "Handler". That's why MJ wanted to get away from him. That's why Joe shows no Emotion (detachment- required for handler) I was going to start a thread about this but I'm too Chicken so I'll put it here. I was just at a function in DC, where there are some well known recording artists here now. I had chance to chat with a guy in the Production end of music. I ask him "Do you think MJ is really dead or manage to escape?" He said "I know he is dead" and proceed to tell me how he knows. I then ask if he think Murry had help in murdering MJ, he does not know but would not be surprised if that were the case. (Meaning someone else involved) I then ask "Do you think MJ was MK-Ultra'd" and he said "no doubt about it, that's obvious!" He said he was "sold" to the business by his Father. Now I am really paranoid bout putting this here cause you never know "who" is reading these boards so don't be surprised if I come back later and remove this, ok?

If whoever it is knows MJ is dead, then he should not have a doubt also that Murrey was ordered to do it.
It is obvious that whomever is also MK-Ultrad since he is sure in things he never analyzed or investigated like us. He just follows "THEM". Person whos mind is under control, would  not fight  them and write and sing "They don't care about us", "Unbreakable", "Xscape", "Stranger in Moscow", "Earth Song", and alike. 90% of the case is "mystery", incnsistency of facts, and lie. I wish he brows through the whole site threads?That's why MJ hates Joe cause he knows that father sold him to business.
I am NOT affraid of anyone who reads this site. I don't give a shit to LAPD, CIA, FBI, Attorney, Illuminaty, etc .       That's me.  :!:
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: Good Lets Dance on April 27, 2010, 02:02:40 AM
If whoever it is knows MJ is dead, then he should not have a doubt also that Murrey was ordered to do it.
It is obvious that whomever is also MK-Ultrad since he is sure in things he never analyzed or investigated like us. He just follows "THEM". Person whos mind is under control, would not fight them and write and sing "They don't care about us", "Unbreakable", "Xscape", "Stranger in Moscow", "Earth Song", and alike. 90% of the case is "mystery", incnsistency of facts, and lie. I wish he brows through the whole site threads?That's why MJ hates Joe cause he knows that father sold him to business.
I am NOT affraid of anyone who reads this site. I don't give a shit to LAPD, CIA, FBI, Attorney, Illuminaty, etc . That's me

You right, he was NO longer under mind control with those songs...That's why they want to do away with MJ, because those songs EXPOSE them. When they can no longer control the person, it's time to "Eliminate" them. (Just like the guy said in the see-eye-a video)
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: Sternschen87 on April 27, 2010, 12:09:55 PM
paul had the car crash 1966

the double married 1969.... so she maybe does not know him?!?!

Different EYE COLORS
Different HEIGHT
false mustache...

seems very strange...
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: mjjveritas on April 27, 2010, 01:10:21 PM
Here is a link to a site where we can see Paul McCartney's eye color. PM has said he has Hazel colored eyes. Remember the definition of Hazel when it refers to eye color is different between the USA and UK. According to Wikipedia this color is known for having confusion about the definition. The photography camera film used e.g. (Kodak and Fuji) between different manufacturers can make eye color appear different or untrue. I remember wearing a Purple item of clothing when photographed and when the photo came back from being processed my top was Blue. Eye color can look different depending on the printing process/what type of paper the photo is on. Also eyes can fade in color as one ages. Anyway what is more important than eye color in identifying someone is the iris pattern which is unique to every individual. http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.tlcgraphic.com/images/GreenEyedPaul01.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.tlcgraphic.com/paul4.html&usg=__4mFUhC5N4N9jW1iaMcSOV913yoo=&h=189&w=183&sz=34&hl=en&start=1&itbs=1&tbnid=2aJEDzer-E1TSM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=100&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dpaul%2Bmccartney%2Beye%2Bcolor%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: Sternschen87 on April 28, 2010, 05:16:58 AM
ok... maybe it has to do with the camera,...
and what about face shape ang height?
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: Sternschen87 on April 28, 2010, 05:18:40 AM
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Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: mjjveritas on April 28, 2010, 06:17:34 AM
Sternschen87, Thanks for the comparisons. I still think there is only one Paul McCartney. Regarding the height issue, it depends on the surface one is standing on, height of footwear, whether standing up straight or slightly slouching, the angle one is standing, where the photographer is at and even what clothes someone is wearing. In the face photos, there does look to be differences but this could be photo manipulation/distortion or PM changed his diet. Also comparing in the next lot of photos, photos which are fifteen years apart or so is an unfair comparison. Someone did the same type of photo comparison with a couple of photos of Barack Obama and they didn't tally. I've not heard anyone suggest Obama has a double but who knows.
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: GirlSaturday on April 28, 2010, 08:14:30 AM
Great reearch. I'm convinced more than ever that doubles are used to replace some people. It's much deeper than we even realize. Money, greed, power...you name it are critical motivators to encourage evil-doers to take such drastic action. Plus we must be mindful that scientists and governments  have been fascinated with genetic testing and experimenting with humans since the dawn of time.

I find myself now wondering who else has slipped past the public and gone undetected.Is anyone willing to go out on a limb and take a guess?
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: Sternschen87 on April 28, 2010, 09:21:19 AM
I just came across this theme by coincidence....
because of alle the double stuff with Michael and the death hoax... and one time we also speaked about the death hoax of Paul mccartney and I just wanted to get closer on what happened with him... maybe some comparisons like heart attack?  ;)  And then I went to a hoax forum and they talked about all this stuff and I have to say that I am convinced that Paul has been replaced...
Because all the newspaper have written that the car accident was mortally...
and months later... there he is again....?!?!


And then to a fan it is even more strange if the "Paul" they have known changes his EYE color.. his EAR... his HEIGHT... his FACE shape etc....
ah and last but not least his VOICE.... I don't know if it is true. I just came over it and read all the evidences...
I can understand if he had a car accident that he used plastic surgery for his nose or whatever....
but eye color, height and voice are things you cannot change!

There are also clues on their albums ...
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: Sternschen87 on April 28, 2010, 09:47:58 AM
and an other interesting part...
Paul is left handed
double is right handed....
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: mjjveritas on April 28, 2010, 10:03:26 AM
Sternschen87, The photo of Paul McCartney in the White shirt, I have read could be transposed or if not, PM could've picked up the guitar the other way for whatever reason. It's unfortunate we can't see his buttons on the shirt (if there are any) because traditionally men and womens' buttons on clothing were on the opposite side to each other. I just don't think it constitutes proof. The Liverpool/Scouse accent of PM is also evident when PM speaks although sometimes he has a Mid Atlantic twang. I think it is all too far fetched and just an interesting theory.
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on April 30, 2010, 02:50:07 PM
http://www.google.ca/images?hl=en&q=pic ... CBsQsAQwAA (http://www.google.ca/images?hl=en&q=picture+of+paul+mccartney&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=ZTPbS_LDEsOC8gbIo_hP&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBsQsAQwAA)

I am looking at Paul Mccarthy pictures. Some pics he has dark brown eyes, some he has light brown eyes. and some pics seems blue eyes. When he spoke on Amercan Idol, His eyes looked like a dark blue. Unless he has colorful contacts. Well check out these pics and give your output
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: mjjveritas on April 30, 2010, 06:20:50 PM
all4loveandbelieve, Thanks for the link. I think Paul McCartney's eye color may not be as dark as what they appear in some photos. I think conspiracy theorists who champion the double believe the original/real PM had dark Brown eyes and the replacement has Green/Brown eyes. I think the PM we see today is the real PM and his eyes are Greeny/Brown in the mid tone range. Another definition is probably Hazel. I think some conspiracy theorists reckon this is the color attributed to anyone when there is no consensus on the point. It's best to see the (truer) color in daylight/bright sunshine. I think the printing process in photos and on moving film can make one's eyes look varying colors. The only real test is to look into the person's eyes in the flesh or ask them and PM seemingly has said he has Hazel colored eyes and I believe him.  :) It's quite interesting reading the views of people who believe the double theory, see the David Icke site for more on this. According to that site every second famous person has a double, no sorry every famous person has a double or has been "replaced" or "Stepforded" or cloned. The strange thing is the posters on there sound quite intelligent but a little mad. ;)
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: jessicakthx on April 30, 2010, 09:14:23 PM
If you've got some time and some patience, this site is pretty cool.

http://www.turnmeondeadman.com/index.ph ... &Itemid=10 (http://www.turnmeondeadman.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3&Itemid=10)

On the sidebar to the left you can go through different parts of the "hoax" and see the clues and stuff. They have pictures and audio too. I enjoyed it  :D
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: mjjveritas on April 30, 2010, 09:19:54 PM
jessicakthx, Thank you for your link. I will take a look. :)
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: jessicakthx on April 30, 2010, 09:31:51 PM
Quote from: "mjjveritas"
jessicakthx, Thank you for your link. I will take a look. :)

You're welcome :D It's pretty fascinating, I think!
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on May 01, 2010, 07:33:55 AM
Quote from: "mjjveritas"
all4loveandbelieve, Thanks for the link. I think Paul McCartney's eye color may not be as dark as what they appear in some photos. I think conspiracy theorists who champion the double believe the original/real PM had dark Brown eyes and the replacement has Green/Brown eyes. I think the PM we see today is the real PM and his eyes are Greeny/Brown in the mid tone range. Another definition is probably Hazel. I think some conspiracy theorists reckon this is the color attributed to anyone when there is no consensus on the point. It's best to see the (truer) color in daylight/bright sunshine. I think the printing process in photos and on moving film can make one's eyes look varying colors. The only real test is to look into the person's eyes in the flesh or ask them and PM seemingly has said he has Hazel colored eyes and I believe him.  :) It's quite interesting reading the views of people who believe the double theory, see the David Icke site for more on this. According to that site every second famous person has a double, no sorry every famous person has a double or has been "replaced" or "Stepforded" or cloned. The strange thing is the posters on there sound quite intelligent but a little mad. ;)



mjjveritas  thank you..
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: somekindofsign on May 01, 2010, 07:39:12 AM
I recognize I haven´t readen the whole thread, but I want to say something.

I´ve seen and heard Paul telling his father´s "(well, well) just becacuse" story after his suppossed death... if that is not him I don´t understand nature anymore. I could even accept every one of us have a clone somewhere... but somewhere, not grown up in Liverpool as well, in this case.

That voice...
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: PercyThrillington on December 07, 2010, 12:40:17 AM
I have already made a post wih the links at PID - MJ hoax parallel, so I'll post one more here, ok?

http://digilander.libero.it/jamespaul/ (http://digilander.libero.it/jamespaul/) - this is the site with the legal photocomparisons and the photofaking evidence. If Paul is not dead, why the photo faking?

Also...

(http://i49.tinypic.com/4rz0ic.jpg)

the devil's horns on the right. Not saying "MJ is evil!!!", absolutely not, but what if he uses the Illuminati sign? Yes, definitely.
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: PercyThrillington on December 07, 2010, 06:52:44 AM
Quote from: "PercyThrillington"
Also...

(http://i49.tinypic.com/4rz0ic.jpg)

the devil's horns on the right. Not saying "MJ is evil!!!", absolutely not, but what if he uses the Illuminati sign? Yes, definitely.

Sorry,this is not the horns, please, delete the previous and the current message. My bad...
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: Moonwalker500 on May 09, 2011, 02:48:03 PM
yeah because the beatles can find a body double who sings exactley like him
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: Moonwalker500 on May 22, 2011, 11:21:13 AM
http://www.paulisnotdead.com/ (http://www.paulisnotdead.com/)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlUd5YslVzc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlUd5YslVzc)
you can't teach someone to be Elvis, MJ, John Lennon, George Harrison so why the f*** do you think you can teach someone to be Paul Mccartney?
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: Andrea on May 22, 2011, 11:57:50 AM
Quote from: "Moonwalker500"
http://www.paulisnotdead.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlUd5YslVzc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlUd5YslVzc)
you can't teach someone to be Elvis, MJ, John Lennon, George Harrison so why the f*** do you think you can teach someone to be Paul Mccartney?

Yes I agree.  Paul is Paul and always has been, in my opinion.  The "Paul is dead" thing was a clever hoax and nothing more.  Those prankster Beatles!  :lol:
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: Moonwalker500 on May 22, 2011, 12:57:07 PM
Quote from: "Andrea"
Quote from: "Moonwalker500"
http://www.paulisnotdead.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlUd5YslVzc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlUd5YslVzc)
you can't teach someone to be Elvis, MJ, John Lennon, George Harrison so why the f*** do you think you can teach someone to be Paul Mccartney?

Yes I agree.  Paul is Paul and always has been, in my opinion.  The "Paul is dead" thing was a clever hoax and nothing more.  Those prankster Beatles!  :lol:
Thank you Andrea I love the Beatles they put those clues on their Sgt. Pepper album as a joke and there is more evidence to prove Paul is Alive than dead just as with Michael there is more evidence to prove he is alive than dead. michael-jackson/
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: maninthemoon on May 22, 2011, 01:03:22 PM
There might've been a double, but in Paul's interview he thought of it as a very ridiculous thought. Also, it has been many, many years so why haven't they already exposed the double to us? Would that disappoint someone?
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: Andrea on May 22, 2011, 01:08:28 PM
I love The Beatles too!  :P

Paul addresses the Paul-is-dead hoax in this interview:

[youtube:1y6yc2rp]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNBIyGxV7Ek[/youtube:1y6yc2rp]

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: Starchild on May 22, 2011, 03:57:06 PM
The Chris Farley video is hilarious, Andrea. :lol:  

I don’t know if the following video has already been posted, but in it Letterman asks McCartney about how the death rumors surrounding him (McCartney) got started.  Notice the photo that Letterman just happens to hold up at 2:08 immediately following the discussion.

[youtube:1h9zp308]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kYDdBWESQw&feature=related[/youtube:1h9zp308]
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: Kristina4LOVE on May 22, 2011, 04:23:56 PM
Quote from: "starchild"
The Chris Farley video is hilarious, Andrea. :lol:  

I don’t know if the following video has already been posted, but in it Letterman asks McCartney about how the death rumors surrounding him (McCartney) got started.  Notice the photo that Letterman just happens to hold up at 2:08 immediately following the discussion.

[youtube:20rzuz4r]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kYDdBWESQw&feature=related[/youtube:20rzuz4r]

I've watched this interview too, so funny and Paul is great as always  :D. When he showed him the picture of Paul and Michael together, i was like what? It's like the weirdest change of subject  ever :lol: Paul is also telling the story of how Michael bought Beatles catalog  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: Michael you are soooooooooo bad and the best businessman in the World!  mj_dance/
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: Andrea on May 22, 2011, 04:24:50 PM
Thanks for posting that Letterman video starchild.  I actually posted it in another thread but that was long ago and it was good to watch it again.  The interview was filmed less than a month after Michael "died" and you're right, it's quite interesting that they start talking about Michael right after the Paul-is-dead hoax and double talk.  Weird.  Paul also talks about Michael is present tense.  It wouldn't surprise me at all if Paul knows Michael is alive.

I really wish John Lennon's death was a hoax.  :cry:   I tried looking into it to see if anyone on the internet had any theories on it but didn't really find any apart from a couple videos on youtube of people pretending to be John.  The only thought I had was that only Yoko and the doorman witnessed it, apart from Mark David Chapman-killer (who I think was brain-washed into killing John but I've written about that in other threads) and that they could've said John was killed...but I couldn't get around the fact the MDC has been in jail ever since and the police that showed up on the scene.  Although the police said John was unrecognizable.  I love John, I wish I had been alive when he was (I was born about 16 months after he died).
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: Moonwalker500 on May 23, 2011, 03:15:29 PM
Quote from: "Andrea"
Thanks for posting that Letterman video starchild.  I actually posted it in another thread but that was long ago and it was good to watch it again.  The interview was filmed less than a month after Michael "died" and you're right, it's quite interesting that they start talking about Michael right after the Paul-is-dead hoax and double talk.  Weird.  Paul also talks about Michael is present tense.  It wouldn't surprise me at all if Paul knows Michael is alive.

I really wish John Lennon's death was a hoax.  :cry:   I tried looking into it to see if anyone on the internet had any theories on it but didn't really find any apart from a couple videos on youtube of people pretending to be John.  The only thought I had was that only Yoko and the doorman witnessed it, apart from Mark David Chapman-killer (who I think was brain-washed into killing John but I've written about that in other threads) and that they could've said John was killed...but I couldn't get around the fact the MDC has been in jail ever since and the police that showed up on the scene.  Although the police said John was unrecognizable.  I love John, I wish I had been alive when he was (I was born about 16 months after he died).
Same if only John was in FBI protection or something  :(  I was born 16 years after his death still upset though
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: paula-c on May 25, 2011, 09:53:28 PM
in the documental there are tremendous flaws of consistency but there are interesting things

Testament of George Harrison

[youtube:1qpljnr7]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0qYZKogc78&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:1qpljnr7]







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0qYZKog ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0qYZKogc78&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: Moonwalker500 on May 26, 2011, 01:49:08 PM
that documentary was released on April the 1st coincidence? also it isn't George Harrison's voice.
also flaws with Paul's alleged death:
Paul has been the same height as always
Strawberry Fields is a Orphanage not a Graveside
Paul has played with his left hand after 1966
The Paul Mccartney Look-a-like contest didn't happen and William Campbell doesn't exist either
I could go even further but I already gave you the links to the info
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: RK on May 27, 2011, 11:49:21 AM
http://beatlesnumber9.com/feud.html
Because MJ bought the Beatles catalogue, had Sean Lennon in Moonwalker as well as recording with Macca, I think there is a lot of interesting facts to be gleaned from dissecting the rift between Lennon and McCartney.
There is the fact that Paul brought in Lee Eastman, his inlaw, a wealthy american jew [owned kodak?] which John was very vocal about. I have read, but am unable to locate the link that Branca had conspired with Paul to buy the catalogue with Michael's money before shafting him for it. But the plan backfired. Yoko, on the other hand did not begrudge Michael buying it. This rift must have been pretty deep for Lennon to pen "How do you sleep at night" from his Imagine album. And it would seem that the rift is still ongoing between Yoko and Paul up to the present.
In 1997, Ono compared John to Mozart while Paul she said more closely resembled his less talented rival Salieri and Paul not inviting Yoko to the memorial for Linda in NY.
Now, I have always been a massive Beatles fan, and especially of John, but these days I am not so sure that all is kosher with Paul. No, I don't believe he is a double, but I do question some of his motives.
Title: Re: There is more than a hoax.... Paul is dead
Post by: Blue Fox of Love on June 01, 2011, 11:29:02 PM
I don't know... even John changed his voice many times, depending on the songs. It is part of the art, acting the song.
I still see the same "sparkling" in his eyes, young and older. Wathever the color is, his look feels the same, to me.
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