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Title: More V for Vendetta
Post by: Arianna_07 on December 28, 2009, 04:43:10 PM
More V for Vendetta


We all know  the video that MJalive999 created on youtube about the connections between this movie and MJ's Hoax. And TIAI did redirected us as well to this movie. And I'm sure many of u already discussed about this on this forum. Sorry for re-opening this topic again.

 ok... Why this movie???
Mjalive999 showed us the most important "coincidences" with the hoax,  wich are :
1. The fight for the TRUTH and FREEDOM.
2. The Big Announcement ( with that red curtain signature)
3. The statue of children holding hands in a circle ( very similar with the one in Neverland). Except the statue in V movie is formed by 5 children, while Mj's has 7  - both  of them have a  thing with the numbers here ;)
4. The Fedora man  -  V is in  disguise - and he is  recording (with a camera)  the meeting with the detective ;)  looks a lot like the Hat man at the Memorial.
5. The backround imagine ( with the Army of Hope for V and The Army of LOVE for MJ?)
Mjalive999 did an amazing job conecting this movie (V for Vendetta) and the hoax together! bravo. ;)

But I see more  "coincidences" ! And that's why I've decided to open a new  thread about this very special movie!
My question is...Was this movie the main source of inspiration for MJ's Hoax??
Let's go back to the story line and see more then we've already seen!

The Release of the movie was in March 2006  ;)

The Action starts in London.( how familiar )..;)
- A shadowy, mysterious freedom fighter; with an ideea that changed the world - V .
- A man in a mask who says about himself : " I'm a musician of sorts, and on my way to give a very special performance. I promise it will be like nothing you've ever seen! "

1. As the story beggins, we hear these lines : "This is a Test..... England Prevails"
2. BTN (British Television Network) - reports a fabricated news about a death! ( " you think ppl will buy this??? Why not?? this is BTN - our job is to report the news, not fabricate it! that's government's job").
3. The Big Announcement made by V!
    He mentions the words :  truth, cruelty, injustice, intolerance and "Truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into  a mirror.(...) But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand beside me ONE year from tonight,  and together we shall give them a fifth of November that shall never, ever be forgot."
4. The BTN news reports : The masked man was shot and killed .dead - ( Lies)
5. V's home - the Shadow Gallery - underground, looks like a museum - Art items, books, music..
    The song "Cry me a River " plays on the jukebox, performed by Julie London
~"Now you say you're sorry
For bein' so untrue
Well, you can cry me a river, cry me a river
I cried a river over you"~
6. The Voice of  London ( Prothero) - was killed  (by V) with an overdose of legal drugs!
   On the news they reported the cause of death - Heart Failure ( more Lies).
7. Evey Hammond - captured and tortured by V, reads this message "What I hope most of all is that you understand what I mean when I tell you that, even though I do not know you, and even though I may never meet you, laugh with you, cry with you, or kiss you, I love you. With all my heart, I love you."
    Why all this ?
   Evey - "That wasn't real"
    V -  " you wanted to live without fear. I wish there'd been an easier way, but there wasn't. I know you may never forgive me... but nor   will you understand how hard it was for me to do what I did".
".........artists use lies to tell the truth. Yes, I created a lie. But because you believed it, you found something true about yourself. "
8. 4th of November - the Eve of the  Revolution: ( after 347 days from the Announcement?? anyway...very interesting choice of numbers..do we have a 77 or wht?? ;)
The policeman Finch - " Tonight's your big night. Are you ready for it?... Are we ready for it?
The problem is, he knows us better than we know ourselves. I suddenly had this feeling that everything was connected.
I felt like I could see everything that happened, and everything that is going to happen. It was like a perfect pattern, laid out in front of me. And I realised we're all part of it, and all trapped by it. "

In the movie we have important figures of the society - the media, the police, the doctors, the church ( the bishop) and a character - called Spider ( death ) -  all involved, connected  and part of the Vendetta! They all went down like pieces in a Domino! Only One piece didn't fall ...and that was LOVE ( or Hope?)........

V - " What us done to me, created me! "

In  the end, V  succeded - with the price of his death - and the help of  Evey, Finch and his Army - to change the world and make a day to remember!;)
"Remember, remember the fifth of November!"

My last question is .....could this line be real ?? " There are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidence! " Could most of our answers be in this movie ?

Now ...You be the judge of all this...!  ;)
Bcz maybe I'm going crazy and I see more then it is...in everything and everywhere!! :mrgreen:  But I saw this movie on tv, on Saturday and couldn't help not noticing how many things in common V and MJ have ;) ;)
Who knows ? maybe some of u  here will enjoy this thread, and if u don't .. u have my apologies for borring u with my crazy thoughts and scenarios!  :roll:
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: Syringa on December 28, 2009, 04:51:15 PM
You make very good points there, I have to admit.
I was supposed to watch the movie myself, but have been too busy. I bought it years ago and watched it then, but can't remember a thing about it. Hmmh. Maybe I'll watch it tomorrow and be wiser !

I think V and MJ really have many thing in common, and the statue-thing is very suspicious... And all the sevens.
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: whateverhappens on December 28, 2009, 05:06:23 PM
Quote from: "Arianna_07"
More V for Vendetta


We all know  the video that MJalive999 created on youtube about the connections between this movie and MJ's Hoax. And TIAI did redirected us as well to this movie. And I'm sure many of u already discussed about this on this forum. Sorry for re-opening this topic again.

 ok... Why this movie???
Mjalive999 showed us the most important "coincidences" with the hoax,  wich are :
1. The fight for the TRUTH and FREEDOM.
2. The Big Announcement ( with that red curtain signature)
3. The statue of children holding hands in a circle ( very similar with the one in Neverland). Except the statue in V movie is formed by 5 children, while Mj's has 7  - both  of them have a  thing with the numbers here ;)
4. The Fedora man  -  V is in  disguise - and he is  recording (with a camera)  the meeting with the detective ;)  looks a lot like the Hat man at the Memorial.
5. The backround imagine ( with the Army of Hope for V and The Army of LOVE for MJ?)
Mjalive999 did an amazing job conecting this movie (V for Vendetta) and the hoax together! bravo. ;)

But I see more  "coincidences" ! And that's why I've decided to open a new  thread about this very special movie!
My question is...Was this movie the main source of inspiration for MJ's Hoax??
Let's go back to the story line and see more then we've already seen!

The Release of the movie was in March 2006  ;)

The Action starts in London.( how familiar )..;)
- A shadowy, mysterious freedom fighter; with an ideea that changed the world - V .
- A man in a mask who says about himself : " I'm a musician of sorts, and on my way to give a very special performance. I promise it will be like nothing you've ever seen! "

1. As the story beggins, we hear these lines : "This is a Test..... England Prevails"
2. BTN (British Television Network) - reports a fabricated news about a death! ( " you think ppl will buy this??? Why not?? this is BTN - our job is to report the news, not fabricate it! that's government's job").
3. The Big Announcement made by V!
    He mentions the words :  truth, cruelty, injustice, intolerance and "Truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into  a mirror.(...) But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand beside me ONE year from tonight,  and together we shall give them a fifth of November that shall never, ever be forgot."
4. The BTN news reports : The masked man was shot and killed .dead - ( Lies)
5. V's home - the Shadow Gallery - underground, looks like a museum - Art items, books, music..
    The song "Cry me a River " plays on the jukebox, performed by Julie London
~"Now you say you're sorry
For bein' so untrue
Well, you can cry me a river, cry me a river
I cried a river over you"~
6. The Voice of  London ( Prothero) - was killed  (by V) with an overdose of legal drugs!
   On the news they reported the cause of death - Heart Failure ( more Lies).
7. Evey Hammond - captured and tortured by V, reads this message "What I hope most of all is that you understand what I mean when I tell you that, even though I do not know you, and even though I may never meet you, laugh with you, cry with you, or kiss you, I love you. With all my heart, I love you."
    Why all this ?
   Evey - "That wasn't real"
    V -  " you wanted to live without fear. I wish there'd been an easier way, but there wasn't. I know you may never forgive me... but nor   will you understand how hard it was for me to do what I did".
".........artists use lies to tell the truth. Yes, I created a lie. But because you believed it, you found something true about yourself. "
8. 4th of November - the Eve of the  Revolution: ( after 347 days from the Announcement?? anyway...very interesting choice of numbers..do we have a 77 or wht?? ;)
The policeman Finch - " Tonight's your big night. Are you ready for it?... Are we ready for it?
The problem is, he knows us better than we know ourselves. I suddenly had this feeling that everything was connected.
I felt like I could see everything that happened, and everything that is going to happen. It was like a perfect pattern, laid out in front of me. And I realised we're all part of it, and all trapped by it. "

In the movie we have important figures of the society - the media, the police, the doctors, the church ( the bishop) and a character - called Spider ( death ) -  all involved, connected  and part of the Vendetta! They all went down like pieces in a Domino! Only One piece didn't fall ...and that was LOVE ( or Hope?)........

V - " What us done to me, created me! "

In  the end, V  succeded - with the price of his death - and the help of  Evey, Finch and his Army - to change the world and make a day to remember!;)
"Remember, remember the fifth of November!"

My last question is .....could this line be real ?? " There are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidence! " Could most of our answers be in this movie ?

Now ...You be the judge of all this...!  ;)
Bcz maybe I'm going crazy and I see more then it is...in everything and everywhere!! :mrgreen:  But I saw this movie on tv, on Saturday and couldn't help not noticing how many things in common V and MJ have ;) ;)
Who knows ? maybe some of u  here will enjoy this thread, and if u don't .. u have my apologies for borring u with my crazy thoughts and scenarios!  :roll:

i am really impressed by your post :!:  :!:

on the 25th  i watched that film and i really had the same thoiughts- even my non-eliever husband could not deny simlarities and he does not know why i forced him to watch this film

i can really see so many coincidences that i might believe that mj had wrote the story
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: mjj4ever777 on December 28, 2009, 06:14:15 PM
you're not going crazy whateverhappens! I also saw the similarities you saw. there are just too many "coincidences," for the movie not to mean anything...time for more in depth investigating. :D
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: whateverhappens on December 28, 2009, 06:18:44 PM
Quote from: "mjj4ever777"
you're not going crazy whateverhappens! I also saw the similarities you saw. there are just too many "coincidences," for the movie not to mean anything...time for more in depth investigating. :D

THANK YOU SO MUCH :!:

BY SAYING THIS YOU REALLY MADE MY DAY :lol:  :lol:

SOMETIMES I ALSO HAVE THE FEELING THAT A PADDED CELL WHAT BE THE BEST FOR ME :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: Ninanina on December 28, 2009, 07:20:43 PM
This video about the connections is great!

[youtube:3mz3h6pn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CmqdwVDxcI[/youtube:3mz3h6pn]
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: whateverhappens on December 28, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
THANKS FOR POSTING THIS
I HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE; BUT COULD YOU POSSIBLY REPLY THE URL?
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: Ninanina on December 28, 2009, 07:56:35 PM
Quote from: "whateverhappens"
THANKS FOR POSTING THIS
I HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE; BUT COULD YOU POSSIBLY REPLY THE URL?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CmqdwVD ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CmqdwVDxcI&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: StargazerMJ11 on December 28, 2009, 09:46:28 PM
Michael said he took the ideas from the best and went one better doing things in his own way....!
We are all connected and NOTHING is a coincidence - Michael said :
   "YOU WILL SEE EVERYTHING I WANT YOU TO SEE AND NOTHING I DON'T WANT YOU TO SEE"
      Nothing is coincidence!
       Every single thing is connected
         Love x
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: Arianna_07 on December 29, 2009, 03:02:14 AM
Hi everybody..and thank u for reading my thread!
So...now I do know that I'm not the only one here to see the connections and similarities between V and MJ!  ;) In fact, my sister said..hey! wht if MJ wrote the story ??? :)  that's how far this movie has taken us! lol
Ok...so I guess i'm not that crazy either ...;)..(not yet anyway ..lol).

And u are right whateverhappens ;) ...it's "time for more in depth investigating"
And as soon as I have new infos, I'll share it with you :)
TO BE CONTINUUED....

L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: Ninanina on December 29, 2009, 06:19:42 PM
This is also a good summary:

[youtube:291kfoo4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thChiBDudSs[/youtube:291kfoo4]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thChiBDudSs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thChiBDudSs)
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: Ninanina on December 29, 2009, 06:22:19 PM
Oh, and that wonderful quote:

"A revolution without dancing is a revolution not worth having"  

Isn't Michael one of the greatest dancers of all time? ;-)
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: Arianna_07 on December 30, 2009, 02:51:16 AM
Hi and Thank u Ninanina :)  for posting the videos!
I never did saw these videos before!they are ..wooow....amazing! LOVE them! :)
And it will be great if u keep posting videos u find important and relevant for us, they don't have to be necessarily related to this specific thread .

L.O.V.E. ;)
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: whateverhappens on January 01, 2010, 05:04:36 PM
Quote from: "Arianna_07"
Hi everybody..and thank u for reading my thread!
So...now I do know that I'm not the only one here to see the connections and similarities between V and MJ!  ;) In fact, my sister said..hey! wht if MJ wrote the story ??? :)  that's how far this movie has taken us! lol
Ok...so I guess i'm not that crazy either ...;)..(not yet anyway ..lol).

And u are right whateverhappens ;) ...it's "time for more in depth investigating"
And as soon as I have new infos, I'll share it with you :)
TO BE CONTINUUED....

L.O.V.E.
toda yi saw the film
BATMAN_ THE BEGINNING
and i was really rocked because also here one can find so many of the things we discussed for vendetta

e.g. the evil plans of the people in power- using torture and poison to bring people down who stand for the good or should be manipulated to serve their aims,
also the plan to kill normal people using poisened drinking water

goes with THE ILLUMINATI - Plans - there are some threads dealing with that. PLEASE READ

e.g. there was mentioned a "mental hospital" called ARKHAM vs LARKHAM in vendetta where they do some evil experiments
the main character had to make a choice where to stand - good or evil- said -inbetween
and at the end there was shown the card -JOKER -looked like in mj ghost video) standing for a person who is also ready to help saving GOTHAM = THE WORLD

and they mentioned the death of a loved person to make it possible that
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: paula-c on January 01, 2010, 06:55:21 PM
:mrgreen:   Coincidence?, Matches Until when?, I definitely do not believe in coincidences for me everything is becoming clearer
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 01, 2010, 07:45:11 PM
Now.. why would Michael put Prince in a Vendetta mask??

Hmm.. this is actually one of the more convincing hoax arguments i think.

And 5th Nov is when Evan Chandler topped himself..  hmmm....
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: TheKingWillReturn on January 01, 2010, 07:49:58 PM
I have just watched V, and i noticed after his broadcast he leaves a bomb, and when they show close up it says 3.30, could that poss b the date used by Mike for his return?
Also if i remember the part right, in the speach he says a year from now, they will remember, could it even be the date of the TII announcment at O2 last year, the same date this year will be the BIG one, I'm Back?!!
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: CeeLovesMJ on January 01, 2010, 07:54:29 PM
I have loved this movie since I first saw it in the theatres, and have watched it many times over the years. I can't think of movies much better than this one. I was astonished, however, the parallels between this film and Michael. There is no doubt in my mind that Michael really felt a kinship to V, and adopted many of its ideas and philosophies because they so precisely mirrored his own.

There is no way there are conincidences this profound. Well done. Take a bow.
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 01, 2010, 07:57:05 PM
"remember, remember the 5th of November... gunpowder, treason and plot"

Well... evan chandler did kill himself by gun...  and he did plot against MJ....     i will have to leave the treason bit out for now..  :lol:

creeeeepy
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: WingsWithoutMe on January 20, 2010, 01:15:12 PM
wow :o i must see this movie again :shock:  :shock:
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: jacilovesmichael on January 20, 2010, 01:29:01 PM
I haven't seen this movie yet. I'm going to watch it tonight. Been watching all the video comparisons and reading about it and am already convinced that it is very veryyy much connected. Wow. I am at a loss for words right now and that doesn't happen often.
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: jacilovesmichael on January 20, 2010, 02:26:59 PM
Okay I'm watching the movie online at work LOL I couldn't wait until I got off... I'm noticing SO MUCH as I'm watching. Like V's "home" is so much like Michael's. Full of "strange" and beautfiul things. When he is cooking breakfast Evey notices his hands. Looks like burns. And he puts his gloves back on and says "there, that's better". The Michael Jackson BURN center.... his glove and other things on his hands to cover the vitiligo. Wow. So many paralells. I first noticed all the parallels in This Is It and the movie 2012..and now theres this (even though this was already here but it's new for me as I'm just watching it for the first time). I'm just sitting here thinking... what if.. what if Michael is behind the production for V for Vendetta? You know if 2005 when he told Geraldo that "film" was next for him and that there are "a lot of surprises". I personally wouldn't be surprised if he wrote this movie under a pen name or something. Same goes for 2012. Of course, maybe he just saw this movie and fell in love with it and based a lot of the hoax aspects on it. But I think it's possible to take the idea even further.

I'm sure I'll have more comments as I continue watching this movie... I just had to say something... I think I'm losing my mind!! This is insane! And This is IT  ;)
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: WingsWithoutMe on January 21, 2010, 02:01:00 PM
@ jacilovesmichael
Yes, you are so right about this movie!I was as surprised as everybody here!  :o  :o  :o
 After reading this thread, last night, today I watched the movie on the internet because I wanted to see for my self all the similarities I read about in this thread, wich by the way it's a very good thread! woow :o  I was blown away by this movie, V for Vendetta!
I read on the internet that in the Credits, at the end of the movie, theres this name Michael Michael ! ( we should check this ) ;)  is this another coincidence? Did Mike had anything to do with this movie? he created the story? he even played in the movie? thats why the actor weres a mask the entire movie? I'm asking these Qs bcz watching this movie, made me think about M ike, .....the same stature...slim..tall... :? Or maybe he just found inspiration in this movie? for the TII Project?? :?:  :!:
Theres a lot about this movie , and I think we should pay more attention to it!  ;)

L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: jacilovesmichael on January 21, 2010, 09:31:53 PM
I agree!

Wow...Michael Michael?  That reminds me of...Dave Dave! And he's a burn victim. V was burned badly. Could it all be tied together?
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: WingsWithoutMe on January 22, 2010, 03:12:17 PM
Jacilovesmichael ;) Yes! after giving a lot of thought about this, I think it's all very much tide together! :mrgreen:  
 When V made the announcement (on 5th of Nov), he asked for everybody to stand by his side 1 year later for The Revolution!
Mike made the O2 Announcement on 5th March 2009! So.. 1 year later since that date, On 5th March 2010  should we expect something Big to happen?? ;)  :?:  :?:  :?:
I tend to think that very much of this Hoax has the answers we're looking for in this V for Vendetta movie!  :idea: What if the ANSWERS were right in front of our eyes, but we couldn't see them, bcz we were to busy analyzing more then we should've??? :idea:  :?:  :!:
There are way to many coincidences  here ! :shock:  and  it's impossible to ignore all this!  ;)
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: WingsWithoutMe on January 22, 2010, 04:14:05 PM
;) I really must add this  ;)
“Smee: Captain, the ice is melting, the sun is out and the flowers are all in bloom Captain Hook: He’s back”(remember KO's tweet?????)
March is the first month of spring, when earth finally became visible under the snow. (The ice is melting)





P.E.A.C.E.
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: paula-c on January 22, 2010, 06:36:01 PM
Please someone can tell me where I can watch the movie online, do not understand why it has not arrived here :?:
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: WingsWithoutMe on January 23, 2010, 09:53:51 AM
Hi Paula-c ....here is the  link for you to  watch this movie  ;) enjoy it, and if u come up with other observations about it, please tell us  ;)

http://www.watch-movies.net.in/search/? ... &x=14&y=10 (http://www.watch-movies.net.in/search/?s=V+for+Vendetta&x=14&y=10)
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: paula-c on January 23, 2010, 12:06:52 PM
Thank you very much, WingsWithoutMe :D
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: WingsWithoutMe on January 23, 2010, 12:42:58 PM
My pleasure Paula -c  ;)
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: paula-c on January 25, 2010, 09:50:06 AM
And finally I saw Vendetta, I saw it twice this weekend, and these were the "coincidences" that I saw;

It all starts in London and the big announcement (conference 02)
The struggle for truth and freedom
The statue of children holding hands in a circle (much like the one in Neverland)
The man who meets with the detective (V in disguise), looks much the man of the memorial.
The BTN media, broadcasting news that is produced by the government.
The voice of London (Prothero), died from an overdose of legal drugs, the news report of heart failure.
This film Reflects the corruption that corrodes all institutions of society, media, police, doctors, church (which horror this was a party that impresses me).
All collapsed, one after another domino effect, only one piece does not throw, love.

I think the whole script is worthy of putting it, but it is impossible, & I will confine myself to write more salient phrases;
(Excerpt from the letter that Evey read when the dam), I hope, whoever you are, you escape this place. I hope the world will change and things improve. But what I hope above all is that you understand what I mean when I say that though you do not know, and though you may never get to see you, to laugh with you, mourn with you or kiss you, I love you with all my heart I love you

The people should not fear their rulers, the rulers are the ones who should fear the people (remember)
We are told to remember the ideals, not man, Because a man can be finished, can stop him, can kill you, but 400 years later ideals can continue changing the world

I dedicate this concert to Mrs. justice in honor of this holiday seems to be taking.

Justice, equality and freedom are something more than words, are targets.

I like God, neither game nor do I believe in random chance.

The coincidence does not exist, only the illusion of coincidence.

An open mind can change the world.
And last for me was impossible not to relate all this to the issue of the New World Order, The Authorities experience in humans to produce a virus, non-existent attribute its diffusion to legitimize a terrorist regime to combat them. Plague rides the horse of ambition, fear, greed. Plague is the power :x
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: mformichael on January 25, 2010, 10:43:14 AM
yes...and the red roses..like at memorial...and the Prince mask from V for Vendetta...and 400 years...4 years (told us Michael)...many coincidences...
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: paula-c on January 25, 2010, 11:35:40 AM
Yes mformichael , I would say are already too many "coincidences  8-)
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: Solid121 on February 06, 2010, 11:36:02 AM
Not sure if this photo has been mentioned, it was Halloween 2008...

[attachment=0:2p3u8md5]PrinceV.jpg[/attachment:2p3u8md5]
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: Andrea on January 02, 2011, 12:05:59 PM
I wrote this in another thread viewtopic.php?f=72&t=16890 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=16890) but it seems more appropriate here.

Quote from: "Andrea"
Another V for Vendetta parallel/prediction that I love is this scene from the movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9QbaMrE ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9QbaMrE7Nk&feature=related) - Sorry, it won't embed on here but please watch it ! It's not too long.  :)

A lot of the public believe that V is still alive, something the oppressive establishment doesn't want and on Gordon's show, the "establishment" is openly mocked for maintaining that V was no longer a threat to them and perfectly presented with the silly chase scene accompanied by the Benny Hill theme.  I think the Benny Hill theme is actually quite significant - Michael Jackson is a huge Benny Hill fan.  (So am I, I grew up watching it with my Dad  :) )

"Michael Jackson was a big Benny Hill fan: "I just love your Benny Hill!" the young Jackson told a bemused English music-press critic during a 1970s tour. "He's so funny!". During Benny Hill's decline in health he was visited by Michael Jackson who was in the UK at the time."  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benny_Hill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benny_Hill)

“The funniest comedian in the world. My all-time hero.” Michael Jackson  http://www.sabotagetimes.com/people/the ... enny-hill/ (http://www.sabotagetimes.com/people/the-truth-about-benny-hill/)

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:e93i9Ut6QpSRxM:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/tomasutpen/Album2a/f7e88cf2.jpg&t=1)

I just think it's "coincidental" that the V for Vendetta film has a scene where the majority of the public has realized V is still alive (Michael) and presented on the show in a comedic way with the most appropriate music, as though it were hand-picked by Michael.  Using the media and mocking the "powers that be".  An eerie fictional prediction of real life events to come?

So it would make sense that if Michael had some say in this film (it seems he did, right?), that he would use a comedic influence of someone he greatly admires (Benny Hill).  What's also interesting about this part of the movie is Gordon's role.  Gordon has his own show and is a very popular media figure...but he is on V's side and fighting the same fight against the evil establishment.  So someone in the media working for V.  Who on the media is on Michael's side??  TMZ (Harvey Levin), Larry King (although his show has ended)...and possibly Oprah??  If someone in the media recognizes what Michael is doing is for good (like Gordon did with V), that person(s) would help Michael.  A popular media figure on Michael's side makes sense and is just yet another parallel to V for Vendetta.  

I read all the posts in this thread and there are too many coincidences between the movie and the hoax and as we all know by now - There are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidence.
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: Andrea on January 02, 2011, 12:32:57 PM
For anyone who may be confused as to who Benny Hill is, he was a British comedian - read more here if interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benny_Hill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benny_Hill)

I found this one youtube, someone did the Benny Hill theme song to the Thriller dance for some reason.  But it's the music Gordon uses in his show when strongly hinting the V is still alive.

[youtube:27zip6n5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKqIYmTHXe0[/youtube:27zip6n5]
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: TouchedByAnAngel on January 02, 2011, 07:37:30 PM
Quote from: "Ninanina"
This is also a good summary:

[youtube:4qeewpb2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thChiBDudSs[/youtube:4qeewpb2]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thChiBDudSs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thChiBDudSs)

I saw this video when it first came out and today somebody tweeted the link on Twitter and I watched it again and noticed something. Stop the video at .36 it reads "The 5th of November 2020, a year after his sensational first demonstration actions, V is ready for his final act". The year 2020 jumped out at me because of this pic about Tito at the Peach Drop for New Year's Eve wishing everyone to Have a Great 2020

http://www.peachdrop.com/index.php

(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae337/cjcntx/PeachDrop2020.jpg)

How could they mess up the year like that? I don't think they did it by accident! Perhaps this was Tito's way of telling us that 2011 is going to be like V's 2020? Are we to get ready for V's (MJ's) final act?!

I never saw V For Vendetta until it was a redirect by TS way back in the beginning of this adventure. I immediately saw the connections to Michael and in fact in my heart I believe that Michael was the actor Behind The Mask.

Blessed to have been,
Touched By An Angel
http://twitter.com/TouchedByAngelM (http://twitter.com/TouchedByAngelM)
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: ForstAMoon on January 02, 2011, 07:42:41 PM
Quote from: "TouchedByAnAngel"
Quote from: "Ninanina"
This is also a good summary:

[youtube:3j9vumgd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thChiBDudSs[/youtube:3j9vumgd]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thChiBDudSs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thChiBDudSs)

I saw this video when it first came out and today somebody tweeted the link on Twitter and I watched it again and noticed something. Stop the video at .36 it reads "The 5th of November 2020, a year after his sensational first demonstration actions, V is ready for his final act". The year 2020 jumped out at me because of this pic about Tito at the Peach Drop for New Year's Eve wishing everyone to Have a Great 2020

http://www.peachdrop.com/index.php

(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae337/cjcntx/PeachDrop2020.jpg)

How could they mess up the year like that? I don't think they did it by accident! Perhaps this was Tito's way of telling us that 2011 is going to be like V's 2020? Are we to get ready for V's (MJ's) final act?!

I never saw V For Vendetta until it was a redirect by TS way back in the beginning of this adventure. I immediately saw the connections to Michael and in fact in my heart I believe that Michael was the actor Behind The Mask.

Blessed to have been,
Touched By An Angel
http://twitter.com/TouchedByAngelM (http://twitter.com/TouchedByAngelM)

this is very very interesting, it also looks like the Have a Great 2020 tab was added on top of sth already there which says: "The peach drops in:"
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: voiceforthesilent on January 02, 2011, 08:49:32 PM
http://mjkit.forumotion.net/t1714-v-for-vendetta (http://mjkit.forumotion.net/t1714-v-for-vendetta)

I was searching for information on the producer to see if there were any connections to Michael. The movie is a Warner Brothers movie - I'm sure it's already been mentioned. I won't state the same things over but the forum that I linked above has some more interesting connections.

All thanks goes to the person from this link. I just cut/pasted what I found interesting.
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: voiceforthesilent on January 02, 2011, 08:56:20 PM
Quote from: "ForstAMoon"
Quote from: "TouchedByAnAngel"
Quote from: "Ninanina"
This is also a good summary:

[youtube:293zt2iz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thChiBDudSs[/youtube:293zt2iz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thChiBDudSs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thChiBDudSs)

I saw this video when it first came out and today somebody tweeted the link on Twitter and I watched it again and noticed something. Stop the video at .36 it reads "The 5th of November 2020, a year after his sensational first demonstration actions, V is ready for his final act". The year 2020 jumped out at me because of this pic about Tito at the Peach Drop for New Year's Eve wishing everyone to Have a Great 2020

http://www.peachdrop.com/index.php

(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae337/cjcntx/PeachDrop2020.jpg)

How could they mess up the year like that? I don't think they did it by accident! Perhaps this was Tito's way of telling us that 2011 is going to be like V's 2020? Are we to get ready for V's (MJ's) final act?!

I never saw V For Vendetta until it was a redirect by TS way back in the beginning of this adventure. I immediately saw the connections to Michael and in fact in my heart I believe that Michael was the actor Behind The Mask.

Blessed to have been,
Touched By An Angel
http://twitter.com/TouchedByAngelM (http://twitter.com/TouchedByAngelM)

this is very very interesting, it also looks like the Have a Great 2020 tab was added on top of sth already there which says: "The peach drops in:"

Forst - this does it for me. No more need to convince me. Now I wonder like the rest of you - did Michael either write V or perform in it? Very interesting connection for sure. I wonder when V was written...early 2000's maybe? Earlier? Hmmm...
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: voiceforthesilent on January 02, 2011, 09:05:03 PM
Portman's 'Vendetta' To Keep London Explosion Storylines
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0574625/news?year=2005 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0574625/news?year=2005)

Portman's 'Vendetta' To Keep London Explosion Storylines

25 July 2005 | WENN | See recent WENN news »

Producers of Natalie Portman's forthcoming film V For Vendetta have refused to edit out scenes of bombings on the London Underground train network, despite the recent terrorist attacks in the British capital. Fifty-five people were killed and over 700 injured when a double-decker bus and three trains were blown apart by suicide bombers on July 7. Last week, one person was injured during four failed terror attacks on different underground railway lines and a bus in east London. In V For Vendetta, a futuristic London is the target of a terrorist attacks and sees the tube lines destroyed by bombings. Executive producer Joel Silver says, "It's a great time for this movie. It's a controversial film and it's a controversial time. It's going to make people think." Fellow producer David Lloyd adds, "In terms of what happened in London it's important to try and understand what leads people to terrorism. There should be lots of movies made about terrorists." Director James McTiegue explains, "Terrorism is one of those themes that never really goes away." »


Berlinale Adds Competitors

19 January 2006 | Studio Briefing - Film News | See recent Studio Briefing - Film News news »

Organizers of the 56th annual Berlin International Film Festival -- the Berlinale -- have announced the titles of 14 additional entries in this year's competition. Nine films had previously been announced, and three more films will be added before the festival opens on Feb. 9. Among U.S. films selected for the competition on Wednesday are Robert Altman's A Prairie Home Companion, starring Meryl Streep, Lily Tomlin, Woody Harrelson, Kevin Kline and John C. Reilly; and Michael Winterbottom's documentary/drama The Road to Guantanamo. Among films screening out of the competition will be Bennett Miller's Capote, starring Philip Seymour Hoffman as writer Truman Capote, and James McTeigue's V for Vendetta, written by the Wachowski brothers. »
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: PureLove on January 02, 2011, 10:12:07 PM
Quote from: "TouchedByAnAngel"
How could they mess up the year like that? I don't think they did it by accident! Perhaps this was Tito's way of telling us that 2011 is going to be like V's 2020? Are we to get ready for V's (MJ's) final act?!

I thought the same. It can be his way to say 2011 is going to be V's 2020. And you know what? 2011  2+1+1=4  2020 2+2=4  :)
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: anewfan on January 02, 2011, 10:29:17 PM
Was anybody else being randomly redirected to a blank Google page while on that Peach site? It kept happening to me. It probably doesn't mean anything...but it was annoying.
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: PureLove on January 02, 2011, 10:31:05 PM
Quote from: "anewfan"
Was anybody else being randomly redirected to a blank Google page while on that Peach site? It kept happening to me. It probably doesn't mean anything...but it was annoying.

yeah it happens to me too everytime I get into the page. weird.
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: ForstAMoon on January 03, 2011, 02:27:44 AM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "anewfan"
Was anybody else being randomly redirected to a blank Google page while on that Peach site? It kept happening to me. It probably doesn't mean anything...but it was annoying.

yeah it happens to me too everytime I get into the page. weird.

Same here.

But I did some research yesterday on the green banner with "Have a great 2020!". Seems like similar banner with google pop-up appeared in the past (2009) on some other websites. It is not there any longer but I found some forums that this thing was discussed  :?  :?  :?  

e.g. one site
http://www.schecterguitars.com/ (http://www.schecterguitars.com/)
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: ForstAMoon on January 03, 2011, 05:36:53 AM
Quote from: "ForstAMoon"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "anewfan"
Was anybody else being randomly redirected to a blank Google page while on that Peach site? It kept happening to me. It probably doesn't mean anything...but it was annoying.

yeah it happens to me too everytime I get into the page. weird.

Same here.

But I did some research yesterday on the green banner with "Have a great 2020!". Seems like similar banner with google pop-up appeared in the past (2009) on some other websites. It is not there any longer but I found some forums that this thing was discussed  :?  :?  :?  

e.g. one site
http://www.schecterguitars.com/ (http://www.schecterguitars.com/)

Here are two screen shots from forums, where the green banner "have a great 2020" with google pop up was discussed

(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/haveagreat-2.jpg)

(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/haveagreat2-1.jpg)
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: breakodawn on January 04, 2011, 07:19:36 AM
Also if you reverse the 2020...it becomes 02 02 perhaps a reference to where this all began with Michaels announcement in London and also V's takeover of the Breaking The News station.My thoughts on this.I could be retching though.
Also the movie was released on the same day that Michael closes Neverland.The 17th March 2006.It was meant to be released in 2005, on the 4th November 2005,but held over until 2006,being opening night in the USA 17th March 2006.
http://www.icv2.com/articles/home/7389.html (http://www.icv2.com/articles/home/7389.html)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0434409/releaseinfo (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0434409/releaseinfo)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188181,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188181,00.html)
So many coincidences in this movie.
Cheers and Happy New Year to all.
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: Its her on January 16, 2011, 02:58:55 PM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Portman's 'Vendetta' To Keep London Explosion Storylines
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0574625/news?year=2005 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0574625/news?year=2005)

Portman's 'Vendetta' To Keep London Explosion Storylines

25 July 2005 | WENN | See recent WENN news »

Producers of Natalie Portman's forthcoming film V For Vendetta have refused to edit out scenes of bombings on the London Underground train network, despite the recent terrorist attacks in the British capital. Fifty-five people were killed and over 700 injured when a double-decker bus and three trains were blown apart by suicide bombers on July 7. Last week, one person was injured during four failed terror attacks on different underground railway lines and a bus in east London. In V For Vendetta, a futuristic London is the target of a terrorist attacks and sees the tube lines destroyed by bombings. Executive producer Joel Silver says, "It's a great time for this movie. It's a controversial film and it's a controversial time. It's going to make people think." Fellow producer David Lloyd adds, "In terms of what happened in London it's important to try and understand what leads people to terrorism. There should be lots of movies made about terrorists." Director James McTiegue explains, "Terrorism is one of those themes that never really goes away." »


Berlinale Adds Competitors

19 January 2006 | Studio Briefing - Film News | See recent Studio Briefing - Film News news »

Organizers of the 56th annual Berlin International Film Festival -- the Berlinale -- have announced the titles of 14 additional entries in this year's competition. Nine films had previously been announced, and three more films will be added before the festival opens on Feb. 9. Among U.S. films selected for the competition on Wednesday are Robert Altman's A Prairie Home Companion, starring Meryl Streep, Lily Tomlin, Woody Harrelson, Kevin Kline and John C. Reilly; and Michael Winterbottom's documentary/drama The Road to Guantanamo. Among films screening out of the competition will be Bennett Miller's Capote, starring Philip Seymour Hoffman as writer Truman Capote, and James McTeigue's V for Vendetta, written by the Wachowski brothers. »


Are we certain that these are not the "Watch Outski" Brothers?  :lol:
Of course MJ had some hand in the writing of this movie.

I also found it interesting that John Hurt, who was the good guy/victim in a similar movie about corruption in government--1984--played a character who had a job erasing and re-writing  :shock:  :shock: history in that film( :!: ), and in "V" he plays the opposite, a bad guy, for the dark side.

That "feels" like MJ to me (getting Hurt for the part). It ties the two evils together, subconsciously. Sheesh, I almost forgot! John Hurt also played John Merrick in The Elephant Man movie! (another tie to MJ 8-) )

Lastly, 2+2 IS 4. No matter the pressure, no matter what things look like, Never let anyone convince you otherwise, or muddy the Truth for you. :)
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: Its her on January 16, 2011, 03:23:06 PM
Sorry :oops: , I meant to say, 2+2 is 4, despite the logic of TPTB in the movie 1984. I meant to reference that movie, here, as that was the point: brainwashing the public to believe any ridiculous nonsensical thing they wanted, even if it doesn't add up. :x
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: ignisaeternus on January 17, 2011, 01:38:06 AM
I finally watched V for Vendetta and I was blown away.  I had read about the similarities and parallels before, but when I watched it, it really blew my mind (no pun intended).  I also wondered if Michael had a hand in writing it- I mean, seriously, it is just too obvious and I cannot believe in coincidences anymore.  

Also, the recent youtube video Michael's Vendetta - where the recent interview the children gave to Oprah is tied in really, really convinces me (as if I was not already).  From Paris mentioning having watched fireworks from the roof of their home in Vegas, to the French Toast/buttertoast parallel with V- and Michael being revealed as cooks.

Furthermore- having looked for clues in the Hold My Hand video today, I noticed the grand piano in V's house (there is a grand piano very prominent in HOld My Hand).  Also, we have the image of the rose on the bed in V when one of the "victims" is found and it seems to have a glow- just like the rose on the bed (with a glow) in Hold My Hand.
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: ignisaeternus on January 17, 2011, 01:54:47 PM
Something else I noticed this morning when watching the dvd for Dangerous Tour  from Bucharest in connection to V:

What stood out was the fencing shirt Michael wore for about the first half of the concert.  In V- there is a fencing scene where V talks about The Count of Monte Christo - another story with a strong vengeance theme.  In the end, Evey again refers to Edmond Dantes (the main character taking his vengeance)- when she says "He [V] was Edmond Dantès, and he was my father, and my mother, my brother, my friend. He was you, and me. He was all of us..”
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: Grace on January 17, 2011, 05:12:19 PM
There seems to be a link between Michael and the Wachowski brothers.

Quote
On 17 March 2006 Warner Brothers released a feature-film adaptation of V for Vendetta, directed by James McTeigue (first assistant director on The Matrix films) from a screenplay by the Wachowski brothers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_for_Vendetta

Quote
Prior to working in the film industry, the Wachowskis wrote comic books for Marvel Comics' Razorline imprint
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wachowski_brothers

Quote
From trips to the comic shop to a collection of some of the most impressive comics-related memorabilia around, Jackson made no secret of his affinity for comics -- going so far as to almost buy Marvel Comics in the late 1990s.
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/06/25/rip-michael-jackson-comic-book-fan-collector-and-almost-the-owner-of-marvel-comics/
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: voiceforthesilent on January 17, 2011, 05:31:48 PM
Quote from: "Grace"
There seems to be a link between Michael and the Wachowski brothers.

Quote
On 17 March 2006 Warner Brothers released a feature-film adaptation of V for Vendetta, directed by James McTeigue (first assistant director on The Matrix films) from a screenplay by the Wachowski brothers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_for_Vendetta

Quote
Prior to working in the film industry, the Wachowskis wrote comic books for Marvel Comics' Razorline imprint
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wachowski_brothers

Quote
From trips to the comic shop to a collection of some of the most impressive comics-related memorabilia around, Jackson made no secret of his affinity for comics -- going so far as to almost buy Marvel Comics in the late 1990s.
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/06/25/rip-michael-jackson-comic-book-fan-collector-and-almost-the-owner-of-marvel-comics/


Wow - very interesting connection.

about the 2020 banner...I wonder if Google ever came out with a valid explanation as to why it would show up on various sites?
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: voiceforthesilent on January 17, 2011, 08:05:29 PM
Since we're posting videos about "V" - I thought I'd add this one as it has some current information not in the other two.

http://www.youtube.com/user/21311KW#p/u/8/Ku4LN88CrQ8 (http://www.youtube.com/user/21311KW#p/u/8/Ku4LN88CrQ8)
Title: Re: More V for Vendetta
Post by: ignisaeternus on January 18, 2011, 07:30:34 PM
Something just stood out watching this:

"I'll see you in July."

When do we have fireworks?

July.

Just saying.   ;)
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