Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => After June 25, 2009 => The Funeral, The Body & Forest Lawn => Topic started by: darkchild on September 17, 2012, 01:42:32 AM

Title: MJ Forest Lawn Document
Post by: darkchild on September 17, 2012, 01:42:32 AM
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Thanks LAZ 4 copy of bill 2 Jacksons from Forest Lawn-NO charges 4 refrigeration+embalming+care & prep-Practically no mortuary charges at all. ONLY charges R 4 the show and storage that remains empty. Forest Lawn was only the stage for the pretend private ceremony & burial ceremony-still no name on grave and not listed in FL database.

Furthermore, anyone gullible enough to beLIEve the lame excuse no name on grave is due to "fear of someone stealing MJ's body" is not thinking logically. The Jacksons told the world MJ was buried at FL and not even a window to Holly Terrace has been broken signalling the need 4 extra protection.

Today's technology has steel re-enforced cement, so that no one can ever steal a grave/crypt if the desire was there to do so. An armed security guard with a motion sensor would also keep a space safe. It's just ridiculous to believe such foolishness!

MJ is ALIVE!

From the producer of the jaw-dropping documentary "Alive! Is Michael Jackson Really Dead?" Netflix and the author of the EmovieBook "Pseudocide Did Michael Jackson Fake His Death To Save His Life?" amazon.com

www.MichaelJacksonINsider.com
Title: Re: MJ Forest Lawn Document
Post by: Truth_or_Dare on September 17, 2012, 06:08:21 AM
This can only mean 2 things: either he ( or whoever died that day) was buried somewhere esle or he's ALIVE  :moonwalk_: I like the second best.
And it makes more sense.
Why would the family do this to his fans who've been there for him all this time? Fans that MJ himself loves so much. It would not be fair to them at all to bury him somewhere where the fans can't pay their respects.
Title: Re: MJ Forest Lawn Document
Post by: hesouttamylife on September 17, 2012, 07:35:17 AM
Where did you find that information  :abouttime:  I am so very glad that you posted this because I had a run in with an associate (once friend - we have parted ways because of Michael Jackson. Go figure  :icon_rolleyes:)  over the weekend trying to convince her that Michael Jackson would NOT, and I repeat WOULD NOT be entombed anywhere for this amount of time with no name on his final resting place.  There is no way that Forest Lawn would not be charging them a fee for services.  No way!  So this kInd of seals it in stone "pun intended"  :thjajaja121:  Bang, bang the witch is dead, the witch is dead.  If you have a link please post it.  I would love to shove it down her throat  :thjajaja121:
Title: Re: MJ Forest Lawn Document
Post by: MaryK on September 17, 2012, 09:51:51 AM
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Where did you find that information  :abouttime:  I am so very glad that you posted this because I had a run in with an associate (once friend - we have parted ways because of Michael Jackson. Go figure  :icon_rolleyes:)  over the weekend trying to convince her that Michael Jackson would NOT, and I repeat WOULD NOT be entombed anywhere for this amount of time with no name on his final resting place.  There is no way that Forest Lawn would not be charging them a fee for services.  No way!  So this kInd of seals it in stone "pun intended"  :thjajaja121:  Bang, bang the witch is dead, the witch is dead.  If you have a link please post it.  I would love to shove it down her throat  :thjajaja121:

It´s from Pearl Jr.´s Twitter:

http://twitpic.com/aviv6y (http://twitpic.com/aviv6y)
Title: Re: MJ Forest Lawn Document
Post by: hesouttamylife on September 17, 2012, 06:29:59 PM
http://www.radaronline.com/sites/default/files/Michael%20Jackson%20Funeral.pdf (http://www.radaronline.com/sites/default/files/Michael%20Jackson%20Funeral.pdf)   :icon_rolleyes:  Here is the whole pdf document.  See page  15 for the itemization Pearl screenshot.  I would think logically from reading all of this that if Michael had been “dead" that long, he would have already been embalmed, long ago had secured a place to be refrigerated, blah, blah, blah.  That one page is misleading and one of the reasons I don’t particularly rely on Pearl’s “facts”.  All Forest Lawn needed to charge for was the crypt, security and other incidentals, at their facility which is basically for safe keeping the remains.  She should of course know that  :animal0017:
Title: Re: MJ Forest Lawn Document
Post by: scorpionchik on September 17, 2012, 07:45:52 PM
This is all we still have over there

http://www.seeing-stars.com/ImagePages/MichaelJacksonGravePhoto.shtml

Title: Re: MJ Forest Lawn Document
Post by: hesouttamylife on September 17, 2012, 07:58:41 PM
Exactly @Scorp - We’ve got a box, some beautifully stained windows, and no name to mark that anyone is resting there.  What they are likely paying for is to keep up appearances.  That’s it!  Nothing more and nothing less.
Title: Re: MJ Forest Lawn Document
Post by: suspicious mind on September 18, 2012, 10:21:16 AM
whether still on this earth or gone from it this place at forest lawn is just for show, a place for the fans. jmo
Title: Re: MJ Forest Lawn Document
Post by: CokeCat on September 18, 2012, 03:19:01 PM
@hesouttamylife:

thanks for posting the whole document, although its not very amusing.  ::)

Thats why I don't trust a word Pearl says or writes, she's just tryin to cash in by fooling people.  :icon_exclaim:

Love,

the CokeCat  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: MJ Forest Lawn Document
Post by: blankie on October 18, 2012, 04:22:22 PM
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Exactly @Scorp - We’ve got a box, some beautifully stained windows, and no name to mark that anyone is resting there.  What they are likely paying for is to keep up appearances.  That’s it!  Nothing more and nothing less.


Agree..  is absolutely anonymous....   :icon_e_wink: :icon_e_wink: .... of course !!  :icon_e_wink:
Title: Re: MJ Forest Lawn Document
Post by: jujubii on October 18, 2012, 08:43:03 PM
It doesn't matter who posted it or how unreliable the poster may or may not be.

The fact is this document right in front of you, the funeral/Forest Lawn documentation,  IS an official document, without a doubt.
What it states is what the family ordered for Michael. Care of the body, funeral, all of that.


This document DOES state and/or indicate the following:

-There are NO charges for refrigeration, embalming and care/preparation.


-There ARE charges for 'basic services and facilities' from Forest Lawn, which are:
--the 'interment property/park', the exact sarcophagus (ugh, creepy), at, as we know, Holly Terrace.
--Graveside service, casket coach, flower van. You know, the fancy funeral stuff we saw.
-Endowment Care- Property (my guess is this is the care of the property)
-Interment and recording burial: basically saying "Yes, the dead person is buried HERE. (shows exactly where)"
The stuff that's for show.



In other words, the charges for the MOST IMPORTANT, and FIRST and foremost procedures: the tending to the BODY...
Are not present, and were most likely not performed. (Because there was no body. That's what this document keeps screaming at me due to the lack of crucial information, i.e. the presence of work done on a dead body.)

It's eerily empty.
Why are there so mny empty lines and spaces?...



But the issue here that I see is.. On page 21, suddenly there appear the $450 'embalming' charge, $250 'care and prep'.... no refrigeration charge (so wait, even if they care, prep and embalm the body, they just leave it in a warm ditch or something? makes no sense)...


How to explain the sudden appearance there on page 21, but absence on page 15?...
Title: Re: MJ Forest Lawn Document
Post by: bugsy on October 18, 2012, 08:50:36 PM
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How to explain the sudden appearance there on page 21, but absence on page 15?...

I would guess that it was two invoices, since the first invoice on page 21 was already written they didn't put it on the second invoice, because that could lead to double charging?
Title: Re: MJ Forest Lawn Document
Post by: jujubii on October 18, 2012, 09:06:23 PM
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How to explain the sudden appearance there on page 21, but absence on page 15?...

I would guess that it was two invoices, since the first invoice on page 21 was already written they didn't put it on the second invoice, because that could lead to double charging?


How could they double charge for something they didn't charge for first?

I wish I knew which document came first chronologically to give me a better idea of what sort of conclusion I can make...
Title: Re: MJ Forest Lawn Document
Post by: bugsy on October 18, 2012, 09:28:43 PM
Well the one on page 21 would have been before the memorial I would presume since there is flowers and flowers van, casket coach on the same invoice... where as the one on page 15 is related to the 3rd September funeral service. I would have to re read the whole thing again, but I think page 21 items were paid up but they added the invoice to the paper work as to get reimbursement? where as page 15 they needed it paid to forest lawn not reinbursement and so it would come first in the document order.. that's only my understanding from memory from the actual documents (I have only went back and looked at the two invoices not the whole thing, will do so when get some time to do it)

By double charge I mean, if they have already paid the invoice on page 21 and it's been included also in page 15 then they would be charged again to pay it as the records in the business would show a certain amount unpaid due to an invoice being written up with the repeated costs of page 21.


Page 37 of the PDF gives dates of the different charges.. the invoice on page "21" is from July, the page "15" is from August

going through the invoice on page 21....

where it says misc mortuary services... in brackets.. what does any else read? does it say (as of 17/02/09)? or 07/07/09?.. it's hard to see clearly for me and what does that mean? that a security service for forest lawn was implemented on that date or does it mean it's a private charge to the Jackson's specifically for security for Michael? and I'm just assuming it says Security service....
Title: Re: MJ Forest Lawn Document
Post by: jujubii on October 18, 2012, 10:14:27 PM
Huh. I'm still lost, but... okay, thanks for that. <3 <3


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going through the invoice on page 21....

where it says misc mortuary services... in brackets.. what does any else read? does it say (as of 17/02/09)? or 07/07/09?.. it's hard to see clearly for me and what does that mean? that a security service for forest lawn was implemented on that date or does it mean it's a private charge to the Jackson's specifically for security for Michael? and I'm just assuming it says Security service....


That (very small!) print indeed says 'Security Service As of'... but the date IS hard to read.
Clearly a '2' in there (to my eyes anyway), so most likely 7/02/09.
17/02/09 = February 17, 2009...
Which obviously was a time when NONE of this was needed.


...Unless this document was prepared WAY BACK at the time and the hoax was already brewing crazy...
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