We're playing those mind games together
Are we players in this game of life or are we being the ones played?
Why do they infiltrate among us, playing the role of "fans" and "beLIEvers"?YES...to all of the above. "THEY" are watching too.
Could they be "planted" among us by TPTB? or by the media??
Did they catch up on our investigations?? Are they spying on us?
Do they want to get info from us? Or MISINFORM us?? Lead us the wrong way??
[...] For me, there is safety here, as Souza and her mods run this house with all diligence and proficiency. And when questionable behavior arises, they are on to it rather swiftly. It makes me feel safe as I should do , cause this is like home to me, I have been a virtual resident here for just about 3 years. [...]Tks for your comment RK.
On The one hand we have MJ-fakers, but on the other hand there are also those who play pretend to be fans or beLIEvers!!!
To tell you the truth: I feel pitty for the ones that fall in the 1st category, but I feel rather scared about the second category!!
Who are these people??
Why do they infiltrate among us, playing the role of "fans" and "beLIEvers"?
Could they be "planted" among us by TPTB? or by the media??
Did they catch up on our investigations?? Are they spying on us?
Do they want to get info from us? Or MISINFORM us?? Lead us the wrong way??
WHY ARE THERE SO MANY FAKES AROUND US???
Really...can't we trust anyone anymore???
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We're playing those mind games together
Are we players in this game of life or are we being the ones played?
pushing the barriers planting seeds...
This are their newest jokes:
Message From Michael Jackson 2012 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/oQT7UL60M_8)
Michael Jackson - "Loves Conrad Murray" May 26, 2009 RECORDED - YouTube (http://youtu.be/-lAIzRqJMZ8)
They also say that Bruce Jackson is Michael Jackson (search for Bruce Jackson songs on youtube). For me he does not sound like Michael.
"They"= fake Michael (kfcmane) and helper (appleheadlives=Jorden). The second video I don't know whether Jorden has made it but he is in the commentors, so he must be involve.
:WTF: Soon this chat will be a pornclub with minors. Shame the esatate is doing nothing about this. The fake Michael shows in slomo how Michael grabs his crotch and that is how he starts in the room with the female guests. There are children here too ! (under 15)
Hi Wishy! :icon_e_smile: Thanks for those links on MagicEye, the first time I've read about this...[...]
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Indeed....great posts here about fakers. I love this picture you have here Sim......it fascinates me to no end. Why just one Macaulay Culkin? And that one MJ with almost a priestly look about him? Strange for sure, but really awesome.
Yeah....I have always wondered about the the true numbers of the forum...I think so too!
non-fakers, real people here.
I have felt for a along time, that number is actually fairly small.
@Simpa.... I think "IMissYouAll09 is the impersonator used for the mugshot, what do you think??I don't know if "IMissYouAll09" was used or not... But I think that Michael has been using doubles for years to trick and escape from the harassing paparazzi. I wouldn't be surprised if in the end, we will have his confirmation that he has used doubles for this hoax too.
So if there are so many fakers on line, is it possible that Front is a faker and his handwritten notes were not real?? so no mini-BAM :-\
@Simpa...I appreciate your explanation but in one of the videos you have posted, it says that we shouldn't believe Michael's children will appear on twitter but I am reading and studying their tweets everyday, I have verified that their twitter accounts are real as they have the blue sign of "verified".You're talking about this video : *READ INFO* The posers/fakers involving Michael Jackson's kids Prince, Paris and Blanket Jackson - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWQBRYefwJ8&feature=player_embedded)
Does anybody see the irony in Michael being a fake Michael? We have talked about him "using" impersonators in this hoax......I suppose I need to stop and really think about that statement, lol. In what sense is he truly "using" an impersonator. Is it an impersonator like we think...another guy just dressed like him? Or.......is it the notion of an impersonator being used by Michael himself......he could be is his own best impersonator and nobody would be the wiser. I remember we have talked about him being his own best double...but did he really do that? I think someone here a long time ago, said something to the affect that Michael could probably walk out in public and nobody would believe it's him, because to the world, MJ is dead. LOL......it would seem very MJ.......Ugg.....my head hurts!
However, the true irony comes in thinking about the world's most impersonated entertainer, now doing his own impersonation of himself. Michael doing MJ as Mike sort of thing..........OK BeTheChange....where are ya girl.....?
I need those filberts and wine.......the merlot keeps taunting me :Pulling_hair: :icon_lol:
All I can do is laugh at times......just go with it. It will be OK....won't it :icon_eek: :suspect: :icon_lol:
Yes it will......
Blessings Always
*I hope I wasn't too confusing, lol.........
yeah there are fakes but look - we somehow KNOW they are fakes. We follow some of them out of curiosity or for fun.@Simpa...I appreciate your explanation but in one of the videos you have posted, it says that we shouldn't believe Michael's children will appear on twitter but I am reading and studying their tweets everyday, I have verified that their twitter accounts are real as they have the blue sign of "verified".You're talking about this video : *READ INFO* The posers/fakers involving Michael Jackson's kids Prince, Paris and Blanket Jackson - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWQBRYefwJ8&feature=player_embedded)
Check the date, it was posted in January 2010 on YT. Since that date, the family accounts have been verified , at least Paris's twitter account has been verified by Paris and Latoya in a video if I can remember well. Nevertheless, what is said in that video ^^ remains true! there are still so many fakers out there on twitter, YT, FB pretending to be Paris or other family members.
@Diggyon.... Why are you reading my mind? I was gonna post exactly that, what if all the Michaels in This is it are real Michael pretending be his own impersonators? and I go farther than that, what if in "Michael Album" all the songs are sang by Michael but impersonating his own voice?Yeah! and I think you're a fake beLIEver ! oupsyyy :icon_e_surprised: :michael_jackson-1135:
I think this could be "THE KEY OF THIS HOAX" :michael_jackson-1135:
@Diggyon.... Why are you reading my mind? I was gonna post exactly that, what if all the Michaels in This is it are real Michael pretending be his own impersonators? and I go farther than that, what if in "Michael Album" all the songs are sang by Michael but impersonating his own voice? I think this could be "THE KEY OF THIS HOAX" :michael_jackson-1135:
Does anybody see the irony in Michael being a fake Michael? We have talked about him "using" impersonators in this hoax......I suppose I need to stop and really think about that statement, lol. In what sense is he truly "using" an impersonator. Is it an impersonator like we think...another guy just dressed like him? Or.......is it the notion of an impersonator being used by Michael himself......he could be is his own best impersonator and nobody would be the wiser. I remember we have talked about him being his own best double...but did he really do that? I think someone here a long time ago, said something to the affect that Michael could probably walk out in public and nobody would believe it's him, because to the world, MJ is dead. LOL......it would seem very MJ.......Ugg.....my head hurts!
However, the true irony comes in thinking about the world's most impersonated entertainer, now doing his own impersonation of himself. Michael doing MJ as Mike sort of thing..........OK BeTheChange....where are ya girl.....?
I need those filberts and wine.......the merlot keeps taunting me :Pulling_hair: :icon_lol:
All I can do is laugh at times......just go with it. It will be OK....won't it :icon_eek: :suspect: :icon_lol:
Yes it will......
Blessings Always
*I hope I wasn't too confusing, lol.........
Yes wishingstar, I totally agree. Your statement leads me to another thought: What if all the doubles in "This is it" were Michael himself?
We have this theory now that Michael played his own double at the O2 conference. I have watched "This is it" one more time and I must admit that I couldn't recognize the doubles from real MJ! It's hard to know whether they are Michael himself playing doubles or doubles playing Michael!!!!! SOOOOOOOOOOOOO confused !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
However, where did Souza come up with that handwritten note with the word "momment" on it? It's not the first time she's popped up with evidence like that - so maybe she's more in the know than we realize and that is why this forum was chosen by MJ.
@Diggyon.... Why are you reading my mind? I was gonna post exactly that, what if all the Michaels in This is it are real Michael pretending be his own impersonators? and I go farther than that, what if in "Michael Album" all the songs are sang by Michael but impersonating his own voice? I think this could be "THE KEY OF THIS HOAX"Tink explained in the Tupac hologram thread how they were able to use his voice patterns to make him say new words. So surely they can alter MJ’s voice to sound just like Jason Malachi’s. I think 'Michael' is all MJ.
@voiceforthesilent: There are quite a few links out there to this particular note with "momment" in it.agree!! :penguin:
(Which btw is of no importance for me. I think the Front-notes are legitimate).
It wasn’t me, it was MaryK Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=21825.msg397881#msg397881)
Also Simpa and Bec, TS has twice redirected to Front’s post. If Front’s a fake, then so is TS.
The difficulty level for TS and Front and Back, all being fakes but the same person, exponentially makes this faker/troll an AMAZING genius!
Maybe he had doubles, and used himself, and also dressed himself as one of the doubles.
That's totally GENIUS. No one can figure anything out. He can also walk around dressed like a double
or come back and no one would be sure who it is.
Masks, glasses,hats and gloves are just perfect also. There are soooo many who try to copy it.
Smart, Smart, Smart !!!!
And maybe Jim Carey played a double for Michael. Maybe announcing the concerts ?
I don't know because I didn't think he was that thin ???? Maybe it was Michael acting like a double.
Maybe it was just another double ? Maybe it was him but it didn't seem like him ??????
This is "The Greatest Show on Earth".
Does anybody see the irony in Michael being a fake Michael? We have talked about him "using" impersonators in this hoax......I suppose I need to stop and really think about that statement, lol. In what sense is he truly "using" an impersonator. Is it an impersonator like we think...another guy just dressed like him? Or.......is it the notion of an impersonator being used by Michael himself......he could be is his own best impersonator and nobody would be the wiser. I remember we have talked about him being his own best double...but did he really do that? I think someone here a long time ago, said something to the affect that Michael could probably walk out in public and nobody would believe it's him, because to the world, MJ is dead. LOL......it would seem very MJ.......Ugg.....my head hurts!
However, the true irony comes in thinking about the world's most impersonated entertainer, now doing his own impersonation of himself. Michael doing MJ as Mike sort of thing..........OK BeTheChange....where are ya girl.....?
I need those filberts and wine.......the merlot keeps taunting me :Pulling_hair: :icon_lol:
All I can do is laugh at times......just go with it. It will be OK....won't it :icon_eek: :suspect: :icon_lol:
Yes it will......
Blessings Always
*I hope I wasn't too confusing, lol.........
[....]oohh yeahhh !!!! :th_bravo:
as to those endless appearances of some officially non-doubles who behave in the worst traditions
of reverse psychology and, trying to convince us they are not MJ, convince us in the opposite --
it's just a monotonous, non-creative and boring circus. and I sincere hope this is not MJ is having
such a desperate genre crisis and lack of taste, but just some obsessed and non-original people,
whose own life in not bright enough.
(Sure, I don't mean sweet guys like Pablo, 7 Leachims, TMA, Mjviva, PeterPanPYT and so on, lol.)
It wasn’t me, it was MaryK Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=21825.msg397881#msg397881)
Also Simpa and Bec, TS has twice redirected to Front’s post. If Front’s a fake, then so is TS.
The difficulty level for TS and Front and Back, all being fakes but the same person, exponentially makes this faker/troll an AMAZING genius!
hesouttamylife, this is the phonecall where MJ switches to his other voice.
Michael Jackson Prank CALL - Fake Akon Calls up "by Ralphige - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIvTCIoVyAg)
sweetsunsetwithMJQuote@Diggyon.... Why are you reading my mind? I was gonna post exactly that, what if all the Michaels in This is it are real Michael pretending be his own impersonators? and I go farther than that, what if in "Michael Album" all the songs are sang by Michael but impersonating his own voice? I think this could be "THE KEY OF THIS HOAX"Tink explained in the Tupac hologram thread how they were able to use his voice patterns to make him say new words. So surely they can alter MJ’s voice to sound just like Jason Malachi’s. I think 'Michael' is all MJ.
I also don't think MJ would give a KEY role of announcing the 02 concerts to an impersonator/double. I think doubles are just used for filler/stunts/minor supporting roles. Every inch of MJ at 02 has been annalyzed :icon_lol: and he matches MJ 100% IMO!
(http://oi43.tinypic.com/nx1jma.jpg)cool 8)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/nx1jmaypy.png)@Finfin: ;D ;D (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Surpris/o_stupid.gif) tks for sharing! :bearhug:
Does anybody see the irony in Michael being a fake Michael? We have talked about him "using" impersonators in this hoax......I suppose I need to stop and really think about that statement, lol. In what sense is he truly "using" an impersonator. Is it an impersonator like we think...another guy just dressed like him? Or.......is it the notion of an impersonator being used by Michael himself......he could be is his own best impersonator and nobody would be the wiser. I remember we have talked about him being his own best double...but did he really do that? I think someone here a long time ago, said something to the affect that Michael could probably walk out in public and nobody would believe it's him, because to the world, MJ is dead. LOL......it would seem very MJ.......Ugg.....my head hurts!You are confusing :icon_lol: But only because I think you're not far from the reality....which is confusing ! :icon_lol: on purpose! :icon_albino: :icon_e_biggrin:
However, the true irony comes in thinking about the world's most impersonated entertainer, now doing his own impersonation of himself. Michael doing MJ as Mike sort of thing..........OK BeTheChange....where are ya girl.....?
I need those filberts and wine.......the merlot keeps taunting me :Pulling_hair: :icon_lol:
All I can do is laugh at times......just go with it. It will be OK....won't it :icon_eek: :suspect: :icon_lol:
Yes it will......
Blessings Always
*I hope I wasn't too confusing, lol.........
oh, must say, the hoax insiders became soooo bold lately!the end is coming . . . :michael-jackson:
love it ; )
@Genevieve: (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Messages/X_HELL~1.GIF):icon_e_biggrin: I agree with you Genevieve, that Front's just being straightforward, giving us encouragement, and we're the ones torturing ourselves with doubts. (http://www.defence.pk/forums/images/smilies/cute/no.gif)
Who decided how to spell the words that make up the English Language?Who decided how to spell the words that make up the English Language (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_decided_how_to_spell_the_words_that_make_up_the_English_Language)
Answer:
There are no committees of academics, sitting in ivory towers in Oxford, Paris, Rome or Princeton, or anywhere else, entrusted with a final decision on whether a word is an acceptable, proper, or real, word. While there have been regular attempts worldwide to control language, to keep it 'pure', whatever that means, these attempts have never worked because, ultimately, the speakers of a language decide, and have the final say, on which words they consider to be words.
You decide which words are really words.
You and I everyone else using any language decide what its words mean, how they are pronounced and how they are spelled. You decide this simply by using those words: it's that simple.
When a word is used often enough, and by enough people, it'll be included in a dictionary. The contributors to, or publishers of, that dictionary first research how the word is spelled and pronounced, and how it is used, as well as where it came from and how it came to be used in its current form. This research involves finding instances of that word's usage in print and speech and can't be hurried: researchers don't just sit in in an office thinking a lot; they must get out and listen to the way people communicate.
Their research also applies to words which have been used for a long time but which have gained new meanings, or had their previous meanings altered.
Some words might've come into a language centuries ago with one meaning and then gained very different meanings at different times, without changing their spelling or pronunciation. Others change spelling or pronunciation, sometimes becoming nearly unrecognizable as the word which first entered the language. Have a look at the journey of the word 'nice' through the English language in the past seven centuries at the Online Etymology Dictionary, at the link below.
A word used in more than one way, but in similar senses, might be said or spelled differently depending on its usage; for example: 'He read a book'; 'He says he will read a book'. A word might also be pronounced differently in different geographical areas.
All this must be researched before a word, or changes to the definition of a word or to the description of its usage, is considered for inclusion in a reputable dictionary. Once this is done and the word has earned its place in a dictionary, the compilers of that dictionary must decided how to write its entry: how to define, describe and track its history. Then, eventually the word has its official place in the language.
But, before all this research and writing happens, the people - you and me - using the language have already decided how to spell, use, and pronounce the word. If a word isn't, or hasn't been, used by people speaking a language, it isn't a word in that language. We are the people who the word-technicians and analysts look to in order to discover which words are really words.
And once a word has gained sufficient popular or specialized usage to rate its inclusion in a dictionary, it will stay there forever, even if we stop using it. Once it's no longer popularly used it might be listed as 'archaic', or 'obsolete', or given some other description to indicate it isn't used in everyday speech. If it slips out of general usage and but it's usage continues in, say, a relatively small community, a little village or a tiny island, this will be reflected in revised dictionary entries.
When words alter their spelling and pronunciation between localities, this is explained in reputable dictionaries: many English words are listed to reflect differences between, for example, Australian, Canadian, New Zealand, South African, UK and US usage. Dutch, French, Italian and Spanish are other examples of widely differing usage of the same language. It just depends on where you live: a person speaking Spanish in Africa, the Andes or Mexico speak, spell and pronounce it very differently to a person speaking Spanish in Spain, and within Spain - as in all other countries - there are regional languages which can be incomprehensible to Spaniards from other areas.
Lexicology:
A person whose profession is researching - studying - words is called a lexicologist; a person writing, compiling, or editing a dictionary, is called a lexicographer - inevitably they're the same person - 'ologist' means they're competent in a particular field of study; 'ographer' means they write about their particular field of competence.
These two words, lexicologist and lexicographer, are used interchangeably. I've used them in the way I have because that's my personal preference - it seems more logical to me; it feels right - the ultimate test of usage. This doesn't mean someone using the words the other way round is less, or more, correct than I am; it means two words which once had quite separate meanings now have, through usage, had the distinction between their meanings blurred. This is an example of how we change the language by the way we use it. I think it's a great thing, that we cannot be denied our complete, inalienable power over our own language!
oh, must say, the hoax insiders became soooo bold lately!the end is coming . . . :michael-jackson:
love it ; )
This song's for you, SimPatty, Foreigner's Head Games:Thank you Tink! :bearhug:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63DL0QG7Ho4[/youtube]
Does anybody see the irony in Michael being a fake Michael? We have talked about him "using" impersonators in this hoax......I suppose I need to stop and really think about that statement, lol. In what sense is he truly "using" an impersonator. Is it an impersonator like we think...another guy just dressed like him? Or.......is it the notion of an impersonator being used by Michael himself......he could be is his own best impersonator and nobody would be the wiser. I remember we have talked about him being his own best double...but did he really do that? I think someone here a long time ago, said something to the affect that Michael could probably walk out in public and nobody would believe it's him, because to the world, MJ is dead. LOL......it would seem very MJ.......Ugg.....my head hurts!
However, the true irony comes in thinking about the world's most impersonated entertainer, now doing his own impersonation of himself. Michael doing MJ as Mike sort of thing..........OK BeTheChange....where are ya girl.....?
I need those filberts and wine.......the merlot keeps taunting me :Pulling_hair: :icon_lol:
All I can do is laugh at times......just go with it. It will be OK....won't it :icon_eek: :suspect: :icon_lol:
Yes it will......
Blessings Always
*I hope I wasn't too confusing, lol.........
Here I am! And I come bearing gifts :woohoo2:
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTQ622R7ra0dSd6pH2ShC4-AS3YBUBtloPO3MydRyyXwNzj_a3oX0ep8BOw)....and some (http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTahBqBoE4D8Pu30UYCF7XEzTRvGqPcml3uDE34xb8M5O5X58UJvw1_yod6)
(I think I'm gonna start drinking straight outta the bottle soon :icon_lol:)
Mind games....that should be the subtitle to this grand adventure. The master mag-mind-funker of all-time is at the helm and I'm pretty sure we've 'been had' a few times already....and are in for some more mag-funking before this shindig is through.
I believe Mike is present in all the TII scenes, including the O2 clips. Other than hoaxers, I think it was Joe who first suggested that there were impersonators in TII. That statement, I'm sure, was planned...as was just about everything else that's come our way from the family. It caused what it set out to do....cast doubt(s), raise suspicion, get people watchin' and talking....in a nutshell, it caused controversy (and we know who loves that!).
It just mirrors the discombobulation that has been caused throughout the hoax when trying to pinpoint Mike's whereabouts and doings lol. The man can't be pinned down...he's everywhere and he's nowhere :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile
But then again, all these 'mind games' were a part of Mike and his life prior to June 25th....his 'death' allowed him to take 'mind games' to a whole new level. A level that has blown me away.
Thank God for wine and filberts Wish!
:beerchug:
With L.O.V.E. always.
Well, I'll tell you, I'm not really satisfied with Pablo's explanation. I didn't think the videos you posted earlier from him, showing him clearly, looked anything like the guy in the videos looking like MJ with the mask, and dancing so superbly. Now I know nothing about this PPPYT except for the video of him saying people were thinking he sounded like MJ, way back. This is all starting to smack of the same type situation as Jason Malachi's voice singing on 'Michael'. Some of you might remember the late night silliness that went where JM was saying he was hired by Sony, then that he was hacked and more. We were dying laughing. I think MJ's up to tricks, and I don't think we should just dismiss this away so quickly. I also remember way back when we had conversations with Dave Dave, and he started getting all defensive, making snarkey remarks, and then finally pulled his account off. DD posted that goofy pic of himself with the 3 eyes, saying something about that we are living in strange interesting times. It clearly was the real DD, and not the one who interview Larry King, we know was MJ. This was way back in 2010 I think.
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/ddeye.jpg)
I think it's the same pattern all over again. Dave Dave, Jason Cupeta (Malachi), and now Pablo, and PPPYT.
And Pearl Jr. might be giving us hints. She certainly has broadcasted our site name as being associated with Pablo (Sofurgofromashes).
There is something going on... :animal0017: Number one suspect :michael-jackson:
Found this pic, isn't he cute? MJ's yanking us around like we're a yo-yo... :Crash:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bxKm5gFgQYg/TvOMpqHnmdI/AAAAAAAAAMo/Q0A6h0VbAlU/s1600/hey_mike.jpg)
ok, im kinda slow here.hi cookie, yes, LaToya has Twitter, too.
so u guys think that this tweet from mj's niece is a shout out to us? i mean the tweet is deregatory for me. but u think that at least it is a shout out to us? that they actually read this forum.
btw, i love how u guys share the tweets of the jacksons and how we relate them to the hoax:)
there are a lot of jacksons but i think the important people whose tweets we should read are jermaine, janet, the j3 (blanket does not have a twitter account, right?), maybe some of the nephews and nieces (but i observe that paris is actually close to genevieve based on their twitter activity recently). does la toya have twitter?
Confusion that leads to confusion which is totally confusing :screaming-7365: :Pulling_hair:
MJ playing his own impersonators, enigmatic talks by some like Pablo who might be Michale as well ! ! ! ! I don't know whom to believe and what to believe ! !
@ Michael
Please Mr. Jackson, have mercy on our nerves ! ! :bowdown: :bowdown:
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