Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Contradictions and all stuff that doesn't add up => Topic started by: Grace on March 29, 2012, 09:34:20 AM
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Has anybody noticed this before?
There is a helicopter at Neverland in 2003 around the time of the birthday bash that looks like Sheriff's rescue #5?
At 0:03.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbRWog8jUFs&feature=channel[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbRWog8jUFs&feature=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbRWog8jUFs&feature=channel)
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Thanks for posting Grace :)
(http://www.channelnewsasia.com/imagegallery/gallery/phpAu6qF0.jpg)
MJ's body leaves UCLA med centre in sheriff's heli
In the vid you posted the heli looks the same, and I read "sheriff" on it, odd.
Maybe for security reasons the sheriff's heli was present at Neverland. I don't know if this could be a standard security procedure for big special events in the US... :confused:
L.O.V.E.
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Guys, I have a question to pose. Who know works as Los Angeles Sheriff Dept Reserve that may have access to this Rescue Helicopter. Do this plane look familiar to anyone. Almost similar plane that "transported the body of Michael Jackson" on that fateful day. You way find a connection that maybe shocking.
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You mean Lou Ferrigno?
Here on page 11: http://lasdreserve.org/Reserve%20News/2006%20RESERVE%20NEWS%20%20APRIL.pdf (http://lasdreserve.org/Reserve%20News/2006%20RESERVE%20NEWS%20%20APRIL.pdf)
It was kind to release a LASD press statement within the number range:
http://www.lasdblog.org/Pressrelease/PR_Folder/09-178-00.pdf (http://www.lasdblog.org/Pressrelease/PR_Folder/09-178-00.pdf)
Former connections to LASD:
When Michael Jackson's production team was working on the music video "Beat It" for the "Thriller" album (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym0hZG-zNOk), they first approached LAPD to recruit real gang members for the video. The LAPD CRASH brass said, "We don't deal with gang members, except to arrest them." So it was LASD and OSS that brought and supervised the hundred or so East Coast Crips and Maravilla gang members (http://www.policemag.com/Blog/Gangs/Story/2008/09/Gangs-and-the-Projects.aspx) to make the video.
http://www.policemag.com/Blog/Gangs/Story/2010/12/LAPD-s-CRASH-vs-LASD-s-OSS.aspx (http://www.policemag.com/Blog/Gangs/Story/2010/12/LAPD-s-CRASH-vs-LASD-s-OSS.aspx)
LASD being present at a fan event at Neverland in 2003 still looks kind of strange to me.
I would have expected "invisible" private security companies doing surveillance and tactical operations for super-parties.
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What I find so interesting is that Mr. Ferrigno worked with in the early 90's. Maybe he help Michael with stamina training. Another thought to ponder, you guys remember that Martial Arts guy that was a friend of Michael. So you wonder, a bodybuilder and Martial Arts as friend. I always thought that Martial Arts deals with discipline and treating your body as temple. Cleansing the body of the negativity.
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Thanks for posting Grace :)
(http://www.channelnewsasia.com/imagegallery/gallery/phpAu6qF0.jpg)
MJ's body leaves UCLA med centre in sheriff's heli
In the vid you posted the heli looks the same, and I read "sheriff" on it, odd.
Maybe for security reasons the sheriff's heli was present at Neverland. I don't know if this could be a standard security procedure for big special events in the US... :confused:
L.O.V.E.
Ohh wow, this is definitely so interesting! ;D
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Guys do you remember the video in which it showed the body moving in the helicopter. Looking at that picture made a thought popped into my head. " Michael body was transported to Coroner". We all saw a body on the plane. Now needless to say Are we sure that was Michael body that came out of the plane. Michael body going in, but not Michael body go out. The reason why made that statement is this. Lou Ferrigno reserve LA County Sheriff, can possibly operate a helicopter. Because of Michael's Celebrity status LA County needed to use the Rescue 5 Helicopter (maybe), an extra uniform on board of the helicopter(hmmmm). Possible switch in mid-air (another hmmmmm). You would think that you would not leave the door of an helicopter open that high up in the air.(?) I am still wondering about the helicopter. Taking it from a different angle, everyone is focus on the ambulance drive, but not really paying any attention to the helicopter ride maybe briefly. I just think there is more to the picture of the helicopter.
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Guys do you remember the video in which it showed the body moving in the helicopter. Looking at that picture made a thought popped into my head. " Michael body was transported to Coroner". We all saw a body on the plane. Now needless to say Are we sure that was Michael body that came out of the plane. Michael body going in, but not Michael body go out. The reason why made that statement is this. Lou Ferrigno reserve LA County Sheriff, can possibly operate a helicopter. Because of Michael's Celebrity status LA County needed to use the Rescue 5 Helicopter (maybe), an extra uniform on board of the helicopter(hmmmm). Possible switch in mid-air (another hmmmmm). You would think that you would not leave the door of an helicopter open that high up in the air.(?) I am still wondering about the helicopter. Taking it from a different angle, everyone is focus on the ambulance drive, but not really paying any attention to the helicopter ride maybe briefly. I just think there is more to the picture of the helicopter.
I agree with you that it was strange making such a presentation of MJ in the helicopter. That's the moment I thought -why? how could they? :icon_e_confused: And the heli at neverland ... who knows, it may not be that odd for it to be there at that time.
Added 2009 image of him in there, and a video of ppl getting to see the inside of the helicopter. Don't know what else to say about it.
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/heli.jpg)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7u77Kfway0[/youtube]
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Talking about Neverland had a helicopter there is something else that Neverland had according to Jermaines book Michael also had his own Fire trucks two to be exact and Twofully manned crew? Could this also be the ones outside/inside Carolwood site on June 25th 2009? Is this all part of Michaels plan??? Have we really looked into every small detail that went on that day??? Could there be more that we have missed???? Maybe we need to go back and look again??? The Best Is Yet To Come
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its not a separate video of the helicopter, it was added to this documentary, the beginning light flashing, looks like from the hold my hand video, and this helicopter video is from the original, and just darkened down to make it look like night.
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Mindseye, thanks for sharing the 'Inside MJ heli' video, and Grace the info on the LASD, etc. connected to Beat It.
What's clear to me, is the awesome clout and might that MJ wields behind the scene. He wiggles his finger and hidden hands respond, and the public knows nothing of this.
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BTW - That helicopter was mothballed before 2009, FYI! It's only used on special occasions. :D
And yes - I definitely believe it's the same chopper, AHAH! Jackson 5 - Rescue 5, I've always thought that was the biggest hint ever!
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-Off topic-
@Tink,
who is the author of your signature´s paint?
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@Tink,
who is the author of your signature´s paint?
That would be Greg Hildebrandt, and she's called Angel of the Gods, I use to have it above my headboard as a teenager.
Today, I have a tapestry of a chocolate unicorn in its place, surrounded by black lace. Just don't go sneaking into my closet.
I've lost people in there for days.
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Thanks for the info!
I got a bit surprised when I observed the painting. Someone draw for me a very similar sketch long time ago.
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Ok guys, I found this:
Helicopter Lands At Neverland Ranch
Written by Christina Heller
Story Created: Jul 7, 2009 at 5:39 PM PDT
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Story Updated: Jul 9, 2009 at 6:00 AM PDT )
Los Olivos, CA-- KEY News has learned that two helicopters flew to Neverland Ranch late Tuesday afternoon from an unknown destination.
According to sources outside the gates of Neverland, a blue and red helicopter approached the grounds of Neverland Ranch. The blue helicopter did land at the ranch, while the second helicopter hovered above the area.
Drew Sugars with the Santa Barbara Sheriff's Department confirmed to KEY News, a helicopter did land on the grounds of Neverland Ranch Tuesday afternoon. However, Sugars said Michael Jackson's body was not on board nor were any of the Jackson family members.
Many loyal fans and media outlets from around the world believe there is still a chance Jackson could eventually be buried at Neverland.
According to the State Cemetery and Funeral Bureau, a body can be housed at a specific location without permission to bury, as long as it is stored properly.
KEY News will continue to monitor this developing story, keep it tuned to KEY NEWS at 11 for the latest details.
http://www.keyt.com/news/local/50176362.html
There must be a topic containing this article here somewhere. But here's my theory. I've read that at Neverland there were besides the firetrucks also 2 helicopter pads, which could mean that Michael owned 2 helicopters (ok let's skip the idea that he owned 1 and the other pad was meant for a guest helicopter). Now what if the 2 helicopters were identical and both were at UCLA. 1 heli had been followed by the media, as a sort of "red herring" heli LOL in which MJ "moved" etc and got all the attention; the other heli left a little later from UCLA with MJ in it in the opposite direction to a hiding place. On July 7 (very convenient date because most of the media attention went to the memorial) both heli's arrived at Neverland to give us the impression that police investigation was running, because they were "sheriff" heli's after all. The heli's had done their work :icon_e_wink:
L.O.V.E.
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Ok guys, I found this:
Helicopter Lands At Neverland Ranch
Written by Christina Heller
Story Created: Jul 7, 2009 at 5:39 PM PDT
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Story Updated: Jul 9, 2009 at 6:00 AM PDT )
Los Olivos, CA-- KEY News has learned that two helicopters flew to Neverland Ranch late Tuesday afternoon from an unknown destination.
According to sources outside the gates of Neverland, a blue and red helicopter approached the grounds of Neverland Ranch. The blue helicopter did land at the ranch, while the second helicopter hovered above the area.
Drew Sugars with the Santa Barbara Sheriff's Department confirmed to KEY News, a helicopter did land on the grounds of Neverland Ranch Tuesday afternoon. However, Sugars said Michael Jackson's body was not on board nor were any of the Jackson family members.
Many loyal fans and media outlets from around the world believe there is still a chance Jackson could eventually be buried at Neverland.
According to the State Cemetery and Funeral Bureau, a body can be housed at a specific location without permission to bury, as long as it is stored properly.
KEY News will continue to monitor this developing story, keep it tuned to KEY NEWS at 11 for the latest details.
http://www.keyt.com/news/local/50176362.html
There must be a topic containing this article here somewhere. But here's my theory. I've read that at Neverland there were besides the firetrucks also 2 helicopter pads, which could mean that Michael owned 2 helicopters (ok let's skip the idea that he owned 1 and the other pad was meant for a guest helicopter). Now what if the 2 helicopters were identical and both were at UCLA. 1 heli had been followed by the media, as a sort of "red herring" heli LOL in which MJ "moved" etc and got all the attention; the other heli left a little later from UCLA with MJ in it in the opposite direction to a hiding place. On July 7 (very convenient date because most of the media attention went to the memorial) both heli's arrived at Neverland to give us the impression that police investigation was running, because they were "sheriff" heli's after all. The heli's had done their work :icon_e_wink:
L.O.V.E.
It is possible, makes sense
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Helicopters are immensely cheaper to rent by the hour, than waste money paying for the upkeep while parked, because they are high maintenance.
Explain a few things then, please: after Michael's alleged body moved aboard retired Rescue 5, why did it take so many men to move MJ onto the stretcher ever so GENTLY? Watch that part; Coroner's are notorious for treating bodies like pieces of meat, and using as few of people as possible to move a body. Then after loaded into the Coroner van, why FOUR men inside the van for several minutes - then after they get out, one hurries like crazy, before moving? You would NOT do that with a rotting body, wrapped in sheets - but you would, if you were unwrapping a LIVE person!
And when the coroner van gets close to the parking garage, one van is ever so carefully MOVED OUT OF THE WAY, to let the coroner van INTO the parking garage, directed by the Blue Man we saw at the beginning, who was talking to the ambulance driver (whom I believe was Michael)?
And then, why was a small army of men followed the Coroner van into parking garage then, please. They were not paparazzi.
And lastly, Lou Ferrigno talked about how Michael enjoyed tossing a dummy into the back of an ambulance, and having the fans chase him - that only happened THAT ONE TIME. Rescue 5 is a Sheriff's department helicopter - Lou Ferrigno is a Sheriff, as has been mentioned.
Ergo, I dismiss this notion of a separate heli on that day.
Concerning July 7, 2009, notice the very careful wording of what the Santa Barbara Sheriff's Department said, "Michael Jackson's body was not on board, nor were any of the Jackson family members."
He isn't dead, and he rode in on that horse.
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Isn't that a part of that Schoeffel (sp?) guy documentary? The one that sued Michael? I remember seeing it.