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Title: Mysterious old man in hollywood tonight video???
Post by: Billie_Jean13 on March 07, 2012, 01:50:47 AM
Hey everybody i found this really interesting video on youtube just a few minutes ago and i thought i should share with all of you.
So the person that made this is claiming that there is a frequently occuring old man who is a very good dancer. he also pops up in a flash mob and is claimed to be a very good dancer for an old man. Possibly michael???? Anyways here is the link please watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXqdQqLvV18&feature=g-vrec&context=G2536709RVAAAAAAAAAg

Well, a good dancer ofor an old man certainly, but a good enough dancer to be MJ???? not too sure, could possibly be michael purposly toning down the talent??? or not michael at all...
Title: Re: Mysterious old man in hollywood tonight video???
Post by: crina on March 07, 2012, 02:00:43 AM
Oh, this is old video. At first i was thinking that could be Michael, but after more research and see more about him, i know he is not Michael.His name is  John Edwards. This old man teach other how to dance, that's why he is so good. I don't know how he came in this video, but definetly is not Michael.


here it's him, dancing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm3c_l3wYyY
Title: Re: Mysterious old man in hollywood tonight video???
Post by: Tink on March 07, 2012, 02:06:13 AM
@Crina - Considering that video is only from a year ago, I don't call that old.

I've done a search for local dancers: He doesn't come up at all! "John Edwards" as a 66 year old dancer, doesn't appear to exist.
Title: Re: Mysterious old man in hollywood tonight video???
Post by: Billie_Jean13 on March 07, 2012, 02:09:11 AM
thanks guys im sorry i didnt know people had already seen it i just found it myself, its very interesting how john edwards doesnt appear to exist though????
Title: Re: Mysterious old man in hollywood tonight video???
Post by: crina on March 07, 2012, 02:15:04 AM
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@Crina - Considering that video is only from a year ago, I don't call that old.

I've done a search for local dancers: He doesn't come up at all! "John Edwards" as a 66 year old dancer, doesn't appear to exist.


I'm sorry, you're right, is not that old. my mistake. When i said old i mean, old for me because i made some research and i look so many times at him, LOL.
Title: Re: Mysterious old man in hollywood tonight video???
Post by: Tink on March 07, 2012, 02:31:06 AM
@Crina - But where's his contact information? He's shown up so many times, it's like he's a ghost or something.  :(
Even overseas, for a flashmob, how is this possible?
Title: Re: Mysterious old man in hollywood tonight video???
Post by: crina on March 07, 2012, 02:55:59 AM
@Think, i know hon, it's very strange this guy. This is his facebook page. (I hope i can post the link here)

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000313528102&ref=tn_tnmn#!/profile.php?id=1095473923&sk=info
Title: Re: Mysterious old man in hollywood tonight video???
Post by: Tink on March 07, 2012, 03:15:20 AM
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@Think, i know hon, it's very strange this guy. This is his facebook page. (I hope i can post the link here)

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000313528102&ref=tn_tnmn#!/profile.php?id=1095473923&sk=info

@Crina - "Content not found."  :o Everyone in Hollywood STILL has a regular web page, for their business, btw! With phone numbers,
studio to teach, etc.

This is extremely fishy.
Title: Re: Mysterious old man in hollywood tonight video???
Post by: crina on March 07, 2012, 03:33:06 AM
@Think, you're right. That's why he is very mysterios guy. But i really doubt it's our Michael.

I'm sorry for the link, because don't work. Try to find him on facebook after his name, you'll find him with his pic oh his profile.
Title: Re: Mysterious old man in hollywood tonight video???
Post by: bec on March 07, 2012, 01:00:48 PM
Yes, his page is up, but there's no promotional information, no contact information, nothing to indicate he's a professional dancer or even available for appearences, looking for work, nothing.

As far as I'm concerned, I can acknowledge a clue when I see one and resolve that if this isn't MJ-in-disguise, then it is a character invented to pose as MJ-in-disguise.

I'm done worrying about looking crazy or being wrong. Time to just be honest and call a spade a spade.
Title: Re: Mysterious old man in hollywood tonight video???
Post by: BeTheChange on March 07, 2012, 01:24:54 PM
John Edwards is an 'interesting' character.  There is info out there on him, including contact info.  Not saying there's not something up with him in relation to MJ...just saying there's info out there.

http://www.danceplug.com/john-edwards (http://www.danceplug.com/john-edwards)

About...
Quote
Hello. I started dancing about 11 years ago because I don't like exercise, but I need to move and dance is more fun. The dance was at a gym, and the teacher, DHQ, taught me to be funky. DHQ was a backup dancer with M.C. Hammer (he's in the video "Too Legit to Quit"). I always liked James Brown, Michael Jackson, M.C., Gazzarri Dancers, and recently, Beat Freaks, Rino Nakasone, Alison Faulk, Anthony Thomas, Travis Payne, Phillip Dang, and Tiffany Bong. I want to learn all of their dances and a little street Samba too, but this year I am focused on Michael Jackson dance. Then after I learn all of this I want to dance a lot.

I am 66 years old and often can be seen wearing a headband. Now that I am getting good dance skills, I would like to put them to use. I just retired after 30 years as Deputy Director of Engineering for Air Force Space & Missile Systems Center. If you need a senior "buff daddy" who can actually move for your video or ad, I'm your man.

Resume...
Quote
Choreography
Thrill The World LA, MJ Birthday Choreo for "BAD" with Mariko For Flash Mob Aug 28, 2011 in LA
Commercials
Hammer Pants Dance (YouTube) Dancer A&E for M.C. Hammer

Dance
Hype Dance Studios, KPA Fusion Dancer-National Dance Day Flash Mob July 30, 2011 South Bay Pavilion, LA
Thrill The World LA, MJ Death Anniversary FM Lead Dancer, Hollywood Tonight June 25, 2011 Hollywood, CA
Dance Mob LA, Janet Jackson Event Lead Dancer April 15, 2011
Dance Mob LA, HerbalLife Event Lead Dancer, 4 dances March 19, 2011
Flashmob America MJ Birthday Dancer August 29, 2010
Flashmob America Glaad Awards Dancer April 2010
Flashmob America Haiti Dancer  March 2010

Music Videos
Behind The Mask (Michael Jackson) Dancer (1:33 & 2:31), Bass Player (3:12) Released 14 June 2011
TBD (Jennifer Lopez) Dancer  To be determined 2011
Hollywood Tonight (Michael Jackson) Behind lead dancers, short dance, cheer Shot 21 Feb 2011

Teaching
Hype Dance Studios, Torrance, CA Hip Hop for 50 + Feb 2009 - present

Television
Extra, Jennifer Lopez Event Dance Competition (Won) April 29, 2011
Kimora, Life in the Fab Lane Lead Dancer Aired Feb 2011
Modern Family (ABC) Dancer Shot Oct 21, 2010
Your Chance to Dance CMT Dance Contestant (Won Ep 110) Sept 24, 2010
Dance Machine (ABC) Dance Contestant (Won) July 4, 2008

re: the bolded part above...that he retired after 30 years with the USAF...if you google that, you get http://www.linkedin.com/pub/john-edwards/7/b43/a70 (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/john-edwards/7/b43/a70).  On that page, he claims to be the owner of a company called BrosED Arts....and there's a link to the company website:

http://www.brosed.com/Brosed/B_r_o_s._ED_Arts.html (http://www.brosed.com/Brosed/B_r_o_s._ED_Arts.html)

...including contact info:

brosed@cox.net
310-796-6580

With L.O.V.E. always.
Title: Re: Mysterious old man in hollywood tonight video???
Post by: Tink on March 07, 2012, 05:21:20 PM
@BeTheChange - Fascinating. He also claims to have worked on the Space Shuttle - before it was operational.  lolol/
Very interesting character. Well, if he's real: one of the most agile people for his age, and we should all be so lucky.
If he's part of this hoax: What can I say.
Title: Re: Mysterious old man in hollywood tonight video???
Post by: crina on March 07, 2012, 11:06:15 PM
@BeTheChance....Thank you for this info. :)
Title: Re: Mysterious old man in hollywood tonight video???
Post by: wishingstar on March 07, 2012, 11:35:03 PM
Yes BTC.....that is an amazing post of information!  Great job!  I love that danceplug.com site....just a cool site in general!
Thank you so much for all of that.......

Blessings!
Title: Re: Mysterious old man in hollywood tonight video???
Post by: Shamone Jackson on March 08, 2012, 12:30:46 AM
Pearl Jr. was planning on interviewing this guy.  Took a pic with him and everything but it never happened.  I don't know why though.
Title: Re: Mysterious old man in hollywood tonight video???
Post by: Tink on March 08, 2012, 01:56:30 AM
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Pearl Jr. was planning on interviewing this guy.  Took a pic with him and everything but it never happened.  I don't know why though.

@Shamone - the lack of interview I find interesting.
Title: Re: Mysterious old man in hollywood tonight video???
Post by: wishingstar on March 11, 2012, 11:15:49 PM
I just came across another very interesting video.  Though it too is focused on this interesting older gentleman....it's someone else that caught my eye. Here is the video:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ceskTUqwS4&feature=g-vrec&context=G2aa7e99RVAAAAAAAABg[/youtube]


The video goes into detail of what we are saying here.  However, check out the at about 2:52........black vest/light shirt, pretty much center frame.  Really look at him.  Look to see where he is in the line of dancers....got it? 
OK....now watch for our older gentleman, he shows up about 3:07.  The guy with the black vest/light shirt is now behind him/beside him....he wasn't before.  You can plainly see the space relationship between these two dancers from the beginning...they are not next to or behind/front each other.  They are several dancers away from each other to begin with.  At about 3:25, the camera begins a swing back to the area where he was first...there is an officer/security guard looking dude in the shot...he was there originally with the black vest/light shirt dude.  When the camera swings back over the crowd......vest dude is not there.  He's over behind our older gentleman.
Why is this important?  It shows that a video can be spliced to look seamless....much like what Tink has said.  We think we are seeing one big non-stop dance.....we are not.  We can't be.  Because this guy has dramatically changed locations to be over near the older gentleman.  Though, it looks like one dance, it's not...they must have done a practice, a rehearsal, run through.....something like that.
Anyways,  I just found it really interesting given all the video talk about the coroner van and heli-pad stuff. 

Blessings
Title: Re: Glitch in the Matrix!!
Post by: Tink on March 11, 2012, 11:48:56 PM
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I just came across another very interesting video.  Though it too is focused on this interesting older gentleman....it's someone else that caught my eye. Here is the video:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ceskTUqwS4&feature=g-vrec&context=G2aa7e99RVAAAAAAAABg[/youtube]


The video goes into detail of what we are saying here.  However, check out the at about 2:52........black vest/light shirt, pretty much center frame.  Really look at him.  Look to see where he is in the line of dancers....got it? 
OK....now watch for our older gentleman, he shows up about 3:07.  The guy with the black vest/light shirt is now behind him/beside him....he wasn't before.  You can plainly see the space relationship between these two dancers from the beginning...they are not next to or behind/front each other.  They are several dancers away from each other to begin with.  At about 3:25, the camera begins a swing back to the area where he was first...there is an officer/security guard looking dude in the shot...he was there originally with the black vest/light shirt dude.  When the camera swings back over the crowd......vest dude is not there.  He's over behind our older gentleman.
Why is this important?  It shows that a video can be spliced to look seamless....much like what Tink has said.  We think we are seeing one big non-stop dance.....we are not.  We can't be.  Because this guy has dramatically changed locations to be over near the older gentleman.  Though, it looks like one dance, it's not...they must have done a practice, a rehearsal, run through.....something like that.
Anyways,  I just found it really interesting given all the video talk about the coroner van and heli-pad stuff. 

Blessings

@wishingstar - You found a hidden clue!  bearhug

Anybody recall that in the Matrix, Trinity pointed out seeing the same "black cat"  seen twice,
meant there was a glitch in the system?

How can you be so OBVIOUS in a literal since? This cool dancing dude, he really can't be seen
in two places at the same time!!

We have a GLITCH in the Matrix, and Michael is NEO!

Title: Re: Mysterious old man in hollywood tonight video???
Post by: wishingstar on March 12, 2012, 12:14:46 AM
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I just came across another very interesting video.  Though it too is focused on this interesting older gentleman....it's someone else that caught my eye. Here is the video:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ceskTUqwS4&feature=g-vrec&context=G2aa7e99RVAAAAAAAABg[/youtube]


The video goes into detail of what we are saying here.  However, check out the at about 2:52........black vest/light shirt, pretty much center frame.  Really look at him.  Look to see where he is in the line of dancers....got it? 
OK....now watch for our older gentleman, he shows up about 3:07.  The guy with the black vest/light shirt is now behind him/beside him....he wasn't before.  You can plainly see the space relationship between these two dancers from the beginning...they are not next to or behind/front each other.  They are several dancers away from each other to begin with.  At about 3:25, the camera begins a swing back to the area where he was first...there is an officer/security guard looking dude in the shot...he was there originally with the black vest/light shirt dude.  When the camera swings back over the crowd......vest dude is not there.  He's over behind our older gentleman.
Why is this important?  It shows that a video can be spliced to look seamless....much like what Tink has said.  We think we are seeing one big non-stop dance.....we are not.  We can't be.  Because this guy has dramatically changed locations to be over near the older gentleman.  Though, it looks like one dance, it's not...they must have done a practice, a rehearsal, run through.....something like that.
Anyways,  I just found it really interesting given all the video talk about the coroner van and heli-pad stuff. 

Blessings

@wishingstar - You found a hidden clue!  bearhug

Anybody recall that in the Matrix, Trinity pointed out seeing the same "black cat"  seen twice,
meant there was a glitch in the system?

How can you be so OBVIOUS in a literal since? This cool dancing dude, he really can't be seen
in two places at the same time!!

We have a GLITCH in the Matrix, and Michael is NEO!





I did?.....Yay!!!!!!
 bounce/ bounce/ bounce/
I feel like my hoax eyes are getting stronger....or maybe it's just better wine (just kidding...no wine!)
 :lol:
Thanks Tink .......
 bearhug

Blessings
Title: Re: Mysterious old man in hollywood tonight video???
Post by: SEHF on March 17, 2012, 05:46:24 PM
lmfao..

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee491/showemhowfunky/lol1.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee491/showemhowfunky/lol2.jpg)
Title: Re: Mysterious old man in hollywood tonight video???
Post by: SimPattyK on March 17, 2012, 06:16:29 PM
LMFAO ^^  :lol: :lol:
I wish I was in that shape at that age! lol




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I just came across another very interesting video.  Though it too is focused on this interesting older gentleman....it's someone else that caught my eye. Here is the video:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ceskTUqwS4&feature=g-vrec&context=G2aa7e99RVAAAAAAAABg[/youtube]


The video goes into detail of what we are saying here.  However, check out the at about 2:52........black vest/light shirt, pretty much center frame.  Really look at him.  Look to see where he is in the line of dancers....got it? 
OK....now watch for our older gentleman, he shows up about 3:07.  The guy with the black vest/light shirt is now behind him/beside him....he wasn't before.  You can plainly see the space relationship between these two dancers from the beginning...they are not next to or behind/front each other.  They are several dancers away from each other to begin with.  At about 3:25, the camera begins a swing back to the area where he was first...there is an officer/security guard looking dude in the shot...he was there originally with the black vest/light shirt dude.  When the camera swings back over the crowd......vest dude is not there.  He's over behind our older gentleman.
Why is this important?  It shows that a video can be spliced to look seamless....much like what Tink has said.  We think we are seeing one big non-stop dance.....we are not.  We can't be.  Because this guy has dramatically changed locations to be over near the older gentleman.  Though, it looks like one dance, it's not...they must have done a practice, a rehearsal, run through.....something like that.
Anyways,  I just found it really interesting given all the video talk about the coroner van and heli-pad stuff. 

Blessings
How did I miss this wonderful post of yours!??
 /bravo/ Love you sis'!  bearhug
Title: Re: Mysterious old man in hollywood tonight video???
Post by: Shamone Jackson on March 18, 2012, 12:51:48 AM
Here's another video of our friend, John Edwards:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm3c_l3wYyY[/youtube]
Title: Re: Mysterious old man in hollywood tonight video???
Post by: Tink on April 01, 2012, 09:07:24 PM
Anyone notice that he's wearing AVIATOR style glasses, btw?
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