Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: 2good2btrue on December 25, 2009, 10:33:00 AM
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We all know that there are so many believers that Elvis didn't really die, and faked his death. I've been spending many late nights on this one, and think I really need everyones opinion on this bit of evidence..................Please watch with an open mind and then let me know your opinion please. It could be him just with some darker skin makeup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=havV64Jv3gQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=havV64Jv3gQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP2d33cnrik (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP2d33cnrik)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deGGRqr_Z-I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deGGRqr_Z-I)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwSKT2oWu4Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwSKT2oWu4Q)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srh7WmdR0iU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srh7WmdR0iU)
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Yes, I've heard about it. I also spend some time on investigating Elvis Presley's death, and I came to the conclusion that it also was hoax. People are looking at me like I am crazy, but I see so many coincidences here...just like in Michael;s case. Or maybe I am TOO open minded? :P lol :D
I think that it is POSSIBLE that hat man in memorial was Elvis. Father-in-law who helped MJ in a way to fake his death 8-) Here is one more video, I've got goosebumps while watching it :
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 941506130# (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2716848053941506130#)
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I did too look into the simmelarities between the two, and they do seem alot alike. The circumstance in which they died, the thinks surrounding their dead is very eary coincedental...At this point I dont think this too far fetched...
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I hope it will not end up like Elvis, never coming back..
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I thought that would be cool even 8-)
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Hm, it can be Elvis. I mean, he's 'dead' for a while now, so we don't really know how he would look right now.
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Thus then we would know where from MJ this has learned, nothing surprises me.... ;)
it would be really cool
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Yes, I've heard about it. I also spend some time on investigating Elvis Presley's death, and I came to the conclusion that it also was hoax. People are looking at me like I am crazy, but I see so many coincidences here...just like in Michael;s case. Or maybe I am TOO open minded? :P lol :D
I think that it is POSSIBLE that hat man in memorial was Elvis. Father-in-law who helped MJ in a way to fake his death 8-) Here is one more video, I've got goosebumps while watching it :
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 941506130# (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2716848053941506130#)
:o :shock: :o :shock: :shock: OMG, that video is very interesting! :shock: ! I wonder if he is alive? The doctor said that elvis faked his death for similar reasons why we believe Michael did.
Lisa Marie did say in a blog that she wrote in her myspace page that while she was married to Michael, he asked her about Elvis's death. It sounded like he wanted to know everything she could tell him. It's interesting that Michael wanted to know information, unless he was simply curious what happened and if Elvis is alive or dead.
It is possible that MJ went to Elvis(if he is alive) to help him fake his death. I wonder what kind of information Lisa told Michael and if he knows if Elvis is alive? Hmmm
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i really believe that elvis is ALIVE!
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I hope it will not end up like Elvis, never coming back..
I know. We need Michael, the world needs Michael!! There's not many guys like Michael Jackson in this world. It would be really sad if he is alive(and we get proof) and he never comes back! :( :cry: Let's hope for the best and if he is alive, he will come back... :?
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If Elvis is still alive, I hope Michael won't do like him, I hope he'll come back ! Can you imagine the shock if MJ comes back with Elvis ?!!! But I think nobody will recognize Elvis as many years later :roll: At the time when Elvis died, it was easier for him to fake his death without web and all of this... For me, it's like with Michael, as long as I haven't got a real proof he's dead, i won't believe :)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmkK6aslhUk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmkK6aslhUk)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PBFBsYxqkQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PBFBsYxqkQ)
Watch this youtube video I made on October 30th 2009. I wanted to show all the similarities between both KINGS. I made this before I heard about this site.
I DO REMEMBER MICHAEL SAYING TO LISA-MARIE THAT HE DIDN'T WANT TO END UP LIKE HER FATHER..........YOU COULD TAKE THAT TWO WAYS.
1/ He didn't want to get to a point that he would have to fake his death too.
2/ Or he didn't want to end up dead because of all the pressure from the media.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyU-Of0lA9Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyU-Of0lA9Y)
Watch this one too. I love it!!!
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Wow these equalities
Great videos ,I say MJ and Elvis over and over again Paralelen have :D
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You people have totally gone off the deep end! I mean really. Elvis died in his bathroom, drugged out of his mind! Period. He's doctor went to trial. Elvis died! He had an open casket.
Michael died too, sorry...it's the facts. You can swing this all you want. It happened, it's horrible but it's true.
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You people have totally gone off the deep end! I mean really. Elvis died in his bathroom, drugged out of his mind! Period. He's doctor went to trial. Elvis died! He had an open casket.
Michael died too, sorry...it's the facts. You can swing this all you want. It happened, it's horrible but it's true.
I think this is an interesting thread. I always thought there was a possibility that Elvis hoaxed his death. Lauren, why aren't you posting on a tribute/bereavement site instead? You would find people there who think as you do and I am sure you would be more comfortable. This forum is for people who are investigating Michael's hoaxed death.
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however, bild from the coffin does not look like Elvis (time of his death)
http://www.elvispresleynews.com/ElvisCoffinPicture.html
In the car this was one meet before his death Elvis was with the dentist.
Looks differently!
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@ lauren09
Elvis personal physician had remained a free man
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Thanks guys. It's great to hear your opinions about this. The reality is that as said b4,
MJ could not possibly be Dave Dave, hatman and blonde lady all at the same time. Dave dave was on Larry King live while the funeral had started.
But what really freaks me out, is if you look at hatman at the funeral, we don't know who he is waving at. Could it be his daughter Lise Marie that was there as well. If we don't know who he is, and can't be identified, then maybe that's the case. I read that hatman was conversing and playing with Lise Marie's children at the after party. Hmmmm. However it is, the children must know him ? well enough let him hold and hug them.
But then I heard from a news source, that only Lise Marie was sobbing uncontrollably throughout the whole funeral. There was never a mention of MJ's family sobbing was there??????????????????..............
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this.
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2good2btrue, Regarding Dave Dave or "Dave Dave" on Larry King Live, LK did mention that DD would be attending the burial. While the interview was in progress, we the viewer were shown video of cars arriving at Forest Lawn. I think this interview was pre recorded anyway but aired as if "live". Or the footage of the cars arriving could have been pre recorded whenever. Or was the interview set up in such a way to provoke the viewer into wondering why DD and Miko were sitting in a tv studio when they should already be at the funeral? This whole business is so confusing.
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and that google FOX Video - Not Elivs DNA? DNA should be a proof. But I dont know enough the sources and the background.
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i posted a topic on this in the all odd things hehe about a month ago...i told my family about elvis (but not michael yet) and they though i was crazy!!!...but i showed them the video by fox and now they are even thinking its true lol...i dont know how to tell em i think michael is alive though because 2 kings died and i think both them still alive haha i only 18 so my mother and brother will think i am INSANE but i just know it...here is wat my bro said, "next your going to think Michael is alive and Tupac"...hehe guilty on the Michael one :P
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Keep the faith guys....I think we are getting CLOSER . MJ must love all this investigating work we are doing. I bet he wished he could comment on all this. PLEASE COME BACK TO US...........WE WON'T JUDGE YOU.. WE LOVE YOU AND TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHY YOU HAD TO GO IN HIDING. COME BACK WHEN YOU'RE READY. OUR LOVE WILL STILL BE HERE WHEN YOU DECIDE IT'S THE RIGHT TIME..
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2good2btrue, Regarding Dave Dave or "Dave Dave" on Larry King Live, LK did mention that DD would be attending the burial. While the interview was in progress, we the viewer were shown video of cars arriving at Forest Lawn. I think this interview was pre recorded anyway but aired as if "live". Or the footage of the cars arriving could have been pre recorded whenever. Or was the interview set up in such a way to provoke the viewer into wondering why DD and Miko were sitting in a tv studio when they should already be at the funeral? This whole business is so confusing.
Yes, I noticed the same thing. Very strange and confusing indeed :shock:
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however, bild from the coffin does not look like Elvis (time of his death)
http://www.elvispresleynews.com/ElvisCoffinPicture.html
The picture of Elvis in his coffin seems like Elvis in his twenties, at the time when he died he was much heavier, wasn't he?
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@ tun
Exactly right! :!: ;)
Elvis in his younger years! And also the entire phenomenon is not of the present!
Even Elvis's cousin said, "That's not Elvis"
It was chilled to the coffin (wax doll??) :?:
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@ Angelshadow
Just like the ambulance-picture of Michael, it looked like Michael from years ago!!!
Oh my, the two kings are coming back together :D :D :D
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@ Tun :P
The emergency call
It was said only Gentelman (not the name)
There are many similarities :!:
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If the two kings came back together the media would be in meltdown. Rolling news networks would be to put it crudely "wetting themselves".
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You people have totally gone off the deep end! I mean really. Elvis died in his bathroom, drugged out of his mind! Period. He's doctor went to trial. Elvis died! He had an open casket.
Michael died too, sorry...it's the facts. You can swing this all you want. It happened, it's horrible but it's true.
I think this is an interesting thread. I always thought there was a possibility that Elvis hoaxed his death. Lauren, why aren't you posting on a tribute/bereavement site instead? You would find people there who think as you do and I am sure you would be more comfortable. This forum is for people who are investigating Michael's hoaxed death.
While i don't agree with the tone of sentiments like 'You idiots are mental - Jackson is really dead', there are at least as many strong arguments for Jackson's death as there are for his hoaxed death. As Jade Jackson said herself, the point is to investigate the situation without bias towards the ending you particularly want - so people shouldn't be discouraged from posting valid observations that go against the hoax theory. If the evidence is there it will come out regardless of which theory anyone supports. After all, so little information has been made public since his 'death', who knows which way the lead will swing when more info is revealed? It could go either way, the truth is all people want. If it's bad I think MJ would want people to hear it - justice.
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Mm.. I didn't really watch those vids. I'll have to when i have the time but..
I just can't believe Elvis would fake his death. I'M NOT SAYING ITS NOT POSSIBLE. but I just cant really.. wrap my head around it.
I mean the way they said Elvis died, why would he want that story told? I mean we all heard of the story that Elvis was found dead in his restroom. I mean if you wanna fake your death wouldn't you wanna go out in style? I'm not trying to be flippant or disrespectful. But I'm just sayin..
Though Elvis would be in his 80's now or 70's so I don't know if he is still alive even if he faked his death back in 77' (was it?).
Which hurts me about Michael. If Michael faked his death, I will be absolutely ecstatic that he is alive. Though i don't know if I could take him actually dying. That would break my heart all over again. :cry:
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There were different stories as to where Elvis's body was found. His manager Joe Esposito says he found him not breathing on his bed, whereas his body guard said he found him on the ground in the bathroom floor. His girlfriend at the time, has another story, and all the times mentioned, don't match up...etc. There was a mysterious call made tipping off the media b4 he actually died...Sounds very familiar. No official death certificate signed either. Tombstone name is spelt incorrectly, Elvis Aron Presly (real name) and the grave had Elvis Aaron Presley. Just like Michael Joseph Jackson and Michael Joe Jackson. Which is it.? If you mark a grave with an incorrect name on it, it states that officially we don't know who really is buried in there. It's not fraud. Did you read that they want to exhume Elvis Presleys body from his grave?????????????????? Now that's really wierd, after soooooo long and just around the time MJ has ????passed?
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where did you hear that!!!! :o :o thats horrible to even think they would wanna do something like that...even if elvis didnt really die just them thinking about taking him out is horrible and disrespectful. and what if he really did die?!?!?! wow that would emotionally horrible for the fans and for LMP and wow :o i hope they dont do that, that would be crazy to do such a thing in any scenerio
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First off, I must say that I love that people have the courage to post new thought provoking ideas. Generating fresh ideas-or even recasting old ones in a fresh light-are always welcome by me. In fact, that is why I come here; I believe that all ideas are worth investigating and may lead us to the truth. I desperately seek the truth and feel that many of us are here for that matter. So, for that, I thank you all for mustering up the courage to go against the grain and take the heat that certain posts can create.
I must say that I think it is plausible that Elvis could have faked his death. I have explored many videos and even Elvis' close relatives state that it was not his body in the coffin. They claim it was too wax-like and the hairline was too perfect (artificial). [As an aside, even his middle name is spelled incorrectly on his tombstone at Graceland.] At any rate, I wager the relatives would be more inclined to know better than me, so that bears much weight (in truth) in my mind. Also, we must remember that both Elvis and MJ are entertainers. Not only were they talented singers and dancers they had to be great actors as well-for they both lived their lives on the stage. Because of this I believe they both could have pulled off the biggest act of their lives! It has been noted that Elvis may have hoaxed his death due to the death threats he received against himself and his family. Perhaps MJ had experienced the same?!? Being a celebrity comes with a huge price. Both of these men were intelligent and valued their families and I feel that they would have been prepared to do anything to protect them.
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First off, I must say that I love that people have the courage to post new thought provoking ideas. Generating fresh ideas-or even recasting old ones in a fresh light-are always welcome by me. In fact, that is why I come here; I believe that all ideas are worth investigating and may lead us to the truth. I desperately seek the truth and feel that many of us are here for that matter. So, for that, I thank you all for mustering up the courage to go against the grain and take the heat that certain posts can create.
I must say that I think it is plausible that Elvis could have faked his death. I have explored many videos and even Elvis' close relatives state that it was not his body in the coffin. They claim it was too wax-like and the hairline was too perfect (artificial). [As an aside, even his middle name is spelled incorrectly on his tombstone at Graceland.] At any rate, I wager the relatives would be more inclined to know better than me, so that bears much weight (in truth) in my mind. Also, we must remember that both Elvis and MJ are entertainers. Not only were they talented singers and dancers they had to be great actors as well-for they both lived their lives on the stage. Because of this I believe they both could have pulled off the biggest act of their lives! It has been noted that Elvis may have hoaxed his death due to the death threats he received against himself and his family. Perhaps MJ had experienced the same?!? Being a celebrity comes with a huge price. Both of these men were intelligent and valued their families and I feel that they would have been prepared to do anything to protect them.
Yeah i posted a thread about the video of elvis on fox news in februaury earlier this year. it had some very interesting facts going down have you seen it??..the doctor that claimed he had been treating elvis passed a lie detector test blah blah...and also saying that elvis had a biopsy done before his death AND the tissue sample of the autopsy doesnt match that of Elvis's biopsy from more recent years to his death!!! I think that is Elvis can do it then so can Michael for sure :)
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However I don't believe that Elvis is hat man due to hat man was in disguise and Elvis Does not need to be in disguise any longer because no one knows what he looks like because he has aged he is in his mid 70's now. And if the pic that fox news reported may be elvis is truly him....then hatman does not look like elvis IMHO
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If Elvis was alive he would have to be a rather spry 75 year old. If he looks anything like that pic posted recently somewhere in this forum---much like he did when he was younger but with a few wrinkles and gray hair then he would be a dead give away and would very well need to be in disguise to be in public. It would also depend on his comfort level as well. I really don't have a clue as to if it is Elvis or not at the Memorial (as hat man). I would like to believe that Elvis is alive and well and enjoying life. Plus, it would be nice to know that he did help MJ accomplish his death hoax.....but I just cannot conclude that it is Elvis at the Memorial. I really wish we could just find out who these questionable people are. I also want to know who the blonde woman next to him is.
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If Elvis was alive he would have to be a rather spry 75 year old. If he looks anything like that pic posted recently somewhere in this forum---much like he did when he was younger but with a few wrinkles and gray hair then he would be a dead give away and would very well need to be in disguise to be in public. It would also depend on his comfort level as well. I really don't have a clue as to if it is Elvis or not at the Memorial (as hat man). I would like to believe that Elvis is alive and well and enjoying life. Plus, it would be nice to know that he did help MJ accomplish his death hoax.....but I just cannot conclude that it is Elvis at the Memorial. I really wish we could just find out who these questionable people are. I also want to know who the blonde woman next to him is.
thats not the pic fox news gave up...go back and watch that video about elvis...it was on fox in februaury i have no idea why that pic is there but seriously go watch that video if you need a link i will post one but they have a very good story on him
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid) ... 941506130#
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2good2btrue posted it, as a virtual interpretation of what he MIGHT look like today....sorry. I'll take it off. Cheers.
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2good2btrue posted it, as a virtual interpretation of what he MIGHT look like today....sorry. I'll take it off. Cheers.
have you seen the video link about elvis that i posted abovem, the have a pic of what he may look like...i didnt mean to sound rude in any way though :)...
peace to you 2good2btrue
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Internet wont let me open it for some reason. Is there another link????
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Internet wont let me open it for some reason. Is there another link????
yes its the first comment after ur Original post... i forgot the name of the person but they posted the link i think their name was like mystery86 or 86mystery or something around there...good luck!!!
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Anyone must know who this mysterious people are (hatman and blonde lady) 'cause why are they invited for the memorial, so they must have a certain connection to Michael. Why can't they just tell us who they are... Ohh you are killing me--if Elvis would be alive, too... Oh my... Just imagine if they would come back together...(I know, sounds too good to be true...)but it definitely would be the greatest news EVER and WOW!!!
(When Michael would come back alone it would be anyway the greatest news ever, too)
But the whole world would be over the moon...I hope so much that both are alive so imagine Elvis did want his fans not to see him anymore, maybe he wanted them remembering him like he was in his earlier days, maybe he was threatened, I don't know... But he really could have helped Michael...WOW ...!
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Internet wont let me open it for some reason. Is there another link????
yes its the first comment after ur Original post... i forgot the name of the person but they posted the link i think their name was like mystery86 or 86mystery or something around there...good luck!!!
Thanks, I did see it. Great Video.
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And then Freddie Mercury please come back, too, please :D :cry: Would just be awesome, too!
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I totally believe this could be Elvis....there are too many similarities between their supposed deaths. I watched LMP on Larry King and he asked her is she ever felt her Dad's presents around her, or felt he was near and she got really fidgety and was laughing and told Larry she didn't want to answer that. I think Elvis and Michael both faked their deaths for the very same reasons. That's just my opinion!! :)
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I totally believe this could be Elvis....there are too many similarities between their supposed deaths. I watched LMP on Larry King and he asked her is she ever felt her Dad's presents around her, or felt he was near and she got really fidgety and was laughing and told Larry she didn't want to answer that. I think Elvis and Michael both faked their deaths for the very same reasons. That's just my opinion!! :)
wow can you give a link to that video please!?!?!?! :D
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Here is the link....There are 8 parts to this interview....this is in part 3 @ 4:35 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12ZtqWHhpfU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12ZtqWHhpfU)
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I saw someone called this guy in the first vid an imposter..
Haha.. Would be really funny of Elvis to go around saying he is an imposter and idiots would believe it..
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A MUST SEE VIDEO......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dms65OHQ ... re=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dms65OHQKoY&feature=channel)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xQuLXAt ... re=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xQuLXAtec8&feature=channel)
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=elv ... dMs0qnkCPk (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=elvisfantasay2010#p/u/13/VdMs0qnkCPk)
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(http://img.youtube.com/vi/jP2d33cnrik/0.jpg)
(http://www.classicrockrecords.nl/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/elvis.jpg)
Both are alleged to be Elvis...
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(http://img.youtube.com/vi/jP2d33cnrik/0.jpg)
(http://www.classicrockrecords.nl/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/elvis.jpg)
Both are alleged to be Elvis...
Okay.. I'm not any Elvis fan, and I neither don't know much about this guy..
But everyone can see they are damn much alike, and in that time you couldn't do surgeries to look like another.. Well, it would cost so much money! And no one had that much, except famous persons.
That is Elvis. I can see it.. Nose is the same, cheecks, eyes.. face shape.. scary :shock:
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Thus this resemblance is amusing! I stare at the picture...(http://www.GratisSmilies.de/smilies/computer/computer_18.gif) (http://www.GratisSmilies.de)
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Someday soon, h enews will talk about MJ being alive or atleast discussing the possibilty. We need to show them the evidence which is all over but some people willed o ly what they want to see..
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If Jon Cotner is Elvis, and I really believe he is, then he can't be Hat Man. That's what is written in his "who I'd like to meet" section on his myspace.
Who I'd like to meet:
Gail Brewer Giorgio, Mary Smiley, Belkis Cuza Malee or however the hell it's spelled and her Jon Burrows, Paul Monroe, Michael Jackson since he's turned white hahaha, and all the other real superstars that I've never met who claimed to know me.
Anyway, he has not deleted the text since MJ is "dead". He'd really had to do it, he has a strong christian way of thinking.
Lisa Mary Presley's official myspace figures as second in his top 8's friend space.
Michael didn't need any help from Elvis.
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I remember that "hat man" was the only one who stood up when the coffin was carried out of the hall. Gave me shivers ... :shock:
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All I know is that "hat man" is the onl one we never managed to identify, and who never came to say who he is, also media talked about him being MJ in disguise. We still don't know who he is !
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I have that man in myspace. Lately he was spamming my inbox with his new Byble for sale :?
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I have that man in myspace. Lately he was spamming my inbox with his new Byble for sale :?
You've been spammed by Elvis :lol: woaaw
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Well, the guy seems very similar to EP. But it's so long ago that EP died. It is possible that his death was fake. I think we have too much hope to get. We'll see / hear. It is fun to explore it for sure. If it is true that MJ and EP are still alive, then sooner or later the truth will come out once.
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I have that man in myspace. Lately he was spamming my inbox with his new Byble for sale :?
You've been spammed by Elvis :lol: woaaw
:lol: yeah, but i refused to pay 22 dollars for that
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Yes Yes YES I think it could be possible, since TIAI redirected to that Elvis is Alive video I watched and researched Elvis's death and yes I agree it would make perfect sense that that would be Elvis!!! I Also think there is going to be some sort of connection with Cirque, Elvis, Michael, and possibly Chris Angel....wouldn't that be the biggest comeback in history.....Elvis Presley and Michael Jackson....brought back to life by Chris Angel!! lol its sounds soooo Crazy but....I have to say that more of the hoax makes more sense than Michaels death...so I'm going with what seems to fit together and soooo far all this fits!!
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Yes that would be amazing !! my mother is a big Elvis fan and she was very sad when he died ,so if he comes back together with Michael than me and my mon are celebrating 8-) double party :lol: