Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Persons Of Interest => Everyone Else => Others => Topic started by: Andrea on November 18, 2011, 06:41:55 PM
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What she says here is very interesting, especially with so much of what we've been talking about. And remember that Gaga has claimed she was supposed to open for Michael for the "This Is It" concerts...
She also clearly and deliberately says "BAM" at 1:21.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9oP_CKRUX4&feature=topvideos_music[/youtube]
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Extremely Interesting. Why would Gaga do a hospital scene like that ? Maybe she's helping !!!????? She talks about painting reality etc. Something that makes you go hmmmmm..............
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Lady Gaga is the epitome of Illuminati mind control....why on earth would Michael want her to open for him???
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I.. I just do not trust Ga Ga or her managers :? they "molded" her to "replace"
what Madonna was in 80s and 90s, but on entire new, more artificial {not sure if
I'm using the right word here}, disturbing level, and I just do not trust this..er, level.
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Lady Gaga, is not illuminati, she may protray it but she is not. If you listen to her lyrics, ex: born this way, she is saying that we should accept everyone as equal.. and accept yourself as you are. I don't think Lady Gaga is in the hoax, but she must have some suspicion. I like her voice, her music and deep down I feel she is not illuminati. Maybe she shows it, so she will not have any problems..
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I meant that she is the perfect puppet product for them. I agree...she is Madonna x 1000 but in a worse way.
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She is on a stretcher and the nurses wheeling her are actually under her control. Reminds me of something...
Michael owns the rights to some if not all of her music.
The more I listen to what she says in this video, it's so utterly easy to relate what she's talking about to Michael and his hoax.
I was on the fence awhile ago as to which side Gaga is on, but I think she's on the right side. She shoves TPTB's symbolic imagery right in their faces. I mean, it's just so blatant and out there as opposed to being subtle and on a more subconscious level. It demands attention. It's easy to argue either way as to which side she's on but from what I know of her, I believe she has a good soul.
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Is she having a near death experience, and she sees in her past trauma perhaps sexual abuse that makes her loathe reality. So she wants to artistically re-create a lie of a life that she much prefers to fill in the holes (bad things she wants to block out). She got the knife (not gummy bears)? Did she have an abortion, hystorectomy, some other kind of surgery, or bad past or connections cut away? She's got the saline bag and IV pole like MJ, and her face and hair is kind of like his. She is seeming "dead" or unconscious but from within this state of being --this is her design and she has planned everything including how the nurses and she are dressed. All details are important to her and noticed. After the doors opened she said, "Bam". A door to a new life after she had her unwanted life cut away? There's still a piano in her new life. White stands for purity, cleanliness, perhaps a heavenly state. There are 3 exit signs-- exit the old life?
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb371/lifeisamovie1/ladygagaexit.jpg)
To parallel MJ, he was unhappy with certain things in his life, the abuse from his Dad, the media, and perhaps even sexual abuse from handlers (we don't know for sure). He always speaks of not having a childhood-- and perhaps it's not missing playing, but losing his innocence at such a young age, being in the same room as his brothers having sex with girls, etc. So he created as art, an alternate reality--a grand lie that he preferred to fill in all the holes of his life that he didn't like. It is this hoax a reshaping of his life-story while he is "dead"-- perhaps changing the entire world's in a chain reaction because of the power of his art and the immensity of his persona. Bam may be opening the doors to his new life, run the way he'd like it to go, with no more abuse, but only love. Still music in his new life. Just some thoughts that came. I too, think there is a connection to MJ here. Remember in the Murray docu he said, "This was going to be my exit, this was my exit." MJ's exit from his old life, and start of new!
Thanks Andrea!
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Here we go again......Lady Gaga, is not illuminati!
Just search on you tube for her standing up for gay rights.
You think an illuminati doll would do that?
Or would be allowed to speak out that way?
/cook/ mj_bad/
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Exactly, she is NOT the Illuminati and she is an extremely good and talented artist. Some people will always make the Madonna comparisons and say she's weird but I love the way she is so artistic and she does great things for society. I too think she either has a suspicion of the hoax or she's in it. There's been a few indicators over the past couple of years. The first thing that came to mind after seeing this is in accordance with what Andrea and others have said. Very interesting!
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Okay, she's not evil, but as hardcore vegetarian I stopped following her career
after the meat dress :lol:
I can't see her without seeing meat dress now ::P whatever that image stands for, maybe
it was pro-vegetarian lol, but it still makes me sick because it's in my nature to feel sick in the
presence of excessive raw meat fresse/
Don't care if she's "weird", it's just acting to get attention and part of the picked image,
but media will do MJ thing to her if she's not with real "world leaders", wait and see.
It might be big and bad on her if she keeps "exposing" whatever she tries to.
But.. I think she's safe for now, as most of her fandom must be young gay crowds and no way
they "read between the lines", they simply admire shockingly high fashion [well, okay, I have friends
like that and that's all they want from her, "off the wall" imagery. MJ was directly exposing things
and most of his fans completely missed it while he was around, Lady does it waaay too
cryptic for her fans to "see"].
Still, I won't be surprised if one day tabloids explode with some hating BS about that girl.
If she's not with "them", she's indeed a perfect target.
[and yeah, as Madonna fan through 80s and 90s, I will be doing comparisons non-stop,
I know Madonna's work too good to avoid that obvious reference. Sorry. It's not good,
it's not bad, it is what it is. Probably another natural showbiz thing, guess she grew up
with Madonna's work like us all and is heavily inspired by her. We all take something
from our idols, be it looks or habits.]
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There is no way the tabloids can write something hating BS about Lady Gaga.
She is feeding them with BS.....sounds familiar..... mj_bad/
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I.. I just do not trust Ga Ga or her managers :? they "molded" her to "replace"
what Madonna was in 80s and 90s, but on entire new, more artificial {not sure if
I'm using the right word here}, disturbing level, and I just do not trust this..er, level.
Totally totally agree with you on that. She is so disturbing and I don't like her and her music.
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Love Gaga ... I think her music and her creativity is fabulous.
PLUS she doesn't give a shit what people think about her and she does what she wants creatively, politically and socially. Good on her I say, the world needs more young artists with her type of thinking at the moment.
She is shoving the Illuminati symbolism right back in their faces for a good reason.
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I think she is part of the hoax somehow... remember that it was said that she would open This is It shows? I personally think that this past she is talking about is not about MJ, it's about herself. But It is very suspicious that she said BAM, and her twitter message when she released this video...she usually does not write the exact minutes, seconds, and frames when she premiers her videos, but this time she decided to be so detailed , that i could not help, but notice.
@ladygaga
Lady Gaga
I will release 1 min 47 seconds & 18 frames of "MARRY THE NIGHT: THE PRELUDE PATHÉTIQUE" The full prelude is 7 min 33 seconds & 15 frames.
1minute = 60 seconds; 1second=24 frames. So:
1x24x60 = 1440 47x24= 1128 1440 + 1128 + 18 = 2586 -> 2+5+8+6 = 21 (refering to the first minute and 47 seconds of the prelude)
7x24x60=10080 33x24=792 10080+792+15 = 10887 -> 1+0+8+8+7 = 24 (refering to the full prelude)
Well, 21 is a number that appears many times in the hoax right, because 21 = 7+7+7. I don't know what this 24 means, though. Since she says BAM at the 1:21 on this video, which is a part of the full prelude, maybe, at some point, in the full prelude in the second 24 there will be some kind of clue. Like it can be at 2:24, or 3:24, or 4:24, and so on.... I think this is a possibility.
She also said on twitter that this prelude is related to the Beethoven's Pathetique Symphony, while replying to one person who asked if it was related to Tchaikovsky's. We know that MJ is a big fan of Tchaikovsky. There you have more coincidences going around.
@ladygaga
Lady Gaga
Beethoven's RT @MonsterDano RT @ladygaga Is the 'Prelude Pathqetique' inspired by Tchaikovsky's Pathetique Symphony?
If you want to check yourself, go to her twitter page.
@ Aidan_81 I am her fan, i believe she is not part of Illuminati, and I am not gay... and yet, i see what she does, and I even get to notice when she lies too, which sometimes gets me annoyed, but i know she does it for good reasons. Like you said, if she doesn't go around doing their game, they may want to sabotage her, right? I know most of her fans don't pay attention to such things, though.
Regarding M, yes Gaga is influenced by her, but the problem is that the media twists everything. Remember how there were many sites writing that Born this Way is a rip off of Express Yourself. The songs are not alike, not even the lyrics. And many people keep repeating this again and again, like robots. Why won't you stop and realize these songs are not similar? There are many other pop female stars influenced by M, yet the media only wants to bring to our attention all the time how there is always a link between what Gaga does and Madonna. I think it's annoying and unfair, it is not like Gaga deserves to be in the shadows of Madonna forever.
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I love Gaga I think she comes up with amazing ideas she says what she thinks and does not seem to care what others think of her she is one step ahead of the press the above video is very strange and seems to lead to Michael she is the only other person other than Michael that I would want to go and see I just wonder why she did that video
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Are some of you serious? She is *not* occult affiliated? Right. And they do push for gays to be accepted, there is info on this out there.
I do think she is talented though and I like some of her music; not sure if this is MJ related though. Why would so many random people be in the know, does it not defeat the purpose?
Maybe some of you would like to visit www.vigilantcitizen.com for interesting info from someone who worked in the industry.
Edit: Coincidently, TS just said this in the TIAI thread:
"Just because someone is an actor, does not mean they are in on the hoax--otherwise, almost all of Hollywood (plus all other actors around the world) are in on the hoax." --I think that applies here and everywhere.
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Okay, she's not evil, but as hardcore vegetarian I stopped following her career
after the meat dress :lol:
I can't see her without seeing meat dress now ::P whatever that image stands for, maybe
it was pro-vegetarian lol, but it still makes me sick because it's in my nature to feel sick in the
presence of excessive raw meat fresse/
Don't care if she's "weird", it's just acting to get attention and part of the picked image,
but media will do MJ thing to her if she's not with real "world leaders", wait and see.
It might be big and bad on her if she keeps "exposing" whatever she tries to.
But.. I think she's safe for now, as most of her fandom must be young gay crowds and no way
they "read between the lines", they simply admire shockingly high fashion [well, okay, I have friends
like that and that's all they want from her, "off the wall" imagery. MJ was directly exposing things
and most of his fans completely missed it while he was around, Lady does it waaay too
cryptic for her fans to "see"].
Still, I won't be surprised if one day tabloids explode with some hating BS about that girl.
If she's not with "them", she's indeed a perfect target.
[and yeah, as Madonna fan through 80s and 90s, I will be doing comparisons non-stop,
I know Madonna's work too good to avoid that obvious reference. Sorry. It's not good,
it's not bad, it is what it is. Probably another natural showbiz thing, guess she grew up
with Madonna's work like us all and is heavily inspired by her. We all take something
from our idols, be it looks or habits.]
i dont hate gaga. but i was offended at the meat dress. i too am a vegetarian. but that was not why i was offended.
i was offended at the disregard for food, considering that there are starving men / women and children all over the world who dont know where or how they are are going to get their next meal...
sad... an artist gets to be cutting edge, dramatic, taboo, ground breaking with a commodity of a meat dress... yet by the time you read this post a child has died of hunger
not blaming gaga. it saddens and infuriates me that the world is just so unjust!
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i was offended at the disregard for food, considering that there are starving men / women and children all over the world who dont know where or how they are are going to get their next meal...
sad... an artist gets to be cutting edge, dramatic, taboo, ground breaking with a commodity of a meat dress... yet by the time you read this post a child has died of hunger
- agree totally, this too. Just ain't right, on many levels :|
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Are some of you serious? She is *not* occult affiliated? Right. And they do push for gays to be accepted, so some should read a little more.
I do think she is talented though and I like her music; not sure if this is MJ related though. Why would so many random people be in the know, does it not defeat the purpose?
Maybe some of you would like to visit www.vigilantcitizen.com for interesting info from someone who worked in the industry.
Edit: Coincidently, TS just said this in the TIAI thread:
"Just because someone is an actor, does not mean they are in on the hoax--otherwise, almost all of Hollywood (plus all other actors around the world) are in on the hoax." --I think that applies here and everywhere.
What about gays? they should be accepted as everyone else, because what matters in someone is their character, not their sexuality. I fail to see why accepting gays is a bad thing or a Illuminati thing. If anything, the Illuminati would fuel an endless debate over this sexuality thing, because then people would be concerned over this, instead of more important things that happen everyday. I don't like this site Vigilant citizen, it's full of BS, and yes, I've read stuff from there before.
Gaga is not an actor...although she has acting skills. Well, if you would read again the thread, you would find out why it is possibly related to this hoax...
edit: I forgot to add something. On the thanksgiving program she did on the 24th, she did a cover of Orange Colored Sky... and if you don't know the lyrics for this song, please, google it. You will find "This is it" there. One more coincidence? Let's add this one to our list.
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@Mjonmymind
Very good point. It makes a lot of sense, although I don't like Gaga. Seeing part of the Alejandro video was enough to stop following anything about her.
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@FarAway I actually never said anything about my personal feelings regarding ones sexuality, I am in fact fine with it more then you know.
But there are many reasons that they push that agenda or any agenda. If it being called an agenda offends anyone that is not MY intent, but just because some disagree does not mean they are homophobic.
Regardless of personal beliefs; they want to turn people away from God and The Bible and this hoax has alot to do with Michaels belief in it (The Bible) and possibly wanting people to understand it better. These are facts, not my personal opinion. I do feel *everyone* should be accepted, I just don't agree with other sinister motives.
And yes, it's just a coincidence in my opinion.
Oh, and the actor quote, was meant as a reference of sorts. She is a singer yes, just substitute the word "actor" with "singer" ;).
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Sorry if i misunderstood you. I don't think being homosexual is a sin. It's just part of one's individuality. What makes you sin is when you are promiscuous, when you steal, and these sort of things... God loves all human beings, and if homosexuality brings two people to love themselves, why would it be a sin?
And regarding this agenda. What exactly do you mean. What will they gain from this?
Did you see her new video? Stop the video at 7:07 and see it!
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Here's the full version:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cggNqDAtJYU&feature=g-logo[/youtube]
She's definitely unique!
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It's quite alright FarAway and I agree; which is why I've had certain hang ups about religion (for example: "praying away the gay" *eye roll*). I don't think homosexuality is understood today in religions, but I understand the Biblical reasoning if that makes sense.
As for the agenda, it depends on your religious beliefs I suppose, but if you research a bit about it you can draw your own conclusions. I prefer to let you make up your mind about it than have me tell you my perspective that's all. There are some interesting comments on it on the VigilantCitizen website under the Lady GaGa article about her relationship with her father though.
I personally don't think the video has anything to do with MJ, but rather as she said, her stint in the hospital. I do actually like the song and vid though, definitely unique.
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This is what videos used to be in in the eighties, what MJ started.
She is telling a story, how she was dumped her music company.
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I just read the VigilantCitizen out of curiosty to see what they wrote about her father. That's not true at all. And i think that's very disrespectful. She just loves her dad very much. Usually the daugther is very close to her father, but not in a sexual way, of course. It's just the love of father and daughter, people are blowing this out of proportion, and in a gross way. I noticed there is a lot of misinformation on that site. It's easy to distort everything like this. At a point, on their article they write something like "says a source"... What source? I could made that up too! I mean, anyone can put up a blog, make up a story, and it would be "true" as well. That's why i don't believe anything there. They don't even know how to spell her name correctly. It's Stefani, not Stefanie -- this is very basic stuff, if they don't even research how to spell her name correctly, let alone other stuff (they misspelled it on the VMA article). That sounds more like a bunch of tabloid stuff put together, honestly. I tried to be as unbiased as possible while reading, but I didn't change my opinion about this site.
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I wasn't speaking on the relationship she has with her father, but rather the agenda we spoke of earlier. Perhaps there is an unwillingness to accept coincidences when they revolve around something you don't want to believe?
I notice this alot, when it comes to artists, government, major world events etc., which have too many connections surrounding them to be brushed off as mere coincidences, simply because we might not like to hear the truth. Just like in this case of Michael's hoax, there are far too many coincidences that they can't be coincidences, yet people refuse to accept them because they don't want to believe it.
I don't agree it's a 'tabloid' site, but rather informative and allows the reader to form their own conclusion with the information as they wish. You are allowed to believe in whatever you like though and I respect it.