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Hoax Theories => Michael's Reasons to hoax his death => Topic started by: Dontwalkaway on November 11, 2011, 12:15:13 PM

Title: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: Dontwalkaway on November 11, 2011, 12:15:13 PM
We need to investigate the significane of water.  After all the new golden age that is coming is called the age of aquarius.  This means aqua or water.  The symbol for it is a man carrying a jug of water.  Michael repeats the word "water" in the movie This Is It.  We all know he does everything for a reason.

Anyway I have been seeing many videos about light and light codes and DNA and carbon molecules and vibration changing on earth but lately I've seen things about "water".    On the thread "New Jesus-Mark my words" we talked about everything being energy etc.

It's interesting that water can change it's structure according to vibrations in music.  Polluted water has a different structure than non-polluted water.  It's one thing besides oxygen that we cannot live without.  It can bring things back to life such as flowers, plants etc.  Also, in one of the videos it was saying that sunlight purifies, and benefits the structure of the water.  They also said that our body is mostly water.  Maybe information is stored in the water (molecular structure and patterns) just like in light and just like in DNA.  Maybe it's all the same.  Furthermore, they said that our brain has to have water.  Maybe the memories are stored in the water.  Our pineal gland is filled with water also.  This is where dreams take place.

It may be that information from the light is being transferred to the water ???   I am not a scientist but I would like to study science.  I think water is way more significant than what we learned about in school.  After that there is oxygen.

I started to think about water because of all the songs about "rain" and "purple rain".  Maybe this is part of it.  Information and life force from the heavens is sent to us in rain or water.  Maybe "purple", light information is easily sent through water or stored in the water.  Watch the Freedom Movie where they talk about water.  Various people talk about light such as David Wilcock and others.

Peace, Love, Light
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on November 11, 2011, 01:02:02 PM
I think it's very good of you to bring 'water' up and its meaning. I wondered too why Michael was saying 'water..water' in This Is It. Like you said, he must have said it for a reason. Water means purification, curity, cleansing and forgiveness. You can't go further or change without forgiveness and love. We cannot live and love without water.
Im recalling TS's redirect "Many waters cannot quench love, neither can the floods drown it." Song of Solomon 8:7
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=17851.0 which is interesting too.

This article 'The meaning of water in dreams', which I kept in store because I found it interesting, is about the symbolism of water and dreams.
           

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The Meaning of Water in Dreams – A Scientific Analysis

Posted in July 5, 2010

Too much water in dreams means lack of spirituality and lack of faith. It means materialism, and the doubt that there is another dimension in the human life beyond what belongs to Earth. In this case the dreamer will see a flood.

This symbolism was discovered by Carl Jung who examined many ancient documents, understanding that the water represents the spirit that instead of being composed by air, becomes liquid. The spirit becomes water when the dreamer doesn’t believe in the spiritual life.

Water is heavy and lives imprisoned on Earth, while the spirit is light and it can fly everywhere.

A flood in a dream is a serious warning that tries to awaken the dreamer. Life doesn’t begin on Earth and it doesn’t end here. The prevailing materialistic and atheistic concepts are far from being based on the truth. As recent scientific discoveries in many different fields reveal, when related one to another, the truth about the meaning of life and death is very complex. Because the scientific world of our time had not yet discovered how to identify the abstract presence of the human spirit this doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist.

The scientific translation of the meaning of dreams confirms the existence of the human spirit through many ways. Since all the information we receive in dream messages is always accurate and objective, as we can verify in many circumstances, we must believe in this source of information even when we cannot verify its validity. The dream messages are accurate and valid; however, the average person is ignorant of the process required to access, channel, and verify dream content.

Too much water in a dream shows the dreamer that what is happening in his or her life is very important and has another dimension. Everything contributes to the benefit of one’s spiritual evolution.
 
We are not merely animals that have an ephemeral existence. Everything in our life works as a process of transformation and preparation for the continuation of our evolutionary process.

This means that everything that happens in your life has a purpose.

Therefore:

- Don’t lose hope if you are suffering, because you are not suffering in vain. Something good will arise from your pain.

- Don’t be shallow by caring only about your daily life and your obligations. You must care also about your spiritual evolution, the perfection of your personality, and your salvation from the hell of regret.

Water in dreams has a different meaning when the dreamer sees only a few drops.

A few drops of water represent forgiveness. These drops represent the cleaning effect of water. Water washes up all sins, all the pain, the dust of the past, and everything that was bad.

Usually only the dreamers who will care about seriously translating the meaning of their dreams will see water appearing in the form of a few drops.

Most dreamers see too much water in their dreams because they are too shallow and superficial, and because they are far from being able to forgive their enemies.

Only those who have enough spiritual enlightenment automatically forgive their enemies, without ever thinking about revenge.

You should learn how to translate the meaning of your dreams so that the wise unconscious mind may guide you and show you how you can transform your personality.

I simplified Jung’s complicated method of dream interpretation. Now you can simply translate images into words, immediately understanding the unconscious messages.

Thanks to this knowledge, you’ll attain spiritual perfection, complete consciousness and real wisdom.

 
Christina Sponias continued Carl Jung’s research into the human psyche, discovering the cure for all mental illnesses, and simplifying the scientific method of dream interpretation that teaches you how to exactly translate the meaning of your dreams, so that you can find health, wisdom and happiness.

http://scientificdreaminterpretation.com/blog/?p=807

L.O.V.E. always
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: applehead250609 on November 11, 2011, 01:53:33 PM
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We need to investigate the significane of water.  After all the new golden age that is coming is called the age of aquarius.  This means aqua or water.  The symbol for it is a man carrying a jug of water.  Michael repeats the word "water" in the movie This Is It.  We all know he does everything for a reason.

Anyway I have been seeing many videos about light and light codes and DNA and carbon molecules and vibration changing on earth but lately I've seen things about "water".    On the thread "New Jesus-Mark my words" we talked about everything being energy etc.

It's interesting that water can change it's structure according to vibrations in music.  Polluted water has a different structure than non-polluted water.  It's one thing besides oxygen that we cannot live without.  It can bring things back to life such as flowers, plants etc.  Also, in one of the videos it was saying that sunlight purifies, and benefits the structure of the water.  They also said that our body is mostly water.  Maybe information is stored in the water (molecular structure and patterns) just like in light and just like in DNA.  Maybe it's all the same.  Furthermore, they said that our brain has to have water.  Maybe the memories are stored in the water.  Our pineal gland is filled with water also.  This is where dreams take place.

It may be that information from the light is being transferred to the water ???   I am not a scientist but I would like to study science.  I think water is way more significant than what we learned about in school.  After that there is oxygen.

I started to think about water because of all the songs about "rain" and "purple rain".  Maybe this is part of it.  Information and life force from the heavens is sent to us in rain or water.  Maybe "purple", light information is easily sent through water or stored in the water.  Watch the Freedom Movie where they talk about water.  Various people talk about light such as David Wilcock and others.

Peace, Love, Light

God bless you Dontwalkaway  :)!! Finally someone who wants to discover THE WONDERS of life!!!!
I had already posted THE FREEDOM movie but nobody,beside you and Mj4ever777 saw it.OMG that documentary it's a real "BATH" to the soul,it's wonderful!!


The Freedom Movie 2 [Full Length]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIf0XcVzWlI[/youtube]

Yes is SOMETHING with the WATER,and I feel is something BIG  8-)!!! Bruce Lee also talked about WATER,and I saw O Bee has it on his youtube channel  ;).Look here,he is very wise  8-) :

Be Water
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ijCSu87I9k&feature=related[/youtube]
Bruce Lee - Be Water My Friend
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVGE-NcJxu8&feature=related[/youtube]

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Empty your mind...Be formless, shapeless, like water. Now you put water into a cup it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle it becomes the bottle, you put water into a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash, be water my friend... - Bruce Lee

I know that what I'm about to say will sound CRAZY  :?,but I think that water has MEMORY  8-)! I have something for you,a movie called "Mistery of water".Before I will say more ,please remember that in THE BEGINING,when God created Earth,WATER was everywere  8-).And more than that Michael had to do his concerts at O2 arena,so it has something with H20 ,O2 and O2=oxigen thanks from his room!!!!
In this amazing film, Water, the Great Mystery, we can see that science has made a quantum leap(Michael also has a poen called Quantm Leap in Dancing the Dream book) into understanding how mind can be recorded by the most simple element in nature (water) and on the periodic table: H20. If water has memory, and its main component being hydrogen, then the whole universe would have memory. Hydrogen was born between 100 and 1,000 seconds after the big bang. It makes up 75% of the known mass of the universe and now is part of the missing mass equation.


Water - The Great Mystery (Full Version)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c6xbIA4AzQ[/youtube]

Dontwalkaway I really like to discuss to you more about this SUBJECT,so let's do it ok???
LOVE you!!!!
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: mjj4ever777 on November 11, 2011, 03:39:50 PM
Thanks for posting this video Applehead...My husband and I will watch it and reply later. The pieces of the puzzle are falling into place...Blessings and LOVE to you and Dontwalkaway!!!!
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: applehead250609 on November 11, 2011, 04:42:48 PM
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Thanks for posting this video Applehead...My husband and I will watch it and reply later. The pieces of the puzzle are falling into place...Blessings and LOVE to you and Dontwalkaway!!!!

You're WELCOME  :)!!! You know I feel that no one will watch this and you know it mjj4ever  :cry:!!! There are so many beautiful things to LEARN "OUT THERE",but it's like this things are INVISSIBLE  :(.People don't care to SEE THE TRUTH and this hurts very much.
No matter what I will still continue on my path  :) .I LOVE you!!!
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: Dontwalkaway on November 11, 2011, 05:19:08 PM
Applehead thank you so much for posting these videos.  I loved the one about the mystery of water.  Don't worry people will eventually see it.  It's too bad that sometimes a crisis or problem has to occur for people to pay attention.  Sometimes even a "death" or something. 

I don't think it is crazy that you said that you think water has memory.  That's what they are talking about in the video.  There is information in the water due to it's structure.  The structure changes according to vibration and even thoughts are vibration.  We rely on water for everything on this planet, so if we change our water we are changing everything on the planet and this can include the weather.  Everything is connected.  We would solve so many health problems also if we had healthy water.  It's amazing.  I am like you.  I wish people could see it faster before disaster happens.

Also, what you wrote about hydrogen is interesting.  Water is mostly hydrogen.  Hydrogen and Oxygen are both elements on the periodic table.  Water is a compound made out of those two elements, (two hydrogen and one oxygen).    I think Oxygen is number 8 but I'm not sure I have to look.  According to SimPattyK on this website that is Elvis' number and also resembles the symbol for eternity. 

It seems like water has memory or information and so does light.  Everything is connected and everything is effected by vibration.  I noticed the video about 528 hz changing the structure of water.  This is also the frequency that changes the structure of DNA.    The earth is vibrating faster so everything on earth will also vibrate faster and change. 

It would be great to discuss this with you Applehead.   Love you too !!!!!         ::P

Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: hesouttamylife on November 11, 2011, 08:11:27 PM
The significance of water and referring to Michael as a baby and then as the thriller monster might have some significance in the dawning of the age of Aquarius whereas the God Horus will rule following the rule of the father.  So who in this drama is considered to be “the demon”?  Horus is also considered the age of the child.


Horus

 
There is a story in Egyptian mythology that goes like this: The goddess Isis married her older brother Osiris and they were deeply in love. Set, a demon of envy, set about to destroy their happiness. Set murdered Osiris. Then, to prevent the possibility of his resurrection, he dismembered Osiris' body and scattered the parts in various places along the Nile River. When Isis learned what Set had done, she asked Troth, the god of Eternity, to stop the flow of time for a while. With time stopped, Isis traveled up and down the banks of the Nile, recovering all of Osiris' body parts before the sun set. When she found all of them, she performed the Black Rite, bringing Osiris back to life. After that eternity gave birth to Time again, and history continued on. Horus is the child of this love between Isis and Osiris.

In his introduction to The Book of the Law, a brilliant and catastrophic work penned in 1904, Aleister Crowley described the world from the eyes of the occultist. He said the world is entering the Age of Horus, and therefore is going through a period of violent change.
 
Crowley explained that certain vast stars, or "aggregates of experience," may be described as gods. Each god has been in charge of the destinies of the Earth for periods of about 2,000 years. In the history of the world, Crowley said it is believed there have only been three such Gods. They are:
 
--"Isis, the mother, when the Universe was conceived as simple nourishment drawn directly from her; this period is marked by matriarchal government." In other words, women ruled the governments of the world. They were seen as goddesses.
 
--Osiris, the father, began his reign about 500 BC. At this time the Universe was imagined as catastrophic. Crowley said love, death and resurrection were the ways by which individuals built up experience. Kings ruled the earth during this period.
 
--Now Horus, the child, is coming into power. Crowley wrote: "this period involves the recognition of the individual as the unit of society. Every event, including death, is only one more accretion to our experience, freely willed by ourselves from the beginning and therefore also predestined."
 
Horus is a combination of twin gods called Ra-Hoor-Khuit and Hoor-Paar-Kraat. He is symbolized as a hawk-headed god when on his throne.
 
Remember that Crowley wrote the following description of the regime under Horus in 1904. He said:
 
"Everywhere his government is taking root. Observe for yourselves the decay of the sense of sin, the growth of innocence and irresponsibility, the strange modifications of the reproductive instinct with a tendency to become bi-sexual or epicene, the childlike confidence in progress combined with a nightmare fear of catastrophe, against which we are yet half unwilling to take precautions. Consider the outcrop of dictatorships, only possible when moral growth is in its earliest stages, and the prevalence of infantile cults like Communism, Fascism, Pacifism, health crazes, occultism in nearly all its forms, religions sentimentalized to a point of practical extinction. Consider the populatiry of the cinema, the wireless, the football pools and guessing competitions, all devices for soothing fractious infants, no seed of purpose in them. Consider sport, the babyish enthusiasms and rages which it excites, whole nations disturbed by disputes between  boys. Consider war, the atrocities which occur daily and leave us unmoved and hardly worried. We are children."   
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: Dontwalkaway on November 11, 2011, 08:42:28 PM
Thank you for summarizing the myth.    Would the age of Horus be ending if the age of aquarius was starting ?  What does this have to do with water ?   Sorry, but now I'm confused.      bangbang        /cook/
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: 2good2btrue on November 11, 2011, 08:56:23 PM
02 arena......water symbol H20....connections to Philip Aschultz......the wanna be murderer

Joe and LaToya Jackson will talk about the Conspiracy that Killed Michael, but they do not have the courage to name names behind the illusions and smoked mirrors for they too are bounded by the same Luciferian Blood Oath of Secrecy for Fame and Fortune.

Philip is your man..........God Bless
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: Dontwalkaway on November 11, 2011, 09:15:12 PM
We need more information about Anshutz.    How do you know he's the man ?         /overreacting/               /scream/
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: mjj4ever777 on November 11, 2011, 09:24:38 PM
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Thanks for posting this video Applehead...My husband and I will watch it and reply later. The pieces of the puzzle are falling into place...Blessings and LOVE to you and Dontwalkaway!!!!

You're WELCOME  :)!!! You know I feel that no one will watch this and you know it mjj4ever  :cry:!!! There are so many beautiful things to LEARN "OUT THERE",but it's like this things are INVISSIBLE  :(.People don't care to SEE THE TRUTH and this hurts very much.
No matter what I will still continue on my path  :) .I LOVE you!!!


 That is all that matters, just continue on "your" path and keep providing your guidance, that is all we can do. The "choice" is up to them, so patience my sweet one...patience. I know how you feel, but each soul must take their own journey. Don't worry, and don't forget to nourish the LOVE within. LIVE LOVE!

I will be working on a very long post, so if you don't see me posting as much, know that I am always with you. I LOVE YOU!

I LOVE all of you!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: applehead250609 on November 11, 2011, 09:40:32 PM
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02 arena......water symbol H20....connections to Philip Aschultz......the wanna be murderer

Joe and LaToya Jackson will talk about the Conspiracy that Killed Michael, but they do not have the courage to name names behind the illusions and smoked mirrors for they too are bounded by the same Luciferian Blood Oath of Secrecy for Fame and Fortune.

Philip is your man..........God Bless

Oh God I can't believe this  :lol:!!! Yes ,yes we already know that ILLUMINATI and Hollywood mafia killed Michael geek/  :lol:  remember???? Murray good friend Willie Hampton told us so what   :??? I don't want to offend you but please go back in your ILLUSION,aka WONDERLAND ,aka DEAD END  /cook/ and stay there forever,because you  really scare me with your blood sacrifice crap  bounce/  :lol:!!!

Doctor Conrad MURDER,mmm excuse me MURRAY ,lol  :lol:!!!!!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHrA9gSlpkU[/youtube]
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: applehead250609 on November 12, 2011, 02:32:49 PM
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Thanks for posting this video Applehead...My husband and I will watch it and reply later. The pieces of the puzzle are falling into place...Blessings and LOVE to you and Dontwalkaway!!!!

You're WELCOME  :)!!! You know I feel that no one will watch this and you know it mjj4ever  :cry:!!! There are so many beautiful things to LEARN "OUT THERE",but it's like this things are INVISSIBLE  :(.People don't care to SEE THE TRUTH and this hurts very much.
No matter what I will still continue on my path  :) .I LOVE you!!!


 That is all that matters, just continue on "your" path and keep providing your guidance, that is all we can do. The "choice" is up to them, so patience my sweet one...patience. I know how you feel, but each soul must take their own journey. Don't worry, and don't forget to nourish the LOVE within. LIVE LOVE!

I will be working on a very long post, so if you don't see me posting as much, know that I am always with you. I LOVE YOU!

I LOVE all of you!!!!!!!!!!


Mjj4ever777 thank you very much for all the LOVE you show me  :).I will never stop doing what I HAVE TO and LOVE is one of it.It's not problem for me if you will not post often,because I will not also.I'm very curious on what are you working  :?: :idea: .I wish you good luck,and all THE LOVE in the world !!!
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: applehead250609 on November 12, 2011, 02:40:50 PM
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Applehead thank you so much for posting these videos.  I loved the one about the mystery of water.  Don't worry people will eventually see it.  It's too bad that sometimes a crisis or problem has to occur for people to pay attention.  Sometimes even a "death" or something. 

I don't think it is crazy that you said that you think water has memory.  That's what they are talking about in the video.  There is information in the water due to it's structure.  The structure changes according to vibration and even thoughts are vibration.  We rely on water for everything on this planet, so if we change our water we are changing everything on the planet and this can include the weather.  Everything is connected.  We would solve so many health problems also if we had healthy water.  It's amazing.  I am like you.  I wish people could see it faster before disaster happens.

Also, what you wrote about hydrogen is interesting.  Water is mostly hydrogen.  Hydrogen and Oxygen are both elements on the periodic table.  Water is a compound made out of those two elements, (two hydrogen and one oxygen).    I think Oxygen is number 8 but I'm not sure I have to look.  According to SimPattyK on this website that is Elvis' number and also resembles the symbol for eternity. 

It seems like water has memory or information and so does light.  Everything is connected and everything is effected by vibration.  I noticed the video about 528 hz changing the structure of water.  This is also the frequency that changes the structure of DNA.    The earth is vibrating faster so everything on earth will also vibrate faster and change. 

It would be great to discuss this with you Applehead.   Love you too !!!!!         ::P

Dontwalkaway you're welcome and please don't listen to that stupid things and negative stuff about illuminati.It is just to make you feel scared and to control true FEAR.Please listen you your heart and most important feel LOVE  :) .
Take care and much health to you and your family!!!
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: wishingstar on November 12, 2011, 03:00:36 PM
Hey Applehead......I am actually very interested in the whole water topic.  I just haven't had enough dedicated time to watch these...yet.  I don't like being interrupted and having to stop, re-start etc.  Being an Aquarian, I come by a love of water naturally.....I have to be around it for some reason, see it, hear it etc.  Thank you very much for posting these.....I appreciate it very much.

Blessings
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: emeraldcity on November 12, 2011, 07:11:04 PM
"The symbolic emblem of Aquarius is the water bearer, who kneels as he pours forth his offering of water in an act of modest service. Although classified as an air sign according to its elemental qualities, Aquarius is in many ways the forgotten 'water sign', with its name simply meaning 'related to water', and much of its symbolic signification emerging from the water bearer's act of libation (act of pouring water as a sacrifice). But the free flowing water-symbolism of Aquarius bears no relation to the heavily pregnant ocean of the psyche as portrayed by the signs of the water triplicity (Cancer/Scorpio/Pisces); for in libation the Aquarian seeks only to cleanse, illuminate and purify."

We are moving from the Age of Pisces, a water sign,  into the Age of Aquarius, an air sign with symbolic links to water.  We are also moving from the Twelfth House, the house of confinement and all things hidden, into the Eleventh House, which is traditionally known as the house of friends, hopes and wishes, goals and ideals. It is where we seek to join together with like-minded others. Here we meet those with whom we associate while cooperating towards a common goal or cause. It is the ideals that bind us when we create together as a group.  So we are moving from an Age where all things were hidden, to an Age where all that was hidden is revealed and there is nowhere left to hide. It is an Age where those who are true seekers will become spiritually enlightened and shake off all the illusion that has kept us from seeing the Truth of our purpose here on Earth.

Thanks Applehead for starting this discussion ... it's fascinating! I am planning to watch the film "Freedom" later on today.  Thanks so much for your wonderful insights  /bravo/ Love to you all, your friend always, Emerald xxxx
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: YouRnotAlone7 on November 12, 2011, 07:21:37 PM
In the movie V for Vendetta:::  "God is in the water!"
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: Dontwalkaway on November 12, 2011, 07:30:35 PM
Yes, YouRnotalone,

Evey says "God is in the rain".  What do you think it means ?  Do you think it's like a life force ?  It's almost like sunlight.
 or maybe it will just "wake people up "


Love
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: emeraldcity on November 13, 2011, 12:22:51 AM
Found this article which shows the effects of positive and negative thoughts, emotions and sounds on the crystalline structure of water.  Thought some of you might find it interesting  :|


"One of the most heart stopping investigations about water properties is Dr. Masay Emoto's that proved that human thought, emotions and sounds can change water crystal's shape.  Dr Emoto's investigation included taping words or people's names to the bottles, playing music to them or exposing them to floral essences.

Other effects that Dr. Emoto claims to have found in his research include:

That the same sentiment expressed in different languages produces different crystal formations:

Water from clear mountain springs and streams show beautiful crystalline structures, while polluted or stagnant water is deformed and distorted.

Distilled water exposed to classical music takes on a delicate symmetrical crystalline shape.

Water that´s bombarded with heavy metal music, negative thoughts and emotions, or is labeled with negative words, look ugly.

Water treated with aromatic floral oils tends to mimic the shape of the original flower.

The same effect produces exposing water crystals to negative words or ideas.

Another very interesting experiment was to tape the words "You Fool" to a recipient of distilled water. The pattern is almost identical to the pattern that produced the heavy metal music, and Dr. Masaru Emoto wonders whether perhaps heavy metal musicians look upon people as fools.

Dr. Emoto's amazing experiments tells us that even when we can´t see immediate results for our prayers and mind control exercises, the energy of our thoughts surround us. When we love ourselves our bodies respond, when we send love to our neighbor their bodies respond, and when we send love to the Earth, she responds, because our bodies are 70 percent water and the Earth´s surface is also 70 percent water.

Water is far from inanimate, water is conscious of what surrounds it, of our thoughts and of our feelings, though you can heal yourself and your planet if you only believe that you can.

When you use the power of your mind to project positive feelings, the water that's everywhere around you and inside you, will receive positive, natural, spiritual and healing information, that will store in its molecules and will broadcast to other molecules, giving love peace and health to yourself and all that you project your love to."

http://en.drbonomi.com/articles/How-To-Change-Water-s-Conscience-With-Mind-Control-.html
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: wishingstar on November 13, 2011, 12:36:38 AM
@emeraldcity....I've always wondered why I've felt the need to be around water if Aquarius is actually an air sign...... 
Thanks for the post........

Blessings
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: Dontwalkaway on November 13, 2011, 01:01:15 PM
Beautiful post EmeraldCity !!!!   This demonstrates further that everything is connected.  Out thoughts, feelings, emotions are also energy that effects everything. 

I have been having headaches on and off for weeks !!!!  I know part of it probably was bad habits such as drinking and eating the wrong things, and not sleeping well and letting stress get to me.    Well, after talking and thinking about light, water, love vibration etc.,  I went to the drug store and bought spring water.  The tap water I keep drinking doesn't seem to help.  It's city water. 

I played Heal the World a few times and then "Will You Be There"  of the Dangerous CD that I have and drank the spring water.   So far, no headache for two days !!!!!   In the past I might have an energy drink, more coffee, aspirins, sugar or whatever.  Those things help for an hour or so and then you feel worse.  Sometimes we are just stressed and dehydrated.  We have just lost track of doing basic, simple, common sense things.

What do you give your plant that is dying ?   You give it sunlight and water.  Sometimes we need that too because we're all made out of the same thing.    We are not separate from the world.

Just thought I would share the story because it might help someone else.  Sometimes you just have to stop for a minute and do the basic simple things.  It's making me feel so much better. 

Love, Peace, Light                bounce/         P.S- I noticed that Heal the World is Track 7, and Will You Be There is track 11 on the Dangerous CD that I have !!!!!!!    I don't know but I don't think it was a coincidence that 7 and 11 were used for these songs !!!!!!!!!!!!   Someone knows what they are doing !!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: emeraldcity on November 13, 2011, 05:12:11 PM
@Dontwalkaway, so thrilled that you found a natural way to stop the headaches!!  Have you watched the "The Freedom Movie" yet?  I started watching iit in individual parts on youtube last night and found it amazing - it really opened my eyes, especially the Spiritual Awakening sections.  Have posted links below to A Spiritual Awakening 10/12, 11/12, 12/12 - all about vibrations and sound and how it affects our bodies and every other organism on the planet.  We are truly an awesome creation!

I can remember we were told that the "Dangerous" album had lots of clues regarding the hoax.   Yes, I think the fact that those two songs (2 of my favourites!) were placed as 7th and 11th on the album.  It's all going to come together soon ... every piece of the jigsaw finally falling into place ... and what a most beautiful and amazing picture it's going to be.  Our creator is in control of it all and is using Michael in a very powerful way to get the message home to all our brothers & sisters on this planet ... the message that we are all ONE with All That Is and that we were created to give and receive unconditional LOVE   :!:

Sending out Love & Light ... Emerald xxxx   bearhug


http://youtu.be/vPBKmK3Xedk
http://youtu.be/2aY7MIvdb50
http://youtu.be/0QQ_xUrIgBs


P.S.  Thank you Applehead for bring this movie to my attention  /bravo/
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: Dontwalkaway on November 13, 2011, 05:52:31 PM
Thanks for the links Emaraldcity.  I watched some parts of the Freeedom Movie but not all of it.  I didn't know there were 19 parts.  I will watch some more of it tonight.   Thanks for sharing.   

Love and Light to all of you also.   
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: Sarahli on November 13, 2011, 05:56:32 PM
Thank you for sharing... this is all very interesting and honestly I want to drink water now. (http://www.iseesmileys.com/smileys/Summer/Drinking_Water.gif)

I had seen the experiences of this Japanese scientist and was amazed by his findings  :shock: ... these "crystals" of water are just beautiful. Water is alive and has a memory so we better behave in front of our glass of water. Having positive thoughts and pronouncing positive words have an effect, that's undeniable.

This movie is interesting and contains a lot of truths, great comments. I have never understood how we could heal someone with chemicals, considering that our bodies are mostly made of water. Natural medicine should be privileged it goes without saying. Water is necessary for life, without water there is no life possible. It even comes before food because we can live longer without eating but very shortly without drinking. So obviously water is important on the physical realm/aspect of our lives.

Water is purifying as well. So the new era coming "Aquarius" may be paralleled to what water is/represents and air as well.
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: YouRnotAlone7 on November 13, 2011, 06:01:02 PM
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Yes, YouRnotalone,

Evey says "God is in the rain".  What do you think it means ?  Do you think it's like a life force ?  It's almost like sunlight.
 or maybe it will just "wake people up "


Oops.....yes, it is "God is in the rain".....   I think Michael just wants us to look to God...to be aware of God?
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on November 14, 2011, 07:05:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHrA9gSlpkU&feature=player_embedded

oh erin, how i do hope you like the taste of hat... post bam, you are going to need to eat yours!
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: BeTheChange on November 14, 2011, 08:45:20 AM
@Applehead...thanks for posting The Freedom Movie, I finally got around to watching it and it was great!  Please keep posting the great vids you find...they ARE being watched and people all over the world are beginning to 'feel' that THIS (the way we've been 'living') is NOT it.

I find water fascinating as well...not only does it cover most of the planet, it is what WE are 'made up of' most.  If our thoughts, intentions, and actions can 'change' the molecular shape of water....it follows that OUR molecular shape (within our own bodies) 'changes' depending on our thoughts, intentions and actions.  AND...if that's the case, it is something completely under our own control.  We can choose to feel love (and end up with nice inner crystals lol)...or choose to feel hate (and have a not-so-pretty inner structure).  The ripple effect(s) of either choice are infinite.

I came across this series awhile back and have used it in the classroom with students.  There are several parts to it and all are interesting and worth the watch.  Given the topic of water, I'm including this part of the series, called "Spirit Science 6 - Flower of Life" because water, like everything in nature, holds the shape of creation....it is grounded in sacred geometry.  It truly is fascinating stuff....the 'answers' are all out there, it's just a matter of having the 'will' and 'skill' to find them and make 'sense' of them (not always an easy feat).

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7GJ-8SY068[/youtube]

With L.O.V.E. always.
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: Dontwalkaway on November 23, 2011, 02:46:57 PM
Thanks for the Video Bethechange !!!!!  Also, because you put that one on I found other Spirit Science videos which were good.  Also, I heard that water attaches to DNA.  Water and DNA work together.   

Love     bearhug
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: Dontwalkaway on November 26, 2011, 01:58:33 PM
I found out more information.  Thanks for the Spirit Science Videos.  The Chakras or energy centers in your body use/read light.  So you know how light can be divided by a prism into colors and frequencies.  The purple chakra is on the top near the top of your head and this one is responsible for spiritual aspects.  Each chakra center in your body uses a different color/frequency of light.  Each one takes care of a different aspect of your being. 

So talking about the purple and the purple rain.  If the rain comes down "purple" we will increase our spiritual knowledge.  Maybe it's not rain that will come down but just energy/light that will increase our spiritual knowledge.  We are supposed to keep getting waves of energy until we reach the next dimension/ higher frequency for earth.    They said in the video that if you wear that color you will attract that light frequency to your chakra.   You can even buy color to put in your bath water.  In the video they were putting purple liquid in the bath water to change it purple.     

I think I'm finally getting to understand the song "purple rain" and all of  this purple stuff and other colors too !!!!!!!!!

What do you all think ?

Peace and Love

Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: LoveShyMichael on December 23, 2011, 09:38:58 PM
REMEMBER--- WATER IS ESSESTIAL TO LIVING LIFE. WITHOUT WE ALL WILL DIE. THE SICK SCUM BAGS RUNNING THIS COUNTRY KNOW THAT IF THEY CONTROL THE WATER SUPPLY THEY CONTROL THE WORLD. THE BUSH'S PURCHASED THE LARGEST AQUAFOR IN AUSTRILIA.... WHY DO YOU THINK OUR LAKES AND STREAMS ARE DRY. THEY'VE ALSO BEEN SUCKED DRY AND SHIPPED IN LARGE BLADDERS TO CHINA AND PUT IN THEIR AQUAFOR
S AND BOTTLED AND SOLD BACK TO THE USA WITH ALL TOXIC WASTES ADDED TO THE BOTTLES. IT'S AMERICA. WHICH HAS BEEN HIJACKED!!!!!!!WAKE UP PEOPLE.
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: wishingstar on January 02, 2012, 11:02:09 PM
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@Applehead...thanks for posting The Freedom Movie, I finally got around to watching it and it was great!  Please keep posting the great vids you find...they ARE being watched and people all over the world are beginning to 'feel' that THIS (the way we've been 'living') is NOT it.

I find water fascinating as well...not only does it cover most of the planet, it is what WE are 'made up of' most.  If our thoughts, intentions, and actions can 'change' the molecular shape of water....it follows that OUR molecular shape (within our own bodies) 'changes' depending on our thoughts, intentions and actions.  AND...if that's the case, it is something completely under our own control.  We can choose to feel love (and end up with nice inner crystals lol)...or choose to feel hate (and have a not-so-pretty inner structure).  The ripple effect(s) of either choice are infinite.

I came across this series awhile back and have used it in the classroom with students.  There are several parts to it and all are interesting and worth the watch.  Given the topic of water, I'm including this part of the series, called "Spirit Science 6 - Flower of Life" because water, like everything in nature, holds the shape of creation....it is grounded in sacred geometry.  It truly is fascinating stuff....the 'answers' are all out there, it's just a matter of having the 'will' and 'skill' to find them and make 'sense' of them (not always an easy feat).

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7GJ-8SY068[/youtube]

With L.O.V.E. always.


 :shock:  Wow.....this is amazing stuff!  I love geometrics.....the artist in me, lol.  To this day, I love to sit and color geometric shapes.....the kid in me : )  Thank you for posting this video.....fascinating!
Here is an example of the pages I color:

http://www.coloring-pages-for-all-ages.com/geometric-coloring-pages.html

Have fun!
Blessings Always

Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: BeTheChange on January 03, 2012, 12:10:37 AM
@WishingStar...the whole series is worth watching...it covers a ton of fascinating stuff.  And thanks for the link to the geometric coloring pages...I'm gonna print them out and give them to my kids to color (they'll love them!)...I might even color one myself  ::P

With L.O.V.E. always.
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: MFFreedom on January 03, 2012, 03:32:08 AM
There is another aspect of Water in this whole awakening process. Considering Michaels' casual singing in TII of the word 'Water' while walking away from the camera, turning his back against the viewer, we also have to think of our industrialised world in terms of legal aspects. What is legal? What is LAWful? Legal or illegal is something that can be changed at the whimp of someones mood. Law cannot be changed. So, Legal are all statues and codes, GIVEN THE FORCE OF LAW. Law itself can never be changed. It is uninterpretable and is simple to understand. Now WATER stands for our legal system. The Law of Water (Admirality Law/Maritime Law) has taken over our courts of law on land without us knowing. Now, there might be some lawyers here disagreeing with me, as they have been taught otherwise. Our courts de jure have been changed into courts de facto. Which means administrative procedure has taken over. Is there just a hearing, then it is a court de facto - not a court de jure. An established court by procedure. The law of the land has been changed into the law of water. Which is all commercial. We are commercial entitiy. We take a plane, we are commercial good transported between two air'ports' with 'commerical' airplanes. As long as everything is happening in a commercial field we have to obey the rules. Water rules. But THIS particular rabbit hole goes much deeper. See f.e. Dean Clifford on YouTube and watch all there is to watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shs4mIcEqp8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shs4mIcEqp8)

There is still much to learn about the (legal) world we live in. MUCH as I am also just 4 years old in this matter.  :mrgreen: But the deception is even bigger than we can imagine. The world is NOT what it seems. Dean f.e. explains it. You will fall from your chair. 'WATER' we need to put down our fears of the legal world, walk away and take back our full responsibility. For now we have given our consent to be robbed by governments. Lose our fears and stop giving our consent and TPTB will fall apart.

Happy New Year to all of you from me for now,  michael-jackson/

Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: applehead250609 on January 16, 2012, 03:07:30 PM
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I found out more information.  Thanks for the Spirit Science Videos.  The Chakras or energy centers in your body use/read light.  So you know how light can be divided by a prism into colors and frequencies.  The purple chakra is on the top near the top of your head and this one is responsible for spiritual aspects.  Each chakra center in your body uses a different color/frequency of light.  Each one takes care of a different aspect of your being. 

So talking about the purple and the purple rain.  If the rain comes down "purple" we will increase our spiritual knowledge.  Maybe it's not rain that will come down but just energy/light that will increase our spiritual knowledge.  We are supposed to keep getting waves of energy until we reach the next dimension/ higher frequency for earth.    They said in the video that if you wear that color you will attract that light frequency to your chakra.   You can even buy color to put in your bath water.  In the video they were putting purple liquid in the bath water to change it purple.     

I think I'm finally getting to understand the song "purple rain" and all of  this purple stuff and other colors too !!!!!!!!!

What do you all think ?

Peace and Love

Dontwalkaway and MFFreedom thank you very much for this informations about WATER  bearhug  !!!! This is amazing cause WATER is one of the most impotrant thing to survive ,but unfortunatelly there are countries without CLEAN water  :( .
Here I found a very nice video ,but please drink as much water as you can,lol  :lol: cause it's a very "good thing" if we all start to dance like Michael, after that  :lol: :lol: :lol: bearhug !!!


Don't drink the Sweet Water- It can happen to you!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9wjXBzCdko[/youtube]

Ageing men drink the Sweet Water and transform into entertainment phenomena! Michael Jackson is alive and well in Jacksonville.
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on January 16, 2012, 05:22:39 PM
 WATER... I'm drinking water at this moment, but did you know that a long-time friend of Michael hadn't been drinking any water for 40 days because he was asking for truth and justice on Michael's death :shock:. This is the article:  

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Dick Gregory on Michael Jackson: 'I will fast for 40 days on nothing but water until..
* Reuters is not responsible for the content in this press release.
Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:51pm EDT


Dick Gregory on Michael Jackson: 'I will fast for 40 days on nothing but water
until the truth of how Michael died is revealed.'


WASHINGTON, July 29 /PRNewswire/ -- Dick Gregory, long-time friend of the late
Michael Jackson, will announce today that he will, "go on a fast on water only
for 40 days until the truth is uncovered  -- not just another story -- about
the sudden death of Michael Jackson, one of the world's most brilliant and
talented people."

"It's hard on folks to lose a loved one, especially someone so young as
Michael.  All I pray for now is that the truth will be told about what
happened and I don't think it has been yet but people deserve to know,"
Gregory said.  "There's so much that has been kept secret under the pretense
of what they call an 'ongoing investigation.'"

Gregory vowed to continue a daily prayer vigil and invited all those who loved
Michael Jackson to join him in prayer and meditation for the truth to come
out. respect/

Gregory will make a formal announcement about his 40 day long water fast this
evening on Mark Thompson's SiriusXM radio program, "Make It Plain," which
starts at 5 PM, EDT.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/07/29/idUS199285+29-Jul-2009+PRN20090729

I've great respect for Dick Gregory

I'm linking fasting 40 nights to:   

Quote
Moses fasted for forty days and forty nights, twice back-to-back, without food or water; the first, immediately before he received the tablets on the mountain with God. And the second, after coming down, seeing the Israelites practicing idolatry, and breaking the tablets in anger. (Deuteronomy 9:7-21)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasting

Quote
Moses was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant--the Ten Commandments
. http://bible.cc/deuteronomy/9-9.htm

 :geek: :arrow:..which brings me to TS's redirect about the Ark of the Covenant  http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=21729.0

 :arrow: the number 40 (40 days and 40 nights of fasting) in relation to water and their meaning:

Quote
The number forty is used by God to represent a period of testing or judgment (the length of time necessary to accomplish some major part of Gods plan in his dealings with various portions of mankind). The 40 days of rain in the days of the flood were the judgments of God. The 40 day periods of fasting, testing, and communing with God that were faced by Moses and Jesus were a form of God's judgments. The forty years that the Israelites spent in the wilderness were also the judgments of God. Various leaders in Israel who reigned for 40 year periods were put there BY God according to His Will and Judgments. Egypt was left desolate for 40 years because of God's judgments. I could go on and on, but I think these examples should suffice for now.
 
http://ecclesia.org/truth/40.html

L.O.V.E.

Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: Tink on January 18, 2012, 11:52:12 AM
You know, I rather enjoyed the "Flower of Life" video, from the Eye of Horus = Spirit, to the Periodic tables...until we got to their REAL agenda, of pushing ALIENS from outer space onto us, hoo boy!  :shock:
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: Andrea on January 18, 2012, 12:25:27 PM
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You know, I rather enjoyed the "Flower of Life" video, from the Eye of Horus = Spirit, to the Periodic tables...until we got to their REAL agenda, of pushing ALIENS from outer space onto us, hoo boy!  :shock:

I quite enjoyed that video as well...until the end.  Why couldn't the crop circles be signs from God instead of aliens?  Or 'spirit', as the video says.  I also think many crop circles are man-made for attention, but not necessarily all of them.  I've been meaning to watch that whole video series...
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: sunrise on January 18, 2012, 04:42:15 PM
"Type of Work:    Music
Registration Number / Date:    PAu003529721 / 2010-08-16
Application Title:    H20.
Title:    H20.
Description:    Electronic file (eService)
Copyright Claimant:    Theron Feemster III. Address: 16830 Ventura Blvd., Ste. 415, Encino, CA, 91436, United States.
The Michael Jackson Estate d.b.a. c/o Hoffman, Sabban, & Watenmaker, Transfer: By Will. Address: 10880 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 2200, Los Angeles, CA, 90024, United States.
Date of Creation:    2009
Authorship on Application:    Theron Feemster III; Domicile: United States; Citizenship: United States. Authorship: music, lyrics.
Michael Jackson, -2009; Domicile: United States; Citizenship: United States. Authorship: music, lyrics.
Rights and Permissions:    Theron Feemster III, 16830 Ventura Blvd., Ste. 415, Encino, CA, 91436, United States, (818) 398-1036, ron.qsqw@gmail.com
Names:    Feemster, Theron III
Jackson, Michael, -2009
The Michael Jackson Estate
c/o Hoffman, Sabban, & Watenmaker"


http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=64&ti=51,64&Search_Arg=jackson%20michael&Search_Code=NALL&CNT=25&REC=0&RD=0&RC=0&PID=bjanaajNcj3IvH4qKwEgp7MhwO44i&SEQ=20120118174056&SID=1
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: Tink on January 25, 2012, 03:35:21 AM
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REMEMBER--- WATER IS ESSESTIAL TO LIVING LIFE. WITHOUT WE ALL WILL DIE. THE SICK SCUM BAGS RUNNING THIS COUNTRY KNOW THAT IF THEY CONTROL THE WATER SUPPLY THEY CONTROL THE WORLD. THE BUSH'S PURCHASED THE LARGEST AQUAFOR IN AUSTRILIA.... WHY DO YOU THINK OUR LAKES AND STREAMS ARE DRY. THEY'VE ALSO BEEN SUCKED DRY AND SHIPPED IN LARGE BLADDERS TO CHINA AND PUT IN THEIR AQUAFOR
S AND BOTTLED AND SOLD BACK TO THE USA WITH ALL TOXIC WASTES ADDED TO THE BOTTLES. IT'S AMERICA. WHICH HAS BEEN HIJACKED!!!!!!!WAKE UP PEOPLE.

@LoveShyMichael: Do you have actual proof of this, that they're filly up bladders, and taking them to China? This is the very first time I've ever heard of it.

Link, please!
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: SimPattyK on March 03, 2012, 01:34:12 PM
(http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/7712/22361520888061916896319.jpg)


Murray said there were 2 tanks of O2 (oxygene) at neverland when it happened...
There is a bizarre contradictory story about 2 O2 (oxygen) tanks at MJ's house the night of 25th June...
I don't know the exact story but one version is that there was only one tank of O2 but already used,
another version is that Murray or the bodyguard lied because in fact there were 2 tanks of O2 at that moment there...
So there's something with the O2!!


Thanks @Ursula (esprit) for sharing with me this link ♥ on twitter

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlX6SenMPMM&feature=share[/youtube]
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: applehead250609 on March 03, 2012, 04:59:52 PM
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(http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/7712/22361520888061916896319.jpg)


Murray said there were 2 tanks of O2 (oxygene) at neverland when it happened...
There is a bizarre contradictory story about 2 O2 (oxygen) tanks at MJ's house the night of 25th June...
I don't know the exact story but one version is that there was only one tank of O2 but already used,
another version is that Murray or the bodyguard lied because in fact there were 2 tanks of O2 at that moment there...
So there's something with the O2!!


Thanks @Ursula (esprit) for sharing with me this link ♥ on twitter

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlX6SenMPMM&feature=share[/youtube]

Simpa those bottles looks alot like oxygen tanks ......:shock:  :?  !!!!

(http://www.dreamstime.com/oxygen-tanks-scuba-diving-thumb3415365.jpg)

Thank you for bringing this story about Oxygen tanks because I want to show you something  ;)) .Remember that I posted about Monkey Business and 12 Monkeys movie  :?: ????? WEll please watch here this video starting at 2:48 and then starting 3:40 cause you will se some OXYGEN inhalation and some black and white gloves  :shock: geek/ :lol: :lol: !!!!! Who knows maybe you will see some rabbits in the END ,too  ;) !!!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2lcVw2P4tg&feature=related[/youtube]
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: SimPattyK on March 15, 2012, 07:41:03 PM
ohh I had missed your reply @AppleHead, thank you!! very interesting info!!
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: applehead250609 on March 15, 2012, 07:51:23 PM
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ohh I had missed your reply @AppleHead, thank you!! very interestinf info!!

Simpa  :)   bearhug  bearhug bearhug  bearhug !!!!
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: SimPattyK on April 02, 2012, 03:38:12 PM
Posted by Paris on March 28th, 2012

http://copygr.am/ymcmb_breezy/

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/paris002.jpg)
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: Grace on April 06, 2012, 02:34:11 PM
I'd like to throw in one of my favourite books:
Miyamoto Musashi "The Book of Five Rings".

This is about the Book of Water:

Quote
The Book of Water
The water book concerns strategy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy), but it also includes various other factors which perhaps a warrior reading the book should take into consideration, such as spirituality (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirituality), religion, and one's outlook on life. The meaning of water in relation to life is flexibility. Water demonstrates natural flexibility as it changes to conform with the boundaries which contain it, seeking the most efficient and productive path. So also should one possess the ability to change in accordance with one’s own situation to easily shift between disciplines, methods, and options when presented with new information. A person should master many aspects of life allowing them to possess both balance and flexibility.

The spiritual bearing in strategy, which Musashi writes about concerns your temperament and spirituality whilst in the midst of, or in formulation of a battle. Being a buddhist, most of what is written in the section concerning spirituality refers to principles of calmness, tranquility and spiritual balance;

In strategy your spiritual bearing must not be any different from normal. Both in fighting and in everyday life you should be determined though calm.

This balance refers to what could be thought of as yin and yang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yin_and_yang) within yourself. The over-familiarity or over-use of one weapon is discouraged by Musashi, as it would be seen to reveal your spirituality to your enemy. The idea is that a perfectly balanced spirit is also a perfectly balanced physical presence, and neither creates weakness nor reveals it to your enemy.

During battle, the spirituality and balance is something of which Musashi notes that you should take advantage. Since small people know the spirituality of big people, they can thus note differences and weaknesses between each other. This is something which seems easy, but it is said to change when you are on the battlefield, as then you must know to both adjust your spiritual balance according to what is around you, and to perceive the balance of those around you to take advantage accordingly.

Just as your spirit should be balanced, your various techniques be honed to a perfectly balanced demeanour. In terms of stance, much like balance within the trooper, Musashi notes that stance is an important part of strategy, or battle: Adopt a stance with the head erect, neither hanging down, nor looking up, nor twisted. This is part of what Musashi notes as wedging in (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wedging_in&action=edit&redlink=1).

In regards to the gaze of someone, he notes that a person must be able to perceive that which is all around him without moving their eyeballs noticeably, which is said to be a skill which takes an enormous amount of practice to perfect. He notes that this is again one of the most important parts of strategy, as well as being able to see things which are close to you, such as the technique of an enemy. It is also used to perceive things far away, such as arriving troops or enemies, as that is the precursor to battle. You can then change your actions according to what you see.

Attitudes of swordsmanship
  • Upper
  • Middle
  • Lower
  • Right Side
  • Left Side
The five attitudes of swordsmanship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swordsmanship) are referred to as the five classifications of areas for attack on the human body. These are areas which are noted for their advantages when striking at an enemy, and the strategist is said to think of them when in situations where, for any reason, you should not be able to strike them. Then his mind should adjust accordingly.

Your attitude should be large or small according to the situation. Upper, Lower and Middle attitudes are decisive. Left Side and Right Side attitudes are fluid. Left and Right attitudes should be used if there is an obstruction overhead or to one side. The decision to use Left or Right depends on the place.

As each is thought of as an attitude, it could be thought of that Musashi means to practice with each "attitude" so that you do not become over-reliant upon one, something which Musashi repeatedly notes as being worse than bad technique.

"No Attitude" refers to those strategists who do not go with the use of the "Five Attitudes" and prefer to simply go without the attitudes of the long sword to focus entirely on technique, as opposed to focusing on both technique and the five attitudes. This is similar to taking chances as opposed to making chances.
The attitude of "Existing - Non Existing", mixes the Five Attitudes with the Attitude of "No Attitude", meaning that the user of the longsword uses the techniques and principles of both at whichever moment he or she finds most opportune.

"In-One Timing" refers to the technique of biding your time until you can find a suitable gap in the enemies' defense, to which you will deliver one fatal blow to the enemy. Although this is said to be difficult, Musashi notes that masters of this technique are usually masters of the five attitudes because they must be perceptive of weaknesses. It is rumoured that Musashi disgraced a former sword master by using such a technique with a Bokken (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokken), but there are no descriptions mentioning "In one" timing.

"Abdomen Timing of Two" refers to feinting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feint) an attack, then striking an enemy as they are retreating from the attack, hitting them in the abdomen with the correct timing of either two moves or two seconds. Although the technique seems relatively simple, Musashi lists this as one of the hardest techniques to time correctly.

"No Design, No Conception" refers to When word and actions are spontaneously the same. Aside from this philosophical approach to the meaning, the technique is relatively simple to explain: if you are in a deadlock with the enemy, using the force from the cut, you push with your body and use the disciplines outlined in the Void Book to knock the enemy over.

This is the most important method of hitting. It is often used. You must train hard to understand it.

"Flowing Water Cut" technique refers to if you come into a fight with an enemy of a similar level to you in swordsmanship. When attacking fast, Musashi notes that you will always be at stalemate, so like Stagnant water, you must cut as slowly as possible with your long sword. At the beginning of this technique you and your opponent will be searching for an opening within each other's defense. When your opponent either tries to push off your sword, or to hasten back as to disengage it, you must first expand your whole body and your mind. By moving your body first and then that of your sword, you will be able to strike powerfully and broadly with a movement that seems to reflect the natural flow of water. Ease and confidence will be attained when this technique is continuously practiced upon.

"Continuous Cut" refers to when you are again faced with stalemate within a duel, where your swords are clasped together. In one motion, when your sword springs away from theirs, Musashi says to use a continuous motion to slash their head, body, and legs.

"Fire and Stone's Cut" refers to when your swords clash together. Without raising your sword, you cut as strongly as possible. This means cutting quickly with hands, body, and legs.

"Red Leafs Cut" refers to knocking down the enemy's long sword in the spirit of the "No Design, No Conception" cut.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Five_Rings#The_Book_of_Water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Five_Rings#The_Book_of_Water)

The book and various summaries are available online and are very useful as to awareness (also in context of the masterpiece of hoax).
http://www.kisurvivalsystems.com/PDFs/Musashi%201.2.pdf (http://www.kisurvivalsystems.com/PDFs/Musashi%201.2.pdf)
http://generation.feedbooks.com/book/3953.pdf (http://generation.feedbooks.com/book/3953.pdf)
http://samuraiconsulting.ca/5rings/water/ (http://samuraiconsulting.ca/5rings/water/)


This was a great thread about water and the hoax:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,17851.msg304848.html#msg304848 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,17851.msg304848.html#msg304848)
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on April 06, 2012, 04:21:52 PM
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Posted by Paris on March 28th, 2012

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lol... water from THE SOURCE
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: mindseye on April 06, 2012, 05:18:43 PM
Message from the source?  :icon_e_wink: 

I'm not sure if this has been brought up before 'What The Bleep ! Down The Rabbit Hole"
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brMjTk0MqWY[/youtube]

The link to the study.
http://www.merrynjose.com/artman/publish/article_321.shtml

Found: "Words like 'love' and 'gratitude' had a positive, cleansing effect on water and caused it to form pure, tight crystalline clusters."

"Dr. Emoto compiled his findings in two-volumes entitled "Messages From Water." Therein he explains how the effect of energy, both positive and negative, can now be clearly seen not only in water itself, but in all living things. As our bodies are mostly water, we are inexorably bound to the element and the molecular changes that occur in response to words, prayer, pollution, deeds, gratitude, and love. Positive energy will effect positive changes within our bodies and negative energy will effect negative changes."
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on April 06, 2012, 06:18:46 PM
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check this out: on the site of the "Who Dat" water : http://www.drinkdat.net/  there's the song "when the Saints go marchin' in" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_the_Saints_Go_Marching_In and "Who Dat" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Dat%3F  
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The song is apocalyptic, taking much of its imagery from the Book of Revelation, but excluding its more horrific depictions of the Last Judgment. The verses about the Sun and Moon refer to Solar and Lunar eclipses; the trumpet (of the Archangel Gabriel) is the way in which the Last Judgment is announced. As the hymn expresses the wish to go to Heaven, picturing the saints going in (through the Pearly Gates), it is entirely appropriate for funerals.

 :icon_eek: weird to use this song to promote water..

@AustralianbeLIEver: water from THE SOURCE is indeed pretty interesting  :icon_e_wink:

About the O2 Alive drinks linked to the O2 oxygen tanks (Sim and Applehead): there are inconsistencies concerning the oxygen tank(s) present in MJ's bedroom. There were 1 or 2? Was the oxygen tank empty? Did someone lie? Could someone lied about "O2" also mean someone lied about the O2 concerts? Could this be a message..? :icon_e_confused:
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: Dontwalkaway on April 06, 2012, 06:49:12 PM
Thoughts effect water.  Imagine how much thoughts effect us and everything around us.  It was shown that thoughts,sounds,words also effect plants.  Everything is connected by vibration/frequency.

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Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: marumjj on April 06, 2012, 10:45:47 PM
Water! Water! reminds me of the fountain of youth. We all know that MJ said he wanted to live forever.
The fountain of youth, symbol of immortality, is a legendary source who supposedly cured and returns youth to whoever drinks of its waters or bathe in them.
The stories of healing waters date to at least the time of the novels of Alexander and were popular until the European Age of Discovery. A later legend derives from the history of the "water of life" in the Oriental versions of the novels of Alexander, where Alexander and his servant cross the Land of Darkness to find the source of healing. The servant in this story comes in turn from the legends of the Middle East Al-Khidr, a saga which also appears in the Koran. The Arabic and aljamiada of Alexander novels were very popular in Spain during and after the Muslim era and have been known to the explorers who traveled to America. He also mentioned the fountain of youth in the Book of the Wonders of the World of John of Mandeville and works about Prester John.
There are also countless indirect sources of history. Immortality as a gift appears frequently in the legends, and stories of objects like the philosopher's stone, the universal panacea and elixir of life are common throughout Eurasia and elsewhere. An additional clue may have been taken from the story of the Pool of Bethesda in John's Gospel, where Jesus heals a man at the pool in Jerusalem.
The Arawaks and the island of Bimini

The stories of Native Americans on the healing power were related to the mythical island of Bimini, a land of wealth and prosperity located somewhere in the north, possibly in the location of the Bahamas. According to legend, the Spanish learned of Bimini through the Arawaks of the Spanish, Cuba and Puerto Rico. Sequene, an Arawak chief from Cuba, had purportedly been unable to resist the temptation to Bimini and its restorative power. He gathered a group of adventurers and sailed north, never to return. His former subjects more optimistic saying that Sequene and his followers had found the fountain of youth and lived in luxury in Bimini.
Bimini and its curative waters were widespread subjects in the Caribbean. The Italian-born chronicler Peter Martyr d'Anghiera spoke of them in a letter he wrote to Pope in 1513, but did not believe in these stories and was dismayed that so many others do so.
This source, according to tradition is the source of immortality and its own meaning (water surge) symbolizes the life force of man and all beings. -
Returning to the island of Bimini, one knows that one of the biggest investors is Donald Trump, a friend of MJ. Would not it be crazy to think that in TII Mj says Water Water .. perhaps tell us what was the fate of the famous flight of the 25-6 LA airport ...

                               :bearhug:
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on April 07, 2012, 01:28:22 AM
Water water Also reminds me of Is.55:1 hey there, all YOU thirsty ones! Come to the water.

I believe the TII reference to water is of a spiritual context

Isaiah is telling about servants. He is going to great lengths to explain how Israel has been God’s servant. He takes it a step further and shows how a new Servant will come who will go further in serving God than Israel has been able to do. He also talks about how an open invitation is extended to all to be the servant of God.
This is the warmth of the invitation.
•   Who can drink God’s water?
•   Anyone who is thirsty
•   Who can be fed on God’s incredible feast
•   Anyone who is hungry, even the poor
Thirst is one of the driving forces of our existence. We tend to down play it, but a person can only live for three days without water.
Dr. William Stidger tells of a conversation with a Filipino man. He asked him, "What is the most useful thing that the Americans have contributed to the Philippines?"
The answer was, "The most wonderful thing that the Americans brought to us in the American occupation of our islands was the artesian well. That has saved our babies from death!"
"Thank God for water!" he said again. " I believe that I have uttered that prayer from the depths of my heart more times than I have uttered any other prayer in my life. You would know what it meant to us if you had been here from the beginning, as some of us have."
"I used to see mothers lean over with their brown babies on their hips, brush away the green scum from stagnant pools along the roads, and let their children drink from those pools of disease and death!"
"Didn’t they know better?" He said.
"They had no better. It wasn’t a matter of knowing any better. See how they use these artesian wells, now that they have them."
Dr. Stidger continues: "He didn’t need to call that to my attention. It was wonderfully apparent. I stood one entire morning photographing people as they came to these wells up in Molodolos. It was one of the most thrilling mornings I ever put in. I saw the miracle of water in action." (2500 Best Modern Illustrations)
What could be a more welcome invitation? What could be kinder than to offer water to a thirsty child or free food to a poor woman? And not just food, fine food, food that nourishes and satisfies.

Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on April 07, 2012, 01:31:49 AM
Just as Water is vital to life. So is spirituality. When one drinks water there is refreshment to the soul. Just as the water of God
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: MJonmind on April 07, 2012, 03:45:45 AM
I was watching several videos posted in this thread, and saving several to watch on my ipod at work!  Thank you all!

Aussie, when I read your Scriptural thoughts about water, it reminded me of another story/prophecy in Ezekiel. In the millennial reign of Christ, there will flow from the Temple in Jerusalem, a tiny stream of fresh water (special water), that will slowly grow to a rushing river, that will flow into the Dead Sea and make it fresh, where all kinds of fish will live.   http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/proph/river.htm discusses this, and here is Ezekiel 47 
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ezekiel%2047&version=KJV . It seems to be the same river as in Revelation 22 which has trees along both sides of the river that bring healing to the nations. Aussie, we discussed this way back about tree or trees  :icon_lol: remember, and you pointed out Ezekiel?

Ezekiel 47:12
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12And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.
Revelation 22:1,2
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1And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
 2In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

This is a very interesting study on the original Solomon's temple not being where the Dome of the Rock is today, but where the Pool of Siloam is. There is a natural strong spring of water there. There are strong reasonings for this belief.  http://www.askelm.com/temple/t050115.htm  and  http://www.askelm.com/temple/t001211.htm
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The Gihon Spring is the only spring within the city limits of Jerusalem. We have the eyewitness account of a person from Egypt named Aristeas who viewed the Temple in about 285 B.C.E. He stated quite categorically that the Temple was located over an inexhaustible spring that welled up within the interior part of the Temple.  4 About 400 years later the Roman historian Tacitus gave another reference that the Temple at Jerusalem had within its precincts a natural spring of water that issued from its interior.  5 These two references are describing the Gihon Spring (the sole spring of water in Jerusalem). It was because of the strategic location of this single spring that the original Canaanite cities of "Migdol Edar" and "Jebus" were built over and around that water source before the time of King David. That sole water source was the only reason for the existence of a city being built at that spot.

8 The area of the Dome of the Rock, however, is 1000 feet north of the original City of David and is much too far away for anyone to look down into the courts of the Temple as Aristeas dogmatically stated one could. Also, there has never been a natural water spring within the Haram esh-Sharif. That fact alone disqualifies the area around the Dome of the Rock from being the site of the former Temples.
There is also some discussion there about the Ark of the Covenant and this spring.

Marumjj, on the Fountain of Youth, when this forum was discussing the island where it is said there was the 'fountain of youth', there was a mountain in the middle of it (I think) called Mt. Michael. Does anyone remember?
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: Okay Annie on April 07, 2012, 09:58:14 PM
Do you think there could be some significance to Cancer as in the as in Cancer the Crab, the astrological sign. I was browsing through PattySims's long numerology thread where she list several dates involving June 25/26th being dates with significance to MJ/Elvis. The thing that sticks out to me about those dates besides the numerology is that these dates happen to corrospond to the Astrological  Sign of Cancer on those dates, with the sun being in Cancer on those date. top keep this post relivant to the topic Cancer happens to be a water sign, the cardinal water sign in Western Tropical Astrology.
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: SimPattyK on April 08, 2012, 03:07:04 AM
WoW! great observance Okay Annie! :th_bravo: I never thought of this even if knew that Cancer is a water zodiac-sign!
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: Okay Annie on April 10, 2012, 07:53:13 PM
Of course it could have some signifcance on it's own and not nessessarly have to do with water, although it does have some signifcane to water, or perhaps it's just a coincidence that those dates fall on those days ;) :icon_e_wink:
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: MJonmind on April 11, 2012, 02:13:36 AM
Okay Annie
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Do you think there could be some significance to Cancer as in the as in Cancer the Crab, the astrological sign.

Remember the Five-alive dodo on facebook we followed for a while. One popular pic was this crab, there were many shots of it like it was some major character.

(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb371/lifeisamovie1/269791_1854299398304_1265393793_31647038_4067330_n1.jpg)
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: heartwarrior on April 11, 2012, 03:35:46 AM
Significance of WATER......exodus......coexist......lately my attention highlighted the middleeast conflict. To exist and make grow oranges people need WATER. Coexisting and sharing the resources are the key of life.
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: finfin on April 11, 2012, 05:40:50 AM
                             



                                               Thrillicious: 2008 SoBe Life Water Super Bowl Ad

                                          [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anLqu77uTH0 [/youtube]
                         
                                SOBE LIFE WATER AND MICHAEL JACKSON: WHAT'S THE CONNECTION?

                                   SoBe Life Water and Michael Jackson: What's the Connection? - Marketing Articles - MUCH ADO ABOUT MARKETING (http://camouflagepink.squarespace.com/journal/2008/10/29/sobe-life-water-and-michael-jackson-whats-the-connection.html)
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: Tink on April 18, 2012, 03:02:44 PM
What about Baptism in the Holy Spirit?

1 Cor. 12:13 says, "For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit."

Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: SimPattyK on May 14, 2012, 04:11:54 PM
[....] it does seem that light, energy and water are the foundational stones to biological existence.
 
More than this, light, energy, water and space are caught up in our worlds and experiences of perception. Most do not know that color (specific light frequencies) shape our perceptual abilities just as they have their affect on water as the light passes through.

Nassim says that inside of us, inside of all pieces of matter, is a black hole that leads both into and out of space - a pure space with endless potential energy. And he tells us that through our connection to this zero point of pure space we are connected with all pure spaces that are everywhere in existence. When we probe the very reaches of the universe we begin to understand that there is only one space and everything rests in its belly.
 
Things can exist inside the vast space of the universe but on a fundamental level these things do not have the power to divide space from itself. Nothing in the created universe has this power except the egocentric mind that mistakenly thinks its king of reality.
 That is exactly what the ego is - the illusion of separation, the perception of separation - a bubble self that defines us as separate from the zero point of pure space or what I call pure consciousness.
 
Pure Water - Space - Pure Consciousness

To understand something as important and beautiful as pure water we need to understand consciousness because pure consciousness and pure water have many things in common.
Though absolute pure water does not exist outside of a laboratory except as a concept, pure consciousness is not a concept, but it is rarely experienced or perceived in its pure form.

Pure consciousness, what is that? It is much easier to say what it isn’t than what it is.

If we sit down in meditation and relax until we do not feel our bodies, then slow our minds down till there are no more thoughts to think, and calm our hearts until there is no more emotion, no feeling, no hearing, and no images in our imagination, what do we have left?
Nothing but our very own pure consciousness; pure awareness is what is left and this is the foundation of everything that we are.
[...]---- > Mind, Meditation and Water (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_agua15.htm)


WATER HAS MEMORY

In June 1988, the French scientist Jacques Benveniste, M.D. published an astonishing research paper in Nature, which indicated that water has memory. The paper immediately caused a great disturbance in the scientific community, where opposition to his findings was substantial.
[...]
This conclusion seemed to violate common sense. Many people disputed Benveniste’s findings. Consequently, he lost his laboratory, funding, job and even his credibility as a scientist. Fortunately, a progressive private research company hired him to continue his work.
There had not been any evident resolution for the “Benveniste incident” until 1999, when 4 laboratories in different European countries conducted independent experiments. Their findings demonstrated that extremely diluted solutions still preserved the effect of the original solutions that degranulated basophils. People started to think that Benveniste had been right.

Benveniste’s experiment required that at each dilution, the solution had to be shaken vigorously. His experiment demonstrated that a substance that is dissolved in water passes on its own characteristics to the water. Even if there is no more of the original substance, its characteristics still remain. Benveniste’s findings are not isolated.

Dr. Masaru Emoto, a Japanese researcher whose experiments have been described in previous weeks in these pages, claimed in the report on his water crystal experiment,
    “All the characteristics of substances will affect the characteristic of the water.”

Benveniste’s experiment studied the influence of substances diluted and agitated in water, whereas Emoto’s water crystal experiment studied the effects of thoughts and music on water. Emoto’s findings are even more astounding because they seem to indicate that water can recognize the content of thoughts and words and distinguish good ones from evil.

One would be hard put to cite existing scientific theory to explain these findings and so they certainly provide fertile ground for further investigation. [...]"
---- > Water Has Memory (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/salud/esp_salud15.htm)

---- > 'Water Memory' Theory Revival Boosts Homeopathy (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/salud/esp_salud18.htm)
 
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: LoveShyMichael on May 14, 2012, 06:33:14 PM
Water is the ONLY things NO ONE can live without. Period!

The globalist have been drugging our water supply with flouride, (which has been proven time & time again to cause cancer, neuro damage, & hosts of other medical inflictions.
The Bush Family purchased the biggest auquafor in Austrialia. They are not just into oil, because what good is oil, you can't drink it, unless you want, death.
Water is what everything living breathing plant, humans, etc need to survive. If we don't have it, we wil die. What better place to dump all toxic wastes, sterilze humans, & literally "silent" kill us?

Really, if we think about it, who ever controls the water....CONTROLS THE WORLD!
Oil, gold, food, silver, material stuff will not keep up alive.

If our water supply is contaminated, ( Ok, more than it is now) what will you do? We as humans cannot survive without it. Plants, argriculture, farmers, all need water.

Whomever controls the water, CONTROLS THE WORLD!
All local water companies are privatized. Your local city DOES NOT OWN YOUR WATER. It's owned by HUGE corporations that know its LIQUID GOLD! Why do you think your water bill raises more rapidly than any other? Because they know they can do it. If they want, they can just refuse to sell to your city. IT'S PRIVATIZED!

The large industrial/chemical companies sell their toxic wastes, because otherwise they would have to pay huge $$$$ to dispose of it. So they sell it to your local city water department. They dump it in the water supply & call it "flouride", among other toxic sediments they leave it on purpose.

Bottled water is even worse, they is not regulating of bottled water. Let me tell you what's happening to my area. I live in Wisconsin, which is considered Great Lakes region.

Big corporations, like Nestle, & other corrupt corporations, are draining the Great Lakes, & trying up small lakes, & putting in the water in huge bladders & shipping it out to China, to put in their auquafors. So when the Chinese need water, they have STOLEN from us, & then they run it thru a filter, add what ever toxic shit they want, put it in bottle, & sell it back to us at a profit

Has anyone ever seen the Disney Movie, Rango?

If not, please watch it, it is EXACTLY what is happening. TV shows, movies, ALL have "in your face, what you going to do about it", plot.

Drugging the water supply, is the best geniuts idea to dumb down population, because WE CANNOT ABSOLUTELY LIVE WITHOUT IT.

What happens when humans & farmers, animals, don't have water, literally can make a person biserk.
What would you do as a person/human if you we're faced with NO WATER?
What would you to get water?
What would you barter with to get water??
Would you drink whatever the government offers, because your so thirsty? You bet you would.

I recently bought a Berkey gravity fed water purifer, along with flouride filters to remove the shit they say is good for your teeth. yea right.

The Berkey water purfifer will also filter the dyes that are in water.

Bottled water IS NOT REGULATED AT ALL. So bottled water can have move toxic stuff than your local city water.
For those who have a well, please still filter your water.
The Pur filters that are style that are put in small containers that you put in refrigerator, DO NOT filter out flouride, or even come close to filtering out all prescription drugs & whatever they are dumping in water.

Sodium Flouride is the active ingredient in Prozac, that is what is dumped in our water, antidepressents.

We all been told that Africa is literally dehydrated, well one thing about this corrupt scum government (well foreign banks have hijacked america) we go after to "help" third world countries, that we want their natural resources or land. See article below, that the corruptness is to SUPPRESS natural resources for their own selfish ways. NWO is designed to KILL, people not too keep them alive. & WATER IS THE SILENT KILLER they are using to drug us, & dumb people down, because they know we can't live without it. And because it LOOKS CLEAR, people just assume it's pure. What a genius deceptive lie we've been told for so long. Please invest in a great purifer to keep your water pure as possible. I paid $261, that was including the flouride filters too. Bottled water CANNOT BE TRUSTED!

Scientists say the notoriously dry continent of Africa is sitting on a vast reservoir of groundwater.

They argue that the total volume of water in aquifers underground is 100 times the amount found on the surface.

The team have produced the most detailed map yet of the scale and potential of this hidden resource.

Writing in the journal Environmental Research Letters, they stress that large scale drilling might not be the best way of increasing water supplies.

Across Africa more than 300 million people are said not to have access to safe drinking water.

Demand for water is set to grow markedly in coming decades due to population growth and the need for irrigation to grow crops.

"Where there's greatest ground water storage is in northern Africa, in the large sedimentary basins, in Libya, Algeria.

"The amount of storage in those basins is equivalent to 75m thickness of water across that area - it's a huge amount."

 Hundreds of different pharmaceuticals and modern chemical compounds are ALREADY inadvertently polluting our drinking water. Runoff and toilet-to-tap systems allow excreted and disposed pharmaceuticals and pills of all sorts to enter right back into our water supply.

Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: ~Souza~ on June 04, 2012, 05:26:29 AM
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if you have a fountain.. the noise from the water splashing you can sing quietly by it and nobody can hear you =O

Big fountain! Something like this?

(http://acidcow.com/pics/20100113/las_vegas_fountains_06.jpg)
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on June 04, 2012, 05:28:00 AM
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if you have a fountain.. the noise from the water splashing you can sing quietly by it and nobody can hear you =O

Big fountain! Something like this?

(http://acidcow.com/pics/20100113/las_vegas_fountains_06.jpg)

with a fountain that size (aka bellagio) im guessing you wouldnt have to sing too quietly...

bellow it out!
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: BeTheChange on June 04, 2012, 06:06:20 AM
You should never let water drown out your voice.

Unless you sound horrible, in which case drown away  :icon_lol:

Re: The Bellagio fountains...I've been lucky enough to have seen them twice and was completely enthralled.  It's breathtaking to stand there and take it all in...you're left speechless.  Definitely something worth experiencing, as is the Bellagio hotel....vids/pics don't do it justice.

With L.O.V.E. always.
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: SimPattyK on July 07, 2021, 06:22:36 PM
"Watch the Water" ~ Q

Q mentioned this many times in the drops... => https://qalerts.app/?s=Watch+the+water

Interesting how this thread launched 10 years ago, ties in so perfectly with current events.... all related to WATER and Q...

- the giant container ship that blocked Egypt’s Suez Canal for almost a week causing a huge build-up of vessels around the waterway  (behind this => the Clinton Foundation => human trafficking via ship containers)

- 2020 election -  Trump put secret watermarks on ballots

- Trump made it a show to drink FIJI water during press conferences, he did it  an ostentation  SLOW manner, it annoyed the Media  :Big-Grin:
- who else drank FIJI water during ThIs It 2009 rehearsals? => MJ => VIDEO - https://youtu.be/JfOALfBmMZU

And the list of WATER references can continue with all the events that occurred since Q started posting in 2017
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: SimPattyK on July 19, 2021, 07:23:40 AM
Hello :)
Regarding the question that was asked about FIJI water at minute 00:57 on Souza's live chat - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exKap0UgZuY

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- Trump made it a show to drink FIJI water during press conferences, he did it  an ostentation  SLOW manner, it annoyed the Media  :Big-Grin:

- who else drank FIJI water during ThIs It 2009 rehearsals? => MJ => VIDEO - https://youtu.be/JfOALfBmMZU
Check the video quoted here above starting with minute 25:00

OR watch the original video at minute 05:25 - https://www.bitchute.com/video/idOJzZF0Vp3p/ (The Fall of the Cabal - Part 9: THE DAWN OF A NEW WORLD)

Long story short: the importance of the signals around the FIJI water is that this water was produced on  an ISLAND where they found sex traffickers with females and minor children! Those sex traffickers (Keith Reiner & co) were tried and convicted during the 4 years when Trump was President.

FIJI water is just a generic name, because sex trafficking is mainly through/by/via WATER:
- islands where they actually abuse children (see also Epstein's island)
- WATER canals through which they transport the sex trafficking victims => see Clinton's shipping containers (Evergreen)
- UNDER water bases where only SUBMARINES can get! (see Ghislaine Maxwell who could pilot both helicopters and SUBMARINES and she was the President of that NGO related to WATER Ecosystem....)

Why do the sex traffickers use WATER for their illegal activities??
Because it's so difficult to track submarines, ships and what's inside of them!!
Isolated islands, Underwater bases, huge shipping containers...., not anyone has access to see what's going on there, very easy to hide!!

That's why Q kept insisting on "Watch the Water"
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 21, 2021, 05:07:17 AM
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Hello :)
Regarding the question that was asked about FIJI water at minute 00:57 on Souza's live chat - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exKap0UgZuY

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- Trump made it a show to drink FIJI water during press conferences, he did it  an ostentation  SLOW manner, it annoyed the Media  :Big-Grin:

- who else drank FIJI water during ThIs It 2009 rehearsals? => MJ => VIDEO - https://youtu.be/JfOALfBmMZU
Check the video quoted here above starting with minute 00:25

OR watch the original video at minute 05:25 - https://www.bitchute.com/video/idOJzZF0Vp3p/ (The Fall of the Cabal - Part 9: THE DAWN OF A NEW WORLD)

Long story short: the importance of the signals around the FIJI water is that this water was produced on  an ISLAND where they found sex traffickers with females and minor children! Those sex traffickers (Keith Reiner & co) were tried and convicted during the 4 years when Trump was President.

FIJI water is just a generic name, because sex trafficking is mainly through/by/via WATER:
- islands where they actually abuse children (see also Epstein's island)
- WATER canals through which they transport the sex trafficking victims => see Clinton's shipping containers (Evergreen)
- UNDER water bases where only SUBMARINES can get! (see Ghislaine Maxwell who could pilot both helicopters and SUBMARINES and she was the President of that NGO related to WATER Ecosystem....)

Why do the sex traffickers use WATER for their illegal activities??
Because it's so difficult to track submarines, ships and what's inside of them!!
Isolated islands, Underwater bases, huge shipping containers...., not anyone has access to see what's going on there, very easy to hide!!

That's why Q kept insisting on "Watch the Water"

That's an interesting post. Maybe also why they use water might be marine law? I don't know much about it and how that would be beneficial to sex traffickers, but might be worth looking into?
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: SimPattyK on July 21, 2021, 03:01:36 PM
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That's an interesting post. Maybe also why they use water might be marine law? I don't know much about it and how that would be beneficial to sex traffickers, but might be worth looking into?
oh yes, indeed the Maritime law is another "fish food" lol compared to the law applied on Land / Common Law

Yes, this could be very well another reason why they use Water for human trafficking!
They are modern-day PIRATES (see the left eye covered, see the "322 Skull & Bones" logo)... smugglers, thieves, rapists, pedos... that's what they did centuries ago, that's what they're still  doing now too! hidden by the special "Law of water"

The following 2 videos are very interesting regarding this very subject!
And how they use LAW to hide their illegal activities and turn us into their slaves!

1.  War Castles (full version) - the Maritime Law is applied to us since our  very BIRTH! (they treat the female womb as the SEA ("water breaks") and the baby as the SHIP which docks on Land when it's being born! it's crazy but that's what "they" do !! we're nothing but shipping products to them => commercial objects!)

video link ==>> https://vimeo.com/508062193

Video description:
Quote
"Sergeant Robert Leroy Horton (US ARMY CIVIL AFFAIRS & PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATIONS COMMAND) Trains US ARMY SPECIAL FORCES GREEN BERETS.
Here he explains the inter-workings of our slavery to the Cabal.
He also touches upon the concepts of QUANTUM-LANGUAGE-PARSE-SYNTAX-GRAMMAR which was created by David-Wynn Miller and Russell-Jay Gould.
Once you understand how the USA Corporation ties to the banking system then Trump's plans for the Republic of the USA will become clear.
What country holds most of our debt? CHINA! Once the USA Corporation is desolved it will effect CHINA's economy this is why they wanted Biden in the White House. China owns Biden, the voter fraud & stolen votes cannot stand.
Trump has helped to bankrupt the USA Corporation which is located in Washington, D.C. that is a foreign nation with in our boarders. Like the Vatican in Italy & the Corporation of London in England. The U.S. Military currently has Washington, D.C surrounded like a hostile foreign nation. Once this plays out NESARA will be implemented.
The Act of 1871 created the USA Corporation, Trump is trying to bring back the Republic of the USA and the stage is set. How it plays out is not clear to us therefore not clear to the Deep State. I know in my heart of hearts that with everyone praying and positive thoughts Trump will prevail."

2. "WHAT IS YOUR STRAWMAN? - THE SLAVERY OF OUR TIME -  BY BIBI BACCHUS"
(the birth-certificate scam!)
video link ==>> https://youtu.be/RHa0jbLufrI

^^ This video is amazing! left me jaw dropped
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 23, 2021, 04:08:15 AM
I didn't really check if this was mentioned in this thread, but I saw that 'Water' is an unreleased song by MJ from 2009. According to Wikipedia:


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"Water"
Michael Jackson
Michael Prince
Theron Feemster


Apparently recorded in early 2009 at the Carolwood house.

  • The production is complex, with water droplets and a "Stranger in Moscow (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_in_Moscow)" aesthetic.
  • Only the chorus was recorded (which MJ sang a snippet of in "This Is It"), but people have described it as "amazing" and "magical".
  • The song has nothing to do with "H2O" and "Water" from the Cascio tracks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascio_tracks).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unreleased_songs_recorded_by_Michael_Jackson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unreleased_songs_recorded_by_Michael_Jackson)


I wish we had the lyrics. Now with Prince releasing 'Hot Summer', it would be nice if Michael would leak this 'Water' song.
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 23, 2021, 04:38:32 AM
Ok, so we DO have the lyrics of Water, and I think they're very interesting. How did I not see these earlier?



Feeling like this is the end of the world
Missing on the chance to fall in love (I do got it)
Feeling like your love is dangerous, but I love you, girl
Feeling like I'm never good enough
Let the heaven open, it's raining in heaven
Feels like warm July
We'll be something new, I'm here for you
And there's no need to cry
Heaven's like water, water
Drowning my soul, it feels like
Heaven's like water, water
People leave me alone
Heaven's like water, water
What am I to do?
Feeling like this is the start of something new
Feeling like this is the world of me and you
Cause you ain't judging me, You just touching me
You ain't bugging me, I'm waiting on you
I'm hoping it's true, baby, it's you
When the storm is ranging
We can walk the moon
Girl, I love you, you're my fortune
You keep me alive
Heaven's like water, water
Drowning my soul, it feels like
Heaven's like water, water
People leave me alone
Heaven's like water, water
What am I to do?
I lie awake, I count the days
When I'm not there with you, I cry my eyes away
I'd rather stay, I rather play again
When I'm not there with you forever, always
(Water, water)
Don't you do this to me
Tell the angels no
I don't wanna leave my baby alone
Won't you leave us alone
Tell the angels no
I don't wanna leave my baby alone
It feels like, leave us alone
(Water, water)
Leave us alone, it feels like
(Water, water)
How does it feel
How does it feel
How does it feel
How does it feel
(Water, water, water)
(It's like water, water)
All over me, it's all over me
(It's like water, water, like water)
All over me, it's all over me, it's all
All over me (Water)
It's all over me
(Water, it's like water, water)
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: SimPattyK on July 23, 2021, 07:06:26 PM
If I remember well, the chorus of the song leaked back in 2012-2013.
And around 2018-2019 the entire song leaked online.

This is a version posted in 2020.... not sure how much of the vocals is Michael and how much is sung by Jason Malachi.
That's why the song has been rather ignored by the fans community, it was not shared or talked about, probably most ppl think it's a voice impersonator and not Michael

But at least we have an idea of what the song was meant to sound like, and it matches the lyrics posted by you, Souza

Michael Jackson - Water (Bible Album)

video ==>> https://youtu.be/H11f3Xo49bc

Michael Jackson Singing "Water" (Cascio Track) during a This Is It Rehearsal

https://youtu.be/nkS0hcfRB1I
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: SimPattyK on July 23, 2021, 08:01:55 PM
I find the lyrics of Michael's song "Water" to be very interesting as they resemble to both Q and Trump's speeches/quotes:

"Watch the Water!" ~ Q

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Feeling like this is the end of the world
. . . .
Let the heaven open, it's raining in heaven
Feels like warm July
. . . .
Heaven's like water, water
. . . .
Feeling like this is the start of something new
. . . .
When the storm is ranging
We can walk the moon
Girl, I love you, you're my fortune
You keep me alive
. . . .
What am I to do?
I lie awake, I count the days
. . . .

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When the storm is ranging
. . . .
‘Calm Before The Storm’: Donald Trump Makes Cryptic Remark At Military Dinner
https://youtu.be/VrF7alkwdHw

President Trump : Do you know what this represents?
Reporter: Tell us, Sir
President Trump :  Maybe it's The Calm Before the Storm
Reporter: What Storm, Mr. President?
President Trump : You'll find out!

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Feeling like this is the end of the world
. . . .
Feeling like this is the start of something new
. . . .

Donald Trump's farewell: Our movement is 'only just beginning'
https://youtu.be/ak9EjUVCwdE

Also President Trump, after he was found Not Guilty at the 2nd impeachment trial:
"This is not the end, it's only the beginning."

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Feels like warm July
. . . .
You keep me alive
. . . .
Warm July? lol As in.... "See you in July" - MJ at the O2 Announcement
warm July.... Alive ....  8)


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. . . .
What am I to do?
I lie awake, I count the days
. . . .
What are we to do? we , the fans/hoaxers?
Lie awake.... WAKE up!... and count the days ==>> pay attention to the Numerology of the dates! => CLUES

The message is pretty clear....
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 24, 2021, 03:56:09 AM
I can't believe I never heard that song or read those lyrics. I like the song, I DON'T like the vocals, never liked that Malachi guy's vocals, doesn't sound anything like MJ and every time I hear that vibrato I wanna hit the guy with a vibrator.


Yes the lyrics stood out to me, very interesting indeed.
Title: Re: We need to investigate the significance of Water.
Post by: SimPattyK on July 24, 2021, 03:23:07 PM
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. . . .  and every time I hear that vibrato I wanna hit the guy with a vibrator. 
LMAO :))))


This post below is the only one that was made back then and actually touched the true meaning behind "Water" clues
The rest of us who commented back then were rather far from the main reason why Water is such a big issue now...
10 years later we can have a different perspective on things
But this user was right on point back then!

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There is another aspect of Water in this whole awakening process.
Considering Michaels' casual singing in TII of the word 'Water' while walking away from the camera, turning his back against the viewer, we also have to think of our industrialized world in terms of legal aspects. What is legal? What is LAWful? Legal or illegal is something that can be changed at the whimp of someones mood. Law cannot be changed.
So, Legal are all statues and codes, GIVEN THE FORCE OF LAW. Law itself can never be changed. It is uninterpretable and is simple to understand. Now WATER stands for our legal system.
The Law of Water (Admirality Law/Maritime Law)
has taken over our courts of law on land without us knowing. Now, there might be some lawyers here disagreeing with me, as they have been taught otherwise. Our courts de jure have been changed into courts de facto. Which means administrative procedure has taken over. Is there just a hearing, then it is a court de facto - not a court de jure. An established court by procedure.
The law of the land has been changed into the law of water. Which is all commercial. We are commercial entitiy. We take a plane, we are commercial good transported between two air'ports' with 'commerical' airplanes. As long as everything is happening in a commercial field we have to obey the rules. Water rules.

But THIS particular rabbit hole goes much deeper. See f.e. Dean Clifford on YouTube and watch all there is to watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shs4mIcEqp8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shs4mIcEqp8)

There is still much to learn about the (legal) world we live in.
MUCH as I am also just 4 years old in this matter.  :mrgreen:
But the deception is even bigger than we can imagine. The world is NOT what it seems.
Dean f.e. explains it. You will fall from your chair. 'WATER' we need to put down our fears of the legal world, walk away and take back our full responsibility. For now we have given our consent to be robbed by governments. Lose our fears and stop giving our consent and TPTB will fall apart.

Happy New Year to all of you from me for now,  michael-jackson/
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