Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
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DR. CONRAD MURRAY VERDICT
GUILTY
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Dr. Conrad Murray has been found GUILTY of involuntary manslaughter in the death of Michael Jackson.
Jurors came back with the verdict moments ago after a grueling 6-week trial, finding prosecutors proved beyond a reasonable doubt ... Dr. Murray is responsible for MJ's death.
Murray faces up to 4 years behind bars, but the reality is ... he will not go to state prison because of a new law, and will likely serve his time in L.A. County Jail.
Story Developing ...
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I knew this was going to happen...no reaction from Murray as well.
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Guilty.. Michael would not let an innocent go to prison because of him. This is something i will never believe.
It was all a delusional imagination of mine. I don't care how this goes out, I don't care if for opening my mouth to say my opinion people will jump in my head again, I need to take it out of my soul now.
I am exhausted, sad, consumed. I can't believe that what I feared for became reality. How can this be just an illusion? It's not. No one can joke with the justice of a country. No one. That's why I never enjoyed this, for me it was never about entertainment and only I know how much it hurts me. I care for him as I care for my brother and for me it was no game. I was a stupid vulnerable. I believed in "clues" and "informers" and everything.
Yes, it is a burst for the moment, a consequence of these 2 years of sleepless nights and daily struggle of "what ifs" and "maybe he's alive". I cannot understand, I simply fail to understand why this all began, what was the gain of those who fed it?
What I feel now ... I don't know how to say it. I simply look at all this and I have no words anymore.
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sigh........ :?: :| Once again...highly confused. Especially @ the recent tweets I've been viewing.
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Just sharing my thoughts!
http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/2011/11/07/conrad-murray-guilty-my-thoughts/
My reaction to the verdict of Conrad Murray: Guilty!
I knew this could happen, I suspected it would happen, and this does not change anything for me in my belief that MJ is alive.
Let me back up on my thoughts on this.
In 1993 and 2005, Michael Jackson was brought forth into the judicial system on molestation charges. I’m sure it boggled not only MJ’s mind, and his family’s mind, but also MJ’s friends and fans’ minds that Michael Jackson, an innocent man, could find himself in the position to even be brought to trial.
Really, think about this. Think if it was you. Someone accuses you of something that is so far from your nature that you in your mind think, this is absolutely ludacris and no one will believe this. However, as the days goes on you realize that people are starting to believe the lies. Even more hurtful is some of the people who claimed to love and know you are believing it too. Then the last straw is as you enter into the court room, “evidence” has been fabricated to support the lies.
I’m sure the question on MJ’s mind would be: how in the hell could the judicial system be so corrupt as to allow a completely innocent man to wind up in court and possibly convicted of something completely fabricated? Challenge is the only people who would know beyond a shadow of a doubt that MJ is innocent would be MJ himself and his accusers. Oh and most importantly, God.
By God’s grace, MJ was found not guilty. That does NOT erase the fact that it could have gone the other way and MJ, AN INNOCENT MAN, could have gone to jail for a crime that he did not commit…. All in the name of money.
How many other people have been wrongly convicted and it had gone unnoticed? How many others have lost their lives due to being framed for something they didn’t do!
I believe that MJ would want to expose this corruption and speak for those men and women wrongly convicted who were now voiceless.
Enter hoaxville.
From the start I have said that this is not just a game. Many ARG’s have been constructed that have an element of social awareness…. Open our eyes to the true state of the world. I believe MJ is doing that right now.
How could it be displayed that the judicial system could actually wrongly find someone guilty of a crime that they beyond doubt did not commit? And how could it be displayed on such a grand scale that people would have to take notice?
How about murdering one of the most recognizable faces in the world? Oh but wait, then proving that he didn’t do it by producing the victim as being alive.
To me Conrad Murray HAD to be found guilty to PROVE that there is something wrong with the way things are done.
So for many this verdict is virtually the end. Justice for MJ! To me it’s just entering a new phase of getting true justice. Not just for MJ but for we the people who are supposedly protected by a flawed system.
So people keep your seatbelts on…. I don’t believe this ride is over…. The best is yet to come!
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Personally, I was a part of the 'Michael used a replacement body' theory. These events only support my belief :p
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Guilty.. Michael would not let an innocent go to prison because of him. This is something i will never believe.
It was all a delusional imagination of mine. I don't care how this goes out, I don't care if for opening my mouth to say my opinion people will jump in my head again, I need to take it out of my soul now.
I am exhausted, sad, consumed. I can't believe that what I feared for became reality. How can this be just an illusion? It's not. No one can joke with the justice of a country. No one. That's why I never enjoyed this, for me it was never about entertainment and only I know how much it hurts me. I care for him as I care for my brother and for me it was no game. I was a stupid vulnerable. I believed in "clues" and "informers" and everything.
Yes, it is a burst for the moment, a consequence of these 2 years of sleepless nights and daily struggle of "what ifs" and "maybe he's alive". I cannot understand, I simply fail to understand why this all began, what was the gain of those who fed it?
What I feel now ... I don't know how to say it. I simply look at all this and I have no words anymore.
Anna, I hope what happened today is confirmation of what I have been saying for long time, Conrad is not in hoax. His conviction does not prove that Michael is dead. CM was ordered to kill MJ, that's what he tried to do, but failed. How he failed, was MJ saved but announced dead or Michael escaped before CM killed him, will be revealed later. Moreover, Part II will be discovering organizers of Michael murder THA PROSECUTION FAILED TO DO. Think this way: WHTHER mICHAEL IS ALIVE OR DEAD/KILLED, CONVICTION IN INVOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER IS NOT A JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL.
SO, I FILL THE STORY TO BE CONTINUED AND MJ WILL COME OUT WITH HIS TRUE STORY AND CHARGES.
ANOTHER OPTION, CONRAD HELPED MICHAEL TO ESCAPE FOR A LOT OF MONEY IN TURN TO SERVE COUPLE OF YEARS IN PRISON. ANYONE WOULD DO THAT FOR LET'S SAY $50 MILLION. WHO CARES HE WON'T BE A DOCTOR ANYMORE IF HE CAN HAVE EVERYTHING FOR THAT MONEY AND ENOUGH FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE. BUT THE SAD PART OF THIS OPTION IS THAT MICHAEL IS NOT COMING BACK.
Don't panic yet.
This is of course only my opinion.
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took me 2 HOURS to get on here...sigh
I was expecting Not Guilty, but after the reactions, it solidified to me Mike is still alive...a no brainer...
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Jermaine and Latoya both said "Michael is with us."
They kept talking about him in the present tense and another thing I noticed that NO ONE is talking about. Remember the woman holding the person who was too emotional? This person was wearing all black, not once did this person turn to look at the camera.
I am starting to think that maybe THAT was Michael. Everyone else is crying, jumping for joy, and this person who is covered in all black is "too emotional' to look at the camera.
Another key reference was when they said "the jury didn't look at Murray. Which is a sign of a guilty verdict."
Didn't they say the same thing about Michael's verdict? I am definitely not giving up, this is going to get interesting. I'll only stop if Murray is actually sentenced to prison.
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It is strange that a person which has known must pass 4 years in prison does not have no reaction :D....seemed knew the script. typing/..great actor Conrad!!! bearhug
We wait for the next action.... michael-jackson/ mj_dance/ /cook/
moonwalk_/
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Guilty.. Michael would not let an innocent go to prison because of him. This is something i will never believe.
It was all a delusional imagination of mine. I don't care how this goes out, I don't care if for opening my mouth to say my opinion people will jump in my head again, I need to take it out of my soul now.
I am exhausted, sad, consumed. I can't believe that what I feared for became reality. How can this be just an illusion? It's not. No one can joke with the justice of a country. No one. That's why I never enjoyed this, for me it was never about entertainment and only I know how much it hurts me. I care for him as I care for my brother and for me it was no game. I was a stupid vulnerable. I believed in "clues" and "informers" and everything.
Yes, it is a burst for the moment, a consequence of these 2 years of sleepless nights and daily struggle of "what ifs" and "maybe he's alive". I cannot understand, I simply fail to understand why this all began, what was the gain of those who fed it?
What I feel now ... I don't know how to say it. I simply look at all this and I have no words anymore.
Anna please dont lose faith now. They just put Murray in handcuffs and walked him out a door and thats all we saw. There is not proof that he is actually in custody. For all we know he could be in a jacuzzi somewhere having a cocktail.
I totally agree with Bec. Troy Davis was a potentially innocent man that was put to death for murder in Sept. after serving 20+ years on death row even tho all of the witnesses retracted their stories and said that they were forced to testify by police. There was no DNA evidence and he was not allowed to take a lie detector test. I think it is very possible that a part of this hoax is to expose the flaws in our justice system.
Just imagine how much more effective the BAM will be after a guilty verdict. Plus it makes for better "documentary" material. Anna, I pray that you have peace of mind and I wish you all the love in the world.
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The thing that struck me was Murray had no expression (indicating he already knew there would be a guilty verdict) and even Chernoff said something about probation sentencing having been already discussed.
The remand into custody did not surprise me, I think they did that for Murray's safety.
A few other things I thought was odd....
1) Murray didn't stand for the reading of the verdict
2) The judge asked the jurors their individual votes (this is usually requested by the lead defense attorney)
3) The judge instructed that the jury could not recieve "payment" for speaking to anyone about the case for 90 days.
4) The request for remand was given AFTER the establishment of a sentencing date, not before.
5) Murray was handcuffed while Judge Pastor was giving remand explanation and not after(how would the convicted know to what he was being into custody for?)
I'm sure as the video's a played over and over over the next few days other things will stand out....it just all happened so fast. :roll:
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Hi all, I wrote this beforehand to copy/paste from notepad
before even reading what you all said regarding today,
so sorry if I repeat somebody.
This is just my take on what's going on.
I honestly can't see why Murray should be "not guilty".
It doesn't matter if it was him or not him who injected the
alleged victim with lethal dose of whatever it was.
It's not a murder trial. It's involuntary manslaughter.
He was criminally negligent and it was shown even with absent
drip, so I don't see how jurors, and we assume they are real
or at least act like they are real, could find him innocent.
And really, do we have 24/7 reality TV cameras on him now, watching
how and when he goes "to jail"?
Also I'm not sure he is innocent cutie pie, to me he looks like
a foolish incompetent Dr. with signs of Money Love and narcissism.
Perfect Fall Guy.
We do not know real reasons for this possible hoax.
We do not know. We only guess.
I don't think it's for fun, I always believed reasons are
serious, so serious it's dangerous. Also I don't think there
will be "Bams day" soon or ever - Michael Joe probably wants
calm safe life behind the curtain! Well deserved life.
That's exactly what Elvis wanted if he hoaxed his death.
Joe or Joseph.. 2005 trial was darn real. It was a hoax only on
a prosecution side as they had no real evidence, but for Michael
it was oh so real and horrible :cry:. And he was Michael Joe. Real man.
So let us all decide for ourselves does it matter or it doesn't
matter. And Jermaine together with LaToya do not help here
with their "Of course it's Joe!" :P
Again, Joe or not, it's up to us to guess what it does or
doesn't mean.
This trial was odd. Very odd. Everything about this case is.
But I'm not American, I'm not American coroner nor American attorney, so I do not know if what's bizarre to me here is indeed illegal and bizarre in US! I really do not know.
Hoax or real crime, it's sad to see people just giving up and
leaving and "moving on" and simply ABANDONING Michael.
I'll stay "on" till I know what happened on June 9th.. oops,
I mean June 25th ;) 2009 with our beloved Michael Joe.
Maybe it will take years or my entire life, I do not know.
I only want all evils to be exposed and to know the Truth. That's it.
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For those who are losing faith....let me ask you this.
Why would you believe ....
1) Michael's death was a hoax
2) Michael's memorial was a hoax
3) Michael's burial was a hoax
4) Murray's trial was a hoax
.....and NOT BELIEVE this verdict is a hoax? :(
....you think a real verdict could come out of a fake trial? :?
JUST BECAUSE YOU READ IT IN A MAGAZINE OR SEE IT ON A TV SCREEN DON'T MAKE IT ACTUAL/FACTUAL- Michael Jackson :geek:
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So much for the truth will prevail!!! If he thought he'd go free....
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Guilty.. Michael would not let an innocent go to prison because of him. This is something i will never believe.
It was all a delusional imagination of mine. I don't care how this goes out, I don't care if for opening my mouth to say my opinion people will jump in my head again, I need to take it out of my soul now.
I am exhausted, sad, consumed. I can't believe that what I feared for became reality. How can this be just an illusion? It's not. No one can joke with the justice of a country. No one. That's why I never enjoyed this, for me it was never about entertainment and only I know how much it hurts me. I care for him as I care for my brother and for me it was no game. I was a stupid vulnerable. I believed in "clues" and "informers" and everything.
Yes, it is a burst for the moment, a consequence of these 2 years of sleepless nights and daily struggle of "what ifs" and "maybe he's alive". I cannot understand, I simply fail to understand why this all began, what was the gain of those who fed it?
What I feel now ... I don't know how to say it. I simply look at all this and I have no words anymore.
Ana, I understand what you are going through.. I said it that they will find him guilty, but he will not do prison, he will do house arrest, until Michael comes back.. Just keep the faith, I understand implicitly what you are going through, i felt the same, but like they say it is not OVER UNTIL THE FAT LADY SINGS. SO please keep the faith, this is not over..It is good you got everything out of your system and no one will jump on you, it is your right to express what you feel, this is good therapy, if you need to scream cry or whatever you need to do just do it.. I know what I am talking about. If you need to talk PM me pls. love and blessings.
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YES! I knew it and I wrote it long long ago. No surprise at all. The sting is against the medical field, doctors maybe some pharmacies too. The show is not over yet guys! Hold on tight! :mrgreen:
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I popped back in to add that I love that picture of Murray that TMZ posted. I dont know why but it made me giggle bounce/
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I felt bad seeing CM lead away in cuffs....even tho I know it was just part of the Greatest Show on Earth. It really upsets me that my friend...who is a non-beLIEver...said that he hopes someone kills Murray in jail. I keep trying to explain to him all the inconsistancies, etc. but he still thinks CM is guilty and should die. I hope CM is kept safe until it is revealed that he didn't actually kill MJ.
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I felt bad seeing CM lead away in cuffs....even tho I know it was just part of the Greatest Show on Earth. It really upsets me that my friend...who is a non-beLIEver...said that he hopes someone kills Murray in jail. I keep trying to explain to him all the inconsistancies, etc. but he still thinks CM is guilty and should die. I hope CM is kept safe until it is revealed that he didn't actually kill MJ.
I think this was exactly why they did take Murray and hide him away, to keep him from being harmed.
I think too what we have to remember, if Michael is mirroring this 2005 trial, many people were violently angry that he was acquitted. They JUST KNEW he was a pedophile and "paid" his way out of a guilty verdict. He was an innocent man, but people still thought there was no justice.
Fastforward to present day...People JUST KNEW Murray was guilty (and would have been violently angry if "justice" didn't prevail)....so he was found guilty. No one can say he "paid" for his verdict and everyone thinks justice was served.
Here's the rub....Murray is innocent and the courts are corrupt, so an innocent man goes to jail....but that fact can't be exposed unless you set up trap. So we haven't seen the end of it.
The "others" need to be brought to justice.
Murray is in good hands....imo, it's all apart of the plan. The handcuff's were a dramatic touch (I think they stole that idea from LiLo's probation hearing from a few weeks ago) ;)
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I have to admit that my heart is a bit heavy today. I was hoping for a not guilty verdict so that it would reconfirm that Michael is alive. I am not sure what to think now. I know that Conrad was guilty just for doing what he did to Michael. Michael could of either paid him off or was really in medical trouble and he escaped from Murray and everyone else at the hospital. I just feel like we all took 3 steps forward but we are now 4 steps back.
I know that this wasn't all for nothing. Yes, I have lost a lot of sleep and focused so much on this over the past two years. But, I have gained so much more. I have gained a new family in all of you. I have learned so much more about Michael the person. I have learned about the crazies inside and outside the government. Heck, I never would have known about the tunnels under the airport in Colorado. I never would of known about the illuminati. I could go on and on. But, I have become a more informed person because of you all and ultimately because of Michael. So thank you Michael and thank you hoax family!
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I felt bad seeing CM lead away in cuffs....even tho I know it was just part of the Greatest Show on Earth. It really upsets me that my friend...who is a non-beLIEver...said that he hopes someone kills Murray in jail. I keep trying to explain to him all the inconsistancies, etc. but he still thinks CM is guilty and should die. I hope CM is kept safe until it is revealed that he didn't actually kill MJ.
I think this was exactly why they did take Murray and hide him away, to keep him from being harmed.
I think too what we have to remember, if Michael is mirroring this 2005 trial, many people were violently angry that he was acquitted. They JUST KNEW he was a pedophile and "paid" his way out of a guilty verdict. He was an innocent man, but people still thought there was no justice.
Fastforward to present day...People JUST KNEW Murray was guilty (and would have been violently angry if "justice" didn't prevail)....so he was found guilty. No one can say he "paid" for his verdict and everyone thinks justice was served.
Here's the rub....Murray is innocent and the courts are corrupt, so an innocent man goes to jail....but that fact can't be exposed unless you set up trap. So we haven't seen the end of it.
The "others" need to be brought to justice.
Murray is in good hands....imo, it's all apart of the plan. The handcuff's were a dramatic touch (I think they stole that idea from LiLo's probation hearing from a few weeks ago) ;)
I believe you're right. My family pretty much said the same thing. If Murray was set free as of today, I'm sure that there are actually some very crazy ppl out there that would try and kill him. And that wouldn't be too cool. I notice how cool calm and collected he was when he heard the verdict. I honestly won't lie....it made me kind of upset to see the police handcuff him before he could even get out of his chair. That was a bit disturbing to me. But at the same time, his facial expression looked as if he said to himself, "I have no worries". Lol. I just still don't know what this means for us beLIEvers. LaToya among others who were close to Michael speak as if (TODAY) he really is gone....except for when Jermaine said, "He was in the room with us and that's why justice was served". Idk if he was speaking spiritually or not....so that's why it's yet and still confusing.
I agree with one of the ppl on here when they said had it not been for this case scenario, we probably would have been blinded by so many other worldly things. I too would have never known about the evils of the government / Illuminati and so forth.
We STILL should make a difference and change regardless if he is actually passed on to a better place or alive. We should all stick together and attempt to make this world a better place. :)
But yeah.....after getting that out, heart is still a bit worrisome and heavy. Speechless. :| pale/
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Oh dear, that pic of Connie is hilarious! TMZ should really get an award for their choice of pictures with articles.
About the verdict: maybe there has been a real case and real trial behind the scenes with this outcome. Not sure how I can fill that in yet, but that popped into my mind. This one was clearly fake and I really don't get how people can lose faith over this verdict. :?
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I felt bad seeing CM lead away in cuffs....even tho I know it was just part of the Greatest Show on Earth. It really upsets me that my friend...who is a non-beLIEver...said that he hopes someone kills Murray in jail. I keep trying to explain to him all the inconsistancies, etc. but he still thinks CM is guilty and should die. I hope CM is kept safe until it is revealed that he didn't actually kill MJ.
Regardless of the reality of the situation, I hope your friend learns that two wrongs don't make a right and taking the life of another human being still doesn't make things better whether it be by someone in jail or not. If all this turns out to really be just one big hoax or even the truth, God will see to it that whatever is intended for Murray will eventually happen. Pray for your friend that he/she has a better understanding. :) bearhug
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For those who are losing faith....let me ask you this.
Why would you believe ....
1) Michael's death was a hoax
2) Michael's memorial was a hoax
3) Michael's burial was a hoax
4) Murray's trial was a hoax
.....and NOT BELIEVE this verdict is a hoax? :(
....you think a real verdict could come out of a fake trial? :?
JUST BECAUSE YOU SEE IT ON A TV SCREEN OR READ IT IN A MAGAZINE DON'T MAKE IT ACTUAL/FACTUAL~ Michael Jackson[/b]
Stop.....Breathe.....Think :geek:
True true....VERY TRUE. I'm glad you said that. Now that I think about it, why didn't they interview the jury after the verdict was reached like they did in MJ's molestation case??? Not one time have we seen the jury with this case at all. That's a bit strange. Perhaps it is to protect their privacy and such....Idk. But you made a very good point. :)
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Smile ... :mrgreen:
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This is getting Crazy Murray Guilty I dindt expect that I still Believe that Mj is alive anyway this is very Strange whats Next BAM ?
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Reality check!
Imagine if You yorself was convicted on somthng u never did- will You miss opportunity of the last stand before jury to proclaime ur innocence?
I wl b vocing my soul out to fight unjustice!
Yet, CM is just calm beyond believe- true 007 agent@@.
Cheer up people@- Guilty verdict is NECESSARY for final focus on Michael Innocence and Greater outcome of his COMEBACK for human awakening!
Nail'em MJ, shady fat cats is deserve that!
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Hmm... It seems to me that a Guilty verdict isn't necessarily a bad thing. In my opinion, I think it really just all depends on why you think the hoax happened to begin with. So many inconsistencies have been found that can't just be swept away because of a verdict - did everything suddenly become "crystal-clear" after a guilty verdict that make people think, "OMG .. He's really gone!"? To me, this trial only served one purpose, and that was to leave me with far more questions than we've ever gotten answers.
Also, people have said that there were tweets and comments that made them lose hope. Again, I can understand this to a point, but not totally. When Catherine came out of the court house, she looked relieved. LaToya and Jermaine both interesting comments about 'Michael was with us'. Did I take that to mean he was literally in the court room, no - but perhaps he was and we didn't know .. none of us were in there. Did they mean in a spiritual fashion, most likely - but how many times have we all told someone, "I can't be there, but I'll be there in spirit!"
Also, LaToya did say something else interesting on her way out of the court house today. When asked if there was anything she would like to say to Michael if she could (the reporter clearly asked, "if you could"), her response was, "Oh, I will ..." after a short pause, she said, "Michael loves every one of you out here" or something to that extent .. not he "would have loved", but "Michael loves".
Tonight I looked at some tweets from the family and close friends. Several are referring to Murray being a Pawn and that others will be going down. Well, what if Michael's plan was to expose ALL the corruption, or corruption in the music industry? For all we know, Murray did know he would be found guilty, like others have said, and this is not IT, but this is a step to getting to IT. Maybe more people will be taken down now that they think their "fall guy" has fallen??
To me, what it all boils down to is that just like none of us can actually, beyond the shadow of a doubt prove MJ is still here, they still haven't proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that he is gone, either. And, if he is still here, none of us have any definitive proof regarding what the motives of a hoax may be. So, this guilty verdict doesn't really change anything to me. Maybe a theory of WHY there would be a hoax changes, but that's about all I see changed.
Hope I haven't offended anyone. :)
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I was expecting either way, no shock, or anything, just one big circus penguin/ though i noticed alot people feel confused or lost with it, what part is lost of all this?
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I noticed a lot of clues and references after the verdict as well.
Did anyone notice the sign of Murray's head on top of Michael body on the Thriller album? Also did anyone notice the Guy Fawkes mask that was split with Michael's face?
Basically it's like one side was the Guy Fawkes mask and the other side was Michael's face. On top of the poster it said "This isn't a revolution. This is our evolution."
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Something popped in my mind which is probably really obvious and been mentioned before - in TII he says "four years to get it right" and it just happens to be four years for CM.
Catherine23
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Oh dear, that pic of Connie is hilarious! TMZ should really get an award for their choice of pictures with articles.
About the verdict: maybe there has been a real case and real trial behind the scenes with this outcome. Not sure how I can fill that in yet, but that popped into my mind. This one was clearly fake and I really don't get how people can lose faith over this verdict. :?
I agree Souza bounce/.....is an act of this great movie....Mike is a great mind and if he decide to make Murray guilty there is a reason /judge/ ...Waiting for...united in L.O.V.E. !!! typing/ bearhug
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For those who are losing faith....let me ask you this.
Why would you believe ....
1) Michael's death was a hoax
2) Michael's memorial was a hoax
3) Michael's burial was a hoax
4) Murray's trial was a hoax
.....and NOT BELIEVE this verdict is a hoax? :(
....you think a real verdict could come out of a fake trial? :?
JUST BECAUSE YOU SEE IT ON A TV SCREEN OR READ IT IN A MAGAZINE DON'T MAKE IT ACTUAL/FACTUAL~ Michael Jackson[/b]
Stop.....Breathe.....Think :geek:
I agree with you ENTIRELY. I also had the same thoughts; what has a verdict got to do with anything? I think people losing faith just see it as an ending, like we'll never hear anything more from the Jackson family. I doubt it though!
Catherine23
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did to many ppl expect bam, today??? did some expect murray to say, 'punked' we got you! or perhaps peel of his latex mask revealing jacko?
i posted a few days ago too, i think guilty verdict needs to happen to punctuate the reason / lesson that mj is doing this. CM needs to be found guilty. its part of the plan.
keep the faith baby yeah.... coz its just a matter of time...
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Murray being found guilty is what I expected. It fits with the murder conspiracy theory. If he had been found not guilty he could not have been placed in safe custody. I still believe that AEG conspired on this and Murray, in his appeal, will be able to instigate them once and for all. I believe that Murray was a part of the plot in that he helped Michael to fake his death to pacify the wills of those who wanted Michael gone. There are others who many feel are on Michael’s side that I disagree with. But that’s neither here nor there. I don’t believe this is over by a long shot. And yeah, I still believe the debunked coroner van video was the real deal. It was never debunked to me just because someone came out and said they did it to make a point. Just doesn’t fit. The media is the devil and I take what they say with a grain of salt. There was this look in Conrad’s eyes that said something. They seemed to say, look deeper but don’t stray too far away from the obvious.
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For those who are losing faith....let me ask you this.
Why would you believe ....
1) Michael's death was a hoax
2) Michael's memorial was a hoax
3) Michael's burial was a hoax
4) Murray's trial was a hoax
.....and NOT BELIEVE this verdict is a hoax? :(
....you think a real verdict could come out of a fake trial? :?
JUST BECAUSE YOU SEE IT ON A TV SCREEN OR READ IT IN A MAGAZINE DON'T MAKE IT ACTUAL/FACTUAL~ Michael Jackson[/b]
Stop.....Breathe.....Think :geek:
snoopy. i LOVE your post. so true hey?
Thank you bearhug
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For those who are losing faith....let me ask you this.
Why would you believe ....
1) Michael's death was a hoax
2) Michael's memorial was a hoax
3) Michael's burial was a hoax
4) Murray's trial was a hoax
.....and NOT BELIEVE this verdict is a hoax? :(
....you think a real verdict could come out of a fake trial? :?
JUST BECAUSE YOU SEE IT ON A TV SCREEN OR READ IT IN A MAGAZINE DON'T MAKE IT ACTUAL/FACTUAL~ Michael Jackson[/b]
Stop.....Breathe.....Think :geek:
snoopy. i LOVE your post. so true hey?
Thank you bearhug
Elementary my dear snoopy /bravo/
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Hi all, I wrote this beforehand to copy/paste from notepad
before even reading what you all said regarding today,
so sorry if I repeat somebody.
This is just my take on what's going on.
I honestly can't see why Murray should be "not guilty".
It doesn't matter if it was him or not him who injected the
alleged victim with lethal dose of whatever it was.
It's not a murder trial. It's involuntary manslaughter.
He was criminally negligent and it was shown even with absent
drip, so I don't see how jurors, and we assume they are real
or at least act like they are real, could find him innocent.
And really, do we have 24/7 reality TV cameras on him now, watching
how and when he goes "to jail"?
Also I'm not sure he is innocent cutie pie, to me he looks like
a foolish incompetent Dr. with signs of Money Love and narcissism.
Perfect Fall Guy.
We do not know real reasons for this possible hoax.
We do not know. We only guess.
I don't think it's for fun, I always believed reasons are
serious, so serious it's dangerous. Also I don't think there
will be "Bams day" soon or ever - Michael Joe probably wants
calm safe life behind the curtain! Well deserved life.
That's exactly what Elvis wanted if he hoaxed his death.
Joe or Joseph.. 2005 trial was darn real. It was a hoax only on
a prosecution side as they had no real evidence, but for Michael
it was oh so real and horrible :cry:. And he was Michael Joe. Real man.
So let us all decide for ourselves does it matter or it doesn't
matter. And Jermaine together with LaToya do not help here
with their "Of course it's Joe!" :P
Again, Joe or not, it's up to us to guess what it does or
doesn't mean.
This trial was odd. Very odd. Everything about this case is.
But I'm not American, I'm not American coroner nor American attorney, so I do not know if what's bizarre to me here is indeed illegal and bizarre in US! I really do not know.
Hoax or real crime, it's sad to see people just giving up and
leaving and "moving on" and simply ABANDONING Michael.
I'll stay "on" till I know what happened on June 9th.. oops,
I mean June 25th ;) 2009 with our beloved Michael Joe.
Maybe it will take years or my entire life, I do not know.
I only want all evils to be exposed and to know the Truth. That's it.
That reminds me, in Chernoff's closing argument, he said "Pay no attention to the MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN. Interesting is it not? lol. And also when the judge was handed the paper work right before the verdict, he pointed out that yet again, the date of the "incident" was written wrong. To add a couple things on to the observations you all have. SO there were odd things happening on closing argument and verdict day too, I wouldn't give up just yet.