Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Contradictions and all stuff that doesn't add up => Topic started by: fatalkiss26 on October 28, 2011, 03:47:25 AM
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORR_t59h5Nk&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
If this was discussed, I apologize...
You see them walk into the mausoleum and you don't see them go anywhere near where his "body" is supposedly placed.
also, watch the eyes of all of them when they talk about Forest Lawn, Michael and his death...
I've noticed this alot watching Jermaine interviews, but after watching this clip, its pretty obvious they are lying...
http://www.blifaloo.com/info/lies.php
Signs of Deception:
Body Language of Lies:
• Physical expression will be limited and stiff, with few arm and hand movements. Hand, arm and leg movement are toward their own body the liar takes up less space.
• A person who is lying to you will avoid making eye contact.
• Hands touching their face, throat & mouth. Touching or scratching the nose or behind their ear. Not likely to touch his chest/heart with an open hand.
Emotional Gestures & Contradiction
• Timing and duration of emotional gestures and emotions are off a normal pace. The display of emotion is delayed, stays longer it would naturally, then stops suddenly.
• Timing is off between emotions gestures/expressions and words. Example: Someone says "I love it!" when receiving a gift, and then smile after making that statement, rather then at the same time the statement is made.
• Gestures/expressions don’t match the verbal statement, such as frowning when saying “I love you.”
• Expressions are limited to mouth movements when someone is faking emotions (like happy, surprised, sad, awe, )instead of the whole face. For example; when someone smiles naturally their whole face is involved: jaw/cheek movement, eyes and forehead push down, etc.
Also see our article on micro expressions & lying.
Interactions and Reactions
• A guilty person gets defensive. An innocent person will often go on the offensive.
• A liar is uncomfortable facing his questioner/accuser and may turn his head or body away.
• A liar might unconsciously place objects (book, coffee cup, etc.) between themselves and you.
Verbal Context and Content
• A liar will use your words to make answer a question. When asked, “Did you eat the last cookie?” The liar answers, “No, I did not eat the last cookie.”
•A statement with a contraction is more likely to be truthful: “ I didn't do it” instead of “I did not do it”
• Liars sometimes avoid "lying" by not making direct statements. They imply answers instead of denying something directly.
• The guilty person may speak more than natural, adding unnecessary details to convince you... they are not comfortable with silence or pauses in the conversation.
• A liar may leave out pronouns and speak in a monotonous tone. When a truthful statement is made the pronoun is emphasized as much or more than the rest of the words in a statement.
• Words may be garbled and spoken softly, and syntax and grammar may be off. In other
words, his sentences will likely be muddled rather than emphasized.
• The use of distancing language.
Also see our article on Statement Analysis for a more in-depth look at word analysis techniques used by interrogators.
Other signs of a lie:
• If you believe someone is lying, then change subject of a conversation quickly, a liar follows along willingly and becomes more relaxed. The guilty wants the subject changed; an innocent person may be confused by the sudden change in topics and will want to back to the previous subject.
• Using humor or sarcasm to avoid a subject.
Final Notes:
Obviously, just because someone exhibits one or more of these signs does not make them a liar. The above behaviors should be compared to a persons base (normal) behavior whenever possible.
Most lie detecting experts agree that a combination of body language and other cues must be used to make an educated guess on whether someone is telling the truth or a lie.
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Thank you for sharing this video Fatalkiss.
I don't think that his brothers are actually lying. They're telling the truth by saying that their brother is not there, is not with them at that particular moment ;) .
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It reminded me of this:
http://hoaxornot.blogspot.com/2010/04/how-to-spot-lieben-evenstad-brian-oxman.html
party/
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particularly loved the quote right at the end ... ' he is our brother and we love him and would do anything to have him back here with us'
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORR_t59h5Nk&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
If this was discussed, I apologize...
You see them walk into the mausoleum and you don't see them go anywhere near where his "body" is supposedly placed.
also, watch the eyes of all of them when they talk about Forest Lawn, Michael and his death...
I've noticed this alot watching Jermaine interviews, but after watching this clip, its pretty obvious they are lying...
http://www.blifaloo.com/info/lies.php (http://www.blifaloo.com/info/lies.php)
Signs of Deception:
Body Language of Lies:
• Physical expression will be limited and stiff, with few arm and hand movements. Hand, arm and leg movement are toward their own body the liar takes up less space.
• A person who is lying to you will avoid making eye contact.
• Hands touching their face, throat & mouth. Touching or scratching the nose or behind their ear. Not likely to touch his chest/heart with an open hand.
Emotional Gestures & Contradiction
• Timing and duration of emotional gestures and emotions are off a normal pace. The display of emotion is delayed, stays longer it would naturally, then stops suddenly.
• Timing is off between emotions gestures/expressions and words. Example: Someone says "I love it!" when receiving a gift, and then smile after making that statement, rather then at the same time the statement is made.
• Gestures/expressions don’t match the verbal statement, such as frowning when saying “I love you.”
• Expressions are limited to mouth movements when someone is faking emotions (like happy, surprised, sad, awe, )instead of the whole face. For example; when someone smiles naturally their whole face is involved: jaw/cheek movement, eyes and forehead push down, etc.
Also see our article on micro expressions & lying.
Interactions and Reactions
• A guilty person gets defensive. An innocent person will often go on the offensive.
• A liar is uncomfortable facing his questioner/accuser and may turn his head or body away.
• A liar might unconsciously place objects (book, coffee cup, etc.) between themselves and you.
Verbal Context and Content
• A liar will use your words to make answer a question. When asked, “Did you eat the last cookie?” The liar answers, “No, I did not eat the last cookie.”
•A statement with a contraction is more likely to be truthful: “ I didn't do it” instead of “I did not do it”
• Liars sometimes avoid "lying" by not making direct statements. They imply answers instead of denying something directly.
• The guilty person may speak more than natural, adding unnecessary details to convince you... they are not comfortable with silence or pauses in the conversation.
• A liar may leave out pronouns and speak in a monotonous tone. When a truthful statement is made the pronoun is emphasized as much or more than the rest of the words in a statement.
• Words may be garbled and spoken softly, and syntax and grammar may be off. In other
words, his sentences will likely be muddled rather than emphasized.
• The use of distancing language.
Also see our article on Statement Analysis for a more in-depth look at word analysis techniques used by interrogators.
Other signs of a lie:
• If you believe someone is lying, then change subject of a conversation quickly, a liar follows along willingly and becomes more relaxed. The guilty wants the subject changed; an innocent person may be confused by the sudden change in topics and will want to back to the previous subject.
• Using humor or sarcasm to avoid a subject.
Final Notes:
Obviously, just because someone exhibits one or more of these signs does not make them a liar. The above behaviors should be compared to a persons base (normal) behavior whenever possible.
Most lie detecting experts agree that a combination of body language and other cues must be used to make an educated guess on whether someone is telling the truth or a lie.
If we take all of these examples or signs of someone lying then half of the people have lied on the stand in court.
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particularly loved the quote right at the end ... ' he is our brother and we love him and would do anything to have him back here with us'
But the kicker is the last part of that quote "....whether he sang another note or not"....!!!!! In other words, Michael Jackson The King of Pop is dead, but Michael Jackson, the person, is ALIVE!!!!
party/
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particularly loved the quote right at the end ... ' he is our brother and we love him and would do anything to have him back here with us'
But the kicker is the last part of that quote "....whether he sang another note or not"....!!!!! In other words, Michael Jackson The King of Pop is dead, but Michael Jackson, the person, is ALIVE!!!!
party/
oopsie, i forgot to write the rest of the quote (the main part, lol) when i last posted. thank you youarenotalone... yes, definitely the kicker...
MJ lives /woohoo/
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Does anyone know if the tomb is still unmarked?
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Does anyone know if the tomb is still unmarked?
apparently still is unmarked
these threads are good reading
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php/topic,18460.0.html
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php/topic,15096.0.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ACwqsQp28s hmmm does this song refer to where he is hiding... or his unmarked grave....
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If you search the names of people buried there, Michael's is not listed.
mj_dance/