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Hoax Theories => References & Similarities => Michael Jackson & Elvis Presley Similarities => Topic started by: peruvit on October 09, 2011, 08:50:50 PM

Title: MJ'S Friend Says "Michael wanted to die like Elvis: with a BANG!"....
Post by: peruvit on October 09, 2011, 08:50:50 PM
Watching HLN rite now and a middle eastern gentlemen named Deepak Chopra shared words mj said to him that were along the lines of "Michael told me he didn't want to die like Marlon Brando; in a whimper, he wanted to die like Elvis with a BANG!!!
I thought it was rather interesting that Michael would tell someone that when he told LMP that he was afraid he would die like Elvis.
This Hoax must have been planned years in advance.
He later talked of how Michael called him a short while before his death to talk of his excitement and how he had a new song called ''Greed'' coming out...sounds like the theme of Conrad Murray Trial. lolol/
Just thought it was something to share with you all.
Peace moonwalk_/
Title: Re: MJ'S Friend Says "Michael wanted to die like Elvis: with a BANG!"....
Post by: Mish1981 on October 09, 2011, 09:38:39 PM
 :) Thank you for sharing!
Title: Re: MJ'S Friend Says "Michael wanted to die like Elvis: with a BANG!"....
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on October 09, 2011, 09:52:12 PM
Thank you for posting this.. Very interesting. I found some lyrics about greed, It does not say it is from Michael. I will let you be the judge..

   
Greed
    
     Destroy Society, Erase your enemy
for trying to break you down
Shut down, Shut up, Give in, Give up
The only thing that exists in their poisoned mind
I'm not gonna take it anymore
This is my life, I wanna have control
I'm gonna make history
As I'm going on a crusade with my '44

Greed feel the greed
Greed taste the greed

He feeds of the other people's misery
The power is his greed
He's trying to play god with your life
But we all can see through
A lot of people have been suffering
And that gives him a kick
Push him against the wall
And let him taste your fist

Greed feel the greed
Greed taste the greed

For how long can a man hold his position
Do anything and still get away with it
What makes him so fucking special
A corrupted man with power as his only friend
Execution is the only justice

Justice...

Greed feel the greed
Greed taste the greed
Title: Re: MJ'S Friend Says "Michael wanted to die like Elvis: with a BANG!"....
Post by: Laine29 on October 10, 2011, 02:47:26 AM
....can't wait for Michael to come back with a "BIG BANG"    :)
Title: Re: MJ'S Friend Says "Michael wanted to die like Elvis: with a BANG!"....
Post by: Aintnosunshine on October 10, 2011, 12:12:01 PM



Doubt it`s Michael.  "F***ng" is not his style ....
Title: Re: MJ'S Friend Says "Michael wanted to die like Elvis: with a BANG!"....
Post by: peruvit on October 10, 2011, 12:47:53 PM
Yea sorry guys the song is ''breathe'' not ''greed'' i must understood deepaks accent.
I wonder when we'll here this song maybe on BAM. moonwalk_/
Title: Re: MJ'S Friend Says "Michael wanted to die like Elvis: with a BANG!"....
Post by: lorela on October 10, 2011, 01:59:44 PM
all4loveandbelieve, that's Pain's song Greed:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vlUHdJOxtM[/youtube]

Title: Re: MJ'S Friend Says "Michael wanted to die like Elvis: with a BANG!"....
Post by: katooooooo on October 10, 2011, 02:47:49 PM
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Doubt it`s Michael.  "F***ng" is not his style ....

It's not his style, but he say it in Scream ''Stop fuc**ng with me''
Title: Re: MJ'S Friend Says "Michael wanted to die like Elvis: with a BANG!"....
Post by: Pippi Longstocking on October 10, 2011, 02:51:30 PM
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Doubt it`s Michael.  "F***ng" is not his style ....

Totally agree with that...

but thank you for sharing!  :)
Title: Re: MJ'S Friend Says "Michael wanted to die like Elvis: with a BANG!"....
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on October 10, 2011, 03:32:24 PM
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all4loveandbelieve, that's Pain's song Greed:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vlUHdJOxtM[/youtube]



Thanks, but I did say I do not know who sings it.. Now i know why they are annoying.. Hate that music, The lyrics kind of telling us how Michael would feel.. IMO.. i said kind of.. lol
Title: Re: MJ'S Friend Says "Michael wanted to die like Elvis: with a BANG!"....
Post by: 2good2btrue on October 11, 2011, 03:09:34 AM
Music journalist Chet Flippo, editorial director for the Country Music Television cable channel and its website, CMT.com, tells a fascinating story in his latest Nashville Skyline column about embattled publishing mogul Rupert Murdoch’s role in the waning days of Elvis Presley’s life.

Now that Murdoch and his News Corp.  are embroiled in the cellphone hacking scandal that’s rocking the United Kingdom, Flippo revisits the period in the 1970s when the Australian media giant was lobbying to bring his gossip-mongering ways to the U.S. by acquiring two Texas newspapers -- the San Antonio News and the San Antonio Express.

“He later combined both newspapers as the San Antonio Express-News, but early on, he instructed the News staff to turn the paper into a ‘screamer.’ And the paper soon did so. With a vengeance,” Flippo writes. “The staff began introducing Murdoch’s patented tabloid formula of sensationalism, sex, celebrities, crime and corruption. The facts be damned."Flippo notes Murdoch’s campaign against the Rolling Stones’ 1975 tour, the staging of which included a giant inflatable phallus, which succeeded in prompting the group to forgo that particular prop when the tour reached San Antonio -- the only U.S. tour stop where they abandoned it.

“That kind of institutionalized anti-rock company policy,” Flippo writes, “may well have been what led to the book that may have helped to kill Elvis Presley.”He’s referring to the salacious 1977 book “Elvis: What Happened?” based entirely on stories told by former bodyguards Red and Sonny West and Dave Hebler, who recently had been fired by Presley’s father, Vernon.

"Objectively speaking, the book was a true Murdoch hatchet job," Flippo says. "It laid out all of Elvis’ dirty laundry that you didn’t want -- or need -- to know... It became a bestseller, and the profits went to Murdoch’s News Corp., not to the author. It was written by Steve Dunleavy, a hard-drinking, controversial Australian reporter greatly favored by Murdoch...

“For the first time,” Flippo writes, “the book revealed the full extent of Elvis’ complete and total dependence on a long list of prescription drugs. And it was not a pretty story. It was a virtual pharmacopia of drugs and other sundry and tawdry personal details about Elvis. Close Elvis associates have said the book had a devastating effect on Presley."

Flippo adds considerable detail from his own interviews with Dunleavy about his dubious ethical practices while working for Murdoch, which aren’t pretty either.

Near the end, Flippo points out a conspicious bit of timing: “The book was published in early August of 1977. Elvis died on the floor of his bathroom in Graceland two weeks later, on Aug. 16, 1977.”


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2011/07/rupert-murdoch-elvis-presley-gossip.html
Title: Re: MJ'S Friend Says "Michael wanted to die like Elvis: with a BANG!"....
Post by: TheMoonIsDancing on October 11, 2011, 09:00:37 AM
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Watching HLN rite now and a middle eastern gentlemen named Deepak Chopra shared words mj said to him that were along the lines of "Michael told me he didn't want to die like Marlon Brando; in a whimper, he wanted to die like Elvis with a BANG!!!
I thought it was rather interesting that Michael would tell someone that when he told LMP that he was afraid he would die like Elvis.
This Hoax must have been planned years in advance.
He later talked of how Michael called him a short while before his death to talk of his excitement and how he had a new song called ''Greed'' coming out...sounds like the theme of Conrad Murray Trial. lolol/
Just thought it was something to share with you all.
Peace moonwalk_/

Well, if this isn't a hoax then this would be an odd and somewhat disrespectful thing to say about Brando. Marlon Brando was a 'second father' to Michael, and I'm sure his death has hurt Michael deeply. It was like losing family to him. Now Brando died of Lung Failure and MJ's autopsy said that he had an inflamed lung, right?
Elvis has been thought to have faked his death because of inconsistencies and clues. Well, Elvis doesn't leave clues anymore but MJ sure does! :)
Title: Re: MJ'S Friend Says "Michael wanted to die like Elvis: with a BANG!"....
Post by: PureLove on October 11, 2011, 10:21:38 AM
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Watching HLN rite now and a middle eastern gentlemen named Deepak Chopra shared words mj said to him that were along the lines of "Michael told me he didn't want to die like Marlon Brando; in a whimper, he wanted to die like Elvis with a BANG!!!
I thought it was rather interesting that Michael would tell someone that when he told LMP that he was afraid he would die like Elvis.
This Hoax must have been planned years in advance.
He later talked of how Michael called him a short while before his death to talk of his excitement and how he had a new song called ''Greed'' coming out...sounds like the theme of Conrad Murray Trial. lolol/
Just thought it was something to share with you all.
Peace moonwalk_/

Thank you for sharing this. Deepak Chopra had many interesting tweets after Michael "died". We discussed about them long ago but I never heard of him saying about Michael wanted to die like Elvis. This is great. How interesting that Michael told LMP that he would end like her dad too. And he did for sure! And I'm expecting him to do a big big BANG with his return. Can't wait! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: MJ'S Friend Says "Michael wanted to die like Elvis: with a BANG!"....
Post by: Tink on January 02, 2012, 06:51:09 PM
I do wish someone would investigate Deepak Chopra himself of being a fake. He's used Ghost Writers on almost every book.
Uri Gheller, so many, many fakes around Michael, it spins my head!
Title: Re: MJ'S Friend Says "Michael wanted to die like Elvis: with a BANG!"....
Post by: iamhere4mj on September 25, 2014, 11:04:01 PM
Here is an article from 1980 - if Michael wanted to die like Elvis, he certainly did a good job of it. I have highlighted in red the similarities.

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0%2C%2C20075695%2C00.html

January 28, 1980
Vol. 13

How Did Elvis Die?

By Jane Sanderson, Dennis L. Breo, Judy Kessler

The Ugly, Nagging Questions About Elvis' Death Still Cast a Long Shadow Over Graceland

From PEOPLE MagazineClick to enlarge

'Elvis was probably an addict,' his doctor admits—but did those prescriptions kill him?
 
Shortly after 2 p.m. August 16, 1977 Ginger Alden, awaking from a long day's sleep, walked into the bathroom adjoining the palatial master bedroom of Graceland and discovered that Elvis Presley was dead at 42. It was a seismic event and a national tragedy. To cope with it, to capitalize on it, in some cases as if to deny it, his former retinue and his most fanatic fans have pored over his effects hungrily for relics and talismans, turning his death into a macabre sideshow. Kidnappers have tried to steal his body from its grave. Fortunes have been made in retrospective schlock and dime-store Presleyana. Dozens of relatives and "friends" have published increasingly lurid accounts of his life. One old retainer, security chief Dick Grob, recently tried to sell a book outline retailing the theory that Elvis was dying of cancer; now, reportedly, Grob says he made it up. Someone, presumably a vengeful fan, fired a shot at Elvis' physician, Dr. George Nichopoulos, at a football game last year. One ghoul has tried to sell the vial in which Elvis' last drug prescription was packaged. The price: $1,000.

 Perhaps the most insistent consequence of Presley's death has been the growing debate over how he died. On one side is the medical examiner of Memphis, arguing that the cause was (as his death certificate states) "hypertensive cardiovascular disease associated with atherosclerotic heart disease." In short, heart attack. On the other side is an army of onetime associates, some of his fans and an ABC-TV news producer who attribute his death to dependence on a lethal combination of powerful prescription drugs.

 Two weeks ago a state agency accused Memphis pharmacist Irving Jack Kirsch of filling over 200 narcotics prescriptions for the singer despite the fact that he "knew or should have known" that Elvis was a drug abuser. Last week in Memphis a state panel convened to hear charges that his personal physician, Dr. Nichopoulos, had prescribed a phenomenal amount of drugs for Presley—more than 5,000 narcotics capsules and pills alone—in the seven months before he died. On the stand, Nichopoulos confirmed for the first time that Elvis had indeed been a drug addict. Fueled by new information and theories unearthed by journalistic and official investigations, the mystery of Elvis' death is today deeper than ever.

 The controversy began virtually at the moment of his death, when Memphis ambulance attendant Ulysses Jones arrived at Graceland and a Presley staff member greeted him at the door with the news: "We think he's OD'd." A notation to that effect was entered on Presley's admitting form at the Baptist Hospital emergency room. Toxicologists who studied Presley's tissues isolated at least eight different barbiturates and narcotics—including Valmid, Quaaludes, codeine, Placidyl and phenobarbitol. According to ABC, the doctors who performed the autopsy personally advised Vernon Presley that his son had died of a drug overdose. But then, three days later, Tennessee's Chief Medical Examiner Jerry Francisco signed and issued the official certificate, ascribing death only to coronary problems. "Elvis Presley died of heart disease, and prescription drugs found in his blood were not a contributing factor," Francisco later stated categorically to the American Medical News. "Had these drugs not been there, he still would have died."

Francisco has come under increasingly virulent attack in the two years since that finding. At least one of the 10 members of the autopsy team—and reportedly others—wanted to attribute Elvis' death to "polypharmacy," or a toxic combination of dangerous drugs. After a six-month investigation, Memphis-born ABC News producer Charles Thompson has also come to the conclusion that only drugs could have killed Presley. "He had in his system enough narcotics to kill almost anybody," says Thompson, who somehow wangled a copy of the toxicologist's report. "The quantity of drugs in the man was truly amazing," marvels former Pittsburgh Medical Examiner Cyril Wecht, who was called on by ABC to examine the lab reports. New York Deputy Chief Medical Examiner Michael Baden agreed: "A street addict could not possibly take that amount of drugs and survive."

 Actress Linda (Hee Haw) Thompson, who lived with Elvis for years after his 1973 divorce from wife Priscilla, says he had been abusing prescription drugs since the 1950s. Reports from his old entourage confirm the fact that he was indeed hooked. "I have never seen a human being in my life abuse drugs like Elvis," Presley's stepbrother David Stanley recalls. "I am not talking about street drugs—I am talking about prescribed drugs. Some of the doctors were out for the almighty buck." Adds former bodyguard Sonny West bitterly: "They called them 'prescribed' drugs, but he was addicted to them. He was taking narcotics shots—as far as I know in the muscles, not intravenously—of liquid demerol and stuff like that. He would use an excuse like a sprained ankle for taking Dilaudid; that's the strongest pain medication you can get—they usually prescribe it for terminal cancer patients."

 But West, too, was taking drugs, and so were Stanley and his two brothers and most of the other members of the "Memphis Mafia." In the reconstructions, Graceland seems to have been a veritable drug emporium. Marty Lacker, a buddy since high school and the best man at Elvis' wedding, had to leave the entourage after 20 years to detoxify in 1976. Others did the same, including Elvis' three stepbrothers. The cost to Presley's health was apparent—he reportedly fell into stupors with alarming frequency, was hospitalized for overdoses at least twice, and once in 1976 would have died if his father hadn't given him artificial respiration. "Dr. Nick" testified in his own hearing last week that he brought in two psychiatrists specializing in drug addiction. Elvis saw them twice, according to Nichopoulos, then dismissed them because the idea of treatment by a shrink was anathema.

 Presley's drug problem worried those closest to him much more than the public ever guessed. "His death," claims actress Thompson, "could have happened any number of times during the years I spent with him had I not been so acutely attuned to his habits and needs." She finally moved out of Graceland a few months before Elvis died, fed up, she says, with his drug use. "When a person knocks himself out each night with sleeping pills, he is just as apt to fall asleep face down on the floor as he is to be safely tucked away in bed when the medication hits. For that reason, Elvis required an unfathomable amount of attention." How could she leave him? "Elvis had a self-destructive vein," explains Linda, "and I couldn't watch him self-destruct."

 Vernon Presley was simultaneously so worried about his son's habits that he hired two former narcotics agents to trace the source of Elvis' supply. They named two doctors and a dentist, but by one account Elvis threatened to cut off his father's $75,000 yearly salary if Vernon took any action. The problem, says Vernon's ex-wife and Elvis' stepmother, Dee, was simply that "there wasn't a person in the world that would say no to him. If there was a woman or man strong enough, Elvis would be alive today."

 A few of Presley's associates still maintain that he had no drug problem. They point out that Dr. Nichopoulos ordered all medication administered to Elvis by a licensed nurse and argue that his dosage was controlled. "A lot of the shots given to Elvis by his nurse were just saline solution," insists last girlfriend Ginger Alden. "That was on Dr. Nick's orders." In her new book, Elvis: We Love You Tender, Presley's stepmother, Dee, offers a wishful compromise. "It may yet be proven that Elvis was extremely ill," she says, "and he had to take that amount of drugs to deaden the pain."

 The amount of drugs—and the reasons for them—were of paramount interest to the Tennessee Board of Medical Examiners as it began hearings this month. Dr. Nichopoulos was charged with dangerously overprescribing drugs not only for Elvis Presley but for 19 other patients as well (among them: his own teenage daughter, Chrissie, and rock legend Jerry Lee Lewis). Nichopoulos denies outright that he ever prescribed codeine or two of the three barbiturates found in Presley's tissues. As for the most startling charge, that he prescribed 12,000 pills for Elvis in the 20 months before his death, Nichopoulos argues that those drugs were in fact intended for Presley's entire road entourage, and were to be administered by a nurse under his direction. "Although I was not the only source of drugs available to Elvis Presley," Nichopoulos states in his defense brief, "I did undertake as best I could from the time I became his personal physician to control his intake of habit-forming substances, and to keep him in good health and physically able to perform for his millions of admirers."

A finding by the medical board that Nichopoulos was indeed a Dr. Feel-good will no doubt encourage the drug-death theory, but Medical Examiner Francisco believes that would be wrong. "Let's look at the entire record upon which I base my decision," was the way he put it to the medical journal. "The heart was enlarged to twice its normal size. There was severe coronary artery disease. His records showed a pattern of abnormal electrocardiogram readings. And he had a history of diabetes, depression, insomnia, overweight and blood pressure as high as 160/110. Then there was the circumstantial evidence," Francisco continued. "His body was found in a flexed position, with a pressure point on the side of his head. Had he died of drugs, the body would have gone into a coma and been found in a comfortable resting position." Finally, in defense of the heart-attack finding, Francisco notes the family's history (Elvis' mother also died of a coronary at 42), and points out that Presley rarely used alcohol, a common synergistic agent in OD deaths.

If the autopsy is ever made public—and ABC News is suing to obtain it—some significant new facts may be added to the dispute. But the deep and acrimonious dissension among doctors could also prove finally unresolvable—with Elvis' death wrapped in impenetrable layers of medicalese.

 That, according to Elvis' uncle, Vester Presley, would be just as well. "We're very sad over all this talk about Elvis—and it makes us feel very bad about the human race," mourns Vester, 65, who still works as the gatekeeper at Graceland, as he has for 22 years. Elvis' grandmother Minnie Mae, 90, and his aunt, Delta Mae Biggs, are the last inhabitants of the old mansion now, and they're trying to keep the place just as it was on that August day. Elvis' clothes still hang in his closet, the television over his bed stands ready for use, and the towels are in place in the bathroom where he died. The building has the air of a shrine. But these days the number of visitors to Graceland is way down—to about the same level as before Elvis died. That, too, is just as Vester thinks it should be. "Elvis was just a human being, just like everybody else," the old man shrugs as he goes about his duty, guarding the gate at the big, empty house. Slowly, perhaps, even the King's most obsessive followers will learn to accept that truth.


As I'm posting this, the song Can't Help Falling In Love With You is playing   :LolLolLolLol:

Love you Michael!
Title: Re: MJ'S Friend Says "Michael wanted to die like Elvis: with a BANG!"....
Post by: Adore on September 27, 2014, 05:11:34 AM
As 5 years got by since that day, I'm now disappointed and somehow angry with/that Michael wanted to die and be remembered as a drug addict (for the world, in general, not us, diehard fans). As if all the ridiculous and outrageous rumors/accusations surrounding him while being alive weren't enough ...

We all kept believing that the hoax is to clear his reputation, among other things, now I think that it didn't, as long as he's not coming back - which seems to be the case, sadly. And who's hurting more ? Us, fans, not the general public, who gives a sh*t about him and for whom he'll always be "Jacko" :(

If he had no plans to return, why didn't he die a "normal"death", instead of that stupid charade ?? Unless, he really died that day, a thought that often crosses my mind recently. We kept saying that there were so many things that don't add up, so it must be a hoax. But really, looking back with sadness, the one thing that does add all up and could explain all the craziness is that he really died a stupid and unnecessary death.
Title: Re: MJ'S Friend Says "Michael wanted to die like Elvis: with a BANG!"....
Post by: Echo on September 27, 2014, 07:54:20 AM
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As 5 years got by since that day, I'm now disappointed and somehow angry with/that Michael wanted to die and be remembered as a drug addict (for the world, in general, not us, diehard fans). As if all the ridiculous and outrageous rumors/accusations surrounding him while being alive weren't enough ...

We all kept believing that the hoax is to clear his reputation, among other things, now I think that it didn't, as long as he's not coming back - which seems to be the case, sadly. And who's hurting more ? Us, fans, not the general public, who gives a sh*t about him and for whom he'll always be "Jacko" :(

If he had no plans to return, why didn't he die a "normal"death", instead of that stupid charade ?? Unless, he really died that day, a thought that often crosses my mind recently. We kept saying that there were so many things that don't add up, so it must be a hoax. But really, looking back with sadness, the one thing that does add all up and could explain all the craziness is that he really died a stupid and unnecessary death.

Please focus on the positive. Do not be angry or disappointed. Do not empower the adversary. Do not foster negativity. Have a joyful heart and invest your energy in being thankful for all of the ways MJ enhanced your life and made you a better person.  MJ decorated our souls, and left us to "practice" valuable life lessons in humanity. What's done for now, is done. We do not know what the future holds. Much peace and love.
Title: Re: MJ'S Friend Says "Michael wanted to die like Elvis: with a BANG!"....
Post by: iamhere4mj on September 27, 2014, 10:37:57 AM
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As 5 years got by since that day, I'm now disappointed and somehow angry with/that Michael wanted to die and be remembered as a drug addict (for the world, in general, not us, diehard fans). As if all the ridiculous and outrageous rumors/accusations surrounding him while being alive weren't enough ...

We all kept believing that the hoax is to clear his reputation, among other things, now I think that it didn't, as long as he's not coming back - which seems to be the case, sadly. And who's hurting more ? Us, fans, not the general public, who gives a sh*t about him and for whom he'll always be "Jacko" :(

If he had no plans to return, why didn't he die a "normal"death", instead of that stupid charade ?? Unless, he really died that day, a thought that often crosses my mind recently. We kept saying that there were so many things that don't add up, so it must be a hoax. But really, looking back with sadness, the one thing that does add all up and could explain all the craziness is that he really died a stupid and unnecessary death.

Why didn't he die a "normal" death? That question is what has been the back bone of this investigation. One would think Michael Jackson, who did not like to be scrutinized by the media (played them as well) would not have passed away in the manner in which he did. For me it shows that Michael was still in control and knew the media would have a field day with him passing away the way he did.

The article that I posted was to only show just how much Elvis' "death" and Michaels "death" were the same. There are too many similarities for it to be a coincidence. Michael even supposedly told Lisa that he knew he was going to end up just like her father. Did he mean hoaxing his death? One can only assume.

And is Michael alive? You bet he is! He tells us he is alive in the very beginning of Hold My Hand and in the video version, you hear a child's voice say Come Back - I have always believed that to be Blankets voice.

Love you Michael!
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