Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => The Conrad Murray Investigation & Court Case => After June 25, 2009 => Court Case & Hearings; Discussion and Articles => Topic started by: blankie on September 27, 2011, 05:35:47 PM
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Listen here....is not Michael's voice.... /scream/ /pull hair/..and sorry if is already posted...... bangbang /judge/ bangbang
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XJFoH2MwLY&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XJFoH2MwLY&feature=player_embedded
moonwalk_/
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It might be Michael talking, but the recording has been distorted to sound that he was high at the time. >:(
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First of all why was this recorded? Secondly Michael would never talk this way.. I agree with scorpionchik, it is distorted.. Today I was watching the trial at work, well we had the tv on, and one of my employee has told me if this is a normal court? He said how come it looks so different from a real court.. I guess every country has it 's own court rooms.. ..
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Fabricated evidence ... fake Photo, fake record voice! /scream/ /scream/ /scream/
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Fabricated evidence ... fake Photo, fake record voice! /scream/ /scream/ /scream/
Remember the trial of 2005, .....false evidence 8)
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It doesnt sound like Michael but if it is then it is just for fake evidence but it sure made me sick to my stomach to hear it
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I have a curious thought.....when I listen to this recording through headphones, it's very clear the person hit the "s" sound harder......very clear. I have been around speech therapy for years......for someone who has any speech impediment/slurred speech etc, the "s" sound is the most difficult to produce......
Also at :44 you hear the distinct warning chirp sound (means low battery/time to replace it) of a home smoke alarm.
I don't buy it........
Blessings
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Come on!! This is all part of the HOAX. Ofcourse it will be PHENOMENAL when people realize that it was all a hoax. And they will say: I'VE NEVER SEEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN MY LIFE!!
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Why would Murray record this? Is this even legal? I doubt this is MJ, but since they're using in it in a court of law, lets say its true...Now, pretending this is true, and that MJ was so intoxicated, that he can barely talk, would Michael be able to give permission to be recorded? I dont know how the laws, for this matter, work in California.
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The tape is supposed to elicit a WTF reaction. The more whacked-out this trial gets, the better.
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But how are the reporters keeping a straight face? Razzle, dazzle them or are they in on it.
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No, it doesn't sound like Michael normally sounds, but listening closely I tend to hear a little of his personal inflection in some of the words. What I ask myself is what if it IS him?
If so, it is skin crawlingly chilling and supports Jermaines claim that Michael was being poisoned with a "neuro toxin" in the days leading up to his "death". I'm no doctor but I don't think frequent use of propofol would have this lasting effect on someone. I have worked in recovery though, and patients tend to be more high (happy) when coming out of anaesthesia than in a stupor, as portrayed in this recording. I think the neuro toxin poisoning theory has some merit and could possibly explain much of the uncharacteristic behaviour and symptoms witnesses claim Michael displayed in the weeks before June 25th.
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This first thing I thought when I heard it-- Is this really Michael?
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All of that REALLY looks like James Bond saga- especially with neiro-toxin shit.
Isnt Agent M was truly wanted more dead than alive - then 4 Who and by Whom??
May be AEG was notice back then, that something criminal is going on behind their simple concert preparations and was agreed to MJ Hoax-escape plan - instead being used by some dark power behind the curtaine as a killer weapon?
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Okay - so Anthony Jackson just tweeted about this video...
ATONCLASSIC (http://twitter.com/#%21/ATONCLASSIC) ANTHONY JACKSON I feel like I'm watching a soap opera. So many lies, innuendoes and I don't even believe that was his voice. 13 minutes ago
http://twitter.com/#!/ATONCLASSIC
:)
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There's no way an intoxicated person would say this complicated a "speech". If this is Michael, I really think he's just acting, what a comedian! Haven't we all been silly acting like we're drunk sometime? I posted on the other thread about how this reminded me of the voicemail of MJ to Deiter Weisner, which I wonder if it also wasn't a planted acting drugged message. If MJ has been planning this for 20 years it has to be, IMO.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qqymMaFMwU[/youtube]
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I agree with the false evidence statements. It could be MJ's voice but it has been altered, no doubt in my mind.
The sad part is that so many believe it to be true and it's being played all over the world. I'm sure there must be good cause to have this shown.
Michael - Oh this makes me wanna shout! What's this madness all about......
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Okay - so Anthony Jackson just tweeted about this video...
ATONCLASSIC (http://twitter.com/#%21/ATONCLASSIC) ANTHONY JACKSON I feel like I'm watching a soap opera. So many lies, innuendoes and I don't even believe that was his voice. 13 minutes ago
http://twitter.com/#!/ATONCLASSIC
:)
I thought this was quite interesting.
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Remember the other message that MJ left on a friends message box and it was kinds 'drugged up'...well it sounds completely different, in the other message you can hear what he says, here you can't....p.s how funny was it when they were talking about iphone and the apps 'like most phones have this app and on the iphone it saves the date...' :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: what are you here for, to sell us an iphone or conduct a trial...lol
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I don't understand... Murray recording on his IPhone? IPhone is a smart phone and actually a very upgraded one
TMZ spoke to a rep for Dr. Murray's lawyer who told us, "It is 100 percent fake. He doesn't even have a smart phone."
http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/12/dr-conrad-murray-impostor-exposed/
I listened to it and I don't know. It seems his voice, although extremelly changed, altered. I don't know what to say about it..
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I don't understand... Murray recording on his IPhone? IPhone is a smart phone and actually a very upgraded one
TMZ spoke to a rep for Dr. Murray's lawyer who told us, "It is 100 percent fake. He doesn't even have a smart phone."
http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/12/dr-conrad-murray-impostor-exposed/
I listened to it and I don't know. It seems his voice, although extremelly changed, altered. I don't know what to say about it..
Maybe they used an app that was a voice changer...lol
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To me it sounds like Joseph Jackson!
And they let the world believe that this completely out of the world drug addict on this tape is the same person as the man on stage in June 2009, come on!!
I was laughing when I heard this yesterday.
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I don't understand... Murray recording on his IPhone? IPhone is a smart phone and actually a very upgraded one
TMZ spoke to a rep for Dr. Murray's lawyer who told us, "It is 100 percent fake. He doesn't even have a smart phone."
http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/12/dr-conrad-murray-impostor-exposed/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/12/dr-conrad-murray-impostor-exposed/)
I listened to it and I don't know. It seems his voice, although extremelly changed, altered. I don't know what to say about it..
So sorry, I must be missing something, the prosecution presented this recording? If so I'm not quite following how evidence of this nature supports Michael or the claim Murray administered a fatal dose of propofol.
If the defense presented it, which would make more sense since it would suit their "Michael was a drug addict agenda", then they would have to know Murray had an iphone or who the hell else recorded it?
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To me it does sound like Michael in some way. WHAT IF he was just sleep-talking and dreaming?
My boyfriend does that a lot and I see some comparrisons in there.
*My boyfriend always mumbles a little bit with a lower voice, most of the time I can't understand him and he repeats his words.*
*Michael mumbles in this voice recording, with a lower voice, we can't understand what he's saying, and he repeats words like "When people leave this show, when people leave my show".."Go, go, .... go" .. "childrens hospital, michael jacksons childrens hospital"..
So to me it just sounds like he was just sleeping, and dreaming, not high on any drug.
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With all the technology I think it is a piece of cake to scientifically prove if it's Michael jackson's voice or not.
Why don't they just do this period crash/ ?!?
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With all the technology I think it is a piece of cake to scientifically prove if it's Michael jackson's voice or not.
Why don't they just do this period crash/ ?!?
Yes, and preferably before presenting it in a court of law. It's not as if they didn't have time. Surely it's validity must have been ascertained before it was allowed to be submitted?
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Good point Missyb007: So to me it just sounds like he was just sleeping, and dreaming, not high on any drug.
Wow, maybe it was all a dream (or nightmare). The whole world has dreamed since 2009. An illusion.
And Michael isn't dead at that picture, but he's sleeping and dreaming. He will wake up and say: OMG! OMG! This was a nightmare, a nightmare a THRILLERRRR!! And the whole world was part of that Thriller. We were all actors.
TII = T2 = Thriller2
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The prosecution submitted it. To me that makes no sense at all, if a conviction is what they are after.
Can't wait to see how are they going to prove Murray is responsible. It could have been recorded anywhere, anytime and IF it's Michael there could be numerous reasons- sleep talking one of them. This is a circus.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhdcAo8z07g[/youtube]
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oh COME ON /overreacting/
IF that is him, it's been altered. i'm probably the farthest thing from tech savvy, and even I can tell you that.
the only thing i have to compare his "deep voice" with is this clip. from his tour singing "keep it in the closet." start at 37 seconds
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jl2VKqHRJw[/youtube]
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Or maybe they will open his casket at Forrest Lawn and there he is...Like in the Thriller video afraid/. Happy Halloween! The trial is about 5 weeks, and Halloween is October 31th I quess??
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This doesn't sound at all like Michael. I listin to the voice and nothing like him plus they need to change that damn smoke detector, it beeps non stop till you put in a new battery, I couldn't sleep threw that!! /pull hair/ /scream/
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Well, I hope few hundreds of non-believers will be hitting their heads hard when the trial comes to an end... ('Oh, no! How could we believe in this BS?") bounce/
Anyway, the idea with opening the casket in search o a body on Halloween - is verrry interesting! /bravo/
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Hi all, just registered but was lurker for ages.
I think it can be real MJ - if it's a hoax, then why not?
Fake MJ - why not as well.. the tape was unexpected and weird
and not really needed, eh?
Shocking tape, raising questions suspicious// Anybody listened to
~what~ "MJ" said on that tape? I find said words very very suitable
for the hoax if we have one ;) Let's stay optimistic, it looked like weird circus so far,
[the defence, you guys listened to him? I was in shock, especially if this is real trial,
what a lame defence so far! Lies and total lack of ..er, readiness I'd say. Compared
to beloved Tom Mesereau on earlier trials for example]
Maybe this is how it should be.
It's a plan for sure. In optimistic hoax scenario it's a good one too.
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With all the technology I think it is a piece of cake to scientifically prove if it's Michael jackson's voice or not.
Why don't they just do this period crash/ ?!?
Yes, and preferably before presenting it in a court of law. It's not as if they didn't have time. Surely it's validity must have been ascertained before it was allowed to be submitted?
If the prosecution presented it we can safely assume they had it certified before by experts? I would really like to know that.
I wonder if someone in the court will doubt the validity of that tape.
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Dunno. Parts of it sound like Michael to me :?. The words sound Michael-ish, wanting to build a childrens hospital etc. However it sounds as if the person has already been given a sedative and sort of on his way out so to speak, not like someone high and off his face. Mind you, it sounds similar to someone that has had a stroke also :?
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Regardless if this is MJ or not, this recording seems like a perfect evidence for MJ addiction. Too perfect to be just a coincidence that this particular recording was actually recorded.
It is as perfect as 9/11 hijackers passport/visa miracle founds on the scene of the attacks.....
Planted evidence if you ask me...
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By now nobody in the court denied the validity of that tape.
The prosecution wants to prove with it that Murray knew the condition of Michael was very bad and didn't act accordingly.
But the recording also could prove Michael was a drug-addict so it is not Murray's fault, Michael would have died anyway.
@Forst Planted evidence for what?
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By now nobody in the court denied the validity of that tape.
The prosecution wants to prove with it that Murray knew the condition of Michael was very bad and didn't act accordingly.
But the recording also could prove Michael was a drug-addict so it is not Murray's fault, Michael would have died anyway.
@Forst Planted evidence for what?
Whatever is said during an opening statement is not the evidence and cannot be treated like that, therefore, I guess it is not the time to opine/analyze/challenge the evidence. This will be possible at the later stage, when the factual evidence is admitted and presented.
and for what the evidence? for the hoax Gina.
I am not still not sure what kind of strategy the hoax is going to assume as far as defense goes (for now it seems to me that the key is to portray MJ as an addict). For the court case to roll there need to be arguments on both sides.
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DayJaVu...here we go again......Remember the album "Michael" ?
Wasn't the authenticity of the voice questioned to create contraversy???
Secondly, I also think its "what" Michael is saying, rather than "how" he is saying it.
Any recording can be slowed down to resemble a drunk person....
Does this audio seem familiar to any other times in MJ's life???? I need to rely on the long term fans for help on this one...I am trying to find a program to do such a thing....Cheers
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Are there any comments of Jermaine or Latoya or anyone else on this voice-recording? (I'm not on Twitter). To me, it could be Michael, although it's very difficult to be sure about it. If there aren't any comments, this could mean this IS his voice.
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Are there any comments of Jermaine or Latoya or anyone else on this voice-recording? (I'm not on Twitter). To me, it could be Michael, although it's very difficult to be sure about it. If there aren't any comments, this could mean this IS his voice.
This is from Jermaine's twitter account:
"Today has been very distressing for all of us, and I'd like to thank you for your prayers at this horrible time. I would also like to remind some in the media that the voice recording of Michael does not show/prove he was "an addict" -- and this leap to agree with the defense is unfair and inaccurate. The prosecution said my brother "was under the influence of UNKNOWN agents" at the time of that recording by Murray. That some people, Jane Valez Mitchell HLN and Ted Rwlands CNN, make statements saying this shows my brother to be "a drug addict" is not what was said in court re that recording. Events are upsetting enough without correspondents adding their own interpretation (or back-dating events to 1993). No-one can rule out the prospect that Michael was groggy because of something administered to make him relax/sleep. That does noke him an addict. I would also add that Murray was by his side "observing" as well as recording so it can have nothing to do with drug depdency because Murras case is that he was unaware of any drug dependency. One more reason why "addict" is a leap to assumption in these circumstances. Some networks need to make this distinction clear and correct this imbalance. Bottom line: Michael did not kill Michael. "
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If that's Michael's voice then it has to be altered. But listen to it carefully, there is to much grovel..maybe not even a word..deep tones and the sound of the voice reminds me of the way Conrad Murray speaks. There is a bit of an accent almost at the end of each word. The way each word is announciated. You know how CM speaks with a bit of an accent and almost a questioning in his voice? Anyway, my 2 cents worth and good morning family...day 2! Love to All
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OMG! Yes it could be CM!! I thought it was Joseph Jackson but yeah it could be CM.
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I thinkk it is Michael's voice, but I agree with those who say he's acting
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We have to be phenomenal. When people leave this show, when people leave my show, I want them to say, “I’ve never seen anything like this in my life. Go. Go. I’ve never seen nothing like this. Go. It’s amazing. He’s the greatest entertainer in the world. I’m taking that money, a million children, children’s hospital, the biggest in the world, Michael Jackson’s Children’s Hospital.
Walgren says there is more on the recording, and promises the entire thing will be played later in the trial.
http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/27/transcript-of-prosecutions-michael-jackson-recording/ (http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/27/transcript-of-prosecutions-michael-jackson-recording/)
More to come....................... /judge/
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i felt all sick and funny wen i heard it /overreacting/
even "wen michael was under the influence" he still cared but my head it still like
WTF?? wot happened?
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@Stillbelieve Thank you! Jermaine doesn't deny that the voice is Michael's. If this is an act, I do not how to feel about it. There must be a reason for this, but to the most of the people, it's disturbing, heartwrenching and a confirmation that he was, indeed, an addict. Please Michael, come back soon....
edit: like others already mentioned, to me also he sounds like he is falling asleep, or is sleeping already....
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When I heard The Voice, I went afraid/ what's that? OMG!
The Voice discussions remind me of our discussions about TimesRemembered777 (A now "Defunct" member of this forum) and his voice recording! You may think that I am crossing the boundaries here but in HOAXLAND, the truth may be hidden in DETAILS, who know what the DEAL really is!
Reference TimesRemembered777: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php/topic,18973.msg329474.html#msg329474 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php/topic,18973.msg329474.html#msg329474)
Reference TimesRemembered777: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php/topic,19012.msg328714.html#msg328714 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php/topic,19012.msg328714.html#msg328714)
The Voice is also a "projection" of The Phantom of the Opera and you may remember that Michael wanted to play the Phantom in the Andrew LLoyd Webber Musical film the Phantom of the Opera. The setting for the Phantom of the Opera is the PARIS Opera House.
Andrew Lloyd Webber: 'Michael Jackson wanted to appear in Phantom of the Opera'
Michael Jackson was interested in starring in a film version of the Phantom stage musical, says Lord Lloyd Webber
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01212/phantom-460_1212775c.jpg)
Gerard Butler, right, played the lead part in Joel Schumacher's 2004 film adaptation
11:29PM BST 27 Jun 2009
The first person to call me to say Michael Jackson had died was my 17-year-old son. I had an awful feeling that one should almost have seen it coming. After the sadness came the disappointment that I was never going to see him again.
I first met Michael when he came to see Phantom of the Opera in New York when we'd just opened in 1988. He was clearly interested in the piece. He saw it several times and used to come backstage, often without the entourage that followed him around in later life.
The story got to him. I think he had a connection with the lonely, tortured musician. He found the idea of somebody working through music and having a girl as a muse very intriguing – and he loved that there was illusion in the show.
Michael became interested in playing The Phantom himself, in a movie version of the show. We talked about it a lot, but we'd only just opened and, at the time, I felt that it was too early for it to become a film. I felt his interest in Phantom was because he was interested in doing something theatrical himself.
He was a highly theatrical animal. I remember him saying to me that he'd seen Cats and how happy he was that dance was making a comeback in the theatre. He certainly talked about theatre a lot, and when he was last in London, he went to see Oliver!. Of course, he was a great showman himself, but he found the whole stagecraft of musicals extraordinary.
Reference: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/michael-jackson/5664341/Andrew-Lloyd-Webber-Michael-Jackson-wanted-to-appear-in-Phantom-of-the-Opera.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/michael-jackson/5664341/Andrew-Lloyd-Webber-Michael-Jackson-wanted-to-appear-in-Phantom-of-the-Opera.html)
Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Phantom_of_the_Opera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Phantom_of_the_Opera)
The reference to building a CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL in the court recording is also very important as it shows that the reason for This Is IT is really about LOVE and Making this World a better place.
With L.O.V.E
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Well, it can be him and it can be technically altered. What he says in that audio is important. Even when he was drugged, Michael still thinks to save the children. This is the message of that audio. Clearing Michael's name and showing the world the real Michael Jackson, the one who adores and cares for children. ;)
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I tinkerd abit with the voice recording..
first my tinkerd version with higher pitch and faster,,,,It sounds more like MJ
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2Igul81VyE[/youtube]
Then I have a reversed version (backmasked)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPhJWKecApQ [/youtube]
what I can make out is ....
" I can't believe you hanging me up.
I don't---hanging me
---- I'm right here and --- enigma
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I need to write----what
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Why I can't --real enigma------I say it's real enigma"
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@TheRunningGirl @Purelove
I'm ashamed to admit I was mostly listening to the voice instead of listening to what he was saying. That's the most important, still caring about others, no mather what state he was in himself. You MUST love that man! I hope others will start to feel this too and will think twice when they hear/see/read that BS about him.
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If this is Michael (I think it is) then there goes the 'he took hormons to keep his high-pitched voice' story.
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I typed on youtube, "guy talking in his sleep".
sounds very simillar, even though he has a british accent.
if the recording is legit, michael was simply sleeping.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlGGVGgNKvY
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I have spoken to my lawyer friend, she told me that any recordings are not admissive in court. Example, it can be tampered..
Also it occured to me last night, that Michael did it unpurpose to speak this way all part of his plan, so Murray can get acquited.. Remember this is a hoax. Murray cannot go to jail.. I do agree that Michael was coherent when he spoke about the children hospital. If he were drunk or drugged he wouldn't be able to think and say these beautiful words ..
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Oh this is tough, Tink thank you, your tinkering with a higher pitch voice.....it does sound more like Michael. But you guys are right, it's the beautiful message we need to listen to. Take care, Love to All
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I have a curious thought.....when I listen to this recording through headphones, it's very clear the person hit the "s" sound harder......very clear. I have been around speech therapy for years......for someone who has any speech impediment/slurred speech etc, the "s" sound is the most difficult to produce......
Also at :44 you hear the distinct warning chirp sound (means low battery/time to replace it) of a home smoke alarm.
I don't buy it........
Blessings
I picked up on that too. Odd sound to have in the middle of such a "sensitive" recording. One would think that all the safety equipment was checked/updated on a very regular basis to make certain of no problems/dangers occurring. Unless of course this recording wasn't made a Carolwood...or maybe it's just a BS "warning" for those paying close attention to details. Could be something...could be nothing...it's just something that made me go...hmmmmmmm?
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My friend and I were talking a few minutes ago about the recording and she told me that when her mother came out of it after her surgery she was all over the place when talking. Does anyone else think that it's weird that if MJ was coming out of being in a drugged up sleep that he was that coherent to make a full complete thought?
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Recorded by Murray himself...... FAAAAAAKE ;D Ha ha, I love this hoax more and more each day. :lol:
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My friend and I were talking a few minutes ago about the recording and she told me that when her mother came out of it after her surgery she was all over the place when talking. Does anyone else think that it's weird that if MJ was coming out of being in a drugged up sleep that he was that coherent to make a full complete thought?
I was operated and yes if you come out of anastisia I spoke the same way, as if I was drunk and drugged. So if Murray has taped MJ it was when he came out of Propofol... Like I said earlier recordings are not admissive in a court of law.. This is Canadian law, now I have no clue with American law.
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I have a curious thought.....when I listen to this recording through headphones, it's very clear the person hit the "s" sound harder......very clear. I have been around speech therapy for years......for someone who has any speech impediment/slurred speech etc, the "s" sound is the most difficult to produce......
Also at :44 you hear the distinct warning chirp sound (means low battery/time to replace it) of a home smoke alarm.
I don't buy it........
Blessings
I picked up on that too. Odd sound to have in the middle of such a "sensitive" recording. One would think that all the safety equipment was checked/updated on a very regular basis to make certain of no problems/dangers occurring. Unless of course this recording wasn't made a Carolwood...or maybe it's just a BS "warning" for those paying close attention to details. Could be something...could be nothing...it's just something that made me go...hmmmmmmm?
The sound of the smoke alarm going off reminds me of the Oprah show when that also happened....
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When I heard The Voice, I went afraid/ what's that? OMG!
The Voice discussions remind me of our discussions about TimesRemembered777 (A now "Defunct" member of this forum) and his voice recording!
Now I remember but I can't find that recording on my computer now.
Indeed now that you mention it - there are some similarities between the 2 recordings.
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My husband says it's Michael's voice.
It's terrible to hear :cry:
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It doesn't sound like Michael to me...
Michael's previous spokesperson (Raymone Bain) said publically yesterday that they should do forensics because it sounded nothing like him. Personally, I don't understand why they used it. It's from May. The judge said that they only wanted recent events (hence the reason the O2 announcement was taken out). It's kind of confusing. So some things from May can be used, and not others >> ???/
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I think it is Michael speaking. It is him. It breaks my heart to hear him speaking like this :( .
Our puppet master in control of everything was given drugs that he couldn't even speak crash/ ?
Oh Michael ...if you are alive please...please give us a good sign or something please. This is too heartbreaking you know.
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I still want to listen to the rest of it. I think there will be no doubt it is MJ speaking.
And listen to what he's saying, it is his way of thinking in this short recording...to be the greatest, to be nb. 1 as he always wanted.
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Sorry! I hasn't been here for long time, what a shame....The mailbox voice was scared me to death... To tell you the truth I don't know what to think yet.... /pull hair/ Just waiting for the end of this trial, and just praying for it will turns out something amazing.
At the moment I'm very confused, the only thing I'm trying so hard to not believing anything what I see... It's all a drama play... Michael if you did it, then I have to say Shakespear couldn't write it better then this. /bravo/ I love you!!!
Blessings
P.S.: it's good to be here again. You all always give me the hope back... Thank you for that.
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I still want to listen to the rest of it. I think there will be no doubt it is MJ speaking.
And listen to what he's saying, it is his way of thinking in this short recording...to be the greatest, to be nb. 1 as he always wanted.
Did you find those voice masseges what TimesRemembered777 gived us.... I have them... Do you what me to upload??
bearhug
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@TheRunningGirl @Purelove
I'm ashamed to admit I was mostly listening to the voice instead of listening to what he was saying. That's the most important, still caring about others, no mather what state he was in himself. You MUST love that man! I hope others will start to feel this too and will think twice when they hear/see/read that BS about him.
Do I said the same thing last night on chat.Even in that suposed "MOMENTS" ,Michael was thinking at CHILDREN and not HIMSELF :(.Can you all imagine how BIG Michael's heart is :-*?????
LOVE
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My husband says it's Michael's voice.
It's terrible to hear :cry:
Your hubby needs to be mad at you because you lose your hope so easily Gina. It can be very well Michael's voice and so what? I can make the same type of talking and I do not need to be drunk or drugged to do that. What does it prove? Nothing. Remember everything we have found till today. Michael gave us many SIGNS and he is still giving. No need to be sad or worried. bearhug
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Another sad fact about this world...media for an example. Of course, they do not comment on what Michael said about a children's hospital. Do they take notice of his loving nature? Noooo.
Instead they find glory that this recording is definite proof of an "addict".
/scream/
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This is too crazy. I don't believe any of this.
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.... Of course, they do not comment on what Michael said about a children's hospital. Do they take notice of his loving nature? ...
- that maddens me as well, much, media CAN'T be fixed, they just can not change themselves :evil:
..:cry:
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I have spoken to my lawyer friend, she told me that any recordings are not admissive in court. Example, it can be tampered..
Also it occured to me last night, that Michael did it unpurpose to speak this way all part of his plan, so Murray can get acquited.. Remember this is a hoax. Murray cannot go to jail.. I do agree that Michael was coherent when he spoke about the children hospital. If he were drunk or drugged he wouldn't be able to think and say these beautiful words ..
Remember the analysis of forensic musical of SONY when Breaking News appear for the first time, the Jackson said that the voice was not to Michael, and now that it has nothing to say of this recording? suspicious//
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My husband says it's Michael's voice.
It's terrible to hear :cry:
Your hubby needs to be mad at you because you lose your hope so easily Gina. It can be very well Michael's voice and so what? I can make the same type of talking and I do not need to be drunk or drugged to do that. What does it prove? Nothing. Remember everything we have found till today. Michael gave us many SIGNS and he is still giving. No need to be sad or worried. bearhug
AMEN... you got it girl...
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so i am watching HLN and a lady said that the voice could have been slowed down to sound like that so therefore they need to do a scientific examination of that recording.
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so i am watching HLN and a lady said that the voice could have been slowed down to sound like that so therefore they need to do a scientific examination of that recording.
But I doubt they will because.
*drum roll*
Its a hoax court!
IMO of course
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I still want to listen to the rest of it. I think there will be no doubt it is MJ speaking.
And listen to what he's saying, it is his way of thinking in this short recording...to be the greatest, to be nb. 1 as he always wanted.
Yes GINAFELICIA, he is saying this but the pressure he places on himself is unwarranted. I have this to say to him.
Oh Michael, you have no need to doubt. You already are the greatest entertainer the world has ever seen and you will forever remain the greatest, most famous, most brilliant entertainer the world has ever seen. You are the yardstick by which every entertainer who follows you will be measured, for now and for all time.
I think it is time for this
(http://www.youtube.com/embed/21hGoBqQFdA)www.youtube.com/embed/21hGoBqQFdA (http://www.youtube.com/embed/21hGoBqQFdA)
We will never let you part, for you are, and always will be, in our hearts.
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if this sound is mj.
i am sure that he is very sick :'( :'(
but i really think the voice was distorted
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No way it is him. It sounds like a comedian doing a prank, maybe Eddie Murphy.
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My husband says it's Michael's voice.
It's terrible to hear :cry:
Your hubby needs to be mad at you because you lose your hope so easily Gina. It can be very well Michael's voice and so what? I can make the same type of talking and I do not need to be drunk or drugged to do that. What does it prove? Nothing. Remember everything we have found till today. Michael gave us many SIGNS and he is still giving. No need to be sad or worried. bearhug
AMEN... you got it girl...
I am well aware he might be acting on an ILLusional front, maybe this recording was meant to have a similar effect like the wheelchair thing.
I was listening it in my headphones and I KNOW it was him speaking even if at first I didn't believe it is Michael.
That was a thriller of a recording Michael, you got me scared baby pale/ .
Scared to the point that I want to defend you no matter what. God please take notice we love this man to death and take care of him.
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look at it this way GinaFelicia- if we are wrong and MJ really has died, he would absolutely LOVE to see thousands of people believing he is alve. So if you refuse to believe Michael is still alive then atleast believe for the sake of Michael Jackson's memory. ;)
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When i first listened to the tape i was like ???/ , this doesn't sound like Michael, not at all. Even if he was high on sth, the voice would have stayed the same, i dont think it's his voice on the tape.
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I have a curious thought.....when I listen to this recording through headphones, it's very clear the person hit the "s" sound harder......very clear. I have been around speech therapy for years......for someone who has any speech impediment/slurred speech etc, the "s" sound is the most difficult to produce......
Also at :44 you hear the distinct warning chirp sound (means low battery/time to replace it) of a home smoke alarm.
I don't buy it........
Blessings
I picked up on that too. Odd sound to have in the middle of such a "sensitive" recording. One would think that all the safety equipment was checked/updated on a very regular basis to make certain of no problems/dangers occurring. Unless of course this recording wasn't made a Carolwood...or maybe it's just a BS "warning" for those paying close attention to details. Could be something...could be nothing...it's just something that made me go...hmmmmmmm?
The sound of the smoke alarm going off reminds me of the Oprah show when that also happened....
It also reminds me of the fire alarm going of at the hospital right at the moment Michael was brought in to the hospital. Remember there was a woman who told about it. That the whole hospital had to evacuate because the fire alarm went of. and no one was able to see Michael in there. WTF??
So IF it's just a simple warning to those who pay close attention to details. Then it's a good warning for us right ;)
Just thought of this:
It can also resemble the sound of a heart monitor, you know the "beep" sound. They said Michael wasn't dead at the hospital but had a pulse ( ah forgot the word something with heartbeat in pulse ). That's a clear sign he's still alive then to me:)
So this recording must have been in the hospital, or Mike really needs to change the batteries of his smoke alarm at home :)
(do i even make sense lol)
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This reminds me of the album 'Michael'...so much controversy, is it or isn't it MJ? did MJ alter his voice? now with this recording, is it or isn't it MJ? did MJ alter his voice?...I think it is MJ but altered.
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It may well be Michael using his real voice to play-act being high on a recording for his hoax court.
But the problem is... if you're this high (and this is very high), your speech and thought patterns aren't this complex and well thought out. This is "shop talk" (work talk)... he's talking about his goals and his vision for his entertainment production and what he wants to do with the proceeds. This would indicate to even the casual listener that his mind was fully lucent... even while he was so incapacitated that he could barely speak.
If this audible contradiction isn't proof that he is acting, I don't know what is.
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let's just wait for the rest of the recording
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It may well be Michael using his real voice to play-act being high on a recording for his hoax court.
But the problem is... if you're this high (and this is very high), your speech and thought patterns aren't this complex and well thought out. This is "shop talk" (work talk)... he's talking about his goals and his vision for his entertainment production and what he wants to do with the proceeds. This would indicate to even the casual listener that his mind was fully lucent... even while he was so incapacitated that he could barely speak.
If this audible contradiction isn't proof that he is acting, I don't know what is.
/bravo/
At first I wasn't completely convinced it was Michael but after listening to it a dozen times over, I have to think it is him. I agree with you that the context of the recording sounds like a man who knew exactly what he was saying even if he was under the influence of something.
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I wonder..... :( ....because Michal's voice and photo were released now after 2 years and just when the trial began..... ::) are not important issues for the process....only gossip....fake gossip...as always... ???/ .....Why??? ???/ I do not thinkthese are released by Michael..... /scream/ as always want to discredit him? /pull hair/ /white flag/ /white flag/ /white flag/ /judge/ bangbang
moonwalk_/
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Listening to it again I think it is so improper to show this in court....those are intimate thoughts of his, now the whole world heard it :cry: .
I feel so sorry for Michael pale/ .
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I sped it up a little and changed the pitch, and I'm almost certain it's him. I will see if I can put it up on YouTube.
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Here ya go! I only sped it up slightly and changed the pitch a little, like you can hear when the DA speaks.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXt7zvaLW-M[/youtube]
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As I said before, it is Michael but the the actual recording was distorted. That's what I think.
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thanks souza, i can see how it could have been slowed down and the pitch and tone distorted.
the family was said to have been looking around confused and disturbed. So was I.
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so i am watching HLN and a lady said that the voice could have been slowed down to sound like that so therefore they need to do a scientific examination of that recording.
But I doubt they will because.
*drum roll*
Its a hoax court!
IMO of course
That was Raymone-and she keeps emphasizing it. Hm..does Raymone once again act like a spokesperson for someone? :)
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It may well be Michael using his real voice to play-act being high on a recording for his hoax court.
But the problem is... if you're this high (and this is very high), your speech and thought patterns aren't this complex and well thought out. This is "shop talk" (work talk)... he's talking about his goals and his vision for his entertainment production and what he wants to do with the proceeds. This would indicate to even the casual listener that his mind was fully lucent... even while he was so incapacitated that he could barely speak.
If this audible contradiction isn't proof that he is acting, I don't know what is.
Never thought about the thought process part. Thank you for pointing this out!
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It may well be Michael using his real voice to play-act being high on a recording for his hoax court.
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That's what I think. And I believe the important part of this recording is the "Michael Jackson Children's Hospital" - even "high", he illustrates what's really important.
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Hmmm I honestly think it could be him talking but his voice is just altered...I think i really kinda thought about it the second time I listened.
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Thank you Souza for the effort. To me it is clear it is MJ's voice, now even more. That sweet/smooth component of his voice is there. It can not be missed. I am very moved/emotional about this recoding.
Untill it's all over I'll try to make myself comfortable by believing this recording is the second "wheelchair" hoax.
If he had the nerve to sit in that wheelchair and play so damn sick , what could have prevented him from recording this?
Yet there is something in his voice that indicates genuine emotion about what he's saying. He's saying it from his heart and soul. He is genuine/true/real.
But I really don't know.
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the family was said to have been looking around confused and disturbed. So was I.
Betcha Michael didn't tell them about it. Little surprise for the Fam :lol:
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Halperin is claiming that Murray has over 160 such recordings of MJ and plans to release them through the trial.
ew York Times best selling author, Ian Halperin, revealed exclusively on the inaugural broadcast of Radar Live, the real reason why Dr. Conrad Murray audiotaped his former patient, Michael Jackson. One of the stunning recordings was played yesterday by Deputy District Attorney David Walgren on the first day of testimony of Murray’s involuntary manslaughter trial.
Jackson sounds heavily under the influence at the time of the recording on May 10, 2009 at around 9 a.m.,
"I want them to.. I've never seen nothing like this in my life. He's the greatest entertainer of all time. I'm taking that money, a million children, children's hospital. Biggest in the world. Michael Jackson's Children's Hospital," Jackson can be heard slurring.
PHOTOS: Michael Jackson Through The Years
Halperin, author of Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson, told RadarOnline.com: "He (Dr. Conrad Murray) has over 160 recordings of Michael Jackson, and this is just the tip of the iceberg, so get ready....He wasn't planning on using this in court. What he was planning in case Jackson turfed him, was that he would have all these recordings, get some sort of book deal, or release an album of it, and maybe top Thriller in sales. He is only motivated by one word and that is cash....there are no other motives...the only reason was he wanted to cover his tracks."
AEG lawyer, Kathie Jorrie who was handling Dr. Murray's contract for the This Is It tour, said on the witness stand Wednesday that under terms of the agreement, Michael Jackson could fire Dr. Murray at any time, without notice.
PHOTOS: Stage Shots of Michael Jackson Performing
"Remember, he (Dr. Murray) wanted five million a year, and everybody got red flags..in case he lost his job, he was ready to release this publicly to get a book deal...and turn it into dollars," Halperin says.
Has to be a joke. Make an album out of them and top thriller. No doubt about it...this whole production will top Thriller
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To me the way of talking and the infections (sp??) in the voice are much like Joe Jackson the father.
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Here ya go! I only sped it up slightly and changed the pitch a little, like you can hear when the DA speaks.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXt7zvaLW-M[/youtube]
Thank you so much Souza. Yes, now it is so obvious that this is Michael.
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Why would Michael confess his plans/thoughts about the concerts to Murray?
Why not to his family first?
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He sounds like he is 99 years old. Maybe that's part of the movie? Michael as an old man looking back at his life or something? I don't understand what he is talking about :lol: first about his concerts then about a children's hospital?? :?
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Someone this stoned would not be speak coherently. Each sentence is perfectly formed. It only appears horrible due to the low toned, slow talking slur. Sounds doctored. This tape doesn't even sound like MJ when he speaks in a lower voice.
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The way he says "world" sounds like Joseph Jackson to me. What do you think?
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Why would Michael confess his plans/thoughts about the concerts to Murray?
Why not to his family first?
OMG ,OMG it's just "HIT ME BABY ONE MORE TIME" ,lol lolol/ afraid/.How come I missed that :?:,the answers are in FRONT of our own eyes :lol: .Thank you Gina and thank you Front for opening my eyes :)!!!! DEtAiLS is the ANSWER,and in this time is APPLE IPhone-TEHNOLOGY OMG! geek/!!!!!!!!!I'm the only one to see what BRAND Murray used to record Michael???????
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DEtAiLS…………….
take a seat in the "FRONT" row & focus on "BACKground"
The answers for this HOAX are in the PAST-BACK(BACK to FUTURE),I can't believe this,but is true 8-).Remember all Michael's PLANS that we thought were vanished??????
Michael Jackson and Saudi Prince create magic Kingdom
March 20, 1996
Michael Jackson and Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Al Saud said Tuesday they're forming a venture called Kingdom Entertainment to develop a variety of entertainment activities.
Financial details weren't released 8-) geek/.
The name comes from a worldwide string of Kingdom entities through which Prince Alwaleed has invested in banks, theme parks and other ventures 8-).
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Well I'm sure Michael did what he did in the past WITH A REASON.There is no way he did things RANDOMLY 8-)!!!!!! Everything has a MEANING and a PURPOSE.
Here is a video with the prince talking about APPLE:
Prince AlWaleed on his Apple investment
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWx-P7ZV4IQ[/youtube]
In the END I have a surprise for THE ONES who LOVES HOAX VIDEOS,enjoy!!!!I LOVE you all!!!
Michael Jackson Death Hoax - cellphone clues and other illusions
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EJ2UaCYG2g&feature=player_embedded
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Entire recording:
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Is there a link? I can't find it on YouTube.
Edit: Never mind... of course TMZ has it.
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HLN: Don Berrigan, Former Publicist for Jackson 5 says recording sounds like MJ 'slowed down'.
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LOL you see? even MJ himself said "I'm asleep" so my thought on he's just talkin in his sleep wasn't that strange or far-fetched ;)
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Please remember the post I made hereand that TS redirected on april 15th 2010. I thought from the start that one of the main reasons was to collect all the money he could to donate the most important sum in the world to help sick children as much as he could. So now we know a 100% that TS was right and that I was right too!
http://www.youtube.com/user/julia142?feature=mhee
TIAI redirect me If I am Right! --------------------- http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8728
Hoooooooraaaaaayyyyyy!!!!! Michael you are definitely THE MAN with the MOST biggest HEART on this PLANET!!!!!!!! Sounds like a Record Guiness winner again!
L.O.V.E. you my MJ family! Remember we're all in this together and one day we'll see what is at the end of the rainbow, or maybe at the beginning of the rainbow!
Julie xxx
http://www.youtube.com/user/julia142?feature=mhee
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Please remember the post I made hereand that TS redirected on april 15th 2010. I thought from the start that one of the main reasons was to collect all the money he could to donate the most important sum in the world to help sick children as much as he could. So now we know a 100% that TS was right and that I was right too!
http://www.youtube.com/user/julia142?feature=mhee (http://www.youtube.com/user/julia142?feature=mhee)
TIAI redirect me If I am Right! --------------------- http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8728 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8728)
Hoooooooraaaaaayyyyyy!!!!! Michael you are definitely THE MAN with the MOST biggest HEART on this PLANET!!!!!!!! Sounds like a Record Guiness winner again!
L.O.V.E. you my MJ family! Remember we're all in this together and one day we'll see what is at the end of the rainbow, or maybe at the beginning of the rainbow!
Julie xxx
http://www.youtube.com/user/julia142?feature=mhee (http://www.youtube.com/user/julia142?feature=mhee)
Yep Julia I remember TS doing a redirect to your great post last year!
What a great link now to this recording of MJ talking about his wish to build the biggest children's hospital in the world. I really, really hope it happens.....that would be so amazing!!!!
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Please remember the post I made hereand that TS redirected on april 15th 2010. I thought from the start that one of the main reasons was to collect all the money he could to donate the most important sum in the world to help sick children as much as he could. So now we know a 100% that TS was right and that I was right too!
http://www.youtube.com/user/julia142?feature=mhee (http://www.youtube.com/user/julia142?feature=mhee)
TIAI redirect me If I am Right! --------------------- http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8728 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/../../phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8728)
Hoooooooraaaaaayyyyyy!!!!! Michael you are definitely THE MAN with the MOST biggest HEART on this PLANET!!!!!!!! Sounds like a Record Guiness winner again!
L.O.V.E. you my MJ family! Remember we're all in this together and one day we'll see what is at the end of the rainbow, or maybe at the beginning of the rainbow!
Julie xxx
http://www.youtube.com/user/julia142?feature=mhee (http://www.youtube.com/user/julia142?feature=mhee)
Thank you Julia for bringing this to our attention again!! I have no doubt whatsoever that any money made from Michael hoaxing his death, will go to the "Lost Children" of the world! Michael has made it perfectly clear that "It's all for LOVE", for the children and to "Heal the World"!
My heart is filled with so much Love, respect and admiration, knowing that our world has been blessed with such a gift...a gift named Michael Jackson!
I can't wait for the whole world to wake up to the TRUTH of who the man behind the mask really is, and always has been...A gift from God...Pure... Selfless... LOVE!
Blessings Love and Light!
I LOVE you all so very much!
Michael, my Brother...I LOVE YOU!..."Heart" To "Heart" and "Mind" To "Mind" Always and Forever! "Thank You"
bearhug
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Julia, I think you hit the nail on the head here. I remember reading your post way back then and thought wow!! Brilliant post about a brilliant kind man. NOW it is even becoming more and more clear! Good job!! Take care, Love to All