Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => Hoax Videos => Topic started by: paula-c on August 26, 2011, 09:03:57 PM
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Ambulance vid (hollywood tv) slow version
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2XhuHOALWE&feature=digest_fri[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2XhuHOALWE&feature=digest_fri
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This is awesome paula-c.......for me it's where my suspicions started. I have watched and watched and watched this video. I think when Michael comes back he will be able to say...it was all there in plain sight.....we just haven't put it together yet. I feel there is more to the ambulance, the 911 call, the memorial, the funeral...the basics as I call them. I feel like things are right in front of our eyes, if we could only see them.
One thing I have been wrestling with.......have I/we done a good job so far? Have we uncovered most of the clues, or have we left a huge hunk out? Michael has gone to the ultimate extreme for this hoax. I would be very sad to think he'd be disappointed. What do you guys think?
Blessings always
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Thank you Paula for posting this video, I usually saw this video over and over, but now in slow motion i saw something strange. 2:58 THE AMBULANCE LEAVES. THEN ON 4 :56 THERE IS ANOTHER AMBULANCE WHO WAS IN THE GATES IN AND NEVER GOT OUT. DID IT COME OUT FROM THE OTHER EXIT. AND IS THAT THE AMBULANCE THE REAL MICHAEL WAS IN? I DO NOT KNOW if you saw that or is it me who sees things. Blessings.
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I just found this unseen ambulance footage last night on Youtube. I was not sure where I should post the footage. I have only seen the above footage that you have posted. Maybe, this footage will add something new. The angle is very interesting to me because I have never seen it before. I hope that it will be helpful. Thank you very much for posting the HollywoodTV footage. Blessings to all! :)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx8KrGIQ5mg&feature=related[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dNtJxUYZyM&feature=related[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDZyiUaQbOs&feature=related][/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvr08oqpK44&playnext=1&list=PL9E548B897B53FD90[/youtube]
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THEN ON 4 :56 THERE IS ANOTHER AMBULANCE WHO WAS IN THE GATES IN AND NEVER GOT OUT. DID IT COME OUT FROM THE OTHER EXIT. AND IS THAT THE AMBULANCE THE REAL MICHAEL WAS IN? I DO NOT KNOW if you saw that or is it me who sees things. Blessings.
on 4:56 another ambulance?? where do u c it?? i'm watching and watching again the video,but i can't c it!! have u noticed the number 17 on the "star line" car?? we have 71 and 17.... mirror?? coincidence??
*LUNA*
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(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g433/reveron/Ambulance.jpg)
At 3.24 you can see there is an ambulance inside the gates.
Is this video shot in one continuous shot, or is there a break after the ambulance leaves? It looks really wobbly then suddenly we see the gates again with the ambulance. Is this after the ambulance leaves or is this just a replay of earlier?
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The 2 ambulances wear n°71 : The one who goes out of the property + that parked in the street ??? It cannot be the same !!! :roll:
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THEN ON 4 :56 THERE IS ANOTHER AMBULANCE WHO WAS IN THE GATES IN AND NEVER GOT OUT. DID IT COME OUT FROM THE OTHER EXIT. AND IS THAT THE AMBULANCE THE REAL MICHAEL WAS IN? I DO NOT KNOW if you saw that or is it me who sees things. Blessings.
on 4:56 another ambulance?? where do u c it?? i'm watching and watching again the video,but i can't c it!! have u noticed the number 17 on the "star line" car?? we have 71 and 17.... mirror?? coincidence??
*LUNA*
Right after the ambulance left, look inside the house you will see another ambulance. The ambulance goes in not out.. check it very carefully.. I put the time you need to check, Start from the beginning a watch carefully.. Unless I see things lol.
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(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g433/reveron/Ambulance.jpg)
At 3.24 you can see there is an ambulance inside the gates.
Is this video shot in one continuous shot, or is there a break after the ambulance leaves? It looks really wobbly then suddenly we see the gates again with the ambulance. Is this after the ambulance leaves or is this just a replay of earlier?
Reveron1958 so you do see it right? I am not seeing things. I don't think they stopped the video and is the same ambulance 71 I think it is another ambulance.. This is a decoy.. Wow.. Michael is a real genius. In other posts we found out that Michael house had several exits.. I think they all focused on 71 there must have been really someone, not Michael, and the other ambulance are Michael's actors friends who took him to the airport and no one would have suspected anything.
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can you see the number of the other ambulance :?:
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When I read the title of this thread, I immediately thought, "Oh so you mean the original footage."
(Because it was so slow already.)
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The whole second ambulance thing has me stumped.....I don't understand. In the original video.....I have always seen two different views/from two different cameras. I just thought Hollywood TV should have played them in a different order. We should have seen the starline/firetruck video section first...it's the arrival of the ambulance. The backing-out ambulance should have been shown second...it's the ambulance leaving. I figured these are supposed to be two different "fan-made" videos...they just put them together that way. The starline van section clearly shows the fireman taking the cones down to place them.....in the backing-out section the cones are placed on the ground.
I guess I must just be dense or something....I don't see a second ambulance. Can you circle it? Sorry for my confusion...it's always bugged me that I haven't understood this part. Like I said before, the ambulance video was what made me really start to question it all.....so I really want to see this clearly. Thanks in advance for any help.......
Blessings
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can you see the number of the other ambulance :?:
No you cannot see it . The other ambulance is in the court yard.. you can see an ambulance.
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The whole second ambulance thing has me stumped.....I don't understand. In the original video.....I have always seen two different views/from two different cameras. I just thought Hollywood TV should have played them in a different order. We should have seen the starline/firetruck video section first...it's the arrival of the ambulance. The backing-out ambulance should have been shown second...it's the ambulance leaving. I figured these are supposed to be two different "fan-made" videos...they just put them together that way. The starline van section clearly shows the fireman taking the cones down to place them.....in the backing-out section the cones are placed on the ground.
I guess I must just be dense or something....I don't see a second ambulance. Can you circle it? Sorry for my confusion...it's always bugged me that I haven't understood this part. Like I said before, the ambulance video was what made me really start to question it all.....so I really want to see this clearly. Thanks in advance for any help.......
Blessings
The other videos we saw was not in slow motion, so we couldn't see it. Too quick for our eyes. Now this video is the same as the original one, the only difference it is very slow and that's how I caught the other ambulance.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xazsOkXOJVw
ok check this one without slow motion, at 1:08 stop it and you see the ambulance too. You can see they are closing the gate with the ambulance inside. I don't think they will show the ambulance leaving and then they show the begining. No.. this is another ambulance, for sure.
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The whole second ambulance thing has me stumped.....I don't understand. In the original video.....I have always seen two different views/from two different cameras. I just thought Hollywood TV should have played them in a different order. We should have seen the starline/firetruck video section first...it's the arrival of the ambulance. The backing-out ambulance should have been shown second...it's the ambulance leaving. I figured these are supposed to be two different "fan-made" videos...they just put them together that way. The starline van section clearly shows the fireman taking the cones down to place them.....in the backing-out section the cones are placed on the ground.
I guess I must just be dense or something....I don't see a second ambulance. Can you circle it? Sorry for my confusion...it's always bugged me that I haven't understood this part. Like I said before, the ambulance video was what made me really start to question it all.....so I really want to see this clearly. Thanks in advance for any help.......
Blessings
I think you are right, the footage is not shown in the right sequence, what is strange anyway. At the begining you can see that there is traffic pole in the scene.
(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/Still1-2.jpg)
Then, after the footage get sort of mingled/blurry, that seem to the actual beginning of the timeline, you can see the ambulance still behind the gate and no traffic pole yet in the scene.
(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/still3-1.jpg)
Here, the guy takes the pole.
(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/Still4-1.jpg)
So, the question is - why the they put the video in the wrong sequence or maybe they have been given the video - what I think is one of the options we considered :D
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ForstAMoon thank you for posting these pictures, one question I have, how come they would give the video in the wrong sequence? It does not make sense. The picture you posted one has a cone, right after the ambulance left the cone was gone, then we see the ambulance inside the gates. The ironic thing is that I saw this video over and over, even when TS has posted it, and still I haven't seen anyother ambulance until now with this slow footage. Something is really odd.. TS if you are reading this thread can you please comment about this second ambulance? Why would the give a video in the wrong sequence if it is the case? Thank you.
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@ ForstAMoon.....thank you for those pictures...they really help! I am standing by my very first intuition and very early post.....something with the shadows is off. It is the thing that bugs me the most. What time did the ambulance arrive.......per the emergency medical report: 12:26
1) look at the cone placement in the first picture ForestAMoon posted......use it as a marker. Keep in mind this is later....about a half hour later.
2) now look at the second picture posted....the arrival...no cone, but you can tell where it's going to be placed. The shadow is slightly different. Per the report they leave 13:07 (1:07)
Shadows are shortest at noon...it's when the sun is at the highest point in the sky. Why is the shadow longer at the arrival, than when the ambulance leaves? Closer you are to noon the shorter it should be. Either the timing is off, or these two videos are of different days completely....because the shadows do not match up. It seems like that cone is put there to mark it specially. In the picture without a cone, a person is there. Other parts/shadows don't work with them either...but the cone is easiest to see. Thanks again ForestAMoon...much appreciated!
Blessings to all...
PS> one more thing....who owns Hollywood TV exactly...much of what we see is from them...I have always wondered about them.....so hollywood, nothing real!
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I don`t know why the order is changed , it`s like the end is the begining !
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It's a cutting technique to make a movie more interesting.
They cut pieces and change the order to make the spectator curious by additional comments.
The comments / audio track will give the arc of events and bind together the images that are not belonging to each other in the presented sequences.
Usually, news are made up like this.
The images don't fit the sound and that makes the spectator follow more closely and with higher attention the spectacle and what is being said in order "to get it right" - with the result that the fascination and "belief factor" of the "unbelievable" (presented wrong sequence) are higher, the split from real life is deeper and the memorizing effect of the subliminal message is higher. (Not to mention the "aahs" of "am I stupid - it happened this (!) way and the dude in TV explained it all so well to me, woah what a racer this must be...")
Novelists do use the same technique in jumping from narrator to another scene, back and forth in time and between situations / chapters of the characters' lives. It makes the whole book more interesting and is giving plenty of activities in parallel thus developping a meadow of events (seemingly) happening at the same moment.
One presents the dead first and from there-on develops the story how the key character died from different perspectives in split images afterwards. Basically, a death as subject of a novel doesn't leave much other choice than doing it this way round since death occurs always "untimely" and all of a sudden.
News, however, could tell a story as it happens and wouldn't need any drama effect if they were objective, investigative journalistic news only. These days, information needs drama, show, peeps and poops, aahs and oohs and that's why stories, images and videos are being cut, split, twisted and falsified.
Michael's videos are very nicely showing what is commonly being practiced as a "pre-defined dramatic chaos" to influence and direct people's minds.
Who loves art, might get reminded of van Gogh's portraits that are split images as well - showing two worlds in one painting.
http://www.vangogh.co.za/Subscreens/Mainpo.htm (http://www.vangogh.co.za/Subscreens/Mainpo.htm)
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Thanks for the Van Gogh link Grace. Those paintings are really neat to look at!
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The ambulance was slow already, why need to slow down the video? lolol/ JK. Thank you for the video paula. There's no second ambo. They did it in the editing process. They just changed the order of the shooting. They showed how the ambulance went out of the gates and then returned back to the beginning of the shooting and started to show from where the starline arrives.
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So why did they do this, to confuse us more? That is very stupid. I think all this hoax is getting out of hand. I don't know anything about editing, etc.. a person who sees this video would think there was 2 ambulances. I guess this topic is closed.. lolol/
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OMG, I always had a feeling that something was wrong with this video!
This is because they probably filmed it "that day and the other day..." ;D
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So strange.... ::) after two years..... ???/
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1. Why does it write "fire department" on the ambulance? Is this normal for ambulances in your country?
2. The second car with "17" is a fire engine - was there a fire on that day?
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OMG, I always had a feeling that something was wrong with this video!
This is because they probably filmed it "that day and the other day..." ;D
I admit I too, always thought there was another mysterious ambulance inside the yard that I thought was for hoax purposes. I totally think this was deliberately meant to trip us up especially together with the Ben's above slip-up. I agree it adds confusion which MJ wants.
Does it seem to anybody like the ambulance misses the wall by inches--inexperienced driver? errrr