Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

General Michael Jackson Forum => Random MJ Talk => Topic started by: GreenManMakeAChange on July 12, 2011, 03:04:15 AM

Title: I'm back and still in pain though also improved
Post by: GreenManMakeAChange on July 12, 2011, 03:04:15 AM
I haven't been here in months, I definitely went through more ups and downs in my life since.  I even stopped believing in the hoax cause of some brainwashing from someone, but I just have an open mind about whatever happens, and found myself joking about the hoax a few times recently to my mom when she brought him up, so I decided to come back here just to read.
Title: Re: I'm back and still in pain though also improved
Post by: Tink.I.Am on July 12, 2011, 03:16:43 AM
welcome back!!
Title: Re: I'm back and still in pain though also improved
Post by: scorpionchik on July 12, 2011, 03:17:45 AM
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Title: Re: I'm back and still in pain though also improved
Post by: MJonmind on July 12, 2011, 04:04:44 AM
Quote from: "GreenManMakeAChange"
I haven't been here in months, I definitely went through more ups and downs in my life since.  I even stopped believing in the hoax cause of some brainwashing from someone, but I just have an open mind about whatever happens, and found myself joking about the hoax a few times recently to my mom when she brought him up, so I decided to come back here just to read.
penguin/ Glad you came back! Sad you're in pain though. :(

If you don't mind my asking what was the biggest thing that made you think he was dead, and what was the thing that made you reconsider?
Title: Re: I'm back and still in pain though also improved
Post by: GreenManMakeAChange on July 12, 2011, 05:10:36 AM
I would snicker at possible hoax suggestions in 2009/10, but when I heard the airport/hospital slip up from Jermaine in the airport, that was my big hope and then I found this site and would even get signs, though I always had those.  I didn't believe it completely, I was at 50-50 and still am with an open mind.  I stopped coming on cause I felt I was being delusional and it was not good for my emotional health, and someone I know claimed they knew someone at UCLA that confirmed it was real so I decided to just not come on here for awhile, but I don't believe that story anymore and if I wanted, I could make up shit too out of boredom
Title: Re: I'm back and still in pain though also improved
Post by: voiceforthesilent on July 12, 2011, 09:40:30 AM
Welcome back GMMAC - I hope you are feeling better very soon. You'll be in my prayers.

Everywhere we turn there are conflicting stories - what to believe, right? Just follow your heart and you'll find peace.

Blessings to you.
Title: Re: I'm back and still in pain though also improved
Post by: wishingstar on July 12, 2011, 10:22:03 AM
Welcome back GreenMan!!!
I remember your posts from before.  You have a great way of writing.
Looking forward to reading more..........

Blessings Always
Title: Re: I'm back and still in pain though also improved
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on July 12, 2011, 01:30:25 PM
Welcome back GreenManMakeAChange. I understand where you are coming from. As soon as we find positive clues, there is something else that sets us back again. We have to keep faith, and be positive, these two things are the hardest thing to do in life, because negativity is the fastest solution and you do not need to work on the negative side. I hope you will feel better, and believe the little voice inside of you, listen to what it tells you, that little voice will guide you to the truth. Blessings.
Title: Re: I'm back and still in pain though also improved
Post by: GreenManMakeAChange on July 12, 2011, 06:25:57 PM
Thanks for the welcomes.

Thanks, you like my writing? Normally I'm just ranting and a little lazy with my grammar to care, but if you enjoyed it, that's good to hear :)

I was too numb to admit he was dead and many times he didn't feel like it though the minute I would make myself admit it, I would cry or start insulting cause of being angry he left us though it's not his fault and beating myself up for my selfish behaviour.  I can't even say died or killed and I can't admit who Conrad is.  Even the first time I heard him speak, I thought I would scream and cry immediately, I just started laughing with tears like I was watching Saturday Night Live and it was a joke, and this was way before discoveirng any hoax discussions happening.  It's like a part of me was not satisfied with what I was hearing though it was in front of me, though I think it could have also been shock or trauma.  Heck, I think sometimes maybe this board is a result of our post traumatic stress and culture shock of losing him, but I'm just going to hang around here and see what happens.  And I do enjoy talking to you too and think we see things others can't.
Title: Re: I'm back and still in pain though also improved
Post by: hesouttamylife on July 12, 2011, 07:42:20 PM
Welcome back.
Title: Re: I'm back and still in pain though also improved
Post by: 2good2btrue on July 12, 2011, 08:05:02 PM
Firstly welcome back..and I know what you're might be feeling.  I was never a "fan" of MJ.  I knew his music, danced to his music at nightclubs etc..but never was interested in "Him" other than what I read in the tabloids.

At the moment, I am studying  the stages of grief...the first stage DENIAL....now, for a long time I thought maybe these fans are stuck on the first stage and thats why they are here...

But, take into account, that I am not a fan.  What brought me here????  I am not grieving.

It was the weiderness and inconsistencies surrounding the death, that led me here.  In other words, I am not in denial.

I am someone who has thought something else is going on here.  I believe he is still alive, but the world needs to think he is dead.  Thats why so many things point to him being dead...otherwise, the whole point of this hoax would have been for nothing....Keep the faith.  Regardless of what you believe, and what happens, please know that you are not alone..God bless
Title: Re: I'm back and still in pain though also improved
Post by: 2good2btrue on July 12, 2011, 08:13:34 PM
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Title: Re: I'm back and still in pain though also improved
Post by: GreenManMakeAChange on July 12, 2011, 08:31:53 PM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
Firstly welcome back..and I know what you're might be feeling.  I was never a "fan" of MJ.  I knew his music, danced to his music at nightclubs etc..but never was interested in "Him" other than what I read in the tabloids.

At the moment, I am studying  the stages of grief...the first stage DENIAL....now, for a long time I thought maybe these fans are stuck on the first stage and thats why they are here...

But, take into account, that I am not a fan.  What brought me here????  I am not grieving.

It was the weiderness and inconsistencies surrounding the death, that led me here.  In other words, I am not in denial.

I am someone who has thought something else is going on here.  I believe he is still alive, but the world needs to think he is dead.  Thats why so many things point to him being dead...otherwise, the whole point of this hoax would have been for nothing....Keep the faith.  Regardless of what you believe, and what happens, please know that you are not alone..God bless

Maybe I'm not understanding you, but how are you not a fan if you are on this site? Is it just about the music and nothing else but the curiousity, or you just like the music and don't read much into the person? What do you believe and not believe about the speculations over the years? Not putting you down, just curious.  I've been a huge MJ fan and collector for so many years, but though I'm also a collector of a few other artists I admire, I don't feel personal attachment to them like I have with MJ, and still am trying to understand why it's this way.

Anyways, I learned a lot about theories regarding death and the psychology behind it.  I agree with the stages of death, but I also agree that these stages are not linear and can be fluid and interchangeable, and even the theorist that designed these stages has been critical of them not always being in that order.  I definitely felt them at all levels changing every minute, cause I didn't know what to believe, and I have had lots of anger too, cause I'm an angry person generally.
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