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Title: Lady GaGa's Edge of Glory
Post by: gwynned on May 27, 2011, 12:01:05 AM
I think, as some others do, that Lady GaGa has something to do with the hoax.  So I found it interesting that the countdown to the release of Born This Way coincided with the countdown on Michaeljacksonfakeddeath.com.  This made me speculate as to the possibility that the album might contain clues or connections.  

Don't know, but this song struck me as something I might write in anticipation of an MJ return.    Besides, it's pretty catchy.  

Here's the song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S08KonZiew4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S08KonZiew4)

And here are the lyrics.

http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/l/lady ... glory.html (http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/l/lady_gaga/edge_of_glory.html)

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Lady GaGa's Edge of Glory
Post by: TheMoonIsDancing on May 27, 2011, 03:13:11 PM
I was watching the Gaga docu on MTV, and I didn't see this woman as very intelligent. The way she talks seems kind of airheaded, like all she is is an image and nothing really more. No offense to any fans, this is just how i feel about her. I'm not shocked by her, I've seen 'crazier' and I don't think of her as innovative. I do, however, like that she uses her voice for Gay rights.
Title: Re: Lady GaGa's Edge of Glory
Post by: chappie on May 27, 2011, 03:39:17 PM
Yeah For Sure She Is a Dumb Blonde Entertainer....
 rr/
Title: Re: Lady GaGa's Edge of Glory
Post by: Lovely One on May 27, 2011, 04:33:16 PM
Quote from: "TheMoonIsDancing"
I was watching the Gaga docu on MTV, and I didn't see this woman as very intelligent. The way she talks seems kind of airheaded, like all she is is an image and nothing really more. No offense to any fans, this is just how i feel about her. I'm not shocked by her, I've seen 'crazier' and I don't think of her as innovative. I do, however, like that she uses her voice for Gay rights.

You took the words out of my mouth!! I am so tired of seeing her everywhere...I am not shocked by her.
Kylie Minogue (who I love dearly) was doing this stuff in 2002...If you watch Kylie in concert from that
time period its all the same kind of costumes...I am so over Gaga.  Sorry fans of Gaga...I just don't
get it. Also, the music sounds dated to me, very nineties.
As far as her being part of the hoax, you could be right! It seems like someone of her stature in the music
business would know about the hoax and maybe even participate.  geek/
Title: Re: Lady GaGa's Edge of Glory
Post by: TheMoonIsDancing on May 27, 2011, 05:05:53 PM
Quote from: "Lovely One"
You took the words out of my mouth!! I am so tired of seeing her everywhere...I am not shocked by her.
Kylie Minogue (who I love dearly) was doing this stuff in 2002...If you watch Kylie in concert from that
time period its all the same kind of costumes...I am so over Gaga.  Sorry fans of Gaga...I just don't
get it. Also, the music sounds dated to me, very nineties.
As far as her being part of the hoax, you could be right! It seems like someone of her stature in the music
business would know about the hoax and maybe even participate.  geek/

Kylie, Cher, Cyndi, Madonna, Chaka Khan. I could go on....
Gaga seems more like Madonna, does and says things for shock value, but never really shows any raw amazing talent. I don't get a lot of the newer artists. they are cardboard cut outs of past generations, just with a lot more auto tune.
God, I miss Michael :,( If i had a Time machine, I'd go back to 1977 and break the 'future' button. lol
Title: Re: Lady GaGa's Edge of Glory
Post by: LoveNeedsExpression on May 27, 2011, 06:07:59 PM
Quote from: "TheMoonIsDancing"
Quote from: "Lovely One"
You took the words out of my mouth!! I am so tired of seeing her everywhere...I am not shocked by her.
Kylie Minogue (who I love dearly) was doing this stuff in 2002...If you watch Kylie in concert from that
time period its all the same kind of costumes...I am so over Gaga.  Sorry fans of Gaga...I just don't
get it. Also, the music sounds dated to me, very nineties.
As far as her being part of the hoax, you could be right! It seems like someone of her stature in the music
business would know about the hoax and maybe even participate.  geek/

Kylie, Cher, Cyndi, Madonna, Chaka Khan. I could go on....
Gaga seems more like Madonna, does and says things for shock value, but never really shows any raw amazing talent. I don't get a lot of the newer artists. they are cardboard cut outs of past generations, just with a lot more auto tune.
God, I miss Michael :,( If i had a Time machine, I'd go back to 1977 and break the 'future' button. lol

I think she has nothing to do with MJ. She may have some knowledge about what's going because MJ started to work with Akon right around time she got signed by Akon. So there's some connection, but I think it stops there. If you even want to consider that a connection.

I personally think she's a great entertainer. I've seen her live in person, and her music is really good. I don't think there's anything dumb about her. You don't get as far as she has being a complete idiot. She's jus out there, so what?

The Madonna comparisons are crutch to  down her, which I don't understand Madonna is smart and wildly successful. I don't see how being compared to an icon is bad. She's not a Madonna wannabe, I think GaGa is original in her own way. What's wrong wit showing respect to those who influenced you. When MJ dances like James Brown, he's showing respect, but when GaGa does something Madonna-esq its copying?

As great as she is, imo, I do think the illuminati  symbolism is undeniable. She maybe be an illuminati puppet, she may not be. But she an incredible talent. And just like so many great entertainers, she know how to keep her name out there and stay relevant.

Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Lady GaGa's Edge of Glory
Post by: gwynned on May 28, 2011, 04:13:39 PM
Quote from: "LoveNeedsExpression"

As great as she is, imo, I do think the illuminati  symbolism is undeniable. She maybe be an illuminati puppet, she may not be. But she an incredible talent. And just like so many great entertainers, she know how to keep her name out there and stay relevant.

Just my opinion.

Actually, I don't think she's a puppet as much as she is exposing the Illuminati.  Who really connected the Illuminati to the music industry until Jay-Z and GaGa started doing the one eyed thing repeatedly.  What kind of secret society is that?  Sure a quick sign once in awhile, but all the time so that people start wondering?

But you are right.  She knows how to keep her name out there.  Remind you of anyone?  Many speculate that the hyperbaric chamber story was created by Michael himself.  Early on in GaGa's career there were rumors she was a hermaphrodite.  Did she start the rumor and feed it?  If so, she and/or her handler(s) is/are genius(es).  At first I was apalled by her.  Then I realized that she is delivering a message.  One can not like her music, but I would never suggest she is an idiot.  Far from it.  

And I like the lyrics in Born this Way.....God makes no mistakes.  It's a positive message to kids who feel and are different.  Her craziness allows room for everyone.  As for the connection to Michael?  I cannot dismiss the connection to Akon nor her appearance on the Larry King show where she revealed (to I think everyone's surprise) that she was going to open for MJ at the 02.  And she was wearing the black and white thing at the time.  So, either she's being horribly disrespectful to MJ or she knows something and may be part of a larger effort to revitalize the music industry, spearheaded by none other than our wild and crazy Michael.
Title: Re: Lady GaGa's Edge of Glory
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on May 28, 2011, 04:38:50 PM
Quote from: "TheMoonIsDancing"
Quote from: "Lovely One"
You took the words out of my mouth!! I am so tired of seeing her everywhere...I am not shocked by her.
Kylie Minogue (who I love dearly) was doing this stuff in 2002...If you watch Kylie in concert from that
time period its all the same kind of costumes...I am so over Gaga.  Sorry fans of Gaga...I just don't
get it. Also, the music sounds dated to me, very nineties.
As far as her being part of the hoax, you could be right! It seems like someone of her stature in the music
business would know about the hoax and maybe even participate.  geek/

Kylie, Cher, Cyndi, Madonna, Chaka Khan. I could go on....
Gaga seems more like Madonna, does and says things for shock value, but never really shows any raw amazing talent. I don't get a lot of the newer artists. they are cardboard cut outs of past generations, just with a lot more auto tune.
God, I miss Michael :,( If i had a Time machine, I'd go back to 1977 and break the 'future' button. lol


Actually, Lady Gaga and Madonna are distant cousins. They are related.. I guess blood is thicker than water..
Title: Re: Lady GaGa's Edge of Glory
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on May 28, 2011, 04:45:05 PM
Quote from: "gwynned"
Quote from: "LoveNeedsExpression"

As great as she is, imo, I do think the illuminati  symbolism is undeniable. She maybe be an illuminati puppet, she may not be. But she an incredible talent. And just like so many great entertainers, she know how to keep her name out there and stay relevant.

Just my opinion.

Actually, I don't think she's a puppet as much as she is exposing the Illuminati.  Who really connected the Illuminati to the music industry until Jay-Z and GaGa started doing the one eyed thing repeatedly.  What kind of secret society is that?  Sure a quick sign once in awhile, but all the time so that people start wondering?

But you are right.  She knows how to keep her name out there.  Remind you of anyone?  Many speculate that the hyperbaric chamber story was created by Michael himself.  Early on in GaGa's career there were rumors she was a hermaphrodite.  Did she start the rumor and feed it?  If so, she and/or her handler(s) is/are genius(es).  At first I was apalled by her.  Then I realized that she is delivering a message.  One can not like her music, but I would never suggest she is an idiot.  Far from it.  

And I like the lyrics in Born this Way.....God makes no mistakes.  It's a positive message to kids who feel and are different.  Her craziness allows room for everyone.  As for the connection to Michael?  I cannot dismiss the connection to Akon nor her appearance on the Larry King show where she revealed (to I think everyone's surprise) that she was going to open for MJ at the 02.  And she was wearing the black and white thing at the time.  So, either she's being horribly disrespectful to MJ or she knows something and may be part of a larger effort to revitalize the music industry, spearheaded by none other than our wild and crazy Michael.


I agree with you ... I like the song of Born this way she did an interview and she explained, she wrote this song because we are all different, and we all come from God, in God's eyes we are all the same. It is ashame that we don't think this way. Lots of racism, and descriminations going around this society. Yes, if children or mostly teenagers listening to this song, it will help them accept themselves for whom they are.
Title: Re: Lady GaGa's Edge of Glory
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on May 29, 2011, 05:18:55 PM
Lady GaGa: “Madonna & Michael Jackson Inspired ‘Born This Way’”

Do you hear Madonna or Michael Jackson on Lady GaGa’s new album? Because she does.

The Pop eccentric made the interesting claim during an interview with Stephen Fry for the Financial Times. In the insightful feature, she also discusses money meaning nothing to her, her fans and more.

Excerpts after the jump…

Via our good friends over at GaGa Daily:

On money:
“It’s honestly true that money means nothing to me. The only big things I’ve purchased are my dad’s heart valve and a Rolls-Royce for my parents, for their anniversary. And that was only because my dad had a Lady Gaga licence plate on our old car and it was making me crazy because he was getting followed everywhere, so I bought him a new car. Other than that I put everything in the show, and I actually went bankrupt after the first extension of The Monster Ball.”

On fans:
“I sent them hot chocolate yesterday, and macaroons, and then today I had press all day and I felt a bit bad because I wouldn’t have much of a chance to go down and say hello. But I did manage to go down and brought them some fresh cookies and flowers. Little Monsters are a community. It’s kind of nice that wherever I go they create a little home for me.

On Madonna:
“I genuinely love her so much. I think she is so amazing. She could never be replicated and, yes, I’m Italian, I’m from New York, and not for nothing, it’s not my fault that I kind of look like her, right? So, look, if anything, it’s more annoying to me that people would insinuate that I don’t like to be compared to her… She’s wonderful and inspiring and liberating, and she’s certainly inspired my (‘Born This Way’) album, as did David Bowie, as did Prince, as did Michael Jackson, as did Grace Jones, and I would never take that away.”

While the Madonna similarities are at times uncanny, she lost yours truly with the Michael reference. Then again, what’s a GaGa interview without the random wackiness…

http://thatgrapejuice.net/2011/05/lady- ... -born-way/ (http://thatgrapejuice.net/2011/05/lady-gaga-madonna-michael-jackson-inspired-born-way/)

In the interview Lady GaGa said that she's inspired by MJ and by others. That's not really hot news. She's not the only pop artist who's inspired by MJ.
Title: Re: Lady GaGa's Edge of Glory
Post by: RK on May 29, 2011, 10:07:37 PM
Quote from: "TheMoonIsDancing"
Quote from: "Lovely One"
You took the words out of my mouth!! I am so tired of seeing her everywhere...I am not shocked by her.
Kylie Minogue (who I love dearly) was doing this stuff in 2002...If you watch Kylie in concert from that
time period its all the same kind of costumes...I am so over Gaga.  Sorry fans of Gaga...I just don't
get it. Also, the music sounds dated to me, very nineties.
As far as her being part of the hoax, you could be right! It seems like someone of her stature in the music
business would know about the hoax and maybe even participate.  geek/

Kylie, Cher, Cyndi, Madonna, Chaka Khan. I could go on....
Gaga seems more like Madonna, does and says things for shock value, but never really shows any raw amazing talent. I don't get a lot of the newer artists. they are cardboard cut outs of past generations, just with a lot more auto tune.
God, I miss Michael :,( If i had a Time machine, I'd go back to 1977 and break the 'future' button. lol
Chaka Khan shouldn't be used in the same sentence with these other girls. No average voice on this lady. I have been a fan since the days of Rufus. A musician's singer. We are talking a whole nother level.
Oh, and just so I appear to be relevant to topic, Gaga must find it increasingly hard to come up with more shock value as most societial boundaries have already been broken through by her pop predescessors. I wasn't a fan of her meat dress. As for art or performance art, I like it to be astheticly  pleasing and uplifting to the spirit. If I want to be confronted, I'll visit a slaughter house or watch the world news.
Title: Re: Lady GaGa's Edge of Glory
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on May 29, 2011, 11:22:31 PM
[youtube:2zdfbby1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J44BSCnqq1k[/youtube:2zdfbby1]

I suppose  confused/ she can't get her story straight on who inspired her to write Born This Way? fresse/
Title: Re: Lady GaGa's Edge of Glory
Post by: Tove on May 31, 2011, 04:33:09 AM
I'm just listening Gaga's new born this way cd and just wondering- Why all the things from MJ? For example song Bad kid's starts just like They don't care about us. I have to listen the record again to be able to analyze other Michaelism's. But this was weird.
The more I see and hear Gaga the more I find out things from Michael. Well, I suppose it all makes sense someday.
Title: Re: Lady GaGa's Edge of Glory
Post by: voiceforthesilent on May 31, 2011, 09:14:46 AM
Blessings :)

I don't listen to Lady GaGa but you have to give her a lot of credit for not being afraid to be different, even a bit strange - but that's part of her attraction. She's managed to draw attention to herself and that keeps people talking about her. In a business where there is so much competition she was able to make a little niche for herself. Will she last like Madonna, Michael, Prince, etc? Not sure. She has a very good voice but for me I barely hear her words because I'm distracted by the costume. Michael was able to keep the props from getting in the way of the words. It's been said that Michael thought she was amazing.

As far as knowing about the hoax? I doubt it. Just my opinion.

I was reading yesterday an article about her being bankrupt because of her tour. The cost of the production was more than what was coming in - sounds like what Michael experienced with one of his tours. I also read where her album has already sold 100 million records worldwide - and that was in it's first week of release. Is that because she's great at marketing or because she's a great performer or both? Does anyone think that album will sell more than Thriller? Just wondering because it's only just out of the gate and doing this well. Will it have the staying power? Does anyone who owns the album have an opinion on this?

I wish her the best. I personally don't think anyone will ever compare to Michael but I'm biased.

On another note - here is an article where MJ Fans and LG fans are in friendly competition. If you haven't gotten your dot for Michael - you should do so...

http://mjforeverlove.wordpress.com/2011 ... -face-off/ (http://mjforeverlove.wordpress.com/2011/01/31/lady-gaga-and-michael-jackson-fans-face-off/)

Lady Gaga and Michael Jackson Fans Face Off

 

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Lady Gaga and Michael Jackson Fans Face Off

 

Posted by Jacqueline

An Impromptu Competition between Lady Gaga Fans and Michael Jackson Fans is Heating Up!

A friendly, yet fierce, competition has sprung up between the fans of the “Lady” and the fans of the “King.” It all started when artist David Ilan, who is behind the largest Michael Jackson tribute in the world, agreed to create an image of Lady Gaga if enough of her fans participate in the one-of-a-kind project – an interactive work of art.

Ilan sees it differently. “The tribute portraits are completely separate and are not meant to compete with each other,” he said. “Both projects need a million participates in order to be completed, so I guess that sparked the competition to see which project can get a million fans first.”

Ilan is known around the world for his unique “dot drawings” that allow ordinary people to play a role in their creation. His art pieces are made from hand-drawn dots; each dot represents a real person. People participate for free by requesting a dot, and when enough dots come together, an amazing image is formed.

Lady Gaga fans who have seen The Michael Jackson Tribute Portrait (which currently has greater than 270,000 participants in more than 180 countries) asked Ilan to create a dot drawing for Lady Gaga. Ilan responded by saying he would agree to do the drawing if 250,000 Gaga fans register for their dots. With those words, the unintended competition was started.

Even though Ilan sees both projects as completely separate, fans have taken to the Internet and other means to spread the word. To them, the projects represent a battle between the fans.

Jenny Morrison, who was one of the first to sign up at http://www.GagaDots.com (http://www.GagaDots.com), said, “Lady Gaga fans are all about fun. This is a celebration of the greatest recording artist of today. I promise we will get the millionth dot before Michael’s millionth.”

Sharon Salazar calls herself Michael Jackson’s biggest fan and signed up at http://www.MichaelJacksonTributePortrait.com (http://www.MichaelJacksonTributePortrait.com). She says, “Lady Gaga deserves to come in a close second. Bring it on!”

Ilan welcomes a little friendly competition, but asks the fans to remember the meaning behind his projects.

“The Michael Jackson Tribute Portrait promotes Michael’s legacy and humanitarianism,” he said. “I also see the Lady Gaga project promoting causes that are dear to her. Both projects are unique and important and, with the fans’ help, can do a lot of good in the world.”

He added, “Once the competition is over and we reach our goals of a million fans in each tribute portrait, I hope we all focus on the true meaning of the projects – bringing good people together and making great things happen in the names of Michael Jackson and Lady Gaga.”
Title: Re: Lady GaGa's Edge of Glory
Post by: TheMoonIsDancing on June 01, 2011, 08:50:10 PM
Quote from: "RK"
Quote from: "TheMoonIsDancing"
Quote from: "Lovely One"
You took the words out of my mouth!! I am so tired of seeing her everywhere...I am not shocked by her.
Kylie Minogue (who I love dearly) was doing this stuff in 2002...If you watch Kylie in concert from that
time period its all the same kind of costumes...I am so over Gaga.  Sorry fans of Gaga...I just don't
get it. Also, the music sounds dated to me, very nineties.
As far as her being part of the hoax, you could be right! It seems like someone of her stature in the music
business would know about the hoax and maybe even participate.  geek/

Kylie, Cher, Cyndi, Madonna, Chaka Khan. I could go on....
Gaga seems more like Madonna, does and says things for shock value, but never really shows any raw amazing talent. I don't get a lot of the newer artists. they are cardboard cut outs of past generations, just with a lot more auto tune.
God, I miss Michael :,( If i had a Time machine, I'd go back to 1977 and break the 'future' button. lol
Chaka Khan shouldn't be used in the same sentence with these other girls. No average voice on this lady. I have been a fan since the days of Rufus. A musician's singer. We are talking a whole nother level.
Oh, and just so I appear to be relevant to topic, Gaga must find it increasingly hard to come up with more shock value as most societial boundaries have already been broken through by her pop predescessors. I wasn't a fan of her meat dress. As for art or performance art, I like it to be astheticly  pleasing and uplifting to the spirit. If I want to be confronted, I'll visit a slaughter house or watch the world news.

i had to reply because I know what you mean. Chaka Khan is in no way on the same level as the others mentioned, she is both lyrically and vocally blessed and untouchable in her own right. She is above and beyond what these girls could ever be and its no one's fault. I'm referring to their imagery though. There is this undeniable chain linking many artists together as far as how they present themselves onstage, at events, on their album covers, etc.
Chaka Khan is a woman with soul power, class and edge: A lot of cheap artists try to copy this. And I hate to judge, but my honest opinion on Gaga is that she is trying to create an image to hide behind. I don't know why, I don't really care why either, I'm just saying how I feel.

Also, I grew up on Chaka Khan and she will always be one of the most prolific music forces ever seen or heard.

(http://www.cryosites.com/shared/img/c/chaka_khan_sqchb.jpeg)
Title: Re: Lady GaGa's Edge of Glory
Post by: black_orchid on June 26, 2011, 08:44:09 PM
Quote from: "Tove"
I'm just listening Gaga's new born this way cd and just wondering- Why all the things from MJ? For example song Bad kid's starts just like They don't care about us. I have to listen the record again to be able to analyze other Michaelism's. But this was weird.
The more I see and hear Gaga the more I find out things from Michael. Well, I suppose it all makes sense someday.

People say that 'Bad Kids'  DOES have a MJ reference to it!~ Quite the interesting song.


I personally LOVE Lady Gaga. She's awesome! Maybe because I can relate to some of the things she has went through in her life but any other way, I adore her and her music! :)  bearhug
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