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Title: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: brunob12 on May 04, 2011, 10:25:11 AM
MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!! (http://www.tmz.com/2011/05/04/katherine-jackson-michael-jackson-today-conrad-murray-child-molestation/)
5/4/2011 6:20 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

Katherine Jackson is still ADAMANT her son never molested any children ... including MJ's 1993 accuser -- and insists MJ only paid the kid off because his lawyers gave him bad advice.

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Katherine appeared on "Today" this morning ... where Matt Lauer asked if there was anything she wanted to clear up about her son's life.

Katherine responded, "As far as Michael being a child molester ... that's the biggest lie ever been told."

MJ's mom said she read an article after MJ died -- in which the 1993 accuser allegedly admitted he made up the story against Michael.

When Lauer asked why MJ forked over a settlement with the boy ... Katherine said, "His lawyers told him he should just pay the money .. they thought that just paying the money and shut the people up would be the right thing to do."

Katherine said she asked MJ why he made the move -- and MJ told her, "I didn't want to do it either mother, I wanted to fight it because I knew it wasn't the truth."

Was MJ a molester?
    Yes 50%
    No  50%

Total Votes: 28,324
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on May 04, 2011, 10:44:41 AM
Why is this comming up again? He did not do it.. He is innocent and he was acquitted in all counts. So why don't they focus on other important things that is happening in this world.
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: brunob12 on May 04, 2011, 11:04:36 AM
This is the biggest subject to clean his name once for all before the BAM. But honestly I think there's nothing that can be done. There are proofs that Michael was innocent, there are the 333 pages of FBI files, there are tapes of Evan Chandler saying he want to destroy MJ; while there is absolutely NO proof (even with thousands of people looking for some) that he ever touched a child.
There's nothing more that can be done, there will always be haters who don't want anything but bad things for MJ. Harvey should post some article or say live that he is innocent, because it seems to be the only way for them to hear it.

Face it, people are blind because they want to.
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on May 04, 2011, 02:21:04 PM
The only way to clear up Michael's name would be a worldwide, live press conference of Jordan Chandler and that other dude from Bashit's interview, saying out loud and clear:
"Michael Jackson never molested us. We lied"

C'mon  boys stand up and do it. It's about time. This was the biggest hoax ever, really!  crash/
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: mdc on May 04, 2011, 02:42:24 PM
I wouldn't have thought his singing would be the thing she missed most about her son. Not that I'm judging her... but it's not the thing I miss most about MJ.
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: Sarahli on May 04, 2011, 02:54:41 PM
The problem is that most of the people only believe what's in the mass media and the latter did not really reported about Michael's innocence.
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: PureLove on May 04, 2011, 03:01:13 PM
Quote from: "VeryLittleSusie"
The only way to clear up Michael's name would be a worldwide, live press conference of Jordan Chandler and that other dude from Bashit's interview, saying out loud and clear:
"Michael Jackson never molested us. We lied"

Totally agree. Still the haters would believe that Michael was a child molestor even Jordan comes up and say the truth and they would think that the Jacksons gave them money to tell the things they want them to. Haters will be haters no matter what BUT still it would be good for Michael and his name getting cleared in the public eye.
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: willddoMJ on May 04, 2011, 06:51:21 PM
bullshit poll i say crash/  crash/
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: paula-c on May 04, 2011, 06:59:56 PM
Quote
Sarahli  wrote:

The problem is that most of the people only believe what's in the mass media and the latter did not really reported about Michael's innocence.


after Michael was acquitted the means continued seeding doubts about their innocence :evil:  crash/
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: mjaliveomg on May 04, 2011, 07:20:18 PM
how people continue to believe that MJ is a child molester after all that trial? acquitted on all charges!!
Damn,  human being  = shit   crash/
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: happythoughts on May 05, 2011, 12:07:12 AM
50%??!!?!?!?! I'm disappointed in humanity.
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: Kristina4LOVE on May 05, 2011, 01:09:38 AM
Quote from: "happythoughts"
50%??!!?!?!?! I'm disappointed in humanity.

It's 52% now for NO! We are getting there :)
I can't even explain how much those stupid people piss me off, I can't stand it!  :evil:
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: 2good2btrue on May 05, 2011, 02:13:43 AM
Quote from: "brunob12"
This is the biggest subject to clean his name once for all before the BAM. But honestly I think there's nothing that can be done. There are proofs that Michael was innocent, there are the 333 pages of FBI files, there are tapes of Evan Chandler saying he want to destroy MJ; while there is absolutely NO proof (even with thousands of people looking for some) that he ever touched a child.
There's nothing more that can be done, there will always be haters who don't want anything but bad things for MJ. Harvey should post some article or say live that he is innocent, because it seems to be the only way for them to hear it.

Face it, people are blind because they want to.

I agree with the restoration of his image before his return.......Everyone has a soft spot when a Mother talks about her child..and she is more respected and believable.

The other thing I noticed, was her attention to the Lawyers and courts.  Is she bringing this to attention as a clue about the "sting operation" of corruption in the LA courts.??
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: MJonmind on May 06, 2011, 02:59:02 AM
Also I'm wondering in the Obama announcement of Bin Laden's death is also so that more and more people will question the truthfulness of the media. Of the people I talked to the last couple of days, almost nobody believed it. So it's planting a seed of doubt. When 911 happened I think just about everybody believed what they said including me, until we got the internet and other info.

Some of the people I've talked to about the molestation accusations against MJ, said they didn't think it because of the media but because of the Bashir interview where MJ himself talks about sharing his bed, and I agree that that could be the biggest hurdle to help people to understand MJ's words and that situation. Only by thorough investigation of everything MJ, would their thinking be changed. And I'm sure that the more of glimpses of MJ's good character that's put out there like this KJ interview, the more people's understanding of MJ will change.
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: flusen on May 06, 2011, 05:06:34 PM
That poll result is so so shocking for me ...  errrr ... how can people still think of that??
If I don´t know anything about what REALLY was then I don´t klick "yes"!!!

It makes me scared of the trial that comes ... what if the jury thinks like that polls result?
What ever will be i´m so sad about that result!!

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But I think this poll is not "manipulated" by TMZ or others, cause if we still look at the poll on
http://www.tmz.com/2010/11/22/michael-jackson-alive-dead-conspiracy-teddy-riley-blackstreet-dangerous-death-life-hiding its

Did MJ fake his death?

    92%  Yes
    8%    No

Total Votes: 815,065

And here http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/10/michael-jackson-casket-memorial-burial-staples-center/ ...

Michael Jackson

    99%  Still alive
    1%    RIP

Total Votes: 7,126,543



... wow, my first post (i´m very shy) :oops:
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: GINAFELICIA on May 06, 2011, 06:27:08 PM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
Quote from: "brunob12"
This is the biggest subject to clean his name once for all before the BAM. But honestly I think there's nothing that can be done. There are proofs that Michael was innocent, there are the 333 pages of FBI files, there are tapes of Evan Chandler saying he want to destroy MJ; while there is absolutely NO proof (even with thousands of people looking for some) that he ever touched a child.
There's nothing more that can be done, there will always be haters who don't want anything but bad things for MJ. Harvey should post some article or say live that he is innocent, because it seems to be the only way for them to hear it.

Face it, people are blind because they want to.

I agree with the restoration of his image before his return.......Everyone has a soft spot when a Mother talks about her child..and she is more respected and believable.

The other thing I noticed, was her attention to the Lawyers and courts.  Is she bringing this to attention as a clue about the "sting operation" of corruption in the LA courts.??

My thoughts too.
Those lawyers made a "mistake" that ruined his reputation even after "death". This is something that makes me wanna scream.
Now if we think about it, Michael being innocent and the prosecution not being able to prove the accusations, why would his lawyers advise MJ to settle - unless they were on a mission to distroy his reputation suspicious// ?
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: GINAFELICIA on May 06, 2011, 06:33:09 PM
oh, what a nice coincidence, the orange-grey bar in that video with Ms. Katherine geek/
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: luchy on May 06, 2011, 06:42:24 PM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Why is this comming up again? He did not do it.. He is innocent and he was acquitted in all counts. So why don't they focus on other important things that is happening in this world.


agree with you, so many important things to worry about and they insist on this. Why not taken advantage of when Michael Jordan announce his latest tour and publicly apologized? he and the other boy Garvin Arvizo.
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: PeaceLoveHappiness on May 06, 2011, 06:54:32 PM
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
Quote from: "brunob12"
This is the biggest subject to clean his name once for all before the BAM. But honestly I think there's nothing that can be done. There are proofs that Michael was innocent, there are the 333 pages of FBI files, there are tapes of Evan Chandler saying he want to destroy MJ; while there is absolutely NO proof (even with thousands of people looking for some) that he ever touched a child.
There's nothing more that can be done, there will always be haters who don't want anything but bad things for MJ. Harvey should post some article or say live that he is innocent, because it seems to be the only way for them to hear it.

Face it, people are blind because they want to.

I agree with the restoration of his image before his return.......Everyone has a soft spot when a Mother talks about her child..and she is more respected and believable.

The other thing I noticed, was her attention to the Lawyers and courts.  Is she bringing this to attention as a clue about the "sting operation" of corruption in the LA courts.??

My thoughts too.
Those lawyers made a "mistake" that ruined his reputation even after "death". This is something that makes me wanna scream.
Now if we think about it, Michael being innocent and the prosecution not being able to prove the accusations, why would his lawyers advise MJ to settle - unless they were on a mission to distroy his reputation suspicious// ?


I hear you guys, but ultimately, it was Michael's decision to settle with the Chandlers.  Even though his lawyers suggested he settle, he didn't have to.  And although I understand Michael's rationalization for settling the case, it has always surprised me that he knowingly put himself in a position where he was essentially acknowledging/accepting guilt, since settling a case is an admission of guilt in most people's eyes.  I don't think anyone can really point a finger at the lawyers, since Michael was a grown man and capable of making his own decisions.  Michael's decision to settle is why so many people truly believe that he is a child molester.  Most people would have fought that charge in a heartbeat, rather than allow themselves to be stigmatized as something they are not, and on one hand, it really is downright shocking that Michael didn't fight it.  Had it been me, I wouldn't have even needed to think twice; I would have postponed the tour and fought the allegations all the way to victory.
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: heartphantom on May 06, 2011, 06:58:32 PM
Sometimes you buy your peace with time, energy, health, pain...
Sometimes you buy it with money.
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: GINAFELICIA on May 06, 2011, 07:13:56 PM
we were not there to hear how the lawyers presented it to Michael. He probably wanted to put that behind as fast as he could. But you heard Ms. Katherine, Michael didn't want to settle, somehow the lawyers convinced him it was better.
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: brunob12 on May 06, 2011, 07:22:44 PM
Now that I think about it, I believe people will barely come up with the molestation thing after the BAM. Why? Two reasons:

1- there will be something much bigger for people to make jokes with, which is the fake death. They are simply going to make fun of it, like 'oh, no, I forgot to get my wife's clothes. I'm gonna fake my death!' and things like this. The hoax is much bigger than the molestation case; it's where the attentions will be.

2- After This Is It, the whole world remembered who really is Michael Jackson. They remembered that he is not a weird guy who do crazy things, but that he still is the legendary King of Pop. And that's exactly how the new generation sees him; the molestation case was before their time, it's already in the past. Yes, they heard about it, but his talent compensates for everything, being a MJ fan is cool again. Maybe they are bringing up this issue now so that the possible doubt in the new generation's heads (if he is a abuser or not) can be extinct.
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: GINAFELICIA on May 06, 2011, 07:36:48 PM
wow you are right...a faked death could outshine the child mollestor thing... :shock:
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on May 06, 2011, 08:46:35 PM
I honestly think this is the WORST lie attached to Michael's name, that most people believe!
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: StrangerInCalifornia on May 06, 2011, 08:51:05 PM
Quote from: "flusen"
That poll result is so so shocking for me ...  errrr ... how can people still think of that??
If I don´t know anything about what REALLY was then I don´t klick "yes"!!!

It makes me scared of the trial that comes ... what if the jury thinks like that polls result?
What ever will be i´m so sad about that result!!

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

But I think this poll is not "manipulated" by TMZ or others, cause if we still look at the poll on
http://www.tmz.com/2010/11/22/michael-jackson-alive-dead-conspiracy-teddy-riley-blackstreet-dangerous-death-life-hiding its

Did MJ fake his death?

    92%  Yes
    8%    No

Total Votes: 815,065

And here http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/10/michael-jackson-casket-memorial-burial-staples-center/ ...

Michael Jackson

    99%  Still alive
    1%    RIP

Total Votes: 7,126,543



... wow, my first post (i´m very shy) :oops:

WELCOME TO THE MADNESS!!! Dont be shy!  bearhug Everyone here is very nice

I defintely agree that this is an issue that needs to be cleared up before the BAM but the media in general has their own agenda and it seems that something drastic has to happen in order for the media to admit that they were wrong.
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: suspicious mind on May 06, 2011, 09:43:23 PM
he probably caved on paying the settlement because at that point in his career time was money. he knew later that he had to fight for his kids sake.jmo
wouldn't it be interesting if more of those fbi files got opened before it's all over and we find out more about all of this.
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: PeaceLoveHappiness on May 06, 2011, 10:01:06 PM
I believe that the reason this is being brought up again is because since Michael's "death", the general public's perception of him has been slowly changing back to the positive one that it was prior to the first allegations.  More and more people, who once thought that Michael was guilty, are finally starting to see that he was innocent all along.  However, since the allegations are really "yesterday's news" many of these people's perceptions wouldn't be changing if they hadn't been reminded of the allegations again.  And now that Michael is "dead", more people are willing to sympathize with him and see that these awful accusers were just trying to get money out of him.  I also think that people are re-considering their perceptions of him because they are not only seeing how normal and well adjusted Michael's kids are, but also how much his kids adore him.  And let's face it, many real child molesters go after their own kids too, so it is rare that these kids would adore their abusive parent.  Yet since Michael's kids are so well adjusted and adoring of him, previous "haters" are realizing that Michael must have never hurt his own kids, so maybe he never hurt other kids either.
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on May 07, 2011, 11:26:39 AM
Was MJ a molester?

57% No
43% Yes

Total Votes: 127,033

 party/
Title: Re: MJ's Mom -- My Son Was NO Child Molester!!!!!
Post by: flusen on May 07, 2011, 05:19:05 PM
Quote from: "StrangerInCalifornia"

WELCOME TO THE MADNESS!!! Dont be shy!  bearhug Everyone here is very nice

Thank you  :D

Quote from: "StrangerInCalifornia"
... it seems that something drastic has to happen in order for the media to admit that they were wrong.

I totally agree with you!

But what can that be, I hadn´t thougt that so many people think so bad - not knowing the truth - at all. They don´t WANT to know, read and understand. They don´t want to change. The "Childmolester-Story" is more interesting for them than the real MJ!

All the books, reports, even the suicide of Chandlers Dad, the opened FBI-Collection ... that revealed the TRUE story ... and nothing changed their minds?

I totally understand MJs Escape. What if Katherines Answer and the shocking result for that question was a test for BAM? What if he hadn´t thougt about that result at all? What if he NEVER comes back because of that ignorant thinkers?

I´m getting more & more scared about the new trial ... errrr  argue/
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