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Title: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on December 21, 2009, 03:25:39 PM
In the first episode of The Jacksons A Family Dynasty Jackie says he hopes to see Michael soon.
Isn't that a little strange too say, like he wants or hopes to die soon too. Hmm weird  :?

BUT! From the hoax point of view it's like he's saying he will return soon.

And doesn't it sound like he's saying "Soon, you'll see 'm you know" at 3:29 ?? :shock:
What do you think?

[youtube:2thzdti1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTPaulylDA4[/youtube:2thzdti1]
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: Miss.Peppers on December 21, 2009, 03:28:27 PM
Wasnt this recorded before MJ death?
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on December 21, 2009, 03:30:20 PM
Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
Wasnt this recorded before MJ death?

Dont know  :?:
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: See on December 21, 2009, 03:33:51 PM
Sound like he's saying he wants to die soon LOL that is a very wierd sentance he made right there!
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: Crescendo on December 21, 2009, 03:34:05 PM
Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
Wasnt this recorded before MJ death?

true. but i think they mixed in footage from after June 25th. its seriously confusing the way they edited that show.
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: Missyb007 on December 21, 2009, 03:35:59 PM
soon you'll see him you know? and I'm sure you will soon with a --> :D
that's what I hear at 3:29
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: angelshadow on December 21, 2009, 03:38:11 PM
Jackie,Exactly at this moment we are waiting ...
This is the moment ---This is it  :D
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: itsall4love on December 21, 2009, 03:39:25 PM
Yeah, that was kinda weird.
If he means that he wants to die soon too,so he can be with his brother, would he do it with that creepy smile on his face? And what about the other brothers? They don't count anymore? Wouldn't he want to be with them too - alive? :shock:
If he means it the other way.... the "Hoax death" way... well that's good news.

(Is this really how all Jacksons express grief? I mean by showing that creepy smile? Janet did it too..makes you wonder)
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: GirlInTheMirror on December 21, 2009, 03:43:35 PM
Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
Wasnt this recorded before MJ death?
No, after it, because he says that he isn´t afraid of dying because of his brother´s death.
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: angelshadow on December 21, 2009, 03:48:59 PM
what religion is Jackie?
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: DontBelieveTheHype on December 21, 2009, 03:57:17 PM
Dont know what to make of it. Jackie seems to be like the most genuine, down to earth and humble out of all the Jacksons, second to Michael. I absolutely love this man.. He was smiling when he said ''Im sure I will see him soon'' and I wonder if it has to do with the hoax or if he was trying to talk hopeful words into the camera..
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: MJJ1982 on December 21, 2009, 03:58:13 PM
Hm, very interesting. I don't think Jackie wants to die soon, so I'll keep holding on the other explanation :D
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: itsall4love on December 21, 2009, 04:00:38 PM
Ok I might me offtopic here, sorry..But looking for some info on Jackie i read that his whole name is Sigmund Esco "Jackie" Jackson  :?:  had no idea bout that, that's an.. unique name :roll:
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on December 21, 2009, 04:11:18 PM
Quote from: "itsall4love"
Yeah, that was kinda weird.
If he means that he wants to die soon too,so he can be with his brother, would he do it with that creepy smile on his face? And what about the other brothers? They don't count anymore? Wouldn't he want to be with them too - alive? :shock:
If he means it the other way.... the "Hoax death" way... well that's good news.

(Is this really how all Jacksons express grief? I mean by showing that creepy smile? Janet did it too..makes you wonder)

Exactly. How can you smile while you are saying that you're hoping to meet your deceased brother soon??
Like it's a deathwish. And what about his mother? How can another son say something like this if she already lost one child.  :?
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: angelshadow on December 21, 2009, 04:14:17 PM
Okay Jackie smiles (his brother is dead) he is looking forward to the reunion
ask what religion is he has Jackie od happy for the simple reason MJ is alive and comes back or the guy has a coarse problem
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on December 21, 2009, 04:17:07 PM
Quote from: "DontBelieveTheHype"
Dont know what to make of it. Jackie seems to be like the most genuine, down to earth and humble out of all the Jacksons, second to Michael. I absolutely love this man.. He was smiling when he said ''Im sure I will see him soon'' and I wonder if it has to do with the hoax or if he was trying to talk hopeful words into the camera..

Hopeful words to who? Nobody is waiting for Jackie to die...And nobody would benefit from him meeting his brother on the other side. (Or he would have to meet him on this world: alive! :D )

I think his qoute is very hoax related. :geek:
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: itsall4love on December 21, 2009, 04:18:30 PM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Quote from: "itsall4love"
Yeah, that was kinda weird.
If he means that he wants to die soon too,so he can be with his brother, would he do it with that creepy smile on his face? And what about the other brothers? They don't count anymore? Wouldn't he want to be with them too - alive? :shock:
If he means it the other way.... the "Hoax death" way... well that's good news.

(Is this really how all Jacksons express grief? I mean by showing that creepy smile? Janet did it too..makes you wonder)

Exactly. How can you smile while you are saying that you're hoping to meet your deceased brother soon??
Like it's a deathwish. And what about his mother? How can another son say something like this if she already lost one child.  :?
Yes, and Jackie's got children of his own. What about them? Can a father really wish to die in order to meet his dead brother again? Leaving his family but especially his kids? Maybe he just said it without thinking too much. Or maybe it's the other thing 8-)
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: Crescendo on December 21, 2009, 04:22:59 PM
yeah that erked me. he kept saying soon, soon, soon.

sheesh..
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on December 21, 2009, 04:27:16 PM
Quote from: "itsall4love"
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Quote from: "itsall4love"
Yeah, that was kinda weird.
If he means that he wants to die soon too,so he can be with his brother, would he do it with that creepy smile on his face? And what about the other brothers? They don't count anymore? Wouldn't he want to be with them too - alive? :shock:
If he means it the other way.... the "Hoax death" way... well that's good news.

(Is this really how all Jacksons express grief? I mean by showing that creepy smile? Janet did it too..makes you wonder)

Exactly. How can you smile while you are saying that you're hoping to meet your deceased brother soon??
Like it's a deathwish. And what about his mother? How can another son say something like this if she already lost one child.  :?
Yes, and Jackie's got children of his own. What about them? Can a father really wish to die in order to meet his dead brother again? Leaving his family but especially his kids? Maybe he just said it without thinking too much. Or maybe it's the other thing 8-)

He said it like 3 times, so I assume he was thinking. Thinking of the hoax.... ;)
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on December 21, 2009, 04:37:31 PM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
In the first episode of The Jacksons A Family Dynasty Jackie says he hopes to see Michael soon.
Isn't that a little strange too say, like he wants or hopes to die soon too. Hmm weird  :?

BUT! From the hoax point of view it's like he's saying he will return soon.

And doesn't it sound he's saying "Soon, you'll see 'm you know" at 3:29 ?? :shock:
What do you think?

[youtube:1396s1n3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTPaulylDA4[/youtube:1396s1n3]

Reportedly the first episode was filmed before June 25th, he may be hinting that Michael was going to be making an appearance on the show.

Life without Michael
By Melissa Hank 2009-12-11
Is the Jackson reality show a new low?
The four remaining members of The Jackson 5 want you to know one thing – this reality show had been in the works since last January.
The Jack5ons: A Family Dynasty was originally supposed to be an hour-long special, but with the increased spotlight on the family, A&E inflated it to at least six episodes, with plans for more if viewers caught on.
Since the first episode wrapped before Michael's death, an alternative ending was added, filled with news reports of his passing. After production stopped for a few weeks, the brothers filmed interviews about the events for Episode 2, "The Aftermath."
But after the hype and controversy surrounding The Jack5ons: A Family Dynasty, it could all be for naught, as the brothers won’t reveal whether there’ll be a Jackson 5 concert next year.(umm don't they mean Jackson 4 concert or will Michael be joining them after all if there is a concert?)
"Those plans are in the works but you have to wait and see where it goes," Jermaine teased reporters.
Added Gomes, "That is a surprise ending ... so you have to stay tuned for that. The guys live all of those answers out on camera."
http://tvguide.ca/Interviews/Features/Articles/091211_jacksons_reality_show_MH.htm
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: mjboogie on December 21, 2009, 05:38:09 PM
Yep, that is really strange indeed. But did he really say "and you will too?" I don't think he would have said that on national tv right? Shoot that is just like Janet saying everyone needs a safe haven! 8-)
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: EarthSong on December 21, 2009, 06:16:19 PM
I would love to see it as a good sign but he seems really crushed and sad talking about it, he seems really genuine... He makes me feel like Michael really passed  :(  I know it seems weird saying he is looking forward to his own death but could he just have meant that when the time comes he is not afraid beacuse he will see him again? I don't know, watching Jackie talk about Michael didn't make me feel good, it made me feel less hopeful, he just doesn't seem as fake as the other brothers to be faking his emotion.  :(
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: DontBelieveTheHype on December 21, 2009, 06:20:23 PM
Quote from: "EarthSong"
I would love to see it as a good sign but he seems really crushed and sad talking about it, he seems really genuine... He makes me feel like Michael really passed  :(  I know it seems weird saying he is looking forward to his own death but could he just have meant that when the time comes he is not afraid beacuse he will see him again? I don't know, watching Jackie talk about Michael didn't make me feel good, it made me feel less hopeful, he just doesn't seem as fake as the other brothers to be faking his emotion.  :(

I know.. Jackie seems so humble and genuine.. And his emotions seem so real.. I have to try and set that aside and think he is a brilliant actor.. But its hard.
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: Ninanina on December 21, 2009, 06:41:05 PM
Ok, again - he said:

"I'm not afraid of dying right now, because of my brother's death and I'd now like to be with him someday - um - soon, and see him, you know. I'm sure I will soon."

Is that right?
That's actually a horrible thing to say (thinking of the rest of his family), unless he's got a terminal illness, which the family of course would know about.
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: DontBelieveTheHype on December 21, 2009, 06:43:09 PM
Quote from: "Ninanina"
Ok, again - he said:

"I'm not afraid of dying right now, because of my brother's dead and I'd now like to be with him someday - um - soon, and see him, you know. I'm sure I will soon."

Is that right?
That's actually a horrible thing to say (thinking of the rest of his family), unless he's got a terminal illness, which the family of course would know about.

Agreed. Its kind of a morbid thing to say. I dont mind if people say ''we will one day meet again'' but soon very soon? I can see why he is not afraid of dying because of his brothers death, Michael never died. Thats why.
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: teensy on December 21, 2009, 07:22:18 PM
Quote from: "Missyb007"
soon you'll see him you know? and I'm sure you will soon with a --> :D
that's what I hear at 3:29

He did say it!  :shock:  Is he saying we're gonna die to?  :?  He must mean somethings else.  8-)
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: uknowmehomie on December 21, 2009, 07:32:20 PM
I heard that too and I was like "what"??? But we all have to remember that the Jackson clan as a whole are "entertainers", or else we wouldn't know who they were. ;)

Did anyone see last nights episode? I thought it was funny when Jermaine and his wife were in India! Did anyone notice the shirt she was wearing when they first got there? It was a white shirt with sequences on it in the shape of a fedora and it said "Michael Lives"! I thought that was awesome! :D
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: tinker_bell on December 21, 2009, 07:45:08 PM
It reminded me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj5xs3Tj1Bc&feature=fvst (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj5xs3Tj1Bc&feature=fvst)

Jermaine saying 'I wish it was me'

And yes it is morbid thing to say in front of the cameras for the world and your close ones to hear. This is a very private in its controvercy emotion, something you'd say in your prayers when nobody's around or think to yourself. That's what makes me think they could be saying it on purpose.
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on December 22, 2009, 10:18:05 AM
Quote from: "teensy"
Quote from: "Missyb007"
soon you'll see him you know? and I'm sure you will soon with a --> :D
that's what I hear at 3:29

He did say it!  :shock:  Is he saying we're gonna die to?  :?  He must mean somethings else.  8-)

Hahaha I sure he means something else  :D
So we're about to see him soon too  8-)
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: XspeechlessX on December 22, 2009, 12:32:31 PM
okay does that whole meeting not seem really acted to anyone else??  :?
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: icebluestarlight on December 22, 2009, 03:45:50 PM
Quote from: "Missyb007"
soon you'll see him you know? and I'm sure you will soon with a --> :D
that's what I hear at 3:29

Your signature picture of MJ in the orage jacket made me laugh - looks like Kenny from south park LOL :lol:
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: Infinitylady on December 22, 2009, 03:50:22 PM
itsall4love:
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Ok I might me offtopic here, sorry..But looking for some info on Jackie i read that his whole name is Sigmund Esco "Jackie" Jackson  had no idea bout that, that's an.. unique name [/quote]

Huh????!!!  :shock:  I never heard of this as long as I have remembered them being the Jackson 5.
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: Oyan on December 22, 2009, 03:56:42 PM
Quote from: "Infinitylady"
itsall4love:
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Ok I might me offtopic here, sorry..But looking for some info on Jackie i read that his whole name is Sigmund Esco "Jackie" Jackson  had no idea bout that, that's an.. unique name [/quote]

Huh????!!!  :shock:  I never heard of this as long as I have remembered them being the Jackson 5.


Really; new fans huh.  Tito's name is 'Toriano Adaryl 'Tito' Jackson.......
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: DontBelieveTheHype on December 22, 2009, 04:03:32 PM
Quote from: "Infinitylady"
Huh????!!!  :shock:  I never heard of this as long as I have remembered them being the Jackson 5.

These are the birth names  ;) They havent used them though, its not uncommon to give children nicknames when they have long birth names.

Tito: Toriano Adaryll
Marlon: Marlon David
Jackie: Sigmund Esco
Jermaine: Jermaine Lajaune
Janet: Janet Damita Jo
Rebbie: Maureen Reillette
LaToya: La Toya Yvonne
Randy: Steven Randall Jackson

Another thing... Stevie Wonder's real name is not Stevie Wonder. His birth name is: Steveland Hardaway Judkins and then was later changed to: Stevland Hardaway Morris.

The same goes for Freddy Mercury, lead singer of Queen, if you didnt know, his birth name was: Farrokh Bulsara.

I have an uncle who we call by our last name. So when we speak to him we actually refer to him as ''lastname lastname'' instead of using his first name, because its really long.  :D Our surname became his nickname.
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: Kirsche on December 22, 2009, 04:47:09 PM
Quote from: "Missyb007"
soon you'll see him you know? and I'm sure you will soon with a --> :D
that's what I hear at 3:29


I think he says " Soon I'll see him..."  But yes he's smiling like " Oh hell yes, I will "  :D
Title: Re: Jackie hopes 'to see his brother soon' ?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on December 22, 2009, 05:24:42 PM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "Missyb007"
soon you'll see him you know? and I'm sure you will soon with a --> :D
that's what I hear at 3:29


I think he says " Soon I'll see him..."  But yes he's smiling like " Oh hell yes, I will "  :D

Maybe he's saying that but it's still very odd to say that. How is he so sure? Im thinking of a hooooax  :D
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