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Title: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: ForstAMoon on April 18, 2011, 03:03:40 AM
Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died (http://www.tmz.com/2011/04/18/conrad-murrays-stripper-doc-talked-about-napping-before-mj-died-lapd-detectives-interview-transcript/)
about a minute ago by TMZ Staff  

A stripper who received a call from Dr. Conrad Murray just hours before Michael Jackson died told LAPD detectives the doc "sounded tired and he was like I'm gonna get some sleep whatever."

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/02/07/0207-conrad-mj-getty-tmz-ex-02.jpg)

The stripper, Michelle Bella, met Dr. Murray at the Spearmint Rhino gentleman's club in Las Vegas in 2008.  The story of how they met is hilarious, but first the important stuff.

Bella told detectives ... on   June 25, 2009, Dr. Murray left a message on her phone at about 8:30 AM.  According to sources with direct knowledge of the case ... Bella told cops Murray had mentioned Michael Jackson to her before and said, "I mean his schedule was obviously, you know -- I know that he was like up all hours because of his work so when -- so when he called, you know, he sounded tired and he was like I'm gonna get some sleep whatever."

The interview is significant -- TMZ broke a story on July 27, 2009 that "Authorities believe Dr. Murray may have actually fallen asleep during the time the drug [Propofol] was administered and may have awakened to find Jackson already dead from heart failure."

Now the hilarious part.  Bella told cops about the magic moment when she met Murray at Spearment Rhino  -- "He came in there with his scrubs and he was there with like a client of his."  Bella, who says she was studying to be a chiropractic assistant, says, "We were just sharing some like, you know, medical knowledge and this and that and I know he was intrigued with me."

Murray must have been intensely impressed with her medical knowledge.  According to the transcript, Bella says she "sat with him for about roughly like an hour and a half and he paid me $1,000."

Dr, heal thyself!
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 18, 2011, 04:33:32 AM

Now what kind of weird story is this?  :?
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: GINAFELICIA on April 18, 2011, 04:52:00 AM
I am curious what medical knowledge they shared....how to perform CPR maybe?

And he payed 1000 S for this  :lol: ?

How much garbage still awaits to be printed about what Murray did that day  :roll: ?
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: MJonmind on April 18, 2011, 05:08:56 AM
Yes, I'm sure that if MJ was really dead, his fans and family would find it all so hilarious. Strange choice of words.
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: 2good2btrue on April 18, 2011, 06:14:53 AM
Maybe off topic but.......

What's up with the different picture they chose of MJ ???? Different ERA .

Looks similar to the Gala for president Clinton at the time......Hmmmmm

I was just looking into that.  Whether Clinton has to power to help MJ pull off this elaborate hoax...

"Bill Clinton took time out while at a Port-au-Prince, Haiti, hotel today (July 7) to recall Michael Jackson‘s performance at a 2002 fundraiser at New York’s Apollo theater. “He basically helped save my party from terrible financial distress, so he was very kind to me personally,” said the former American president.Clinton also remembered that the King of Pop also performed at his first inauguration in 1993."

http://www.fadedyouthblog.com/117523/bi ... el-jackson (http://www.fadedyouthblog.com/117523/bill-clinton-remembers-michael-jackson)
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: MJhasSpoken on April 18, 2011, 06:34:04 AM
So he paid $1000 for a medical lesson?  :roll:
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: MJhasSpoken on April 18, 2011, 07:00:32 AM
I typed 'heal thyself' and I found this from wikipedia.

Physician, heal thyself is a proverb found in Luke 4:23.
“And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.   ”
The usual interpretation of this passage is that, during the Rejection of Jesus, Jesus expected to hear natives of his hometown of Nazareth use this phrase to criticize him.
The moral of the proverb is counsel to attend to one's own defects rather than criticizing defects in others, a sentiment also expressed in the Discourse on judgmentalism.
Jesus used these words to attribute the words of Isaiah 61:1 to himself. According to believers, he was also prophesying that his adversaries would say these words even as he hung on the cross at his crucifixion, which may be intereperted as the taunts to come down from the cross himself.
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 18, 2011, 07:10:49 AM
Luke 4:23? Something interesting in the planning for April 23?
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: whisper on April 18, 2011, 07:19:38 AM
Murray was..........
in the bathroom
on the phone
texting and sleeping?
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 18, 2011, 07:24:11 AM
Quote from: "whisper"
Murray was..........
in the bathroom
on the phone
texting and sleeping?

Not possible. He's a guy, guys can't do more than one thing at once :lol:
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on April 18, 2011, 07:58:40 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Luke 4:23? Something interesting in the planning for April 23?



 Now thats what I would call a real   8-)   Birthday present  and Easter Sunday is the next day  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Just wating and watching.  :D
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on April 18, 2011, 08:34:22 AM
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
I am curious what medical knowledge they shared....how to perform CPR maybe?

And he payed 1000 S for this  :lol: ?

How much garbage still awaits to be printed about what Murray did that day  :roll: ?


He probably paid her 1000$ to have sex with her, not to talk about her knowledge of medicine.  :lol:  what a duche bag..  :lol:
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: angelshadow on April 18, 2011, 08:45:55 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "whisper"
Murray was..........
in the bathroom
on the phone
texting and sleeping?

Not possible. He's a guy, guys can't do more than one thing at once :lol:

I agree. 8-)  :lol:
This is confirmed by my experience, that's for sure. :?
I have to read the article again ... strange story.
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: taty_2crazy on April 18, 2011, 09:31:48 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "whisper"
Murray was..........
in the bathroom
on the phone
texting and sleeping?

Not possible. He's a guy, guys can't do more than one thing at once :lol:
You´re so damn right. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: Integrity on April 18, 2011, 09:53:22 AM
This is a SCRIPT!
Can't be real!
HE WENT TO SLEEP! :shock:  :shock:
I wonder how far this is going to go? :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: MissG on April 18, 2011, 10:04:08 AM
After reading this the scenario what I can picture is that Michael was disguised as "Dr Murray", went to a club to talk to someone hiding behind the identity of A doctor (created that persona/ alter for that purpose) and may be was blackmailed after. This story of mine makes more sense than all I read in tabloids  :|
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: RK on April 18, 2011, 10:16:30 AM
What a bizaar story. So they were sharing medical stories. Job description of a chiropractor assistant is more of a jill of all trades that is basicly  receptionist/secretarial work.  How much study would that involve?
I love the expression on MJ's face in this picture. Thoughtful.
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: MissG on April 18, 2011, 10:26:44 AM
An assistant would perform small adjustments i believe, not just secretarial work.

However, if "Murray" paid 1000$ for a chat he really was in the need of human contact. Gosh, would be easier to take a coffee somewhere and start chatting with the next table, or at least, cheaper!
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: RK on April 18, 2011, 10:31:27 AM
Quote from: "Gema"
An assistant would perform small adjustments i believe, not just secretarial work.

However, if "Murray" paid 1000$ for a chat he really was in the need of human contact. Gosh, would be easier to take a coffee somewhere and start chatting with the next table, or at least, cheaper!
I apologize ahead of my comment.
Yes cheaper but could they crack his back if they wrapped themselves around him?
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: PureLove on April 18, 2011, 11:22:21 AM
I thought that Murray was on the phone while MJ was "dying". Ohh no wait, he was at the bathroom! Or was he sleeping? Or maybe he made the call from the bathroom and when he was on the phone with one of his chicks, he fell asleep. How about this scenario? :lol:
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: bec on April 18, 2011, 11:35:44 AM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
I am curious what medical knowledge they shared....how to perform CPR maybe?

And he payed 1000 S for this  :lol: ?

How much garbage still awaits to be printed about what Murray did that day  :roll: ?


He probably paid her 1000$ to have sex with her, not to talk about her knowledge of medicine.  :lol:  what a duche bag..  :lol:


The media have done their job, they can now rest peacefully, at least one fell for their stories.

Come on! That's the last thing I believe! $1000 is one hell of a high priced whore, are you kidding me??
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: PureLove on April 18, 2011, 11:44:45 AM
Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
I am curious what medical knowledge they shared....how to perform CPR maybe?

And he payed 1000 S for this  :lol: ?

How much garbage still awaits to be printed about what Murray did that day  :roll: ?


He probably paid her 1000$ to have sex with her, not to talk about her knowledge of medicine.  :lol:  what a duche bag..  :lol:


The media have done their job, they can now rest peacefully, at least one fell for their stories.

Come on! That's the last thing I believe! $1000 is one hell of a high priced whore, are you kidding me??

Especially for a man who can barely afford his lawyers. ;)
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: Miss.Peppers on April 18, 2011, 12:07:17 PM
I can kind of guess where this is going...

Dr Murray fell asleep, and thats when the mysterious "Mr X" came into the room and injected the fatal dose and thus leaving his fingerprints on the syringe.
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: starlight30 on April 18, 2011, 12:09:42 PM
Dr Heal Thyself part is very interesting. That seems like the message.

Also in Hollywood Tonight the girl dances on a stripper pole. Having the word hilarious in the article. Somebody is having a good chuckle.
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: LoveNeedsExpression on April 18, 2011, 12:29:53 PM
To me, this article, along with a few other recent ones, are loud cries for attention. What I mean by that is, how much bs can some people take until they notice things dont add up?  Its like waving cap nip in front of a cat, and waiting for it to pounce, except for no one is "pouncing" on these contradictions.

If some one truly believes every word TMZ has wrote about MJ/Jackson family, their head must have exploded months ago. To me, this is testing the limits of the general public's (the court of public opinion) common sense, or lack there of.
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: Miss.Peppers on April 18, 2011, 12:50:05 PM
c'mon TMZ and post my theory already!!    :lol:
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: paula-c on April 18, 2011, 03:34:40 PM
Quote
A stripper who received a call from Dr. Conrad Murray just hours before Michael Jackson died told LAPD detectives the doc "sounded tired and he was like I'm gonna get some sleep whatever."


Yes of course, Murray was very tired and I suppose that Michael were tuning the last details of hoax and wanted to sleep a little :lol:
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: scorpionchik on April 18, 2011, 11:29:15 PM
"The interview is significant -- TMZ broke a story on July 27, 2009 that "Authorities believe Dr. Murray may have actually fallen asleep during the time the drug [Propofol] was administered and may have awakened to find Jackson already dead from heart failure."


What happened to intruder who supposedly killed Michael giving fatal dose? Oh yeah, and intruder knew that Murray is sleeping and not monitoring Michael, thus got in the house exactly at that time. Wow.....genious story.  :lol:
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: RK on April 19, 2011, 12:08:04 AM
Just a thought. Kenny mentioned they planned to rehearse Dirty Diana on the 25th and this scenario of a playboy Murray is being presented to us as happening on the 25th. Murray juggling 3 ladies, one of whom is a pole dancing stripper. I'm also reminded of Michael Beardon"s comments in an interview saying MJ said he was going to be in the bed with the arielist and Orianthi and " Beardon, I could handle it". I thought at the time it was a strange thing to say for Michael Beardon.
So in recap, a possible proposition is that this is the promised Dirty Diana performance that Kenny told us about, but Murray is the performer of it and not Michael. :?
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: Lovely One on April 19, 2011, 02:04:24 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "whisper"
Murray was..........
in the bathroom
on the phone
texting and sleeping?

Not possible. He's a guy, guys can't do more than one thing at once :lol:

So TRUE!!! :lol:
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on April 19, 2011, 03:25:21 AM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
Maybe off topic but.......

What's up with the different picture they chose of MJ ???? Different ERA .

Looks similar to the Gala for president Clinton at the time......Hmmmmm
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"Gone Too Soon" is a song originally performed by Michael Jackson. It is the ninth single taken from the album Dangerous. It peaked at #33 on the UK Singles Chart in December 1993.
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Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: StrangerInCalifornia on April 19, 2011, 10:58:38 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "whisper"
Murray was..........
in the bathroom
on the phone
texting and sleeping?

Not possible. He's a guy, guys can't do more than one thing at once :lol:
:lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: shelby61 on April 19, 2011, 04:13:36 PM
Quote from: "RK"
Just a thought. Kenny mentioned they planned to rehearse Dirty Diana on the 25th and this scenario of a playboy Murray is being presented to us as happening on the 25th. Murray juggling 3 ladies, one of whom is a pole dancing stripper. I'm also reminded of Michael Beardon"s comments in an interview saying MJ said he was going to be in the bed with the arielist and Orianthi and " Beardon, I could handle it". I thought at the time it was a strange thing to say for Michael Beardon.
So in recap, a possible proposition is that this is the promised Dirty Diana performance that Kenny told us about, but Murray is the performer of it and not Michael. :?

Could this whole Dirty Diana bed scene be the cross over from film into augmented reality?  There were several videos where Michael is in bed and just disappears (thriller being one of them) and I know we have talked about this on the forum.  Somehow these two scenes relate to each other but in which sequence and how?  Something to think about - but RK you peaked my thoughts on this.
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: RK on April 19, 2011, 08:50:45 PM
@shelby61, there seems to me to be connections to be linked with this. The other news article claiming a mystery person X killed Michael. I get X-rated from that. Then Murray's autograph hunter getting the signature on a playboy mag. All this is taking me back to MJ's use of Proverbs 5:3 in Dangerous. Providing warning about the temptations and traps when a man is not master of his own mind and body.
It also has made me think about what is thrust upon little girls, how they are thrust into adulthood too soon and are conditioned to draw value and self worth from looking attractive and alluring, but this is so wrong.  Media is conditioning our children into going Hollywood tonight and day. Women may have the power to make men weak at the knees [ and MJ's whole life he has experienced and seen women throwing themselves and flaunting at him] but we are so very much more than that. The bottom line of my thoughts regarding this is not selling ourselves short. It's time to elevate the mindset of the masses [and women in general and the way they are viewed by men]  by valuing true beauty, which includes integrity, faithfulness and purity.
And thanks for replying.  :)
Title: Re: Stripper Says Dr. Murray Wanted Sleep As MJ Died
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on April 20, 2011, 05:16:02 PM
Quote from: "MJhasSpoken"
I typed 'heal thyself' and I found this from wikipedia.

Physician, heal thyself is a proverb found in Luke 4:23.
“And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.   ”
The usual interpretation of this passage is that, during the Rejection of Jesus, Jesus expected to hear natives of his hometown of Nazareth use this phrase to criticize him.
The moral of the proverb is counsel to attend to one's own defects rather than criticizing defects in others, a sentiment also expressed in the Discourse on judgmentalism.
Jesus used these words to attribute the words of Isaiah 61:1 to himself. According to believers, he was also prophesying that his adversaries would say these words even as he hung on the cross at his crucifixion, which may be intereperted as the taunts to come down from the cross himself.

Thanks for looking this up. About judgmentalism, I’m thinking of Dr. Murray and all the accusations made about him and all the tabloid stories written in a way to mislead the public. Example: "Authorities believe Dr. Murray may have actually fallen asleep during the time the drug..”  Com’on  guys, this sounds like an assumption to me (like in many tabloids). Did you ever wonder about whether the story is complete? I mean the stripper’s story could be true, though when just a part of the story is posted or is twisted, the true story can be out of balance. Could it be that the stripper owes Murray $1000 for his medical lessons or services (LOL whatever that may be)
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