Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Contradictions and all stuff that doesn't add up => Topic started by: AngelGraduatedbyMJ on February 25, 2011, 10:25:53 PM
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I completed what is called an Intelius search. Intelius is a very reliable site with public records.
First, I entered Michael J Jackson, then I entered the city where Neverland is located : Los Olivos.
I found a few results, but there will always be people to say it could be someone else.
I paid a fee to have more information AND I GOT IT!
There u go fellow hoaxers s;) ;) s;) I have his name, his month of birth, his age, AND the Neverland adress, an adress you can very easily find on Google.
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I can't tell you what I felt when I saw this ...
Now it's not the only thing. Death records are also available on Intelius. There were lots of Michael Jacksons. But NO ONE aged 50. I have the entire list if someone want it, but he's not on it.
I completed a search for MJ, and of course, didn't find him. Neither in California, neither in Alabama.
So I thought, let's check if i find someone else, like someone who died the same day : Farrah Fawcett... and I found the lady (RIP). Didn't work for California, but worked with Texas (She was born in Texas). Here's the proof:
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I tried the search for Elvis, and I found him as well.
I think we can add this to the very odd "no name on his tomb". <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
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Intelius is indeed very reliable info.
I'm not surprised because I know MJ is not dead.
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Thank you for sharing this information. It is insightful. I am curious - you say you checked Alabama. Is there a reason for that? Michael was born in Illinois, not Alabama.
Thanks again for sharing these results. I do believe Michael would be on there "if" the death certificate were real. Blessings.
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I'm not familiar with that site (but that means nothing) so I don't know how they get their info but it definitely is interesting. I hope the fee you paid to view this wasn't that big. :P But it would be just like Michael to hide out in the open like that.
Awesome first post AngelGraduatedbyMJ!
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I am SO sorry. I made a mistake, I tried with Indiana. He was born in Indiana. I'm French, so I got all mixed up. :P
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Great work, this made my day :D :D :D Thank you for spending your money for the information, I appreciate it.
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AngelGraduatedbyMJ
Interesting.
I realize that Intelius is supposed to be reliable I have been tempted to use the
paid service in the past.
However, from the looks of that report ...how reliable and how old is that information?
Like what is up with the "average income" and the "average and the house value"?
He paid more than that for Neverland when he bought it.
On that properties worst day it would still appraise in the millions.
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That would be the other residential properties of the area not acreage the likes of Neverland.
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http://realestate.aol.com/neighborhoods ... s/id-93441 (http://realestate.aol.com/neighborhoods-Los_Olivos-CA-93441/Los_Olivos/id-93441)
More info on link;
Median Household Income $76,456
Income Per Capita $42,595
Median Housing Value $962,100
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Thanks for the confirmation AngelGraduatedbyMJ and welcome!
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Hahaha this average income is probably from royalties per month just from playing one song everyday worldwide, like Billie Jean for example... :lol:
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:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
TEARS OF JOY :!:
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Thank you so much for this information!! Thanks :D
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:) I'm so happy I can contribute to the huge work that has been completed so far.
Till I found this, I had these "off moments", moments when I believed I had been mistaken about the whole hoax possibility. It was tough, but my mum always cheered me up. My mum is a 60 yo old lady. She's not what I would call a fan, but if there was one "new generation" act she liked to watch, it was MJ. She was more crazy about his dancing than his music (we're french-ukrainian, so her not understanding his lyrics is a big deal for her), and she always told me she was happy my idol was a man with such a great soul, because it made her believe she had succeeded in giving me good values.
My mum is not a psychic lol, but she has always had a very impressive 6th sense. What I'm telling u is true : the day they announced MJ's death on tv, like 15 minutes after we heard it, she told me "He's not dead. I'm telling u, I don't buy it. Don't u cry. U know MJ, it's just a joke!" :lol: . A few weeks ago, she told me how she had watched a documentary on the FBI assisting people with a faked death. People who had accomplished significant work for the government and whose security was threatened. The documentary showed how they had a tomb, with their name on it, but they were actually having fun in Vegas. She told me : "See, it's a current thing in the US!" I wish I could find this documentory. I'm still searching it.
Anyway, I just wanted to say that I'm happy if it brightened your day like it did for me (God I was really ecstatic, and I'm still is!!!!). It may seem more or less important to people, I see it as a big step. I send U all my LOVE :)
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I just wanted to add that I have no idea about the amounts given for the average income and the Residence value. We don't know what they mean by average income. It may be the average income in the neighborhood. Same for the residence value. It's definitely NOT MJ's lol 8-)
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Wow, thank you!! So according to this, MJ is living at Neverland?
Hmm, i looked up "5225 figueroa mtn rd los olivos, ca 93441" to see if it led to Neverland, but it said "We did not find the exact location you entered." :?
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@AngelGraduatedbyMJ
Thanks very much! Great! (where have you been all this time, good you found the forum :lol: ?)
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Wow, thank you!! So according to this, MJ is living at Neverland?
Hmm, i looked up "5225 figueroa mtn rd los olivos, ca 93441" to see if it led to Neverland, but it said "We did not find the exact location you entered." :?
No. According to this MJ is not dead.
5225 [7 7]figueroa mtn rd los olivos, ca 93441 [21] lol
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:) I'm so happy I can contribute to the huge work that has been completed so far.
Till I found this, I had these "off moments", moments when I believed I had been mistaken about the whole hoax possibility. It was tough, but my mum always cheered me up. My mum is a 60 yo old lady. She's not what I would call a fan, but if there was one "new generation" act she liked to watch, it was MJ. She was more crazy about his dancing than his music (we're french-ukrainian, so her not understanding his lyrics is a big deal for her), and she always told me she was happy my idol was a man with such a great soul, because it made her believe she had succeeded in giving me good values.
My mum is not a psychic lol, but she has always had a very impressive 6th sense. What I'm telling u is true : the day they announced MJ's death on tv, like 15 minutes after we heard it, she told me "He's not dead. I'm telling u, I don't buy it. Don't u cry. U know MJ, it's just a joke!" :lol: . A few weeks ago, she told me how she had watched a documentary on the FBI assisting people with a faked death. People who had accomplished significant work for the government and whose security was threatened. The documentary showed how they had a tomb, with their name on it, but they were actually having fun in Vegas. She told me : "See, it's a current thing in the US!" I wish I could find this documentory. I'm still searching it.
Anyway, I just wanted to say that I'm happy if it brightened your day like it did for me (God I was really ecstatic, and I'm still is!!!!). It may seem more or less important to people, I see it as a big step. I send U all my LOVE :)
Thank you so much for posting this information, i feel bad you had to pay for it. I hope it did not cost you too much. I like your mom, I have intuitions too, and when I saw the announcement in the internet of his passing, I said, Nah.. he is not dead, this was done right before his tour, and he did not want to do it. This was a good opportunity to get away without any penalty is to fake his death. I am not 60 but 10 yrs younger than your mom. So girl listen to your mom, like they say mom's know best. God bless.
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Wow, thank you!! So according to this, MJ is living at Neverland?
Hmm, i looked up "5225 figueroa mtn rd los olivos, ca 93441" to see if it led to Neverland, but it said "We did not find the exact location you entered." :?
No. According to this MJ is not dead.
5225 [7 7]figueroa mtn rd los olivos, ca 93441 [21] lol
Well yes, I saw that too :D
It also gave the address to Neverland, so I thought that would've meant he was living there. :?
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@AngelGraduatedbyMJ thank u sooo much, this is really valuable info, it made my day :D thank u!
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Thanx for the conformation about something i already knew "AngelGraduatedbyMJ". MICHAEL IS NOT DEAD. :D
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AngelGraduatedbyMJ , what more can we say? !Thank you! :D
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@MJFAN7 :
"Hmm, i looked up "5225 figueroa mtn rd los olivos, ca 93441" to see if it led to Neverland, but it said "We did not find the exact location you entered." :?"
Did u look on Intelius? If u did the adress search, like I did, u would have to pay a fee to have the name of the residents.
I don't want to pay 14.95$ again, because that's just enough evidence for me.
@Gema : "Thanks very much! Great! (where have you been all this time, good you found the forum :lol: ?)"
I've been following this forum for months but I only had beliefs, no proof. I saw someone did the search (can't remember where) and I decided it was worth paying 15$ after months of "hoax searching".
I'm happy I made you people happy :lol: . I was at a point when I was starting to think we, hoaxers, were delusional; but this definitely changed my mind. I don't know if he'll ever come back, but I'm sure he lives and I'm sure he didn't have a choice. No way. I'm glad he enjoys watchin his kids grow, I think he deserves it, after all he gave to us. What more can I say? MY BABY LIVES!!!!!!!! :D that's what I've been repeating with ecstasy in my mind for 2 weeks now. I didn't want anything more, I just wanted him to be happy, because Dear Michael :
"What I hope most of all is that you understand what I mean when I tell you that though I do not know you and even though I may never meet you, laugh with you, cry with you, or kiss you, I love you. With all my heart, I love you."
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WOW! :shock:
This is some very intriguing information, I looked up the address on Google Maps and it led to the gates of Neverland to the left and another path that trails to the right. ;) I was so jubilant! :lol: 8-)
This caught my attention today and made me happy :P This very vauable information! Thanks for sharing it with us! :D
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Thank you so much for this info. It is a confirmation about what we've been thinking about his "death". :)
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This is pretty amazing.
I wonder what happens if you enter the name etc for other dead celebrities- would it show their known last addresses? What is odd, though, is that Neverland was NOT Michael's last known address. Things that make you go "hmmmmm????" You would think if he was just left in the data base, it would show Holmbry Hills house.
THank you for going all out for this!
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Thank you AngelGraduatedbyMJ!
I watched it on Google Maps and then started to "look around" in Neverland - as I've have never watched it before.
It is crazy that I even care about what I saw there, because I know that our minds react to every little nonsense during this hoax, but eventually I decided that I post it. It's April Fool's Day, so why not to be a little silly ;)
It is nothing interesting - I just should figure out how a plough tractor works :lol:
Why does it cut a 25 into the ground when it works in a corner?
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Thank you AngelGraduatedbyMJ!
I watched it on Google Maps and then started to "look around" in Neverland - as I've have never watched it before.
It is crazy that I even care about what I saw there, because I know that our minds react to every little nonsense during this hoax, but eventually I decided that I post it. It's April Fool's Day, so why not to be a little silly ;)
It is nothing interesting - I just should figure out how a plough tractor works :lol:
Why does it cut a 25 into the ground when it works in a corner?
Maybe it's me but I can't discover any 25.Can you point to where I should look?
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Thank you AngelGraduatedbyMJ!
I watched it on Google Maps and then started to "look around" in Neverland - as I've have never watched it before.
It is crazy that I even care about what I saw there, because I know that our minds react to every little nonsense during this hoax, but eventually I decided that I post it. It's April Fool's Day, so why not to be a little silly ;)
It is nothing interesting - I just should figure out how a plough tractor works :lol:
Why does it cut a 25 into the ground when it works in a corner?
Maybe it's me but I can't discover any 25.Can you point to where I should look?
It's in the upper right-hand corner of the picture. It doesn't look like 25 to me. Perhaps I'm seeing incorrectly, but to me, it looks like SEE YOU IN 2011.
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Wow, this information and the picture really made my day! :D
Didn't waste your money for nothing, - welcome to the forums.
Maybe it's me but I can't discover any 25.Can you point to where I should look?
If you still haven't found it. And in case someone else doesn't either, here is a picture where I've circled the number "25" so everyone can spot it easily!
(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3351/25ongroundmj.th.png) (http://img263.imageshack.us/i/25ongroundmj.png/)
(click for bigger size)
I did my own little research on it, and to me it looks like it says "2520". Which doesn't really make any sense to me..
(adjusting the levels and continuing the sentence, now it says "2520 SEE U", or "2520 SEELU", not sure. There's something between the E and U.)
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Sorry doubleposting (again), but there's something I really have to ask you.
I used Intelius to find every "Michael Jackson" located inside the United States, and two of them really caught my eye.
(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/922/michaeljacksonintelius.th.png) (http://img508.imageshack.us/i/michaeljacksonintelius.png/)
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If I'm right.. Intelius only shows the names for ones that are still alive. I'm not familiar with the site so I don't really know if it's true at all. Anyways, without paying any money this is what I got. Tell me what you think.
EDIT: As the creator of this thread said, "Intelius has death records as well, and I found many Michael Jacksons but no one of the age of 50 or above." - something like that he said. So.. I believe the "Michael Mr Jackson" has been added recently. I'm not sure, you can call me stupid for this thread 'cus I'm writing this when a bit tired so m'yeah... dunno.
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I am SO sorry. I made a mistake, I tried with Indiana. He was born in Indiana. I'm French, so I got all mixed up. :P
Thank you angel...it is really easy to do. I did the same thing by saying Illinois when I meant Indiana :) We are all tired and have so much running through our minds. I'm glad we all have each other to sort this out.
Very interesting Google pictures. I see the 25 - not sure what to make of it but it does put a smile on my face.
Blessings.
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Sorry doubleposting (again), but there's something I really have to ask you.
I used Intelius to find every "Michael Jackson" located inside the United States, and two of them really caught my eye.
(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/922/michaeljacksonintelius.th.png) (http://img508.imageshack.us/i/michaeljacksonintelius.png/)
(click for bigger image)
If I'm right.. Intelius only shows the names for ones that are still alive. I'm not familiar with the site so I don't really know if it's true at all. Anyways, without paying any money this is what I got. Tell me what you think.
EDIT: As the creator of this thread said, "Intelius has death records as well, and I found many Michael Jacksons but no one of the age of 50 or above." - something like that he said. So.. I believe the "Michael Mr Jackson" has been added recently. I'm not sure, you can call me stupid for this thread 'cus I'm writing this when a bit tired so m'yeah... dunno.
I did the search too and it returned the same as you founf, but the third location where he lived in was Encino
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Wow, this information and the picture really made my day! :D
Didn't waste your money for nothing, - welcome to the forums.
Maybe it's me but I can't discover any 25.Can you point to where I should look?
If you still haven't found it. And in case someone else doesn't either, here is a picture where I've circled the number "25" so everyone can spot it easily!
(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3351/25ongroundmj.th.png) (http://img263.imageshack.us/i/25ongroundmj.png/)
(click for bigger size)
I did my own little research on it, and to me it looks like it says "2520". Which doesn't really make any sense to me..
(adjusting the levels and continuing the sentence, now it says "2520 SEE U", or "2520 SEELU", not sure. There's something between the E and U.)
Thank you angranity for making the picture any clearer. I see the 25 now and there seems to be written more next to it but I can't exactly see if these are numbers or letters.
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You're welcome, allforlove.
I adjusted the levels using Photoshop and I found out it seems to be something like '2520', - followed by more letters. Something like 'SEE U' or 'SEELU'. I am not sure though so don't count on me here! :D
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Wow, this information and the picture really made my day! :D
Didn't waste your money for nothing, - welcome to the forums.
Maybe it's me but I can't discover any 25.Can you point to where I should look?
If you still haven't found it. And in case someone else doesn't either, here is a picture where I've circled the number "25" so everyone can spot it easily!
(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3351/25ongroundmj.th.png) (http://img263.imageshack.us/i/25ongroundmj.png/)
(click for bigger size)
I did my own little research on it, and to me it looks like it says "2520". Which doesn't really make any sense to me..
(adjusting the levels and continuing the sentence, now it says "2520 SEE U", or "2520 SEELU", not sure. There's something between the E and U.)
Thank you angranity for making the picture any clearer. I see the 25 now and there seems to be written more next to it but I can't exactly see if these are numbers or letters.
Thank you angranity for showing where the 25 is - I haven't come back to this thread since I posted it...
Can you post the photo you made with Photoshop? Because - just as for allforlove - it's unclear to me whether there are letters or numbers there after the 25.
By the way, I don't really think it was done on purpose. As I said, maybe this is how a plough tractor works. I just found it interesting, that's all :)
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Thanks SO much for this info! It made me happy! :D Hope you didn't pay too much though.