Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: Guest on February 18, 2011, 09:52:09 PM

Title: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: Guest on February 18, 2011, 09:52:09 PM
[youtube:2l6anaog]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlju09WU86g&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:2l6anaog]
sources: http://www.movieline.com/2011/02/the-re ... php?page=1 (http://www.movieline.com/2011/02/the-return-of-the-moonwalker-the-german-michael-jackson-zombie-clown-movie-youve-been-waiting-for.php?page=1)

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: bec on February 18, 2011, 10:26:11 PM
Holy shit.

That trailer is random hoax reference after random hoax reference stacked start to 2:22 finish... it's perfect, it's satire, it's dark comedy, it's a big, silly, edgy joke... did Michael...?

I've officially lost my mind.
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: Liberian Girl Heehee on February 18, 2011, 10:37:00 PM
:shock:  8-)
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: RK on February 18, 2011, 10:46:15 PM
Oh my goodness. It's like someone read the forum from start to finish and wrote a satirical screen play from it.  :o  :shock:  :?  ;)
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: ignisaeternus on February 18, 2011, 10:46:56 PM
Ok..... :shock:

SO bizarre!
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: bec on February 18, 2011, 10:50:23 PM
Quote from: "RK"
Oh my goodness. It's like someone read the forum from start to finish and wrote a satirical screen play from it.  :o  :shock:  :?  ;)

Yeah, you said what I was trying to say. Exactly!
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: ignisaeternus on February 18, 2011, 10:55:04 PM
Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "RK"
Oh my goodness. It's like someone read the forum from start to finish and wrote a satirical screen play from it.  :o  :shock:  :?  ;)

Yeah, you said what I was trying to say. Exactly!

It certainly seems that way.
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: Guest on February 18, 2011, 10:55:58 PM
Quote from: "RK"
Oh my goodness. It's like someone read the forum from start to finish and wrote a satirical screen play from it.  :o  :shock:  :?  ;)
this is exactly what i thought, especially the part when the illusionist brought back michael to life :shock: But the clip is hilarious
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: RK on February 18, 2011, 11:04:18 PM
What gets me is the forgotten threads that seem referenced like when we were discussing Hitler and what MJ said to schmuzzley about him, the thread where TMZ posted the re-leaf center and the marijuana [ also found in carolwood drive], the little person and that pic that surfaced with Mike after Moonwalker movie wrap up drinking and partying with the two cuties on his lap. The count of monte cristo reference and all the religious symbolism. This has me just staring at my screen lost for words or coherent thought.
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: Andrea on February 18, 2011, 11:09:13 PM
Quote from: "bec"
Holy shit.

That trailer is random hoax reference after random hoax reference stacked start to 2:22 finish... it's perfect, it's satire, it's dark comedy, it's a big, silly, edgy joke... did Michael...?

I've officially lost my mind.

 :lol:  :lol:  That was totally my reaction too.
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: willddoMJ on February 18, 2011, 11:29:11 PM
sorry, not fan of that MJ in that video :?
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: bec on February 19, 2011, 12:17:13 AM
Because I am truly intrigued, remember Miss Castaway, and this film doesn't look quite as as low budget as they're making it out to be, I did some light research on this movie.

this post is long but worth the read if this trailer's coincidences are interesting to you.

Starting with,
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[Upon further investigation by Movieline, it appears that The Return of the Moonwalker, also known under the title The Cabinet of Dr. Cagliostro, filmed in Berlin last year under directors Mike Maria and Mike Moreau. More pics, courtesy of Stilfabrik, after the jump.]
http://www.movieline.com/2011/02/the-re ... php?page=1 (http://www.movieline.com/2011/02/the-return-of-the-moonwalker-the-german-michael-jackson-zombie-clown-movie-youve-been-waiting-for.php?page=1)

I Google searched "The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari" and found this:
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What famously complicates the tale is its frame. The entire story is being told by a young man who is not who he seems. And by the end of film we are no longer certain who is crazy and who is not.

The frame story in particular was attacked as a cliché that undermined a potentially daring attack on authority by turning everything into a madman's fantasy.

More recent studies, however, notably those by Richard Murphy, Paul Coates, and Catherine Clérmont, have stressed the extreme oddity of the story, its surprising quirkiness and complex Freudian overtones. For starters, one way Caligari distinguished itself from other expressionist films is that it's the only such film to link its preoccupation with the occult to psychoanalysis. Almost every German expressionist film concerns itself with the uncanny, ranging from Nosferatu, and Der Golem to Dr. Mabuse, the criminal mastermind who works through occult hypnotic powers, and Metropolis.

But Caligari's the only one to see occult, demonic aspects in psychiatry. And that combination has proven irresistible to Lacanian critics. Far from banal, Caligari's narrative has been perceived as a deconstructionist's delight, filled with peculiar doublings, repetitions, and character splits. It's a film that seems as schizophrenic as any of its characters, marked by a kind of decenteredness where it's impossible to distinguish insiders from outsiders, interiors from exteriors, masters from underlings. If the film takes on the character of a dream, it's not just because the frame story tells us it's all been a madman's fantasy. The main narrative itself is constantly hopping back and forth between rational, cause-effect sequences to fantastical dream-like events.  
http://qag.qld.gov.au/cinematheque/cine ... the_movies (http://qag.qld.gov.au/cinematheque/cinema_resources/2008/the_cabinet_of_dr._caligari_flogging_expressionism_in_the_movies)

Sounds familiar.

Apparently this movie is very historical sociologically. The things you learn while working the MJ death hoax...

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The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari: Flogging Expressionism in the Movies

Expressionism is famous as the first avant-garde art movement introduced to mass audiences through the movies, and Caligari is the film that opened the gates. It was made in the fall of 1919, produced on a modest budget at the tiny Lixi studio just outside Berlin, and from the beginning it became a site of a cultural and political battleground.

Nor was this accidental. Caligari had always been meant as a prestige item, designed as an alternative to Hollywood productions that were threatening to suffocate Germany's film industry.

<snip>

One look at the French, American, and British reviews of Caligari reveals how unfamiliar Expressionism was outside the confines of Germany and Austria, even as late as 1921. Although Caligari's sets immediately became the best-known and most often described aspect of the film, few critics knew what to call them. In American journals, they were usually called cubist, futurist, or [in the case of Carl Sandburg when he reviewed the film for the Chicago Daily News] post-impressionist. In France, they were considered examples of Art Nouveau, adapted from the Ballets Russes. Distributors and exhibitors, like daily newspaper reviewers, gave up altogether and called the film simply a novelty, or a 'spook film' to use the phrase favored by the Americans. Carl Sandberg thought Caligari's title should be changed to "Who's Loony Now?"

This link between Expressionism and horror quickly eclipsed the associations between Expressionism and the avant garde. It was Caligari’s distinctive creepiness that  became its most famous mark, particularly in the United States and in England where its weirdness became a point of departure for both the critics and advertizers. I can't say I've ever seen ads for a film quite like this. When Sam Goldwyn's company distributed the film in the United States, the trade ads included the warning: “BEWARE. This film is not suitable for audiences composed of women and children who seek recreation. It is morbidly unhealthy and leaves a bad impression on timorous natures." A theater in St. Louis was even more explicit: "We do not recommend this picture to nervous women or to anyone who may be easily frightened."

As a publicity stunt, Caligari's promoters in the little town of Pottstown PA made up red paper notes reading "Revenge - Cesare," attached them to bread knives and stuck them in the doors of a half-dozen of the town's leaders. The theater manager was arrested of course - that was the point - but pleaded he was under the spell of a sinister force when he etc.

While we're on the subject of American distribution, I might add that the film had a particularly colorful reception in California.

Frequently we ask about the "Function" of the decor in a film. One function of Caligari's expressionist setting was to label it unmistakably German. Goldwyn had tried to pass Caligari off simply as "Foreign" or "European" the same way that Paramount had successfully marketed Lubitsch's Passion the year before. But absolutely no one was fooled. And in California, this became a particular problem. No major theater chain would touch Caligari on the west coast, so in Los Angeles it opened in a small independent theater called Miller's where it lasted exactly one day. The American Legion, Actors' Equity, and the Directors Guild of America [Motion Picture Directors' Assn], egged on by the Hearst press, picketed the film and Caligari was immediately taken out of the theater. This triggered an unofficial ban on all foreign films across the west coast that lasted for four months. It only ended when Caligari surfaced again in San Francisco. The irony was that it was brought in as a last-minute substitute for the one film even more ferociously denounced than Caligari, Griffith's The Birth Of A Nation.
http://qag.qld.gov.au/cinematheque/cine ... the_movies (http://qag.qld.gov.au/cinematheque/cinema_resources/2008/the_cabinet_of_dr._caligari_flogging_expressionism_in_the_movies)

This gets better the more I read. The whole film is an illusion, down to the cinematography and even... the letters in the title  :shock:  :
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But it gets even trickier. If you conclude that the scene is actually illuminated by studio light – that is, artificial light - you need to look harder. The dominant light in this moonlight scene is not electrical; it's provided by sunlight and diffusers. Like much of the rest of the film, Alan's bedroom was filmed in a so-called greenhouse studio with glass roofs and walls. Moonlight, in other words, is being provided by sunlight. The idea that this is an interior space lit with real and fake artificial illumination is itself an illusion.

<snip>

We can start with the title itself, which contains a secret of its own. It is called Das Cabinet Des Dr. Caligari, where Cabinet most obviously refers to a room or chamber, a special room in a museum or in this case a fairground that houses a collection or attraction of this kind.

But Cabinet has other meanings that the filmmakers were careful to weave into their title, but which has inadvertently been lost through a strange case of mis-translation. Because Caligari is a German film, most commentators have instinctively spelled "Cabinet" with a K and two 't's. But as Murphy has argued, the film's original title, which can be seen here in an original poster, adopts the French and English spelling - [le] Cabinet, with a C and a single t. So that the word takes on a meaning which is lost in the German. The French 'Cabinet' is the office of a professional person, in this case the surgery of a Doctor. The most provocative meaning of cabinet, however, may be a third one, common to both the French and German: the cabinet as a side room, or an adjacent space.

Keep reading that link, it's too much to put here but basically, this movie is a 1919 TS style Mind Fuck.

In to the original report that the movie was remade as "Return of the Moonwalker" and filmed last year. Found several of these Help-Wanted ads:

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ZOMBIES/THRILLER WALKERS (BERLIN)
Looking for ZOMBIES/THRILLER WALKERS to perform live in a low-budget horror comedy to be filmed in Berlin in November/December:

"The Cabinet of Dr. Cagliostro", an anarchic comedy with an occult flair/"Rocky Horror meets Dr. Caligari".

Please direct enquiries to:

Mike Moreau

DeRam Filmproduktion
From De - 30+ days ago - 31 views
This job was posted 30+ days ago, and has expired.
http://www.germanyjobs77.com/ZOMBIES_TH ... 08294.html (http://www.germanyjobs77.com/ZOMBIES_THRILLER_WALKERS_BERLIN-1908294.html)

One more interesting fact about the film, this random guy's bio lists the film:
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Resume of Manoj Thomas
Currently residing in: Berlin: +xxxxxxxxxx
Email: xxxxxxxxxxxx.com

EMPLOYMENT BACKGROUND

2009/2010                       FREELANCER

Production Manager                         DeRam Productions, Berlin, Deutschland                                                    

Responsibilities and Achievements included:

·                90 min feature length film titled “Cabinet of Dr. cagliostro’.

·        Budgeting, scheduling and coordinating cast/crew

·        Tight 21 day film schedule at several historic locations in Berlin.
coincidence I'm sure, lol.

Looking further into the relevance of the movie and the plot... oh my my my:

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Philippa describes how she came to write the book with Robert L. D. Cooper [Dr. Richelle Cooper from UCLAER?] and from there she tells us about Count Alessandro Cagliostro, his life and his devotion to the Egyptian Rite of Freemasonry. Our conversation goes into depth regarding the meaning and implications of Cagliostro’s work. Notably, the story of Cagliostro highlights the anti-Masonic sentiments, or Masonophobia, that is still prevalent in some circles.

    “Miracle-worker or man of straw? Count Alessandro Cagliostro was a cult figure of European society in the tumultuous years leading to the French Revolution. An alchemist, healer, and Freemason, he inspired both wild devotion and savage ridicule…

    “Cagliostro’s sincere belief in the magical powers … conferred by his Egyptian Rite of Freemasonry won him fame, but made him dangerous enemies, too…

    “The Masonic Magician tells Cagliostro’s extraordinary story, complete with the first English translation of the Egyptian Rite ever published. The authors examine the case made against him, that he was an impostor as well as a heretic, and find that the Roman Church, and history itself, have done him a terrible injustice.

    “This engaging account, drawing on remarkable new documentary evidence, shows that the man condemned was a genuine visionary and true champion of Freemasonry. His teachings have much to reveal to us today not just of the secrets of Freemasonry, but of the mysterious hostility the movement continues to attract.
http://www.occultofpersonality.net/phil ... agliostro/ (http://www.occultofpersonality.net/philippa-faulks-and-count-cagliostro/)

I searched Mike Maria. The only relevant result is an actor (?) listed on IMDb:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2544248/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2544248/)

And the only Mike Moreau I can find is an NBA (basketball) player.

CraaaaAaaazy stuff, no?
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: RunFaYaLife on February 19, 2011, 12:31:45 AM
ehhh
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: SEHF on February 19, 2011, 02:20:43 AM
Anybody save the video? I didn't get to see it before it was removed..
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: curls on February 19, 2011, 02:39:37 AM
I saw it and personally found it rather disturbing. Not something I'd chose to watch, especially when even it's 'MJ' was creepy.
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 19, 2011, 02:46:20 AM
I didn't get to see it either, did someone download it?
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: elocin_mj on February 19, 2011, 02:49:55 AM
watched it on Youtube...One word....WEIRD....
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: scorpionchik on February 19, 2011, 03:23:42 AM
video is removed because of violation of youtube policy of nudity and sexual content :(
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 19, 2011, 03:30:32 AM
Here is the 1919 version. Will watch it when I come home tonight, sounds interesting.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 3227284081 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8455250375270835043#docid=-411719693227284081)
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: MashMike on February 19, 2011, 03:31:15 AM
i think the fans have reported it for several times that's why it's gone now
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 19, 2011, 03:50:50 AM
Okay, found the video elsewhere:

http://studio.wp.pl/i,TheReturnoftheMoo ... caid=1bcf3 (http://studio.wp.pl/i,TheReturnoftheMoonwalker-zwiastun,mid,1130072,wideo.html?ticaid=1bcf3)
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: Guest on February 19, 2011, 05:08:59 AM
god, im wanna see this movie so bad :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: MJonmind on February 19, 2011, 05:28:01 AM
Thanks Imred and Souza!
I agree, totally weird like Lady Gaga directed it somehow. It's not my cup of tea really, but on the other hand it shows some creativity and does have elements of topics we discussed here in this forum. It is twisted and dark satire. Do we really know what amused Michael? He was/is pretty sharp and intelligent and likes controversial/provocative complex plots/ideas. Remember the Casket Guy? That was dark. Michael did say he thought Lady Gaga had talent, enough to want her to be in his TII opening act. Many would say that when Michael performed on stage he was very sexual in his lyrics and body movements, and blasphemous in imitation of Jesus Christ. This is quite interesting, hoax-wise, and probably needs more investigating.
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: ForstAMoon on February 19, 2011, 06:04:30 AM
oh, gosh, is this for real  :shock:  :lol:  :o

http://www.returnofthemoonwalker.com/moonwalker2.html (http://www.returnofthemoonwalker.com/moonwalker2.html)

http://www.stilfabrik.at/cagliostro/cagliostro.html (http://www.stilfabrik.at/cagliostro/cagliostro.html)
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: trustno1 on February 19, 2011, 07:06:58 AM
:shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

Bizarre with a capital B!
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: fordtocarr on February 19, 2011, 07:58:21 AM
That IN MY OPINION, was AWFUL.   It made me cry.  It was sickening and disgusting.  Some people must've read out comments and then blew them up into this degrading piece of evil.
Who the hell are these people that made this?  And WHY?  It seriously is not a trailer for an actual film is it??
ugh....
ugh...
ugh..
my opinions
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: mjmyangelbaby on February 19, 2011, 09:40:51 AM
very disgusting who would do something like this  I wonder if there's a way of finding out where it came from
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: bec on February 19, 2011, 11:19:58 AM
What's disgusting about it?

The gay midget sex?

I noticed that they never made fun of Michael.

Ps. and yes it appears to be 100% for real.
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: becca26 on February 19, 2011, 11:45:28 AM
I thought I heard them making fun saying that they were 12yr old boys. :?  I just felt that it was it bit of a piss take :(
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: fordtocarr on February 19, 2011, 11:49:18 AM
Why show that stuff in relation to Michael?  Like is SAID it is my opinion.
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: chloead505 on February 19, 2011, 11:49:33 AM
Very strange...

Did you notice the eye and the pyramid? It's too obvious to be a random image.
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: allforlove on February 19, 2011, 11:53:23 AM
Don't know what to think about this video.I didn't like it very much. :cry:
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: mac5k on February 19, 2011, 12:48:39 PM
Quite sarcastic isn'it ? Can we say auto derision ... TMZ please waiting for your opinion ! Why nothing published yet about this movie     :?:  ;)
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: lynnandsofee on February 19, 2011, 01:04:51 PM
That is totally disgusting
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: Yambo3003 on February 19, 2011, 01:17:33 PM
I have a bad feeling about this....
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: Cameron on February 19, 2011, 01:55:18 PM
Don't think Mj is linked with the movie, because it's really weird.
But, the film has a good theme: "revolution", "new world order", a other MJ alive... so if he's linked, I would not be surprised, it's also like a tale, a weird one, and it's can be MJ's creation.
Finally, I don't know what to think. :D
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: MashMike on February 19, 2011, 01:59:39 PM
After watching it i feel sick, dunno what 2 say, i'm more than sure it has nothing to do with MJ and his death hoax, it was disgusting :| and creepy
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: Mj5StarChick on February 19, 2011, 02:08:41 PM
WTF?! :shock:  :o
That was soooo creepy :o !
Very weird....not sure if this has to do with the hoax but...nothing surprises me anymore :shock:
I have to admit the end was kinda funny :lol: .... :?  :shock:
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: anewfan on February 19, 2011, 02:11:31 PM
That was disturbing.
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: Guest on February 19, 2011, 02:15:44 PM
Quote from: "Mj5StarChick"
WTF?! :shock:  :o
That was soooo creepy :o !
Very weird....not sure if this has to do with the hoax but...nothing surprises me anymore :shock:
I have to admit the end was kinda funny :lol: .... :?  :shock:
im glad you have sense of humor  :?  :lol:
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: AnaMarcia on February 19, 2011, 02:34:02 PM
I don't like!
This are terrible taste.
I think it is not the style of Michael!
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on February 19, 2011, 02:40:36 PM
What the hell is this?
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: scorpionchik on February 19, 2011, 03:06:06 PM
INMO it is funny, stupid, silly video.
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: ROFL on February 19, 2011, 03:18:03 PM
This Mj asks : "why did they want to murder me? "
The other dude answers : ".. society, they want to control all of man kind to create the so called new world order"
MJ : "the change has come"
And then I noticed an eye with the pyramid
lol @ the ending
hmm this video is ... weird, looks like a parody, rofl.
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on February 19, 2011, 04:39:44 PM
This Mj asking : "why did they want to murder me? " sounded like MJ  :shock: he even had similar lips... I got goosebumps...
The rest was disgusting....  :?
I wonder if it was approved by the Estate... is it possible to check it somehow??  :?
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: happythoughts on February 19, 2011, 06:01:36 PM
Guys, I don't care what you say... This is hilarious. They definitely read this page when they thought of this movie :D   I feel like those clowns are like his fans, in the beginning of the clip they are chanting "yes he can" in support of him and then at the end it looks like they save him.


Favorite quote:
"Whoever controls Michael Jackson, conrtols the masses."
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 19, 2011, 06:07:36 PM
I am going to watch The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1919) now. I'll let you know.
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: fordtocarr on February 19, 2011, 06:24:52 PM
Is this suppose to be a full length film?  I can't find anything on the film company at all...nothing.  Anyone got some info?
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: PureLove on February 19, 2011, 06:49:59 PM
Ohh shit what the hell was that? One of my worst nightmares? :lol:
That's so creepy, disturbing but also very interesting how they related MJ's so called death with illuminati. I would love to watch this movie as well. And :lol: at the ending part.
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: bec on February 19, 2011, 07:29:33 PM
Quote from: "fordtocarr"
Is this suppose to be a full length film?  I can't find anything on the film company at all...nothing.  Anyone got some info?

Well it really was filmed apparently since this page: http://www.germanyjobs77.com/q-cabinet- ... in-germany (http://www.germanyjobs77.com/q-cabinet-maker-jobs-in-berlin-germany) which is at least posing as a German job search site, is full of old, expired ads for positions associated with the filming of it.

Here's some of the ads, I already posted one but no one reads long posts so I understand:
http://www.germanyjobs77.com/Special_Ef ... 23913.html (http://www.germanyjobs77.com/Special_Effects_Makeup_Artist_Berlin-2023913.html)
http://www.germanyjobs77.com/African_dr ... 14529.html (http://www.germanyjobs77.com/African_drummers_wanted_Berlin-1914529.html)
http://www.germanyjobs77.com/ZOMBIES_TH ... 08294.html (http://www.germanyjobs77.com/ZOMBIES_THRILLER_WALKERS_BERLIN-1908294.html)
http://www.germanyjobs77.com/Looking_fo ... 72153.html (http://www.germanyjobs77.com/Looking_for_Costume_Designer_and_Prop_Master_Berlin-972153.html)

there's more, all for the same employer, this Mike Moreau guy.

Obviously his name reminds one of the book by H.G. Wells: The Island of Dr. Moreau; the story of a mad scientist who is experimenting with animal/human hybrids in the attempt to create a divine human race, but surely that's just a coincidence.

Please notice the site on which the Job ads for making the movie are posted on is called: GermanyJobs77, yet all the postings are in English.

It just occurred to me, everyone is familiar with MJ's movie Miss Castaway, right?
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: Loes on February 19, 2011, 07:57:20 PM
They removed the youtube ...  :roll:

Now I can't watch it ...  :(

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: PureLove on February 19, 2011, 09:43:23 PM
Quote from: "Loes"
They removed the youtube ...  :roll:

Now I can't watch it ...  :(

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)

Souza found the video elsewhere and she made this post on the first page of this thread.

Quote from: "~Souza~"
Okay, found the video elsewhere:

http://studio.wp.pl/i,TheReturnoftheMoo ... caid=1bcf3 (http://studio.wp.pl/i,TheReturnoftheMoonwalker-zwiastun,mid,1130072,wideo.html?ticaid=1bcf3)
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: Pheebzz on February 20, 2011, 02:50:48 PM
Here is the official website with Trailer
http://returnofthemoonwalker.com/moonwalker2.html (http://returnofthemoonwalker.com/moonwalker2.html)
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on February 20, 2011, 02:53:34 PM
Is this legit? Like will it REALLY be a movie? :shock:

After watching the trailer again, whoever is playing Michael, sounds a lot like the guy who played Michael in "Man in the Mirror: The Michael Jackson Story"  :shock:
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: Pheebzz on February 20, 2011, 02:58:22 PM
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
Is this legit? Like will it REALLY be a movie? :shock:

After watching the trailer again, whoever is playing Michael, sounds a lot like the guy who played Michael in "Man in the Mirror: The Michael Jackson Story"  :shock:

To me it seems this it will be a Low Budget Movie. Very weird...
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on February 20, 2011, 03:14:41 PM
Hey low budget movie or not, they are taking everything we have been investigating in this forum, and are putting it into a movie.  Illuminati, NWO, everything has been said into that trailer. In order to do a movie they have to have some facts proof, if not they can get sewed. I am happy finally something will happen soon.

P.S. I should add Michael may be the director and producer of this movie  ;)
 Blessings.
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on February 20, 2011, 04:14:51 PM
Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "fordtocarr"
Is this suppose to be a full length film?  I can't find anything on the film company at all...nothing.  Anyone got some info?

Well it really was filmed apparently since this page: http://www.germanyjobs77.com/q-cabinet- ... in-germany (http://www.germanyjobs77.com/q-cabinet-maker-jobs-in-berlin-germany) which is at least posing as a German job search site, is full of old, expired ads for positions associated with the filming of it.

Here's some of the ads, I already posted one but no one reads long posts so I understand:
http://www.germanyjobs77.com/Special_Ef ... 23913.html (http://www.germanyjobs77.com/Special_Effects_Makeup_Artist_Berlin-2023913.html)
http://www.germanyjobs77.com/African_dr ... 14529.html (http://www.germanyjobs77.com/African_drummers_wanted_Berlin-1914529.html)
http://www.germanyjobs77.com/ZOMBIES_TH ... 08294.html (http://www.germanyjobs77.com/ZOMBIES_THRILLER_WALKERS_BERLIN-1908294.html)
http://www.germanyjobs77.com/Looking_fo ... 72153.html (http://www.germanyjobs77.com/Looking_for_Costume_Designer_and_Prop_Master_Berlin-972153.html)

there's more, all for the same employer, this Mike Moreau guy.

Obviously his name reminds one of the book by H.G. Wells: The Island of Dr. Moreau; the story of a mad scientist who is experimenting with animal/human hybrids in the attempt to create a divine human race, but surely that's just a coincidence.

Please notice the site on which the Job ads for making the movie are posted on is called: GermanyJobs77, yet all the postings are in English.

It just occurred to me, everyone is familiar with MJ's movie Miss Castaway, right?
I agree with the name connection. I wrote about Dr. Moreau before but it was in a different context. Read more here: viewtopic.php?f=78&t=16060&p=272736 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=16060&p=272736)

Yes Miss Castaway was as cheesy as you can get but still get out a powerful message.  :mrgreen:

We just have to look past the distrubing dark comedy in the Return of the Moonwalker and pull out ALL the relevant info. This film is spilling beans on the hoax and serious issues. They are addressing it in a way that will entice people to take a look. Our world is that sick and twisted. This film is a reflection of real shit in our world.  8-)

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Im_convincedmjalive wrote:
In the episode about Plum Island it is believed that animal mutations are being formed on the island and that this thing found was from hybrid mutations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montauk_Monster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montauk_Monster)
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The "Montauk Monster" was an unidentified creature that allegedly washed ashore, dead, on a beach near the business district of Montauk, New York, in July 2008. The identity of the creature, and the veracity of stories surrounding it, have been the subject of unresolved controversy and speculation. The current consensus, based on dental patterns and details of the front paws, is that it was a raccoon
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Im_convincedmjalive wrote:
This was found this year. See below.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl (http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl) ... nders.html
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Move over Montauk Monster. This time it's not a dead animal washing up on the beach down the road from the Plum Island Animal Disease Center, it's a human body washed ashore at the facility


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Im_convincedmjalive wrote:
That reminds me of The movie Dr. Moreau based on the novel.They have told us they are doing this shit through the movies they put in our faces.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Island) ... tor_Moreau

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Adaptations
The novel has been made into a movie on three occasions:

Island of Lost Souls (1933 film) with Charles Laughton and Bela Lugosi.
The Island of Dr. Moreau (1977 film) with Burt Lancaster and Michael York.
This was turned into a novel by Joseph Silva and published by Ace.
The Island of Dr. Moreau (1996 film) with Marlon Brando and Val Kilmer
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: bluegurl201 on February 26, 2011, 01:23:20 PM
:shock:  :shock:  :shock:
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: fordtocarr on February 26, 2011, 03:13:52 PM
Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"
Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "fordtocarr"
Is this suppose to be a full length film?  I can't find anything on the film company at all...nothing.  Anyone got some info?

Well it really was filmed apparently since this page: http://www.germanyjobs77.com/q-cabinet- ... in-germany (http://www.germanyjobs77.com/q-cabinet-maker-jobs-in-berlin-germany) which is at least posing as a German job search site, is full of old, expired ads for positions associated with the filming of it.

Here's some of the ads, I already posted one but no one reads long posts so I understand:
http://www.germanyjobs77.com/Special_Ef ... 23913.html (http://www.germanyjobs77.com/Special_Effects_Makeup_Artist_Berlin-2023913.html)
http://www.germanyjobs77.com/African_dr ... 14529.html (http://www.germanyjobs77.com/African_drummers_wanted_Berlin-1914529.html)
http://www.germanyjobs77.com/ZOMBIES_TH ... 08294.html (http://www.germanyjobs77.com/ZOMBIES_THRILLER_WALKERS_BERLIN-1908294.html)
http://www.germanyjobs77.com/Looking_fo ... 72153.html (http://www.germanyjobs77.com/Looking_for_Costume_Designer_and_Prop_Master_Berlin-972153.html)

there's more, all for the same employer, this Mike Moreau guy.

Obviously his name reminds one of the book by H.G. Wells: The Island of Dr. Moreau; the story of a mad scientist who is experimenting with animal/human hybrids in the attempt to create a divine human race, but surely that's just a coincidence.

Please notice the site on which the Job ads for making the movie are posted on is called: GermanyJobs77, yet all the postings are in English.

It just occurred to me, everyone is familiar with MJ's movie Miss Castaway, right?
I agree with the name connection. I wrote about Dr. Moreau before but it was in a different context. Read more here: viewtopic.php?f=78&t=16060&p=272736 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=16060&p=272736)

Yes Miss Castaway was as cheesy as you can get but still get out a powerful message.  :mrgreen:

We just have to look past the distrubing dark comedy in the Return of the Moonwalker and pull out ALL the relevant info. This film is spilling beans on the hoax and serious issues. They are addressing it in a way that will entice people to take a look. Our world is that sick and twisted. This film is a reflection of real shit in our world.  8-)

I'm sure that's true, but, you know, I just get really sick of hearing and seeing stuff in connection to Michael that is just plain sickening and ignorant.  It seems like a time to spread beauty and LOVE in his name, goodness and good works, not dwell on the wicked imaginings of the evil people.  But, it's Michael's way right now.  I just chose to ignore what hurts me, and that stuff does, and I know it hurt/hurts him more, but he can deal with it!!! lol  and I guess ISSSSS.

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Im_convincedmjalive wrote:
In the episode about Plum Island it is believed that animal mutations are being formed on the island and that this thing found was from hybrid mutations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montauk_Monster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montauk_Monster)
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The "Montauk Monster" was an unidentified creature that allegedly washed ashore, dead, on a beach near the business district of Montauk, New York, in July 2008. The identity of the creature, and the veracity of stories surrounding it, have been the subject of unresolved controversy and speculation. The current consensus, based on dental patterns and details of the front paws, is that it was a raccoon
Quote
Im_convincedmjalive wrote:
This was found this year. See below.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl (http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl) ... nders.html
Quote
Move over Montauk Monster. This time it's not a dead animal washing up on the beach down the road from the Plum Island Animal Disease Center, it's a human body washed ashore at the facility


Quote
Im_convincedmjalive wrote:
That reminds me of The movie Dr. Moreau based on the novel.They have told us they are doing this shit through the movies they put in our faces.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Island) ... tor_Moreau

Quote
Adaptations
The novel has been made into a movie on three occasions:

Island of Lost Souls (1933 film) with Charles Laughton and Bela Lugosi.
The Island of Dr. Moreau (1977 film) with Burt Lancaster and Michael York.
This was turned into a novel by Joseph Silva and published by Ace.
The Island of Dr. Moreau (1996 film) with Marlon Brando and Val Kilmer
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: XspeechlessX on February 28, 2011, 05:36:48 PM
Okay.. not gona lie.. watching that at 12 at night on my own was a bad idea.
Not a clue what the reasoning behind it is but that scared the crap outa me!!
What the hell is going on with this?!  :shock:
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: Mj5StarChick on March 01, 2011, 10:27:09 PM
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
Is this legit? Like will it REALLY be a movie? :shock:

After watching the trailer again, whoever is playing Michael, sounds a lot like the guy who played Michael in "Man in the Mirror: The Michael Jackson Story"  :shock:
I doubt that's Flex but it did sound like him :?  
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: voiceforthesilent on March 01, 2011, 11:42:23 PM
Quote from: "bluegurl201"
:shock:  :shock:  :shock:

 :lol:  :lol: I'm with you...
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: momof3kids on March 02, 2011, 11:09:29 AM
Jacko Stew????   :evil:  I did not like this trailer......I found it very disturbing and I really wish that I hadn't seen it.  I thought it was awful!
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: bec on March 02, 2011, 11:20:17 AM
[youtube:1o65oeyv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVaGHgS-vP8[/youtube:1o65oeyv]

Everyone needs to watch this again. Talk about an eye opener.

http://www.misscastaway.com/ (http://www.misscastaway.com/) !!! Dodo on the movie poster!!!
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: bec on March 02, 2011, 11:26:33 AM
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Enter to win a FREE Mr. Dodo from the movie! 50 dodos to give away!!! Click here to win!!!!

http://www.misscastaway.com/ (http://www.misscastaway.com/)

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The comedic story of "Miss Cast Away" takes off like a 747 when a plane load of beauty contestants are transported from the United States to Japan for the Miss Galaxy Pageant. Unfortunately, the flight goes awry when the plane goes off course and crash lands on a deserted island. There, the castaways make an unusual discovery - - they find Noah's Ark! With the Ark guarded by a prehistoric pig (Jurassic Pork) and Noah kidnapped by Apes (ala Planet of The Apes), the castaways must devise a plan of rescue and escape.

This in-your-face comedy has been described as "Baywatch" meets "Airplane!" and it spoofs today's biggest blockbuster films including "Miss Congeniality," "Cast Away," "Austin Powers" "Men In Black," "Planet of the Apes," "Jurassic Park," "Lord of the Rings," "Wizard of Oz," "Indiana Jones: Raiders of the Lost Arc" and "Mission Impossible!"

"Miss Cast Away" stars Academy Award nominee Eric Roberts, Charlie Schlatter ("Diagnosis Murder," "Police Academy"), Evan Marriott (star of "Joe Millionaire"), Stuart Pankin ("Honey, We Shrunk Ourselves," "I Love Trouble"), Joyce Giraud (runner up to Miss Universe), and Playboy's 50th Anniversary playmate Colleen Shannon.

AND . . . in a rare and unique film appearance, pop superstar MICHAEL JACKSON is featured as secret Agent M.J. who's sent in a beam of light to help guide the castaways to their ultimate rescue.

Fasten your seatbelts for . . . "Miss Cast Away"
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: RK on March 02, 2011, 11:29:49 AM
50 dodos to give away. 50 parts in the play that  Prince and Paris auditioned for. more and more coincidences.
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: bec on March 02, 2011, 11:38:05 AM
[youtube:22cytfc3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdoUlInSTrs[/youtube:22cytfc3]
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: jacilovesmichael on March 02, 2011, 12:22:04 PM
What in the f-ing f!!!! Hahaha. I don't know what to think of that movie preview... yes some of it was disturbing but at the same time I feel like some of the things that were aimed at Michael could have only come from him himself...who would make a movie that ruthless about the most famous man in the world and expect people not to get mad? I don't know, I can see both sides. I just feel like we can't really say what Michael would or wouldn't do... obviously he faked his own death and most the world thinks he would never do that....so who's to say he wouldn't be apart of a project like this?

The All-Seeing Eye, the marijuana, the "breaking news", the crazies who think MJ is going to save the world............. obviously it's hoax related it's just a matter of who created it and why.

And Miss Castaway makes so much more sense to me now than it did back when I saw it.

My mind is blown as usual.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: momof3kids on March 02, 2011, 12:54:10 PM
The Return of the Moonwalker, to me, looks like they are just making fun of Michael Jackson for the sake of the movie.......they were making 'jacko stew', they made fun of his skin disease, AND made a 12 year old reference all in the few minutes which we were shown.   If it's not part of the hoax, I hope the estate does all it can to stop the release of it.......................
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: Sinderella on March 07, 2011, 04:49:54 AM
I was reading about it here
http://www.zombiezonenews.com/archives/the-return-of-the-moonwalker-german-michael-jackson-zombie-movie/

Good point,instead of 'forcing out and starving' Jermaine's ex wife why don't they use their efforts,power,time and protect his legacy/image/name/kids like they are supposed to do/get paid to do.

Rage.
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: rag doll on March 13, 2011, 05:24:42 AM
Hmm.... um....  :o  :?  SUBVERSIVE & WICKED!   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Well, I for one can´t deny a peculiar fascination after seeing it once, but I think I`ll have to watch it again to grasp its full scope. They should present it at the „Weekend of Fear“ film festival - it would definitely be a shoo–in.  

„And the Golden Glibb  in the catogory „Obscure“ goes to..... Mike Moreau!“    :P  8-)
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: Kristina4LOVE on April 02, 2011, 11:28:41 AM
STOP THE MOVIE RETURN OF THE MOONWALKER!!! NOW!!!!

http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/r ... moonwalker (http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/returnothemoonwalker)
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: fordtocarr on April 02, 2011, 11:30:22 AM
signed it....
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: Kristina4LOVE on April 02, 2011, 11:36:29 AM
Thank you!
We must get as many people as possible to sign it. This movie is disgusting!
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: maninthemoon on April 02, 2011, 12:24:39 PM
I don't think this has anything to do with the hoax.

Once again this reminds me more and more of the false media reports on Michael's child molesting. This is a movie made by haters who misunderstood Michael Jackson and want to destroy him forever. Seriously.

I don't like the video, it's not cool at all. :(
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: allforlove on April 02, 2011, 12:37:26 PM
Signed the petition too.
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: StrangerInCalifornia on April 02, 2011, 01:05:54 PM
:lol:  :lol: This thing has me slightly intrigued. I feel pretty confident in saying that Michael probably didint have anything to do with this but you never know....us virgos have a very strange sense of humor lol.
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: rag doll on May 23, 2011, 02:35:40 AM
Are there any further news about this movie and its release date?
Unlike some others here I`d really like to see it... :D
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: Grace on September 23, 2011, 01:54:00 PM
This is another link since the trailer will "return soon" on their homepage.
http://www.stilfabrik.at/features/return-of-the-moonwalker/#pix (http://www.stilfabrik.at/features/return-of-the-moonwalker/#pix)

The movie is going to be released in Germany on Dec 1, 2011.

The trailer is hard stuff, but some of the voice splits sound like Michael, the topics are Michael's.
The message is "trouble maker", "undead", "return" and "change" (and throwing bombs -> hand grenades).

The surrounding story is dark, the whispers are coming across only to those who listen.
It is horror night, giving some British black humour, still it is not 100% terrible but also funny.

Mike Maria is actor, producer, director and writer (post-production only - just like Mike Moreau).
So who is the producer ?

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do you like b-movies and terry gilliam style-films, do you somehow like michael jackson, freakshows and zombies? take all that, lump it together and you’ve got the return of the moonwalker, a german-american co-production and one of the most promising films this year.

http://frrzzz.wordpress.com/2011/02/22/moonwalker/ (http://frrzzz.wordpress.com/2011/02/22/moonwalker/)


The homepage says: "trailer returning soon".
A trailer is announcing a major piece of art coming later.
http://www.returnofthemoonwalker.com/moonwalker2.html (http://www.returnofthemoonwalker.com/moonwalker2.html)

 ;)

Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: rag doll on May 17, 2012, 03:17:37 PM
Today I found some more informations about it on their official homepage. There´s even a pretty interesting (and still more amusing) interview that mentions the Hoax...    :icon_eek:

Return of the Moonwalker - Reviews (http://www.returnofthemoonwalker.com/reviews.html)

I still haven`t seen it yet and even if it seems that I´m the only one interested in this gem of independent cinema, I still thought I post it here for all of you to enjoy. Who knows? Maybe there´s anybody else out there in Hoaxieland with refined taste and a distinguished sense of humour...   :icon_e_wink:
And for all those who may secretly assume that the subject "vertically-challenged people in leather costumes" is appealing to me - you´re darn right!   :icon_lol: :icon_razz: :icon_lol:





Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: rag doll on January 22, 2013, 01:27:41 PM
Hello again, I haven`t been here in ages - wow- and still haven`t seen the movie yet! Are there any news.... or a possibliilty to bring it to my hometown movie festival?
Please pm me in case you know something new... thank you in advance! :icon_e_smile:
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: MJonmind on January 22, 2013, 04:03:41 PM
This was enjoyable to revisit and watch, and definitely Michaelish!

Happythoughts
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Favorite quote:
"Whoever controls Michael Jackson, conrtols the masses."
:icon_lol:
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: warrior999 on February 03, 2013, 11:53:30 AM
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WTF?! <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->  <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->
That was soooo creepy <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> !
Very weird....not sure if this has to do with the hoax but...nothing surprises me anymore <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
I have to admit the end was kinda funny <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> .... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->  <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->


Like the shock u got that fiiiiinnnnnnnnallllly the peoples Champ (and a great MJ Fan) has come back home where he belongs and finally the CHAMP is here so know ur role and dont worry be happy so like MJ maybe ur punk get it back soon who knows long road to wm still :icon_geek: :icon_geek: :thjajaja121: :bearhug: :LolLolLolLol: :TongueOutSmiley: :michael-jackson: :multiplespotting: :moonwalk_: :smiley-vault-misc-150: :-* :) 8) :icon_rr:
Title: Re: The Return of the Moonwalker
Post by: warrior999 on February 03, 2013, 11:57:11 AM
But seriously i think the clip also weird disgusting respectless could be made by some haters  strange  and difficult :omg: :over-react-smiley: :WTF: :icon_question: :icon_evil: :icon_e_sad: :icon_eek: :omg: >:( :-[ :michael-jackson: :moonwalk_: :icon_mad: :WTF:

like the questionable things from the scary movies in less then 2 of these movies the make crap of with him not funny at all haha hihi or what like stupid eminem video disrespect none the less. :icon_evil: >:(
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