Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => TIAI => The Plan (Qanon, TIAI, BACK) => TIAI & TS Discussions => Topic started by: Serenitys_Dream on December 07, 2010, 06:54:27 AM
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So here is the post I started but never posted. You tell me what it all means...
I haven't been posting much lately because I have been trying to come to grips with the mixed feelings that I have recently been experiencing about many aspects of the investigation. Quite a bit of my concerns are related to TIAI. I have written several posts on this topic, to only delete them before posting but I just want to finally put this out there.
I have been investigating Michael's death hoax since the very beginning and I remember when the TIAI redirections first started do you? Either way let me remind you.
An article was published in the comedy section of "The Huffington Post" that suggested that Sony was going to be making a sequel to the movie "This Is It" and it was going to be entitled "This Is Also It". The article was written by Andy Borowitz a comedian.
Sony to Release This Is It Sequel, This Is Also It
Posted: October 28, 2009 - Andy Borowitz
Celebrating the box office returns of its posthumous Michael Jackson film This Is It, Sony Pictures announced today that it would release a sequel titled This Is Also It.
"When we put together This Is It, we thought it was it, but it turns out it wasn't it," said Sony spokesperson Carol Foyler.
The success of the Jackson film -- along with the debut of a startling DirecTV ad starring the late Chris Farley and the continuing airing of commercials starring the late Billy Mays -- has sent entertainment industry insiders scrambling to exploit the careers of other dead celebrities.
"Dead is the new black," said Buddy Schlantz, a talent agent and longtime observer of the Hollywood scene. "Walter Cronkite can write his own ticket now."
Elsewhere, the FAA said that airline passengers should be concerned if their pilot attempts to friend them during a flight. here.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/sony-to-release-this-is-i_b_337576.html
So this was not a serious story at all and I highly doubt that Andy Borowitz is involved in the hoax. After this article was published, many people thought it was serious that there was going to be a sequel to TII. They started putting "This Is Also It" into google and web address bars and TIAI as we know it was discovered. It redirected almost daily and the believers where intrigued. Many of us followed it faithfully. My question here though is, since there never was a sequel planned with this title, the story was a satirical one, and the writer has no involvement in the hoax...what does this mean for the TIAI we find ourselves following today? How could they have known that Borowitz would write this article? Did TS just take advantage of an article that had been written to put forth their own agenda, their theories? Are we being manipulated because of so many believing this story at first or is there something else going on here?
I also read a while back that there is some kind of connection between this site and the Huffington Post (Bad Kolo?). I didn't understand what that was all about and never gave it a second thought until now, because this article, about TIAI, was originally in the Huffington Post. I am not trying to start anything here but I am really wrestling with understanding what is going on and I refuse to just blindly be led in a direction that may not be the one that Michael intended.
Andy Borowitz
Andy Borowitz is a comedian and satirist who won the first National Press Club award for humor, and is known for creating the satirical website the Borowitz Report.
In the late 1990s, Borowitz began e-mailing humorous fake news stories to friends. In 2001, he founded the Borowitz Report, a site that posts one 250-word news satire every weekday. The site led to greater fame and widespread attention for Borowitz as a political satirist. The Wall Street Journal devoted a page one story to him and his site in 2003 and readership ultimately grew to the millions. In 2005 the newspaper syndicator Creators Syndicate began syndicating The Borowitz Report to dozens of major newspapers including The Los Angeles Times, The Seattle Times and The Philadelphia Inquirer. It is also one of the longest-running features at the Newsweek website. He has served as a commentator on the National Public Radio programs Weekend Edition Sunday and Wait Wait… Don't Tell Me!, the latter on November 12, 2006. Borowitz is also a regular contributor to humor newspaper Funny Times.
In 2007 he started blogging for the progressive blog The Huffington Post. His posts were featured on the home page of the blog and quickly became one of its most popular features. His popularity surged during the 2008 campaign, leading The Daily Beast to call him "America's satire king."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Borowitz
More Michael Jackson satirical stories by Andy Borowitz
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/people-who-never-met-mich_b_221405.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/cnn-michael-jacksons-deat_b_267516.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/world-eagerly-awaits-end_b_226568.html
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0305/borowitz033005.php3
http://www.borowitzreport.com/2006/10/03/jacko-running-for-foleys-seat/
The Borowitz Report
http://www.borowitzreport.com/ (http://www.borowitzreport.com/)
The Huffington Post
The Huffington Post is a American news website and content aggregating blog founded by Arianna Huffington, Kenneth Lerer, and Jonah Peretti, featuring various news sources and columnists. The site offers coverage of politics, media, business, entertainment, living, style, the green movement, world news, and comedy, and has news, blogs, and original content. The Huffington Post was launched on May 9, 2005, as a commentary outlet and alternative to news websites like the Drudge Report.
In 2008, the site launched its first local version, HuffPost Chicago; HuffPost New York launched in June, 2009, HuffPost Denver launched on September 15, 2009, and HuffPost Los Angeles launched on December 2, 2009. The Huffington Post has an active community, with over one million comments made on the site each month. Prior to The Huffington Post, Huffington hosted a website called Ariannaonline.com. Her first foray into the Internet was a website called Resignation.com, which called for the resignation of President Bill Clinton and was a rallying place for conservatives opposing Clinton.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Huffington_Post
Jonah Peretti
Jonah Peretti, whom the New York Times called the "viral marketing hotdog," is an Internet entrepreneur and a founder of BuzzFeed and Huffington Post.
A graduate of the MIT Media Lab, Peretti is best known for his experiments with "contagious" or "viral" media, including the parody website BlackPeopleLoveUs.com, which enthusiastically documents a couple's rapport among the African-American community, and a widely-forwarded email thread known as the Nike Sweatshop Emails in which Peretti exchanges politesse with an anonymous Nike representative over why "sweatshop" was not allowed to be printed on his custom Nike iD sneakers. Peretti is member of the New York based artist group Free Art and Technology Lab (a.k.a. FAT Lab). Peretti is married to Andrea Harner and lives in New York City. He is also the brother of standup comedian Chelsea Peretti.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonah_Peretti
Kenneth Lerer
Kenneth Lerer is an American businessman and media executive. He is the chairman and co-founder of The Huffington Post, a liberal/progressive American news website and content aggregating blog, headquartered in New York. He is the General Partner of Lerer Media Ventures, an angel fund in New York City, Vice-Chairman of Betaworks and Chairman of BuzzFeed. He is a past Executive Vice President of AOL Time Warner (TMZ's parent company) and was a founding partner of New York based corporate communications firm Robinson, Lerer, and Montgomery.
Lerer has taught at the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism, University of Pennsylvania and New York University, where he taught courses on the media and American corporations. He served as Chairman of the Public Theater in New York for 10 years, and is now its Chairman Emeritus . He is also on the boards of HealthRight International, the Association to Benefit Children, and the Bank Street College of Education. He has two children: a son, Benjamin, who started an online men's newsletter called Thrillist.com and is also a General Partner in Lerer Media Ventures; and a daughter, Isabel. He and his wife Katherine Sailer are active fundraisers for the Democratic party. According to the New York Times, on April 9, 2007, they co-hosted a $2,300/plate fundraiser for Barack Obama at their Central Park West apartment in New York.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Lerer
Robinson Lerer & Montgomery
Robinson Lerer & Montgomery is a strategic, corporate and financial communications firm that provides counsel and support to leading companies and institutions around the world. The firm has managed some of the most complex, high-profile communications challenges of the last three decades.
http://www.rlmnet.com/
Arianna Huffington
Arianna Huffington (born Arianna Stassinopoulos on July 15, 1950) is a Greek-American author and syndicated columnist. She is best known as co-founder of the news website The Huffington Post. A popular conservative commentator in the mid-1990s, she switched to liberalism in the late 1990s. She is the ex-wife of former Republican congressman Michael Huffington.
In 2003, she ran as an independent candidate for Governor in the California recall election. In 2009, Huffington was named as number 12 in Forbes's first ever list of the Most Influential Women In Media. She has also moved up to number 42 in the Guardian's Top 100 in Media List
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianna_Huffington
Arianna Huffington is a columnist, web publisher, and frequent presence on TV talking head shows who has a difficult-to-understand accent.
She first came to moderate fame in California, as the strong, somewhat domineering wife of 1994 Republican candidate for Senate Michael Huffington, the heir to oil magnate Roy M. Huffington's fortune. Her husband was defeated by Democrat Dianne Feinstein, and after the election he divorced her and announced himself to be gay.
After the divorce the former Mrs Huffington went to work for Republican Newt Gingrich, (a CFR Member) and wrote a conservative newspaper column that was syndicated, but with minimal success. Readers and editors were perplexed when, instead of being utterly predictable in her views, Huffington's columns began inching bit-by-bit to the left. By the turn of the millennium, she had reinvented herself as a liberal columnist.
Huffington has taken vicious but well-deserved jabs at Rush Limbaugh and George W. Bush, but also described the Democratic Party's leadership as being "in complete denial". She supports medical marijuana, hardly a controversial stand in California. She has criticized Florida Governor Jeb Bush for pulling strings to ensure that his drug-addled daughter Noelle Bush sidestepped all the normal legal penalties for her crimes. She calls for programs that genuinely support the troops, from increased medical benefits to mental health counseling for returning war vets. She wants America to abide by the Geneva Conventions, and has called for the closing of Guantanamo and other extralegal U.S.-operated prisons.
In 2003, Huffington put together a series of TV and print ads that parodied the White House's "drug war" ads, which had claimed that smoking pot was supporting terrorism. In Huffington's ads, she argued that SUV sales and the oceans of fuel needed to keep those vehicles rolling, funneled much more money to terrorist governments than any pot purchases.
In 2005 she founded The Huffington Post, a website featuring news republished or summarized from traditional media coverage, alongside celebrity bloggers and un-paid amateur posts. The site has proven increasingly popular with a liberal-leaning audience, and in 2008 Huffington Post hired a small staff of paid investigative reporters. In 2009, former Washington Post reporter and media critic Dan Froomkin was hired as Washington bureau chief.
In 2003 Huffington ran for Governor of California, finishing far in the distance behind Arnold Schwarzenegger. She now describes herself as an independent, unaligned with either party.
Father: Constantine Stassinopoulos (economist)
Mother: Elli Stassinopoulos
Sister: Agapi
Husband: Michael Huffington (m. Apr-1986, div. Jun-1997, two daughters)
Boyfriend: Werner Erhard (author of transformational models and applications for individuals, groups, and organizations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Erhard)
Boyfriend: Mort Zuckerman (magazine editor, publisher, and real estate billionaire - 147th wealthiest American)
Boyfriend: Jerry Brown (Governor-elect of the state of California, having already served as Governor from 1975 to 1983. Brown is currently serving as the 31st Attorney General of the state of California, and was elected to a third, non-consecutive term as Governor on November 2, 2010. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Brown)
Boyfriend: Bernard Levin (deceased, London Times, 8 yearshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Levin)
Boyfriend: David Murdock (billionaire - 183rd richest person in the world, Owns: Dole Food, Castle & Cooke and involved in Biotechnology and life extension http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_H._Murdock)
University: MA Economics, Girton College, Cambridge University (1972)
The Huffington Post Founder (2005-)
California Recall Election
Bush-Quayle '92
Campaign for American Leadership in the Middle East
Center for American Progress
Drug Policy Alliance Honorary Board
International Academy of Digital Arts and Sciences
The Reform Institute Advisory Board
Ordained Minister of the Movement for Spiritual Inner Awareness
Wedding: Michael Huffington and Arianna Stassinopoulos (1986)
Greek Ancestry
Risk Factors: Yoga
TELEVISION
Politically Incorrect Frequent Guest
The McLaughlin Group
To The Contrary Panelist
FILMOGRAPHY AS ACTOR
Swing Vote (20-May-2008) Herself
John Q (15-Feb-2002) Herself
Running Mates (13-Aug-2000) Herself
Ed TV (26-Mar-1999)
The Siege (6-Nov-1998)
Official Website:
http://www.ariannaonline.com/
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=174282.0
TIAI redirections are not going to suffice any longer. I do care who is behind TIAI. Is TS simply a distraction, an insider but for those who are working against Michael and not for him? Do they have knowledge about Michael and the hoax because of their affiliation to the "other side" or are they truly on Michael's side? Something about all of this just doesn't feel right to me. TS has made predictions but those have not come to fruition, they cover their ass by saying that due to unforeseen circumstances plans changed etc etc. But are they suggesting these return dates because they think Michael may return on such and such a date, not because they are close to Michael but because they have worked it all out? Are they manipulating us, feeding us conspiracy theories and distracting us from the truth? Are they a disinformation agent, keeping us occupied, putting in just enough real information with BS just as Alex Jones does?
Look TS has the ability to interact on the forum just like everyone else and if they have information to share...then share it and stop playing games. At this point I could care less if they are even Michael himself because this just seems to be a huge game of manipulation and directing our investigations in a certain way; it lacks honesty. The redirections are not being explained and we are left to try and interpret what it all means...a huge mind game?
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I'm tired of thinking about TS and TIAI, because I can not come to any conclusion. His research was very good and can be quite possible a total manipulation of our minds.
I never particularly believed blindly in the TS and I hate when relationships he makes between Michael and Elvis / Elisa. I agree that there are some similarities between life and death of Elvis and Michael, but that's it!
Do not know if TS is Michael himself or is someone with privileged information or whether it is really only one handler.
Some passages of the bible numerology and he puts it, sometimes make me confused. But I honestly do not know for sure about anything with TS.
I hope, to watch the outcome of this story and I hope that have an outcome, because this is a psychological torture.
If Michael is doing all this, again reminds me of the movie V for Vendetta ... V tortured your great friend, until she stop being afraid ... Michael now torture us until we learn to believe in something.
Remember the song On the line?? He says that we must have something to believe in and advised us to open our mind!
All this is very complex. I think I got a little smarter with this story, because I never thought so many!
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If Michael is doing all this, again reminds me of the movie V for Vendetta ... V tortured your great friend, until she stop being afraid ... Michael now torture us until we learn to believe in something.
Makes sense.
If there are parallels between the deaths of Elvis and Michael, I understand that TS insisted both in the case of Eliza, from the investigation of Mo and also of Serenitys_Dream it was found that the evidence provided by Eliza can not be taken into account by the judge, no way am I saying that the tests are false-if he does would have to forget all the legal protocol.
In her last post TS not explain this, but I think it is annoying that some people, myself included, asked for an explanation. If I admit now I have my doubts.
TS wrote: Other than that, I am not obligated to do any redirects or posts; it is my own choice, and no amount of complaints or anything else is going to force me to post again. If I have been wrong on anything, time will tell. And if I’ve been right, time will also tell—the truth will prevail.
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Great Post! I urge you to post some of the other things you have been relunctant to post!
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Excellent post, Serenity's Dream. The facts you post are both insightful and thought provoking especially the TMZ connection. Here is something else regarding the Huffington Post.
Charles Thomson - well-known MJ supporter and advocate is a Huffington Post blogger and media commentator.
Louis Klarevan is a political advisor who writes for The Huffington Post. Some on this forum has stated in the past that they believe he is Badkolo - one of members on this forum.
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What was the alleged connection between this website and Hufington Post? I do remember a youtube video saying this, but I cant recall the info anymore.
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:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Wait a minute Badkolo and the HP are connected? :shock:
I need to re-read all of this post again. My head just exploded.
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Many thanks Serenity..NOW MY HEAD IS REALLY HURTING
:shock: :shock: :shock: :o :o :o :x :x :x :D :D
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Many thanks Serenity..NOW MY HEAD IS REALLY HURTING
:shock: :shock: :shock: :o :o :o :x :x :x :D :D
Ok, well here is more and maybe you can understand why I am at a loss here. This is very complicated and so many different elements to consider.
Lady Gaga aligning herself with Michael. appearing dressed as him on LKL. Saying she was going to be the opening act for the "This Is It" tour. Playing Michael's music before her concerts. Illuminati symbolism in her videos and her performance at the 2009 VMA's (in which she is reenacting something very important to the dark PTB...I really should finish my video on that ;) )
Man who resurrects Lady Gaga
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=16324
Stewart Rahr CEO Kinray Pharmaceuticals company acquired by Cardinal Health.
Cardinal Health To Acquire Kinray For $1.3B
November 19, 2010
Cardinal Health (NYSE: CAH) today announced plans to acquire Kinray, Inc., a leading pharmaceutical distributor serving the New York metropolitan area, for $1.3 billion in an all-cash transaction that will significantly expand its ability to serve retail independent pharmacies in the northeastern United States.
"Joining forces with Cardinal Health supports Kinray's mission to help retail independent pharmacies serve as an integral provider of care for our evolving health care system," said Stewart Rahr, president and chief executive officer of Kinray. "The combination of Kinray's distribution model with the benefits of the value-added services offered by Cardinal Health will benefit our customers, making them even more efficient and successful in caring for their patients. It also provides our people with the opportunity to join one of the world's premier health care companies – one that understands the value we bring to the retail independent pharmacies we serve."
http://www.bioresearchonline.com/article.mvc/Cardinal-Health-To-Acquire-Kinray-For-13B-0001?VNETCOOKIE=NO
Cardinal Health
As the business behind health care, Cardinal Health helps pharmacies, hospitals and ambulatory care sites focus on patient care while reducing costs, improving efficiency and quality, and increasing profitability.
Pharmaceutical Segment
Our Pharmaceutical segment consolidates pharmaceuticals from hundreds of manufacturers into site-specific deliveries to retail pharmacies, hospitals, mail-order facilities, physician offices, surgery centers and long-term and other alternate care facilities. Through this segment, Cardinal Health offers the most secure, efficient and economical source of pharmaceuticals, specialty plasma products and value-added services to healthcare providers and pharmaceutical manufacturers. Cardinal Health also operates the world’s largest network of nuclear pharmacies and is expanding its positron emission tomography (PET) agent manufacturing capabilities to support new drug development and the future of personalized medicine. In addition, about 200 hospitals across the U.S. outsource the management of their inpatient pharmacy to Cardinal Health because of our proven expertise and track record of improving efficiency and safety within inpatient pharmacies.
http://www.cardinalhealth.com/
Cardinal health drug distribution company between the drug manufacturer and the hospitals and pharmacies selling the drugs. They are a distributer of Propofol/Dipravan supplier, I have no way of finding out if the pharmacy Dr. Murray purchased the propofol, Applied Pharmaceutical Services, got their propofol Cardinal Helath but it is a possibility. Cardinal Heath gets the propofol from TEVA Pharmaceuticals and Hospira.
Propofol recall expanded
August 4, 2009
By: Jennifer Fiala
For The VIN News Service
Three additional lots of Teva Pharmaceutical's injectable propofol have been recalled as a precautionary measure.
According to a letter to customers, the class 1 recall's expansion includes 100-ml vials in lot 31305324B, 20-ml vials in lot 31305323B and 50-ml vials in lot 31305431B.
Teva spokeswoman Denise Bradley did not respond to VIN News Service (VNS) media requests by press time. Laura Alvey, deputy director of communications with FDA's Center for Veterinary Medicine, explains that recalls are voluntary, and the agency merely monitors them. FDA does not recall products.
"I can confirm that the company recalled additional lots of propofol related to the initial recall of July 16," Alvey writes in an e-mail to VNS.
Earlier this month , Israeli-based Teva Pharmaceuticals voluntarily recalled 57,000 bottles of injectable propofol after lots 31305429B and 31305430B were found to be contaminated with endotoxin bacteria. Investigations by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) as well as FDA show that the originally recalled propofol was packaged in 100-ml vials. A CDC advisory urged clinicians to stop using the recalled anesthetic.
The newly recalled lots have not tested positive for elevated endotoxins.
Teva advises customers to examine their inventory for the affected lots, which shipped between Feb. 3, 2009, and March 24, 2009, and immediately discontinue the use of any recalled product. Company officials ask that all customers complete and fax a recall stock response form to Teva, even if no recalled product is found.
Upon receipt of the recall response form, Teva promises to credit customers for recalled product, including handling and shipping expenses.
Teva's expanded recall comes on the heels of an unrelated crackdown by FDA on the company's animal-health subsidiary, based in Missouri. Teva Animal Health has been forced to stop manufacturing generics and its DVM Pharmaceuticals line of products while it attempts to beef up its quality control practices to meet FDA standards.
http://news.vin.com/VINNews.aspx?articleId=13541
Injectable Propofol and Diprivan® supply disruption
October 29, 2009 (revised)
Current Situation
Cardinal Health has learned that there will be a potentially significant supply disruption in the market beginning Monday, October 26, for the generic injectable propofol. Propofol (brand name Diprivan®) is an injectable drug product used in hospitals for anesthesia. Manufacturers of this product include APP Pharmaceuticals (brand supplier), Hospira and Teva Sicor.
This supply disruption is a result of Hospira’s recent voluntary recall of specific lots of propofol which were distributed between August – October 2009. All propofol product lots from Hospira having a lot number beginning with either a 79 or 80 are under recall. The recall is due to a manufacturing issue in which stainless steel equipment was determined to be the source of particulate matter in the product. Hospira is classifying the risk associated with this issue as moderate and has instructed customers to quarantine the Hospira-impacted products immediately and follow the return instructions in the Hospira recall letter. The Hospira recall letter also addresses the recall of Liposyn II and Liposyn III. Customers should follow the recall return instructions detailed in the Hospira recall letter that was sent in yesterday’s ebulletin. Cardinal Health has looked into the Liposyn situation, and due to this being a low volume product, we do not anticipate major supply disruptions. We will continue to monitor the situation and provide any necessary updates. Hospira has informed us that they will continue to ship limited supplies of propofol, but are currently in a backorder situation through late November.
http://cardinalhealth.com/generics/market-disruptions/mdr/archives/pdf/20091028-MDRProductFocus-Propofol.pdf
[youtube:2ihdhyzg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQm4PHHhzHA[/youtube:2ihdhyzg]
[youtube:2ihdhyzg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMiw94NTpbs[/youtube:2ihdhyzg]
TIAI, Huffington Post, Badkolo, MJHDI, Arianna Huffington ---> Jerry Brown California Attorney General 1993 (First Molestation Allegations) Current California Attorney General Conrad Murray case (Manslaughter not murder charges and medical licence) Governor of California.
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=16343
Financial contributors to Jerry Browns election campaign 2010 ---> AEG, Branca, Warner/Chappell Part of Warner Bros (TMZ parent company).
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/AEGcontributions.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Branca2.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Branca.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/WarnerChairman.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/WarnerChappell.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Warnerpictures.png)
http://cal-access.ss.ca.gov/Campaign/Committees/Detail.aspx?id=1292687&session=2009&view=received&page=*
Warner Music Group (WMG) is the third largest business group and family of record labels in the recording industry, making it one of the big four record companies. The current incarnation of the company was formed in 2004 when it was spun off from Time Warner, and as a result, Time Warner no longer retains any ownership, despite the name. Warner Music Group also has a music publishing arm called Warner/Chappell Music, which is currently one of the world's largest music-publishing companies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Music_Group
Warner/Chappell Music, Inc. is an American music publishing company, and a division of the Warner Music Group. It was founded in 1811.[1] Among the songs in the company's library are "Happy Birthday to You", and "Winter Wonderland."
The company is the result of numerous acquisitions of other publishers, including M. Witmark & Sons, Remick Music Corporation, Harms, Inc., Chappell & Co., and Tamerlane Music. In 2005, Warner/Chappell sold most of its printed music division, Warner Bros. Publications, to Alfred Publishing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner/Chappell_Music
Alfred Music Publishing is a family-owned and operated music publishing company, founded in 1922. Headquartered in Van Nuys, Los Angeles, California, it is the largest educational music publisher in the world. Alfred Music Publishing is the largest educational music publisher in the world with over 45,000 active print, DVD, audio CD, enhanced CD, software, and Blu-Ray titles in international circulation. Titles represent a variety of musical styles, including works by George and Ira Gershwin, (Michael's Blood sample at UCLA labelled "Gershwin" used in the Autopsy report) Henry Mancini, Duke Ellington, Tony Bennett (WATW 25 "Green Man" appears behind him), Dethklok, Led Zeppelin, Jim Brickman, the Eagles, the Rolling Stones, Nickelback, Madonna, Carlos Santana (dedicates his concerts to Archangel Michael Jackson), Neil Young, Van Halen, Green Day, Evanescence, Disturbed, and hundreds more.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Publishing
Coincidences...probably.
Saudi prince major share holder in AOL/Time Warner & partner Kingdom Entertainment (TMZ's parent company)
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=16175&hilit=+kingdom#p275005
AEG hires Murray, Michael dies of propofol at Murray's hand. Sony, Thome, Dileo, Phillips, Malnik, Ratner, Weisner, Klein, Schaffel, Mann, Rowe, Geller, Shmuley, Sony, Mottola...all connect with one another.
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=73&t=13650&hilit=+jewish+mafia
There is more too just can't get my head around it all.
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Serenitys_Dream, all this information change your opinion of the hoax?
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I just realized that in Part 1 of the video I didn't turn the music off in the interviews I included. I am fixing that and will reupload that video. I had to change the music because of Sony copyright claims. I apologize for that. :oops:
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Excellent post, Serenity's Dream. The facts you post are both insightful and thought provoking especially the TMZ connection. Here is something else regarding the Huffington Post.
Charles Thomson - well-known MJ supporter and advocate is a Huffington Post blogger and media commentator.
Louis Klarevan is a political advisor who writes for The Huffington Post. Some on this forum has stated in the past that they believe he is Badkolo - one of members on this forum.
didn't mo or souza one relate to us not that long ago that badlolo is the one who bought the site when it went down last?
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TS has made predictions but those have not come to fruition, they cover their ass by saying that due to unforeseen circumstances plans changed etc etc.
You are wrong about TS' predictions. Everything he's predicted (except the bam dates) have come true. Just because those don't come true, doesn't mean you can eliminate everything else he's predicted.
- The 1998 autograph codes.
- TIAI pointed to the “2012” movie trailer, more than a week before the MJ parallels were made public
- the connections between 9-9-09 and TII
- MJ's resurrection would be in at a graveyard like Thriller (MJ coming out of Spider), and NOT at the funeral a month before TII was out in theaters
- TII would reveal the hoax, and it did! (No RIP MJ, no "he died June 25th", Smooth Criminal/Rita Hayworth movie about death hoax, etc.)
- February 5 prediction
- War of the Worlds prediction perfectly timed prior to Breaking News?
along with all of these predictions:
#1. MJ investigation complete, only two days after TIAI announced this update (update #1)
#2. 333 pages of FBI files, planned release on same day as TIAI Revealed.
#3. $9.99 while LaToya shopping, connecting with “99” days after 9-9-09.
#4. Six 911 articles on TMZ, the day after TIAI conspiracies on Google (911, etc).
#5. Murray on TMZ news four times, the same day as the TIAI Murray redirect.
#6. Vendetta on 11-5; Evan Chandler / Emerald City on 11-17 (70th anniversary).
#7. 2012 trailer, a week before “Jackson” and many other MJ parallels came out.
#8. TII Resurrection scene in a graveyard (not funeral & casket, etc).
#9. TII would Reveal the hoax (Smooth Criminal, no RIP, BAM statement, etc).
#10. TII would show the MJ “Return” (this very word is now on the DVD).
#11. 1998 autograph codes; 77 days & 7 days all pointed to 9-9-09, and was fulfilled by several TII and MJ related events.
#12. ALLJACK5ONS tweet on 1-18 about TIAI “Revealed”.
#13. TMZ clue on January 25.
#14. TMZ, Murray, and murder versus hoax clue on February 5.
#15. High probability of “piece by piece” return starting in January (see #12, etc).
#16. Autopsy finalized 9-9-09, released just one day after I said “9-9-09 update”.
#17. TIAI redirect to TMZ, less than an hour before the big MJ Killed Himself post.
#18. Update #4 (4-44), #17 article posted on 4-4 at 4:00 AM (444).
#19. Elvis redirect on 5-10, several Elvis events happen from 5-12 to 5-20 (next).
#20. Update 5 (with 12 sections) on 5-12 at 5:12 AM; later that day TMZ starts LMP series from 5-12 to 5-17. Also, Linda talks to Jesse on 5-12.
#21. The final part of TIAI Update (#5d) is posted evening of 5-19 (CA time). On 5-19, Eliza posted a message on her homepage, for the first time in about four months; then on 5-20, the article by attorney Mayoras was posted (6-1, above).
#22. “Strong Evidence of TS’s Authenticity” viewtopic.php?f=72&t=13541 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=13541)
viewtopic.php?f=0&t=13541&p=232799#p232795 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=0&t=13541&p=232799#p232795)
There might be more, I'm sorry if I forgot any. :oops:
Also, TS has already explained the bam dates!
Strongest Evidence that TS Is a Fake Informer
TIAI Update #6 was titled: “TIai update #6: Michael & Elvis, DOuble-bam This Summer?!?” And yes, summer is nearly over. So if there’s no bam soon, then I guess this is very strong evidence that TS is fake, right?
However, although the critics will no doubt be eager to use this reasoning as soon as summer is over, there is one minor problem with this reasoning—and that problem is the following list of the others who would also have to be fake, using the same basic reasoning: Jermaine, 5 Brothers, TMZ, Paris, Ortega, Janet, and even MJ himself!
Jermaine’s “The Tribute” has said “coming SOON” for about a year now {http://www.thetribute2010.com/}; actually, it was originally titled The Tribute 2009 {http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=%22the+tribute+2009%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=5d0b50e146560710}. The “5 Brothers Enterprises” website—with BAM illustrated visually and in the audio—has also said “coming SOON” since December 2009 {http://www.whois.net/whois/5brothersenterprises.com}.
TMZ had a “big clue” for January 18, 2010; but nothing happened {http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/18/michael-jackson-dr-conrad-murray-lapd-investigation-applied-pharmacy-search-warrant-las-vegas/; viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3391 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3391)}. And in the same month (January 2010), Paris said “Daddy was supposed to be here. Daddy was going to perform this year.” {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=5024}
Many already know about Kenny Ortega’s tweet: “Smee: Captain, the ice is melting, the sun is out and the flowers are all in bloom Captain Hook: He’s back” {Sep 1st, 2009 via web; http://twitter.com/KennyOrtegaBlog/status/3684282550 (http://twitter.com/KennyOrtegaBlog/status/3684282550)}. This was so obvious, that he got several questions about it; so only one day later, Kenny said: “... I was quoting text from Peter Pan. Please don’t look for hidden messages. Promise they’re not there. Just fun” {http://twitter.com/KennyOrtegaBlog/status/3706966897}.
Now if MJ were really dead, then we wouldn’t pay much attention to these tweets from Kenny; but if MJ is alive, then the first tweet was indeed a clue—and the second one was to deter further questioning. It is true that the first tweet doesn’t give a specific year, it only mentions springtime; however, unless he was referring to the very next spring (2010), then this tweet was essentially pointless—because it could be ANY spring from now until forever.
On June 14, 2010, Janet tweeted this: “It’s time the fans know the truth …”
{Jun 14th via web; http://twitter.com/JanetJackson/status/16174141128 (http://twitter.com/JanetJackson/status/16174141128), verified account}. What “truth” was Janet referring to, that was then “time” for the fans to “know”? Perhaps that MJ is dead, and he was murdered? If so, that is nothing that hasn’t been said many times already. Furthermore, if MJ is alive, then murder would not be the “truth”—instead, the hoax would be the truth. Yet nearly three months have passed since then, and no hoax truth has come out publicly from the Jacksons.
Last but not least, MJ himself said at the London press conference: “see you in July”! If he really died, then this was merely a reference to the planned concerts in July 2009; but if he was planning a fake death, then the “July” did not refer to 2009. Of course he didn’t say what year, just like Kenny’s tweet; but once again, if MJ didn’t mean July 2010, then it could be any year—and therefore it would be practically meaningless.
Actually, if you’re going to include all of the above as fake MJ hoax informers, then you might as well include Dr. Hinton as a fake Elvis hoax informer; because Dr. Hinton—the very one who helped write the book with Elvis/Jesse—said Elvis would come out publicly in the year 2002, but it didn’t happen {http://lindahoodsigmontruth.com/page19}.
And what about attorney Mayoras, who is an informer with Eliza’s case? Back in May he said: “Eliza Presley’s court case is back on track and scheduled to come to a head this summer. … Stay tuned until this summer. That’s when the real fun begins.” {http://www.probatelawyerblog.com/2010/05/the-elvis-presley-conspiracy-part-iv-what-does-it-all-mean.html}. Summer is about over, so does “this summer” make him a fake informer? By the way “This Summer” is the exact phrase that I used in my Update #6—along with two question marks {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=11061}.
Eliza herself knows that there can be delays, when you are dealing with court cases. She said the following: “Of course, any time that you deal with the legal system, you cannot predict a time frame, can you?” {http://www.elvisinfonet.com/interview_elizapresley1.htm}.
Like everyone else involved in the MJ and Elvis hoaxes, I can’t give any certain dates for bam; I can only give possibilities. And at this point, don’t be too surprised if nothing major happens until after Eliza and/or Murray cases are done.
There are some interesting dates coming up: 10-10-10, Halloween, and November 5 (V for Vendetta); but as always, don’t put too much on any particular date.
What we do know for sure is that: “It’s all going to come out; it’s all going to unfold.” {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd0SoaOe-cs}. This is what Jermaine said back in February, 2010; and it was stated in the context of the “airport” slip, so we know he meant the hoax is all going to come out {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=7010}.
Jermaine also reiterated this again on Larry King interview in June, 2010. “[Larry:] Do you think we’ll ever find out the whole story? [Jermaine:] Yes! Yes! You know why, because his [MJ’s] family is not going to let it not happen. ... We’re going to do everything in our power as a family to make sure the world knows what really happened.” {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi3OiJMjilg}.
Yes, there have been delays; and as time passes, more members may leave this forum (and many have left already). But don’t worry too much; they will all come rushing back right after bamsday—along with thousands and thousands of new members.
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TS has made predictions but those have not come to fruition, they cover their ass by saying that due to unforeseen circumstances plans changed etc etc.
You are wrong about TS' predictions. Everything he's predicted (except the bam dates) have come true. Just because those don't come true, doesn't mean you can eliminate everything else he's predicted.
Also, TS has already explained the bam dates!
I was ONLY referring to the BAM date predictions and nothing else in the comment you have quoted.
I have read ALL of TS posts numerous times. Thank you.
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TS has made predictions but those have not come to fruition, they cover their ass by saying that due to unforeseen circumstances plans changed etc etc.
You are wrong about TS' predictions. Everything he's predicted (except the bam dates) have come true. Just because those don't come true, doesn't mean you can eliminate everything else he's predicted.
Also, TS has already explained the bam dates!
I was ONLY referring to the BAM date predictions and nothing else in the comment you have quoted.
I have read ALL of TS posts numerous times. Thank you.
You didn't say that anywhere. I also included where TS explained the Bam dates. You obviously didn't read that enough if you're still using that against him.
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TS has made predictions but those have not come to fruition, they cover their ass by saying that due to unforeseen circumstances plans changed etc etc.
You are wrong about TS' predictions. Everything he's predicted (except the bam dates) have come true. Just because those don't come true, doesn't mean you can eliminate everything else he's predicted.
Also, TS has already explained the bam dates!
I was ONLY referring to the BAM date predictions and nothing else in the comment you have quoted.
I have read ALL of TS posts numerous times. Thank you.
You didn't say that anywhere. I also included where TS explained the Bam dates. You obviously didn't read that enough if you're still using that against him.
I am not using anything against TS. I have shown that there is more going on here. TIAI was a satirical article at the Huffington Post. TIAI appeared after that. It has been suggested that Badkolo works for the Huffington Post. I have asked 3x for an answer on whether he does or not and NO ONE is answering that. The admins on this site have been keeping secrets from the members. The owners of the Huffington Post have other connections which have led me all the way back to the propofol investigation I made in 2009.
I have no idea if TS is legitimate or not and I was one of the biggest TS advocates until just prior to this latest update. You know nothing about what I think or believe so don't assume to be thinking for me either. I have had enough of arguing and am not going to do that with you either.
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TIAI was a satirical article at the Huffington Post. TIAI appeared after that. It has been suggested that Badkolo works for the Huffington Post. I have asked 3x for an answer on whether he does or not and NO ONE is answering that.
Well THAT is certainly interesting. I can see something like that being made up, but if it happens to be true that could definitely shed some light on things...
I'd like an answer too please.
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Excellent post, Serenity's Dream. The facts you post are both insightful and thought provoking especially the TMZ connection. Here is something else regarding the Huffington Post.
Charles Thomson - well-known MJ supporter and advocate is a Huffington Post blogger and media commentator.
Louis Klarevan is a political advisor who writes for The Huffington Post. Some on this forum has stated in the past that they believe he is Badkolo - one of members on this forum.
didn't mo or souza one relate to us not that long ago that badlolo is the one who bought the site when it went down last?
The surname I believe was Klarevas, with S and the end.
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TIAI was a satirical article at the Huffington Post. TIAI appeared after that. It has been suggested that Badkolo works for the Huffington Post. I have asked 3x for an answer on whether he does or not and NO ONE is answering that.
Well THAT is certainly interesting. I can see something like that being made up, but if it happens to be true that could definitely shed some light on things...
I'd like an answer too please.
Since no one else is answering I will.
Badkolo is not Louis Klav-a-whatever that works for Hufflington post. Badkolo did buy the website mjhd.com. When he bought that site from "AMY" (old admin of mjhd.com) he did so under a friend's name, with his friend's permission, so "AMY" wouldn't know it was Badkolo buying it, because if she knew she would refuse to sell it to him. Badkolo wanted to buy the site to put an end to the drama and infighting "AMY"s shady dealings on the old site caused AND to preserve all our work going forward so what happened to the old database, where we lost everything, would never happen again.
So when Badkolo bought the site, Louis's name was on the e-receipt that Badkolo screen captured as proof mjhd.com was out of "AMY"s hands, and that's how this rumor got started.
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Serenitys_Dream, I appreciate so much your thorough digging for background information on everything in this MJ saga. I'm so glad that you are so honest about your speculations and conclusions. I feel it is very important that we all leave NO STONE UNTURNED. Very important, and I believe even TS urged that we carefully examine everything to be convinced in our minds and hearts of the truth. I do recall back last fall just after watching TII, how Kenny Ortega announced the sequel TIAI, and I thought it was going to be another movie, and then was surprised that this new redirect phenominon was happening. The only problem I have with Sony, TMZ, Huffington Post, AEG, Time Warner, Tohme, and just on and on planning all this as a joke, is what is in it for them when only a small number of us are catching the MJ's alive hoax. To top it off his parents, his own children (obvious on the Oprah interview) are gleefully in on it. You can't have it both ways. It means ALL Michael's family, friends, their dogs and cats all hate Michael, are laughing at his legacy, only care about money and not him at all. Meanwhile all his millions of fans and supporters all over the world love him so fervently. I just can't buy that. So SD, IMO the horrible unthinkable alternative absolutely does NOT work. I've always said his children are the bottom line proof for me. Unless they are being threatened with their lives, or brainwashed in some way to say and act the way they are. The latest scuffle on this forum, doesn't really change all the events we've studied since June 25,09, that are apart from TS. Maybe I'm totally wrong, but this is what I see right now. We do need you here, you know. We need you for in the days, months ahead, where I believe it is going to get harder and harder, and probably where the sh-- is going to be waist high and rising before it's done. But maybe I'm mistaken and it will be happy and smooth all the way to BAM!
I sort of picture a juggler, who has to keep all his objects in the air moving and accurate. We have to be that juggler in our brains concetrating with all this overload of information, all of it seeming to contradict the official story. All the possible scenarios of how Michael is orchestrating this or how he was conspired against, have to be cirulated with the facts true and false. That's why I've always felt that God had to somehow be behind this, because it didn't seem humanly possible.
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Serenity, I'm glad you decided to post this. You said:
'So this was not a serious story at all and I highly doubt that Andy Borowitz is involved in the hoax.'
But consider if it WAS a serious story but delivered in this satirical way so's not to be too obvious, i.e. Sony (under the directorship of MJ), right now, are making the sequel, 'This Is Also It'? I think this is what I've believed all along! Makes sense to me and is no stranger than any of the other 'theories' around.
Thanks Serenity!
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Thanks a lot for your thorough research and for sharing it with us. It gives light to the many dark spots of this investigation...
Good job, keep doing it! ;)
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Thanks so much for all the investigative work you've done here Serenity it's very interesting information to say the least. ;)
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TIAI was a satirical article at the Huffington Post. TIAI appeared after that. It has been suggested that Badkolo works for the Huffington Post. I have asked 3x for an answer on whether he does or not and NO ONE is answering that.
Well THAT is certainly interesting. I can see something like that being made up, but if it happens to be true that could definitely shed some light on things...
I'd like an answer too please.
Since no one else is answering I will.
Badkolo is not Louis Klav-a-whatever that works for Hufflington post. Badkolo did buy the website mjhd.com. When he bought that site from "AMY" (old admin of mjhd.com) he did so under a friend's name, with his friend's permission, so "AMY" wouldn't know it was Badkolo buying it, because if she knew she would refuse to sell it to him. Badkolo wanted to buy the site to put an end to the drama and infighting "AMY"s shady dealings on the old site caused AND to preserve all our work going forward so what happened to the old database, where we lost everything, would never happen again.
So when Badkolo bought the site, Louis's name was on the e-receipt that Badkolo screen captured as proof mjhd.com was out of "AMY"s hands, and that's how this rumor got started.
Bec, what you stated is not correct.
Louie Klarevas is listed as the owner of OUR domain - michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com.
Badkolo used the name Gary Smith in the process of purchasing the domain michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com from "Amy". The name Gray Smith (he made a typo writing Gray instead of Gary) is on the PayPall receipt.
The surname I believe was Klarevas, with S and the end.
Indeed Gema, the name of Badkolo's friend is Louie KlarevaS, not Louie KlarevaN. This eliminates the alleged connection between Badkolo and the Huffington Post.
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TIAI was a satirical article at the Huffington Post. TIAI appeared after that. It has been suggested that Badkolo works for the Huffington Post. I have asked 3x for an answer on whether he does or not and NO ONE is answering that.
Well THAT is certainly interesting. I can see something like that being made up, but if it happens to be true that could definitely shed some light on things...
I'd like an answer too please.
Since no one else is answering I will.
Badkolo is not Louis Klav-a-whatever that works for Hufflington post. Badkolo did buy the website mjhd.com. When he bought that site from "AMY" (old admin of mjhd.com) he did so under a friend's name, with his friend's permission, so "AMY" wouldn't know it was Badkolo buying it, because if she knew she would refuse to sell it to him. Badkolo wanted to buy the site to put an end to the drama and infighting "AMY"s shady dealings on the old site caused AND to preserve all our work going forward so what happened to the old database, where we lost everything, would never happen again.
So when Badkolo bought the site, Louis's name was on the e-receipt that Badkolo screen captured as proof mjhd.com was out of "AMY"s hands, and that's how this rumor got started.
Bec, what you stated is not correct.
Louie Klarevas is listed as the owner of OUR domain - michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com.
Badkolo used the name Gary Smith in the process of purchasing the domain michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com from "Amy". The name Gray Smith (he made a typo writing Gray instead of Gary) is on the PayPall receipt.
The surname I believe was Klarevas, with S and the end.
Indeed Gema, the name of Badkolo's friend is Louie KlarevaS, not Louie KlarevaN. This eliminates the alleged connection between Badkolo and the Huffington Post.
Thank you, Mo, for this information. I'm not sure how this eliminates the connection though because if Badkolo used a name that was not his it does not mean that he automatically isn't connected to The Huffington Post.
Also, you state:
Louie Klarevas is listed as the owner of OUR domain - michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com.
and Louis Klarevas is connected to the Huffington Post, doesn't this still connect this site with the Huffington Post?
Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks.
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The names connected are not as important as finding out the real intentions of the Huffington Post regarding Michael Jackson, imo.
I did react long ago about it after finding out that Diane DEmon was a writer of the Huffington Post and got dubious about it. However, lets assume that the Huffington Post is not really Michael´s friend but in their aim to "demask" what happened to Michael we get to learn the man he really was.
So far I just got confirmation of what I already knew, Michael was a very important part of my life and will have him in my heart and always remember him.
With this I just mean that no matter how things turns as long as we are sure what we believe in. Michael can be dead, Michael can be alive. Both situations should not affect our lifes. Dead or alive, Michael does not know who we are but we surely know who he was and that´s what only matters.
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TIAI was a satirical article at the Huffington Post. TIAI appeared after that. It has been suggested that Badkolo works for the Huffington Post. I have asked 3x for an answer on whether he does or not and NO ONE is answering that.
Well THAT is certainly interesting. I can see something like that being made up, but if it happens to be true that could definitely shed some light on things...
I'd like an answer too please.
Since no one else is answering I will.
Badkolo is not Louis Klav-a-whatever that works for Hufflington post. Badkolo did buy the website mjhd.com. When he bought that site from "AMY" (old admin of mjhd.com) he did so under a friend's name, with his friend's permission, so "AMY" wouldn't know it was Badkolo buying it, because if she knew she would refuse to sell it to him. Badkolo wanted to buy the site to put an end to the drama and infighting "AMY"s shady dealings on the old site caused AND to preserve all our work going forward so what happened to the old database, where we lost everything, would never happen again.
So when Badkolo bought the site, Louis's name was on the e-receipt that Badkolo screen captured as proof mjhd.com was out of "AMY"s hands, and that's how this rumor got started.
Bec, what you stated is not correct.
Louie Klarevas is listed as the owner of OUR domain - michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com.
Badkolo used the name Gary Smith in the process of purchasing the domain michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com from "Amy". The name Gray Smith (he made a typo writing Gray instead of Gary) is on the PayPall receipt.
The surname I believe was Klarevas, with S and the end.
Indeed Gema, the name of Badkolo's friend is Louie KlarevaS, not Louie KlarevaN. This eliminates the alleged connection between Badkolo and the Huffington Post.
Thank you, Mo, for this information. I'm not sure how this eliminates the connection though because if Badkolo used a name that was not his it does not mean that he automatically isn't connected to The Huffington Post.
Also, you state:
Louie Klarevas is listed as the owner of OUR domain - michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com.
and Louis Klarevas is connected to the Huffington Post, doesn't this still connect this site with the Huffington Post?
Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks.
The answer to your question is already in the post you quoted, and in a previous post in this thread...
Louis KlarevaN is a political advisor who writes for The Huffington Post.
The name of Badkolo's friend is Louie KlarevaS, not Louie KlarevaN.
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TIAI was a satirical article at the Huffington Post. TIAI appeared after that. It has been suggested that Badkolo works for the Huffington Post. I have asked 3x for an answer on whether he does or not and NO ONE is answering that.
Well THAT is certainly interesting. I can see something like that being made up, but if it happens to be true that could definitely shed some light on things...
I'd like an answer too please.
Since no one else is answering I will.
Badkolo is not Louis Klav-a-whatever that works for Hufflington post. Badkolo did buy the website mjhd.com. When he bought that site from "AMY" (old admin of mjhd.com) he did so under a friend's name, with his friend's permission, so "AMY" wouldn't know it was Badkolo buying it, because if she knew she would refuse to sell it to him. Badkolo wanted to buy the site to put an end to the drama and infighting "AMY"s shady dealings on the old site caused AND to preserve all our work going forward so what happened to the old database, where we lost everything, would never happen again.
So when Badkolo bought the site, Louis's name was on the e-receipt that Badkolo screen captured as proof mjhd.com was out of "AMY"s hands, and that's how this rumor got started.
Bec, what you stated is not correct.
Louie Klarevas is listed as the owner of OUR domain - michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com.
Badkolo used the name Gary Smith in the process of purchasing the domain michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com from "Amy". The name Gray Smith (he made a typo writing Gray instead of Gary) is on the PayPall receipt.
The surname I believe was Klarevas, with S and the end.
Indeed Gema, the name of Badkolo's friend is Louie KlarevaS, not Louie KlarevaN. This eliminates the alleged connection between Badkolo and the Huffington Post.
Thank you, Mo, for this information. I'm not sure how this eliminates the connection though because if Badkolo used a name that was not his it does not mean that he automatically isn't connected to The Huffington Post.
Also, you state:
Louie Klarevas is listed as the owner of OUR domain - michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com.
and Louis Klarevas is connected to the Huffington Post, doesn't this still connect this site with the Huffington Post?
Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks.
The answer to your question is already in the post you quoted, and in a previous post in this thread...
Louis KlarevaN is a political advisor who writes for The Huffington Post.
The name of Badkolo's friend is Louie KlarevaS, not Louie KlarevaN.
Great - thanks for the info. So, these are two different people and two different names.
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so is this the guy?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/louis-klarevas (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/louis-klarevas)
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I read the article about Scholarship :shock:
I believed that one only became the teacher´s cleaning assistant at the Spanish universities :lol:
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so is this the guy?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/louis-klarevas (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/louis-klarevas)
Yes, Louis KlarevaS is the Huff post guy
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Ok Mo, sorry, I thought that was the name on the receipt. So it's the name that comes up on the Whois listing.
And I only answered because people were getting paranoid and no one else was saying anything. It's really a mods job to clear this up, not mine.
Either way, you could have done the simple Google search and found out, KlarevaS is the name of the guy at Huffington Post. The poster who said KlarevaN made a typo.
Both names, friends and political adviser, are Klarevas.
So then I have a question. After Badkolo purchased the site and was in the free and clear with it, why bother listing the site under an elaborate fake name like Louis Klarevas? What was wrong with Gray Smith?
I'm sure I knew the reason at one time but I forget. Care to explain to the class?
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so is this the guy?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/louis-klarevas (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/louis-klarevas)
Yes, Louis KlarevaS is the Huff post guy
Louis KlarevaN is a political advisor who writes for The Huffington Post.
The name of Badkolo's friend is Louie KlarevaS, not Louie KlarevaN.
oh, I am now completely lost who is who now :?
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so is this the guy?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/louis-klarevas (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/louis-klarevas)
Yes, Louis KlarevaS is the Huff post guy
Louis KlarevaN is a political advisor who writes for The Huffington Post.
The name of Badkolo's friend is Louie KlarevaS, not Louie KlarevaN.
oh, I am now completely lost who is who now :?
Oh..they are the same person, my dear :lol: And who is Badkolo? I'm sure someone we already know, too. ;)
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I´m also lost about Gray Smith and Louis Klarevas (http://www.pooliebunker.co.uk/newbunker/images/smilies/scratching%20head%20smiley.gif)
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so is this the guy?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/louis-klarevas (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/louis-klarevas)
Yes, Louis KlarevaS is the Huff post guy
Louis KlarevaN is a political advisor who writes for The Huffington Post.
The name of Badkolo's friend is Louie KlarevaS, not Louie KlarevaN.
oh, I am now completely lost who is who now :?
Oh..they are the same person, my dear :lol: And who is Badkolo? I'm sure someone we already know, too. ;)
He's just a guy who likes to buy shit on ebay and kill time watching videos on YouTube. He's a hoaxer like you and I. He is certainly not a political adviser nor works for a journalism company that's for sure :lol:
Sorry Badkolo if you're reading this, but you're not.
Ps. Klarevas is both names (friend and Huffington guy). The names are the same.
Why isn't Admin clearing this up???
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so is this the guy?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/louis-klarevas (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/louis-klarevas)
Yes, Louis KlarevaS is the Huff post guy
Louis KlarevaN is a political advisor who writes for The Huffington Post.
The name of Badkolo's friend is Louie KlarevaS, not Louie KlarevaN.
oh, I am now completely lost who is who now :?
Oh..they are the same person, my dear :lol: And who is Badkolo? I'm sure someone we already know, too. ;)
He's just a guy who likes to buy shit on ebay and kill time watching videos on YouTube. He's a hoaxer like you and I. He is certainly not a political adviser nor works for a journalism company that's for sure :lol:
Sorry Badkolo if you're reading this, but you're not.
Ps. Klarevas is both names (friend and Huffington guy). The names are the same.
Why isn't Admin clearing this up???
Maybe because it's news to her?
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Not it's not news to either Souza or Mo. All three of us were there when the site was bought. They know the same as I do. Mo's memory is obviously clearer then mine though. I didn't remember the Gray Smith part.
Look, I'm just trying to say, Badkolo is just a guy. Normal, average, everyday guy. This I know and can state.
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Ok Mo, sorry, I thought that was the name on the receipt. So it's the name that comes up on the Whois listing.
And I only answered because people were getting paranoid and no one else was saying anything. It's really a mods job to clear this up, not mine.
Either way, you could have done the simple Google search and found out, KlarevaS is the name of the guy at Huffington Post. The poster who said KlarevaN made a typo.
Both names, friends and political adviser, are Klarevas.
So then I have a question. After Badkolo purchased the site and was in the free and clear with it, why bother listing the site under an elaborate fake name like Louis Klarevas? What was wrong with Gray Smith?
I'm sure I knew the reason at one time but I forget. Care to explain to the class?
michaeljacksonhoaxdeath isn't and never has been listed under the name Louie Klarevas Bec. Check for yourself: http://whois.domaintools.com/michaeljac ... xdeath.com (http://whois.domaintools.com/michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com)
It's michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com which is listed under Louie Klarevas: http://whois.domaintools.com/michaeljac ... xforum.com (http://whois.domaintools.com/michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com)
Also, Badkolo didn't purchase the site as you keep calling it, he bought the domain.
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Site/domain, whatever. Everyone knew what I meant (at least I hope). I'm layman when it comes to internet stuff so I don't always use the right words.
So why then. You aren't answering the why. Why did he use the name Louis Klarevas?
Badkolo may have purchased just the domain mjhd.com but he funds this entire project, including the hosting for this site. So potato/potatoe, minor detail. He's the boss, how's that?
People here are craving full disclosure at this point for good reason. So let's provide it to them as a gesture of honesty and pure intentions.
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BADKOLO said...
To anon::
As everyone else knows, i have no clue as to who owns, is affiliated with nor am I part of that site nor do i know who is, I dont know exactly when it was started and i never followed it becuase I was told it was part of mjhd.com which i dissociated from. The fact that thisisalsoit.com was in godaddy in the first place led me to believe it was run by (amy) or mjhd.com. That is only an assumption since godaddy is popular and could be a coincidence. Now that I purchased mjhd.com and relinquished it to Mo & Souza it has to stay at godaddy for 30 days. Nothing I can do about that.
While some think thisisalsoit.com is part of this hoax and it well could be, I personally believe its someone from the old mjhd that decided to have soem fun with people and play with thier heads but hey thats just me.
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oh let me guess your all dying to know one thing right?????.
Why did badkolo buy mjhd.com and redirect it to mjhf.com
I became a mod at mjhd, back in july/august when the site first went down. From day one we had to deal with trolls and people complaining to this amy. Time went on and fishy things went on in the chat and forum, Amy was caught in a lie and at the same time 2 mods where fired while 3 quit on the same day. Thats 5 mods gone in one day, the new trolls took over and ruined the site. (after a long discussion with silverwolf we have concluded they wherent part of the scum and in the end this amy character screwed them as well and i have no ill will towards him at all)During my time as a mod at mjhd.com i was hacked many times resulting in all my info stolen, bank info, emails hacked and erased, msn messenger hacked as well. That was part of why I quit.
NOw to present day. Mo and souza are my friends I met at mjhd.com along with many others I still speak with. While you all love to bash Mo and Souza with no reason , simply out of your own stupidity since you dont know them, becuase if you actually knew them you would know they spend every waking moment at home or at work trying to figure out this hoax and bring people some answers or some thought prevoking stuff to think about.
Yes I will agree sometimes what they have written can seem outrageous or simply cruel, but , if you would stop , read and think , you will see that they spent countless hours on research and are in this guessing game just as all of us are. If you dont like what they have to say that is your right, but to bash them for doing hard work is simply moronic on your part.
I find it shameful that you mock them when i dont see any answers from you about this hoax, at least they try, IF MICHAEL DID HOAX HIS DEATH then who are you to judge these 2 girs on any conclusion to come up with.
Now back to WHY i did what I did.
I dont trust amy and I was sick of the bullcrap that was poisoning both sites, amy was selling it and I bought it and ended the chaos. Except this blog exists to keep strring the same old crap about mjhd.com, that site is dead and I buried it and redirected it to MJHF.com which is also my name as many other michaeljackson names which i redirected all and have given to Mo & Suza as a gift.
In the end peace has been made if you like it or not.
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Site/domain, whatever. Everyone knew what I meant (at least I hope). I'm layman when it comes to internet stuff so I don't always use the right words.
So why then. You aren't answering the why. Why did he use the name Louis Klarevas?
Badkolo may have purchased just the domain mjhd.com but he funds this entire project, including the hosting for this site. So potato/potatoe, minor detail. He's the boss, how's that?
People here are craving full disclosure at this point for good reason. So let's provide it to them as a gesture of honesty and pure intentions.
Bec, since you want answers from Badkolo, I suggest you send an email to Badkolo and write down all the questions you want him to answer. I think that would be a gesture of honesty towards him, don't you agree?
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Whether or not Badkolo works for the Huffington Post or not has been answered now. This was just one question that involved the forum. It is not the only question nor was it the most important ones in this thread.
Let's sum it up a bit then:
"This Is Also It" was a satirical article about a sequel to the movie "This Is It" that appeared in The Huffington Post. It was sarcastically making fun of the capitalizing on Michael's death by comedian Andy Borrowitz. Borrowitz, uses these types of satirical articles as a means to critique things in our society. A lot of comedy involves critiquing, having us look at ourselves and see how silly our behaviour really is and presenting that in such a way that we can laugh at ourselves...though there is often still truth in what is being presented.
After this article appeared in The Huffington Post. Then TIAI, a site redirecting to other sites appeared. STUDY was already a forum poster at the old MJHD. At that time, STUDY, seemed to be just another believer and investigator putting forth theories like the rest of us. It was later revealed that STUDY was responsible for the redirection of TIAI and had taken a new screen name TS.
OK, so there is a connection between the TS and the TIAI name for the redirecting web address. Is that by coincidence?
Did the article just happen to appear?
The owners of the Huffington Post (in which the TIAI article first appeared), Arianna Huffington, Kenneth Lerer, and Jonah Peretti have some interesting connections possibly related to the hoax.
Jonah Peretti - is best known for his experiments with "contagious" or "viral" media.
Viral Phenomenon
The concept of something, other than a biological virus, being viral came into vogue just after the Internet became widely popular in the mid-to-late 1990s. An object, even a immaterial object, is considered to be viral when it has the ability to spread copies of itself or change other similar objects to become more like itself when those objects are simply exposed to the viral object. This has become a common way to describe how thoughts, information and trends move into and through a human population. Memes are possibly the best example of viral patterns. The 1992 novel Snow Crash explores the implications of an ancient memetic meta-virus and its modern day computer virus equivalent,
“We are all susceptible to the pull of viral ideas. Like mass hysteria. Or a tune that gets into your head that you keep on humming all day until you spread it to someone else. Jokes. Urban legends. Crackpot religions. No matter how smart we get, there is always this deep irrational part that makes us potential hosts for self-replicating information."
Research on viral marketing techniques has begun to reveal some of the specific dynamics of the viral phenomenon. The viral spread of an Internet message involves a convergence of modalities, including blogs, social networking sites, and mass media coverage. It is common for the message to spread and obtain notoriety via Internet modalities some amount of time before such notoriety is reported by mass media sources.
Examples of viral phenomena in addition to memes are:
* Viral marketing
* Chain letters
* Viral email
* Viral video
* Viral licenses (such as the GNU General Public License)
* Clothing fashion trends
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_phenomenon
Kenneth Lerer - Kenneth Lerer is an American businessman and media executive. He is a past Executive Vice President of AOL Time Warner (TMZ's parent company) and was a founding partner of New York based corporate communications firm Robinson, Lerer, and Montgomery. He is also an active fundraisers for the Democratic party and he co-hosted a $2,300/plate fundraiser for Barack Obama at their Central Park West apartment in New York.
Robinson Lerer & Montgomery - is a strategic, corporate and financial communications firm that provides counsel and support to leading companies and institutions around the world. The firm has managed some of the most complex, high-profile communications challenges of the last three decades.
So Kenneth Lerer has a connection to TMZ and Obama (NWO?) as well as being a partner in a communications company that deals with complex communications (media) situations for companies. TS (TIAI) has linked themselves and Michael to TMZ. We believe that TMZ is giving clues in their articles and a Saudi Prince with connections to Michael (Kingdom Entertainment) is also a major shareholder in AOL/Time Warner (TMZ's Parent Company).
TMZ - ran a story about Lady Gaga being resurrected from her "virtual death" by a Billionaire named Stewart Rahr. Lady Gaga has made it seem that she has a lot in common with Michael Jackson in the way she has presented herself but there also NWO/Illuminati connection in her performances, videos, lyrics and in how she presents herself. Now is she really aligned with Michael or she trying to capitalize on his death and garner his fans for herself? I don't have the answer.
Back to Rahr... he is the CEO of Kinray inc., a pharmaceutical company that was recently acquired by Cardinal health a pharmaceutical distributor between drug manufacturers and drug dispensers such as hospitals and pharmacies. Cardinal Health distributes propofol to pharmacies and hospitals which they obtain from TEVA Pharmaceuticals and Hospira. Right after Michael's reported death, TEVA recalled propofol due to contamination and since has gotten out of the manufacture of this drug. TMZ ran the story on this but they also contacted Hospira for comment. We were told that Michael did not receive contaminated propofol from TEVA because the lot numbers on the labels, on the bottles found in Michael's home, did not match those recalled by TEVA. BUT there were no labels on the bottles found in Michael's home so there is no way to know from which lots of propofol they came from. There have also been no reports that contents of the propofol bottles found in Michael's home were ever tested for contamination. Hospira nd TEVA also had some strange business dealing not long after all this occurred. (All this information is in the videos I made and previously posted)
Arianna Huffington
She has been involved in politics. She was previously married Michael Huffington who ran for the US Senate in 1994. He is the son of Texas oil baron Roy M. Huffington. (The Bush Family is also Texas Oil too)
Michael Huffington
Huffington's interest in politics began in 1968, when he was a summer intern for freshman Congressman George H.W. Bush in Washington, D.C.
In 1986, President Ronald Reagan appointed Huffington as Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Negotiations Policy with responsibility for conventional arms control negotiations. He was awarded the Secretary of Defense Medal for outstanding public service.
In 1992, Huffington was elected to the House of Representatives from California's 22nd District (Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo counties).
In the 2003 California recall election, Huffington endorsed Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger. His ex-wife, Arianna Huffington, was an opposing candidate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Huffington
After Arianna Huffington's marriage ended, she went to work fro Newt Gingrich. He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations (NWO).
Arianna Huffington also dated Jerry Brown for several years. He was the California Attorney General at the time that the molestation charges where brought against Michael in 1993. At that time there where also several plagiarism cases brought against Michael for both "Thriller" & "Dangerous".
from 1999 - 2007 Jerry Brown was the Mayor of Oakland California. He is credited with starting the revitalization of the city using his connections and experience to lessen the economic downturn, while attracting $1 billion of investments, including refurbishing Fox Theater (Oakland), the Port of Oakland and Jack London Square. (Jack London is one of the alias' Michael used to obtain prescriptions in so the media tells us. Coincidence?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Brown
Jerry Brown is the current Attorney General of California and he is involved in the "investigation" of Michael's death as well as the charges being brought against Dr. Conrad Murray as well as the revocation of Murray's medical licence (unsuccessful). Brown will be taking over as the Governor of California in January, his third term as California Governor.
AEG, Warner Bros and Branca's law partner were all financial contributors to Jerry Brown's election campaign. Branca is an executor of the Michal Jackson estate. AEG and Sony are behind the movie "This Is It" and any sequel would also come from them (others connected to Sony and Michael lead off in another branch to do with the 2005 trial, the mafia, the ATV catalogue etc). The original satirical article, published by The Huffington Post, about TIAI is critiquing Sony.
We have now come full circle...
I have not fabricated any of this and all of this information is fact and readily available on the Internet. It is not speculation or theories and the only things included, that would not be considered fact, are my questions. If we try to answer those questions, this may lead to speculations and theories.
Are we being played with here? Or is The Huffington Post also involved in the hoax (either being manipulated by Michael or are they active players).
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I have not fabricated any of this and all of this information is fact and readily available on the Internet. It is not speculation or theories and the only things included, that would not be considered fact, are my questions.
Serenity, no offense intended and I do appreciate your research, but do you feel that everything that's stated on the internet is a fact?
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I have not fabricated any of this and all of this information is fact and readily available on the Internet. It is not speculation or theories and the only things included, that would not be considered fact, are my questions.
Serenity, no offense intended and I do appreciate your research, but do you feel that everything that's stated on the internet is a fact?
What part Mo?
Cause all we have is the Internet to look into these organizations and people.
And where did you get the information for your blogs, that an "informer" directed you to research?
I have no informer, just me and my computer.
Where do you suggest we look for information if not the Internet then?
The information about Gaga is from her own site, fan reports, her own videos, her LKL appearance etc. TEVA did recall propofol Highly reported and also at the FDA's website. Arianna Huffington was married to Michael Huffington, he is the son of Texas oil man and he did intern with Bush. Arianna Huffington did date Jerry Brown for several years. AEG, Warner Bros, Branca's partner did contribute to Jerry Brown's campaign, that is information available to the public as required by law.
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I have not fabricated any of this and all of this information is fact and readily available on the Internet. It is not speculation or theories and the only things included, that would not be considered fact, are my questions.
Serenity, no offense intended and I do appreciate your research, but do you feel that everything that's stated on the internet is a fact?
What part Mo?
Cause all we have is the Internet to look into these organizations and people.
And where did you get the information for your blogs?
The information about Gaga is from her own site, fan reports, her own videos, her LKL appearance etc. TEVA did recall propofol Highly reported and also at the FDA's website. Arianna Huffington was married to Michael Huffington, he is the son of Texas oil man and he did intern with Bush. Arianna Huffington did date Jerry Brown for several years. AEG, Warner Bros, Branca's partner did contribute to Jerry Brown's campaign, that is information available to the public as required by law.
Yes you are right, I used the internet as source for the blogs we did. It wasn't until recently that I decided to call and email professionals to verify the information that's on the internet, which led to very interesting information and in some cases a totally different outcome. This made me decide that as from that time on I will not just rely on whatever is published on the internet, because it's not always facts.
By the way - all that's published about artists, especially what is on their own websites, is mainly done by their agencies, so that's purely PR.
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So that means TS who is really this powerful creative circle of people or a hired satirical journalist wrote his redirects and posts to scam the gullible or to study people's reactions, etc. It means they obviously did not do it for love for Michael, just cold cunning. It's a shame for them so few readers were that gullible. It means the vast majority of the people who believe MJ was murdered were right all along. We'd have to join the other camp. It means Prince and Paris made those comments about Coca Cola, Skittles, french toast and Snickers on Oprah coincidentally. :? :(
So maybe now with this more clear understanding of behind the scenes can you run this through your hoax filters to see if everything fits? To me it's like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. But maybe we need to sift through the stuff with this latest info in mind.
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Such a very good research SD. Thank you for this.
If we got nothing from the family, I could believe that this whole thing is a mass scam, a big joke or an experiment. But the entire family and friends are also giving us clues, and also some of them are saying that MJ is alive.
Let's pretend that TS/TIAI was hired by Andy Borrowitz or The Huffington Post for a mass scam. Were they trying to see how many people they can fool? I mean what could be the purpose? Well, it is obvious that they couldn't be that successful, they could fool only a thousand of people. Why didn't they stop the "joke" after they understood that they could not fool many people? I'm brainstorming here and want to think about all possibilities. But also Andy Borrowitz or whoever that one is must be so powerful to include TMZ and Sony to his master plan, am I wrong? They all have to be in this scam. But what did they gain if this is just a scam? Just a thousand believers. And then what?
I don't know but this doesn't make any sense to me. And if there was no numerology in this hoax, if TS created and found that numerology, how can it be possible to happen that fits perfectly with 7 7 7 to the date of 9 9 9? TS also showed the possibility of it and it is almost impossible. And if Michael is dead, then the family decided for the dates of the funeral and the memorial. So the family is in this scam, murder whatever you name it thing? If Michael is alive in which I 100% believe that he is, he MUST be the one who arranged these dates. And what is the possibility of Michael arranging these dates as '77 days from the “death” on June 25 to 9-9-09; and 7 days from the “burial” to 9-9-09' just by a chance? This is the main issue that makes TS reliable to me.
All I'm saying is, if there's a murder the family has to be on it. If there's a scam, TMZ, Sony and some of MJ's friends has to be on it. And these two issues don't make any sense to me.
But thank you so so much for this interesting investigation. I learned more with your posts SD. Thank you.
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If PureLove, I agree with you the Numerology, dates, the photos in the burial, whom I organize all that?, the lack of emotions in the whole family, but also this SD's investigation that serious another face of the currency that we have not given him attention or we it have not wanted to see.
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If PureLove, I agree with you the Numerology, dates, the photos in the burial, whom I organize all that?, the lack of emotions in the whole family, but also this SD's investigation that serious another face of the currency that we have not given him attention or we it have not wanted to see.
I tried to think about all sorts of possibilities Paula and wrote it down in my previous post. I gave attention to what SD wrote and tried to understand if it could be possible. It has nothing to do with not wanting to see it. I can not find an explanation to it if this a mass scam or a murder. If anyone can, I'd love to listen.
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Site/domain, whatever. Everyone knew what I meant (at least I hope). I'm layman when it comes to internet stuff so I don't always use the right words.
So why then. You aren't answering the why. Why did he use the name Louis Klarevas?
Badkolo may have purchased just the domain mjhd.com but he funds this entire project, including the hosting for this site. So potato/potatoe, minor detail. He's the boss, how's that?
People here are craving full disclosure at this point for good reason. So let's provide it to them as a gesture of honesty and pure intentions.
Bec, since you want answers from Badkolo, I suggest you send an email to Badkolo and write down all the questions you want him to answer. I think that would be a gesture of honesty towards him, don't you agree?
I don't want answers. I'm trying to help those who want answers find them. This is your site not mine. People were getting paranoid about who he was so I was trying to ease their minds since no one else was. And the lack of direct answers is sincerely shady. And there's no reason for it! You know the answer, as do I but I guess I forgot (because it wasn't important) and people are concerned. They have questions.
Don't you understand that your evasiveness is what is making people uncomfortable? I'm trying to pitch in and help out with some clear, direct answers. You said I was wrong wrong wrong no no no... but you aren't coming forward with anything that clears this question up for people... only generating more questions. There's no answers, only mysterious partial and half truths and cryptic statements.
Re: the underlined, pardon Mo, but what the fuck is that supposed to mean?
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Serenitys_Dream, I appreciate so much your thorough digging for background information on everything in this MJ saga. I'm so glad that you are so honest about your speculations and conclusions. I feel it is very important that we all leave NO STONE UNTURNED. Very important, and I believe even TS urged that we carefully examine everything to be convinced in our minds and hearts of the truth. I do recall back last fall just after watching TII, how Kenny Ortega announced the sequel TIAI, and I thought it was going to be another movie, and then was surprised that this new redirect phenominon was happening. The only problem I have with Sony, TMZ, Huffington Post, AEG, Time Warner, Tohme, and just on and on planning all this as a joke, is what is in it for them when only a small number of us are catching the MJ's alive hoax. To top it off his parents, his own children (obvious on the Oprah interview) are gleefully in on it. You can't have it both ways. It means ALL Michael's family, friends, their dogs and cats all hate Michael, are laughing at his legacy, only care about money and not him at all. Meanwhile all his millions of fans and supporters all over the world love him so fervently. I just can't buy that. So SD, IMO the horrible unthinkable alternative absolutely does NOT work. I've always said his children are the bottom line proof for me. Unless they are being threatened with their lives, or brainwashed in some way to say and act the way they are. The latest scuffle on this forum, doesn't really change all the events we've studied since June 25,09, that are apart from TS. Maybe I'm totally wrong, but this is what I see right now. We do need you here, you know. We need you for in the days, months ahead, where I believe it is going to get harder and harder, and probably where the sh-- is going to be waist high and rising before it's done. But maybe I'm mistaken and it will be happy and smooth all the way to BAM!
I sort of picture a juggler, who has to keep all his objects in the air moving and accurate. We have to be that juggler in our brains concetrating with all this overload of information, all of it seeming to contradict the official story. All the possible scenarios of how Michael is orchestrating this or how he was conspired against, have to be cirulated with the facts true and false. That's why I've always felt that God had to somehow be behind this, because it didn't seem humanly possible.
Excellent post MJonmind! Exactly my opinion! :)
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Such a very good research SD. Thank you for this.
If we got nothing from the family, I could believe that this whole thing is a mass scam, a big joke or an experiment. But the entire family and friends are also giving us clues, and also some of them are saying that MJ is alive.
Let's pretend that TS/TIAI was hired by Andy Borrowitz or The Huffington Post for a mass scam. Were they trying to see how many people they can fool? I mean what could be the purpose? Well, it is obvious that they couldn't be that successful, they could fool only a thousand of people. Why didn't they stop the "joke" after they understood that they could not fool many people? I'm brainstorming here and want to think about all possibilities. But also Andy Borrowitz or whoever that one is must be so powerful to include TMZ and Sony to his master plan, am I wrong? They all have to be in this scam. But what did they gain if this is just a scam? Just a thousand believers. And then what?
I don't know but this doesn't make any sense to me. And if there was no numerology in this hoax, if TS created and found that numerology, how can it be possible to happen that fits perfectly with 7 7 7 to the date of 9 9 9? TS also showed the possibility of it and it is almost impossible. And if Michael is dead, then the family decided for the dates of the funeral and the memorial. So the family is in this scam, murder whatever you name it thing? If Michael is alive in which I 100% believe that he is, he MUST be the one who arranged these dates. And what is the possibility of Michael arranging these dates as '77 days from the “death” on June 25 to 9-9-09; and 7 days from the “burial” to 9-9-09' just by a chance? This is the main issue that makes TS reliable to me.
All I'm saying is, if there's a murder the family has to be on it. If there's a scam, TMZ, Sony and some of MJ's friends has to be on it. And these two issues don't make any sense to me.
But thank you so so much for this interesting investigation. I learned more with your posts SD. Thank you.
Yep, those (among others) are the questions I would like to see a good answer to. To me TS is still the most reliable source with the most believable theory.
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With the fact being that Michael is a Christian and believes in Jesus Christ, that doesn’t mean the majority of the population of fans do. So I find it impossible to think that these Corp Executives would design a scenario with such spiritual foundation as the end of the age and the return of Christ, like TS has shown. Putting on the whole armor of God would not even ring a bell with them. But that is what is will take to fight this battle.
Michael’s statement to the circle group in which he speaks of the four years, combined with lyrics to so many of his songs show where Michael’s thinking was heading. There has been recent reporting of the founder of WIKILEAKS and there is huge scandal around this man because he has been bringing to light from a source that broke into top Government files and reported cables of information going back and forth between the Governments about serious issues. One being the UN involvement of an Extraterrestrial Ambassador. Why would there be such if our Goverments didn't know things we are being left in the dark on. They don't want us to know such events because it would cause a collapse of our monetary system. But above all else they fear power being taken from them. Because they are not certian of the purpose of all the activity that has been increasing in the last couple of years in the heavens.
There is much talk that these “I think of them as spirit beings or beings of light” are disarming our weapons of destruction. They know we are capable at this very minute of destroying this planet and ourselves. God’s word says if you destroy my creation I will destroy you. Fair enough wouldn’t you say ? The point is, this man is not a saint, and he had done some ugly things that they are focusing on right now, but there is an attempt to discredit the true information that his informant brought to the surface after hacking into this Gov information. Remember the view is if the messenger is corrupt the message is false. But that is not always the truth. I am looking at his informant who is a computer genius and tech Geek you might say.
I am certain Michael has very much insight to the things of this nature. And probably from way back. This is not new information. Our Gov is trying to cover up much of this information by making it look false and saying they are experiment planes. But recent information is proving otherwise.There are officials from inside NORAD that state these things are very true. So the message that Michael has been trying for years to give is that we need to wake up and make a change in ourselves so that we can be part of whatever God is orchestrating on this earth to put an end to evil and corruption.
If it be NWO, Illuminati, or anything associated, it is corruption at a high level and it will take an act of God to change anything in this world at this point. There are some very ugly things that take place on this earth that we couldn't wrap our minds around, because we tend to live in a bubble. If it does't directly affect us, we don't pay attention to it. But I am afraid soon, some very big things are going to start affecting us.
I have a segment on my YT channel about Angels. It gives descriptive information on the Armies of the Heavens. This information comes from some of the lost writing of the bible, Enoch who was the grandfather of Noah, lived in the days of the Giants and he knew how they came to be. Enoch had many encounters with Angels. He wrote of the Angel Hierarchy and the purpose they served. They are enormous and powerful spirit beings of Light. They can present themselves as humans in order to deliver messages from God, and hundreds of thousands of people have written of their encounters with them. They exist at a higher frequency than we do so we can’t see them, but they are all around and they can materialize at will on God’s command. I BeLIEve IMHO that God is sending his armies of Angels to protect us from mass annilation of ourselves.
The bible specifically calls out Principalities and Powers which are ranks of Angels, fallen and otherwise. When the scripture says “we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against Principalities and Powers , and rules of darkness and spiritual wickedness in HIGH places” It is specifically telling us where the battle is raging that we can’t see, but can feel the effects in our everyday life based on the mindset up people all over the world.
You have to ask yourself, what would poses someone to go out and rape and kill a child in cold blood? Satan himself that’s who. God did not create man with a mental imbalance capable of that, but Satan can infiltrate and cause this to happen if we are off guard.
So the bottom line being, only Michael could be behind this strategy to expose Satan, in whatever government or other form he is taking and show US that we have to be prepared. We can only fight Satan through LOVE, because that is like a poison to him. None of the outside corporations would support such an elaborate experiment and use these measures to test people. They don’t have that level of understand of God and his capabilities.
If so they would have never treated Michael the way they did, period. Michael said this was his show and he was doing things his way!!!
YOU GO Michael…You have an Army beside you!!! And you are so very much LOVED.!!!
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