Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: razza1987 on November 12, 2010, 03:50:54 AM
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I was just reading the press release for the album tracklisting.
Did anyone else notice the following:
On December 14th, Epic Records in conjunction with the Estate of Michael Jackson, will release the much-anticipated new album MICHAEL. The album contains ten tracks, produced by an esteemed group of producers along with Michael Jackson. While primarily focused on songs that Michael worked on recently, there are also earlier compelling tracks.
Interesting. Just thought I'd mention it :)
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:o :shock: :o :? :shock:
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hahaha :lol:
That was my reaction too. I had the same reaction when This Is It came out and he was listed on the credits as the producer of the album
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Also, what about "songs Michael worked on recently" ? How could have he worked on songs recently, assuming this means last little while and not past 9 years? ;)
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Also, what about "songs Michael worked on recently" ? How could have he worked on songs recently, assuming this means last little while and not past 9 years? ;)
Haha good point. I didn't think about that either lol
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And also:
“Hold My Hand”, a duet with Akon, is a song they recorded in 2007. A handwritten note from Michael belonging to his Estate indicated his desire that “Hold My Hand” be the first single on his next project.
Would be interesting to know when that letter was written lol
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Haha yes and why exactly? Was MJ planning to die and have an album released after his "death"? Of course he was! ;) :lol:
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haha some of this is so funny and I wonder why more people don't question things when they see that Michael is credited as being producers on things- especially for the This Is It cd. Even before I became a beLIEver I as questioning that :lol:
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I know! Too true! Surely some people out there will think it's weird. I already saw a bundle of comments on his Facebook page when 'Breaking News' was released saying "How can he release this? I thought he was dead!" and stuff along those lines. I mean, until now I've wondered whether people will ever see the clues that are being given to make people see the inconsistencies and I've often thought they are too subtle for people to see but things like this should hopefully get some minds going :D
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haha I noticed those comments on his Facebook page too LOL and on You Tube haha.
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The SONGS are produced by Michael. Not the album.
They say "On December 14th, Epic Records in conjunction with the Estate of Michael Jackson, will release the much-anticipated new album MICHAEL"
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The SONGS are produced by Michael. Not the album.
Some of the songs weren't meant to be finished until the last few months
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hahaha :lol:
That was my reaction too. I had the same reaction when This Is It came out and he was listed on the credits as the producer of the album
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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First, it's important where did this information come from. Is it from an official source?
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http://breakingnews.michaeljackson.com/ (http://breakingnews.michaeljackson.com/)
It's on the official website :D
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http://breakingnews.michaeljackson.com/
It's on the official website :D
Was just about to post that, you beat me to it!! :D :D :D :D
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http://breakingnews.michaeljackson.com/
It's on the official website :D
Was just about to post that, you beat me to it!! :D :D :D :D
haha I beat you to it :)
You can't get more official than the official site :lol:
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And also:
“Hold My Hand”, a duet with Akon, is a song they recorded in 2007. A handwritten note from Michael belonging to his Estate indicated his desire that “Hold My Hand” be the first single on his next project.
Would be interesting to know when that letter was written lol
My bet that the answer is....recently :)
http://breakingnews.michaeljackson.com/ (http://breakingnews.michaeljackson.com/)
OFFICIAL MICHAEL JACKSON SINGLE
HOLD MY HAND
TO BE RELEASED ON NOVEMBER 15th
MICHAEL Album Track Listing Unveiled
New York, NY - The first official single from the forthcoming Michael Jackson album MICHAEL will be released globally on Monday, November 15th at 12:01am EST. The song entitled “Hold My Hand” will be unveiled on www.michaeljackson.com (http://www.michaeljackson.com) and for sale digitally thereafter.
“Hold My Hand”, a duet with Akon, is a song they recorded in 2007. A handwritten note from Michael belonging to his Estate indicated his desire that “Hold My Hand” be the first single on his next project. However, in its unfinished state, the song leaked out in 2008. Akon recently completed the new and final production of “Hold My Hand.”
Akon comments, “The world was not ready to hear ‘Hold My Hand’ when it leaked a couple years ago. We were devastated about it. But its time has definitely come; now in its final state, it has become an incredible, beautiful, anthemic song. I’m so proud to have had the chance to work with Michael, one of my all time idols.”
On December 14th, Epic Records in conjunction with the Estate of Michael Jackson, will release the much-anticipated new album MICHAEL. The album contains ten tracks, produced by an esteemed group of producers along with Michael Jackson. While primarily focused on songs that Michael worked on recently, there are also earlier compelling tracks.
MICHAEL is the first release in nine years of new material by one of music’s most beloved icons whose artistry continues to touch new generations of fans. The album marks another release under the new agreement between the Estate of Michael Jackson and Sony Music announced in March that continues the label’s 35-year relationship with Michael and his music. During that time, Michael sold hundreds of millions of records, had 13 #1 singles and released the pop culture phenomenon “Thriller,” which remains music’s all-time bestselling album with more than 100 million copies sold worldwide.
MICHAEL ALBUM TRACKLISTING:
1. Hold My Hand (Duet with Akon)
2. Hollywood Tonight
3. Keep Your Head Up
4. (I Like) The Way You Love Me
5. Monster (Featuring 50 Cent)
6. Best Of Joy
7. Breaking News
8. (I Can’t Make It) Another Day (Featuring Lenny Kravitz)
9. Behind The Mask
10. Much Too Soon
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And also:
“Hold My Hand”, a duet with Akon, is a song they recorded in 2007. A handwritten note from Michael belonging to his Estate indicated his desire that “Hold My Hand” be the first single on his next project.
Would be interesting to know when that letter was written lol
My bet that the answer is....recently :)
http://breakingnews.michaeljackson.com/ (http://breakingnews.michaeljackson.com/)
That's what I was thinking too :lol:
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Recently ... this is a very vague word. How much time lately mean for you? 1 year or 2?? A few months?
I think that in the music world recently is a term that should not exceed one year, because last year's music, for example, are already considered outdated.
I find it odd to use that word to describe acts of those who have "died". The most correct would not specify the year or say just before he died?
But people connected with Michael always insist "RECENTLY" - can only be little message for us.
I love it :!:
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On the back of the This Is It CD it does say - 'Album Produced By Michael Jackson & John McClain' and of course, 'Always great to sing with my brother'.
Can't wait to see the credits on this new album.
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“Hold My Hand”, a duet with Akon, is a song they recorded in 2007. A handwritten note from Michael belonging to his Estate indicated his desire that “Hold My Hand” be the first single on his next project. However, in its unfinished state, the song leaked out in 2008. Akon recently completed the new and final production of “Hold My Hand.”
Akon comments, “The world was not ready to hear ‘Hold My Hand’ when it leaked a couple years ago. We were devastated about it. But its time has definitely come; now in its final state, it has become an incredible, beautiful, anthemic song. I’m so proud to have had the chance to work with Michael, one of my all time idols.”
Have you heard Hold My Hand - the one that's been on YouTube all this time? I sure doesn't sound "unfinished" to me. It sounds better on my car stereo than most of the music I get through iTunes. I think this whole conversation about Michael's songs being in demo versions and unfinished is total BS.
[youtube:1v3xce7f]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjzB49ixkf4&feature=related[/youtube:1v3xce7f]
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“Hold My Hand”, a duet with Akon, is a song they recorded in 2007. A handwritten note from Michael belonging to his Estate indicated his desire that “Hold My Hand” be the first single on his next project. However, in its unfinished state, the song leaked out in 2008. Akon recently completed the new and final production of “Hold My Hand.”
Akon comments, “The world was not ready to hear ‘Hold My Hand’ when it leaked a couple years ago. We were devastated about it. But its time has definitely come; now in its final state, it has become an incredible, beautiful, anthemic song. I’m so proud to have had the chance to work with Michael, one of my all time idols.”
Have you heard Hold My Hand - the one that's been on YouTube all this time? I sure doesn't sound "unfinished" to me. It sounds better on my car stereo than most of the music I get through iTunes. I think this whole conversation about Michael's songs being in demo versions and unfinished is total BS.
[youtube:2y8odkyh]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjzB49ixkf4&feature=related[/youtube:2y8odkyh]
Maybe it's been remixed a bit or something so that it sounds different to the version that everyone has already heard
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I listen Hold My hand almost every day ...and I think is a beautiful song and sooo finished.. :D
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"Hold My Hand"
Writer: Claude Kelly
Duet with Akon and Jackson
Leaked onto the Internet in 2008
Failed to make Akon's 2008 Freedom album due to the Internet leak
Confirmed to be the first single on Jackson's 2010 Michael album, Jackson's first posthumous album. This version is slated to have more of Jackson's vocals.
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So he's the producer..again? Curioussssss ;) ;) ;)
"Place Without No Name" is nowhere on the tracklist! :cry: :cry: =[
I was looking forward to that....although I love Another Day with MJ and Lenny! xD
:( :(
Hopefully the list will get updated???????
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I don't find it strange that Michael is listed as a producer. He had worked on all of these songs, even the ones that were supposedly not finished yet, so he should be listed as a producer.
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“Hold My Hand”, a duet with Akon, is a song they recorded in 2007. A handwritten note from Michael belonging to his Estate indicated his desire that “Hold My Hand” be the first single on his next project. However, in its unfinished state, the song leaked out in 2008. Akon recently completed the new and final production of “Hold My Hand.”
Akon comments, “The world was not ready to hear ‘Hold My Hand’ when it leaked a couple years ago. We were devastated about it. But its time has definitely come; now in its final state, it has become an incredible, beautiful, anthemic song. I’m so proud to have had the chance to work with Michael, one of my all time idols.”
Have you heard Hold My Hand - the one that's been on YouTube all this time? I sure doesn't sound "unfinished" to me. It sounds better on my car stereo than most of the music I get through iTunes. I think this whole conversation about Michael's songs being in demo versions and unfinished is total BS.
Maybe it's been remixed a bit or something so that it sounds different to the version that everyone has already heard
I highly doubt what we'll hear will be any different (but hey, I've been wrong before).
By definition, a remix is an alternative version of a song, made from an original version. This means there was already a finished version, not just an unfinished one like they're claiming. More contradictions.
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7. Breaking News
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:shock: "breaking news" is number 7!!
number 7 was also "man in the mirror","heal the world","human nature","money",or "butterflies".....
i realize that all the number 7 are songs with an important meaning in this hoax.... don't you think??? :lol:
*LUNA*
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What does exactly the word "produce" mean?
Can you actually "produce" a song, keep it in the closet, "die", and then have it finished/mixed and released by someone else and still be the "producer"? :?
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Its the same with Tupac!
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I know! Too true! Surely some people out there will think it's weird. I already saw a bundle of comments on his Facebook page when 'Breaking News' was released saying "How can he release this? I thought he was dead!" and stuff along those lines. I mean, until now I've wondered whether people will ever see the clues that are being given to make people see the inconsistencies and I've often thought they are too subtle for people to see but things like this should hopefully get some minds going :D
I have seen this too. Just have to laugh - what a bunch of idiots!!!
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What does exactly the word "produce" mean?
Can you actually "produce" a song, keep it in the closet, "die", and then have it finished/mixed and released by someone else and still be the "producer"? :?
Take a look...explaination from google search on a YAHOO! answers
The producer is usually the one that puts the "whole package together"
It can have many meanings
He might find that artist
The artist might find him.
He usually helps select the songs on any releases,
May help put together a band, or backing group,
dancers, backup singers etc
These are ALL things that a producer "might" do...?
book the acts in clubs,
select a recording studio
select the musicians, if different than the artists reg group
help select the songs,
help select a co-writer
engineer the board during recording
some get directly involved in the recording, are on the recording.
Be involved in the "mixdown/mastering" process
help find a label, or start one
help find distribution for any releases.
Some artists produce their own songs,
some don't.
He might "produce the artist", but not the music,
meaning he helps with the general "marketing" but not involved in the song process.
some Co-Produce, meaning they "share" the responsibilities
Source(s):
producing is a very "general" term, that can take on many meanings, depending on the needs of the artist.
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This was clearly intentional.
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I was just reading the press release for the album tracklisting.
Did anyone else notice the following:
On December 14th, Epic Records in conjunction with the Estate of Michael Jackson, will release the much-anticipated new album MICHAEL. The album contains ten tracks, produced by an esteemed group of producers along with Michael Jackson. While primarily focused on songs that Michael worked on recently, there are also earlier compelling tracks.
Interesting. Just thought I'd mention it :)
interesting... but... link please :)
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The link is posted on the first page of this thread.
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"Producer" is a very broad term in the world of music. Especially in pop/hip-hop.
In Rock music a producer would be more like a director that would help set the band in the right direction to broaden their sound. Someone who has a good idea of how to record sound and get the most out of a studio.
In pop music a producer can serve that purpose, but often also creates and arranges the musical accompaniment and assists in composition of the song. But it really only takes as much as deciding the composition of a song and having input on the musical aspects to get a producers credit in the musical world.
I think a lot of you are reading too far into this. And understandably so, if I didn't have experience as a (small time) producer myself I would be asking questions too.
So just by Michael recording the original demos and being the original visionary on the songs gets him a producers credit.
As for TII, he got a producers credit because he would have been considered a producer of the TII live show. So they basically just transferred his credit over to the film.
Even if he is still alive, these would not be signs pointing to that fact.
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Interesting, there's no mention of the "fact" that he is dead. Anyway. Not on the press releases, descriptions for the song, the album, anything.
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You could argue that there was so much press coverage of his death that it's just understood. Like they shouldn't need to throw "RIP" phrases everywhere and on everything MJ related that comes out. If you don't know he is "dead" then you have probably been living under a rock.
Also, not everyone likes to be reminded that their favorite pop icon is dead and gone.
I'm still on the fence about all of this, but I don't think that the lack of acknowledgement of his death is proof that he's still alive.
My father died in 1999 and I don't throw a "RIP" or "God rest his soul" out every time I speak his name or whatever.
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I'm curious as to why all of these people so certain of MJ's "death" come to a site that believe/know he is alive. Keep coming, "don't stop till you get enough", we might just make beLIEvers out of you yet! :D
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I'm here because a lot of this hoax stuff makes sense.
But also a lot of it is people just being ignorant in certain areas. Not that I know anymore than anyone else, but I've been lurking here for a while (and watching various hoax vids on youtube since the 'death') and most of what I see is nonsense. It seems when some people get eaten up with the hoax they start to over analyze everything. It's never a bad thing to have someone that's not completely biased one way or another.
Like I said, a lot of things don't add up, and that's why I'm here. I don't think I can completely commit one way or the other until some kind of proof is out there. As of now, the only proof of his death we have is press coverage and an iffy/shady death certificate.
I really hope he's still alive, I think it would be the biggest publicity stunt in the history of the world. And I really believe that if anyone had enough money and resources to pull something like this off, it's MJ.
So dont knock the ones of us who are unsure, we're only here to keep a balance of sorts. This whole thing is about asking questions, you don't have to be completely on board with every hoax theory. Personally, I think the NWO and Illuminati stuff is blown way out of proportion and I try to steer clear of it. So that's really the only aspect that I am completely closed off to.