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Title: TIAI November 11
Post by: GodhaschosenMJ on November 11, 2010, 10:43:27 AM
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=KJV (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Joshua%201:8,9&version=KJV)

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Joshua 1:8
8This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.

Joshua 1:9
9Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: Sarahli on November 11, 2010, 11:05:03 AM
Hi TS. Thank you and God bless you.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: ~Souza~ on November 11, 2010, 11:13:25 AM

Hey, TS is back! I always have to read the King James versions twice to actually see what it says, but I guess the main point is that we should stay true to the message and the truth, keep spreading it and don't be afraid to do so, because if we stay true to it we will eventually be succesful. That's what I get out of it.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: MissG on November 11, 2010, 11:16:02 AM
What book of the law?
*can you teach me how to moonwalk moment*
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: _Anna_ on November 11, 2010, 11:16:28 AM
The old English is not my thing, and together with the Bible style it's even worse. I hardly understand the first paragraph. Please could anyone write it in an English we all can understand? I just want to understand the meaning.


I understand the 1:9 one. But not the first. Almost at all.

EDIT.

Could it make a reference with the "book of law" at TS's posts? That people should go back and re-read again what he said an learn and then make their own conclusions out of it?
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: PJ4MJ on November 11, 2010, 11:17:53 AM
To me, it means:  Stay the course, keep the faith, and don't be dismayed by all the distractions and confusion that seeks to cause a lot of doubt and dismay.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: MissG on November 11, 2010, 11:18:32 AM
Quote from: "_Anna_"
The old English is not my thing, and together with the Bible style it's even worse. I hardly understand the first paragraph. Please could anyone write it in an English we all can understand? I just want to understand the meaning.


I understand the 1:9 one. But not the first. Almost at all.

EDIT.

Could it make a reference with the "bppk of law" at TS's posts? That people should go back and re-read again what he said an leanr and then make their own conclusions out of it?

Keep this Book of the Law always on your lips; meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do everything written in it. Then you will be prosperous and successful.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: _Anna_ on November 11, 2010, 11:19:45 AM
Thank you, Gema. Yes, so it seems I understood it right.

Could that "book of law" be TIAI?
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: MissG on November 11, 2010, 11:21:12 AM
The one I can see is the Liber AL vel legis Sub Figura CCXX.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: MissG on November 11, 2010, 11:22:38 AM
This link I found.
http://www.bookofthelaw.com/ (http://www.bookofthelaw.com/)
May be makes no sense since we are talking about a Bible passage.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: MissG on November 11, 2010, 11:25:34 AM
Or is he refering to the book of Joshua?
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Author: The Book of Joshua does not explicitly name its author. More than likely Joshua the son of Nun, the successor of Moses as leader over Israel, penned much of this book. The latter part of the book was written by at least one other person after the death of Joshua. It is also possible that several sections were edited / compiled following Joshua's death.

Date of Writing: The Book of Joshua was likely written between 1400 and 1370 B.C.
http://www.gotquestions.org/Book-of-Joshua.html (http://www.gotquestions.org/Book-of-Joshua.html)


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Practical Application: One of the key verses of the Book of Joshua is 1:8 “Do not let this Book of the Law depart from your mouth; meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do everything written in it.” The Old Testament is replete with stories of how the people “forgot” God and His Word and suffered terrible consequences. For the Christian, the Word of God is our lifeblood. If we neglect it, our lives will suffer accordingly. But if we take to heart the principle of verse 1:8, we will be complete and able to be of use in God’s kingdom (2 Timothy 3:16-17), and we will find that God’s promises in Joshua 1:8-9 will be ours as well.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: MissG on November 11, 2010, 11:28:35 AM
1:8 “Do not let this Book of the Law depart from your mouth; meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do everything written in it.” The Old Testament is replete with stories of how the people “forgot” God and His Word and suffered terrible consequences.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: PJ4MJ on November 11, 2010, 11:34:54 AM
From the English Standard Version Study Bible, and what I think are key messages (in bold):

Josh. 1:5–9 Three times the Lord charges Joshua to be strong and courageous, words reminiscent of Joshua's earlier commissioning under Moses (see Deut. 31:6–8, 23). Joshua will need strength and courage to accept his task (you shall cause this people to inherit the land; Josh. 1:6); to obey the Torah (Book of the Law [v. 8]; most likely this would have included at least the book of Deuteronomy or portions thereof [see Deut. 31:26, “this law”]); and to resist being terrified (do not be frightened, and do not be dismayed; Josh. 1:9). Most difficult of all will be the middle responsibility—namely, to make the Lord's instructions (Hb. Torah) integral to who he is and what he does (v. 8a), meditating on them constantly so as to do them (v. 8b).  Thus the middle exhortation is made emphatic by the addition of two small words: “only be strong and very courageous.” Given Joshua's leadership responsibilities, this charge to be strong and courageous would be daunting were it not for the framing promises: I will be with you. I will not leave you or forsake you (v. 5); and the Lord your God is with you wherever you go (v. 9). Fortified by these assurances of the Lord's abiding presence, Joshua is empowered to receive his commission with courage. The Hebrew terminology used in these assurances has nothing to do with worldly wealth or worldly success, but has everything to do with accomplishing one's mission and acting with keen insight in any circumstance that presents itself. Only when one fails to “ask counsel from the Lord” (9:14) is such insight lacking.

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Try to look past the literal meaning and put it in the context of the hoax.  Michael's still here and still guiding us.  Look past all of the distractions and confusion going on and stay focused on the ultimate truth; the real mission.  That's how I see it.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: ~Souza~ on November 11, 2010, 11:40:40 AM

I think TS is be referring to Michael's message (Michael's Book of Law), yet there is a "Book of the Law", here it is, it might be relevant:

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[center:24zy9rcg]The Book of the Law

Liber AL vel Legis

sub figura CCXX

as delivered by XCIII = 418 to DCLXVI

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Chapter I

1. Had! The manifestation of Nuit.

2. The unveiling of the company of heaven.

3. Every man and every woman is a star.

4. Every number is infinite; there is no difference.

5. Help me, o warrior lord of Thebes, in my unveiling before the Children of men!

6. Be thou Hadit, my secret centre, my heart & my tongue!

7. Behold! it is revealed by Aiwass the minister of Hoor-paar-kraat.

8. The Khabs is in the Khu, not the Khu in the Khabs.

9. Worship then the Khabs, and behold my light shed over you!

10. Let my servants be few & secret: they shall rule the many & the known.

11. These are fools that men adore; both their Gods & their men are fools.

12. Come forth, o children, under the stars, & take your fill of love!

13. I am above you and in you. My ecstasy is in yours. My joy is to see your joy.

14. Above, the gemmed azure is
The naked splendour of Nuit;
She bends in ecstasy to kiss
The secret ardours of Hadit.
The winged globe, the starry blue,
Are mine, O Ankh-af-na-khonsu!
15. Now ye shall know that the chosen priest & apostle of infinite space is the prince-priest the Beast; and in his woman called the Scarlet Woman is all power given. They shall gather my children into their fold: they shall bring the glory of the stars into the hearts of men.

16. For he is ever a sun, and she a moon. But to him is the winged secret flame, and to her the stooping starlight.

17. But ye are not so chosen.

18. Burn upon their brows, o splendrous serpent!

19. O azure-lidded woman, bend upon them!

20. The key of the rituals is in the secret word which I have given unto him.

21. With the God & the Adorer I am nothing: they do not see me. They are as upon the earth; I am Heaven, and there is no other God than me, and my lord Hadit.

22. Now, therefore, I am known to ye by my name Nuit, and to him by a secret name which I will give him when at last he knoweth me. Since I am Infinite Space, and the Infinite Stars thereof, do ye also thus. Bind nothing! Let there be no difference made among you between any one thing & any other thing; for thereby there cometh hurt.

23. But whoso availeth in this, let him be the chief of all!

24. I am Nuit, and my word is six and fifty.

25. Divide, add, multiply, and understand.

26. Then saith the prophet and slave of the beauteous one: Who am I, and what shall be the sign? So she answered him, bendingdown, a lambent flame of blue, all-touching, all penetrant, her lovely hands upon the black earth, & her lithe body arched for love, and her soft feet not hurting the little flowers: Thou knowest! And the sign shall be my ecstasy, the consciousness of the continuity of existence, the omnipresence of my body.

27. Then the priest answered & said unto the Queen of Space, kissing her lovely brows, and the dew of her light bathing his whole body in a sweet-smelling perfume of sweat: O Nuit, continuous one of Heaven, let it be ever thus; that men speak not of Thee as One but as None; and let them speak not of thee at all, since thou art continuous!

28. None, breathed the light, faint & faery, of the stars, and two.

29. For I am divided for love's sake, for the chance of union.

30. This is the creation of the world, that the pain of division is as nothing, and the joy of dissolution all.

31. For these fools of men and their woes care not thou at all! They feel little; what is, is balanced by weak joys; but ye are my chosen ones.

32. Obey my prophet! follow out the ordeals of my knowledge! seek me only! Then the joys of my love will redeem ye from all pain. This is so: I swear it by the vault of my body; by my sacred heart and tongue; by all I can give, by all I desire of ye all.

33. Then the priest fell into a deep trance or swoon, & said unto the Queen of Heaven; Write unto us the ordeals; write unto us the rituals; write unto us the law!

34. But she said: the ordeals I write not: the rituals shall be half known and half concealed: the Law is for all.

35. This that thou writest is the threefold book of Law.

36. My scribe Ankh-af-na-khonsu, the priest of the princes, shall not in one letter change this book; but lest there be folly, he shall comment thereupon by the wisdom of Ra-Hoor-Khuit.

37. Also the mantras and spells; the obeah and the wanga; the work of the wand and the work of the sword; these he shall learn and teach.

38. He must teach; but he may make severe the ordeals.

39. The word of the Law is THELEMA.

40. Who calls us Thelemites will do no wrong, if he look but close into the word. For there are therein Three Grades, the Hermit, and the Lover, and the man of Earth. Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

41. The word of Sin is Restriction. O man! refuse not thy wife, if she will! O lover, if thou wilt, depart! There is no bond that can unite the divided but love: all else is a curse. Accursed! Accursed be it to the aeons! Hell.

42. Let it be that state of manyhood bound and loathing. So with thy all; thou hast no right but to do thy will.

43. Do that, and no other shall say nay.

44. For pure will, unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is every way perfect.

45. The Perfect and the Perfect are one Perfect and not two; nay, are none!

46. Nothing is a secret key of this law. Sixty-one the Jews call it; I call it eight, eighty, four hundred & eighteen.

47. But they have the half: unite by thine art so that all disappear.

48. My prophet is a fool with his one, one, one; are not they the Ox, and none by the Book?

49. Abrogate are all rituals, all ordeals, all words and signs. Ra-Hoor-Khuit hath taken his seat in the East at the Equinox of the Gods; and let Asar be with Isa, who also are one. But they are not of me. Let Asar be the adorant, Isa the sufferer; Hoor in his secret name and splendour is the Lord initiating.

50. There is a word to say about the Hierophantic task. Behold! there are three ordeals in one, and it may be given in three ways. The gross must pass through fire; let the fine be tried in intellect, and the lofty chosen ones in the highest. Thus ye have star & star, system & system; let not one know well the other!

51. There are four gates to one palace; the floor of that palace is of silver and gold; lapis lazuli & jasper are there; and all rare scents; jasmine & rose, and the emblems of death. Let him enter in turn or at once the four gates; let him stand on the floor of the palace. Will he not sink? Amn. Ho! warrior, if thy servant sink? But there are means and means. Be goodly therefore: dress ye all in fine apparel; eat rich foods and drink sweet wines and wines that foam! Also, take your fill and will of love as ye will, when, where and with whom ye will! But always unto me.

52. If this be not aright; if ye confound the space-marks, saying: They are one; or saying, They are many; if the ritual be not ever unto me: then expect the direful judgments of Ra Hoor Khuit!

53. This shall regenerate the world, the little world my sister, my heart & my tongue, unto whom I send this kiss. Also, o scribe and prophet, though thou be of the princes, it shall not assuage thee nor absolve thee. But ecstasy be thine and joy of earth: ever To me! To me!

54. Change not as much as the style of a letter; for behold! thou, o prophet, shalt not behold all these mysteries hidden therein.

55. The child of thy bowels, he shall behold them.

56. Expect him not from the East, nor from the West; for from no expected house cometh that child. Aum! All words are sacred and all prophets true; save only that they understand a little; solve the first half of the equation, leave the second unattacked. But thou hast all in the clear light, and some, though not all, in the dark.

57. Invoke me under my stars! Love is the law, love under will. Nor let the fools mistake love; for there are love and love. There is the dove, and there is the serpent. Choose ye well! He, my prophet, hath chosen, knowing the law of the fortress, and the great mystery of the House of God.

All these old letters of my Book are aright; but [Tzaddi] is not the Star. This also is secret: my prophet shall reveal it to the wise.

58. I give unimaginable joys on earth: certainty, not faith, while in life, upon death; peace unutterable, rest, ecstasy; nor do I demand aught in sacrifice.

59. My incense is of resinous woods & gums; and there is no blood therein: because of my hair the trees of Eternity.

60. My number is 11, as all their numbers who are of us. The Five Pointed Star, with a Circle in the Middle, & the circle is Red. My colour is black to the blind, but the blue & gold are seen of the seeing. Also I have asecret glory for them that love me.

61. But to love me is better than all things: if under the night stars in the desert thou presently burnest mine incense before me, invoking me with a pure heart, and the Serpent flame therein, thou shalt come a little to lie in my bosom. For one kiss wilt thou then be willing to give all; but whoso gives one particle of dust shall lose all in that hour. Ye shall gather goods and store of women and spices; ye shall wear rich jewels; ye shall exceed the nations of the earth in spendour & pride; but always in the love of me, and so shall ye come to my joy. I charge you earnestly to come before me in a single robe, and covered with a rich headdress. I love you! I yearn to you! Pale or purple, veiled or voluptuous, I who am all pleasure and purple, and drunkenness of the innermost sense, desire you. Put on the wings, and arouse the coiled splendour within you: come unto me!

62. At all my meetings with you shall the priestess say -- and her eyes shall burn with desire as she stands bare and rejoicing in my secret temple -- To me! To me! calling forth the flame of the hearts of all in her love-chant.

63. Sing the rapturous love-song unto me! Burn to me perfumes! Wear to me jewels! Drink to me, for I love you! I love you!

64. I am the blue-lidded daughter of Sunset; I am the naked brilliance of the voluptuous night-sky.

65. To me! To me!

66. The Manifestation of Nuit is at an end.

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Chapter II

1. Nu! the hiding of Hadit.

2. Come! all ye, and learn the secret that hath not yet been revealed. I, Hadit, am the complement of Nu, my bride. I am not extended, and Khabs is the name of my House.

3. In the sphere I am everywhere the centre, as she, the circumference, is nowhere found.

4. Yet she shall be known & I never.

5. Behold! the rituals of the old time are black. Let the evil ones be cast away; let the good ones be purged by the prophet! Then shall this Knowledge go aright.

6. I am the flame that burns in every heart of man, and in the core of every star. I am Life, and the giver of Life, yet therefore is theknowledge of me the knowledge of death.

7. I am the Magician and the Exorcist. I am the axle of the wheel, and the cube in the circle. "Come unto me" is a foolish word: for it is I that go.

8. Who worshipped Heru-pa-kraath have worshipped me; ill, for I am the worshipper.

9. Remember all ye that existence is pure joy; that all the sorrows are but as shadows; they pass & are done; but there is that which remains.

10. O prophet! thou hast ill will to learn this writing.

11. I see thee hate the hand & the pen; but I am stronger.

12. Because of me in Thee which thou knewest not.

13. for why? Because thou wast the knower, and me.

14. Now let there be a veiling of this shrine: now let the light devour men and eat them up with blindness!

15. For I am perfect, being Not; and my number is nine by the fools; but with the just I am eight, and one in eight: Which is vital, for I am none indeed. The Empress and the King are not of me; for there is a further secret.

16. I am The Empress & the Hierophant. Thus eleven, as my bride is eleven.

17. Hear me, ye people of sighing!
The sorrows of pain and regret
Are left to the dead and the dying,
The folk that not know me as yet.
18. These are dead, these fellows; they feel not. We are not for the poor and sad: the lords of the earth are our kinsfolk.

19. Is a God to live in a dog? No! but the highest are of us. They shall rejoice, our chosen: who sorroweth is not of us.

20. Beauty and strength, leaping laughter and delicious languor, force and fire, are of us.

21. We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit: let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world. Think not, o king, upon that lie: That Thou Must Die: verily thou shalt not die, but live. Now let it be understood: If the body of the King dissolve, he shall remain in pure ecstasy for ever. Nuit! Hadit! Ra-Hoor-Khuit! The Sun, Strength & Sight, Light; these are for the servants of the Star & the Snake.

22. I am the Snake that giveth Knowledge & Delight and bright glory, and stir the hearts of men with drunkenness. To worship me take wine and strange drugs whereof I will tell my prophet, & be drunk thereof! They shall not harm ye at all. It is a lie, this folly against self. The exposure of innocence is a lie. Be strong, o man! lust, enjoy all things of sense and rapture: fear not that any God shall deny thee for this.

23. I am alone: there is no God where I am.

24. Behold! these be grave mysteries; for there are also of my friends who be hermits. Now think not to find them in the forest or on the mountain; but in beds of purple, caressed by magnificent beasts of women with large limbs, and fire and light in their eyes, and masses of flaming hair about them; there shall ye find them. Ye shall see them at rule, at victorious armies, at all the joy; and there shall be in them a joy a million times greater than this. Beware lest any force another, King against King! Love one another with burning hearts; on the low men trample in the fierce lust of your pride, in the day of your wrath.

25. Ye are against the people, O my chosen!

26. I am the secret Serpent coiled about to spring: in my coiling there is joy. If I lift up my head, I and my Nuit are one. If I droop down mine head, and shoot forth venom, then is rapture of the earth, and I and the earth are one.

27. There is great danger in me; for who doth not understand these runes shall make a great miss. He shall fall down into the pit called Because, and there he shall perish with the dogs of Reason.

28. Now a curse upon Because and his kin!

29. May Because be accursed for ever!

30. If Will stops and cries Why, invoking Because, then Will stops & does nought.

31. If Power asks why, then is Power weakness.

32. Also reason is a lie; for there is a factor infinite & unknown; & all their words are skew-wise.

33. Enough of Because! Be he damned for a dog!

34. But ye, o my people, rise up & awake!

35. Let the rituals be rightly performed with joy & beauty!

36. There are rituals of the elements and feasts of the times.

37. A feast for the first night of the Prophet and his Bride!

38. A feast for the three days of the writing of the Book of the Law.

39. A feast for Tahuti and the child of the Prophet--secret, O Prophet!

40. A feast for the Supreme Ritual, and a feast for the Equinox of the Gods.

41. A feast for fire and a feast for water; a feast for life and a greater feast for death!

42. A feast every day in your hearts in the joy of my rapture!

43. A feast every night unto Nu, and the pleasure of uttermost delight!

44. Aye! feast! rejoice! there is no dread hereafter. There is the dissolution, and eternal ecstasy in the kisses of Nu.

45. There is death for the dogs.

46. Dost thou fail? Art thou sorry? Is fear in thine heart?

47. Where I am these are not.

48. Pity not the fallen! I never knew them. I am not for them. I console not: I hate the consoled & the consoler.

49. I am unique & conqueror. I am not of the slaves that perish. Be they damned & dead! Amen. (This is of the 4: there is a fifth who is invisible, & therein am I as a babe in an egg. )

50. Blue am I and gold in the light of my bride: but the red gleam is in my eyes; & my spangles are purple & green.

51. Purple beyond purple: it is the light higher than eyesight.

52. There is a veil: that veil is black. It is the veil of the modest woman; it is the veil of sorrow, & the pall of death: this is none of me. Tear down that lying spectre of the centuries: veil not your vices in virtuous words: these vices are my service; ye do well, & I will reward you here and hereafter.

53. Fear not, o prophet, when these words are said, thou shalt not be sorry. Thou art emphatically my chosen; and blessed are the eyes that thou shalt look upon with gladness. But I will hide thee in a mask of sorrow: they that see thee shall fear thou art fallen: but I lift thee up.

54. Nor shall they who cry aloud their folly that thou meanest nought avail; thou shall reveal it: thou availest: they are the slaves of because: They are not of me. The stops as thou wilt; the letters? change them not in style or value!

55. Thou shalt obtain the order & value of the English Alphabet; thou shalt find new symbols to attribute them unto.

56. Begone! ye mockers; even though ye laugh in my honour ye shall laugh not long: then when ye are sad know that I have forsaken you.

57. He that is righteous shall be righteous still; he that is filthy shall be filthy still.

58. Yea! deem not of change: ye shall be as ye are, & not other. Therefore the kings of the earth shall be Kings for ever: the slaves shall serve. There is none that shall be cast down or lifted up: all is ever as it was. Yet there are masked ones my servants: it may be that yonder beggar is a King. A King may choose his garment as he will: there is no certain test: but a beggar cannot hide his poverty.

59. Beware therefore! Love all, lest perchance is a King concealed! Say you so? Fool! If he be a King, thou canst not hurt him.

60. Therefore strike hard & low, and to hell with them, master!

61. There is a light before thine eyes, o prophet, a light undesired, most desirable.

62. I am uplifted in thine heart; and the kisses of the stars rain hard upon thy body.

63. Thou art exhaust in the voluptuous fullness of the inspiration; the expiration is sweeter than death, more rapid and laughterful than a caress of Hell's own worm.

64. Oh! thou art overcome: we are upon thee; our delight is all over thee: hail! hail: prophet of Nu! prophet of Had! prophet of Ra-Hoor-Khu! Now rejoice! now come in our splendour & rapture! Come in our passionate peace, & write sweet words for the Kings.

65. I am the Master: thou art the Holy Chosen One.

66. Write, & find ecstasy in writing! Work, & be our bed in working! Thrill with the joy of life & death! Ah! thy death shall be lovely: whososeeth it shall be glad. Thy death shall be the seal of the promise of our age long love. Come! lift up thine heart & rejoice! We are one; we are none.

67. Hold! Hold! Bear up in thy rapture; fall not in swoon of the excellent kisses!

68. Harder! Hold up thyself! Lift thine head! breathe not so deep -- die!

69. Ah! Ah! What do I feel? Is the word exhausted?

70. There is help & hope in other spells. Wisdom says: be strong! Then canst thou bear more joy. Be not animal; refine thy rapture! If thou drink, drink by the eight and ninety rules of art: if thou love, exceed by delicacy; and if thou do aught joyous, let there be subtlety therein!

71. But exceed! exceed!

72. Strive ever to more! and if thou art truly mine -- and doubt it not, an if thou art ever joyous! -- death is the crown of all.

73. Ah! Ah! Death! Death! thou shalt long for death. Death is forbidden, o man, unto thee.

74. The length of thy longing shall be the strength of its glory. He that lives long & desires death much is ever the King among the Kings.

75. Aye! listen to the numbers & the words:

76. 4 6 3 8 A B K 2 4 A L G M O R 3 Y X 24 89 R P S T O V A L. What meaneth this, o prophet? Thou knowest not; nor shalt thou know ever. There cometh one to follow thee: he shall expound it. But remember, o chose none, to be me; to follow the love of Nu in the star-lit heaven; to look forth upon men, to tell them this glad word.

77. O be thou proud and mighty among men!

78. Lift up thyself! for there is none like unto thee among men or among Gods! Lift up thyself, o my prophet, thy stature shall surpass the stars. They shall worship thy name, foursquare, mystic, wonderful, the number of the man; and the name of thy house 418.

79. The end of the hiding of Hadit; and blessing & worship to the prophet of the lovely Star!

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Chapter III

1. Abrahadabra; the reward of Ra Hoor Khut.

2. There is division hither homeward; there is a word not known. Spelling is defunct; all is not aught. Beware! Hold! Raise the spell of Ra-Hoor-Khuit!

3. Now let it be first understood that I am a god of War and of Vengeance. I shall deal hardly with them.

4. Choose ye an island!

5. Fortify it!

6. Dung it about with enginery of war!

7. I will give you a war-engine.

8. With it ye shall smite the peoples; and none shall stand before you.

9. Lurk! Withdraw! Upon them! this is the Law of the Battle of Conquest: thus shall my worship be about my secret house.

10. Get the stele of revealing itself; set it in thy secret temple -- and that temple is already aright disposed -- & it shall be your Kiblah for ever. It shall not fade, but miraculous colour shall come back to it day after day. Close it in locked glass for a proof to the world.

11. This shall be your only proof. I forbid argument. Conquer! That is enough. I will make easy to you the abstruction from the ill-ordered house in the Victorious City. Thou shalt thyself convey it with worship, o prophet, though thou likest it not. Thou shalt have danger & trouble. Ra-Hoor-Khu is with thee. Worship me with fire & blood; worship me with swords & with spears. Let the woman be girt with a sword before me: let blood flow to my name. Trample down the Heathen; be upon them, o warrior, I will give you of their flesh to eat!

12. Sacrifice cattle, little and big: after a child.

13. But not now.

14. Ye shall see that hour, o blessed Beast, and thou the Scarlet Concubine of his desire!

15. Ye shall be sad thereof.

16. Deem not too eagerly to catch the promises; fear not to undergo the curses. Ye, even ye, know not this meaning all.

17. Fear not at all; fear neither men nor Fates, nor gods, nor anything. Money fear not, nor laughter of the folk folly, nor any other power in heaven or upon the earth or under the earth. Nu is your refuge as Hadit your light; and I am the strength, force, vigour, of your arms.

18. Mercy let be off; damn them who pity! Kill and torture; spare not; be upon them!

19. That stele they shall call the Abomination of Desolation; count well its name, & it shall be to you as 718.

20. Why? Because of the fall of Because, that he is not there again.

21. Set up my image in the East: thou shalt buy thee an image which I will show thee, especial, not unlike the one thou knowest. And it shall be suddenly easy for thee to do this.

22. The other images group around me to support me: let all be worshipped, for they shall cluster to exalt me. I am the visible object of worship; the others are secret; for the Beast & his Bride are they: and for the winners of the Ordeal x. What is this? Thou shalt know.

23. For perfume mix meal & honey & thick leavings of red wine: then oil of Abramelin and olive oil, and afterward soften & smooth down with rich fresh blood.

24. The best blood is of the moon, monthly: then the fresh blood of a child, or dropping from the host of heaven: then of enemies; then of the priest or of the worshippers: last of some beast, no matter what.

25. This burn: of this make cakes & eat unto me. This hath also another use; let it be laid before me, and kept thick with perfumes of your orison: it shall become full of beetles as it were and creeping things sacred unto me.

26. These slay, naming your enemies; & they shall fall before you.

27. Also these shall breed lust & power of lust in you at the eating thereof.

28. Also ye shall be strong in war.

29. Moreover, be they long kept, it is better; for they swell with my force. All before me.

30. My altar is of open brass work: burn thereon in silver or gold!

31. There cometh a rich man from the West who shall pour his gold upon thee.

32. From gold forge steel!

33. Be ready to fly or to smite!

34. But your holy place shall be untouched throughout the centuries: though with fire and sword it be burnt down & shattered, yet an invisible house there standeth, and shall stand until the fall of the Great Equinox; when Hrumachis shall arise and the double-wanded one assume my throne and place. Another prophet shall arise, and bring fresh fever from the skies; another woman shall awakethe lust & worship of the Snake; another soul of God and beast shall mingle in the globed priest; another sacrifice shall stain the tomb; another king shall reign; and blessing no longer be poured To the Hawk-headed mystical Lord!

35. The half of the word of Heru-ra-ha, called Hoor-pa-kraat and Ra-Hoor-Khut.

36. Then said the prophet unto the God:

37. I adore thee in the song --
I am the Lord of Thebes, and I
The inspired forth-speaker of Mentu;
For me unveils the veiled sky,
The self-slain Ankh-af-na-khonsu
Whose words are truth. I invoke, I greet
Thy presence, O Ra-Hoor-Khuit!
Unity uttermost showed!
I adore the might of Thy breath,
Supreme and terrible God,
Who makest the gods and death
To tremble before Thee: --
I, I adore thee!
Appear on the throne of Ra!
Open the ways of the Khu!
Lighten the ways of the Ka!
The ways of the Khabs run through
To stir me or still me!
Aum! let it fill me!
38. So that thy light is in me; & its red flame is as a sword in my hand to push thy order. There is a secret door that I shall make to establish thy way in all the quarters, (these are the adorations, as thou hast written), as it is said:

The light is mine; its rays consume
Me: I have made a secret door
Into the House of Ra and Tum,
Of Khephra and of Ahathoor.
I am thy Theban, O Mentu,
The prophet Ankh-af-na-khonsu!
By Bes-na-Maut my breast I beat;
By wise Ta-Nech I weave my spell.
Show thy star-splendour, O Nuit!
Bid me within thine House to dwell,
O winged snake of light, Hadit!
Abide with me, Ra-Hoor-Khuit!
39. All this and a book to say how thou didst come hither and a reproduction of this ink and paper for ever -- for in it is the word secret & not only in the English -- and thy comment upon this the Book of the Law shall be printed beautifully in red ink and black upon beautiful paper made by hand; and to each man and woman that thou meetest, were it but to dine or to drink at them, it is the Law to give. Then they shall chance to abide in this bliss or no; it is no odds. Do this quickly!

40. But the work of the comment? That is easy; and Hadit burning in thy heart shall make swift and secure thy pen.

41. Establish at thy Kaaba a clerk-house: all must be done well and with business way.

42. The ordeals thou shalt oversee thyself, save only the blind ones. Refuse none, but thou shalt know & destroy the traitors. I am Ra-Hoor-Khuit; and I am powerful to protect my servant. Success is thy proof: argue not; convert not; talk not over much! Them that seek to entrap thee, to overthrow thee, them attack without pity or quarter; & destroy them utterly. Swift as a trodden serpent turn and strike! Be thou yet deadlier than he! Drag down their souls to awful torment: laugh at their fear: spit upon them!

43. Let the Scarlet Woman beware! If pity and compassion and tenderness visit her heart; if she leave my work to toy with old sweetnesses; then shall my vengeance be known. I will slay me her child: I will alienate her heart: I will cast her out from men: as a shrinking and despised harlot shall she crawl through dusk wet streets, and die cold and an-hungered.

44. But let her raise herself in pride! Let her follow me in my way! Let her work the work of wickedness! Let her kill her heart! Let her be loud and adulterous! Let her be covered with jewels, and rich garments, and let her be shameless before all men!

45. Then will I lift her to pinnacles of power: then will I breed from her a child mightier than all the kings of the earth. I will fill her with joy: with my force shall she see & strike at the worship of Nu: she shall achieve Hadit.

46. I am the warrior Lord of the Forties: the Eighties cower before me, & are abased. I will bring you to victory & joy: I will be at your arms in battle & ye shall delight to slay. Success is your proof; courage is your armour; go on, go on, in my strength; & ye shall turn not back for any!

47. This book shall be translated into all tongues: but always with the original in the writing of the Beast; for in the chance shape of the letters and their position to one another: in these are mysteries that no Beast shall divine. Let him not seek to try: but one cometh after him, whence I say not, who shall discover the Key of it all. Then this line drawn is a key: then this circle squared in its failure is a key also. And Abrahadabra. It shall be his child & that strangely. Let him not seek after this; for thereby alone can he fall from it.

48. Now this mystery of the letters is done, and I want to go on to the holier place.

49. I am in a secret fourfold word, the blasphemy against all gods of men.

50. Curse them! Curse them! Curse them!

51. With my Hawk's head I peck at the eyes of Jesus as he hangs upon the cross.

52. I flap my wings in the face of Mohammed & blind him.

53. With my claws I tear out the flesh of the Indian and the Buddhist, Mongol and Din.

54. Bahlasti! Ompehda! I spit on your crapulous creeds.

55. Let Mary inviolate be torn upon wheels: for her sake let all chaste women be utterly despised among you!

56. Also for beauty's sake and love's!

57. Despise also all cowards; professional soldiers who dare not fight, but play; all fools despise!

58. But the keen and the proud, the royal and the lofty; ye are brothers!

59. As brothers fight ye!

60. There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt.

61. There is an end of the word of the God enthroned in Ra's seat, lightening the girders of the soul.

62. To Me do ye reverence! to me come ye through tribulation of ordeal, which is bliss.

63. The fool readeth this Book of the Law, and its comment; & he understandeth it not.

64. Let him come through the first ordeal, & it will be to him as silver.

65. Through the second, gold.

66. Through the third, stones of precious water.

67. Through the fourth, ultimate sparks of the intimate fire.

68. Yet to all it shall seem beautiful. Its enemies who say not so, are mere liars.

69. There is success.

70. I am the Hawk-Headed Lord of Silence & of Strength; my nemyss shrouds the night-blue sky.

71. Hail! ye twin warriors about the pillars of the world! for your time is nigh at hand.

72. I am the Lord of the Double Wand of Power; the wand of the Force of Coph Nia--but my left hand is empty, for I have crushed an Universe; & nought remains.

73. Paste the sheets from right to left and from top to bottom: then behold!

74. There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son.

75. The ending of the words is the Word Abrahadabra.

The Book of the Law is Written
and Concealed.

Aum. Ha.

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THE COMMENT.

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
The study of this Book is forbidden. It is wise to destroy this copy after the first reading.

Whosoever disregards this does so at his own risk and peril. These are most dire.

Those who discuss the contents of this Book are to be shunned by all, as centres of pestilence.

All questions of the Law are to be decided only by appeal to my writings, each for himself.

There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt.
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[center:24zy9rcg]Love is the law, love under will.
The priest of the princes,
Ankh-f-n-khonsu
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Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: Sarahli on November 11, 2010, 11:46:58 AM
... well hoax related it can mean that we must always have in mind what brought us here = the huge amount of clues and evidences proving this to be a hoax and that Michael is still alive in order to not lose faith repeatedly. We must go back to the source as often as possible (TS posts also) so that the message is engraved in our hearts. That way we will never doubt and always see things in the right perspective. Michael told us already there is nothing to be worried about. It is all for love give me your patience and endurance ... the truth will prevail!
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: _Anna_ on November 11, 2010, 11:47:24 AM
I think that "book of law" there has a metaphorical meaning
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: suspicious mind on November 11, 2010, 11:56:37 AM
would it not need to be related to what has been going on with the new music coming out. perhaps some actual laws involved in this process that are or  are not being followed?

or perhaps is related to the eliza case?
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: trublu on November 11, 2010, 12:30:44 PM
Here it is in the New Living Translation which I find easier to understand:

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Joshua 1:
8 Study this Book of Instruction continually. Meditate on it day and night so you will be sure to obey everything written in it. Only then will you prosper and succeed in all you do.

Quote
Joshua 1:9
9 This is my command—be strong and courageous! Do not be afraid or discouraged. For the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.”
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: Elsa on November 11, 2010, 12:33:08 PM
I think that if TS meant anything other than the most straight forward meaning of the verse then he would have linked directly to those things. As with most of his posts the real intention will be revealed by future events.  You usually have to look back to see the significance of a post.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: AnaMarcia on November 11, 2010, 12:40:18 PM
"Be strong and of good courage, fear not, neither be thou dismayed: for Jehovah thy God is with you wherever you go."

I see this as a message of persistence and faith to us. Maybe Michael and TS are seeing our questions with so many events clashing.
Thanks, TS! I'll keep my faith, although sometimes it is very painful.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: ~Souza~ on November 11, 2010, 12:42:55 PM
Quote from: "Elsa"
Surely if TS meant anything other than the most straight forward meaning of the verse then he would have linked directly to those things.

I agree. I think it's a simple message. Keep reading the evidence and have faith and don't let anything discourage you, whatever happens. Stay strong and determined because the truth will prevail.


Even though it might not have any meaning regarding this redirect, I am reading that Book of the Law I posted just out of curiosity and it's interesting, although it is said to be written in 1904, which makes it impossible that a verse in the Bible would refer to it, and therefore not what TS means. It's a weird book, I have yet to figure out what the true meaning is behind it. Lots of it seems good, but the other half sounds selfish and even evil which gives me the creeps. I'll post my thoughts on it later for those interested.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: suspicious mind on November 11, 2010, 12:48:16 PM
it notice it seems ts uses biblegateway exclusively .wonder why.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: MissG on November 11, 2010, 12:56:59 PM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
it notice it seems ts uses biblegateway exclusively .wonder why.

It is the modern days preaching  :lol: I have never ever read the Bible this much in my entired life  ;)
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: suspicious mind on November 11, 2010, 01:04:05 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
it notice it seems ts uses biblegateway exclusively .wonder why.

It is the modern days preaching  :lol: I have never ever read the Bible this much in my entired life  ;)

perhaps you will be a star in someones crown in heaven  ;)
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: _Anna_ on November 11, 2010, 01:04:55 PM
Quote from: "trublu"
Here it is in the New Living Translation which I find easier to understand:

Quote
Joshua 1:
8 Study this Book of Instruction continually. Meditate on it day and night so you will be sure to obey everything written in it. Only then will you prosper and succeed in all you do.

What I understand from it is that the "book of law" might be TIAI updates. That's how I take it.
I don't agree, tough, with the "be sure to obey everything written in it". I don't agree with some things TS said in his updates and this doesn't have to be taken as to "obey everything". Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. That's what I do.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: MissG on November 11, 2010, 01:06:38 PM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
it notice it seems ts uses biblegateway exclusively .wonder why.

It is the modern days preaching  :lol: I have never ever read the Bible this much in my entired life  ;)

perhaps you will be a star in someones crown in heaven  ;)

I hope to be in heaven whitin many years  :lol: I have a lot of tasks to solve here on earth.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: MissG on November 11, 2010, 01:09:03 PM
Quote from: "_Anna_"
Quote from: "trublu"
Here it is in the New Living Translation which I find easier to understand:

Quote
Joshua 1:
8 Study this Book of Instruction continually. Meditate on it day and night so you will be sure to obey everything written in it. Only then will you prosper and succeed in all you do.

What I understand from it is that the "book of law" might be TIAI updates. That's how I take it.
I don't agree, tough, with the "be sure to obey everything written in it". I don't agree with some things TS said in his updates and this doesn't have to be taken as to "obey everything". Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. That's what I do.

I´ll quote myself here ;)

The latter part of the book was written by at least one other person after the death of Joshua. It is also possible that several sections were edited / compiled following Joshua's death.

Is Joshua representing MJ in here?
If he does? what´s the next step?
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on November 11, 2010, 01:10:40 PM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
would it not need to be related to what has been going on with the new music coming out. perhaps some actual laws involved in this process that are or  are not being followed?

or perhaps is related to the eliza case?



Umm just wondering  Eliza case is due to be heard on 14 December 2010 isnt that the same date that "Michael" Record is due to be released?   :?  :shock:
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: MissG on November 11, 2010, 01:11:57 PM
Quote from: "Ijustcantstoplovingu"
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
would it not need to be related to what has been going on with the new music coming out. perhaps some actual laws involved in this process that are or  are not being followed?

or perhaps is related to the eliza case?



Umm just wondering  Eliza case is due to be heard on 14 December 2010 isnt that the same date that "Michael" Record is due to be released?   :?  :shock:

And Prince also  :lol:
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: ~Souza~ on November 11, 2010, 01:19:33 PM

Oh oh, all the confusion... I don't think TS means you need to 'obey' him. Don't forget TS uses stuff already available on the internet and can't alter anything to make it fit perfectly. He has to use whatever comes close enough to what he wants to tell us.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: _Anna_ on November 11, 2010, 01:29:26 PM
By the way, Eliza just posted on twitter today that the date has been postponed to December, but she didn't say the date.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on November 11, 2010, 01:33:52 PM
Thank you TS. :)
I understand the second one, the first one is a bit confusing.

Thanks trublu for the translation.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: paula-c on November 11, 2010, 01:44:17 PM
Or probably this is to give spirit.
 Josue 1:8
 To ponder and to read day and night, and everything to go out well, it is not the routine ejercisio of "reading" is to ponder and to prepare itself to go out of this condition of discouragement and defeat that some of they of them have.

Josue 1:9
If you say that was because they would come difficult, difficult moments at the mental level.
People in these struggles as a kind of spiritual panic attack, the spiritual panic attack is when I begin to think or to doubt.
Opposite of courage was cowardice, and what God was saying is, I don't want you're coward, a coward leaves the battlefield, a coward is full of fears and anxieties.
God says, you don't have any fear, only that you I am asking is that you striving, because thy God anger with you where you want to go.

He will go with us, and how it will go with us, as we are going to know? "God" talk to us and we know what we do and when.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: lilwendy on November 11, 2010, 02:02:58 PM
~Souza~, isn't Crowley the father of Satanism and/or Occultism?  Just going from memory... I may be off.

Will post my thoughts on this redirect in a bit... nice to have you back TS (although I know you never left)  :D
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: ~Souza~ on November 11, 2010, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: "lilwendy"
~Souza~, isn't Crowley the father of Satanism and/or Occultism?  Just going from memory... I may be off.

Will post my thoughts on this redirect in a bit... nice to have you back TS (although I know you never left)  :D

Yeah, I am reading about this all now. It's a little confusing, I had never heard of the book or Crowley. I see him linked to occult, but when I search the meaning of occult I get this:

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Occultism is the study of occult or hidden wisdom. To the occultist it is the study of "truth", a deeper truth that exists beneath the surface: "The truth is always hidden in plain sight". It can involve such subjects as magic (alternatively spelled and defined as magick), alchemy, extra-sensory perception, astrology, spiritualism, lithomancy, and numerology.
besides satanism. (I only read chapter one, but I do have a weird feeling about it. There are some things in it I agree with, yet the tone of it gives me the creeps and is in contradiction with those beliefs.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: TheRunningGirl on November 11, 2010, 03:06:41 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Elsa"
Surely if TS meant anything other than the most straight forward meaning of the verse then he would have linked directly to those things.

I agree. I think it's a simple message. Keep reading the evidence and have faith and don't let anything discourage you, whatever happens. Stay strong and determined because the truth will prevail.


Even though it might not have any meaning regarding this redirect, I am reading that Book of the Law I posted just out of curiosity and it's interesting, although it is said to be written in 1904, which makes it impossible that a verse in the Bible would refer to it, and therefore not what TS means. It's a weird book, I have yet to figure out what the true meaning is behind it. Lots of it seems good, but the other half sounds selfish and even evil which gives me the creeps. I'll post my thoughts on it later for those interested.

I also hope that the message is simple and not associated with Aleister Crowley, I came across his work when looking at a number of symbolism in MJ art work (Tree of life...etc) and 777 numerology and it makes for some rather "dark" readings. I did not like what I read but ...if understanding it, is the way to the Truth then so be it!

I guess that if TS wants us to find out more about Crowley and his "work", he will do it in a more "direct" re-direct.

In the meanwhile, I shall take TS current redirect as a simple message of Faith, Courage and Love.  The "Book of the Law" within the context of the bible refers to the First 5 chapters of the old Testament said to have been written my Moses and which include the 10 commandments. By extrapolationJoshua 1.8, is often seen as a reference to the need for man to obey the 10 commandments to succeed in life and in the eyes of God.

And TS - nice to have you back! Keep us going in the right direction!  ;)

With L.O.V.E
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: MissG on November 11, 2010, 03:14:00 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
The one I can see is the Liber AL vel legis Sub Figura CCXX.
Quote from: "Gema"
This link I found.
http://www.bookofthelaw.com/ (http://www.bookofthelaw.com/)
May be makes no sense since we are talking about a Bible passage.

My opinion is what I posted in the beginning of the thread.

At this point I think that TS was refering to the Book of Joshua.

Quote from: "Gema"
Or is he refering to the book of Joshua?
Quote
Author: The Book of Joshua does not explicitly name its author. More than likely Joshua the son of Nun, the successor of Moses as leader over Israel, penned much of this book. The latter part of the book was written by at least one other person after the death of Joshua. It is also possible that several sections were edited / compiled following Joshua's death.

Date of Writing: The Book of Joshua was likely written between 1400 and 1370 B.C.
http://www.gotquestions.org/Book-of-Joshua.html (http://www.gotquestions.org/Book-of-Joshua.html)
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: ~Souza~ on November 11, 2010, 03:27:35 PM
Quote from: "TheRunningGirl"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Elsa"
Surely if TS meant anything other than the most straight forward meaning of the verse then he would have linked directly to those things.

I agree. I think it's a simple message. Keep reading the evidence and have faith and don't let anything discourage you, whatever happens. Stay strong and determined because the truth will prevail.


Even though it might not have any meaning regarding this redirect, I am reading that Book of the Law I posted just out of curiosity and it's interesting, although it is said to be written in 1904, which makes it impossible that a verse in the Bible would refer to it, and therefore not what TS means. It's a weird book, I have yet to figure out what the true meaning is behind it. Lots of it seems good, but the other half sounds selfish and even evil which gives me the creeps. I'll post my thoughts on it later for those interested.

I also hope that the message is simple and not associated with Aleister Crowley, I came across his work when looking at a number of symbolism in MJ art work (Tree of life...etc) and 777 numerology and it makes for some rather "dark" readings. I did not like what I read but ...if understanding it, is the way to the Truth then so be it!

I guess that if TS wants us to find out more about Crowley and his "work", he will do it in a more "direct" re-direct.

In the meanwhile, I shall take TS current redirect as a simple message of Faith, Courage and Love.  The "Book of the Law" within the context of the bible refers to the First 5 chapters of the old Testament said to have been written my Moses and which include the 10 commandments. By extrapolationJoshua 1.8, is often seen as a reference to the need for man to obey the 10 commandments to succeed in life and in the eyes of God.

And TS - nice to have you back! Keep us going in the right direction!  ;)

With L.O.V.E

I agree, I don't think Crowley was meant by this redirect (although it's an interesting read and knowledge is power as they say, so reading doesn't hurt). I only posted it because it was the only "Book of the Law" I could find on the net, just in case it could be relevant (I hadn't read it yet).

I think the message is just a simple one and not one to look too much into. Just stay strong dispite all the confusion and disappointments and keep spreading the message.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: 2good2btrue on November 11, 2010, 05:05:52 PM
8 Never stop reciting these teachings. You must think about them night and day so that you will faithfully do everything written in them. Only then will you prosper and succeed.

 9“I have commanded you, ‘Be strong and courageous! Don’t tremble or be terrified, because the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.’ ”

Dont believe everything you read.  Keep the faith.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... version=GW (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Joshua%201:8,9&version=GW)
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on November 11, 2010, 06:58:03 PM
The Book of Joshua
The Book of Joshua is the sixth book of the Jewish scriptures and Christian Bible. It tells the story of how Joshua led the Israelites in their campaign to take the land of Canaan or modern day Palestine. The Israelites referred to the land of Canaan as the Promised Land because the Lord had promised that land to Abraham their founding father.

Joshua 1
The Lord promises Joshua He will be be with him; commands Joshua to follow the Book of the Law and to be strong and courageous. Joshua reminds the Reubenites, Gadites, and the half tribe of Manasseh of their responsibility to help the other tribes receive their inheritance.
http://hubpages.com/hub/The-Main-Events-in-the-Book-of-Joshua

The Book of the Law
Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy are sometimes referred to as:

    * the "Five Books of Moses," because the writings themselves identify the author as Moses, or
    * the "Pentateuch," a Greek term meaning "pente (5) teuchos (volumes)," or
    * the "Books of the Law", or
    * the "Torah" (a Hebrew word meaning "instruction")

These books were originally written as a single unbroken scroll. Sometime before the 2nd Century BCE, it was divided into the 5 books that we see today.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_tora.htm

Leviticus is the book of Jewish law. While the Ten Commandments are in the book of Exodus & Deuteronomy. The Ark of the Covenant contains the  the Ten Commandments.
 
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Islam
In Islam Moses (Musa) is venerated as one of the greatest prophets of God. However, Islam also teaches that the texts of the Torah and the Gospels have been corrupted from their divine originals over the years, due to carelessness and self-interest. Despite this purported corruption, messages from the Torah and the Gospels still coincide closely with certain verses in the Qur'an. This is by-and-large the case with the Ten Commandments. Consequently, despite the Ten Commandments not being explicitly mentioned in the Qur'an they are substantially similar to the following verses in the Qur'an (using Jewish numbering of the Commandments):

1. "There is no other god beside Allah." (Qur'an 47:19)

2. "My Lord, make this a peaceful land, and protect me and my children from worshiping idols." (Qur'an 14:35)

3. "And make not Allah's (name) an excuse in your oaths against doing good, or acting rightly, or making peace between persons; for Allah is One Who heareth and knoweth all things." (Qur'an 2:224) This quranic verse is not entirely analogous to the Old Testament's "You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God..." Verse 2:224 is explained by the Prophet Muhammad as: "If anyone takes a solemn oath [that he would do or refrain from doing such-and such a thing], and thereupon realizes that something else would be a more righteous course, then let him do that which is more righteous, and let him break his oath and then atone for it" (Bukhari and Muslim; and other variants of the same Tradition in other compilations).

4. "O you who believe, when the Congregational Prayer (Salat Al-Jumu`ah) is announced on Friday, you shall hasten to the commemoration of GOD, and drop all business." (Qur'an 62:9) According to the teachings of Islam, the Sabbath was abrogated by the revelation for Muhammed. Furthermore, the Sabbath was only decreed for the Jews. (Qur'an 16:124) God, however, ordered Muslims to make every effort to drop all business to attend the congregational (Friday) prayer. Believers are permitted to go about their affairs during the rest of the day.
   
5. "....and your parents shall be honoured. As long as one or both of them live, you shall never (even) say to them, "Uff" (the slightest gesture of annoyance), nor shall you shout at them; you shall treat them amicably." (Qur'an 17:23)
   
6. "....anyone who murders any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he murdered all the people." (Qur'an 5:32)
 
7. "You shall not commit adultery; it is a gross sin, and an evil behaviour." (Qur'an 17:32)
   
8. "They shall not steal." (Al-Mumtahanah 60: 12) and "The thief, male or female, you shall cut off their hands as a punishment for their crime, and to serve as an example from God. God is Almighty, Most Wise." (Qur'an 5:38)

9. "Do not withhold any testimony by concealing what you had witnessed. Anyone who withholds a testimony is sinful at heart." (Qur'an 2:283)
 
10. "And do not covet what we bestowed upon any other people. Such are temporary ornaments of this life, whereby we put them to the test. What your Lord provides for you is far better, and everlasting." (Qur'an 20:131)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on November 11, 2010, 07:01:13 PM
The Book of the law is the Bible. It helps when you read the commentary. ;)

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=AMP (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Joshua%201:8&version=AMP)
Joshua 1:8
8 This Book of the Law shall not depart out of your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, that you may observe and do according to all that is written in it. For then you shall make your way prosperous, and then you shall deal wisely and have good success.

http://www.biblegateway.com/resources/c ... eq=i.6.1.2 (http://www.biblegateway.com/resources/commentaries/?action=getCommentaryText&cid=23&source=2&seq=i.6.1.2)
God promises to assist Joshua.

Joshua is to make the law of God his rule. He is charged to meditate therein day and night, that he might understand it. Whatever affairs of this world we have to mind, we must not neglect the one thing needful. All his orders to the people, and his judgments, must be according to the law of God. Joshua must himself be under command; no man's dignity or dominion sets him above the law of God. He is to encourage himself with the promise and presence of God.

Let not the sense of thine own infirmities dishearten thee; God is all-sufficient. I have commanded, called, and commissioned thee to do it, and will be sure to bear thee out in it. When we are in the way of duty, we have reason to be strong and very bold. Our Lord Jesus, as Joshua here, was borne up under his sufferings by a regard to the will of God, and the commandment from his Father

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=AMP (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Joshua%201:9&version=AMP)
Joshua 1:9 (Amplified Bible)
9 Have not I commanded you? Be strong, vigorous, and very courageous. Be not afraid, neither be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.

Peace
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on November 11, 2010, 07:24:02 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"

I think TS is be referring to Michael's message (Michael's Book of Law), yet there is a "Book of the Law", here it is, it might be relevant

The Bible passage does not refer to the writings of Aleister Crowley and his "Book of the Law" it refers to Gods "Book of the Law"

Aleister Crowley
Aleister Crowley, born Edward Alexander Crowley, and also known as both Frater Perdurabo and The Great Beast, was an influential English occultist, mystic and ceremonial magician, responsible for founding the religious philosophy of Thelema. Through this belief he came to see himself as the prophet who was entrusted with informing humanity that it was entering the new Aeon of Horus in 1904, a time when old ethical and religious systems would be replaced. Widely seen as one of the most influential occultists of all time, he was a member of the esoteric Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, as well as a co-founder of the A∴A∴ and eventually a leader of Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.). He is known today for his magical writings, especially The Book of the Law, the central sacred text of Thelema, although he also wrote widely on other subjects, including a large amount of fiction and poetry.

Crowley was also a bisexual, recreational drug experimenter and social critic. In many of these roles he "was in revolt against the moral and religious values of his time", espousing a form of libertinism based upon the rule of "Do What Thou Wilt". Because of this, he gained widespread notoriety during his lifetime, and was denounced in the popular press of the day as "the wickedest man in the world." Alongside his esoteric activities, he was an avid chess player, mountaineer, poet and playwright, and it has also been alleged that he was a spy for the British government.

Crowley has remained an influential figure right up till this day, and in 2002, a BBC poll described him as being the seventy-third greatest Briton of all time. References to him can be found in the works of numerous writers, musicians and filmmakers, and he has also been cited as a key influence on many later esoteric groups and individuals, including Kenneth Grant, Gerald Gardner and, to some degree, Austin Osman Spare.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley

Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn
The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn (or, more commonly, the Golden Dawn) was a magical order active in Great Britain during the late 19th and early 20th centuries, which practiced theurgy and spiritual development. It has been one of the largest single influences on 20th-century Western occultism.Concepts of magic and ritual at the center of contemporary traditions, such as Wicca and Thelema, were inspired by the Golden Dawn.

The three founders, William Robert Woodman, William Wynn Westcott, and Samuel Liddell MacGregor Mathers were Freemasons and members of Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia (S.R.I.A.). Westcott appears to have been the initial driving force behind the establishment of the Golden Dawn.

The Golden Dawn system was based on hierarchy and initiation like the Masonic Lodges, however women were admitted on an equal basis with men. The "Golden Dawn" was the first of three Orders, although all three are often collectively referred to as the "Golden Dawn". The First Order taught esoteric philosophy based on the Hermetic Qabalah and personal development through study and awareness of the four Classical Elements as well as the basics of astrology, tarot divination, and geomancy. The Second or "Inner" Order, the Rosae Rubeae et Aureae Crucis (the Ruby Rose and Cross of Gold), taught proper magic, including scrying, astral travel, and alchemy. The Third Order was that of the "Secret Chiefs", who were said to be highly skilled but no longer incarnate; they supposedly directed the activities of the lower two orders by spirit communication with the Chiefs of the Second Order.

A.]
The A.:A.: is a magical order that Aleister Crowley created in 1907 after leaving the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. The acronym,A.:A.:, has been attributed many meanings (see table below). The order is a Thelemic magical fraternity, the goals of which are the pursuit of light and knowledge. Its motto is: "The method of science, the aim of religion."[2] The holy book of the order is Liber AL vel Legis (in English, The Book of the Law). While the A∴A∴ is not part of Ordo Templi Orientis, O.T.O. does consider the A∴A∴ to be a close ally.

Ordo Templi Orientis
Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.) (Order of the Temple of the East, or the Order of Oriental Templars) is an international fraternal and religious organization founded at the beginning of the 20th century. English author and occultist Aleister Crowley has become the most well known member of the order.

Originally it was intended to be modelled after and associated with Freemasonry, but under the leadership of Aleister Crowley, O.T.O. was reorganized around the Law of Thelema as its central religious principle. This Law—expressed as “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law" and "Love is the law, love under will”—was promulgated in 1904 with the dictation of The Book of the Law.

Similar to many secret societies, O.T.O. membership is based on an initiatory system with a series of degree ceremonies that use ritual drama to establish fraternal bonds and impart spiritual and philosophical teachings. O.T.O. also includes the Ecclesia Gnostica Catholica (EGC) or Gnostic Catholic Church, which is the ecclesiastical arm of the Order. Its central rite, which is public, is called Liber XV, or the Gnostic Mass.

Thelema
Thelema is a religious philosophy that was developed by the early 20th century British writer and ceremonial magician Aleister Crowley. He believed himself to be the prophet of a new age, the Æon of Horus, based upon a religious experience that he had in Egypt in 1904. By his account, a possibly non-corporeal being that called itself Aiwass contacted him and dictated a text known as The Book of the Law or Liber AL vel Legis, which outlined the principles of Thelema.

Thelema is essentially a polytheistic religion, with the deities adopted from Ancient Egyptian religion, namely Nuit, Hadit and Ra-Hoor-Khuit. The faith follows the idea that the 20th century marked the beginning of the Aeon of Horus, in which a new ethical code would be followed; "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law". This statement indicated that followers, who are known as Thelemites, should seek out and follow their own True Will rather than their ego's desires. The religion also emphasizes the ritual practice of Magick as well as mysticism.

The word "Thelema" itself is the English transliteration of the Koine Greek noun "will", from the verb to will, wish, purpose. As Crowley developed the religion, founding an organization known as the A.:A.: to propagate it, he wrote widely on the topic, producing what are collectively termed the Holy Books of Thelema. He also included into it ideas from occultism, Yoga and both Eastern and Western mysticism, especially the Qabalah. Thelemites — and other people — have interpreted and applied Crowley’s work in widely different ways, sometimes leading to harsh disagreements.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: ~Souza~ on November 11, 2010, 07:26:01 PM
I know that SD, I posted that somewhere in the thread, since Crowley's Book of the Law is written in 1904 and therefore it is impossible to be referred to in the Bible.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on November 11, 2010, 07:29:08 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
I know that SD, I posted that somewhere in the thread, since Crowley's Book of the Law is written in 1904 and therefore it is impossible to be referred to in the Bible.
Okay sorry, I missed that. I was just a little shocked by the Aleister Crowley reference cause he wasn`t exactly someone I would consider a lovable kind of guy.  :lol:
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: navibl on November 11, 2010, 07:40:06 PM
Any verse in the Bible that speaks of the Law is refering to the 10 Commandments.  Remember Michael's message is simple!  It is no mystery just 10 commandements that God gave to Moses on Mount Siani, when he lead the Children of Israel out of Bondage from the Land of Egypt.  

God told Joshua to remember these laws and keep them, and in doing so their life would be prosperous.  If they were not kept there was punishment.  When God sent his son Jesus, Jesus gave us only two commandments.  Love God with all our heart and Love one another.  Loving God covers the first 4 commandments.  Loving one another cover the remaining 6.

So Michael's message of bringing LOVE back into the world would cover what God spoke to Joshua in the first verse.  A very simple message.  It is the LOVE part that we seem to have trouble with.  Because when you truly LOVE someone the 10 commandments are laws that naturally kept. If we keep these laws our lives would truly be prosperous.

Now the Jews wrote additional books of Laws that were designed to assist man in keeping the 10.  So for instance, thou shalt not steal.  There were laws written about behavior that would bring punishment should someone steal.  So there were written many books about how to keep the Law but were not the books refered to in the bible as the Law.

Let us practice LOVE....

Victoria
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: ~Souza~ on November 11, 2010, 07:58:13 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
I know that SD, I posted that somewhere in the thread, since Crowley's Book of the Law is written in 1904 and therefore it is impossible to be referred to in the Bible.
Okay sorry, I missed that. I was just a little shocked by the Aleister Crowley reference cause he wasn`t exactly someone I would consider a lovable kind of guy.  :lol:

Me neither, as I said in my posts it gives me the creeps. That doesn't mean it isn't interesting to read, because knowledge is power and the more you read, the more you know. There are interesting parts in that book and it is said to be linked to Kaballah, another cult.

I don't think TS means the Bible only, because he must have seen that many on here are not religious. I am not religious either but I do appreciate some stories in the Bible and I think you can find good lessons in there. But there are also parts in the Bible I strongly disagree with and I would never tell someone to live by the Bible, that's everyone's own choice. I think it starts at your kids. Raise them with love and learn them to respect others, animals and the planet, learn them to love themselves and make sure they are well educated and able to think for themselves. If everyone would raise his kids like that, the world will know peace. We don't need ten commendments for that. What we do need is a slap in the face so that everyone will realize that indeed love is the answer.

And for those who are religious, he maybe does mean the Bible, because they get their strength and lessons from there. Probably you can interpretate it as you like, as long as you understand the message and stay true to it whatever happens.

The world needs a wake-up call and therefore all this confusion is needed. Without it, people will not start to question. We need to be prepared for that and not be dismayed, whatever more will come our way.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: suspicious mind on November 11, 2010, 08:21:20 PM
here is the whole chapter . might help

interestingly enough i think it is at the end od the 40 years of wondering in the desert






http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=KJV (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Joshua%201:1-20&version=KJV)
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: RK on November 11, 2010, 08:48:22 PM
For some reason, my brain is linking the book of law with the broadcasting code. Reminds me how Running Girl's letter points out the sections of the code they have breached. Probably way off here again. On a side note....I once read that dogs hated alister crowely, would just go nuts around him. To me that speaks volumes. An evil man.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: mjintrigue2012 on November 11, 2010, 09:00:42 PM
"One of the greatest heroes of the Old Testament needed a serious dose of courage. Joshua was given an impossible task to perform with an improbable people. God knew Joshua's concerns and his fears but God also knew what Joshua was able to accomplish. Before Joshua took command of Israel, God spoke to him.

Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be terrified. Do not be discouraged, for the LORD you God will be with you wherever you go. Joshua 1:9

God had already given Joshua the command to lead Israel into the Promised Land. It was a command that required a great commitment. Joshua needed to lead Israel into battle against some of the strongest armies they would ever face. God gives Joshua five principles for leadership and for victory.

1.) Be Strong
In a world that calls for compromise at every turn, Christians need to stand strong. Strength is not just about the amount of weight you might be able to lift. Strength is also about personal endurance, mental toughness and emotional stability. Joshua would need all these facets of strength to move the people of Israel forward to follow God.

2.) Be Courageous

Courage is the ability to face down your fears and overcome them. Courage gives us the ability to stand firm when everyone around us is giving in. Courage is the raw desire and determination to stay on course with God regardless of the personal cost.

3.) Do Not Be Afraid

Fear can hold us back in life more than any other emotion. Fear can keep us from moving forward with God because when we are focused on fear we cannot walk in faith. Faith and fear do not and cannot mix. We will either give in to our fears or we will overcome them through faith. This was the lesson that Joshua needed to learn that day. When God calls us to act, we cannot be afraid because if He has called us, He will also be with us.

4.) Do not be discouraged

Discouragement is a disease of the heart, the soul, the mind and the spirit. Discouragement will drain a person of every positive thought that they possess and create a negative spirit around them. When discouragement strikes we need a fresh supply of courage to be injected into our lives. Encouragement is simply the process of being filled with courage. Discouragement is the process of being sapped of your courage.

5.) Remember you are never alone

Joshua felt alone, Moses had died and now he was expected to lead Israel. God was giving Joshua a reminder that nothing would ever cause God to leave his side. Joshua was given a formula for spiritual success. If Joshua made the choice to follow God every day, he would not fail in life. The same is true for us today.

God offers us strength, encouragement and the promise of His presence through every circumstance in life. The choice is ours, we can walk with God or we can walk on our own. Which do you choose?"
(http://www.helium.com/items/1257665-bib ... ers-joshua (http://www.helium.com/items/1257665-bible-characters-joshua))
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: lilwendy on November 11, 2010, 09:27:35 PM
Ok here are my thoughts....

Source: http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/response-to-tiai-1111/

So the redirect is Joshua 1:8-9

This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.

Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.

A little background…

Source: http://bible.org/seriespage/commissioning-joshua-joshua-11-18

In a number of ways, the preparation for invasion and the conflict that lay before Joshua and the people begins in this chapter. And it is significant that this preparation in chapter one proceeds out of God’s communication. First, God speaks and commissions Joshua (1:1-5) and then calls him to be strong and courageous (1:6-9). In view of this word from God, Joshua speaks to the people and gives them instructions for preparing to cross the Jordan in three days (1:10-15). This is followed by the response of the people which, of course, had its source in the Word of God (1:16-18). God’s revelation should always be followed by a response that is in keeping with His inspired Word.

Based on what TS has spoken about before in his updates and redirects (http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/time-to-review/ ) this is how I interpret this redirect.  Please keep in mind, I am trying to put myself in TS’s mindset to figure out what he’s trying to convey.

It’s likening Michael to Joshua and us to the people.

Like Joshua, TS has hinted that Michael is being used by God in His battle against evil conspiracies in this world

That MJ is here to help save people from the many problems in this world; love is the reason, love is the answer.

That MJ plans to turn the NWO upside down with the hoax

If this is the case then MJ has been commissioned by God (like Joshua) and now we, MJs Army of LOVE, must prepare for battle.  We need to gather around MJ by joining MJ’s Army of LOVE.

However, we can not be hypocrites spreading the message of LOVE without living it ourselves.  We need to love and support MJ AS WELL AS EACH OTHER!!

We as soldiers in MJs Army of LOVE NEED to embody the following: truth, righteousness, peace, faith, salvation and the Word of God.

I know many of you do not follow the Bible.  That’s fine.  The Bible aside, if I said we should live our lives in truth, do what is right, live and promote peace, move forward in confidence and faith…. Would that be so bad?  ;)

For those who do follow the Bible, believe in God: If we do this all for God’s glory, we will not fail!

Remember, this is a critical point for the hoax and in end times (as TS said).

Remember, MJ will return… there is a deadline of sorts.  I don’t know what this deadline is but it’s there.

We are just waiting for his command… and then we’ll begin. :-)

**************************end of blog post************************

I was also thinking too that these words to be strong and courageous were given just before Joshua was to go into battle.  I believe we are getting ready for the battle of a lifetime!

Lastly, sorry if there are duplicate thoughts already mentioned in this thread... I haven't read through it yet... going to do that now.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: MJonmind on November 11, 2010, 09:33:46 PM
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Navibl
God told Joshua to remember these laws and keep them, and in doing so their life would be prosperous. If they were not kept there was punishment. When God sent his son Jesus, Jesus gave us only two commandments. Love God with all our heart and Love one another. Loving God covers the first 4 commandments. Loving one another cover the remaining 6.
Here's that passage where Jesus says that:
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Matthew 22:35-40 (King James Version)

 35Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,

 36Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

 37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

 38This is the first and great commandment.

 39And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

 40On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

But we have to fulfill the law PERFECTLY, a miss or mistake is as good as a mile. So we are all doomed, except...
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Matthew 5:17-20 (King James Version)

 17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

 19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

 20For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

...fortunately Christ's death paid for all people's sin debt, and all are saved. We still need to live out those 2 laws out of love and thankfulness. But our salvation doesn't hinge on it.

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Romans 5:14-21 (King James Version)

 14Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

 15But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

 16And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.

 17For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)

 18Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

 19For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

 20Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:

 21That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
All will be resurrected and All will become All. The last enemy is death itself.

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1 Corinthians 15:16-28 (King James Version)

 16For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:

 17And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

 18Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.

 19If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

 20But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

 21For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

 22For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

 23But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

 24Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

 25For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

 26The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

 27For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

 28And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: MJonmind on November 11, 2010, 09:53:16 PM
About TIAI's directing to the Joshua verses. My thought, is that "Joshua" is the exact same Hebrew name as "Jesus", and a very interesting fact is that in the King James Version in an earlier version they make 2 mistakes and forget to translate Joshua to Jesus or Jesus to Joshua. Just as Joshua was the leader to take the Israelites into the promised land and destroyed the enemies such as in the battle of Jericho (I wrote about it and the red string bracelet of MJ's here viewtopic.php?f=48&t=15544&p=262273#p262273 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=15544&p=262273#p262273) , so Jesus was the leader to take Christians into the promised land, which could refer to a kingdom of our hearts and/or the future kingdom on earth when he returns and rules the nations with a rod of iron. I personally believe there is a strong connection between MJ and the Messiah, Christ, Jesus.  These verses give the kingdom of MJ principles IMO which are to love God the Creator of the Universe and love all people and things He has created. (I have written a while back about how I believe the New Testament was originally written in the same Hebrew as the Old Testament, and this article is some of the proof for this. Only later was it translated into Greek and those 5000 ancient copies were all that remained after the tumultuous times of the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D.)

http://www.kjv-only.com/acts7_45.html (http://www.kjv-only.com/acts7_45.html)
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Acts 7:45 & Hebrews 4:8
Jesus, Joshua: What's The Difference Anyway?
Look at these two verses in the KJV:

Acts 7:45 (KJV) "Which also our fathers that came after brought in with Jesus into the possession of the Gentiles, whom God drave out before the face of our fathers, unto the days of David;"

Hebrews 4:8 (KJV) "For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day."

Comparing those verses with other versions, we see the following:

Reference KJV NKJV NIV NASB RSV YLT ASV
Acts 7:45 Jesus Joshua Joshua Joshua Joshua Joshua Joshua
Hebrews 8:4 Jesus Joshua Joshua Joshua Joshua Joshua Joshua

Looking at the context of these two verses, it is easily seen that they are referring to when Joshua was leading the Israelites into the promised land. So why does the KJV have "Jesus" in these two verses while the other translations have "Joshua"?

A look at the underlying Greek in these verses shows that "Iesous" is the name under discussion here. Everywhere else in the NT, it is translated correctly as "Jesus", because that's who it is referring to. However, in these two verses (Acts 7:45 and Hebrews 4:8), the name is the same, but referring to Joshua of the Old Testament, not Jesus of the New.

The answer lies in the fact that the name "Joshua" in Hebrew ("Yahowshuwa" , Strong's #3091) is the same name as "Jesus" in Greek ("Iesous" , Strongs #2424).

The problem is that these two names are NOT equivalent in English. In Hebrew, there is one name "Yahowshuwa", and in Greek there is one name "Iesous". In English, we have two names, "Joshua" and "Jesus", so when the translators see "Iesous" in the Greek, they must choose which English name to use, since it can either mean "Jesus" or "Joshua". Context is the key, and the correct choice for Acts 7:45 and Hebrews 4:8 is "Joshua".

It's similar to the following silly example. Suppose we want to translate the sentences "Look at the elephant's long trunk. He uses it to spray water on himself." into another language. We do fine up to the word "trunk", because in English this single word can mean (among many other things) "an elephant's nose" or "a large case". In the language we want to translate this sentence into, suppose there are two entirely different words, one meaning "an elephant's nose", and the other meaning "a large case." Of course, the correct word to use in the translation, because of context, would be the one meaning "an elephant's nose", and it would be a translation error to instead use the word that means "a large case". The exact same thing is happening here when translating the Greek "Iesous" into English. In Acts 7:45 and Hebrews 4:8, the Greek name "Iesous" should be translated as "Joshua", not "Jesus".
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: emeraldcity on November 12, 2010, 01:31:43 AM
Thank you MJonmind .... I found what you have written very interesting and enlightening  :D   I think we must always approach the lessons contained in the Bible knowing that we are reading an INTERPRETATION of what was written in the original languages i.e. Hebrew and Greek.  Many phrases lose their true meaning through translation.  The elephant's trunk is just one example of how things can be misinterpreted when trying to find a literal translation from one language to another.  
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: _Anna_ on November 12, 2010, 02:12:43 AM
My opinion is that TS was referring strictly at the message. Not in a religious way, only coming from a religious source. Those are words that can be said by anyone as an advice.

I have been wondering about all these Bible quotes redirections, being not a religious person myself, I find it hard to be reading them because I feel forced to read/believe something I do not. I am not an atheist, just not religious and for me it doesn't matter what you believe, call it God or a higher force above us, that I am certain that is, but I do not agree with following the Bible literarily. Religion has always been a source of demands and constrictions, some religions are simply absurd in their commands, it somehow enslaves the believer. I am simply not made for that and nothing can make me change my values and views.

So I do NOT agree with following the Bible as it is, but think for yourself and see if you blindly bend your head and do whatever they say to do, or live your life on the rules of your ass. So yeah,the religion (literarily) bothers me in all this because seeing that not many of us are religious and when I keep seeing quotes from the Bible, I feel like forced to go on that path which I will not do even with a gun to my head, if that is what I believe and want.

BUT, probably these are shown because I think that Bible is a book that is most quoted and even more by religious people, so it's a source to find quotes that fit in the life. I use do read all the time, quotes from clever people and I am like a sponge, gathering all the wisdom that they provide, and a lot of times I use quotes from them in real life because some of them shockingly fit 100%.

For instance I absolutely feel completely a quote from Buddah (and I have nothing to do with the cult/religion, I just read because it's pure wisdom), there's such cleverness and wisdom and freedom of thinking ,out of any religious aspect. Recently I read it:

"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”


I hope that TS means the pure message and not the messenger it comes from or what it implies.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on November 12, 2010, 03:01:20 AM
Quote from: "_Anna_"
By the way, Eliza just posted on twitter today that the date has been postponed to December, but she didn't say the date.


I follow Eliza on Facebook and she has posted 14 December at 1.30 pm court case.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on November 12, 2010, 03:04:23 AM
Quote from: "lilwendy"
~Souza~, isn't Crowley the father of Satanism and/or Occultism?  Just going from memory... I may be off.

Will post my thoughts on this redirect in a bit... nice to have you back TS (although I know you never left)  :D


Isnt Alister Cowley featured on the front of the Dangerous Album.

Details of Allister Cowley found here  http://www.illuminati-news.com/aleister_crowley1.htm (http://www.illuminati-news.com/aleister_crowley1.htm)

Blessings to all.

 ;)
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: Tarja on November 12, 2010, 03:20:33 AM
Quote from: "Ijustcantstoplovingu"
Quote from: "_Anna_"
By the way, Eliza just posted on twitter today that the date has been postponed to December, but she didn't say the date.


I follow Eliza on Facebook and she has posted 14 December at 1.30 pm court case.

also 14? Michael's album on december 14, Prince's tour begins on December 14, Eliza's court case december 14? I don't think the court case date could have been chosen but it's a pretty weird coincidence
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on November 12, 2010, 03:29:48 AM
Quote from: "Ijustcantstoplovingu"
Quote from: "lilwendy"
~Souza~, isn't Crowley the father of Satanism and/or Occultism?  Just going from memory... I may be off.

Will post my thoughts on this redirect in a bit... nice to have you back TS (although I know you never left)  :D


Isnt Alister Cowley featured on the front of the Dangerous Album.

Details of Allister Cowley found here  http://www.illuminati-news.com/aleister_crowley1.htm (http://www.illuminati-news.com/aleister_crowley1.htm)

Blessings to all.

 ;)

No, that is P.T. Barnum on the Dangerous album with Tom Thumb on his head.

(http://sleevage.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/michael_jackson_dangerous-f.jpg)

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:Ck1hE3nJUB9DiM:http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7265/barnumytom.jpg&t=1)

(http://valuablebook.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/pt-barnum.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_f3SZ5Tu916o/TCtTtRYkoWI/AAAAAAAARA0/B8U7THevT_A/s400/TThumb.jpg)

P.T. Barnum
Phineas Taylor Barnum (July 5, 1810 – April 7, 1891) was an American showman, businessman, and entertainer, remembered for promoting celebrated hoaxes and for founding the circus that became the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus. Billed as "The Greatest Show on Earth".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._T._Barnum

Circus Elephants Arrive At Staples Center Hours Before Jackson Memorial
July 7, 2009

(http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Circus+Elephants+Arrive+Staples+Center+Hours+WZTGpdgV-a0l.jpg)

Eleven Asian elephants and seven horses walk into the Staples Center, hours before a memorial service for recently deceased singer Michael Jackson is to take place at the same location, during the traditional Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey circus Animal Walk from the circus train on July 7, 2009 in Los Angeles, California. Wherever the Ringling Bros. circus performs, the elephants and other animals must walk from the train to the performance arena. The Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey circus is arriving for their 2009 month-long southern California engagement.
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/4n3aKeaHZMh/Circus+Elephants+Arrive+Staples+Center+Hours

[youtube:1ndsj7wz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOUwJgndupg[/youtube:1ndsj7wz]
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: trustno1 on November 12, 2010, 04:37:41 AM
All this talk of Alesteir Crowley stirred some memories in my head and the first things that came to mind were obviously all the internet rumours of George W. Bush being his grandson, I also know that he was one of the many figures featured on the Beatles Sgt Peeper album, like the Michael album with all it's many different people.  And I know he's been an influence on many and featured as a fictional character in various books, there was one in particular I thought had something to do with the name Illuminati so I did a search and it's a 1981 book called Masks of the Illuminati.  I gather one of the songs on the new album is called Behind The Mask which of course can have many interpretations but still makes you wonder... ;)
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: Believe 777 on November 12, 2010, 09:07:30 PM
Quote from: "lilwendy"
Ok here are my thoughts....

Source: http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/response-to-tiai-1111/

So the redirect is Joshua 1:8-9

This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.

Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.

A little background…

Source: http://bible.org/seriespage/commissioning-joshua-joshua-11-18

In a number of ways, the preparation for invasion and the conflict that lay before Joshua and the people begins in this chapter. And it is significant that this preparation in chapter one proceeds out of God’s communication. First, God speaks and commissions Joshua (1:1-5) and then calls him to be strong and courageous (1:6-9). In view of this word from God, Joshua speaks to the people and gives them instructions for preparing to cross the Jordan in three days (1:10-15). This is followed by the response of the people which, of course, had its source in the Word of God (1:16-18). God’s revelation should always be followed by a response that is in keeping with His inspired Word.

Based on what TS has spoken about before in his updates and redirects (http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/time-to-review/ ) this is how I interpret this redirect.  Please keep in mind, I am trying to put myself in TS’s mindset to figure out what he’s trying to convey.

It’s likening Michael to Joshua and us to the people.

Like Joshua, TS has hinted that Michael is being used by God in His battle against evil conspiracies in this world

That MJ is here to help save people from the many problems in this world; love is the reason, love is the answer.

That MJ plans to turn the NWO upside down with the hoax

If this is the case then MJ has been commissioned by God (like Joshua) and now we, MJs Army of LOVE, must prepare for battle.  We need to gather around MJ by joining MJ’s Army of LOVE.

However, we can not be hypocrites spreading the message of LOVE without living it ourselves.  We need to love and support MJ AS WELL AS EACH OTHER!!

We as soldiers in MJs Army of LOVE NEED to embody the following: truth, righteousness, peace, faith, salvation and the Word of God.

I know many of you do not follow the Bible.  That’s fine.  The Bible aside, if I said we should live our lives in truth, do what is right, live and promote peace, move forward in confidence and faith…. Would that be so bad?  ;)

For those who do follow the Bible, believe in God: If we do this all for God’s glory, we will not fail!

Remember, this is a critical point for the hoax and in end times (as TS said).

Remember, MJ will return… there is a deadline of sorts.  I don’t know what this deadline is but it’s there.

We are just waiting for his command… and then we’ll begin. :-)

**************************end of blog post************************

I was also thinking too that these words to be strong and courageous were given just before Joshua was to go into battle.  I believe we are getting ready for the battle of a lifetime!

Lastly, sorry if there are duplicate thoughts already mentioned in this thread... I haven't read through it yet... going to do that now.


I think this is a very important message on a significant date. I agree with everything you said here lilwendy. It feels like what is going on right now, I think Michael may have kickstarted the battle using his 'Breaking news' song.

 The part that stood out to me was

In a number of ways, the preparation for invasion and the conflict that lay before Joshua and the people begins in this chapter. And it is significant that this preparation in chapter one proceeds out of God’s communication. First, God speaks and commissions Joshua (1:1-5) and then calls him to be strong and courageous (1:6-9). In view of this word from God, Joshua speaks to the people and gives them instructions for preparing to cross the Jordan in three days (1:10-15). This is followed by the response of the people which, of course, had its source in the Word of God (1:16-18). God’s revelation should always be followed by a response that is in keeping with His inspired Word.

I just keep hearing "Carry me, like the river Jordan" I think thats right?  For three days would fit into the snippet release and the full song release.
All of this part has meaning for me.

With the second part:-

Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.

This feels like "On Michaels command!!!"


I think the 'Book of Law' by Crowley is also worth looking into, I haven't looked at too much yet, what I have read is very interesting. It may be a bit creepy as said before, but it is very intriguing.

I feel a direct purpose for this redirect!
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on November 13, 2010, 02:23:33 AM
I just noticed something on that redirect to Biblegateway. It has a link to "View commentary related to this passage". This only shows up when you put the passage look up in the search in this format "Joshua 1:8,9". Now when we have had a redirect to a passage of scripture before or even when I have looked something up the format that has been used is "Joshua 1:8-9". The commentary, which is an explanation of the passages doesn't show up when you use the "usual" format. I think we are being given the message in the redirect but it is also being defined for us too.

Joshua 1:8
8 This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.

Joshua 1:9
9 Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.

King James Version (KJV)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Joshua%201:8,9&version=KJV

The commentary says:

Joshua 1 - IVP New Testament Commentaries

God promises to assist Joshua.
Joshua is to make the law of God his rule. He is charged to meditate therein day and night, that he might understand it. Whatever affairs of this world we have to mind, we must not neglect the one thing needful. All his orders to the people, and his judgments, must be according to the law of God. Joshua must himself be under command; no man's dignity or dominion sets him above the law of God. He is to encourage himself with the promise and presence of God. Let not the sense of thine

own infirmities dishearten thee; God is all-sufficient. I have commanded, called, and commissioned thee to do it, and will be sure to bear thee out in it. When we are in the way of duty, we have reason to be strong and very bold. Our Lord Jesus, as Joshua here, was borne up under his sufferings by a regard to the will of God, and the commandment from his Father. (Jos 1:10-15)
http://www.biblegateway.com/resources/commentaries/?action=getCommentaryText&cid=23&source=2&seq=i.6.1.2

Joshua1:13
13 Remember the word which Moses the servant of the LORD commanded you...
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jos%201:10-15&version=KJV
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: simalves on November 13, 2010, 04:18:29 AM
Can someone tell me why TS uses the King James version. Is he from the Church of England???
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: angel on November 13, 2010, 06:10:27 AM
Thank you, TS, for this word.  With this promise we are invincible. Obedience is the key. It is the only way to be successful in this battle of life.  The Bible is an inexhaustible gold mine of truth, the living Word of God, alive and here forever.  In the end, God's opinion is the only one that matters.  Thank you for your encouragement, for your perfect timing, for keeping us on track, and for preparing us for what lies ahead.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: ~Souza~ on November 13, 2010, 06:14:24 AM
Quote from: "simalves"
Can someone tell me why TS uses the King James version. Is he from the Church of England???

The King James Version is the version the Jehova Witnesses use as far as I know.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: bec on November 13, 2010, 11:18:16 AM
Quote from: "Believe 777"
Quote from: "lilwendy"
Ok here are my thoughts....

Source: http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/response-to-tiai-1111/

So the redirect is Joshua 1:8-9

This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.

Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.

A little background…

Source: http://bible.org/seriespage/commissioning-joshua-joshua-11-18

In a number of ways, the preparation for invasion and the conflict that lay before Joshua and the people begins in this chapter. And it is significant that this preparation in chapter one proceeds out of God’s communication. First, God speaks and commissions Joshua (1:1-5) and then calls him to be strong and courageous (1:6-9). In view of this word from God, Joshua speaks to the people and gives them instructions for preparing to cross the Jordan in three days (1:10-15). This is followed by the response of the people which, of course, had its source in the Word of God (1:16-18). God’s revelation should always be followed by a response that is in keeping with His inspired Word.

Based on what TS has spoken about before in his updates and redirects (http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/time-to-review/ ) this is how I interpret this redirect.  Please keep in mind, I am trying to put myself in TS’s mindset to figure out what he’s trying to convey.

It’s likening Michael to Joshua and us to the people.

Like Joshua, TS has hinted that Michael is being used by God in His battle against evil conspiracies in this world

That MJ is here to help save people from the many problems in this world; love is the reason, love is the answer.

That MJ plans to turn the NWO upside down with the hoax

If this is the case then MJ has been commissioned by God (like Joshua) and now we, MJs Army of LOVE, must prepare for battle.  We need to gather around MJ by joining MJ’s Army of LOVE.

However, we can not be hypocrites spreading the message of LOVE without living it ourselves.  We need to love and support MJ AS WELL AS EACH OTHER!!

We as soldiers in MJs Army of LOVE NEED to embody the following: truth, righteousness, peace, faith, salvation and the Word of God.

I know many of you do not follow the Bible.  That’s fine.  The Bible aside, if I said we should live our lives in truth, do what is right, live and promote peace, move forward in confidence and faith…. Would that be so bad?  ;)

For those who do follow the Bible, believe in God: If we do this all for God’s glory, we will not fail!

Remember, this is a critical point for the hoax and in end times (as TS said).

Remember, MJ will return… there is a deadline of sorts.  I don’t know what this deadline is but it’s there.

We are just waiting for his command… and then we’ll begin. :-)

**************************end of blog post************************

I was also thinking too that these words to be strong and courageous were given just before Joshua was to go into battle.  I believe we are getting ready for the battle of a lifetime!

Lastly, sorry if there are duplicate thoughts already mentioned in this thread... I haven't read through it yet... going to do that now.


I think this is a very important message on a significant date. I agree with everything you said here lilwendy. It feels like what is going on right now, I think Michael may have kickstarted the battle using his 'Breaking news' song.

 The part that stood out to me was

In a number of ways, the preparation for invasion and the conflict that lay before Joshua and the people begins in this chapter. And it is significant that this preparation in chapter one proceeds out of God’s communication. First, God speaks and commissions Joshua (1:1-5) and then calls him to be strong and courageous (1:6-9). In view of this word from God, Joshua speaks to the people and gives them instructions for preparing to cross the Jordan in three days (1:10-15). This is followed by the response of the people which, of course, had its source in the Word of God (1:16-18). God’s revelation should always be followed by a response that is in keeping with His inspired Word.

I just keep hearing "Carry me, like the river Jordan" I think thats right?  For three days would fit into the snippet release and the full song release.
All of this part has meaning for me.

With the second part:-

Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.

This feels like "On Michaels command!!!"


I think the 'Book of Law' by Crowley is also worth looking into, I haven't looked at too much yet, what I have read is very interesting. It may be a bit creepy as said before, but it is very intriguing.

I feel a direct purpose for this redirect!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/627681321.jpg)

"iN tHEORY, 72 hours previous the logic of a mOment etched within a 7 day theory, is possible, but only tIme will tell..."
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: navibl on November 13, 2010, 12:17:37 PM
LILWENDY...Thank you for your posts.  These are my thoughts exactly.  I believe that at some point in time when Michael realized after his contract was manipulated into doing 50 shows. he knew that was THE sign that God was giving him that it was time so get his army in place.  For us to know that it is serious business.  They were going to destory Michael over the message that he had to give and the fact that he refused to do 50 shows.  Michael himself canceled that concert and Kathy Smith wrote of the fact in her blog on 6/26.  She said Michael told her he had canceled a London concert and they were very mad at him and being very mean to him.  

I don't think Kathy knew what a huge clue she was giving, because she made that statement as very matter of factly.  Michael knew the time was at hand to do what was necessary to gather this Army which is what is happening now.  The same thing happened with King Jehosephat In Chronicles.  But God told the King it was Gods battle to fight and not man.  Just as it is today.  We just have to put ourselves in the position to give and show and speak of LOVE.  God will literally fight this for us.

In the Kings battle, that didn't do anything but stand and worship God and his angels brought down confusion to the enemy camp and they turned on themselves and the whole Army killed one another.  Ephesians 6:12 has been a very big statement to me where Michael is concerned now.  Our Government knows what is taking place in the high places (heavens) where the war is raging and soon to be made known to us.  But our Gov is keeping what they know to themselves.  No one would believe it anyway, but they do, and the story is now being twisted that they are using the UFO thing to distract us.  NASA’s website has reports of the solar flares increasing in intensity and frequency.  They said by 2012 we could experience a flare that would wipe out our power grids for many months. Technology would go down the tubes.  Are they ready for this? I don’t believe so!  The bible says work while it is day, for the night comes when no man can work.  Hmmmmm
 But the distracton is saying UFOs hoax stories are a distraction.  It is a very simple mind game, just tell them something is a fact that you don't want them to believe, and they will look for every excuse in the world to disprove it, and there you have it.  Doubt has been cast on the facts and confusion begins and the farther from the truth the story goes.  (Is that what we are seeing in Michaels new album?  Hint hint)

Man in our own human power can’t clean up the mess this earth is in, but God and his angels are very well capable.  2012 will be the beginning of house cleaning, not destroying the earth.  House cleaning will involve some destruction but along with it renewal.  Just as in EarthSong.  The majority will never believe this, but lack of belief does not change truth and fact.  


 I am afraid for the majority, it will be a case of not believing until it is seen, then it is to late, when they are seen time has run out.  I think this is Michael's message of 4 years to get it right.  We have to put on the whole Armor of God like TS spoke of.  Here is the hard part for most.  Truth is not relevant we can't just believe part of the message, in order to get it right, we have to believe the whole message.

It is like putting on armor and only putting on the pieces that you think you like, you can't be effective and fully protected in battle.

It really is al for L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: MJonmind on November 13, 2010, 02:39:12 PM
Very good connections, I like that:
Quote
Believe777
Michael may have kickstarted the battle using his 'Breaking news' song.

The part that stood out to me was

In a number of ways, the preparation for invasion and the conflict that lay before Joshua and the people begins in this chapter. And it is significant that this preparation in chapter one proceeds out of God’s communication. First, God speaks and commissions Joshua (1:1-5) and then calls him to be strong and courageous (1:6-9). In view of this word from God, Joshua speaks to the people and gives them instructions for preparing to cross the Jordan in three days (1:10-15). This is followed by the response of the people which, of course, had its source in the Word of God (1:16-18). God’s revelation should always be followed by a response that is in keeping with His inspired Word.

I just keep hearing "Carry me, like the river Jordan" I think thats right? For three days would fit into the snippet release and the full song release.
All of this part has meaning for me.

With the second part:-

Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.

This feels like "On Michaels command!!!"

Sounds to me like a revolution is coming, and we're part of it. An upheaval. So much more complicated than we can understand, but would like to.
Quote
bec
"iN tHEORY, 72 hours previous the logic of a mOment etched within a 7 day theory, is possible, but only tIme will tell..." from BACK.
Quote
TUPAC LIVES ON 1971 - 1996 T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
TUPAC 7 day theroy
The title of the new album by Makaveli (Tupac) is
The 7 Day Theory.
He was shot on September
 7th; and survived on the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and"died" the 13th.
Hence the title The 7 Day Theory.
Tupac's album All Eyes on Me was released on Feb.13, 1996. Tupac "died" on Sept.13, 1996.
It is quite a coincidence that the two dates are exactly 7 months apart.
Tupac officially died at 4:03 PM. 4+3 = 7 Also he "died" at an age of 25 years. 2+5 = 7.
 It seems as if seven is Tupac's number.
There is nothing in the new album that says TUPAC RIP 1971-1996.
Wouldn't it make sense to include something like that in the first album after his "death"?
The only thing mentioned is "EXIT TUPAC ENTER MAKAVELI".
The executive producer of The 7 Day Theory , as listed in the CD booklet of the album,
is Simon (who is a previously unknown producer in the rap music industry). In the bible,
Simon was an apostle of Jesus. Simon was one of the first witnesses of the Resurrection
listed by Saint Paul (I Cor. 15: 5). The Outlawz have confirmed Simon is a reference to
Suge Knight who was with Tupac the night of the shooting.
In Richie Rich's album Seasoned Veteran, which was released on the same day as
 The 7 Day Theory, on the song "Niggas Done Changed" which is a duet with Tupac,
Tupac says the following lyrics: "I've been shot and murdered, can't tell you how it
happened word for word / but best believe that niggas' gonna get what they deserve."
This phrase implies that Tupac knows he will be dead when Richie Rich's album is released.
In Makaveli's (Tupac's) song "White Man's World" on album The 7 Day Theory, he says
"We ain't never gonna walk off this planet unless ya'll choose to." Did he choose to walk
off the planet by faking his death?
In Tupac's song "Ambitionz az a Ridah" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says
"Blast me but they didn't finish, didn't diminish my powers so now I'm back to be a muthafuckin'
 menace, they cowards thats why they tried to set me up, had bitch ass niggas on my team so indeed
 they wet me up, BUT I'M BACK REINCARNATED." This implies that Tupac is reincarnated as Makaveli.
Tupac "died" in Las Vegas which is a payoff city, meaning all sorts of folks have been known to be on
 the take. That means doctors, press, lawyers, etc.
The white Cadillac containing the assailants was never found... How could this be when Vegas is in the
 middle of a desert?
There's a small Black community on the North side of town.. This strip is only about 8 blocks long..
 If the attackers were Black.. Where did they go? Where did they hide?
The white Cadillac containing the gunmen passes a entourage of Tupac's boys, many of them body guards
... No one gives chase and there are no witnesses...There were no witnesses on the street... How come?
Why not, especially right after a heavyweight fight?
The cover of Tupac's album Makaveli has him looking like Jesus Christ... Could he be planning a
resurrection?
Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert. How come there was no helicopter chase? If some one were
 to rob a casino, the LVPD would've chased you down with some helicopters.. . How come this didn't
happen with the Tupac shooting?
There were no ballistic tests in the murder case... At least we haven't heard about them....
Tupac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once.. He was 'grazed' by a bullet..
Why did Tupac get shot all those times and Suge not get hit?
Suge said he drove Tupac to the hospital and they had a coherent conversation?
 How bad was Tupac hit?
Tupac had completed 2 movies and 3 LP’s that have were to be released.. With so many
people upset about Tupac's death, literally anything connected with him is bound to net
a whole lot of cash...
There is a 72 million dollar life insurance policy on him which has yet to be cashed. No legal
actions could be taken against him as long as it isn’t cashed.
The video 'I Ain't Mad At Ya' foretold his death ....
The memorial services that were open to the public were canceled in both Los Angeles and Atlanta...
In addition to number 19, Tupac said in his song "Life goes on" from his "All Eyez
on Me" CD, that when he died he wanted "every rapper" to rap at his funeral, etc.
Why didn't Death Row fulfill his death wish?
In a 1994 interview with Tupac, he said before he went to prison that if he was ever
sent to prison when he came out he would be worse than before. He was. He also said
 when he came out it would be like he was reborn. Was he speaking literally? He already
died and he was worse when he came out of jail, plus Tupac switched his rapping name
 from 2 Pac to Makaveli, that could be considered a rebirth, all that's left is a physical
rebirth (A sighting) and so far he's already completed more than half of this prophecy.
Suge Knight and Tupac are the only two music industry people on that high a profile with
enough balls to pull off a stunt like faking death...
People close to Death Row and relatives of other famous rappers have speculated to me
and others about the shooting being staged.
Why wouldn’t a company as powerful and rich as Death Row Records not put up a reward to
 find the killers?
Other possible clues are contained in the new album. It is called “The Don Killuminati:
The 7 day theory” which is still a mystery in definition. Inside the cover, it reads
“Exit: 2pac, Enter: Makaveli” as if 2pac has died and Makaveli born.
The cover of Makaveli DK 7 Day Theory holds many hidden icons, and references Marketing Hype
The only witness who was going to step up and I.D. the shooter was Kadafi (Yafeu Fula)
but he was shot a few months after Tupac.
In the first few seconds of the Makaveli song INTRO/BOMB FIRST, you can hear who is
claimed to be Kadafi saying "Suge Shot Me"
Tupac always rapped and did videos on his death, and how his funeral would be.
 Why was he cremated?
In the song, " Life of An Outlaw," an Outlaw says, "All For the street fame on how to
be managed, to plan shit six months in advane to what we plotted, approved to go on
 swole, and now I got it..."
In the song, "Made Niggas," on the, "Gang Related," and, "Supercop," soundtracks,
Tupac says, "Fuck 'em all who can't understand my plot to get richer...Outlaw to the grave,
a muthafuckin' made nigga..."
In E-40's duet with Tupac called,"Million Dollar Spot," Tupac states, "Fans can't understand
 my ghetto slang, so I evade and plot and plan a life of better things..."
In the song, "Ain't Hard 2 Find," Tupac says, "I heard rumors that I died,
murdered in cold blood, tramatized pictures of me in my final states,
you know mama cried, but that was fiction, some coward got the story twisted..."
In Tupac's song, "No More Pain," he says, "A heart of a soldier with the brains to
teach a whole nation..." Is he referring to Jesus or Machiavelli?
The video, "I Ain't Mad At Cha, " was released only days after Tupac's,
"death." It depicts Tupac being gunned down much of the way he was
 really shot.
"I Ain't Mad At Cha," is also track number 13 on, "All Eyez On Me,"
and Tupac died on Friday the 13
In the, "I Ain't Mad At Cha," video, Tupac dies. In his next video,
"Toss It Up," his name is Makaveli.
In the, "Hail Mary," video, there is a gravestone that says, "Makaveli." It is cracked and
there's a hole in front of it; this inplies that Makaveli rose from the dead. Marketing Hype
In the,"Smile," video with Scarface, Tupac is crucified...Later he falls and stands up and
it appears to be a double. Still, is this another image of resurection? Why make people
so suspicious? Marketing Hype
"Ambitionz as a Ridah," Verse 1: " Now these money hungry bitches gettin' suspicious,
started plott'n and planin' on schemes..."
"Ambitionz as a Ridah," Verse 3: "payoff tha block, evade tha cops, 'cause I know they
comin' for me, I been hesitant to reappear been away for years now I'm back...my
adversaries been reduced to tears...
"White Man's World," 3rd verse:"Time so tell me why, you changed choosing new
direction, in a blink of an eye, my time away just made perfection... Did you think
I'd die, not gonna cry ..."
"Life of an Outlaw", Verse 2:"Who should I call when I'm shot and bleedin, indeed
the possibility has part a chase in cream, dope got me hatin' fiends. Scheme wit
my team, just a chosen few."
"Blasphemy", Verse 2:"I'm contemplating plots, wondering which door to go,
brotha getting shot, coming back resurrected, it's just that raw shit, nigga check it..."
Did Bone Thugs N Harmony play a role in helping Tupac fake his death? In the,
"Thug Luv," song, right before Tupac starts rapping, Bizzy can be heard in the
background saying, "He's alive, he's alive, he's alive..." Marketing Hype
Machiavelli's book, "the Art of War," is also the name of Bone's new album.
Marketing Hype
In the movie, "Gridlock'd," when Tupac and Roth are in the diner and they
glance up at the menu, all the L's are upside down 7's.
In the movie, "Gang Related," Tupac and Belushi wait in room 7, and Tupac's
badge number is 115; 1+1+5=7.
The cross on Tupac's back says, "Exodus 16:31." , The verse itself seems to have
 little meaning, but read this verse, found right above it:,
"So the people rested on the seventh day." All of Exodus 16 deals with the 7 Dayz.
The song in which Tupac says he's alive, "Hold Ya Head," on the Makaveli CD, before
Tupac begins rapping, a voice says, "Can you see him?" Another voice replies, "I see him."
 Then Tupac softly says, "I'm alive..."
Why have Suge Knight and the rest of his entourage been so uncooperative with police in
solving the murder?
Since his death, there have been numerous reports of Tupac sightings.
View this sighting report from a newspaper.
   
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: GINAFELICIA on November 14, 2010, 03:23:01 AM
I love when TS quotes the Bible
Title: Re: TIAI 11/11
Post by: navibl on November 15, 2010, 03:39:54 AM
I love coming to this place.  I can have bible study, and Love on Michael all at the same time!!!!  LOL
And I do Love you Michael, I just save the wearing my heart on my sleeve for my YT Channel.

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