Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => The Redirects => TIAI => The Plan (Qanon, TIAI, BACK) => TIAI ~ 2010 => Topic started by: JukeBox on November 01, 2010, 11:53:16 PM
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viewtopic.php?f=72&t=15283&start=25#p255655 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=15283&start=25#p255655)
I think that it is not only the content of the redirect that is important but the timing as well. We know that there will be a BAM, we had already discussed that point in earlier redirects, this is a certainty. I was thinking why TS does redirect to that now. I think that we are maybe now moving on to the next level. The BAM is a process in itself and may take time to develop. Maybe that the redirect was poiting to that, we have reached a certain stage and are heading now to the next one.
I agree with you Sarahli, that it's all about timing. The term "the eleventh hour" springs to mind and perhaps this is why TS redirected to this post on the first day of the eleventh month. It could mean we are moving into the next phase ... a phase that will herald "the beginning of the end". The seeds of truth have been sown far and wide and the result will be one mighty harvest.
Thanks emerald and "Remember, remember the 5th of November" ;)
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Thanks for clearing things up TS. We're ready getting to the next stage. Now I can go to bed peacefully. :D
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Thankyou for that TS. Bringing some much needed clarity to my thinking.
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With TS close beside us we can stay on the right track and not doubt.
The last few days the song 2000 watts has been playing in my mind, especially where MJ says he's now prepared to take us to the next level, and putting on our 3-d glasses. I can hardly wait! Aside from the sexual meanings, I sense it is also for the hoax and the BAM explosion. K Ortega said there would be some sizzles and pops. This whole adventure has been a wonderful overload, our brain fuses almost blowing from thinking so hard, he's real and everything we need. BAM's coming and it will be powerful and multi-dimensional (3D)! A billion watts!
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The last line in the redirect:
Thanks emerald and "Remember, remember the 5th of November" ;)
Could it be? There certainly were some pops and some sizzles when parliament (the 'royal arms'?) went down. Certainly has my vote, if anyone's asking my opinion.
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What also peaked my interest about this redirect is how it says "Remember remember, the 5th of November."
It's gonna be an interesting day for sure (V for Vendetta similarities, etc).
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I'm really speculating here, but.....The Cirque MJ tickets go on sale November 3rd, according to the video being circulated. I went to the site on Cirque and had to LOOK for it because there is nothing on their main screen about MJ. One would think they'd be blasting it all over. In any case, on the screen where they show the video, there were all of 24 comments (most from believers), less than 48 hours prior to when the tickets go on sale. Does this seem odd to anyone? And all those other CDs and DVDs with no actual release date information.
I suggest we all get on line at Cirque on November 3rd and get ourselves some tickets to see the Legend himself, cuz if we wait til the 5th, we may have a little more competition.
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The Hindu festival of Diwali, also known as the "Festival of Lights," is happening on November 5th.
The key word is LIGHTS (reminds me of Light-Man, light of the world, etc).
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The 5th of November is also the date the movie Due Date is going to be released.
A "due date" generally refers to the date when a baby is expected -> birth. The whole awareness process we went through since 06/25/2009 could be considered as a rebirth.
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The 5th of November is also the date the movie Due Date is going to be released.
A "due date" generally refers to the date when a baby is expected -> birth. The whole awareness process we went through since 06/25/2009 could be considered as a rebirth.
That movie sounds funny! I've seen a bunch of previews for it. It has my favorite actor (Robert Downey Jr).
PLOT: High-strung father-to-be Peter Highman is forced to hitch a ride with aspiring actor Ethan Tremblay on a road trip in order to make it to his child's birth on time.
This could signify our journey to the BAM (child's birth = BAM). Or it could even signify MJ's journey to the BAM. Just my opinion :D
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The 5th of November is also the date the movie Due Date is going to be released.
A "due date" generally refers to the date when a baby is expected -> birth. The whole awareness process we went through since 06/25/2009 could be considered as a rebirth.
Needed to add this: Don't forget that November 5 2010 is 777 days from 12/21/2012.
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The number 777
- This number joins together the principles of the man, 700, the cosmic plans, 70, and their image in the Archetype, 7, according to R. Allendy. It is the universal organization, 7 + 7 + 7 = 21, the general evolution.
- Represent the celestial perfection, 7, on the 3 plans of the manifestation: matter, astral (mental or soul) and spirit.
- 777 is the number of completion.
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Also:
TIAI Update #4b: 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof of Hoax, Not Murder
4-21. 777 + 999 = 1776; Greatest Demonstration for Freedom
Now that we have seen both 777 and 999 used repeatedly in relation to TII, the death, the burial, and the resurrection—let’s examine what happens if we add these numbers: 777 + 999 = 1776! For everyone in the USA, and many around the world, this number is instantly recognized as the year of the US Declaration of Independence: July 4, 1776 {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Declaration_of_Independence}. Could this have anything to do with the hoax?
Remember the MLK statement in TDRCAU: “In what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom [independence] in the history of our nation [USA].” {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qE22UOlQts} Does this mean that the hoax is mainly for people in the USA, and not around the world? No; MJ merely used things that already existed about the USA (MLK, and July 4) to represent the whole world. He also used London (O2), and V for Vendetta parallels (in London)—but the hoax is not mainly for England.
Speaking of V for Vendetta parallels, that was one of the recent redirects. Both V and MJ spoke in London, with a red curtain background, wearing black, and for the purpose of freedom from corrupt elites in the government, etc.
And did you notice the fireworks in V for Vendetta? Well, you can also see fireworks in the TII DVD—both on stage, just before Light Man, and also projected in the video shown during Light Man {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GooyC24NOdY; http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/mpd/permalink/m10VO3DPICBZT5}. Furthermore, you can see very obvious red, white, and blue on Light Man immediately before the fireworks. Anyone from the USA will instantly know that these colors are unquestionably linked to the fourth of July, known as Independence Day {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_Day_(United_States)}.
The fifth of November is basically “Independence Day” in V for Vendetta; and exactly 4 months later, on March 5, MJ had his London press conference. Between the death on June 25, and the memorial on July 7, there is one and only one date that stands out on the American calendar: July 4! This day was also about 4 months after March 5, and about 4 months before November 5. MJ probably would’ve done the London press conference on November 5, except that would’ve been too early—and probably a little too obvious.
We do know that the very last words at the O2 press conference were: “... see you in July!” {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1znYaU0oeo} Does this mean that Bamsday is July 4, 2010? Not necessarily; remember, we should not get our hopes up for any specific date. Nevertheless, he was not referring to July 2009—since that was long before 9-9-09, and certainly Bamsday would not be two months before the “resurrection”!
As far as I understand the above, we should consider November 5th as the hoax Independence Day -> See you in July means see you on my own Independence Day on November 5th (metaphorically speaking)?
It is 498 days from 06/25/2009 until 11/05/2010. 4+9+8=21.
It is 489 days from 07/04/2009 until 11/05/2010. 4+8+9=21.
21 is 3 x 7 -> 777. This number joins together the principles of the man, 700, the cosmic plans, 70, and their image in the Archetype, 7, according to R. Allendy. It is the universal organization, 7 + 7 + 7 = 21, the general evolution.
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Remember, remember the Fifth of November,
The Gunpowder Treason and Plot,
I know of no reason
Why the Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot.
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I wonder in what stage do we find ourselves in now. Because recently it's so silent that I really wonder what level did we reach. I don't expect anything on 5th of November as always when I get my hopes high they are put down. I don't think anything will happen on 5th of November, as there are 3 days until then and nothing seems to move with anything.
I am somehow tired to search for clues in every single thing, after 16 months....honestly. It's not about complaining here.All we have are clues and I am not afraid to say this, that there must be more to this than only clues all the time. Probably something will happen on 5th of November, but isn't something always happening? I feel kinda lost recently and I would like to ask TS at what stage we find ourselves now?
How many stages there are left, after 16 months? I don't know where we are now, because in the last 2 months, it's been silent and nothing major happened.I really feel somehow lost.
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I think that after 17 months, TS could tell us at least something more clear than clues, because we lived these 17 months trying to figure out if we are crazy to believe this is a hoax, and it would be the time someone would show us something factual, no matter how tiny that thing is. I feel day by day lost without facts but with clues
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I'm apologise for not being good in the investigating part, it often makes me feel like useless. :oops: I admire you all deeply for you're hard work you have done this past time. I'm learning a lot from you all every day :!:
And i'm glad TS gave us new redirects, it really feels like a new level.
Thanks to All of you !, and TS and especially MICHAEL for being a little part of you're Yourney it's an adventure a Great ADVENTURE.
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I think that after 17 months, TS could tell us at least something more clear than clues, because we lived these 17 months trying to figure out if we are crazy to believe this is a hoax, and it would be the time someone would show us something factual, no matter how tiny that thing is. I feel day by day lost without facts but with clues
I think TS has provided enough evidence already. Maybe you should read all his posts again, thoroughly instead of skimming through them, to realize it.
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/ ... aled01.php (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/tiai_revealed01.php)
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I also appreciate TS' redirects. It feels like somehow in this deadly silence we still have someone to be with us, despite that we are day by day lost in clues, hints, prossibilities, false people who are having a great time deceiving us (well, those who can be deceived, because I've got such a rinocerus skin against "insiders"..).
TS, thank you for keeping up with us. Also I know you must probably understand our concerns, our fears that this could be very well built by us and the hoax couldn't actually exist, but you can't say more. Even if it's been 17 months and we still have nothing but clues. I am wondering when we'll have something factual.. No, I am not denial. I am just realistic and I still have in my mind the possibility this could be just our creation
@Mo, I read line by line TS' posts many times so far. I have them all saved in a word document in my computer, there are 150 pages. I didn't skip any single line he wrote. I know very well how his posts are and what they contain and I know they are highly detailed. But I am talking about that thing, more than words, you know? That thing that couldn't erase the certainity and that couldn't be denied. As long as I have only words, my belief will never be at 100%. No matter how much I love Michael, words are little in front of facts, and I am sure he knows this. It's just that I can't say I am so sure if I have no single fact. I am not dissing TS, I really appreciate him and his work so far. But I am like this and words won't ever make me be at 100% sure this is a hoax if I have no single fact. This is what I am trying to say
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The 5th of November is also the date the movie Due Date is going to be released.
A "due date" generally refers to the date when a baby is expected -> birth. The whole awareness process we went through since 06/25/2009 could be considered as a rebirth.
Needed to add this: Don't forget that November 5 2010 is 777 days from 12/21/2012.
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/images/TIAIU4B/01b.jpg)
The number 777
- This number joins together the principles of the man, 700, the cosmic plans, 70, and their image in the Archetype, 7, according to R. Allendy. It is the universal organization, 7 + 7 + 7 = 21, the general evolution.
- Represent the celestial perfection, 7, on the 3 plans of the manifestation: matter, astral (mental or soul) and spirit.
- 777 is the number of completion.
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Also:
TIAI Update #4b: 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof of Hoax, Not Murder
4-21. 777 + 999 = 1776; Greatest Demonstration for Freedom
Now that we have seen both 777 and 999 used repeatedly in relation to TII, the death, the burial, and the resurrection—let’s examine what happens if we add these numbers: 777 + 999 = 1776! For everyone in the USA, and many around the world, this number is instantly recognized as the year of the US Declaration of Independence: July 4, 1776 {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Declaration_of_Independence}. Could this have anything to do with the hoax?
Remember the MLK statement in TDRCAU: “In what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom [independence] in the history of our nation [USA].” {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qE22UOlQts} Does this mean that the hoax is mainly for people in the USA, and not around the world? No; MJ merely used things that already existed about the USA (MLK, and July 4) to represent the whole world. He also used London (O2), and V for Vendetta parallels (in London)—but the hoax is not mainly for England.
Speaking of V for Vendetta parallels, that was one of the recent redirects. Both V and MJ spoke in London, with a red curtain background, wearing black, and for the purpose of freedom from corrupt elites in the government, etc.
And did you notice the fireworks in V for Vendetta? Well, you can also see fireworks in the TII DVD—both on stage, just before Light Man, and also projected in the video shown during Light Man {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GooyC24NOdY; http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/mpd/permalink/m10VO3DPICBZT5}. Furthermore, you can see very obvious red, white, and blue on Light Man immediately before the fireworks. Anyone from the USA will instantly know that these colors are unquestionably linked to the fourth of July, known as Independence Day {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_Day_(United_States)}.
The fifth of November is basically “Independence Day” in V for Vendetta; and exactly 4 months later, on March 5, MJ had his London press conference. Between the death on June 25, and the memorial on July 7, there is one and only one date that stands out on the American calendar: July 4! This day was also about 4 months after March 5, and about 4 months before November 5. MJ probably would’ve done the London press conference on November 5, except that would’ve been too early—and probably a little too obvious.
We do know that the very last words at the O2 press conference were: “... see you in July!” {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1znYaU0oeo} Does this mean that Bamsday is July 4, 2010? Not necessarily; remember, we should not get our hopes up for any specific date. Nevertheless, he was not referring to July 2009—since that was long before 9-9-09, and certainly Bamsday would not be two months before the “resurrection”!
As far as I understand the above, we should consider November 5th as the hoax Independence Day -> See you in July means see you on my own Independence Day on November 5th (metaphorically speaking)?
It is 498 days from 06/25/2009 until 11/05/2010. 4+9+8=21.
It is 489 days from 07/04/2009 until 11/05/2010. 4+8+9=21.
21 is 3 x 7 -> 777. This number joins together the principles of the man, 700, the cosmic plans, 70, and their image in the Archetype, 7, according to R. Allendy. It is the universal organization, 7 + 7 + 7 = 21, the general evolution.
Thanks, TS! =] Good lookin' out! :D
Ah, so there is a 7 and a 1 energy in this day. (7 if counting just month and day and 1 if the whole date). =D
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I'm apologise for not being good in the investigating part, it often makes me feel like useless. :oops: I admire you all deeply for you're hard work you have done this past time. I'm learning a lot from you all every day :!:
And i'm glad TS gave us new redirects, it really feels like a new level.
Thanks to All of you !, and TS and especially MICHAEL for being a little part of you're Yourney it's an adventure a Great ADVENTURE.
Mo and Sousa sorry that i haven't meantioned you by name, i'm happy to visit you're website. Thank you so much.
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I'm apologise for not being good in the investigating part, it often makes me feel like useless. :oops: I admire you all deeply for you're hard work you have done this past time. I'm learning a lot from you all every day :!:
And i'm glad TS gave us new redirects, it really feels like a new level.
Thanks to All of you !, and TS and especially MICHAEL for being a little part of you're Yourney it's an adventure a Great ADVENTURE.
Mo and Sousa sorry that i haven't meantioned you by name, i'm happy to visit you're website. Thank you so much.
i feel the same way too! thank God that we have some excellent investigators on this site, and TS for a guide.
Needed to add this: Don't forget that November 5 2010 is 777 days from 12/21/2012.
it really seems significant and it's been a long time since i've looked forward to a date and hoping for something exciting to happen!
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Thanks, TS. We know that MJ does have a serious reason to make him fake his death. I still hear him say, 'This is a great adventure. There's nothing to be afraid of'. Now why would he say something like that? To make his new fellow dancers feel comfy before going on a big tour? Surely NOT. A tour is a tour. Factually spoken, nothing really new, you know you are on the road quite some time and then it's over. Yes, it might be an adventure to some degree for the dancers being a part of an MJ Show. But I don't believe MJ meant it that way. So, Michael must have spoken about a NEW level of adventure. An adventure that not only involves the crew but also the world. The world is the stage. The adventure involves him faking his death according to a detailled plan and with some official help. Reason: he's on a mission to tear the dirt out into the open. Expose the evil players/PTB. What was MJs motivation: his only concern was and is true peace on earth - make the world a better place. Raise the vibrations/frequency (2000 watts )
His power, his brilliant mind gives him the possibility to finally say: "Pay back time". Yes, I can fully accept the possibility that there WAS danger to a certain degree in Michaels life, which he used to 'out-think' the bastards trying to ruin his life and also ours as well. That's why hoaxing his death. It let's some of the filthy people show their true intentions; in time they ALL will come forward making the mistake of having tried to mess with MJ and us hence showing their true face because his 'death' makes them feel safe. To me, Mikos' Joker-related tweet "Everything burns" means, that soon the major part of the evil players are cooking, they have shown their true face and intention and soon it will be time to hit back hard. They will ALL be SOOO dumpfounded, they will NOT know anymore where their head is, it spins so fast. Why? Because they did not think, that 'This artist, Michael Jackson, did out-think them" Everything burns - the water is boiling, soon ready to cook the eggs.
There would be nothing more beautyful than when the PTB would crumble in one single instance and gone is the dark age.
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V for Vendetta
V for Vendetta is a ten-issue comic-book series written by Alan Moore and illustrated mostly by David Lloyd, set in a dystopian future United Kingdom imagined from the 1980s about the 1990s. A mysterious revolutionary who calls himself "V" works to destroy the totalitarian government, profoundly affecting the people he encounters. Warner Bros. released a film adaptation in 2006.
Totalitarianism
Totalitarianism (or totalitarian rule) is a political system where the state, usually under the control of a single political person, faction, or class, recognizes no limits to its authority and strives to regulate every aspect of public and private life wherever feasible. Totalitarianism is generally characterized by the coincidence of authoritarianism (where ordinary citizens have less significant share in state decision-making) and ideology (a pervasive scheme of values promulgated by institutional means to direct most if not all aspects of public and private life).
Totalitarian regimes or movements maintain political power through an all-encompassing propaganda disseminated through the state-controlled mass media, a single party that is often marked by personality cultism, control over the economy, regulation and restriction of speech, mass surveillance, and widespread use of state terrorism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism
The series depicts a near-future Britain after a nuclear war, which has left much of the world destroyed, though most of the damage to Britain is indirect, such as via floods, and crop failures. In this future, a fascist party called "Norsefire" has exterminated its opponents in concentration camps and now rules the country as a police state. "V", an anarchist revolutionary dressed in a Guy Fawkes mask, begins an elaborate, violent, and intentionally theatrical campaign to murder his former captors, bring down the government, and convince the people to rule themselves.
V reads Evey to sleep with The Magic Faraway Tree. This series provides the source of "The Land of Do-As-You-Please" and "The Land of Take-What-You-Want" alluded to throughout the series. Another cultural reference rings out—mainly in the theatrical version:
"Remember remember the fifth of November, the gunpowder treason and plot.
I know of no reason why the gunpowder treason should ever be forgot."
These lines allude directly to the story of Guy Fawkes and his participation in the Gunpowder Plot of 1605.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_for_vendetta
Guy Fawkes
Guy Fawkes (13 April 1570 – 31 January 1606), also known as Guido Fawkes, the name he adopted while fighting for the Spanish in the Low Countries, belonged to a group of provincial English Catholics who planned the failed Gunpowder Plot of 1605.
Fawkes was born and educated in York. His father died when Fawkes was eight years old, after which his mother married a recusant Catholic. Fawkes later converted to Catholicism and left for the continent, where he fought in the Eighty Years' War on the side of Catholic Spain against Protestant Dutch reformators. He travelled to Spain to seek support for a Catholic rebellion in England but was unsuccessful. He later met Thomas Wintour, with whom he returned to England.
Wintour introduced Fawkes to Robert Catesby, who planned to assassinate King James I and restore a Catholic monarch to the throne. The plotters secured the lease to an undercroft beneath the House of Lords, and Fawkes was placed in charge of the gunpowder they stockpiled there. Prompted by the receipt of an anonymous letter, the authorities searched Westminster Palace during the early hours of 5 November, and found Fawkes guarding the explosives. Over the next few days, he was questioned and tortured, and eventually he broke. Immediately before his execution on 31 January, Fawkes jumped from the scaffold where he was to be hanged and broke his neck, thus avoiding the agony of the drawing and quartering that followed.
Fawkes became synonymous with the Gunpowder Plot, which has been commemorated in England since 5 November 1605. His effigy is burned on a bonfire, often accompanied by a firework display.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes
The Gunpowder Plot
The Gunpowder Plot of 1605, in earlier centuries often called the Gunpowder Treason Plot, was a failed assassination attempt against King James I of England and VI of Scotland by a group of provincial English Catholics led by Sir Robert Catesby.
The plan was to blow up the House of Lords during the State Opening of Parliament on 5 November 1605, as the prelude to a popular revolt in the Midlands during which James's nine-year-old daughter, Princess Elizabeth, was to be installed as the Catholic head of state. Catesby may have embarked on the scheme after hopes of securing greater religious tolerance under King James had faded, leaving many English Catholics disappointed. His fellow plotters were John Wright, Thomas Wintour, Thomas Percy, Guy Fawkes, Robert Keyes, Thomas Bates, Robert Wintour, Christopher Wright, John Grant, Sir Ambrose Rookwood, Sir Everard Digby and Francis Tresham. Fawkes, who had 10 years of military experience fighting in the Spanish Netherlands in suppression of the Dutch Revolt, was given charge of the explosives.
The plot was revealed to the authorities in an anonymous letter sent to William Parker, 4th Baron Monteagle, on 26 October 1605. During a search of the House of Lords, early in the morning of 5 November 1605, Fawkes was discovered guarding 36 barrels of gunpowder – enough to reduce the House of Lords to rubble – and arrested. Most of the conspirators fled from London as they learned of the plot's discovery, trying to enlist support along the way. Several made a stand against the pursuing Sheriff of Worcester and his men at Holbeche House; in the ensuing battle Catesby was one of those shot and killed. At their trial on 27 January 1606, eight of the survivors, including Fawkes, were convicted and sentenced to be hanged, drawn and quartered.
Details of the assassination attempt were allegedly known by the principal Jesuit of England, Father Henry Garnet. Although Garnet was convicted and sentenced to death, doubt has since been cast on how much he really knew of the plot. As its existence was revealed to him through confession, Garnet was prevented from informing the authorities by the absolute confidentiality of the confessional. Although anti-Catholic legislation was introduced soon after the plot's discovery, many important and loyal Catholics retained high office during King James I's reign. The thwarting of the Gunpowder Plot was commemorated for many years afterwards by special sermons and other public events such as the ringing of church bells, which have evolved into the Bonfire Night of today.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_Plot
Guy Fawkes Night/ Bonfire Night
Guy Fawkes Night, also known as Bonfire Night (more casually in recent times as Fireworks Night), is an annual celebration held on the evening of 5 November to mark the failure of the Gunpowder Plot of 5 November 1605, in which a number of Catholic conspirators, including Guy Fawkes, attempted to destroy the Houses of Parliament in London. The occasion is primarily celebrated in Great Britain where, by an Act of Parliament called The Thanksgiving Act, it was compulsory until 1859, to celebrate the deliverance of the King of England, Scotland, and Ireland. It is also celebrated in some former British colonies including New Zealand, Newfoundland, South Africa, parts of the Caribbean and the British Overseas Territory of Bermuda. Bonfire Night was celebrated in Australia until the mid-to-late 1970s, when sale and public use of fireworks was made illegal and the celebration was effectively abolished. Festivities are centred on the use of fireworks and the lighting of bonfires.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes_Night
The Gunpowder Plot and origin of Guy Fawkes Night
The Gunpowder Plot of 1605, organised by Robert Catesby, Thomas Wintour, Robert Wintour, Guy Fawkes, John Wright, Christopher Wright, Robert Keyes, Thomas Percy, John Grant, Ambrose Rookwood, Sir Everard Digby, Francis Tresham, and Thomas Bates was plot to assassinate James I of England and restore Catholicism to England.
The 13 conspirators planned to place a hoard of gunpowder in an undercroft directly underneath the House of Lords. The plotters believed it to be the perfect place to hide explosives, as the undercroft had gone unused for some time. As October came and the plot was finalised, concerns arose that there may be Catholics present in Parliament when the device was to explode. On Saturday 26 October William Parker, 4th Baron Monteagle, Francis Tresham's brother-in-law, received an anonymous letter warning him not to attend Parliament. On Friday 1 November the King was shown the letter, and it was later decided that a search of the Houses of Parliament would be undertaken on Monday.
According to the King's account, searchers discovered a servant nearby a large pile of firewood in the undercroft on Monday 4 November. He informed the searchers that the firewood belonged to his master, Thomas Percy. The servant's true identity was Guy Fawkes. As the searches had so far failed to locate anything untoward the King demanded that a more thorough search must commence. Shortly after midnight a search party under the command of Thomas Knyvet discovered Fawkes in the undercroft. Fawkes, who identified himself as John Johnson, was placed under arrest, and his possessions searched. He was discovered to be carrying a pocket watch, matches, and torchwood. The search team then unearthed barrels of gunpowder hidden beneath the pile of firewood.
Fawkes, still using the alias John Johnson, claimed when interrogated that he had acted alone. "Johnson" was relocated to the Tower of London on 6 November, where he was to be tortured, after the King gave his consent for the torture to take place. On 7 November Fawkes confessed that he had not acted alone, and the full extent of the plot was unearthed. The plotters were all executed, aside from Catesby and Percy, who had already been killed amidst their refusal to surrender, however the bodies were exhumed and their heads placed on spikes outside the Houses of Lords.
In January 1606 the Thanksgiving Act was passed, and commemorating the foiling of the Gunpowder Plot became an annual event. Coincidentally the celebrations for the pagan festival of Samhain, which included the burning of the "old guy" on a bonfire, were held about this time of the year, and so other traditions, such as ringing of church bells and lighting fireworks were added soon after the act was passed and the "guy" became a personification of Guy Fawkes. The act remained in place until 1859. Despite the repeal of the act taking place over 150 years ago, Guy Fawkes Night still remains a yearly custom throughout Britain.
Remember (John Lennon song)
"Remember" is a 1970 song appearing on John Lennon's first official solo album release, John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band.
The song was influenced by Lennon's primal therapy sessions with Dr. Arthur Janov, and the lyrics reflect things typically remembered in therapy. The memories described are unpleasant ones, of conflict with family, authority and peers. Lennon employs his wit, mentioning how "the hero was never hung, always got away", and parents "wishin' for movie stardom, always playin' a part," instead of being honest and open.
At the end of the song, Lennon sings an excerpt from the poem Remember, Remember, The Fifth of November, then an explosion is heard. This is a reference to Guy Fawkes Night, a holiday in Britain celebrated with fireworks. In an interview with Jann Wenner, Lennon said this was part of a lengthy ad-lib and that he later decided this line ought to be the culmination of the song.
A 2:44 rehearsal take of “Remember" – where the tempo of the song is being worked out – appears on the 1998 box set John Lennon Anthology.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remember_(John_Lennon_Song)
John Lennon - Remember
Remember when you were young?
How the hero was never hung
Always got away
Remember how the man
Used to leave you empty handed?
Always, always let you down
If you ever change your mind
About leaving it all behind
Remember, remember, today
And don't feel sorry
The way it's gone
And don't you worry
'Bout what you've done
Just remember when you were small
How people seemed so tall
Always had their way
Do you remember your Ma and Pa
Just wishing for movie stardom
Always, always playing a part
If you ever feel so sad
And the whole world is driving you mad
Remember, remember, today
And don't feel sorry
'Bout the way it's gone
And don't you worry
'Bout what you've done
No, no, remember, remember
The fifth of November
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I was think of "the 5th of November" yesterday..... today's redirect really made my day :D
Thank you TS! :D
I LOVE YOU ALL & GOD BLESS;)
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Thank you so much, TS, Sarahli, emeraldcity, and also Mo and Souza for your great information here. Love you all. :)
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Thank you so much, TS, Sarahli, emeraldcity, and also Mo and Souza for your great information here. Love you all. :)
Thank you angel you are so sweet. Love you too. :)
Thanks TS for that redirect we surely will receive a kind of message from Michael that day, something more obvious than usual maybe... the kind of thing that make you go WOAH! :lol:
God bless you.
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Thank you TS for this redirect. The hoax is like one giant tapestry seen at the moment from the reverse side with lots of seemingly loose and unrelated threads. But one day it will be turned around and that's when the beauty and the intricacy of it all will be revealed and fully appreciated. Can't wait for that day to dawn :) Love to you all, emerald
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Thank you TS for this redirect. The hoax is like one giant tapestry seen at the moment from the reverse side with lots of seemingly loose and unrelated threads. But one day it will be turned around and that's when the beauty and the intricacy of it all will be revealed and fully appreciated. Can't wait for that day to dawn :) Love to you all, emerald
What a great comparison emeraldcity! I have always marveled at the intricacy of a tapestry from the back. That's where the beauty and genius of the artisan is truly found. It's like the world only sees the front of the tapestry....Michael's life, Michael's "death", Michael's legacy. We hoaxies have discovered there is so much more to his genius, to his life. We turned the tapestry around and found a maze of threads (as like a forum has threads!) :) All the threads woven into one gigantic, beautiful picture of a hoax. Love it! Thank you emeraldcity! Have a beautiful day!
Blessings Always!
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Thankyou TS for giving us a boost.
I know the date 5th November has significant meaning these past 16 months, however it is interesting that TS chose to redirect to the post which included the reference to "remember, remember the 5th of November" when in fact 2 posts up in that thread were the same 2 posts by Sarahli and emeraldcity without the reply referring to the 5th of November.
8-)
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November the fifth will be a year since Evan Chandler's alleged suicide. Maybe a good day for Jordan to speak up and tell the truth.
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In the last post of TS he said that important dates are coming like 10th of October, 31st of October (Halloween), 5th of November, all of them as important dates but to not get any hopes up. That's why I don't expect anything major.......... Of course I hope. But I do not expect anymore.I do need something strong to revive me.
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This is also really, really interesting too. It does seem like November 5th represents the Hoax Independence Day.
As far as I understand the above, we should consider November 5th as the hoax Independence Day -> See you in July means see you on my own Independence Day on November 5th (metaphorically speaking)?
It is 498 days from 06/25/2009 until 11/05/2010. 4+9+8=21.
It is 489 days from 07/04/2009 until 11/05/2010. 4+8+9=21.
21 is 3 x 7 -> 777. This number joins together the principles of the man, 700, the cosmic plans, 70, and their image in the Archetype, 7, according to R. Allendy. It is the universal organization, 7 + 7 + 7 = 21, the general evolution.
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November the fifth will be a year since Evan Chandler's alleged suicide. Maybe a good day for Jordan to speak up and tell the truth.
Now THAT would be sweet!
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November the fifth will be a year since Evan Chandler's alleged suicide. Maybe a good day for Jordan to speak up and tell the truth.
Yeah...it would indeed.
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http://www.thenorthwestern.com/article/ ... 3/11010371 (http://www.thenorthwestern.com/article/20101101/OSH0603/11010371)
any thoughts?
gotta run . will be late for work.
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The last line threw me off; how exactly should we interpret "remember, remember the fifth of november" in the context of "the eleventh hour"? From what I understand, the gunpowder plot was a failed attempt to "defeat" the elite. Does that mean Mike is afraid of getting caught (like Guy Fawkes) at the last possible moment (the eleventh hour)? Especially considering that the Gunpowder Plot may have been successful had there been no delays.
According to this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kas_HOy3fA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kas_HOy3fA)) around the 3:16 mark,
The plotters were working towards a deadline of February 1605—the date set for the state opening of parliament. But then, circumstances changed when parliament was prorogued (postponed) for eight months.
There was always plague in London and when the plague was virulent, it wasn't thought a good plan to have a meeting of parliament. So parliament, who should've met earlier in the year, it was prorouged until October. We should be chanting "remember, remember the third of October". But on the one hand, this gave the plotters much more time to organize things; on the other hand of course , as with all conspiracies, the longer lead time there is, the more the danger of people finding out.
But as Adi said, the mention of the eleventh hour doesn't seem as important as the "remember, remember the fifth of november" bit. In which case, is the redirect just further emphasizing that our government (represented by English parliament) should be afraid of its people (represented by Guy Fawkes)?
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TS said he has worked hard to promote the truth about Michael, he said that the truth will prevail, and is trying to help spread the message of Michael and help that people are prepared for the end of the world or end of an era in this paint are people who have not paid much attention, are more attentive to BAM as such and not to the message. Michael has his own calendar, but he knows when is going to happen all the BAM and will depend on how things are happening for this to happen .. Sarahli true go to the next level, TS said that all we have seen so far is just an introductory course, so we must not lose faith no matter what. ;)
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Thank you so much, TS, Sarahli, emeraldcity, and also Mo and Souza for your great information here. Love you all. :)
Thank you angel you are so sweet. Love you too. :)
Thanks TS for that redirect we surely will receive a kind of message from Michael that day, something more obvious than usual maybe... the kind of thing that make you go WOAH! :lol:
God bless you.
Well! Let's keep WATCHIN' for a significant clue on November the 5th as it seems TS wants to draw our attention once more to this important Hoax date:
1. V for Vendetta ---> Hoax independence day?
2. Evan Chandler committed suicide
Then was this yet another grand coincidence? No. Actually, whether you believe it or not, it was the hand of God! This was part of God’s plan to help vindicate MJ’s character; this was part of God’s plan to use Michael in his battle against the evil conspiracies in this world, etc. But the mainstream media never reported anything about this suicide—why not? When the media jumps on just about anything related to MJ, why the “dead” silence on this? It is simple: because the media does not want to see MJ vindicated.
Some have said that Evan Chandler committed suicide—not because of guilt over the MJ situation, but because of health problems. However, a guilty conscience was very likely a major source of his poor health (see Proverbs 17:22).
Finally, there is a similar situation in the Bible, the case of Judas. He also committed suicide, because of a guilty conscience (see Matthew 27:3-5). And although this was a terrible thing—yet it was prophesied in advance (see Psalm 41:9; Zechariah 11:12,13; John 13:18-21); and when it came true, the fulfillment of the prophecy was also put on record (see Matthew 27:6-10; Luke 22:48; etc). Let both of these cases (Evan Chandler and Judas) be a warning to each one of us: if we have done wrong, we should confess and make things right.
3. Numerology:
It is 498 days from 06/25/2009 until 11/05/2010. 4+9+8=21.
It is 489 days from 07/04/2009 until 11/05/2010. 4+8+9=21.
21 is 3 x 7 -> 777. This number joins together the principles of the man, 700, the cosmic plans, 70, and their image in the Archetype, 7, according to R. Allendy. It is the universal organization, 7 + 7 + 7 = 21, the general evolution.
Are we going to see another Hand of God intervention to help vindicate MJ's character?
With L.O.V.E
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Thank you TS :D
what a nice way to start the day :D
Love You More
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The last line threw me off; how exactly should we interpret "remember, remember the fifth of november" in the context of "the eleventh hour"? From what I understand, the gunpowder plot was a failed attempt to "defeat" the elite. Does that mean Mike is afraid of getting caught (like Guy Fawkes) at the last possible moment (the eleventh hour)? Especially considering that the Gunpowder Plot may have been successful had there been no delays.
But as Adi said, the mention of the eleventh hour doesn't seem as important as the "remember, remember the fifth of november" bit. In which case, is the redirect just further emphasizing that our government (represented by English parliament) should be afraid of its people (represented by Guy Fawkes)?
Let me introduce the webbot. If you haven't heard of them, here's a link that discusses this at some length. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142058 (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142058)
You will note that they have a record of 'predicting' a catastrophic event around September 11th. They have hung their hats on a prediction for early November that will dwarf the 9-11 event.
Will Michael appear at the '11th hour' to circumvent such an event?
Also, Obama and his entire family will begin an unprecedented tour in Mumbai, November 6th. Hillary will be out of the country as well.
If you read David Wilcock and Ben Fulford, they suggest from their 'insider sources' that matters are leading to a climax. Both agree that the dark side has been defeated, but terms of surrender are still being discussed and we should expect uncertainty at the least and some temporary instability on the planet for awhile until things 'settle out.' Wilcock is big on Disclosure coming soom. Perhaps all roads leading to Rome are running parallel at the moment. And maybe, the long climb up this rollercoaster is over, and we should brace ourselves for what's next, repeating 'It's a great adventure. There's nothing to be afraid of.' But I never liked rollercoasters!
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Thanks TS!! :D
& Thank you Mo for the research. Wow.. :shock:
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@gwynned: Wow, that's very interesting. The tipping point "range" in particular (November 8th-11th) caught my eye; Oprah's interview with Katherine, Joe, & Michael's kids airs on the same day (November 8th). Hmmm...
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The last line threw me off; how exactly should we interpret "remember, remember the fifth of november" in the context of "the eleventh hour"? From what I understand, the gunpowder plot was a failed attempt to "defeat" the elite. Does that mean Mike is afraid of getting caught (like Guy Fawkes) at the last possible moment (the eleventh hour)? Especially considering that the Gunpowder Plot may have been successful had there been no delays.
But as Adi said, the mention of the eleventh hour doesn't seem as important as the "remember, remember the fifth of november" bit. In which case, is the redirect just further emphasizing that our government (represented by English parliament) should be afraid of its people (represented by Guy Fawkes)?
Let me introduce the webbot. If you haven't heard of them, here's a link that discusses this at some length. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142058 (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142058)
You will note that they have a record of 'predicting' a catastrophic event around September 11th. They have hung their hats on a prediction for early November that will dwarf the 9-11 event.
Will Michael appear at the '11th hour' to circumvent such an event?
Also, Obama and his entire family will begin an unprecedented tour in Mumbai, November 6th. Hillary will be out of the country as well.
If you read David Wilcock and Ben Fulford, they suggest from their 'insider sources' that matters are leading to a climax. Both agree that the dark side has been defeated, but terms of surrender are still being discussed and we should expect uncertainty at the least and some temporary instability on the planet for awhile until things 'settle out.' Wilcock is big on Disclosure coming soom. Perhaps all roads leading to Rome are running parallel at the moment. And maybe, the long climb up this rollercoaster is over, and we should brace ourselves for what's next, repeating 'It's a great adventure. There's nothing to be afraid of.' But I never liked rollercoasters!
Start looking for the synchs yourself. Once you understand how it works it's amazing to see that everything is connected.
Based on the theory that Haiti's quake (the first huge disaster of 2010 -> 2010: The Year We Make Contact) and the Chile quake (with the 8.8 knocker in Concepción -> conception as in conceiving a child) should be averaged, the Due Date is November 5.
That is why I referred to the release of the movie Due Date on 11/05/2010 on the first page of this thread. We know that movies are released for a reason, and this one has a particular title.
However, fewer than 5% of births occur on the due date; 50% of births are within a week of the due date, and almost 90% within 2 weeks.
The past 9 months we have seen multiple events which have synchs with pregnancy, labor pains and birth. Some major birth/rebirth ritual seems to be coming real soon. Obama and Clinton leaving the US doesn't look promising. Let's buckle up folks.
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I think that after 17 months, TS could tell us at least something more clear than clues, because we lived these 17 months trying to figure out if we are crazy to believe this is a hoax, and it would be the time someone would show us something factual, no matter how tiny that thing is. I feel day by day lost without facts but with clues
I do understand how you feel. But I think we should understand that not everything in this hoax is a clue but there're very important facts! Pls allow me to explain what I'm trying to say. I know that you've already read all of TS' posts, so you know all of these already but once again; 77 days from the “death” on June 25 to 9-9-09; and 7 days from the “burial” to 9-9-09 is a clue BUT it is also a FACT that you can not change or prove that it is wrong. Full moon came on 7-7 in 2009 and full moon came also on September 4 in 2009—just one day after the burial! And if you looked at the moon with the naked eye on September 3 (night of the burial): it looked full. This is a clue but also a FACT. You can not change or prove that it is wrong. Autopsy Report “9-9-09, Date Finalized”, “This Is It” Movie Poster on 9-9-09, Jermaine and La Toya Supported 9-9-09 <<< these are all clues but also FACTS. The 911 Call Was at 12:21 and 2:26 the time of death are all clues but also FACTS. The word fact refers to verified information about past or present circumstances or events which are presented as objective reality. And we have had many FACTS in this hoax. I wrote just a couple of them.
So I think it is important to make the difference btw a clue and a fact and at the same time we should understand that some of the clues are basically facts. No need to lose hope or get lost since the facts and clues didn't go anywhere. Nothing's been changed. It's just we're getting tired because of the passage of time. But remember Michael's words from TII. "It's an adventure. A great adventure. There's nothing to be nervous about." So just try to be patient and try to enjoy the ride. :) Blessings.
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The 5th of November is also the date the movie Due Date is going to be released.
A "due date" generally refers to the date when a baby is expected -> birth. The whole awareness process we went through since 06/25/2009 could be considered as a rebirth.
Needed to add this: Don't forget that November 5 2010 is 777 days from 12/21/2012.
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/images/TIAIU4B/01b.jpg)
The number 777
- This number joins together the principles of the man, 700, the cosmic plans, 70, and their image in the Archetype, 7, according to R. Allendy. It is the universal organization, 7 + 7 + 7 = 21, the general evolution.
- Represent the celestial perfection, 7, on the 3 plans of the manifestation: matter, astral (mental or soul) and spirit.
- 777 is the number of completion.
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Also:
TIAI Update #4b: 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof of Hoax, Not Murder
4-21. 777 + 999 = 1776; Greatest Demonstration for Freedom
Now that we have seen both 777 and 999 used repeatedly in relation to TII, the death, the burial, and the resurrection—let’s examine what happens if we add these numbers: 777 + 999 = 1776! For everyone in the USA, and many around the world, this number is instantly recognized as the year of the US Declaration of Independence: July 4, 1776 {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Declaration_of_Independence}. Could this have anything to do with the hoax?
Remember the MLK statement in TDRCAU: “In what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom [independence] in the history of our nation [USA].” {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qE22UOlQts} Does this mean that the hoax is mainly for people in the USA, and not around the world? No; MJ merely used things that already existed about the USA (MLK, and July 4) to represent the whole world. He also used London (O2), and V for Vendetta parallels (in London)—but the hoax is not mainly for England.
Speaking of V for Vendetta parallels, that was one of the recent redirects. Both V and MJ spoke in London, with a red curtain background, wearing black, and for the purpose of freedom from corrupt elites in the government, etc.
And did you notice the fireworks in V for Vendetta? Well, you can also see fireworks in the TII DVD—both on stage, just before Light Man, and also projected in the video shown during Light Man {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GooyC24NOdY; http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/mpd/permalink/m10VO3DPICBZT5}. Furthermore, you can see very obvious red, white, and blue on Light Man immediately before the fireworks. Anyone from the USA will instantly know that these colors are unquestionably linked to the fourth of July, known as Independence Day {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_Day_(United_States)}.
The fifth of November is basically “Independence Day” in V for Vendetta; and exactly 4 months later, on March 5, MJ had his London press conference. Between the death on June 25, and the memorial on July 7, there is one and only one date that stands out on the American calendar: July 4! This day was also about 4 months after March 5, and about 4 months before November 5. MJ probably would’ve done the London press conference on November 5, except that would’ve been too early—and probably a little too obvious.
We do know that the very last words at the O2 press conference were: “... see you in July!” {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1znYaU0oeo} Does this mean that Bamsday is July 4, 2010? Not necessarily; remember, we should not get our hopes up for any specific date. Nevertheless, he was not referring to July 2009—since that was long before 9-9-09, and certainly Bamsday would not be two months before the “resurrection”!
As far as I understand the above, we should consider November 5th as the hoax Independence Day -> See you in July means see you on my own Independence Day on November 5th (metaphorically speaking)?
It is 498 days from 06/25/2009 until 11/05/2010. 4+9+8=21.
It is 489 days from 07/04/2009 until 11/05/2010. 4+8+9=21.
21 is 3 x 7 -> 777. This number joins together the principles of the man, 700, the cosmic plans, 70, and their image in the Archetype, 7, according to R. Allendy. It is the universal organization, 7 + 7 + 7 = 21, the general evolution.
Mo, thank you so much for the amazing research and WOW! I'm amazed by this!
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The last line threw me off; how exactly should we interpret "remember, remember the fifth of november" in the context of "the eleventh hour"? From what I understand, the gunpowder plot was a failed attempt to "defeat" the elite. Does that mean Mike is afraid of getting caught (like Guy Fawkes) at the last possible moment (the eleventh hour)? Especially considering that the Gunpowder Plot may have been successful had there been no delays.
But as Adi said, the mention of the eleventh hour doesn't seem as important as the "remember, remember the fifth of november" bit. In which case, is the redirect just further emphasizing that our government (represented by English parliament) should be afraid of its people (represented by Guy Fawkes)?
Let me introduce the webbot. If you haven't heard of them, here's a link that discusses this at some length. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142058 (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142058)
You will note that they have a record of 'predicting' a catastrophic event around September 11th. They have hung their hats on a prediction for early November that will dwarf the 9-11 event.
Will Michael appear at the '11th hour' to circumvent such an event?
Also, Obama and his entire family will begin an unprecedented tour in Mumbai, November 6th. Hillary will be out of the country as well.
If you read David Wilcock and Ben Fulford, they suggest from their 'insider sources' that matters are leading to a climax. Both agree that the dark side has been defeated, but terms of surrender are still being discussed and we should expect uncertainty at the least and some temporary instability on the planet for awhile until things 'settle out.' Wilcock is big on Disclosure coming soom. Perhaps all roads leading to Rome are running parallel at the moment. And maybe, the long climb up this rollercoaster is over, and we should brace ourselves for what's next, repeating 'It's a great adventure. There's nothing to be afraid of.' But I never liked rollercoasters!
Start looking for the synchs yourself. Once you understand how it works it's amazing to see that everything is connected.
Based on the theory that Haiti's quake (the first huge disaster of 2010 -> 2010: The Year We Make Contact) and the Chile quake (with the 8.8 knocker in Concepción -> conception as in conceiving a child) should be averaged, the Due Date is November 5.
That is why I referred to the release of the movie Due Date on 11/05/2010 on the first page of this thread. We know that movies are released for a reason, and this one has a particular title.
However, fewer than 5% of births occur on the due date; 50% of births are within a week of the due date, and almost 90% within 2 weeks.
The past 9 months we have seen multiple events which have synchs with pregnancy, labor pains and birth. Some major birth/rebirth ritual seems to be coming real soon. Obama and Clinton leaving the US doesn't look promising. Let's buckle up folks.
The underlined- Mo, that's exactly what's difficult for some people. It's not easy to just draw up a connection with things like earthquake percentages and birth statistics. There are so many details involved with all of the events and it's hard to know where to look.
As for what's coming up, I agree that it sounds likely to be bad- the kind of thing that really makes you frustrated and wonder "how can we really do anything about this?" These are huge mountains we're dealing with and it takes a mountain to move one..
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I gave the story line of V for Vendetta some more thought after I got the idea that the 5th of November is Hoax Independence Day, because I can't get rid of the idea that "we have 4 years to make it right" has to do with the presidential elections in 2012.
V's mission started on November 5. On that day he took over a state-run television station and broadcasted a message urging the people of Britain to rise against the oppressive government in exactly one year's time.
That very same time line would perfectly fit in with the US presidential elections we're heading towards.
When a global awareness process is started on 11/05/2010 and it's given exactly one year's time you'll end up on November 5, 2011. During this year politicians will most likely already announce their candidacy, and November 2011 brings us to the time the campaigns for the 2012 presidential elections will really start. It will all end with the next United States presidential election, to be held on November 6, 2012. So again, exactly one year will elapse.
During these 2 exact years people will be able to make up their mind about what is really going on, and they will be able to make a change by electing the right person for the job.
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I think that after 17 months, TS could tell us at least something more clear than clues, because we lived these 17 months trying to figure out if we are crazy to believe this is a hoax, and it would be the time someone would show us something factual, no matter how tiny that thing is. I feel day by day lost without facts but with clues
I do understand how you feel. But I think we should understand that not everything in this hoax is a clue but there're very important facts! Pls allow me to explain what I'm trying to say. I know that you've already read all of TS' posts, so you know all of these already but once again; 77 days from the “death” on June 25 to 9-9-09; and 7 days from the “burial” to 9-9-09 is a clue BUT it is also a FACT that you can not change or prove that it is wrong. Full moon came on 7-7 in 2009 and full moon came also on September 4 in 2009—just one day after the burial! And if you looked at the moon with the naked eye on September 3 (night of the burial): it looked full. This is a clue but also a FACT. You can not change or prove that it is wrong. Autopsy Report “9-9-09, Date Finalized”, “This Is It” Movie Poster on 9-9-09, Jermaine and La Toya Supported 9-9-09 <<< these are all clues but also FACTS. The 911 Call Was at 12:21 and 2:26 the time of death are all clues but also FACTS. The word fact refers to verified information about past or present circumstances or events which are presented as objective reality. And we have had many FACTS in this hoax. I wrote just a couple of them.
So I think it is important to make the difference btw a clue and a fact and at the same time we should understand that some of the clues are basically facts. No need to lose hope or get lost since the facts and clues didn't go anywhere. Nothing's been changed. It's just we're getting tired because of the passage of time. But remember Michael's words from TII. "It's an adventure. A great adventure. There's nothing to be nervous about." So just try to be patient and try to enjoy the ride. :) Blessings.
yes, yes, to all I underlined. I know and these are actually one of those things TS wrote and what I cosider them to be like too much as for all to be just coincidence. I know some of what TS showed us in the analysis of the numerology can be by coincidence but I am aware that not all of them are likely to be. Like what you pointed out here and they are those things which I consider important too- I am not good at maths under any circumstance, numbers for me require a heavy workout of my brain, as I am totally on the opposite side and I always was, but I do understand very well what he explained especially in what you wrote above and not only these ones. There are some things which I couldn't understand either today, after reading them 10 times and there are also some which I think they are a bit exagerrated, in the sense they could very well be coincidences. But I know some things just can't be coincidences anymore.
Although these are just explanations unfortunatelly given by someone we don't know, who we never seen before. This is what makes me insecure always, even if no one so far explained what TS explained to us
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looks like November is gonna be a busy month :D
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I gave the story line of V for Vendetta some more thought after I got the idea that the 5th of November is Hoax Independence Day, because I can't get rid of the idea that "we have 4 years to make it right" has to do with the presidential elections in 2012.
V's mission started on November 5. On that day he took over a state-run television station and broadcasted a message urging the people of Britain to rise against the oppressive government in exactly one year's time.
That very same time line would perfectly fit in with the US presidential elections we're heading towards.
When a global awareness process is started on 11/05/2010 and it's given exactly one year's time you'll end up on November 5, 2011. During this year politicians will most likely already announce their candidacy, and November 2011 brings us to the time the campaigns for the 2012 presidential elections will really start. It will all end with the next United States presidential election, to be held on November 6, 2012. So again, exactly one year will elapse.
During these 2 exact years people will be able to make up their mind about what is really going on, and they will be able to make a change by electing the right person for the job.
hmmmm. this also makes me think of the election that took place yesterday (nov 2nd). in california, they had the most absentee ballots they've ever had. they said it would take until friday (nov 5) to know the exact percentages/votes cast. also, the republicans took over the house, creating a massive clash between obama's policies and the agendas of republicans. it will be essentially a show down between the house and the president over every bill that the parties can't agree on (which is basically everything). it's just interesting to me that friday november 5th is supposed to be the expected date when they have all the votes from today's election finalized and recorded. perhaps it's the beginning of a bigger, more chaotic political scene here in the US. odd times are ahead.
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I gave the story line of V for Vendetta some more thought after I got the idea that the 5th of November is Hoax Independence Day, because I can't get rid of the idea that "we have 4 years to make it right" has to do with the presidential elections in 2012.
V's mission started on November 5. On that day he took over a state-run television station and broadcasted a message urging the people of Britain to rise against the oppressive government in exactly one year's time.
That very same time line would perfectly fit in with the US presidential elections we're heading towards.
When a global awareness process is started on 11/05/2010 and it's given exactly one year's time you'll end up on November 5, 2011. During this year politicians will most likely already announce their candidacy, and November 2011 brings us to the time the campaigns for the 2012 presidential elections will really start. It will all end with the next United States presidential election, to be held on November 6, 2012. So again, exactly one year will elapse.
During these 2 exact years people will be able to make up their mind about what is really going on, and they will be able to make a change by electing the right person for the job.
(http://www.sarahgeronimo.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/Woohoo.gif)
It could be a huge opportunity to make the change!
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Remember, remember the Fifth of November,
The Gunpowder Treason and Plot,
I know of no reason
Why the Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot.
I love Mr. V :D :D :D
nonsense to ask a masked man who he is :mrgreen:
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I think that after 17 months, TS could tell us at least something more clear than clues, because we lived these 17 months trying to figure out if we are crazy to believe this is a hoax, and it would be the time someone would show us something factual, no matter how tiny that thing is. I feel day by day lost without facts but with clues
I do understand how you feel. But I think we should understand that not everything in this hoax is a clue but there're very important facts! Pls allow me to explain what I'm trying to say. I know that you've already read all of TS' posts, so you know all of these already but once again; 77 days from the “death” on June 25 to 9-9-09; and 7 days from the “burial” to 9-9-09 is a clue BUT it is also a FACT that you can not change or prove that it is wrong. Full moon came on 7-7 in 2009 and full moon came also on September 4 in 2009—just one day after the burial! And if you looked at the moon with the naked eye on September 3 (night of the burial): it looked full. This is a clue but also a FACT. You can not change or prove that it is wrong. Autopsy Report “9-9-09, Date Finalized”, “This Is It” Movie Poster on 9-9-09, Jermaine and La Toya Supported 9-9-09 <<< these are all clues but also FACTS. The 911 Call Was at 12:21 and 2:26 the time of death are all clues but also FACTS. The word fact refers to verified information about past or present circumstances or events which are presented as objective reality. And we have had many FACTS in this hoax. I wrote just a couple of them.
So I think it is important to make the difference btw a clue and a fact and at the same time we should understand that some of the clues are basically facts. No need to lose hope or get lost since the facts and clues didn't go anywhere. Nothing's been changed. It's just we're getting tired because of the passage of time. But remember Michael's words from TII. "It's an adventure. A great adventure. There's nothing to be nervous about." So just try to be patient and try to enjoy the ride. :) Blessings.
yes, yes, to all I underlined. I know and these are actually one of those things TS wrote and what I cosider them to be like too much as for all to be just coincidence. I know some of what TS showed us in the analysis of the numerology can be by coincidence but I am aware that not all of them are likely to be. Like what you pointed out here and they are those things which I consider important too- I am not good at maths under any circumstance, numbers for me require a heavy workout of my brain, as I am totally on the opposite side and I always was, but I do understand very well what he explained especially in what you wrote above and not only these ones. There are some things which I couldn't understand either today, after reading them 10 times and there are also some which I think they are a bit exagerrated, in the sense they could very well be coincidences. But I know some things just can't be coincidences anymore.
Although these are just explanations unfortunatelly given by someone we don't know, who we never seen before. This is what makes me insecure always, even if no one so far explained what TS explained to us
I do understand you once more because I'm terrible in maths too. But you don't need to be a genius or a mathematician to understand the numerology of the hoax. I'm terrible with numbers and everything about maths but TS explained it so well. And the numerology is the most obvious thing that we can get as a FACT in this hoax. And when you think logically about it, who else can arrange the funeral and memorial dates to complete 7-7-7 other than Michael himself? TS didn't create these dates, he is not the one who decided to make the funeral on a full moon. Or he is not the one who made the 911 call at the time of the end of the world (12:21) and etc. TS is the one who explained all of these and what they mean to us. And to be told, they had to be created by a genius before, don't you think? ;) And we should remember that NONE of us, any of the believers could find all of the things TS wrote like you said. We had found just a few of them. I personally can say that I learned a LOT from TS.
About the coincidence issue. I do not believe that there's a coincidence in this hoax. If we believe that there's a coincidence in the hoax, then there is no hoax and everything we have found is just a "coincidence", not a clue or not a fact. It depends on how you get things. And I would love to help you if you need to understand tha parts which you didn't understand or think that they're exagerrated. :)
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Everybody is talking about MAKING A CHANGE, but nobody is talking about how we are going to make it. We should have a plan, we should organize things! What are we going to do? How are we going to make that change? I see everyone writes it everywhere; Let's make a change, help others, save the world etc. But I wish I could see the same effort in DOING things as in writing it. This forum shouldn't stay as a hoax forum only, this forum has to be the center of that change! If we are the Army of LOVE, if we are the ones who will start to make that change, then we should start talking about how we are going to make it! We have to MOVE TOGETHER! For example, we should start doing something all together as members of this forum, as soldiers of Michael Jackson. We tried to tell the media about the hoax and it didn't work out. We tried to tell non-believers about the truth and it didn't work out as well. Is this it? Are we going to sit back and wait till Michael comes back? I know that Michael's return is a must for us to spread the message to everyone but I believe that there're things that we can do before and after his return. I don't want the things that we talk we're going to do, to stay on the forum only but we DO them for real! I know that almost all of us, or maybe all of us try to spread the hidden truth to everyone we know but is it enough? NO! We should do more, we should give more!
How about publishing a Newspaper and deliver it to people at the streets? How about starting to choose an orphanage every month and make donations? How about chosing an area and start planting trees?
I know that most of us are trying to do all of these by ourselves and some of us just write what we want to do. But how about making these all together? How about making this forum the center of the CHANGE? We're THOUSANDS of people here! If we unite and dedicate ourselves to make that change for real, we can save the planet, we can save the humanity! It's all for LOVE, it's all for Michael, it's all for us, it's all for the planet! So what do you soldiers say? Are you with me? Are you with Michael? Are you ready to unite, raise your voice and MAKE THAT CHANGE for real?
P.S: Unfortunately I believe that this post of mine will be ignored by most of you. I hope not because seriously we need to start doing serious things instead of sitting and writing them. We need to start making the change right now! So please let's unite and start doing somethings.
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Wow PureLove what an enthusiasm! You do not lack motivation that's for sure! The thing is that most people here already do these little things to 'make that change' like giving to orphanages for example (and not everybody can), we are here because we want this to happen on a global scale. This is how I see it and for that we need to reach the people en masse. We have already tried by reaching the media and they didn't want to talk about us. It is not an easy task. Now you have raised an interesting point and I was beginning to ask myself how the Army of Love will be used after BAM... because writing things on a forum will not be enough as you said. We will have to act at a certain point.
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Start looking for the synchs yourself. Once you understand how it works it's amazing to see that everything is connected.
Based on the theory that Haiti's quake (the first huge disaster of 2010 -> 2010: The Year We Make Contact) and the Chile quake (with the 8.8 knocker in Concepción -> conception as in conceiving a child) should be averaged, the Due Date is November 5.
That is why I referred to the release of the movie Due Date on 11/05/2010 on the first page of this thread. We know that movies are released for a reason, and this one has a particular title.
However, fewer than 5% of births occur on the due date; 50% of births are within a week of the due date, and almost 90% within 2 weeks.
The past 9 months we have seen multiple events which have synchs with pregnancy, labor pains and birth. Some major birth/rebirth ritual seems to be coming real soon. Obama and Clinton leaving the US doesn't look promising. Let's buckle up folks.
Therefore it is very important that people know what really happens in this world and who or who are behind everything that happens, to the extent that people move out of ignorance, they have to know that all these events are isolated incidents or casual. Human ignorance has always been more than enough for that should be eradicated from the planet, for society to function better, those with political power, economic and military have sought to preserve in the villages to benefit from it. Ignorance is the source of supply for the corrupt and the tyrants, to keep people ignorant, is to keep them oppressed and repressed, it is time to change course, here is the problem, how to get the message out to as many people.
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Start looking for the synchs yourself. Once you understand how it works it's amazing to see that everything is connected.
Based on the theory that Haiti's quake (the first huge disaster of 2010 -> 2010: The Year We Make Contact) and the Chile quake (with the 8.8 knocker in Concepción -> conception as in conceiving a child) should be averaged, the Due Date is November 5.
That is why I referred to the release of the movie Due Date on 11/05/2010 on the first page of this thread. We know that movies are released for a reason, and this one has a particular title.
However, fewer than 5% of births occur on the due date; 50% of births are within a week of the due date, and almost 90% within 2 weeks.
The past 9 months we have seen multiple events which have synchs with pregnancy, labor pains and birth. Some major birth/rebirth ritual seems to be coming real soon. Obama and Clinton leaving the US doesn't look promising. Let's buckle up folks.
Therefore it is very important that people know what really happens in this world and who or who are behind everything that happens, to the extent that people move out of ignorance, they have to know that all these events are isolated incidents or casual. Human ignorance has always been more than enough for that should be eradicated from the planet, for society to function better, those with political power, economic and military have sought to preserve in the villages to benefit from it. Ignorance is the source of supply for the corrupt and the tyrants, to keep people ignorant, is to keep them oppressed and repressed, it is time to change course, here is the problem, how to get the message out to as many people.
Exactly! And Knowledge is Power! ;)
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Looks like the entire world is depending on USs politicians.
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Looks like the entire world is depending on USs politicians.
Interesting thought... that never crossed my mind! Walls must have stopped it!
I guess that nowadays, I am more inclined to go and see "Guignol" give a speech than listening to any of the existing political puppets!
Matter of taste I guess! "Guignol" has got a greater sense of humour!
With L.O.V.E
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Wow PureLove what an enthusiasm! You do not lack motivation that's for sure! The thing is that most people here already do these little things to 'make that change' like giving to orphanages for example (and not everybody can), we are here because we want this to happen on a global scale. This is how I see it and for that we need to reach the people en masse. We have already tried by reaching the media and they didn't want to talk about us. It is not an easy task. Now you have raised an interesting point and I was beginning to ask myself how the Army of Love will be used after BAM... because writing things on a forum will not be enough as you said. We will have to act at a certain point.
That is true..... I know I am doing what I feel. I talked to people I didn't think I would ever open such a subject with, about how media is nothing but a big organization built upon lies which sells lies, that people have probably no idea about what this means in fact, and how everything they see in the media is distorsioned and is not based on facts in 90% of the cases. I talked about Illuminati and how all this can have deeper roots that people are not aware of. I talked to people about the 11th of September attacks and what could be the lies in it all. I talked about this as a global issue that all people should become aware of or the damage will be irreversible. And the most important part is that they listened and were interested in searching more about it.
I also had discussions about innocent people being condemned by the public again because of the media's hands.About justice and how it is NOT done.Because media has the power to make the innocent look guilty and the guilty to look innocent because it controls the minds of the masses. I also help as much as I can, making little donations as much as I can afford whenever I can.......to animals who I love with all my heart, or poor old people on the streets.I am not sitting and waiting, I do want with all my heart to make that change...
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I like the fact that the V used in "V For Vendetta" is also the Roman numeral for 5, adding more credence to November 5th being a significant date, hoax-wise. It also interests me that November was originally the 9th month in the original Roman calendar, but was changed to the 11th month when January and February were later added. From 9th month to 11th month ... 9/11 ;)
Synchronicity abounds 8-)
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Everybody is talking about MAKING A CHANGE, but nobody is talking about how we are going to make it. We should have a plan, we should organize things! What are we going to do? How are we going to make that change? I see everyone writes it everywhere; Let's make a change, help others, save the world etc. But I wish I could see the same effort in DOING things as in writing it. This forum shouldn't stay as a hoax forum only, this forum has to be the center of that change! If we are the Army of LOVE, if we are the ones who will start to make that change, then we should start talking about how we are going to make it! We have to MOVE TOGETHER! For example, we should start doing something all together as members of this forum, as soldiers of Michael Jackson. We tried to tell the media about the hoax and it didn't work out. We tried to tell non-believers about the truth and it didn't work out as well. Is this it? Are we going to sit back and wait till Michael comes back? I know that Michael's return is a must for us to spread the message to everyone but I believe that there're things that we can do before and after his return. I don't want the things that we talk we're going to do, to stay on the forum only but we DO them for real! I know that almost all of us, or maybe all of us try to spread the hidden truth to everyone we know but is it enough? NO! We should do more, we should give more!
How about publishing a Newspaper and deliver it to people at the streets? How about starting to choose an orphanage every month and make donations? How about chosing an area and start planting trees?
I know that most of us are trying to do all of these by ourselves and some of us just write what we want to do. But how about making these all together? How about making this forum the center of the CHANGE? We're THOUSANDS of people here! If we unite and dedicate ourselves to make that change for real, we can save the planet, we can save the humanity! It's all for LOVE, it's all for Michael, it's all for us, it's all for the planet! So what do you soldiers say? Are you with me? Are you with Michael? Are you ready to unite, raise your voice and MAKE THAT CHANGE for real?
P.S: Unfortunately I believe that this post of mine will be ignored by most of you. I hope not because seriously we need to start doing serious things instead of sitting and writing them. We need to start making the change right now! So please let's unite and start doing somethings.
I agree 100%! I think you should re-post this in the general forum and ask for ideas on how to organize for change! I actually had one of your ideas but never followed through on it so I totally understand your frustration and optimism.
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Oh well, forget my suggestion PureLove, TS brought attention to it for you. :lol:
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Everybody is talking about MAKING A CHANGE, but nobody is talking about how we are going to make it. We should have a plan, we should organize things! What are we going to do? How are we going to make that change? I see everyone writes it everywhere; Let's make a change, help others, save the world etc. But I wish I could see the same effort in DOING things as in writing it. This forum shouldn't stay as a hoax forum only, this forum has to be the center of that change! If we are the Army of LOVE, if we are the ones who will start to make that change, then we should start talking about how we are going to make it! We have to MOVE TOGETHER! For example, we should start doing something all together as members of this forum, as soldiers of Michael Jackson. We tried to tell the media about the hoax and it didn't work out. We tried to tell non-believers about the truth and it didn't work out as well. Is this it? Are we going to sit back and wait till Michael comes back? I know that Michael's return is a must for us to spread the message to everyone but I believe that there're things that we can do before and after his return. I don't want the things that we talk we're going to do, to stay on the forum only but we DO them for real! I know that almost all of us, or maybe all of us try to spread the hidden truth to everyone we know but is it enough? NO! We should do more, we should give more!
How about publishing a Newspaper and deliver it to people at the streets? How about starting to choose an orphanage every month and make donations? How about chosing an area and start planting trees?
I know that most of us are trying to do all of these by ourselves and some of us just write what we want to do. But how about making these all together? How about making this forum the center of the CHANGE? We're THOUSANDS of people here! If we unite and dedicate ourselves to make that change for real, we can save the planet, we can save the humanity! It's all for LOVE, it's all for Michael, it's all for us, it's all for the planet! So what do you soldiers say? Are you with me? Are you with Michael? Are you ready to unite, raise your voice and MAKE THAT CHANGE for real?
P.S: Unfortunately I believe that this post of mine will be ignored by most of you. I hope not because seriously we need to start doing serious things instead of sitting and writing them. We need to start making the change right now! So please let's unite and start doing somethings.
I 100% agree with you PureLove.... :? do you have any suggestions? :lol:
Just kidding... I will think about this because I don't just want to spout off some ideas. We gonna do this MJ style baby!
It's a take-over!!!! I'll get back to you.
In the meantime... here's a little something I just wrote (weird how it just came out in like 2 mins!) LOL Enjoy!
http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/2010/11/03/takeover/
Ow!
It’s a takeover
The world’s getting colder
Until the MJ army
Becomes the love donors
With the Joker at the front
Gonna hunt and confront
The world’s evil ways
Its growth we gonna stunt with a grunt
Putting love back in the world
Gonna unfurl and hurl
Bombs of love, peace and joy
To every little girl and boy
So watch out planet blue
Have you been getting the clues
MJ’s back, that’s a fact
Army of LOVE
Ready to attack!
:lol:
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PureLove, Your not being ignored these, you have reason in many things that you said in your post, it is necessary to begin to do the change
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It seems from the TIAI redirects the the ball is in our court to do what Michael for the last two decades has been trying to warn us about...poverty, slavery, our damage to planet Earth, and help to put an end to it. Everybody knows it happens but conveniently wealthier nations ignore it, as at the moment it does not affect them.
I had said in my previous post back in February 2010 that Michael has been trying for years to inspire others to reflect on their actions and do their bit to 'heal the world', but it has fallen on deaf ears. One individual can only do so much, even someone who is famous the world over and has met Government officials...but together a single voice/message echoed by thousands... millions of people around the world can make a difference.
Action does speak louder than words. This Army of Love needs to be seen and heard, but given our work schedules, public interest, trying to inform people of Michael's message, even though he is 'dead' is difficult. Therefore a more subtle approach is required in my opinion. If you are fund raising or doing some voluntary or charity work, wear a colour that reflects MJ, such as red or yellow. Tie-dye or buy t-shirts/flags etc, print L.O.V.E on the front, back, sleeves...wherever. And if anyone asks what it means, well that is your call, but of course, "It is all for love".
Alternatively hang something from your window (inside or out) so it is visible to all. You never know you might have a MJDHI member in the neighbourhood! The continued publicity from MJ's new music and Murray's court case will assist in the momentum to build up to the BAM. However, what I am thinking of just now is what exactly is this BAM? Maybe some TIAI redirects could help us out here.
Peace, love, friendship, respect.x
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I've been donating to ST JUDE'S even before MJ supposedly died and I will continue to do so in his name, sometimes even if I can't send alot even it's 5 dollars I still send it in it makes me feel good just to know I'm helping those children and most importantly I always pray to god every night to help everyone that is suffering.
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[youtube:1j83d43a]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQWFugNFCVw&feature=youtu.be&a[/youtube:1j83d43a]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQWFugNF ... youtu.be&a (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQWFugNFCVw&feature=youtu.be&a)
THE GREATEST SPEECH FOR HUMANITY ~ HUMAN RACE, GET OFF YOUR KNEES
I really encourage everybody to listen to this video! You will have to watch it on You Tube because embedding was disabled due to a content claim by Warner Bros. Entertainment
The elite at the top of the "pyramid" will lose control when the foundation starts to crumble. Everyone under the "elite" is the foundation (all of US). This again is reinforcement of the power of Unity. We CAN change the world...with LOVE and non-violent resistance!
Be strong in your convictions, your strength will help others to see the "Light" and our momentum will build!
Blessed to have been,
Touched By An Angel
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I've been donating to ST JUDE'S even before MJ supposedly died and I will continue to do so in his name, sometimes even if I can't send alot even it's 5 dollars I still send it in it makes me feel good just to know I'm helping those children and most importantly I always pray to god every night to help everyone that is suffering.
That's so beautiful. It is not important how much you donate or what you donate, but it is important that you want to give from yourself to this world. Thank you so much. I appreciate what you're doing. LOVE
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Oh well, forget my suggestion PureLove, TS brought attention to it for you. :lol:
:lol: He's fast, isn't he? :D
PureLove, Your not being ignored these, you have reason in many things that you said in your post, it is necessary to begin to do the change
Thank you Paula and I do agree with you. Let's UNITE because UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL!
I 100% agree with you PureLove.... :? do you have any suggestions? :lol:
Just kidding... I will think about this because I don't just want to spout off some ideas. We gonna do this MJ style baby!
It's a take-over!!!! I'll get back to you.
In the meantime... here's a little something I just wrote (weird how it just came out in like 2 mins!) LOL Enjoy!
http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/2010/11/03/takeover/
Ow!
It’s a takeover
The world’s getting colder
Until the MJ army
Becomes the love donors
With the Joker at the front
Gonna hunt and confront
The world’s evil ways
Its growth we gonna stunt with a grunt
Putting love back in the world
Gonna unfurl and hurl
Bombs of love, peace and joy
To every little girl and boy
So watch out planet blue
Have you been getting the clues
MJ’s back, that’s a fact
Army of LOVE
Ready to attack!
:lol:
Heyyy I loved your poem. :D Everyone has some suggestions and we have a new section for the charities. :D I've already started a topic about starting to make the change by donating to an orphanage. This is the link of that section.: http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=111&t=15371
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Well, in the light of what happened here lately, maybe we should listen to Mr. V and never ask a masked man who he is :D
I just adore this part when he's introducing himself to Evey:
[youtube:3e5rhd9v]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW6HbZXI9Y0&feature=rec-LGOUT-exp_fresh+div-1r-3-HM[/youtube:3e5rhd9v]
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The 5th of November is here and TS is keeping us waiting.......
and to quote Mr. V....
"Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin van-guarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition".
I understand nothing of this.... cryptic like some posts of Back
But I understand this:
"It means that I, like God, do not play with dice and I don't believe in coincidences. " :D
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I know, I woke up this morning early because I couldn't sleep and the first thing I did when I turned on my computer was to check TIAI. Still nothing.... I really expected an important message on 5th of November.
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Its early yet, maybe its a timed message :? I did the same :lol:
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I'm really puzzled that we had no redirect on 5th of November.
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We had a Breaking News! It is equivalent to a redirect no!!? :D .... and the 5th of November is not over yet.
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We had a Breaking News! It is equivalent to a redirect no!!? :D .... and the 5th of November is not over yet.
I agree with you Sarahli! We got the unexpected announcement, album cover and teaser of Breaking News and whether TS redirect or NOT today, I feel that he has already given us one of his most OBVIOUS clue to-date!
TS worked so hard on pointing out the media connection in his redirect on Orson Wells, War of the World, then come "Remember, remember the 5th of November" and now " just by magic" we get BREAKING NEWS!
Come on! (Or should I say Shamone!) TS has given us an other amazing evidence that all is as HE said ! TS knew both the title and the timing for the release!
TS BIG THANK YOU to You!
xx
With L.O.V.E
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We had a Breaking News! It is equivalent to a redirect no!!? :D .... and the 5th of November is not over yet.
I agree with you Sarahli! We got the unexpected announcement, album cover and teaser of Breaking News and whether TS redirect or NOT today, I feel that he has already given us one of his most OBVIOUS clue to-date!
TS worked so hard on pointing out the media connection in his redirect on Orson Wells, War of the World, then come "Remember, remember the 5th of November" and now " just by magic" we get BREAKING NEWS!
Come on! (Or should I say Shamone!) TS has given us an other amazing evidence that all is as HE said ! TS knew both the title and the timing for the release!
TS BIG THANK YOU to You!
xx
With L.O.V.E
Indeed RunningGirl the redirect of "Remember, remember the 5th of November" proves AGAIN that TS is LEGIT!!! Gotta LOVE TS! :lol:
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We had a Breaking News! It is equivalent to a redirect no!!? :D .... and the 5th of November is not over yet.
I agree with you Sarahli! We got the unexpected announcement, album cover and teaser of Breaking News and whether TS redirect or NOT today, I feel that he has already given us one of his most OBVIOUS clue to-date!
TS worked so hard on pointing out the media connection in his redirect on Orson Wells, War of the World, then come "Remember, remember the 5th of November" and now " just by magic" we get BREAKING NEWS!
Come on! (Or should I say Shamone!) TS has given us an other amazing evidence that all is as HE said ! TS knew both the title and the timing for the release!
TS BIG THANK YOU to You!
xx
With L.O.V.E
Indeed RunningGirl the redirect of "Remember, remember the 5th of November" proves AGAIN that TS is LEGIT!!! Gotta LOVE TS! :lol:
I hate looking as a too skeptik, but we all know the connection betwen 5th of November and the hoax, and something always happens. I am not saying that TS is not legit, just that the redirect together with the date 5th of November posted by you, Sarahli, if I recall it well, could very well be a coincidence and blindly guess, considering the date.... I don't know, but I always take all the possibilities.
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We had a Breaking News! It is equivalent to a redirect no!!? :D .... and the 5th of November is not over yet.
I agree with you Sarahli! We got the unexpected announcement, album cover and teaser of Breaking News and whether TS redirect or NOT today, I feel that he has already given us one of his most OBVIOUS clue to-date!
TS worked so hard on pointing out the media connection in his redirect on Orson Wells, War of the World, then come "Remember, remember the 5th of November" and now " just by magic" we get BREAKING NEWS!
Come on! (Or should I say Shamone!) TS has given us an other amazing evidence that all is as HE said ! TS knew both the title and the timing for the release!
TS BIG THANK YOU to You!
xx
With L.O.V.E
Indeed RunningGirl the redirect of "Remember, remember the 5th of November" proves AGAIN that TS is LEGIT!!! Gotta LOVE TS! :lol:
And Sarahli, the Orson Wells redirect was a news broadcast, a "Breaking News"! 2 out of 2 for TS!!! BRAVO!!!
With L.O.V.E
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We did get the message. Michael :mrgreen: Let's wait for more to come. I think it's a blast, that the announcement of the new album was on the 4/5th of November. We got what we wished for - something big happened. Well, at least for me, but I guess, for you, too ;)
Blessings to you all
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The Orson Wells I think is related to the Obama fake alarm or?
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We had a Breaking News! It is equivalent to a redirect no!!? :D .... and the 5th of November is not over yet.
I agree with you Sarahli! We got the unexpected announcement, album cover and teaser of Breaking News and whether TS redirect or NOT today, I feel that he has already given us one of his most OBVIOUS clue to-date!
TS worked so hard on pointing out the media connection in his redirect on Orson Wells, War of the World, then come "Remember, remember the 5th of November" and now " just by magic" we get BREAKING NEWS!
Come on! (Or should I say Shamone!) TS has given us an other amazing evidence that all is as HE said ! TS knew both the title and the timing for the release!
TS BIG THANK YOU to You!
xx
With L.O.V.E
Indeed RunningGirl the redirect of "Remember, remember the 5th of November" proves AGAIN that TS is LEGIT!!! Gotta LOVE TS! :lol:
I hate looking as a too skeptik, but we all know the connection betwen 5th of November and the hoax, and something always happens. I am not saying that TS is not legit, just that the redirect together with the date 5th of November posted by you, Sarahli, if I recall it well, could very well be a coincidence and blindly guess, considering the date.... I don't know, but I always take all the possibilities.
Actually, Anna :) nothing could have happened as well. Actually this also proves that it is well a hoax and that it is well planned. How did you connected the 5th of November with the hoax? Why of all the dates that song has been released that very day? It is no coincidence and TS must have had a prior knowledge of it and of the content of that 'Breaking News' because even that, is hoax related. It could have been a completely different song, a love song for example and people would have said well ok nothing very surprising. But here we have a very significant theme which makes us think of V speech with all the TV sets in the video. So the timing and the content of that song proves that TS is legit and that this is well a hoax (taking into account all the clues and hints we have already of course). Well maybe that I'm wrong too this is just my understanding. Blessings.