Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => Hoax Videos => Topic started by: 2good2btrue on November 01, 2010, 02:20:47 AM
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This probably has been brought up before, but: from the 2.30 mark...
Isn't it kind of weird that Prince Michael forgot to bring tissues or a hanky for his fathers memorial....you can clearly see La Toya getting up and rushing over to him, and giving him the hanky, so he can wipe away his tears... :? :? And then you see Paris also doing it at the same time...hmmmmm....rehearsed or what..Blanket looks around...unsure how to act. So he acts bored...
1. He forgot to pack his props... needed to "Act Sad"...for the camera, or
2. He really is sad ????
I hope its the first option for the hoax sake. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSTwdbvLVeg&feature=fvst (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSTwdbvLVeg&feature=fvst)
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This is strange. I have often wondered why they would subject his children to this spectacle just two weeks after his passing. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. No one would do that to a child.
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The children were brought into spotlight intentionally and this public attention is their shelter and guard ever since. The public has embraced them from Memorial on as "how sweet", "how sad", "how brave" and whatever was projected on them. They became "family". If somebody would want to harm them, he would have a more difficult life after Memorial than before. It is a protecting fence. In addition, Michael was showing them all from Adlon balcony with pride. Nothing else. Father's pride and happiness for them being.
It was also a ritual introduction into the Jackson family clan on stage. This in addition being a protection showing that from now on, everybody of the Jackson's will be on their side.
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That makes a lot of sense and supports what we believe in then. I like the way you put that--it introduces the children into the Jackson clan and protects them from harm. Grace, why is his mother so sad? Is it because of his choice? Do you think the children were prepared for this?
Thank you.
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Liegi, I think every mom wants the best for her child no matter how difficult his/her life path may be. I think she just wished he would not have had to endure what was put as a weight on his shoulders. I think Katherine cried of love and hurt as a mom who wanted the best of life for her child and not such a tremendous effort, so many pains and so much work. I see so many "why?" written all over her face. This is my interpretation only though.
For the kids - I remember a very early tweet from an account claiming to be Prince saying "My father's a hero." I never doubted that.
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Grace, I love your interpretation of a Mother's Love...I too am a mother, and I know I would do whatever it takes, to protect my child from harm. Katherine is also struggling with seeing an empty coffin in front of her, and having to lie so openly in public, must take a toll on her and the family....
The thing that gets to me, is that all of the speeches were prepared for the speakers at that memorial......Michael obviously has been really busy preparing them all, and a way to publicly restore his image.
This family has entertainment blood in them....they do not know anything else....
To me, a slip up was when La Toya quickly went to Prince's aide, to remind him to look like he was crying....God bless you all...xxoxoxo
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Grace and 2good2betrue, thank you for your reminders and interpretations. How beautiful!! It did seem as if LaToya and Janet had their eyes on the children, directing them.
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what is interesting to me is that this is not the song michael requested to hear and sing with andre crouch last time he saw him which was a couple of weeks before the death.http://www.lyricsmania.com/it_won%E2%80 ... rouch.html (http://www.lyricsmania.com/it_won%E2%80%99t_be_long_lyrics_andrae_crouch.html)
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Couldn't they have gotten a close-up of this? I mean, finally one of the kids is supposedly crying tears, and we don't even get a close-up?
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The children were brought into spotlight intentionally and this public attention is their shelter and guard ever since. The public has embraced them from Memorial on as "how sweet", "how sad", "how brave" and whatever was projected on them. They became "family". If somebody would want to harm them, he would have a more difficult life after Memorial than before. It is a protecting fence. In addition, Michael was showing them all from Adlon balcony with pride. Nothing else. Father's pride and happiness for them being.
It was also a ritual introduction into the Jackson family clan on stage. This in addition being a protection showing that from now on, everybody of the Jackson's will be on their side.
Grace - I love your explanation. Thank you for this. I, personally, didn't notice LaToya had done that - perhaps because at that time I was also crying a river of tears, but I know how protective I have felt over those children since June 25th, 2009. And, I too, believe it was an introduction of these children into the eyes of the world. How else is Michael going to have these children go out in normal public without disguise? The media would have been horrible but this gave them the protective shield needed without the fear of harm by the media and tabloids. I do love these exceptional children. How blessed they are.
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No matter my belief.. I just can't watch. After more than 1 year, it brings tears into my eyes. I just can't watch or hear anything like this anymore. Sometimes I feel so down, sometimes I regain hope.. It's painful for me to watch this
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I haven't noticed it before. Jermaine, and Marlon they kissed the coffin when they went to sit down. That seems so final.. I guess they need to to that to throw us off.
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Now that I watch this...I find it strange that people are clapping and whistling as a coffin is being rolled into sight...what about that is weird (I know the fans are there to see the coffin...but clapping) nervous clapping...I don't know. This kills me to watch...now in retrospect...I think it should never have been sooo big...I mean maybe a small memorial that would be televised because I understand the need for fans to be able to grieve and say goodbye...I don't know..this just seems weird..unless of course its a HOAX. Still painful to watch :cry:
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Oh and I don't see any sunflowers...if they are Michael favorite flower you would think they would be all over the place.
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Oh and I don't see any sunflowers...if they are Michael favorite flower you would think they would be all over the place.
:shock: Excellent observation!
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Oh and I don't see any sunflowers...if they are Michael favorite flower you would think they would be all over the place.
:shock: Excellent observation!
I noticed that when it was the one year anniversary.....not one of the family members brought sunflowers....only the fans.. ;) ;)
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So what could the sunflowers mean as a clue? They link MJ to LMP, that's for sure. Also The Wizard of Oz. What's the connection?
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i'm italian and so i'm not very able to understand all the words in a song,but (correct me if i'm wrong) i hear "soon,very soon,we are going to see the king" when the video begins.... :roll: are they going to see a dead king?? maybe,the king in that coffin?? or......??
*LUNA*
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i'm italian and so i'm not very able to understand all the words in a song,but (correct me if i'm wrong) i hear "soon,very soon,we are going to see the king" when the video begins.... :roll: are they going to see a dead king?? maybe,the king in that coffin?? or......??
*LUNA*
yes, this is the line. It's from a religious song if I a not mistaken
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Watching this again brings back so much pain....I find myself choking up all over again. I have been through the death of both parents (God rest them...hurts to write that!) I will tell you it is painful....even years later. Especially, if you were close to them. I just don't know what to make of it sometimes. I just have faith all will be revealed and the truth will prevail.
On a different note......why on Earth are they allowing photography from the audience? There are many flashes going off.....seems highly, highly disrespectful. When the casket comes out....really? Makes me sort of ill to think about it. Maybe I am just too sensitive :roll:
Luna- the song is a gospel song talking about going to the king, as in Jesus. Here is a link for the whole lyrics:
http://www.music-lyrics-gospel.com/gosp ... n_4796.asp (http://www.music-lyrics-gospel.com/gospel_music_lyrics/soon_and_very_soon_4796.asp)
Hope that helps..... It can be very difficult to understand lyrics sometimes. Have a wonderful day!
Blessings Always!
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wishingstar i feel your pain cause i have lost my parents too when i was nearly at the same age as Prince, it's too painful. I coundn't help crying when i saw the momorial again, but, honestly, i cannot see Prince crying, i even cannot see him there at all in that video. And Grace, your post makes a lot sense.
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Watching this again brings back so much pain....I find myself choking up all over again. I have been through the death of both parents (God rest them...hurts to write that!) I will tell you it is painful....even years later. Especially, if you were close to them. I just don't know what to make of it sometimes. I just have faith all will be revealed and the truth will prevail.
I am sorry to hear that, wishingstar.. And this is what always made me shake my head since July 7 2009. I didn't know anything about a hoax back then and even so, for me, they all looked false, like squeezing tears and they weren't falling down their faces. I am not selfish, but even Paris' speech didn't impress me.. I didn't understand why back then, I just recall as it was yesterday. All I felt was huge pain, I couldn't relax my muscles while watching it and when I saw Paris crying... but without tears, it just gave me a cold feeling. At that point all I felt was anger seeing how the brothers looked like they were forcing themselves to look sad, hiding behind black sunglasses while indoors. My grandma died on August 4th 2010.. and my aunt (her daughter) was broken down. She didn't sleep 1 single minute since the moment my grandma died until her funeral. She looked... when I was looking at my aunt I couldn't believe my eyes she really was my aunt that I knew. In a blink of an eye she changed, she looked like she got 5 years older, swollen eyes, eyes that were showing suffering, that they were showing she was crying. She couldn't rise up away from my grandma's coffin. I recall as it was yesterday, when we told her to go away from the coffin at least 30 minutes, because she was staying there, crying over her mother's body: " I don't want to go. No, I don't want to. I can't stand I won't see her ever starting from tomorrow" _ "tomorrow" would have been the funeral. For me it was a deep pain, she was my dear grandma, and I cried a lot, it was a so horrible feeling.. seeing her in the coffin.. and she was my grandma... not a parent. In the Jacksons' eyes I never ever seen 1 single trace of real suffering. I recall the vivid image of Randy & Marlon back on June 27 2009, in their car, laughing and sending kisses to the fans who were taking photos of them. No single trace of suffering 2 days after their brother's death. katherine... June 28 2009, shopping sleeping bags and toys 3 days after her SON's death. She wasn't smilling, but Katherine is always having a rather sad look, and there was no new feeling on her face, she was as it would have been another day, another evening. And for a mother to loose a son is the most horrible thing in this world.. at least for the majority of the mothers.
The kids were smilling at their father's memorial, Prince looked bored.. making chewing gum baloons, Blanket was looking almost annoyed then when on stage he looked scared.
Someone explain all these... if their brother/father/son had died... someone explain me all this because I can't
wishingstar i feel your pain cause i have lost my parents too when i was nearly at the same age as Prince, it's too painful. I coundn't help crying when i saw the momorial again, but, honestly, i cannot see Prince crying, i even cannot see him there at all in that video. And Grace, your post makes a lot sense.
I am so sorry to hear this. You were so young.. If you lost your parents at that age too.. tell me, is it true that children at this age don't actually realise what to loose a parent is? Don't they understand the meaning of "death"? I had this age too.. and thank god I didn't loose my parents, but I do know that when I was this age I was terrified by the simple thought of having one of my parents dead.
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Luna- the song is a gospel song talking about going to the king, as in Jesus. Here is a link for the whole lyrics:
http://www.music-lyrics-gospel.com/gosp ... n_4796.asp (http://www.music-lyrics-gospel.com/gospel_music_lyrics/soon_and_very_soon_4796.asp)
Hope that helps..... It can be very difficult to understand lyrics sometimes. Have a wonderful day!
Blessings Always!
thanx for your link,wishingstar!! ;) i've focused my attention on the word "king".....we all know that mikael was called "the king" and,yes,it is a gospel,but i wonder why they've chosen this song,with this words..... is it a coincidence?? ....or a clue??? (or nothing?? :( )
*LUNA*
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thank u Tarja, actually not so many years have passed since their death, i'm 20 years now and it even hurts more than back at that time,i was mature enough to realize what happened and i could not get over it for a vey long time.
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My mother died when I was 14 years old. I too felt that the Jacksons emotions were "forced".....I would be sobbing the whole way through it. I couldn't contain myself even watching this, and its been 30 years since my mother passed.
That's why I started investigating the fake death. But at the same time, I didnt have to share my pain in front of millions of people. The Jacksons all have entertainment in their blood...they dont know anything else. I heard that only Brooke Sheilds decided to say her own words..she was handed a prepared speech by the family, but decided to use her own words, with their permission of course......Now that itself is really odd. And as we know, most of the people giving speeches, hadn't seen MJ is a long time..
To my new friends on this forum.....Thanks for sharing your stories of pain. :( :( :(