Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: hachiman on October 15, 2010, 02:39:57 PM
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Look, he's been gone for 15 months. 15!! And imagine how the fans would feel if he returned. They would feel pain if they found out that they'd been tricked by someone they loved and adored. So if MJ explains why he did this, fans might think about it, but a Concert might not still happen. Now for those on this site who won't forgive him, he had no choice. He did it just to get away from papparazis, teach the tabloids a lesson, etc or maybe someone was hired to have him dead just for his money. I would be happy if he was on the news right at this moment and I wouldn't feel sad at all and neither should you. As for Conrad Murray, nothing much on him yet. God bless.
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your right
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If MJ wants to do a concert when he comes back, no matter the venue, it would sell out almost instantly. I dont think he will ever perform live again, but if he does, he would be performing to a jammed packed venue. He's still Michael Jackson, 25,000 people would get over their anger and go to his concert.
I hear were you coming from completely. But I think people would be more happy, in time, that he's alive, than he faked his death in the first place.
I can't see why he would want to perform again, maybe to perform with his brothers one last time, or for his kids, but thats about it.
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I don't think anyone should count on a concert, I'd be very surprised if that's in the cards. I absolutely do not think it's about that at all.
I think the "King of Pop" really did die that day, not Michael the man, but that's my opinion based on the research I've done and the research of other members here.
When you think about the "big picture" and everything that is going on in the world, the idea of a comeback concert becomes null and void. It simply isn't important.
It would be awesome, don't get me wrong, but I don't think it's likely at all.
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Why should he even do another gig..?
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Why should he even do another gig..?
Yeah, I can't think of a good reason. And I totally wouldn't do it if I were him.
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I agree in that I don't think he'd do another concert, but part of me is sad in that we didnt really get a final concert acknowledging he was 'retiring' so-to-speak. I don't count This Is It. I just think it wouldve felt like a more complete career that we got to see end on a great note. Not sure if I phrased that right, but ya..
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I agree in that I don't think he'd do another concert, but part of me is sad in that we didnt really get a final concert acknowledging he was 'retiring' so-to-speak. I don't count This Is It. I just think it wouldve felt like a more complete career that we got to see end on a great note. Not sure if I phrased that right, but ya..
Oh I think it ended on a great note that's for sure... I mean come on, how could anyone beat THAT?! Plus a simple concert could only be seen by so many people. I personally have never seen him live, which yes I am disappointed about, but I wasn't going to be able to go to London to see him anyways...so I say this finale is much better. It's lasted 15 months and I've been thoroughly entertained every single day... :D
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I agree in that I don't think he'd do another concert, but part of me is sad in that we didnt really get a final concert acknowledging he was 'retiring' so-to-speak. I don't count This Is It. I just think it wouldve felt like a more complete career that we got to see end on a great note. Not sure if I phrased that right, but ya..
Oh I think it ended on a great note that's for sure... I mean come on, how could anyone beat THAT?! Plus a simple concert could only be seen by so many people. I personally have never seen him live, which yes I am disappointed about, but I wasn't going to be able to go to London to see him anyways...so I say this finale is much better. It's lasted 15 months and I've been thoroughly entertained every single day... :D
I don't know how to phrase this without getting yelled at, so I hope this comes across as I hope. I can't consider this a great note because honestly I feel like we're looking into clues that aren't really 'clues'. Like we're catering facts to support our view when they may not even mean that. I feel Michael is alive, but until there is some way of knowing absolutely for sure, I can't consider this a great note to end on. Career wise, I feel like his image was damaged so badly from the trials and everything, that his personal life began to overshadow his music. I'm going to assume for most of us, that wasn't the case. I love every bit of this man from what we know about him as a person, and the entertainment he gave us. I guess for me, the ultimate 'ending' to this would be Michael somehow showing the world he is alive and making history like he aspired to do.
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I agree in that I don't think he'd do another concert, but part of me is sad in that we didnt really get a final concert acknowledging he was 'retiring' so-to-speak. I don't count This Is It. I just think it wouldve felt like a more complete career that we got to see end on a great note. Not sure if I phrased that right, but ya..
Oh I think it ended on a great note that's for sure... I mean come on, how could anyone beat THAT?! Plus a simple concert could only be seen by so many people. I personally have never seen him live, which yes I am disappointed about, but I wasn't going to be able to go to London to see him anyways...so I say this finale is much better. It's lasted 15 months and I've been thoroughly entertained every single day... :D
I don't know how to phrase this without getting yelled at, so I hope this comes across as I hope. I can't consider this a great note because honestly I feel like we're looking into clues that aren't really 'clues'. Like we're catering facts to support our view when they may not even mean that. I feel Michael is alive, but until there is some way of knowing absolutely for sure, I can't consider this a great note to end on. Career wise, I feel like his image was damaged so badly from the trials and everything, that his personal life began to overshadow his music. I'm going to assume for most of us, that wasn't the case. I love every bit of this man from what we know about him as a person, and the entertainment he gave us. I guess for me, the ultimate 'ending' to this would be Michael somehow showing the world he is alive and making history like he aspired to do.
Well, then, in that case...give it some time. If he's alive, he'll let us know (which he has been letting us know in my opinion). I do think that is what will happen, but I can't say for sure. And if he's not alive, then we can't be mad at him for not ending on a high note because it wouldn't be his fault.
Again, I think the reasons for all of this goes far beyond Mike's musical career. It's much bigger than that and I don't believe that because I want to believe it but because the evidence leads me to believe that. Time will tell...
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Think he can still dance at 52? :p
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Think he can still dance at 52? :p
haha! pshhh..of course!
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What if he has arthritis? Look, just be honest. It's ok to think if he can or can't dance anymore.
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What if he has arthritis? Look, just be honest. It's ok to think if he can or can't dance anymore.
Your being very ageist, really ;) :shock: really, Im 56 *older than Michael" and have arthritis, I can still dance and so can many older people. Just saying. ;)
On topic, I do not mind if Michael never performs another concert, even though I had planned to go to the O2 London Concert in August, this hoax is by far and away more important than a mere concert performance, it was done for a much more serious reason in my opinion.
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I don't think anyone should count on a concert, I'd be very surprised if that's in the cards. I absolutely do not think it's about that at all.
I think the "King of Pop" really did die that day, not Michael the man, but that's my opinion based on the research I've done and the research of other members here.
When you think about the "big picture" and everything that is going on in the world, the idea of a comeback concert becomes null and void. It simply isn't important.
It would be awesome, don't get me wrong, but I don't think it's likely at all.
Well said! I agree with you 100%. There is a "much" bigger picture here. When MJ returns, he will return as just "Michael."
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If michael came back id just be happy :lol: a tour would be lovely but only if he wanted to do it and if it was all on his terms.
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I wood love to see him in conncert again because thats what it is all about Michael MUSIC .
I love you soo much Michael take care :)
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Now for those on this site who won't forgive him, he had no choice. He did it just to get away from papparazis, teach the tabloids a lesson, etc or maybe someone was hired to have him dead just for his money. I would be happy if he was on the news right at this moment and I wouldn't feel sad at all and neither should you. As for Conrad Murray, nothing much on him yet. God bless.
I think youre preaching to the wrong choir, the vast majority of us on this site are not the ones who will be upset when he returns...we're the ones who want him to return!!! Trust me, we're not the ones who will be feeling sad... We already know "why" he did this, we've done 15 months of research on it.
I think Michael is perfectly capable of doing more concerts if he chooses to, but there's no way of knowing if he'll want to or not, I doubt he will, and that's unfortunate (downright sucks in my opinion!), but it's his decision and we have to respect that.
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I can see a massive "woodstock" gathering with Mike speaking his message and having a lineup of all those musicians that have worked with him on his music. One big "LOVEfest" ... maybe one of these on each of the continents. A large outdoor event to accomodate a million people... Woah! Mike doesn't have to sing...We can do that for him...LOL. Just speak his mind! And smile at US! OH God, I am really wishing aren't I? :shock: :lol:
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I'm good with whatever MJ decides he wants to do. I just want to see him live on TV, live on the internet, best live in person but unlikely where I live. Mostly love to hear him speak his heart, of course I would love love love to hear him sing, see him dance, but those are all just extras. It grieves me that I wasn't interested in him when he was live through the years, though I did watch the Oprah interview live out of curiousity and remember being enthralled with him, but immediately went back to whatever I was doing. Rather than concerts, if his heart is in acting at all in the future as well as writing/directing/producing, I would love to see him acting in movies. In fact I just can't enough of seeing that man which ever way I can, whichever way he chooses. :oops:
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I dont think that he'll do a concert either, all this is bigger and more important than a concert,either smth bigger and more shocking is gonna happen when he comes back( it's my gut feeling) or nth will ever happen, he will choose to stay invisible, behind the curtain and rule everything
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From what we are learning June 25th 2009 was the end of Michael Jackson the performer, so if this is true, you'll never see him on stage singing or dancing or touring ever again. He wants to direct and produce. He may never return at all ever.
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In the last couple of days I have seen quite some negative, pessimistic posts. I'm glad to see that the vast majority of our members is not affected by them. This shows that i.e. TS' posts, which contain solid evidence, have been thoroughly read, and that the vast majority of members have solid faith in Mike. Thank you for that!
Regarding posting the negative comments - If the shoe fits, wear it.
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Think he can still dance at 52? :p
Neil Finn was born in same year as MJ ,and he still going good for concerts and stuff :d, Neil Finn, part of Split Enz, Finn Brothers & Crouded House as some of his groups over the years.
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There's more than a million people on this planet. And there may be thousands who'll have hatred inside of them for the rest of their lifes if he comes back.
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I think most of us are prepared for whatever life brings us now. I know whatever Michael decides to do is what is best.
Total support from me and millions!
Still practicing my "I told you so!!" dance and I am 54!
We Love you Michael, be well, be happy, just be you.
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You know what sucks I was going to see him in London for the first time ever :( but I'm not mad he saved his own life he might not ever perform again but I'm sure he will give us music but one more moonwalk wouldn't hurt lol
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I haven't felt that anyone one on this site will be mad when Michael returns. If there is any anger, it would only be directed at the circumstances that existed to force Michael to take such drastic measures. And after all that Michael has done for the millions of people he has touched with his music, his charity and humanitarian contributions, there is nothing to forgive. If anything, we should be asking his forgiveness. I will be in such a delirious state of bliss, joy, love and hope when he does make himself known again that there'll no room for any other feelings.
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Michael's true fans will understand why he left and understand when he returns. As stated, why would he return to do concerts? He did his concert, This Is It. He wanted to give us one last show and he did. When Michael comes back, I am sure he has a bunch of projects he will be/is working on. I am sure he is a multitasker and his mind is spinning thinking about all of the possiblities out there and he is using this time to work on many things. I really don't think any of us will be angry when he returns. Myself, I just want to know that he is safe and happy. He deserves nothing but the best and a chance to live his life the way he really wants to. I think his real fans will love and understand him no matter what. If someone is angry when he returns, well then they just don't understand the real reason why we are here. Take care, Love to all.
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There's more than a million people on this planet. And there may be thousands who'll have hatred inside of them for the rest of their lifes if he comes back.
you can guarantee i am not one of those :lol: that why we teach those who hate, into loving :D
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Michael's true fans will understand why he left and understand when he returns. As stated, why would he return to do concerts? He did his concert, This Is It. He wanted to give us one last show and he did. When Michael comes back, I am sure he has a bunch of projects he will be/is working on. I am sure he is a multitasker and his mind is spinning thinking about all of the possiblities out there and he is using this time to work on many things. I really don't think any of us will be angry when he returns. Myself, I just want to know that he is safe and happy. He deserves nothing but the best and a chance to live his life the way he really wants to. I think his real fans will love and understand him no matter what. If someone is angry when he returns, well then they just don't understand the real reason why we are here. Take care, Love to all.
I agree with all my heart
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i would just be happy when and if he returned i wouldnt need a concert just knowing he,s safe and well would be enough for me even though theres nothing i,d love better than to see michael live performing but or even to see him live would be enough for me i love michael so much he deserves to do what he wants :D
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Michael's true fans will understand why he left and understand when he returns. As stated, why would he return to do concerts? He did his concert, This Is It. He wanted to give us one last show and he did. When Michael comes back, I am sure he has a bunch of projects he will be/is working on. I am sure he is a multitasker and his mind is spinning thinking about all of the possiblities out there and he is using this time to work on many things. I really don't think any of us will be angry when he returns. Myself, I just want to know that he is safe and happy. He deserves nothing but the best and a chance to live his life the way he really wants to. I think his real fans will love and understand him no matter what. If someone is angry when he returns, well then they just don't understand the real reason why we are here. Take care, Love to all.
This is true!!! This I also think....
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Michael's true fans will understand why he left and understand when he returns. As stated, why would he return to do concerts? He did his concert, This Is It. He wanted to give us one last show and he did. When Michael comes back, I am sure he has a bunch of projects he will be/is working on. I am sure he is a multitasker and his mind is spinning thinking about all of the possiblities out there and he is using this time to work on many things. I really don't think any of us will be angry when he returns. Myself, I just want to know that he is safe and happy. He deserves nothing but the best and a chance to live his life the way he really wants to. I think his real fans will love and understand him no matter what. If someone is angry when he returns, well then they just don't understand the real reason why we are here. Take care, Love to all.
Wow, like some other people here, I agree with you. :)
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Just a question - if Michael does 'Bam', do you think he will remain in hiding? And if so for how long? I mean, he's obviously there for a reason, it would only make sense to come back when it's safe, but when is that and what needs to happen for that to be the case?
Your thoughts would be appreciated.
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I have been thinking lately about a "BAM" possibility and how I would react if and when that happens.
I think it would be a good thing.
If it is true that this hoax has been created to expose how news travels fast and how different medias serve news according to the agenda at the moment, and it has been the case that MJ has been used and abused by how the media has portrayed him in the past labeling as names we already know, then I find almost neccesarely that MJ tells the world.
If the case is "the greatest show on earth", he needs to say it as well.
I think that up to this point, MJ´s message has become more important than his concerts and if he comes back on stage, would be a good idea for him to "promote" his messages to reach us all.
I got very impressed 1st time I watched a MJ speech. It reached my heart dearly and, to be honest, I deeply miss more of those :(
We, MJ supporters and fans are a little "odd" ;) (or at least I see myself odd ;))some of us can see beyond, others can think outside the box, others are naive, others very religious... but at the end we are united by him and that is per se "the greatest show on earth".
What do people say? MJ fans are the best and most loyal of the world!!
So, a Bam is going to be more than welcome if ever happens and if not I guess we have learned a bit on the way.
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Think he can still dance at 52? :p
As long as he's being taken care of, he can do anything! :D
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Michael's true fans will understand why he left and understand when he returns.
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I think his real fans will love and understand him no matter what.
It's not about being a "true" or "real" fan, it's about using brains and common sense. I'm sorry to say it, but the vast majority of his "true" and "real" fans never understood his message, and still don't. Unless he literally spoon feeds these people about why he did what he did when he pops up again they will never understand.
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Michael's true fans will understand why he left and understand when he returns.
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I think his real fans will love and understand him no matter what.
It's not about being a "true" or "real" fan, it's about using brains and common sense. I'm sorry to say it, but the vast majority of his "true" and "real" fans never understood his message, and still don't. Unless he literally spoon feeds these people about why he did what he did when he pops up again they will never understand.
So may be is time to start spoon feeding.
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Michael's true fans will understand why he left and understand when he returns.
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I think his real fans will love and understand him no matter what.
It's not about being a "true" or "real" fan, it's about using brains and common sense. I'm sorry to say it, but the vast majority of his "true" and "real" fans never understood his message, and still don't. Unless he literally spoon feeds these people about why he did what he did when he pops up again they will never understand.
So may be is time to start spoon feeding.
The problem with spoon feeding is that if people don't research, read, learn and understand, they won't become aware. If Mike tells plain out why he did what he did, people won't have learned anything. But I agree that at a certain point there's no other option but to spoon feed...
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After 15+ months, those fans are not the researching types. Spoon feeding is needed.
Yes to spoon feed!!
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After 15+ months, those fans are not the researching types. Spoon feeding is needed.
Yes to spoon feed!!
I can already picture you as the captain of the demonstration " SAY YES TO SPOON FEEDING!" :lol:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/spoonfeed.jpg)
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AAahhhh :lol: I was on my way creating the pic :lol: you read my miiiind :lol:
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Now seriously,
If MJ wants himself to deliver the message reaching everyone, he has no other option than doing it sooner or later.
We are looked upon as weirdos, lunatics, non reliable, mental, not able to let it go, conspiracists, wakos....in two words, non trustable.
Only Michael can reach out to everyone , or one of his family members could, but not us. We give the impression of being sectarians.
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Hi Mo:
I get what you are saying about the spoon feeding and I agree with you. I am a true/real fan of Michael's for 40 plus years and I understand what he stands for. I have very good common sense and have done a lot of research. I have been very successful in turning non believers into believers. However, there are many "fans" out there that are just into Michael cause he's "cute" or sings great so on and so on. Those are the fans that need the spoon feeding. But would it matter? Would they understand what Michael is about? I am finding more now than ever, people just don't care about causes or even people. Some times I think "they" are lost causes and can't be made to understand anything. So back to the reading, researching and using brains and common sense....maybe we need a thread on how our people can reach others, how they approach others concerning Michael, what he stands for... I find talking about all the good he has done for the world can really open up good conversation with others. Others as in sensible people, I do avoid negative people at times just because it's a waste of good energy. I visit this forum religiously everyday, I am not a huge poster, I can tell you in my line of work, I reach many people and my favorite topics of conversations are food, Michael and my dogs! Sounds crazy.....everyone who knows me knows I am crazy and silly. But I believe in reaching people through sense of humor, laughter and true human kindness. It works trust me. Maybe we need to start listing suggestions on how we can spoon feed people???? Take care, Love to All
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I think Michael can dance just fine, he never lost it, if you ask me. Also, i can just picture him doing one last performance, like he did in moonwalker when he performed Come Together. One final bow on the stage, for his children, for us.
I beLIEve that soon the world will know what we know, and that is, that Michael is innocent. After everything is exposed no one will be able to blame him for faking his death. IDK, but this is how I feel in my heart anyway 8-) .
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So when do you think he'll come back? Read this: viewtopic.php?f=49&t=14073 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=14073)
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Hi Mo:
I get what you are saying about the spoon feeding and I agree with you. I am a true/real fan of Michael's for 40 plus years and I understand what he stands for. I have very good common sense and have done a lot of research. I have been very successful in turning non believers into believers. However, there are many "fans" out there that are just into Michael cause he's "cute" or sings great so on and so on. Those are the fans that need the spoon feeding. But would it matter? Would they understand what Michael is about? I am finding more now than ever, people just don't care about causes or even people. Some times I think "they" are lost causes and can't be made to understand anything. So back to the reading, researching and using brains and common sense....maybe we need a thread on how our people can reach others, how they approach others concerning Michael, what he stands for... I find talking about all the good he has done for the world can really open up good conversation with others. Others as in sensible people, I do avoid negative people at times just because it's a waste of good energy. I visit this forum religiously everyday, I am not a huge poster, I can tell you in my line of work, I reach many people and my favorite topics of conversations are food, Michael and my dogs! Sounds crazy.....everyone who knows me knows I am crazy and silly. But I believe in reaching people through sense of humor, laughter and true human kindness. It works trust me. Maybe we need to start listing suggestions on how we can spoon feed people???? Take care, Love to All
Hi sandythyme,
In my opinion, no one is a lost cause... I do feel that we, the ones who understand Mike's Message, have the obligation to spread it. Teaching people through sense of humor, laughter and true human kindness is an excellent way, although every now and then you will have to be firm. People who reject your "education" will eventually somehow end up in a situation which reminds them of your "lessons", and they will start thinking for themselves after all even though it might be on a small scale. Then it's Mission Achieved. Stay positive :D
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Thanks Mo, I really appreciate your reply. I take one day at a time and keep plugging away! Most days I feel successful....and then there are other days......Thanks again, Take care!!
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Look, he's been gone for 15 months. 15!! And imagine how the fans would feel if he returned. They would feel pain if they found out that they'd been tricked by someone they loved and adored. So if MJ explains why he did this, fans might think about it, but a Concert might not still happen. Now for those on this site who won't forgive him, he had no choice. He did it just to get away from papparazis, teach the tabloids a lesson, etc or maybe someone was hired to have him dead just for his money. I would be happy if he was on the news right at this moment and I wouldn't feel sad at all and neither should you. As for Conrad Murray, nothing much on him yet. God bless.
Imagine how the people will feel when they find out they have been lied to about almost everything in this world. Yet they still need to know.
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Look, he's been gone for 15 months. 15!! And imagine how the fans would feel if he returned. They would feel pain if they found out that they'd been tricked by someone they loved and adored. So if MJ explains why he did this, fans might think about it, but a Concert might not still happen. Now for those on this site who won't forgive him, he had no choice. He did it just to get away from papparazis, teach the tabloids a lesson, etc or maybe someone was hired to have him dead just for his money. I would be happy if he was on the news right at this moment and I wouldn't feel sad at all and neither should you. As for Conrad Murray, nothing much on him yet. God bless.
Imagine how the people will feel when they find out they have been lied to about almost everything in this world. Yet they still need to know.
Exaaaactly! The fans (I'm his #1 fan by the way lol) will be just fine if they just get over themselves and their imaginary relationship with him (myself included haha, if I can do it you can do it! :lol: ) and WAKE UP!!
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So when do you think he returns? Look at this. viewtopic.php?f=49&t=14073 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=14073)