Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: Venus on October 14, 2010, 05:14:29 PM

Title: Don't you think...
Post by: Venus on October 14, 2010, 05:14:29 PM
that if MJ really hoaxed his death he'd make it more spectacular?  He would let the world see him at least once to convince he's gone. (There's Elvis picture in the coffin)
The fact that we didn't see the body actually doesn't fit with the hoax. Would it be more convincing if he could just pretend dead on the stretcher or in ambulance? He loved to prank and to act and that could be his best part, a chance of a lifetime...
And the story with Karen Faye... I can easy believe she would say anything MJ would ask, but Michael Bush? do you really think that Michael Bush would lie and cry in front of the camera how he put MJ into the casket? :roll:
Title: Re: Don't you think...
Post by: Cameron on October 14, 2010, 05:25:41 PM
The Death Hoax isn't enough spectacular for you ?
All the clues he left to us ?
All the messages he gives us ?
All the media pressure during several month about his death isn't enough ? All people all around the world singing and dancing after June 25th ?
All the radios, TVs, broadcasting his music and videos since June 25th like they never did it before ?
Michael's album sold at 30millions all around the world in only 1 year isn't enough ?

I think this genius he's doing something really great and spectacular, and you know what, this is not finished, it remains the BAMS DAY  :D

"You aien't seen nothing yet and the best is yet to come"
Title: Re: Don't you think...
Post by: Venus on October 14, 2010, 05:39:08 PM
Quote from: "Cameron"
The Death Hoax isn't enough spectacular for you ?
All the clues he left to us ?
All the messages he gives us ?
All the media pressure during several month about his death isn't enough ? All people all around the world singing and dancing after June 25th ?
All the radios, TVs, broadcasting his music and videos since June 25th like they never did it before ?
Michael's album sold at 30millions all around the world in only 1 year isn't enough ?

I think this genius he's doing something really great and spectacular, and you know what, this is not finished, it remains the BAMS DAY  :D

"You aien't seen nothing yet and the best is yet to come"

Cameron, Hi!
All those tributes would happen anyway, because the whole world actually loves Michael and always loved him but had a chance to discover it only when MJ ...
Do you really think that he still plans the Bamsday? Don't you think his life (if he's here) is way better than before? He's free, rich and has his privacy, finally.
Maybe he never wanted to be remembered as 60 years old MJ, 70 years old MJ and so on. Maybe he wants to walk without bodyguards and drive a car,drink vodka and date with someone special? Maybe he simply doesn't feel good enough to live the life he used to live. Maybe he's sick and tired of being Peter Pan and wants to be real common person and to be treated like anyone else?
Title: Re: Don't you think...
Post by: scorpionchik on October 15, 2010, 01:35:05 AM
It might be very hard to live as unknown person after being Michael Jackson. He will enjoy that couple of years then miss himself. I can't believe MJ can live until his real death as unknown person in disguise. If he is in death hoax, it is very hard for him, he would not enjoy his fans pain & be away from the stage. On the other hand, when I remeber Katerine in Target store in June 29 buying sleeping bags, I have no doubt that Michael is alive.
Title: Re: Don't you think...
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on October 15, 2010, 01:31:25 PM
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
It might be very hard to live as unknown person after being Michael Jackson. He will enjoy that couple of years then miss himself. I can't believe MJ can live until his real death as unknown person in disguise. If he is in death hoax, it is very hard for him, he would not enjoy his fans pain & be away from the stage. On the other hand, when I remeber Katerine in Target store in June 29 buying sleeping bags, I have no doubt that Michael is alive.

That is one thing I do not understand Katherine going to store a buy sleeping bags. I understand she may have needed to accomodate Michael children, but why her. when she has body guards to go for her. Something does not add up.
Title: Re: Don't you think...
Post by: Venus on October 15, 2010, 02:47:43 PM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
It might be very hard to live as unknown person after being Michael Jackson. He will enjoy that couple of years then miss himself. I can't believe MJ can live until his real death as unknown person in disguise. If he is in death hoax, it is very hard for him, he would not enjoy his fans pain & be away from the stage. On the other hand, when I remeber Katerine in Target store in June 29 buying sleeping bags, I have no doubt that Michael is alive.

That is one thing I do not understand Katherine going to store a buy sleeping bags. I understand she may have needed to accomodate Michael children, but why her. when she has body guards to go for her. Something does not add up.


Does she really have bodyguards? I've never seen any around.
Title: Re: Don't you think...
Post by: Venus on October 15, 2010, 02:51:56 PM
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
It might be very hard to live as unknown person after being Michael Jackson. He will enjoy that couple of years then miss himself. I can't believe MJ can live until his real death as unknown person in disguise. If he is in death hoax, it is very hard for him, he would not enjoy his fans pain & be away from the stage. On the other hand, when I remember Katerine in Target store in June 29 buying sleeping bags, I have no doubt that Michael is alive.

I think that MJ had been thinking about the escape for decades, after Elvis death. Maybe he's really tired of public attention, especially because he's aging and he has never been satisfied with his look completely. He said it in Shmuley's book. I think that he lived in disguise all those years, so he's ok with that. But this time no paparazzi around his door.
Title: Re: Don't you think...
Post by: *Mo* on October 15, 2010, 03:02:38 PM

Oh yeah, and that's why he did those meaningful speeches, and that's why he wrote all those significant lyrics, and that's why he used all that symbolism in his videos and short films, and that's why this hoax is flooded numerology...  

All of the above just to GTFO and live peacefully and quiet...really tired of public attention...

(http://www.sybvanderploeg-info.nl/images/smiles/smiley_nah.gif)
Title: Re: Don't you think...
Post by: Venus on October 15, 2010, 03:27:25 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"

Oh yeah, and that's why he did those meaningful speeches, and that's why he wrote all those significant lyrics, and that's why he used all that symbolism in his videos and short films, and that's why this hoax is flooded numerology...  

All of the above just to GTFO and live peacefully and quiet...really tired of public attention...

(http://www.sybvanderploeg-info.nl/images/smiles/smiley_nah.gif)

Maybe he did that because he wanted real fans to understand that he's alive? Maybe he wanted to ease the pain. Not every MJ fan wants to live in this world without MJ. To leave messages and let people know doesn't mean to comeback.
Title: Re: Don't you think...
Post by: Venus on October 15, 2010, 03:28:05 PM
BTW, I would love him to comeback, but this is just surreal.
Title: Re: Don't you think...
Post by: *Mo* on October 15, 2010, 03:43:20 PM
Quote from: "Venus"
Quote from: "*Mo*"

Oh yeah, and that's why he did those meaningful speeches, and that's why he wrote all those significant lyrics, and that's why he used all that symbolism in his videos and short films, and that's why this hoax is flooded numerology...  

All of the above just to GTFO and live peacefully and quiet...really tired of public attention...

(http://www.sybvanderploeg-info.nl/images/smiles/smiley_nah.gif)

Maybe he did that because he wanted real fans to understand that he's alive? Maybe he wanted to ease the pain. Not every MJ fan wants to live in this world without MJ. To leave messages and let people know doesn't mean to comeback.

I didn't mean "come back clues", I was taking about HIS Message, which he has been spreading for over 2 decades.  I'm sorry to say it, but the vast majority of his fans never understood his message, and still don't.
Title: Re: Don't you think...
Post by: Puff on October 15, 2010, 03:51:05 PM
Quote from: "Venus"
Quote from: "*Mo*"

Oh yeah, and that's why he did those meaningful speeches, and that's why he wrote all those significant lyrics, and that's why he used all that symbolism in his videos and short films, and that's why this hoax is flooded numerology...  

All of the above just to GTFO and live peacefully and quiet...really tired of public attention...

(http://www.sybvanderploeg-info.nl/images/smiles/smiley_nah.gif)

Maybe he did that because he wanted real fans to understand that he's alive? Maybe he wanted to ease the pain. Not every MJ fan wants to live in this world without MJ. To leave messages and let people know doesn't mean to comeback.


well, 80% of his real fans think that he is actually...ehm...... dead.......  :roll:
Title: Re: Don't you think...
Post by: *Mo* on October 15, 2010, 03:54:03 PM
Quote from: "Puff"
Quote from: "Venus"
Quote from: "*Mo*"

Oh yeah, and that's why he did those meaningful speeches, and that's why he wrote all those significant lyrics, and that's why he used all that symbolism in his videos and short films, and that's why this hoax is flooded numerology...  

All of the above just to GTFO and live peacefully and quiet...really tired of public attention...

(http://www.sybvanderploeg-info.nl/images/smiles/smiley_nah.gif)

Maybe he did that because he wanted real fans to understand that he's alive? Maybe he wanted to ease the pain. Not every MJ fan wants to live in this world without MJ. To leave messages and let people know doesn't mean to comeback.


well, 80% of his real fans think that he is actually...ehm...... dead.......  :roll:

80%?  I even dare to say 99%...
Title: Re: Don't you think...
Post by: Puff on October 15, 2010, 03:55:13 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "Puff"
Quote from: "Venus"
Quote from: "*Mo*"

Oh yeah, and that's why he did those meaningful speeches, and that's why he wrote all those significant lyrics, and that's why he used all that symbolism in his videos and short films, and that's why this hoax is flooded numerology...  

All of the above just to GTFO and live peacefully and quiet...really tired of public attention...

(http://www.sybvanderploeg-info.nl/images/smiles/smiley_nah.gif)

Maybe he did that because he wanted real fans to understand that he's alive? Maybe he wanted to ease the pain. Not every MJ fan wants to live in this world without MJ. To leave messages and let people know doesn't mean to comeback.


well, 80% of his real fans think that he is actually...ehm...... dead.......  :roll:

80%?  I even dare to say 99%...

Think positive!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Don't you think...
Post by: *Mo* on October 15, 2010, 03:56:20 PM
Quote from: "Puff"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "Puff"
Quote from: "Venus"
Quote from: "*Mo*"

Oh yeah, and that's why he did those meaningful speeches, and that's why he wrote all those significant lyrics, and that's why he used all that symbolism in his videos and short films, and that's why this hoax is flooded numerology...  

All of the above just to GTFO and live peacefully and quiet...really tired of public attention...

(http://www.sybvanderploeg-info.nl/images/smiles/smiley_nah.gif)

Maybe he did that because he wanted real fans to understand that he's alive? Maybe he wanted to ease the pain. Not every MJ fan wants to live in this world without MJ. To leave messages and let people know doesn't mean to comeback.


well, 80% of his real fans think that he is actually...ehm...... dead.......  :roll:

80%?  I even dare to say 99%...

Think positive!  :mrgreen:

(http://www.sybvanderploeg-info.nl/images/smiles/hihi.gif)
Title: Re: Don't you think...
Post by: jacilovesmichael on October 15, 2010, 04:01:37 PM
Isn't it interesting that it's mostly non-fans that think he's alive? I don't know about you guys, but the people the I come across in my life, I've found that the ones who are most receptive to considering the possibility are people who aren't fans... I know a lot of people here are fans, but there are alot that aren't. One of my friend's brothers HATES MJ, like literally hates him, but was the first to agree with me that he wasn't dead.

It's interesting, I wonder if the majority of the fans are just too overcome with grief, shock, and a sense of disappointment because they feel entitled to seeing Michael perform and make music forever..or something..

When I first found out about the 'death', I was literally rolled up in a ball crying for days. It wasn't until I stopped crying and stopped getting so caught up in my own selfish emotions that I started to notice that he clearly wasn't dead...
Title: Re: Don't you think...
Post by: Venus on October 15, 2010, 04:49:44 PM
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
Isn't it interesting that it's mostly non-fans that think he's alive? I don't know about you guys, but the people the I come across in my life, I've found that the ones who are most receptive to considering the possibility are people who aren't fans... I know a lot of people here are fans, but there are alot that aren't. One of my friend's brothers HATES MJ, like literally hates him, but was the first to agree with me that he wasn't dead.

It's interesting, I wonder if the majority of the fans are just too overcome with grief, shock, and a sense of disappointment because they feel entitled to seeing Michael perform and make music forever..or something..

When I first found out about the 'death', I was literally rolled up in a ball crying for days. It wasn't until I stopped crying and stopped getting so caught up in my own selfish emotions that I started to notice that he clearly wasn't dead...

Most of his fans think he's dead, because they think MJ is too innocent and he just couldn't hurt his kids and fans. They think that MJ is an angel, but wait a minute - he's a human being and it is HIS life, not ours, and he can decide for himself.
Well, if he's alive I don't see any reason how he could hurt his kids... The opposite, if he's dead - then he's definitely fucking screwed.
Title: Re: Don't you think...
Post by: ~Souza~ on October 15, 2010, 04:57:29 PM
This hoax not spectacular? Eh?? I must have been following a different hoax then... And it's not even over yet.  :?
Title: Re: Don't you think...
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on October 15, 2010, 08:50:51 PM
Quote from: "Venus"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
It might be very hard to live as unknown person after being Michael Jackson. He will enjoy that couple of years then miss himself. I can't believe MJ can live until his real death as unknown person in disguise. If he is in death hoax, it is very hard for him, he would not enjoy his fans pain & be away from the stage. On the other hand, when I remeber Katerine in Target store in June 29 buying sleeping bags, I have no doubt that Michael is alive.

That is one thing I do not understand Katherine going to store a buy sleeping bags. I understand she may have needed to accomodate Michael children, but why her. when she has body guards to go for her. Something does not add up.


Does she really have bodyguards? I've never seen any around.


well the day she went to buy the sleeping bags she had the body guards with her.. I guess she has them.
Title: Re: Don't you think...
Post by: mjsgirl89 on October 18, 2010, 01:42:45 AM
Quote from: "Venus"
that if MJ really hoaxed his death he'd make it more spectacular?  He would let the world see him at least once to convince he's gone. (There's Elvis picture in the coffin)
The fact that we didn't see the body actually doesn't fit with the hoax. Would it be more convincing if he could just pretend dead on the stretcher or in ambulance? He loved to prank and to act and that could be his best part, a chance of a lifetime...
And the story with Karen Faye... I can easy believe she would say anything MJ would ask, but Michael Bush? do you really think that Michael Bush would lie and cry in front of the camera how he put MJ into the casket? :roll:

This hoax is definitely SPECTACULAR and maybe he's not trying to convince us he's gone...maybe he wants us to know the truth and it's our job to figure it out
Title: Re: Don't you think...
Post by: RK on October 18, 2010, 10:49:13 AM
This hoax IS spectacular. I thank God on a daily  basis that I'm  alive at this time in HIStory to see this play out with my own eyes. It has taken all my free time for the past 16 months and I wouldn't change any part of it. I'm not desperate for BAM day as over time I have come to appreciate the journey as much as the destination.
Take as long as you need Mike. I'm just happy to be in the classroom.
Title: Re: Don't you think...
Post by: Grace on October 18, 2010, 03:36:58 PM
Quote from: "RK"
Take as long as you need Mike. I'm just happy to be in the classroom.

100% correct.
Love it, get tired of it, get inspired of it, get unknown forces from it, and after all a HUGE smile that does not want to leave my face no matter how dumb others think I might be...  :lol:  
and I am very happy to have found the door to sneak into this roller-coaster and God are we funny from time to time and sometimes we are so stupid, we have to reread again and again and again and sometimes we are just phantastic
Thank God I am here at the right place in the right time.
Just glad to have been called in.  :D
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