Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => TMZ.com => Michael Jackson News => TMZ Articles => Topic started by: BeTheChange on October 13, 2010, 08:14:00 AM
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41 minutes ago by TMZ Staff
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Randy Jackson is outraged that his parents allowed Oprah Winfrey in the Jackson family home for an interview ... because he thinks Oprah tried to put his dead brother in jail.
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/10/13/1013-opran-randy-bn-credit.jpg)
Randy Tweeted last night that he was beside himself that Joe and Katherine Jackson would invite a woman into their home who tried to poison the jury in the Michael Jackson molestation trial.
Randy notes ... Oprah did a show on pedophilia during jury deliberations and, as he puts it, "That was no coincidence."
Randy goes on ... "She is the last person on earth he [Michael] would want around his children."
Randy says he had no idea the interview was going to take place and thinks his parents made a bad mistake.
http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/13/randy-jackson-oprah-winfrey-michael-jackson-joe-jackson-katherine-jackson-interview-molesation-trial-jury-deliberations/
With L.O.V.E. always.
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How in the hell this is breaking news? :roll:
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It seems that we, once again, have two completely different stories. On the one hand, Randy is controlling Katherine's every move and is the instigator of everything she's doing. Now we have this story suggesting that Randy knew nothing about the Oprah interview (so he had no control over Katherine's decision). Interesting...
With L.O.V.E. always.
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It seems that we, once again, have two completely different stories. On the one hand, Randy is controlling Katherine's every move and is the instigator of everything she's doing. Now we have this story suggesting that Randy knew nothing about the Oprah interview (so he had no control over Katherine's decision). Interesting...
With L.O.V.E. always.
seems to be that way with every one. can't figure out if there is an intent or what
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I honestly think with a lot of the MJ-related stories TMZ does, they check this site and see what we're talking about. We give them the info, they may or may not bother confirming it then they run with it.
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Katherine is no puppet of Joe or Randy, remember "Katherine was the agent of Michael" (look at the link), for some reason this interview was done, we'll see what it said. ;)
http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/11/conrad-mu (http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/11/conrad-mu) ... ian-Oxman /
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Better forum link
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=14748 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=14748)
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And have not asked that of all the brothers, Randy is the one who always is complaining of everything that makes Katherine? :?: 8-)
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Ok this is how I see all of this...
Oprah's image will be in a bad light! Why?! because people will realize that only she wants is audience (audience=money)!!
First, she did an interview back in '93 with Michael, putting him some embarrassing questions. She just wanted sensational from him. This interview was watched by millions of people (=audience=money)
Then she did interviews with LMP, LMP & her mother.... to destroy Michael's image, to make him a bad image!! What awful was that! She destroyed Michael's image without mercy!! She didn't care of him, that he is an artist with real feelings, and not an artificial superstar! That interview was watched by millions, again money!
Now, after Michael's "death" what she is trying to do? Another exclusive interview! She told all that bad things about Michael, and now she does an interview with his parents...she is not ashamed?? But again lets not forget, will be of course watch by millions of people (audience=money)
She has so many faces..."the wolf can change his fur, but his habits can't"
I think it's pay back time, really! And this article proves this! TMZ did a good job with this, because quoting Randy, people will remember what Oprah did to Michael years ago, and what she is trying to do now! :D
This is the beginning of a revenge in a very intelligent, strategic and diplomatic way, by levels! And Michael is the mastermind! ;)
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41 minutes ago by TMZ Staff
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Randy Jackson is outraged that his parents allowed Oprah Winfrey in the Jackson family home for an interview ... because he thinks Oprah tried to put his dead brother in jail.
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/10/13/1013-opran-randy-bn-credit.jpg)
Randy Tweeted last night that he was beside himself that Joe and Katherine Jackson would invite a woman into their home who tried to poison the jury in the Michael Jackson molestation trial.
Randy notes ... Oprah did a show on pedophilia during jury deliberations and, as he puts it, "That was no coincidence."
Randy goes on ... "She is the last person on earth he [Michael] would want around his children."
Randy says he had no idea the interview was going to take place and thinks his parents made a bad mistake.
http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/13/randy-jackson-oprah-winfrey-michael-jackson-joe-jackson-katherine-jackson-interview-molesation-trial-jury-deliberations/
With L.O.V.E. always.
Maybe I'm reaching here, but it stood out to me how every paragraph starts with the letter "R", making 5 R's. It seems deliberate and not a coincidence. So I googled 5 R's and found a few things. First is the Five Rights of Medication Administration (sometimes called the 5 R's) which are: Right Patient, Right Drug, Right Amount, Right Route, and Right Time. Right PATIENT stuck out to me as we've been discussing the possibility of someone else, perhaps a double, dying that day.
Or there's the 5 R's for the environment - Reduce, Reuse, Recycle, Renew, Respect. http://essentialkeystrokes.com/5-rs-for-a-greener-world/
Also found this website: http://www.rrrrthats5rs.com/ (http://www.rrrrthats5rs.com/)
Check out some of the names of the games on there, very interesting. For example, "Make the World a Better Place" and "The Road Less Taken"...
RRRRThats5Rs.com was created in early 2006 with the goal of satirizing and mocking online gaming, but has grown into a social experiment. The site's games are designed to be simple, frustrating and pointless to see how players will react to slight changes of expected gaming behavior.
Hmmm...
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41 minutes ago by TMZ Staff
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Randy Jackson is outraged that his parents allowed Oprah Winfrey in the Jackson family home for an interview ... because he thinks Oprah tried to put his dead brother in jail.
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/10/13/1013-opran-randy-bn-credit.jpg)
Randy Tweeted last night that he was beside himself that Joe and Katherine Jackson would invite a woman into their home who tried to poison the jury in the Michael Jackson molestation trial.
Randy notes ... Oprah did a show on pedophilia during jury deliberations and, as he puts it, "That was no coincidence."
Randy goes on ... "She is the last person on earth he [Michael] would want around his children."
Randy says he had no idea the interview was going to take place and thinks his parents made a bad mistake.
http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/13/randy-jackson-oprah-winfrey-michael-jackson-joe-jackson-katherine-jackson-interview-molesation-trial-jury-deliberations/
With L.O.V.E. always.
Maybe I'm reaching here, but it stood out to me how every paragraph starts with the letter "R", making 5 R's. It seems deliberate and not a coincidence. So I googled 5 R's and found a few things. First is the Five Rights of Medication Administration (sometimes called the 5 R's) which are: Right Patient, Right Drug, Right Amount, Right Route, and Right Time. Right PATIENT stuck out to me as we've been discussing the possibility of someone else, perhaps a double, dying that day.
Or there's the 5 R's for the environment - Reduce, Reuse, Recycle, Renew, Respect. http://essentialkeystrokes.com/5-rs-for-a-greener-world/
Also found this website: http://www.rrrrthats5rs.com/ (http://www.rrrrthats5rs.com/)
Check out some of the names of the games on there, very interesting. For example, "Make the World a Better Place" and "The Road Less Taken"...
RRRRThats5Rs.com was created in early 2006 with the goal of satirizing and mocking online gaming, but has grown into a social experiment. The site's games are designed to be simple, frustrating and pointless to see how players will react to slight changes of expected gaming behavior.
Hmmm...
i am forever amazed at how things seem to go in one direction and suddenly someones switch will be flipped to go in another direction. it's a good thing ;)
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GoGoGo Mike!
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Red Rose - you are exactly right.
We always want to make Michael Jackson a one-dimensional person. This is brilliant. He's using the "akido" method...taking the enemy's sword and turning it back on them. Oprah can't resist a "story." Michael knows that. He's just using the family to play good cop and bad cop to expose the truth.OHHHHHHHHH! I NEVER want to be his enemy...or the Jackson family either!
This is a human game of chess with all his "enemies" as the players. How exciting!
Who is the REAL Michael Jackson? You're seeing it played out in front of your eyes...it's called justice.
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Randy Jackson is Noprah on Oprah
1. Noprah
When Oprah withdraws support for your book.
It can also mean when Oprah doesn't give or withdraws support for anything.
Etymology: Used on E! Channel's "The Soup" on March 3, 2006 in the "Hollywords" segment. It was in reference to Oprah's withdrawal of support for James Frey's memoir "A Million Little Pieces" after it was revealed that his story was grossly exaggerated and (in parts) fictional.
Getting the noprah automatically ruins your career as a writer.
No one crosses Oprah. No one!
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=noprah
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Randy Jackson is Noprah on Oprah
1. Noprah
When Oprah withdraws support for your book.
It can also mean when Oprah doesn't give or withdraws support for anything.
Etymology: Used on E! Channel's "The Soup" on March 3, 2006 in the "Hollywords" segment. It was in reference to Oprah's withdrawal of support for James Frey's memoir "A Million Little Pieces" after it was revealed that his story was grossly exaggerated and (in parts) fictional.
Getting the noprah automatically ruins your career as a writer.
No one crosses Oprah. No one!
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=noprah
Exactly! Trial by media of which Ms. Winfrey is a HUGE HUGE part. She has helped to form the beliefs of many many North Americans.
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Randy Jackson is Noprah on Oprah
1. Noprah
When Oprah withdraws support for your book.
It can also mean when Oprah doesn't give or withdraws support for anything.
Etymology: Used on E! Channel's "The Soup" on March 3, 2006 in the "Hollywords" segment. It was in reference to Oprah's withdrawal of support for James Frey's memoir "A Million Little Pieces" after it was revealed that his story was grossly exaggerated and (in parts) fictional.
Getting the noprah automatically ruins your career as a writer.
No one crosses Oprah. No one!
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=noprah
Well it appears Michael will do just that!! This game beats any of any sport that I've seen in a long time.
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A Million Little Pieces
A Million Little Pieces is a semi-fictional memoir by James Frey. It tells the story of a 23-year-old alcoholic and drug abuser and how he copes with rehabilitation in a Twelve Steps-oriented treatment center.
Controversy
After a six week long investigation, The Smoking Gun published an article on January 8, 2006 called "A Million Little Lies". The article described fabrications in Frey's account of his drug abuse experiences, life, and criminal record. According to CNN, The Smoking Gun's editor, William Bastone, said "the probe was prompted after the Oprah show aired". He further stated, "We initially set off to just find a mug shot of him... It basically set off a chain of events that started with us having a difficult time finding a booking photo of this guy". (where is Conrad Murray's mugshot?)
The Minneapolis Star Tribune had questioned James Frey's claims as early as 2003. Frey responded then by saying, "I've never denied I've altered small details."
Stories surfaced about Random House, publisher of A Million Little Pieces, deciding to give full refunds to anyone who had purchased the book directly through it. According to a Gawker.com report, customers could have a claim to money if they truly felt deceived by Frey. Speaking in March 2009, on City Talk to Trisha Goddard, it was stated less than 2,000 claimed a refund.
In an article detailing the book, Frey is quoted saying he "stands by the book as being the essential truth of my life". However, on January 26, 2006, Frey once again appeared on The Oprah Winfrey Show and this time admitted that the same "demons" that had made him turn to alcohol and drugs had also driven him to fabricate crucial portions of his "memoir"; it first having been shopped as being a fiction novel but declined by many, including Random House itself. Winfrey told Frey that she felt "really duped" but that, "more importantly, I feel that you betrayed millions of readers." She also apologized for her previous telephoned statement to Larry King Live — during Frey's appearance on that show on January 11, 2006 — that what mattered was not the truth of Frey's book, but its value as a therapeutic tool for addicts. She said, "I left the impression that the truth is not important." During the show Winfrey debated Frey about everything from the number of root canals he had to the existence of his girlfriend, Lilly. Winfrey then brought out Frey's publisher Nan Talese to defend her decision to classify the book as a memoir, and forced Talese to admit that she had done nothing to check the book's veracity, despite the fact that her representatives had assured Winfrey's staff that the book was indeed non-fiction and described it as "brutally honest" in a press release.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Million_Little_Pieces
The 5 R's of Journalism
Reading, 'Riting, 'Rithmitic - the 3Rs - was the way in which basic public school education was once described. The "5 Rs" is an easy way to remember the basic tenets of creative nonfiction/immersion journalism.
The First "R" - "Real life" or the "immersion" an aspect of the writing experience.
The Second "R" "Reflection". A writer's feelings and responses about a subject are permitted and encouraged, as long as what they think is written to embrace the reader in a variety of ways.
The Third "R"- "Research" which is to gather and present information, to teach readers about a person, place, idea or situation combining the creativity of the artistic experience with the essential research.
The Fourth "R" - "Reading" Not only must writers read the research material unearthed in the library, but they also must read the work of the masters of their profession.
The Fifth "R" - "Riting" (writing) part is the most artistic and romantic aspect of the total experience. After all of the preparatory (nonfiction) work is complete, writers will often "create" in two phases.
The first part of the experience for most writers is rather loose and spontaneous and therefore more "creative" and fun. The second part of the writing experience - the "craft" part, which comes into play after your basic essay is written - is equally important - and a hundred times more difficult.
http://www.creativenonfiction.org/thejournal/articles/issue06/06editor.htm
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Thanks Serenity! That's a good fit for the 5 R's as well.
And very interesting about that book.. I LOVED that book. And it reminds me of the quote in V for Vendetta - "Artists use lies to tell the truth". It doesn't matter what the truth is about that book, if it's not really a memoir but fiction, what matters is THE MESSAGE! Just like this hoax.
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Thanks Serenity! That's a good fit for the 5 R's as well.
And very interesting about that book.. I LOVED that book. And it reminds me of the quote in V for Vendetta - "Artists use lies to tell the truth". It doesn't matter what the truth is about that book, if it's not really a memoir but fiction, what matters is THE MESSAGE! Just like this hoax.
About the book, it does matter what the truth is and it was Oprah who said on LKL "that what mattered was not the truth of Frey's book, but its value as a therapeutic tool for addicts." This is a ridiculous statement in itself because it is based on a lie. Oprah later retracted her statement but the point is she didn't care what the "truth" was until people started to raise questions about this.
As a person in a position of power, within the media, whom many people "follow" and who is trying to influence people's thinking and promote ideas, Oprah has an obligation to present the truth and only the truth. She has not been doing that, she has an agenda and she presents things which reinforce that whether they are the truth or not. This is deception and manipulation. The question then arises what is Oprah's real agenda and why?
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Thanks Serenity! That's a good fit for the 5 R's as well.
And very interesting about that book.. I LOVED that book. And it reminds me of the quote in V for Vendetta - "Artists use lies to tell the truth". It doesn't matter what the truth is about that book, if it's not really a memoir but fiction, what matters is THE MESSAGE! Just like this hoax.
About the book, it does matter what the truth is and it was Oprah who said on LKL "that what mattered was not the truth of Frey's book, but its value as a therapeutic tool for addicts." This is a ridiculous statement in itself because it is based on a lie. Oprah later retracted her statement but the point is she didn't care what the "truth" was until people started to raise questions about this.
As a person in a position of power, within the media, whom many people "follow" and who is trying to influence people's thinking and promote ideas, Oprah has an obligation to present the truth and only the truth. She has not been doing that, she has an agenda and she presents things which reinforce that whether they are the truth or not. This is deception and manipulation. The question then arises what is Oprah's agenda and why?
I understand what you're saying about Oprah. I get that completely. But the reference to the book made me think of the hoax. That guy writing a book about something that didn't happen and calling it a memoir is pretty much the same thing as MJ faking his death, calling himself dead and making a feature film and calling it a "documentary". It's all in the name of truth, even if the actual events presented didn't actually happen. I actually don't think Oprah's statement was that ridiculous, because that's how I felt after reading the book and finding out it wasn't "real". I was a bit upset at first, but realized that I still loved the book just the same and learned a lot from it. Just like people may be upset at first with Michael for faking his death. And did Oprah know beforehand that it wasn't really a memoir? Perhaps not and perhaps she read the book and felt the same way about it as I do?
But I do agree that Oprah doesn't represent truth, her treatment towards MJ confirms that. Not to mention her new network is called OWN, which is NWO backwards. I find that a bit alarming in itself. What is her agenda, or WHO's agenda is she promoting? And does she ever realize she's doing it?
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Winfrey told Frey that she felt "really duped" but that, "more importantly, I feel that you betrayed millions of readers." She also apologized for her previous telephoned statement to Larry King Live — during Frey's appearance on that show on January 11, 2006 — that what mattered was not the truth of Frey's book, but its value as a therapeutic tool for addicts. She said, "I left the impression that the truth is not important."
What irony. What an expose on Oprah. What a true education we are receiving here. Thanks Michael! (and of course TMZ, TS and all members. :)
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Then again there are the Nines
If you go with the alphabet R is number 18 so 1+8=9
There are 5 R’s
9 times 5 = 45
4+5=9
i know i'm nuts lol
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This woman Oprah, it seems that unfortunately has much influence on public opinion in America. :?
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I love Randy. I really do, he's my second favorite Jackson. He has always been so sensible and kind. And I think he's right about the Oprah deal.
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This woman Oprah, it seems that unfortunately has much influence on public opinion in America. :?
This is absolutely right Paula! Oprah is an influential media person and it makes total sense that MJ may choose her for his "BAM" event:
-Oprah admits she was wrong ---> People will more readily make the connection with media lies
-Oprah has got large audiences and influence ---> MJ will want to connect to a large global audience
-Oprah is ending her shows in September 2011 ---> She will want to leave on a high
This article (in addition to the 5R's theories described by Jaci and Serenity - I personally like the Experiment one!) is also here to make sure that everybody remembers what Oprah did so that people can "simmer" about it for a while, then when Bam eventually comes, the effect is greater.
With L.O.V.E