Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: MJsForever on October 08, 2010, 01:39:08 AM
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Like everyone else here I do a lot of research on the web... I have found this site and the writer seems to know Michael. I usually don't believe this BS... but I think I might this time. He talks about Mike like a buddy and the things he says make a lot of sense. It has really got my attention. They are not bragging about knowing Michael, but simply looking for answers like the rest of us. Please let me know what you think????
Kat
http://themichaeljacksontruth-michaelja ... gspot.com/ (http://themichaeljacksontruth-michaeljackson.blogspot.com/)
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"...I have no magic bullet, I don’t know the answer, but I do KNOW something isn’t right!!!!!!!!
Mike was not using while preparing for this concert. He was looking forward to testing the waters to see if people were still interested in seeing him. I believe he feared the answer, although I don’t think he had anything to fear.
I do believe one thing…. If Mike is dead, He was murdered, and if he is alive, I don’t think he is coming back to the public eye….and if I did find out for sure he was alive, I would not tell a soul, because he has been through enough!!!"...
:cry: :cry:
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"He was fun and playful and full of life up until the trial, It change him." :cry:
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"...The truth is I believe there is a connection between AEG, Sony, and Colony Capital, and like most of you who would be reading this I am still searching for answers. Answers that need to be documented someplace. I don’t believe Dr. Murray is the only guilty party, and yes even if Michael is alive, these fools are still guilty. I believe they are still behind what happened to Michael…..and others that surrounded Michael in the end that have turned up dead."
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If the fans are going to come together to figure out what happened to Michael then we have to eliminate the crazy BS.
I truly believe if Michael was able to escape it was not for some show to entertain the world. He may barely have escaped with his life. He would not have made it a joke or left a million clues for everyone to find.
If someone was trying to kill him, he needed to make them believe he really was dead. If you were running for your life would you leave clues???? Hello??? Really????
Michael took this seriously enough to leave his children behind, and I can tell you the only way he would have done that is either he really is dead, or he believed they would be safer if they were not with him. Don’t you think if this is something he had planned for years he would have kept his children out of site from everyone? To protect them. He was obviously in danger. There are tapes of him begging for help and asking for money to escape. and I think there is a chance he could have escaped, but it’s not a joke, and it’s not some riddle that needs to be solved.
If Michael is alive, and I am not totally convinced, He is not going to return until the danger to him and his family is gone. The only way it is going to be gone is if someone figures out who either really killed him, or tried too. I don’t believe the officials in L.A care enough to be bothered to dig any further. I think as far as they are concerned it is Case Closed
It's always good to read from a new site. Thanks for posting. But even though this person seems to know MJ personally, he doesn't seem to really know Michael's thought life and dreams which are in his songs, videos, interviews, etc. No interest in numerology? What? He says people should stop the BS so MJ fans can unite. But one person's BS is another person's strong belief from hard evidence, and vica versa.
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Thanks for posting this....interesting reading this. It has a different perspective on the whole death and hoax thing...Cheers xoxox
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If the fans are going to come together to figure out what happened to Michael then we have to eliminate the crazy BS.
I truly believe if Michael was able to escape it was not for some show to entertain the world. He may barely have escaped with his life. He would not have made it a joke or left a million clues for everyone to find.
If someone was trying to kill him, he needed to make them believe he really was dead. If you were running for your life would you leave clues???? Hello??? Really????
Michael took this seriously enough to leave his children behind, and I can tell you the only way he would have done that is either he really is dead, or he believed they would be safer if they were not with him. Don’t you think if this is something he had planned for years he would have kept his children out of site from everyone? To protect them. He was obviously in danger. There are tapes of him begging for help and asking for money to escape. and I think there is a chance he could have escaped, but it’s not a joke, and it’s not some riddle that needs to be solved.
If Michael is alive, and I am not totally convinced, He is not going to return until the danger to him and his family is gone. The only way it is going to be gone is if someone figures out who either really killed him, or tried too. I don’t believe the officials in L.A care enough to be bothered to dig any further. I think as far as they are concerned it is Case Closed
It's always good to read from a new site. Thanks for posting. But even though this person seems to know MJ personally, he doesn't seem to really know Michael's thought life and dreams which are in his songs, videos, interviews, etc. No interest in numerology? What? He says people should stop the BS so MJ fans can unite. But one person's BS is another person's strong belief from hard evidence, and vica versa.
Exactly.
From http://themichaeljacksontruth-michaelja ... eople.html (http://themichaeljacksontruth-michaeljackson.blogspot.com/2010/10/crazzy-people.html):
Crazzy People
In researching the death of Michael Jackson I have found some truly crazy things on the internet.
I have seen numerology. Taking the numbers of Mike’s death, and trying to make them mean something. Michael would not have had more than a passing interest, if he had ever heard of it before.
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It's always good to read from a new site. Thanks for posting. But even though this person seems to know MJ personally, he doesn't seem to really know Michael's thought life and dreams which are in his songs, videos, interviews, etc. No interest in numerology? What? He says people should stop the BS so MJ fans can unite. But one person's BS is another person's strong belief from hard evidence, and vica versa.
My God, it's just a personal opinion. Again, I do not think it is our right to pre-judge or reject people for having different opinions. He seems to say that though he was your friend but do not him deeply. Are their statements about what he experienced and witnessed with Michael, too, for him to have an idea what may have happened. They had contacts on a regular basis, but almost always at a distance, and the last in 2007. It seems he's as anxious as we to seek the truth and it is exactly that! IMO
Please let us be more tolerant and more cautious in interpreting the words and the context in general! This kind of behavior makes me so sad, the disunity of the people around a single thought and desire: to seek the truth! :shock: :(
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it is interesting to me that the person keeps using this keep watching that some of you have refer to this back person using only back seems to be confident that michael is in charge (is that correct?) and this person suggest he might well be dead.
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Thank you for this thread.
It does make a lot of sense. This person seems geniuine.
I accept Michael for all that he is. It just feels that this person knows a little about that.
I'm still reading the blog and have to go to work, but I'll come back to it.
From what I've read so far, the following stands out as I also
believe this is where we get to the bottom of everything.
I've commented in other threads related to this although
those threads don't ever seem to pick up sustained interest for some
reason...
"Jermaine (angry brother) introduced Michael to Dr. Tohme.
Dr. Tohme introduced Michael to Tom Barrack of Colony Capital, and he is also a neighbor of Neverland Ranch, who after paying the mortgage at Neverland, and partnering with Michael, introduced Michael to Philip Anschutz owner of AEG….Tohme then gets Michael to allow him to negotiate deals for him, and who does he go to? None other than Philip Anschutz… see a pattern?
Here is another tid-bit.. Tom Barrack and his partner William Bone, own a company called Sunrise Capital…Can you guess?
Sunrise Capital owns the mortgage on Conrad Murray’s soon to be foreclosed house...
Now look at Rob Lowe… Yes Rob Lowe. Actor.. sex symbol, West Wing… That Rob Lowe.
Are you ready for this? He is the founder of the “Homeowners defense fund in Santa Barbra County!
And now he is hooking up with….you guessed it….Tom Barrack. They did an interview last week from Neverland Ranch!!! Do you think Mr. Lowe could influence the residents of St. Olivos, maybe to persuade them to allow Barrack to use Neverland ranch as something other than what it is?
What other projects have Barrack been involved with lately and lets look at how its going. Can you say Xanadu….
Here take a look:
http://visitmeadowlands.com/thingstodo/ (http://visitmeadowlands.com/thingstodo/)
Look familiar? It looks like Michael Jackson’s Neverland on steroids!!!!!!!!!
….one more thing, 5 days after Michael’s death there is 32,000 lbs of concrete delivered to Neverland….Odd, I don’t know, that’s a lot of sidewalk repair… don’t you think
http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/30/concrete- ... neverland/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/30/concrete-evidence-found-at-neverland/)
So while the world is watching John Branca, and Frank DiLeo, and Sonny…. The truth may be as close as Neverland….Keep Watching
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If the fans are going to come together to figure out what happened to Michael then we have to eliminate the crazy BS.
I truly believe if Michael was able to escape it was not for some show to entertain the world. He may barely have escaped with his life. He would not have made it a joke or left a million clues for everyone to find.
If someone was trying to kill him, he needed to make them believe he really was dead. If you were running for your life would you leave clues???? Hello??? Really????
Michael took this seriously enough to leave his children behind, and I can tell you the only way he would have done that is either he really is dead, or he believed they would be safer if they were not with him. Don’t you think if this is something he had planned for years he would have kept his children out of site from everyone? To protect them. He was obviously in danger. There are tapes of him begging for help and asking for money to escape. and I think there is a chance he could have escaped, but it’s not a joke, and it’s not some riddle that needs to be solved.
If Michael is alive, and I am not totally convinced, He is not going to return until the danger to him and his family is gone. The only way it is going to be gone is if someone figures out who either really killed him, or tried too. I don’t believe the officials in L.A care enough to be bothered to dig any further. I think as far as they are concerned it is Case Closed
It's always good to read from a new site. Thanks for posting. But even though this person seems to know MJ personally, he doesn't seem to really know Michael's thought life and dreams which are in his songs, videos, interviews, etc. No interest in numerology? What? He says people should stop the BS so MJ fans can unite. But one person's BS is another person's strong belief from hard evidence, and vica versa.
Exactly.
From http://themichaeljacksontruth-michaelja ... eople.html (http://themichaeljacksontruth-michaeljackson.blogspot.com/2010/10/crazzy-people.html):
Crazzy People
In researching the death of Michael Jackson I have found some truly crazy things on the internet.
I have seen numerology. Taking the numbers of Mike’s death, and trying to make them mean something. Michael would not have had more than a passing interest, if he had ever heard of it before.
Hahahahaha... oh really?!?!
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If the fans are going to come together to figure out what happened to Michael then we have to eliminate the crazy BS.
I truly believe if Michael was able to escape it was not for some show to entertain the world. He may barely have escaped with his life. He would not have made it a joke or left a million clues for everyone to find.
If someone was trying to kill him, he needed to make them believe he really was dead. If you were running for your life would you leave clues???? Hello??? Really????
Michael took this seriously enough to leave his children behind, and I can tell you the only way he would have done that is either he really is dead, or he believed they would be safer if they were not with him. Don’t you think if this is something he had planned for years he would have kept his children out of site from everyone? To protect them. He was obviously in danger. There are tapes of him begging for help and asking for money to escape. and I think there is a chance he could have escaped, but it’s not a joke, and it’s not some riddle that needs to be solved.
If Michael is alive, and I am not totally convinced, He is not going to return until the danger to him and his family is gone. The only way it is going to be gone is if someone figures out who either really killed him, or tried too. I don’t believe the officials in L.A care enough to be bothered to dig any further. I think as far as they are concerned it is Case Closed
It's always good to read from a new site. Thanks for posting. But even though this person seems to know MJ personally, he doesn't seem to really know Michael's thought life and dreams which are in his songs, videos, interviews, etc. No interest in numerology? What? He says people should stop the BS so MJ fans can unite. But one person's BS is another person's strong belief from hard evidence, and vica versa.
Exactly.
From http://themichaeljacksontruth-michaelja ... eople.html (http://themichaeljacksontruth-michaeljackson.blogspot.com/2010/10/crazzy-people.html):
Crazzy People
In researching the death of Michael Jackson I have found some truly crazy things on the internet.
I have seen numerology. Taking the numbers of Mike’s death, and trying to make them mean something. Michael would not have had more than a passing interest, if he had ever heard of it before.
Sounds like callofthewild, dont you think? ;)
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If the fans are going to come together to figure out what happened to Michael then we have to eliminate the crazy BS.
I truly believe if Michael was able to escape it was not for some show to entertain the world. He may barely have escaped with his life. He would not have made it a joke or left a million clues for everyone to find.
If someone was trying to kill him, he needed to make them believe he really was dead. If you were running for your life would you leave clues???? Hello??? Really????
Michael took this seriously enough to leave his children behind, and I can tell you the only way he would have done that is either he really is dead, or he believed they would be safer if they were not with him. Don’t you think if this is something he had planned for years he would have kept his children out of site from everyone? To protect them. He was obviously in danger. There are tapes of him begging for help and asking for money to escape. and I think there is a chance he could have escaped, but it’s not a joke, and it’s not some riddle that needs to be solved.
If Michael is alive, and I am not totally convinced, He is not going to return until the danger to him and his family is gone. The only way it is going to be gone is if someone figures out who either really killed him, or tried too. I don’t believe the officials in L.A care enough to be bothered to dig any further. I think as far as they are concerned it is Case Closed
It's always good to read from a new site. Thanks for posting. But even though this person seems to know MJ personally, he doesn't seem to really know Michael's thought life and dreams which are in his songs, videos, interviews, etc. No interest in numerology? What? He says people should stop the BS so MJ fans can unite. But one person's BS is another person's strong belief from hard evidence, and vica versa.
Exactly.
From http://themichaeljacksontruth-michaelja ... eople.html (http://themichaeljacksontruth-michaeljackson.blogspot.com/2010/10/crazzy-people.html):
Crazzy People
In researching the death of Michael Jackson I have found some truly crazy things on the internet.
I have seen numerology. Taking the numbers of Mike’s death, and trying to make them mean something. Michael would not have had more than a passing interest, if he had ever heard of it before.
Sounds like callofthewild, dont you think? ;)
YES!
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thx for sharing, i don't know about the credibility of this blog and the user, but i agree with him on one thing- if Michael hoaxed his death, he did it for a serious reason, it means that his and his kids' lives might have been in danger, he had to do it, he didnt do it for fame or for playing games.But I dont agree with him one one point- he says that if MJ's life was in danger and he had to hoax his death to save his kids, he would not have left so many clues for his fans, well, that person forgot that Michael loved dearly all his fans and wanted them to know the truth, not to be heartbroken thinking that he is dead, he cared for them, besides only 10% of his fans around the world think that he might be alive, others are 100% sure that he is dead and was killed, they ignore all the clues showing that he is alive and call them "dellusional and disrespectful".So nothing to worry about
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"Jermaine (angry brother) introduced Michael to Dr. Tohme.
Dr. Tohme introduced Michael to Tom Barrack of Colony Capital, and he is also a neighbor of Neverland Ranch, who after paying the mortgage at Neverland, and partnering with Michael, introduced Michael to Philip Anschutz owner of AEG….Tohme then gets Michael to allow him to negotiate deals for him, and who does he go to? None other than Philip Anschutz… see a pattern?
If I wanted to see the pattern, but Tohme baffles me. Here it seems that this person would relate to Jermaine to the "death" of Michael, sorry but in this case would have to be involved the whole family.
Correct me if I'm wrong but when he says that TMZ was first to announce the "death" of Michael and Jermaine made the announcement to the world, is this person making accomplice to TMZ and Jermaine something?
I think the sige to TMZ, this connecting the dots and follow the money trail, and has no doubt that Michael is dead.
I think I should read all the post of TS and stop calling us "crazy people"
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stop calling us "crazy people"
I always think about this song as the answer to them :) with love :)
[youtube:h0wg3wdo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd2B6SjMh_w[/youtube:h0wg3wdo]
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Obviously if this person knew Michael than he might just have some inside information, although he does not seem to KNOW about the hoax, he knows something is not right. He is not 100% sure Mike is alive but, it is possible. They may know others that knew Mike, He says that he meet Mike through other people. Its enough for me that someone that knew Mike is suspicious, I wonder if they went to the memorial or funeral? To me it would be something concrete if they did and still believe Mike could be alive.
Either way, someone on the inside may know better than the average person on who to ask the right questions too, and even to get the right answers. He said that Mike was looking at real estate? I wonder where? I wonder if Mike bought real estate in 2007? Is there a way to find out?
I think its worth keeping a close eye on to see where they go...
Kat
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All this confirms to me that the inner circle of who knows most everything in the hoax is small--limited only to those Michael implicitly trusts. The rest is guided implosion! 8-) :lol:
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My intuitions tells me that he is alive and well, maybe some of you do not believe in intuitions, but I have them and this is a gift from God. What I feel as we all know Michael did not want to do the concerts, he put his emphasisum to produce movies. I feel he is not in any danger, he only wanted out. He was forced to do these 50 concerts because he was in debt. Why did he die just before his concerts? I find it ironic. The most logical thing for him to do was to hoax his death, and give out signs that he was in danger, so he can fool all of us. If he was in real danger he would have gone under witness protection and take his children with him.He would have never left his children behind,he loves them. He is with the children, he probably lives with them as we speak, in disguise. We probably never know the real story behind this hoax, until Michael comes out and tell us (fans) what really happened on June 25/2009..Until then we can still continue investigate, but what ever clues we find, we can't be 100% sure of it. I have lots of faith that he is with us alive and well. Mind you he can be next to you, in a store you may never know, with all the diguises he has.. :lol: blessings to all ..
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Truth or Consequences....
Michael Joseph Jackson is/was an amazing human being. He had the mind of a genius and the heart of an innocent child. He could be ruthless in business. When he made up his mind about something he seldom changed it, no matter what the consequences were. Mike lived his entire life in the spot light. Everything he did, for the most part, was watched and scrutinized by the world. He had a rough childhood, with an abusive father, but he also had a lot of wonderful things in his life. He had his mother, whom he dearly loved and his children.
Growing up this way I think Mike had a sense of entitlement that most don’t understand. All of his life, he simply was Michael Jackson. That gave him special honors and privileges that most never see. I think people in high positions had a problem with a black man holding the power that he did. Michael Jackson himself was a huge corporation, recording studios, music, concerts, books, real estate; he was half owner of Sony/ATV, and much more.
In doing research I have found that many groups wanted to align themselves with him. Most were rejected for one reason or another.
I think Mike was being manipulated throughout most of his life. I believe sometimes he made choices that seemed like it was the lesser of two evils, and sometimes he was wrong and paid the price.
I have come to believe either Michael was the most unlucky clumsiest person that walked the earth or he was being controlled and punished by others. The first seems highly unlikely
I think Michaels problems probably started with the Thriller album. Mike fell and broke his nose so badly that he had to have reconstructive surgery.
Then there is the Pepsi accident. He was burned pretty badly. I think this was the first attempt to make Michael Jackson do something he really didn’t want to do. It was his punishment for not doing something…
Or doing something that someone felt he should not be doing.
There were several accidents during the Dangerous Tours, while recording a sound wall fell on him, later during the rehearsals for the tour he fell off stage. Then there are the accusations in 1993. Is this just more of Michael being coerced.
In 1999 Michael had a very serous fall when a bridge used during the earth song collapses. Michael is dropped 27 feet. He is later rushed to the hospital.
In 2005 during the trial for child molestation, Michael is late for court. He was in a hospital because he fell. He had to sit in court suffering from his injuries.
I have often ask myself why he would have agreed to the Martian Brasher interview, and why he appeared different than I had known him to be. Michael was not the type to make stupid PR blunders like that. Michael hated doing interviews, and to be honest there is something not right about the entire thing. I spoke to someone yesterday that was very close to Michael he advised me to compare that interview and how Michael sounded with this interview. He seems totally different although they were taken just a few months of each other. Really???? Is this the same man?
http://themichaeljacksontruth-michaelja ... gspot.com/ (http://themichaeljacksontruth-michaeljackson.blogspot.com/)
[youtube:8pk8o1nt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6IzRz1pD6M&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:8pk8o1nt]
[youtube:8pk8o1nt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_AiWUtPvA8&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:8pk8o1nt]
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My intuitions tells me that he is alive and well, maybe some of you do not believe in intuitions, but I have them and this is a gift from God. What I feel as we all know Michael did not want to do the concerts, he put his emphasisum to produce movies. I feel he is not in any danger, he only wanted out. He was forced to do these 50 concerts because he was in debt. Why did he die just before his concerts? I find it ironic. The most logical thing for him to do was to hoax his death, and give out signs that he was in danger, so he can fool all of us. If he was in real danger he would have gone under witness protection and take his children with him.He would have never left his children behind,he loves them. He is with the children, he probably lives with them as we speak, in disguise. We probably never know the real story behind this hoax, until Michael comes out and tell us (fans) what really happened on June 25/2009..Until then we can still continue investigate, but what ever clues we find, we can't be 100% sure of it. I have lots of faith that he is with us alive and well. Mind you he can be next to you, in a store you may never know, with all the diguises he has.. :lol: blessings to all ..
I appreciate your post, all4love... Faith is important now. Thanks. (i'm blowing you a kiss)
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could tis be michael :?:
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I didn't realize the two interviews were taken so close together.
What makes you ask the question if it could be Michael? I never thought of that? I re-read it and still don't know what to think. However it does feel like we are being led. Its a cool blog anyway
Kathy
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My intuitions tells me that he is alive and well, maybe some of you do not believe in intuitions, but I have them and this is a gift from God. What I feel as we all know Michael did not want to do the concerts, he put his emphasisum to produce movies. I feel he is not in any danger, he only wanted out. He was forced to do these 50 concerts because he was in debt. Why did he die just before his concerts? I find it ironic. The most logical thing for him to do was to hoax his death, and give out signs that he was in danger, so he can fool all of us. If he was in real danger he would have gone under witness protection and take his children with him.He would have never left his children behind,he loves them. He is with the children, he probably lives with them as we speak, in disguise. We probably never know the real story behind this hoax, until Michael comes out and tell us (fans) what really happened on June 25/2009..Until then we can still continue investigate, but what ever clues we find, we can't be 100% sure of it. I have lots of faith that he is with us alive and well. Mind you he can be next to you, in a store you may never know, with all the diguises he has.. :lol: blessings to all ..
I appreciate your post, all4love... Faith is important now. Thanks. (i'm blowing you a kiss)
Thank you soldier of love, for the lovely kiss.I sendyou one back. Yes faith is important in every aspect of our lives. Not only for michael but for us also. I saw the videos, on the first one i see Michael very happy narrating the story of his childhood with his brothers, but when It came to the second video i saw it in his eyes he was so sad, I feel it he did not want to do that interview. ONe thing did you see how fast he climbed that tree? He is a monkey :lol: (figure of speech)
It is Michael on the 2 videos. I saw his nails on the second video they are stained. This is the only way I can be sure it is Michael :lol:
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Did anyone notice the Donny Osmond Link on this page? Could it be that he is in on this too? Its an interesting story about the bus and MJ in Arizonia? Could this be his page? He was friends with Mike, What do you all think?