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Title: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoax
Post by: whosbadmjsbad on October 04, 2010, 06:34:30 PM
WATCH THIS-- THIS PROVES THAT ALL THE TMZ ARTICLES RELATE DIRECTLY TO BIBLE VERSES..AMAZING DISCOVERY....MICHAEL ALWAYS SAID--- JUST BECAUSE ITS IN PRINT DOESNT MEAN ITS THE GOSPEL...WELLL GUESS WHAT!! MANY ARE READING TMZ LIKE ITS THE GOSPEL!

WATCH THIS

[youtube:10vzrvhj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgZd_243ZjA[/youtube:10vzrvhj]

BTW- NEW TMZ ARTICLE TODAY RELATES TO JOSHUA 10/4. GUESS WHAT TODAY IS?? 10/4/2010

CRAZY RIGHT??
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: ~Souza~ on October 04, 2010, 06:38:43 PM
I think this was posted already, and can you please push CapsLock before you type again?

I wonder if it really is Joshua 10:4 by the way. i saw one earlier that seemed to fit better.
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: whosbadmjsbad on October 04, 2010, 06:40:11 PM
which one did u see that fit better?
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: ~Souza~ on October 04, 2010, 06:44:38 PM
I can't remember, I'll search for it later. I need some sleep first.
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: jenwren20 on October 04, 2010, 06:47:54 PM
Proverb 10:4 Lazy hands make a man poor (relates to Jerm) :lol:
Ezra 10:4 Rise up; this matter is in your hands. We will support you, so take courage and do it."
Romans 10:4 (king James version) For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth
10:4 Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him.


Take your pick, really.
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: Loes on October 04, 2010, 06:56:12 PM
WAUW, to much to be coincidents.
 I needed this!

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: ~Souza~ on October 04, 2010, 06:56:47 PM
Quote from: "whosbadmjsbad"
which one did u see that fit better?

Okay, found it already.


With that I am only looking at the title, because the title really doesn't fit the article. It is a command, but for what?[/color]
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: heisinme09 on October 04, 2010, 07:00:18 PM
This video is simply amazing! If you will notice, the first TMZ article that is referenced has a date of 7/1/09.....hmmmm.....if you count from 6/25/09 to 7/1/009, all inclusive, it is SEVEN days....perhaps this is exactly what MJ was referring to at the O2 Announcement...."See You in July!"

The Gospel According to St. Michael! YESSSS!!!!!
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: trustno1 on October 04, 2010, 07:31:54 PM
Wow is all I can say. I'm not usually one to believe in religous signs but maybe another way to look at it is TMZ is either something MJ created for the hoax purpose to illustrate the media worship and the willingness to believe whatever is written by the general public, or that someone at TMZ is working for MJ and is directing all these articles and the dates to see if we are paying attention. I'm sure others have thought of this already but I'm new here so forgive me if I am just regurgitating old theories!TMZ seem linked to it all one way or another.  Nothing would surprise me with MJ which is a good thing!
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: Adi on October 04, 2010, 07:40:24 PM
I think this is a most brilliant video by SeeingClues.

This sort of slipped us all by. I know TMZ is integral to MJ's plan as TS has discussed mant times....just didn't see this aspect of it until SeeingClues pointed it out.

 :)
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: mjjveritas on October 04, 2010, 08:15:55 PM
I'll watch the video tomorrow when I have a saner and clearer head. MJ's wish is my command!
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: bec on October 04, 2010, 09:07:06 PM
Lol, THIS is the best proof of a hoax?

Oh I think not.

Picking from thousands of available bible verses COULD BE a strong coincidence.

TS has shown us much better stuff. SC's video is good, but it doesn't beat TS.... except of course it's delivery dumbs down better.

Sorry but it's the truth.
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: SeeingClues on October 04, 2010, 09:26:35 PM
Quote from: "bec"
Lol, THIS is the best proof of a hoax?

Oh I think not.

Picking from thousands of available bible verses COULD BE a strong coincidence.

TS has shown us much better stuff. SC's video is good, but it doesn't beat TS.... except of course it's delivery dumbs down better.

Sorry but it's the truth.

Hello dear bec,
My intent was not to "compete" or "beat" anyone with my video.  We are all in this together as a team investigating to find the truth and trying to discover and analyze the oddities and interesting "coincidences" in this investigation.  I have a high level of respect to all who have devoted their time and energy in the search for the truth.  We could not do this alone.

Much love always to all.

And thank you to all of you who have written kind comments on the video.
Your friend,
SC
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: RK on October 04, 2010, 09:38:44 PM
I'm all in favour of dumbing it down. I'm not ashamed to admit I can use all the help I can get.
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: MJs Tinkerbell on October 04, 2010, 09:43:21 PM
John 10

The Shepherd and His Flock

 1"I tell you the truth, the man who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. 2The man who enters by the gate is the shepherd of his sheep. 3The watchman opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. 5But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger's voice."


Jermaine performed a series of Michael Jackson's classics to a packed house at the concert hall at the Planet Hollywood Resort.

To follow Jermaine, or Run from Jermaine,  that is the question.  LOL
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: 2good2btrue on October 04, 2010, 09:46:25 PM
Seeingclues, do you think the latest TMZ article, could suggest the 10 Commandments??

Jermaine Commands Michael Jackson Army
10/4/2010 5:20 AM PDT by TMZ Staff
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: BeTheChange on October 04, 2010, 09:47:08 PM
@SeeingClues...

Thank you for creating this video.  The amount of time and dedication this project involved is quite apparent and very appreciated.  You have provided abundant proof as to TMZ's prominent role in the hoax, for any that were still unsure.  Keep up the great work!

With L.O.V.E. always.
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: SeeingClues on October 04, 2010, 09:59:24 PM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
Seeingclues, do you think the latest TMZ article, could suggest the 10 Commandments??

Jermaine Commands Michael Jackson Army
10/4/2010 5:20 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

Hello 2good2btrue,
Interesting observation as "Commands" could allude to the Commandments.  What I find interesting is how a few of the 10:4 verses could apply here as they relate to be commanded or led by a voice, a leader.

In the end, it was a very interesting article title to put out today.  ;)

SC
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: 2good2btrue on October 04, 2010, 10:23:38 PM
Then, TMZ have confirmed your theory....because the title has nothing to do with the content.     So, if I know TMZ well enough by now, this is just another clue to confirm your theory in on the right path..!!!!   Well done Seeingclues...xoxoxo  

And we must follow the 10 commandments as well  
:lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: bec on October 04, 2010, 10:25:56 PM
Quote from: "SeeingClues"
Quote from: "bec"
Lol, THIS is the best proof of a hoax?

Oh I think not.

Picking from thousands of available bible verses COULD BE a strong coincidence.

TS has shown us much better stuff. SC's video is good, but it doesn't beat TS.... except of course it's delivery dumbs down better.

Sorry but it's the truth.

Hello dear bec,
My intent was not to "compete" or "beat" anyone with my video.  We are all in this together as a team investigating to find the truth and trying to discover and analyze the oddities and interesting "coincidences" in this investigation.  I have a high level of respect to all who have devoted their time and energy in the search for the truth.  We could not do this alone.

Much love always to all.

And thank you to all of you who have written kind comments on the video.
Your friend,
SC

I know that. It's a figure of speech darling. Most love to you, dear SC.
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: RK on October 04, 2010, 10:42:43 PM
This brings to mind the new commandment...John13:34
A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
35. By this all men will know you are my disciples, if you love one another.
Makes me think of BlackJacks post on Re-Education about the fans "demonstrating "that  CHANGE and honouring Him for all ther right reasons.
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: 2good2btrue on October 04, 2010, 10:43:19 PM
Romans 10:4  Now this is a real classic co-incidence.. ;)

"The word "end" (telos) means "end" or "termination."   Murray's comments are to the point:

It needs to be noted that a qualification is added:  "to every one that believeth."  This qualification implies that only for the believer is Christ the end of the law for righteousness. [Unbelievers, as seen in verse 3, are still very busy pursuing the law for righteousness, even though this method will never work. For them the law has not terminated because they are still trusting in it for their righteousness.]  It is, Paul says, for every one who believes that Christ is the end of the law, and his whole statement is simply to the effect that every believer is done with the law as a way of attaining to righteousness [material in brackets and emphasis added]--(Epistle to the Romans, p.50).

The law demands perfect righteousness which of myself I could never achieve or obtain. When I received the Lord Jesus Christ as my Saviour, I was given in Christ all of the righteousness that God will ever require of me.  I have found what I have needed, not by the law, but in Jesus Christ.  He is my righteousness!


So we believers, are doing things the right way......the non-believers are still fighting with the law and fighting for justice.. :D  :D  :D


http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/ro ... mans10.htm (http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/romans/romans10.htm)
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: ER911 on October 04, 2010, 10:44:42 PM
Quote from: "SeeingClues"
Quote from: "bec"
Lol, THIS is the best proof of a hoax?

Oh I think not.

Picking from thousands of available bible verses COULD BE a strong coincidence.

TS has shown us much better stuff. SC's video is good, but it doesn't beat TS.... except of course it's delivery dumbs down better.

Sorry but it's the truth.

Hello dear bec,
My intent was not to "compete" or "beat" anyone with my video.  We are all in this together as a team investigating to find the truth and trying to discover and analyze the oddities and interesting "coincidences" in this investigation.  I have a high level of respect to all who have devoted their time and energy in the search for the truth.  We could not do this alone.

Much love always to all.

And thank you to all of you who have written kind comments on the video.
Your friend,
SC

Amen Amen! Kudos SC ! I found it to be very well done.  I'm pleased you are continuing forward.
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: bec on October 04, 2010, 11:13:46 PM
You know, I just wanted to elaborate on my first post. The video poses an interesting theory. It is good research and certainly startling and thought provoking. However, I didn't realize initially, being an atheist, that there are dozens of books in the bible, all of which have an entry that correspond with a mo-day date format. Interestingly enough, this video by SC caused me to look into it. After learning this about the bible, I concluded that coincidence could explain much, if not all, of this TMZ article date-bible passage connection.

I'm not good at measuring laws of chance mathematically, but it seems you have a pretty good chance, considering the magnitude of MJ related articles that TMZ has published in the last year, and the number of books in the bible with passages to chose from, that one could find a passage to correspond with several MJ related TMZ headlines over the last 15 months.

But all that aside, I was poking at the OP for titling the thread what they did. You also probably sense some sarcasm stemming from those who write TS off as fake stating his proof is "coincidental" seem to be the first to get excited about significantly sexier (presentation friendly) but vague in substance clues. I'm sorry to use the thread about SC's video as an example but it's as good as any.

I am aware that SC made no claims as to the content of the video, only posting it on the blog for conversation starter and consideration. SC's work is good and legitimate and I'm glad to be on the same team. We are all in this together which is why open dialogue with the hoax community is so important. We can help each other keep it real. I'm glad you shared this with us SC, I always enjoy your work.
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: GramsGirl63 on October 04, 2010, 11:27:30 PM


I just loved this video...Thank you SC's you are obviously very intelligent, and your video gave me a renewed hope. :)
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: robd on October 05, 2010, 06:56:01 AM
Just wow, no way can all those dates and titles be pure coincidence - no way! This appears to be shaping up to be the greatest and smartest hoax EVER, between this and the TII insider, I feel we may be on the countdown to the big resurrection, the reveal, the comeback to end all comebacks ...... BAM!!!
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: MashMike on October 05, 2010, 06:56:11 AM
I have already watched this video on facebook, what can i say? awesome, amazing video, i'm speechless.
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: MJs Tinkerbell on October 05, 2010, 08:00:49 AM
I do beLIEve Souza hit the nail on the head!  TS=Jermaine   Commander of the L.O.V.E Army.
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: squall-lionheart on October 05, 2010, 09:49:33 AM
*
ok ,,
I will try to put some of the pieces together from my point of view and see if we can make it more understandable to us .
here we go :

7-5
THE FACES MAY CHANGE .....!!!!
TMZ 5-7
THE MANY FACES OF MICHAEL JACKSON !!
(http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2010/05/11/article-1273566783133-098595D3000005DC-905569_636x389.jpg)
8-2
LIFE DELIVER GIFTS IF U TAKE NOTISE !!
TMZ 2-8
JACKSON CASE :BEWARE UPS MEN BEARING GIFTS !!
(http://www.wherelightmeetsdark.com/images/newswatch/michael_jackson_ghost_hoax_exposed.jpg)
9-11
ARE WE AWARE OF HOW WE VALUE OTHERS LIVES ?
TMZ 11-9
DR MURRAY : PLEAS HOLD ... MJ IS DYING !!
(http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/cryingAP_450x279.jpg)
11-24
ENDURE WHEN PEOPLE TRY TO BEAT YOU DOWN !!
TMZ 24-11
PHOTOG : MJ FANS BEAT ME !!
(http://reason.com/assets/mc/jwalker/2010_04/believe.jpg)
12-8
WE ARE RESPONSIPLE FOR THE HOUSE WE KEEP !!
TMZ 8-12
MJ WAS A HOME WORKER !!
[youtube:1tj0c14a]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1niyJ9-WYA[/youtube:1tj0c14a]
2-3
A VISION OF LOVE AND PEACE IS WORTH WATING FOR !!
TMZ 3-2
CM : WATING FOR THE CALL !!
(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/profile-ak-snc4/object2/1766/7/n307907574122_5013.jpg)
2-24
WHAT YOU HEAR MAY BE FALSE !!
TMZ 24-2
FIRE OFFICIALS: MJ EMERGENCY TAPES IS BOGUS !!
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/2009/06/custom_1246046959484_0626_audio_launch_mj_ex.jpg)
4-5
ONLY THE FOOLS BELIEVES YOU HAVE TO KILL THE BODY TO KILL THE PAST !!
TMZ 5-4
D.CMs DEFENSE : JACKSON KILLED HIMSELF !!
(http://images.starpulse.com/news/media/Michael-Jackson-OK-cover.jpg)
4-6
KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN !!
TMZ 6-4
MICHAEL JACKSON : THE EYES HAVE IT !!
(http://deathby1000papercuts.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/mj06jermaine_579736a-300x223.jpg)
(http://www.flyclothing.com/images/D/toku-021-01-01.jpg)
WHOOOOOOOO !!!!!
(http://saynsumthn.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/shocked.jpg)
If u follow it one by one u will see that it fits just perfectly with the hoax .  :idea:
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: whisper on October 05, 2010, 11:22:58 AM
SC incredible as always!
This is amazing. Do you know what this means? We can predict upcoming stories from tmz. Those who are familiar with the bible.
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: sprint911 on October 05, 2010, 12:13:19 PM
Quote from: "whisper"
SC incredible as always!
This is amazing. Do you know what this means? We can predict upcoming stories from tmz. Those who are familiar with the bible.
And we can predict bam?? :shock:
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: bec on October 05, 2010, 12:16:26 PM
Quote from: "whisper"
SC incredible as always!
This is amazing. Do you know what this means? We can predict upcoming stories from tmz. Those who are familiar with the bible.

Not so fast.

Which book are we going to pull from?
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: whisper on October 05, 2010, 12:57:24 PM
Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "whisper"
SC incredible as always!
This is amazing. Do you know what this means? We can predict upcoming stories from tmz. Those who are familiar with the bible.

Not so fast.

Which book are we going to pull from?

I have no idea, lol.
I don't follow the bible. If anyone here can give it a try with what they go by.
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: MissG on October 05, 2010, 01:12:43 PM
Quote from: squall-lionheart
/mj06jermaine_579736a-300x223.jpg[/img]
(http://www.flyclothing.com/images/D/toku-021-01-01.jpg)

The name Toku means virtuous. Have we been discussing that?
A virtue is a trait or quality deemed to be morally excellent and thus is valued as a foundation of principle and good moral being....
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: paula-c on October 05, 2010, 02:49:33 PM
Excellent video SeeingClues as comment when I first saw it, I never imagined that the dates of the articles of TMZ would have something to do with these messages from the Bible. If Serenitys_Dream published the video too, here is the link;

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=14516 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=14516)
Title: Re: Seeing Clues new video- Best proof proving this is a hoa
Post by: curls on October 05, 2010, 03:35:55 PM
I have lots to catch up on - my internet access has been very dodgy the past few days. First job would appear to be dusting off my bible and taking a look inside!  Very interesting video SeeingClues!
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