Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => Hoax Pictures => Topic started by: koulio02 on September 20, 2010, 03:16:20 PM
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Arno Bani reveals another shot of Michael Jackson unpublished
A few months before the auction of Michael Jackson's unpublished pictures taken by Arno Bani, the mystery remains very much on the exact nature of these photos. The secret is to those who are jealously guarded to stir the curiosity of fans, the lust of collectors and interest of observers. Until October 20, the date of publication of catalogs selling (already available for pre-order on the event website created by Pierre Bergé & Associés), Arno Bani has released a photo of Michael Jackson back ...
To see the King of Pop from another angle, you have to wait until October 8, when another shot book that will be unveiled on the tabloid blog PerezHilton.com. A choice of a taste at least questionable because if Perez Hilton Site collects traffic high (more than 5 million monthly visitors), it has also created a scandal for having laughed - a bit too fast - on cardiac arrest of Michael Jackson and his vitriolic posts written about the artist.
Finally, note that the photographs of Arno Bani will be exposed to the public on 11 and 12 December from 11am to 22h and December 13th from 11am to 15h. The sale will begin on 13 to 20h at the Hôtel Salomon de Rothschild
sorry for my bad english
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Interesting..I wonder what he is sitting out in front of?
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Looks like if he is watching the earth from the outer space :?
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Looks like if he is watching the earth from the outer space :?
Maybe watching the greatest show on earth? ;)
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i see a shadow face in the back of the golden coat he is wearing... :?
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I think he is sitting? the gold cape is part of the back of a chair?
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I think he is sitting? the gold cape is part of the back of a chair?
That's what I think. Sitting and observing. I really feel like these photos are recent.
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i see a shadow face in the back of the golden coat he is wearing... :?
it reminds me of this ;)
(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/7-brilliant-movie-parties-06-421-75.jpg)
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i see a shadow face in the back of the golden coat he is wearing... :?
looks like captain hook :lol:
i need my jacket now please :?
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To me it looks like he's sitting on his thrown ( KING of pop right) watching at the red curtain...and feeling on top of the world :D
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The Byble talks about the "Chair of Mercy", a golden chair on top of the ark of the convenant?, the throne of God?
The tabernacle?
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It looks like Jesus Christ
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"Michael Jackson(is) Back...?"
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I see many things on that chair, but I need I much higher resolution...
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I can see faces in the black part one is a bit like the scream. Plus lots of other faces can you
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I think that maybe he have short hair now... and came to my mind this, remember at the end of 2009 when TMZ saying that paris have her first haircut and all that... maybe is a clue about the short hair... :mrgreen:
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I suck at paint. Anyway, I see on the golden "cape" trapped faces, lips, noses, eyes....
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according to this:
http://www.lesechos.fr/diaporamas/index ... hoto=19615 (http://www.lesechos.fr/diaporamas/index.php?id_diap=DIAP240610717_AF0506&id_rub=0&id_sous_rub=0&auto=0&id_photo=19615)
this photo was an inspiration for MJ to ask Arno Bani to make photos:
(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/Arno-Bani-1999.jpg)
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It looks like a shield cape, which means he's unbreakable and protected 8-)
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Jesus Christ is the High Priest of God who has both the chair of Mercy and Sacrifice, which transforms the first trial of a chair to one where mercy is offered to a sinner on the basis of justice satisfied.
Bengel noted that God "was placed before the eyes of all" other than the ark of the covenant which was veiled and which only approached the high priest. "
The Lord God set forth his Son, the Lord Jesus as the only one who would be the satisfaction for our sins. For God was pleased with the debt of sin. Your anger is turned away from the sinner saved. Christ absorbed the wrath of God in our place. He bore our guilt as our substitute.
When God looked at the sacrifice God judged the guilty man, the debt was paid in full, and His righteousness might therefore acquit the believing sinner who put their faith in the Lamb of God. That is the mercy seat where God found the man in His grace, that aside from the wrath of God because his righteousness was satisfied.
All lambs in the sacrifices of the Old Testament pointed to the perfect Lamb of God who take away our entire death penalty.
Is the death penalty going to be abolished or what?
I don´t think this interpretation of mine fits.
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Is there a link to this picture & article?
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That shape on the chair instantly kind of reminded me of something I saw in an article on the movie "Eyes Wide Shut":
Also, in the newly constructed English suburban town of Milton Keynes, which is nestled in the Chiltern Hills west of London, there are a pair of statues that feature one of the masks from this film. An identical pair of these statues are down the road a bit from the Waitrose Supermarket in Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire, England, UK. The photo below shows this statue juxtaposed with the same mask as seen in the film. Incidentally, the largest landowners in Buckinghamshire, where these EWS statues can be found, are the Rothschild family, one of the 13 Illuminati bloodlines that appear to control the direction of the entire planet.
Figure 21 - EWS Statues and same mask from film (statue photos by: Ellis C. Taylor and Mike Dodd)
http://kentroversypapers.blogspot.com/2006/03/eyes-wide-shut-occult-symbolism.html It's too long to post here, but it's fascinating, the director Stanley Kubrick died quite suspiciously, as well..
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according to this:
http://www.lesechos.fr/diaporamas/index ... hoto=19615 (http://www.lesechos.fr/diaporamas/index.php?id_diap=DIAP240610717_AF0506&id_rub=0&id_sous_rub=0&auto=0&id_photo=19615)
this photo was an inspiration for MJ to ask Arno Bani to make photos:
(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/Arno-Bani-1999.jpg)
Michael Jackson: the photo shoot unique LesEchos.fr
Originally. One day in April 1999, Michael Jackson came across this photo to a supplement "Style" of the "Sunday Times". It is the work of Arno Brani.Après have met the author, a young Parisian fashion photographer in just 23 years, Michael Jackson has decided: it is he and no other, that will make the photo cover of his upcoming album "Invincible".
© Vente aux enchères Pierre Bergé & Associés – 2010 – Arno Bani
http://www.lesechos.fr/diaporamas/index.php?id_diap=DIAP240610717_AF0506&id_rub=0&id_sous_rub=0&auto=0&id_photo=19615
I made the picture larger and it definitely looks like something he is wearing like in this picture, the lighter colour on the sides appear to be sleeves and a squared neckline. It also seems that Michael is looking at the earth from space and the earth has a red hue. From the heavens perhaps, looking at a earth on fire, a sunset/rise?
The picture is now too large to be posted on the forum so please click it and then click the pic itself when you go to photobucket.
http://s778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/?action=view¤t=MJBackPic.jpg
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World Exclusive Photograph: The Sphinx
With many thanks to Paris, Pierre Bergé & Associés – here is an exclusive look at what is going to become a very exciting Michael Jackson Auction for fans everywhere.
Next December 13th, auction house Paris, Pierre Bergé & Associés will hold an exclusive auction to sell photos from a stunning session that Michael Jackson did for his Invincible album but that were never used or seen because his record company deemed them too daring!
The main attraction of this sensational auction will be the presentation of a photo called “The Sphinx” – which Michael wanted to use for the cover of Invincible.
On October 8th, the front side of the picture will be revealed – and MJSTAR will have a world exclusive first look.
Below is a rare photograph of the Sphinx shot from behind.
http://www.mjstar.com/ (http://www.mjstar.com/)
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World Exclusive Photograph: The Sphinx
With many thanks to Paris, Pierre Bergé & Associés – here is an exclusive look at what is going to become a very exciting Michael Jackson Auction for fans everywhere.
Next December 13th, auction house Paris, Pierre Bergé & Associés will hold an exclusive auction to sell photos from a stunning session that Michael Jackson did for his Invincible album but that were never used or seen because his record company deemed them too daring!
The main attraction of this sensational auction will be the presentation of a photo called “The Sphinx” – which Michael wanted to use for the cover of Invincible.
On October 8th, the front side of the picture will be revealed – and MJSTAR will have a world exclusive first look.
Below is a rare photograph of the Sphinx shot from behind.
http://www.mjstar.com/ (http://www.mjstar.com/)
Post by Serenitys_Dream » Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:47 pm
There are actually 13 signs in the Zodiac.
(http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=9764)
Michael is actually a Leo.
[attachment=3:cpo86wnt]Leo.jpg[/attachment:cpo86wnt]
The Sphinx in Egypt is facing it's mirror image in the night sky as it looks directly at the constellation Leo.
(Man in the Mirror?)
[attachment=2:cpo86wnt]Leo 1.jpg[/attachment:cpo86wnt]
The Sphinx was built by Pharoah Khafre.
[attachment=1:cpo86wnt]Khafre.jpg[/attachment:cpo86wnt]
Michael recreated himself as the statue of Khafre in the HIStory CD Booklet.
[attachment=0:cpo86wnt]Michael as Khafre.jpg[/attachment:cpo86wnt]
Anyone besides me seeing a connection here yet?
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=12085&start=1200#p235976
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I see a huge connection.......Although the first thing that came to my mind was..just like ijcsly said............this confirms
"MICHAEL'S BACK"
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"Michael Jackson(is) Back...?"
ijcsly....you beat me to the punch! That is EXACTLY what I was thinking! Michael is BACK (as in Back from the Forum)!!!
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I see a huge connection.......Although the first thing that came to my mind was..just like ijcsly said............this confirms
"MICHAEL'S BACK"
Oh, for the LOVE of Mike! I swear, 2good2btrue, I did NOT read your last post before posting mine! Our posts were nearly identical! TOO FUNNY!
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This is so interesting! Yes I also thought "Back". The painting looks to me also of him watching earth from outerspace, while sitting perhaps on a throne. The earth could be burning, or it's the dawn of a new age/aion, as in the start of the 1000 year reign of Christ. It also reminds me of the Earth poem that MJ wrote and recites so beautifully as if viewing from his "chair".
[youtube:24wcft0o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VWXsFM1nIo[/youtube:24wcft0o]
The sphinx in the sky as Leo is so fascinating, and your info Serenitys_Dream. Wow! [attachment=0:24wcft0o]Sphinx%20of%20Giza--color%20600wide[1].jpg[/attachment:24wcft0o]
Vivant Denon drew this image of the Sphinx of Giza around 1798, prior to its defacement. This image and written account (a part of the collection) is from the 1803 issue of Universal Magazine. From that same magazine, here is the written account in Denon's own words, "...Though its proportions are colossal, the outline is pure and graceful; the expression of the head is mild, gracious, and tranquil; the character is African, but the mouth, and lips of which are thick, has a softness and delicacy of execution truly admirable; it seems real life and flesh. Art must have been at a high pitch when this monument was executed; for, if the head wants what is called style, that is the say, the straight and bold lines which give expression to the figures under which the Greeks have designated their deities, yet sufficient justice has been rendered to the fine simplicity and character of nature which is displayed in this figure..." -- order postcard of Sphinx of Giza
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The texture of his back looks to me like snakeskin. What kind of snake I don't know. What could that signify?[attachment=0:3gpkipcd]Snake_Skin_Seamless_Texture_by_FantasyStock[1].jpg[/attachment:3gpkipcd]
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This seems to be the original cover of Sunday Times Style with the photo of the lady (or not :? ) in something that appears to be a shawl (according to the tagline on the cover)
(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/shawl.jpg)
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Oh, for the LOVE of Mike! I swear, 2good2btrue, I did NOT read your last post before posting mine! Our posts were nearly identical! TOO FUNNY!
At least we are on the same page :lol: :lol: :lol:
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The texture of his back looks to me like snakeskin. What kind of snake I don't know. What could that signify?[attachment=0:k0bzcjk5]Snake_Skin_Seamless_Texture_by_FantasyStock[1].jpg[/attachment:k0bzcjk5]
Symbolism from wikipedia:
Yeah, this was the first think that cross to my mind...the thing he was wearing looks like a snakeskin :?
In Egyptian history, the snake occupies a primary role with the Nile cobra adorning the crown of the pharaoh in ancient times. It was worshipped as one of the gods and was also used for sinister purposes: murder of an adversary and ritual suicide (Cleopatra).
Medusa by 16th Century Italian artist Caravaggio.
In Greek mythology snakes are often associated with deadly and dangerous antagonists, but this is not to say that snakes are symbolic of evil; in fact, snakes are a chthonic symbol, roughly translated as 'earthbound'. The nine-headed Lernaean Hydra that Hercules defeated and the three Gorgon sisters are children of Gaia, the earth.[71] Medusa was one of the three Gorgon sisters who Perseus defeated.[71] Medusa is described as a hideous mortal, with snakes instead of hair and the power to turn men to stone with her gaze.[71] After killing her, Perseus gave her head to Athena who fixed it to her shield called the Aegis.[71] The Titans are also depicted in art with snakes instead of legs and feet for the same reason—they are children of Gaia and Ouranos (Uranus), so they are bound to the earth.
Three medical symbols involving snakes that are still used today are Bowl of Hygieia, symbolizing pharmacy, and the Caduceus and Rod of Asclepius, which are symbols denoting medicine in general.[32]
India is often called the land of snakes and is steeped in tradition regarding snakes.[72] Snakes are worshipped as gods even today with many women pouring milk on snake pits (despite snakes' aversion for milk).[72] The cobra is seen on the neck of Shiva and Vishnu is depicted often as sleeping on a seven-headed snake or within the coils of a serpent.[73] There are also several temples in India solely for cobras sometimes called Nagraj (King of Snakes) and it is believed that snakes are symbols of fertility. There is a Hindu festival called Nag Panchami each year on which day snakes are venerated and prayed to. See also Nāga.
In India there is another mythology about snakes. Commonly known in Hindi as "Ichchhadhari" snakes. Such snakes can take the form of any living creature, but prefer human form. These mythical snakes possess a valuable gem called "Mani", which is more brilliant than diamond. There are many stories in India about greedy people trying to possess this gem and ending up getting killed.
The Ouroboros is a symbol associated with many different religions and customs, and is claimed to be related to Alchemy. The Ouroboros or Oroboros is a snake eating its own tail in a clock-wise direction (from the head to the tail) in the shape of a circle, representing manifestation of one's own life and rebirth, leading to immortality.
The snake is one of the 12 celestial animals of Chinese Zodiac, in the Chinese calendar.
Many ancient Peruvian cultures worshipped nature.[74] They emphasized animals and often depicted snakes in their art
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The texture of his back looks to me like snakeskin. What kind of snake I don't know. What could that signify?[attachment=0:jsvnz9t8]Snake_Skin_Seamless_Texture_by_FantasyStock[1].jpg[/attachment:jsvnz9t8]
Yeah, this was the first think that crossed to my mind...the thing he was wearing looks like a snakeskin :?
Read what is said about snake on wikipedia... at the symbolism part..it's very interesting. I can't post, i don't know why.
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CC, I also see a face in this image. I have the photo in the computer in " my images " and change the size and it is possible to see. :mrgreen:
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(http://nsa20.casimages.com/img/2010/09/20/mini_100920101457588887.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=100920101457588887.jpg)
Finally, note that the photographs of Arno Bani will be exposed to the public on 11 and 12 December from 11am to 22h and December 13th from 11am to 15h. The sale will begin on 13 to 20h at the Hôtel Salomon de Rothschild
Hôtel Salomon de Rothschild - Solomon Hotel of Rothschild
Hôtel Salomon de Rothschild at 11. rue Berryer in the 8th arrondissement in Paris, France, is a former residence of Adèle Hannah Charlotte Rothschild (1843–1922), the widow of Salomon James de Rothschild of the Rothschild banking family of France. Designed by Leon Ohnet and constructed between 1872 and 1878, it is located in the heart of Paris, near the Rue du Faubourg Saint-Honoré.
On her death in 1922, the Jewish Adèle Rothschild bequeathed the property to the French government fine arts administration rather than to her only child, Hélène de Rothschild whom she had disinherited for marrying a Roman Catholic.
Today the building is home to Centre National de la Photographie and its renowned garden is open to the public. The following cultural and socio-educational organizations currently are in the building:
Translated from French to English
ADAGP ( Ste Authors Graphic and Plastic Arts )
Albert Gleizes Foundation
National Foundation for Graphic Arts Plastics ( FNAGP )
Friends of Nogent
National Society of Fine Arts
National Union of Sculptors
Artists House
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%B4tel_Salomon_de_Rothschild
The Rothschild are Illuminati, the are one of the 13 Bloodlines and they are the World's Bankers. The Reference to Solomon is to King Solomon of Israel who all Royal families claim to trace their bloodlines back to.
A Rothschild is whom Maura suggests may have fathered an illegitimate child with a woman who was an American Slave and an ancestor of Michael.
The Rothschild Family
The Rothschild family (known as The House of Rothschild, or more simply as the Rothschilds) is a European dynasty of German Jewish origin that established European banking and finance houses from the late eighteenth century. Five lines of the Austrian branch of the family were elevated into the Austrian nobility, being given hereditary baronies of the Habsburg Empire by Emperor Francis II in 1816. The British branch of the family was elevated into the British nobility by Queen Victoria. It has been argued that during the 19th century, the family as a whole possessed by far the largest private fortune in the world, and by far the largest fortune in modern history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family
Rothschild Banking Family of France
The Rothschild banking family of France was founded in 1812 in Paris by James Mayer Rothschild (1792–1868). James was sent there from his home in Frankfurt, Germany by his father, Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744–1812). Wanting his sons to succeed on their own and to expand the family business across Europe, Mayer Amschel Rothschild had his eldest son remain in Frankfurt, while his four other sons were sent to different European cities to establish a financial institution to invest in business and provide banking services. Endogamy within the family was an essential part of the Rothschild strategy in order to ensure control of their wealth remained in family hands.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_banking_family_of_France
[youtube:34bns7ew]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F4IGwuKdUQ[/youtube:34bns7ew]
[youtube:34bns7ew]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2Yjoi2_5pw[/youtube:34bns7ew]
[youtube:34bns7ew]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47WM2BhklmM[/youtube:34bns7ew]
And there are many more videos on youtube or sites on the Internet that discuss this Royal Family of Bankers.
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Wow you guys are awesome! Thanks for the research and possible meanings behind this. I especially like the Michael IS BACK. :lol:
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The texture of his back looks to me like snakeskin. What kind of snake I don't know. What could that signify?
(http://nsa20.casimages.com/img/2010/09/20/mini_100920101457588887.jpg)
In the book of Numbers 13 Moses was leading the Israelites to the Promised Land. When they were on the verge of entering, Yahweh [Enlil], flying high in his pillar of light, ordered them to stop short and to send out some spies to search the land of Canaan. In actuality, this was a search for the secrets of the Anunnaki, and E.A. One of Moses’ operatives was Joshua the “Son of Nun,” meaning ‘fish’. In the protosiniatic Hebrew alphabet glyphs the letter nun was drawn as a serpent. Nun means eternally regenerating life (in cycles because of the serpent’s shedding of its skin as it grows) or immortality.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_autor_whenry04.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nun_%28letter%29
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CC, I also see a face in this image. I have the photo in the computer in " my images " and change the size and it is possible to see. :mrgreen:
for me looks like V... :roll:
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There's also the serpent in the Garden of Eden. :?
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Atum
Atum (alternatively spelled Tem, Temu, Tum, and Atem) is an important deity in Egyptian mythology, whose cult centred on the city of Heliopolis (Egyptian: Annu). His name is thought to be derived from the word 'tem' which means to complete or finish. Thus he has been interpreted as being the 'complete one' and also the finisher of the world, which he returns to watery chaos at the end of the creative cycle. As creator he was seen as the underlying substance of the world, the deities and all things being made of his flesh or alternatively being his ka.
Atum is one of the most important and frequently mentioned deities from earliest times, as evidenced by his prominence in the Pyramid Texts, where he is portrayed as both a creator and father to the king. He is usually depicted as a man wearing either the royal head-cloth or the dual white and red crown of Upper Egypt, and Lower Egypt, reinforcing his connection with kingship. Sometimes he also is shown as a serpent, the form which he returns to at the end of the creative cycle and also occasionally as a mongoose, lion, bull, lizard, or ape.
In the Heliopolitan creation myth established in the sixth dynasty, he was considered to be the first god, having created himself, sitting on a mound (benben) (or identified with the mound itself), from the primordial waters (Nu). Early myths state that Atum created the god Shu and goddess Tefnut from spitting or from his semen by masturbation in Heliopolis.
Atum was a self-created deity, the first being to emerge from the darkness and endless watery abyss that girdled the world before creation. A product of the energy and matter contained in this chaos, he created divine and human beings through loneliness: alone in the universe, he produced from his own semen Shu, the god of air, and Tefnut, the goddess of moisture. The brother and sister, curious about the primeval waters that surrounded them went to explore the- and disappeared into the darkness. Unable to bear his loss, Atum sent a fiery messenger to find his children. The tears of joy he shed on their return were the first human beings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atum
Atum was also associated with the earth and the underworld—likely due to his role in the creation of the cosmos. In this guise, he was often depicted as a primordial serpent or eel.
Ra
Ra (alternately spelled Ré),is the ancient Egyptian sun god. By the Fifth Dynasty he had become a major deity in ancient Egyptian religion, identified primarily with the mid-day sun. The meaning of the name is uncertain, but it is thought that if not a word for 'sun' it may be a variant of or linked to words meaning 'creative power' and 'creator'.
The chief cult centre of Ra was Heliopolis (called Iunu, "Place of Pillars", in Egyptian), where he was identified with the local sun-god Atum. Through Atum, or as Atum-Ra he was also seen as the first being and the originator of the Ennead, consisting of Shu and Tefnut, Geb and Nut, Osiris, Set, Isis and Nephthys.
In later Egyptian dynastic times, Ra was merged with the god Horus, as Re-Horakhty ("Ra, who is Horus of the Two Horizons"). He was believed to rule in all parts of the created world the sky, the earth, and the underworld. He was associated with the falcon or hawk. When in the New Kingdom the god Amun rose to prominence he was fused with Ra as Amun-Ra.
During the Amarna Period, Akhenaten suppressed the cult of Ra in favour of another solar deity, the Aten, the deified solar disc, but after the death of Akhenaten the cult of Ra was restored.
The cult of the Mnevis bull, an embodiment of Ra, had its centre in Heliopolis and there was a formal burial ground for the sacrificed bulls north of the city.
All forms of life were believed to have been created by Ra, who called each of them into existence by speaking their secret names. Alternatively humans were created from Ra's tears and sweat, hence the Egyptians call themselves the "Cattle of Ra."
Aten
Aten (also Aton, Egyptian jtn) the disk of the sun in ancient Egyptian mythology, and originally an aspect of Ra.
He became the focused upon deity of the arguably monolatristic, henotheistic, or even monistic religion of Atenism established by Amenhotep IV, who later took the name Akhenaten in worship and recognition of Aten. In his poem "Great Hymn to the Aten", Akhenaten praises Aten as the creator, and giver of life. Some scholars have speculated that Psalm 104 may have been influenced by this hymn.
The worship of Aten was eradicated by Horemheb possibly as a damnation of memory against Ay whom he replaced as pharoah.
The full title of Akhenaten's god was The Rahorus who rejoices in the horizon, in his/her Name of the Light which is seen in the sun disc. (This is the title of the god as it appears on the numerous stelae which were placed to mark the boundaries of Akhenaten's new capital at Akhetaten, modern Amarna.) This lengthy name was often shortened to Ra-Horus-Aten or just Aten in many texts, but the god of Akhenaten raised to supremacy is considered a synthesis of very ancient gods viewed in a new and different way.
Relief dated 1350BC of the sun disk of Aten
Both Ra and Horus characteristics are part of the god, but the god is also considered to be both masculine and feminine simultaneously. All creation was thought to emanate from the god and to exist within the god. In particular, the god was not depicted in anthropomorphic (human) form, but as rays of light extending from the sun's disk. Furthermore, the god's name came to be written within a cartouche, along with the titles normally given to a Pharaoh, another break with ancient tradition.
The Aten, the sun-disk, first appears in texts dating to the 12th dynasty, in The Story of Sinuhe, where the deceased king is described as rising as god to the heavens and uniting with the sun-disk, the divine body merging with its maker.
Ra-Horus, more usually referred to as Ra-Herakhty (Ra, who is Horus of the two horizons), is a synthesis of two other gods, both of which are attested from very early on. During the Amarna period, this synthesis was seen as the invisible source of energy of the sun god, of which the visible manifestation was the Aten, the solar disk. Thus Ra-Horus-Aten was a development of old ideas which came gradually. The real change, as some see it, was the apparent abandonment of all other gods, above all Amun, and the debatable introduction of monotheism by Akhenaten. The syncretism is readily apparent in the Great Hymn to the Aten in which Re-Herakhty, Shu and Aten are merged into the creator god. Others see Akhenaten as a practitioner of an Aten monolatry, as he did not actively deny the existence of other gods; he simply refrained from worshipping any but the Aten.
The Uraeus
(http://www.dealbase.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/king_tut.gif)
The uraeus was the image of the Egyptian cobra (Naja haje), worn in the front of the king's headdress. Here the snake represents the snake goddess Wadjet, associated with the Lower Egyptian sanctuary of Buto. Her counterpart was the vulture goddess Nekhbet of Hierakonpolis in Upper Egypt. Wadjet acted as a mythical mother and midwife of the king. At Tuna el-Gebel, mummified cobras have been found amongst the millions of other animals in the great animal catacombs.
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The texture of his back looks to me like snakeskin. What kind of snake I don't know. What could that signify?[attachment=0:2ut3pfrj]Snake_Skin_Seamless_Texture_by_FantasyStock[1].jpg[/attachment:2ut3pfrj]
Symbolism from wikipedia:
Yeah, this was the first think that cross to my mind...the thing he was wearing looks like a snakeskin :?
In Egyptian history, the snake occupies a primary role with the Nile cobra adorning the crown of the pharaoh in ancient times. It was worshipped as one of the gods and was also used for sinister purposes: murder of an adversary and ritual suicide (Cleopatra).
Medusa by 16th Century Italian artist Caravaggio.
In Greek mythology snakes are often associated with deadly and dangerous antagonists, but this is not to say that snakes are symbolic of evil; in fact, snakes are a chthonic symbol, roughly translated as 'earthbound'. The nine-headed Lernaean Hydra that Hercules defeated and the three Gorgon sisters are children of Gaia, the earth.[71] Medusa was one of the three Gorgon sisters who Perseus defeated.[71] Medusa is described as a hideous mortal, with snakes instead of hair and the power to turn men to stone with her gaze.[71] After killing her, Perseus gave her head to Athena who fixed it to her shield called the Aegis.[71] The Titans are also depicted in art with snakes instead of legs and feet for the same reason—they are children of Gaia and Ouranos (Uranus), so they are bound to the earth.
Three medical symbols involving snakes that are still used today are Bowl of Hygieia, symbolizing pharmacy, and the Caduceus and Rod of Asclepius, which are symbols denoting medicine in general.[32]
India is often called the land of snakes and is steeped in tradition regarding snakes.[72] Snakes are worshipped as gods even today with many women pouring milk on snake pits (despite snakes' aversion for milk).[72] The cobra is seen on the neck of Shiva and Vishnu is depicted often as sleeping on a seven-headed snake or within the coils of a serpent.[73] There are also several temples in India solely for cobras sometimes called Nagraj (King of Snakes) and it is believed that snakes are symbols of fertility. There is a Hindu festival called Nag Panchami each year on which day snakes are venerated and prayed to. See also Nāga.
In India there is another mythology about snakes. Commonly known in Hindi as "Ichchhadhari" snakes. Such snakes can take the form of any living creature, but prefer human form. These mythical snakes possess a valuable gem called "Mani", which is more brilliant than diamond. There are many stories in India about greedy people trying to possess this gem and ending up getting killed.
The Ouroboros is a symbol associated with many different religions and customs, and is claimed to be related to Alchemy. The Ouroboros or Oroboros is a snake eating its own tail in a clock-wise direction (from the head to the tail) in the shape of a circle, representing manifestation of one's own life and rebirth, leading to immortality.
The snake is one of the 12 celestial animals of Chinese Zodiac, in the Chinese calendar.
Many ancient Peruvian cultures worshipped nature.[74] They emphasized animals and often depicted snakes in their art
I saw snake skin too. I also thought Armidillo with the tough skin and they roll up in a ball and play dead, lol
But this REALLY caught my eye from the wiki page
In India there is another mythology about snakes. Commonly known in Hindi as "Ichchhadhari" snakes. Such snakes can take the form of any living creature, but prefer human form. These mythical snakes possess a valuable gem called "Mani", which is more brilliant than diamond. There are many stories in India about greedy people trying to possess this gem and ending up getting killed.
:shock: :?
Suicides Anyone?
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The texture of his back looks to me like snakeskin. What kind of snake I don't know. What could that signify?
Symbolism from wikipedia:
Yeah, this was the first think that cross to my mind...the thing he was wearing looks like a snakeskin :?
In Egyptian history, the snake occupies a primary role with the Nile cobra adorning the crown of the pharaoh in ancient times. It was worshipped as one of the gods and was also used for sinister purposes: murder of an adversary and ritual suicide (Cleopatra).
Medusa by 16th Century Italian artist Caravaggio.
In Greek mythology snakes are often associated with deadly and dangerous antagonists, but this is not to say that snakes are symbolic of evil; in fact, snakes are a chthonic symbol, roughly translated as 'earthbound'. The nine-headed Lernaean Hydra that Hercules defeated and the three Gorgon sisters are children of Gaia, the earth.[71] Medusa was one of the three Gorgon sisters who Perseus defeated.[71] Medusa is described as a hideous mortal, with snakes instead of hair and the power to turn men to stone with her gaze.[71] After killing her, Perseus gave her head to Athena who fixed it to her shield called the Aegis.[71] The Titans are also depicted in art with snakes instead of legs and feet for the same reason—they are children of Gaia and Ouranos (Uranus), so they are bound to the earth.
Three medical symbols involving snakes that are still used today are Bowl of Hygieia, symbolizing pharmacy, and the Caduceus and Rod of Asclepius, which are symbols denoting medicine in general.[32]
India is often called the land of snakes and is steeped in tradition regarding snakes.[72] Snakes are worshipped as gods even today with many women pouring milk on snake pits (despite snakes' aversion for milk).[72] The cobra is seen on the neck of Shiva and Vishnu is depicted often as sleeping on a seven-headed snake or within the coils of a serpent.[73] There are also several temples in India solely for cobras sometimes called Nagraj (King of Snakes) and it is believed that snakes are symbols of fertility. There is a Hindu festival called Nag Panchami each year on which day snakes are venerated and prayed to. See also Nāga.
In India there is another mythology about snakes. Commonly known in Hindi as "Ichchhadhari" snakes. Such snakes can take the form of any living creature, but prefer human form. These mythical snakes possess a valuable gem called "Mani", which is more brilliant than diamond. There are many stories in India about greedy people trying to possess this gem and ending up getting killed.
The Ouroboros is a symbol associated with many different religions and customs, and is claimed to be related to Alchemy. The Ouroboros or Oroboros is a snake eating its own tail in a clock-wise direction (from the head to the tail) in the shape of a circle, representing manifestation of one's own life and rebirth, leading to immortality.
The snake is one of the 12 celestial animals of Chinese Zodiac, in the Chinese calendar.
Many ancient Peruvian cultures worshipped nature.[74] They emphasized animals and often depicted snakes in their art
I saw snake skin too. I also thought Armidillo with the tough skin and they roll up in a ball and play dead, lol
But this REALLY caught my eye from the wiki page
In India there is another mythology about snakes. Commonly known in Hindi as "Ichchhadhari" snakes. Such snakes can take the form of any living creature, but prefer human form. These mythical snakes possess a valuable gem called "Mani", which is more brilliant than diamond. There are many stories in India about greedy people trying to possess this gem and ending up getting killed.
:shock: :?
Suicides Anyone?
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The texture of his back looks to me like snakeskin. What kind of snake I don't know. What could that signify?
Symbolism from wikipedia:
Yeah, this was the first think that cross to my mind...the thing he was wearing looks like a snakeskin :?
In Egyptian
I saw snake skin too. I also thought Armidillo with the tough skin and they roll up in a ball and play dead, lol
But this REALLY caught my eye from the wiki page
In India there is another mythology about snakes. Commonly known in Hindi as "Ichchhadhari" snakes. Such snakes can take the form of any living creature, but prefer human form. These mythical snakes possess a valuable gem called "Mani", which is more brilliant than diamond. There are many stories in India about greedy people trying to possess this gem and ending up getting killed.
:shock: :?
Suicides Anyone?
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Snake scales
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation , search Jump to: navigation , search
Elaborately shaped scales on the head of a Vine snake, Ahaetulla nasuta . Snakes , like other reptiles , have a skin covered in scales . [ 1 ] Snakes are entirely covered with scales or scutes of various shapes and sizes. Scales protect the body of the snake, aid it in locomotion, allow moisture to be retained within, alter the surface characteristics such as roughness to aid in camouflage, and in some cases even aid in prey capture (such as Acrochordus ). The simple or complex colouration patterns (which help in camouflage and anti-predator display) are a property of the underlying skin, but the folded nature of scaled skin allows bright skin to be concealed between scales then revealed in order to startle predators.
Scales have been modified over time to serve other functions such as 'eyelash' fringes, and protective covers for the eyes [ 2 ] with the most distinctive modification being the rattle of the North American rattlesnakes.
Snakes periodically moult their scaly skins and acquire new ones. This permits replacement of old worn out skin, disposal of parasites and is thought to allow the snake to grow. The arrangement of scales is Used to identify snake species.
Snakes have been part and parcel of culture and religion. Vivid scale patterns have been thought to have influenced early art. The use of snake-skin in manufacture of purses, apparel and other articles led to large-scale killing of snakes, giving rise to advocacy for use of artificial snake-skin. Also Snake scales are to be found as motifs in fiction, video games and movies.
2 elements of the above info is striking to me:
1=>Michael's wearing a snakeskin could also mean he's in disguise like a snake with its camouflage skin. Replacement of old worn snakeskin means Michael returns, end of disguise, after disposal of parasites (media eo).
2=>Also Snake scales are to be found as motifs in fiction, video games and movies. These motifs are significant to Michael as we know.
L.O.V.E.
'Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.- Maya Angelou
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LMAO!
Sorry WTH happened?
I didn't mean to post 3 times, lol
8-) :lol:
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This seems to be the original cover of Sunday Times Style with the photo of the lady (or not :? ) in something that appears to be a shawl (according to the tagline on the cover)
(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/shawl.jpg)
What's the Wrapture word signify? And notice the word "back" is also in there. The Rapture is Evangelical Christianity's term for the catching away of born again Christians in the air to be with Jesus, most believe will happen before the 7 years of tribulation, called Pre-trib theory.
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.
Also 1 Corinthians 15:51-53
Personally in my own study, I believe the catching away part will come after the 7 year tribulation of world cataclysmic events as described in Revelation, and it will involve UFO's. Then will usher in a new aion, of the thousand year reign of Christ, ruling with a rod of iron. This is the first resurrection. The second resurrection is the vast remainder of humanity after that 1000 year period, after which will occur the judgment in which all will have their eyes and hearts open to truth and love, and ALL will become reconciled to their Creator to live forever, to rule and reign over perhaps other planets. Limitless. Just my conclusions.
Christ's ascention, as depicted in the stained glass over Michael's so-called crypt, is to be an example of how we will all rise in one of the 2 ressurrections. Acts 1 9-11
9 Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel, 11 who also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.”
It doesn't take you too much study of Scripture to realize there is often a handy little cloud or sky chariots around when miraculous things happen. I believe those are UFO's. Sometimes it's just the Spirit of the Lord that does the transporting, as in disciple Philip's case. Acts 8:38-40.
38 So he commanded the chariot to stand still. And both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water, and he baptized him. 39 Now when they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught Philip away, so that the eunuch saw him no more; and he went on his way rejoicing. 40 But Philip was found at Azotus. And passing through, he preached in all the cities till he came to Caesarea.
Just my way of trying to connect ALL the dots.
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But this REALLY caught my eye from the wiki page[/b]
In India there is another mythology about snakes. Commonly known in Hindi as "Ichchhadhari" snakes. Such snakes can take the form of any living creature, but prefer human form. These mythical snakes possess a valuable gem called "Mani", which is more brilliant than diamond. There are many stories in India about greedy people trying to possess this gem and ending up getting killed.
:shock: :?
Suicides Anyone?
Nail on the head. There you go again imconvinced.
also:
Snakes periodically moult their scaly skins and acquire new ones. This permits replacement of old worn out skin, disposal of parasites and is thought to allow the snake to grow. The arrangement of scales is Used to identify snake species.
Nice mention, everlastinglove_MJ. Best thing about snake skin is it can be damaged or worn, and after a period of time it will shed to reveal a new layer of beautiful, flawless, brand new skin. This is a constant process through out the lifespan of the snake. Snakes do not appear to age over time due to this process and are particularly long lived.
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But this REALLY caught my eye from the wiki page[/b]
In India there is another mythology about snakes. Commonly known in Hindi as "Ichchhadhari" snakes. Such snakes can take the form of any living creature, but prefer human form. These mythical snakes possess a valuable gem called "Mani", which is more brilliant than diamond. There are many stories in India about greedy people trying to possess this gem and ending up getting killed.
:shock: :?
Suicides Anyone?
Nail on the head. There you go again imconvinced.
also:
Snakes periodically moult their scaly skins and acquire new ones. This permits replacement of old worn out skin, disposal of parasites and is thought to allow the snake to grow. The arrangement of scales is Used to identify snake species.
Nice mention, everlastinglove_MJ. Best thing about snake skin is it can be damaged or worn, and after a period of time it will shed to reveal a new layer of beautiful, flawless, brand new skin. This is a constant process through out the lifespan of the snake. Snakes do not appear to age over time due to this process and are particularly long lived.
And snakes swallow dirty rats whole.. ^_' (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/hitlist.jpg)
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But this REALLY caught my eye from the wiki page[/b]
In India there is another mythology about snakes. Commonly known in Hindi as "Ichchhadhari" snakes. Such snakes can take the form of any living creature, but prefer human form. These mythical snakes possess a valuable gem called "Mani", which is more brilliant than diamond. There are many stories in India about greedy people trying to possess this gem and ending up getting killed.
:shock: :?
Suicides Anyone?
Nail on the head. There you go again imconvinced.
also:
Snakes periodically moult their scaly skins and acquire new ones. This permits replacement of old worn out skin, disposal of parasites and is thought to allow the snake to grow. The arrangement of scales is Used to identify snake species.
Nice mention, everlastinglove_MJ. Best thing about snake skin is it can be damaged or worn, and after a period of time it will shed to reveal a new layer of beautiful, flawless, brand new skin. This is a constant process through out the lifespan of the snake. Snakes do not appear to age over time due to this process and are particularly long lived.
And snakes swallow dirty rats whole.. ^_' (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/hitlist.jpg)
Yeah they do. But not until they have drained the life out of them slowly but thoroughly.
Snakes use surprise as their method for catching prey. They blend into the back round waiting patiently for the unsuspecting quarry to wander within strike range.
Snakes are very methodical creatures. They lurk and have a tendency to pop up when least expected.
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To me the gold shawl looks similar to the face on the "Shroud of Jesus Christ".
I saw a TV show about it this year, and it was really amazing how they took the Shroud and made an actual photo of the image.
Sends chills down your spine.
All I can do though is smile because of "Michael's Back"!!!
:lol: :lol: :D :D ;) ;)
Love you people!
Love you Michael!
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Sorry. what made some of you think that this pic means "Michael is Back"?
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Sorry. what made some of you think that this pic means "Michael is Back"?
What is the picture showing?
Michael's back!
Michael is Back!
lol :ugeek:
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someone has his back...he's protected? by Jesus Christ? cause that's the face i see/
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someone has his back...he's protected? by Jesus Christ? cause that's the face i see/
:D
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Sorry. what made some of you think that this pic means "Michael is Back"?
What is the picture showing?
Michael's back!
Michael is Back!
lol :ugeek:
Ooops. To me what stood out was his head.
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Do you guys know that in the Native American culture that there is the Snake Totem, and with the Snake Totem the powers of intuition and observation becomes keener. In regards to the Snake on the Animal Totem it is stated that in general it reresent wisdom and rebirth. I do not remember where I read it, but something was said about snakes and rings of fire. I will look into it for you and get back on that. The background reminded me of that old say, but I do not have the correct wording. It is also stated that the Snake gives you the ability to let go of things that are worn out and no longer useful.
Do you guys remember in the movie where Michael threw down is old red jacket and stated to have it burn or let it burn. Getting rid of the old stuff because he will not need it anymore. And to make the connection, is he not of Native American descendant on both sides of his family. Now we are starting to think out of the box. I love this.
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(http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=8651)
[attachment=0:2s6jv4t2]Katherine Jackson.jpg[/attachment:2s6jv4t2]
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Since the inspiration, for Michael, for this photo shoot lies in an Egyptian themed fashion photo, I think the answer lies there.
I don't see a face on his back.
The photo Enlarged
http://s778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/?action=view¤t=MJBackPic.jpg
Zooming in on the picture it looks like he is wearing a robe of some type with a mesh overlay. The Robe looks Gold with white or silver sleeves. He is looking down at the earth from somewhere amongst the stars (the Heavens) which is represented by the blackness in his direct line of sight and there is a red hue above the earth.
In Egypt, the Pharaoh was considered a God incarnated and they used Gold to signify this.
Colour Symbolism in Egypt
YELLOW or GOLD
Yellow designated the eternal and the indestructible, also considered to be qualities of the sun and of gold. Many statues of the gods were either made of gold or were gold-plated; in fact, Egyptians believed the gods’ skin and bones were made from gold. Tomb paintings showed gods with golden skin, and pharaohs’ sarcophagi were made from gold, since the belief was that a deceased pharaoh became a god. Some chapters of the Book of the Dead require that funerary jewelry be made from gold, and many golden mummy masks have been found. When the Shen was made as a funerary amulet, it was always made of gold and placed inside the mummy wrappings above the breast. It was dedicated to Re and symbolized that the person would be restored to life and live as long as the sun shines, rising again like Re himself.
WHITE or SILVER
White denoted purity and omnipotence, and because it had no real color, it represented things sacred and simple. White was especially symbolic in the religious objects and ritual tools used by priests. Many of these were made of white alabaster, including the Apis Bulls’ embalming table. "Memphis", a holy city, meant "White Walls", and white sandals were worn to holy ceremonies. White was also the color used to portray most Egyptian clothing. Hedj, one of the words for white, was also a word used for silver. When silver was used together with gold, they symbolized the moon and sun. Because red and white were opposites in meaning, they were at times placed together to symbolize completeness.
RED
Red was a powerful color, symbolizing two extremes: Life and victory as well as anger and fire. Red also represented blood, and in Chapter 156 from the Book of the Dead (as translated by Dr. Raymond Faulkner), protection is sought through the blood (power) of Isis:
Chapter for a knot-amulet of red jasper
You have your blood, O Isis; you have your power, O Isis; you have your magic, O Isis. The amulet is a protection for this Great One which will drive away whoever would commit a crime against him.
BLACK
Black symbolized death, the underworld, and the night. We see this reflected in Osiris, who was referred to as "the black one" because he was king of the afterlife. In a rather unusual about-face, black could also represent fertility and resurrection because of the dark silt left behind by the annual Nile flood. From the most ancient Egyptian times, Egypt was known as Kemet, or "the black land", because of the dark soil of the Nile Valley; therefore, the color black symbolized Egypt itself. When used to represent resurrection, black and green were interchangeable.
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/colorcode.htm
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OMG.......he's got his back to us, people!!!! Could this be true?!?!?!?!?
"BACK TO US"?????????????????????????????????
EDIT: sorry, just saw this thread now and commented immediately as this popped into my head then come to see you all came up with this on page 2. Cool!!!!! Mike's back, baby!!!!!! And, I like it!!!!!!
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When the Israelites were wandering in the wilderness, Moses lifted up the brass serpent on the pole for the Israelites to be healed.
Numbers 21:5-9
And the people spoke against God and against Moses: “Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? For there is no food and no water, and our soul loathes this worthless bread.” 6 So the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and many of the people of Israel died.
7 Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, “We have sinned, for we have spoken against the LORD and against you; pray to the LORD that He take away the serpents from us.” So Moses prayed for the people.
8 Then the LORD said to Moses, “Make a fiery serpent, and set it on a pole; and it shall be that everyone who is bitten, when he looks at it, shall live.” 9 So Moses made a bronze serpent, and put it on a pole; and so it was, if a serpent had bitten anyone, when he looked at the bronze serpent, he lived.
Then John 3:14
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up,
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Well.....
In the middle of "Michael's Back!" I see...E.T. :)
(http://nsa20.casimages.com/img/2010/09/20/mini_100920101457588887.jpg)
http://nsa20.casimages.com/img/2010/09/ ... 588887.jpg (http://nsa20.casimages.com/img/2010/09/20/mini_100920101457588887.jpg)
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/8/24/1282642481262/1982-E.T.-THE-EXTRA-TERRE-006.jpg)
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Gua ... RE-006.jpg (http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/8/24/1282642481262/1982-E.T.-THE-EXTRA-TERRE-006.jpg)
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/unfHpK1mMtI/0.jpg)
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/unfHpK1mMtI/0.jpg (http://i.ytimg.com/vi/unfHpK1mMtI/0.jpg)
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I see V.
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Probably not related, but just another co-incidence, is that Michael Kiss and Elvis Presley (impersonators) have now named their show Back to Back.. :? :?
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Well.....
In the middle of "Michael's Back!" I see...E.T. :)
I see it too..
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OMG...I really need my tablets now...I see it too :o :o :o :lol: :lol: :lol:
I need to phone home...
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:lol: :lol: :lol: me tooooo :lol: :lol: :lol: i am breaking my mouth here :lol: :lol: oh my, thanks for this laugh :lol:
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phone home, michael phone home :lol:
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OMG...I really need my tablets now...I see it too :o :o :o :lol: :lol: :lol:
I need to phone home...
OMG
all you are so funny!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I see it to!
:P :mrgreen:
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I can't see ET ..i can't phone home...no credit on my cell? :lol:
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This picture looks like sunrise of the moon. Do you guys remember the movie Mission to Mars. I think you should take a look at some of the posters/images of this movie. You would find them very interesting. I have a question about the picture. We all know the directions in which the Sunrise and Sunset on Planet Earth. But what direction does the sun rise and sets on the Moon. Other question that I have is Does it not seems that Michael is in some type of Planetarium observing our Solar System and how each planet and their moons are being affect by the gravitional pull of the other planets in orbit. Guys do you remember the video that Michael made with Janet call Scream.
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I do see a face.... ;) but ET :? :lol:
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The hair cut in this pic and the others look similar to Janet's short hair cut. Does anyone know when Janet cut her hair and when these pic started to circulate, I think it was around the same time?
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http://mjstar.co.uk/?p=3357 (http://mjstar.co.uk/?p=3357)
"In just over a week, Paris, Pierre Bergé & Associés – will unveil the never before seen photograph entitled The Sphinx” here is an exclusive teaser. The presentation of the photo called “The Sphinx” – which Michael wanted to use for the cover of Invincible
December 13th, auction house Paris, Pierre Bergé & Associés will hold an exclusive auction to sell photos from a stunning session that Michael Jackson did for his Invincible album but that were never used or seen because his record company deemed them too daring!
On October 8th, the front side of the picture will be revealed – and MJSTAR will have a world exclusive first look."
:?: :?:
(http://mjstar.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/sphinx.gif)
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Daring like the YANA video with Lisa?
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(http://img.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/jacksonauctionphoto__oPt.jpg)
Get ready Michael Jackson fans, never-before-seen photos of the King of Pop will soon be going up for auction!
Luckily, PerezHilton.com has the opportunity to show you a sneak peek at the collecition with the special photo above.
But on December 13th, Pierre Bergé & Associés will hold a worldwide, exclusive auction for the special collection of Jackson shots by photographer Arno Bani .
The photos were taken back in 1998 when Jackson was recording his Invincible album. He hired Bani to help conceptualize the visual identity of his latest record. The shoot took place over several days in Paris at a private warehouse.
According to reports, the results of the shoot were “so bold that the singer's record company discarded the whole project and buried the pictures.”
What do U think of the image above from the collection?
[Image via Michael Jackson's Sphinx Picture © Pierre Bergé Auctions / Arno Bani / pba-auctions.com]
http://perezhilton.com/2010-10-07-word- ... e-for-sale (http://perezhilton.com/2010-10-07-word-premiere-of-exclusive-michael-jackson-image-for-sale)
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no lol
like this lol :D
(http://nsa19.casimages.com/img/2010/10/07/mini_101007094017195304.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=101007094017195304.jpg)
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1998 again? I do not believe this photo taken in 1998
and this one too
(http://maicoljecson.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/picture-1.png)
:roll:
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(http://www.lesechos.fr/medias/diaporamas/2406/DIAP240610717_AF0506/Arno-Bani-1999.jpg)
http://www.oliviamichel.com/archive/201 ... ckson.html (http://www.oliviamichel.com/archive/2010/09/07/michael-jackson.html)
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I rather remember the blue eye pic.....the golden one is...is....i don´t like it.
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First time I've seen the gold pic, very striking but I can almost see why the record company dropped it (if they did) as it's so airbrushed and they'd be looking to avoid anything that would be classed as bizarre. Also the media would no doubt jump on it and claim he looked like a woman or something. I do think the hair quite suits him though, he looks gorgeous despite the airbrushing! ;)
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I mean no disrespect because I admire both artists...but the new pic looks like a blending of Michael and Prince (the singer).
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I mean no disrespect because I admire both artists...but the new pic looks like a blending of Michael and Prince (the singer).
Same here ;)
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no lol
like this lol :D
(http://nsa19.casimages.com/img/2010/10/07/mini_101007094017195304.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=101007094017195304.jpg)
I don't know which site posted the picture first, but here is a close up. :)
(http://mjstar.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/invincible.jpg)
http://mjstar.co.uk/?p=3372 (http://mjstar.co.uk/?p=3372)
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no disrepect to michael but the gold pic looks like jasmine guy
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no lol
like this lol :D
(http://nsa19.casimages.com/img/2010/10/07/mini_101007094017195304.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=101007094017195304.jpg)
I don't know which site posted the picture first, but here is a close up. :)
(http://mjstar.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/invincible.jpg)
http://mjstar.co.uk/?p=3372 (http://mjstar.co.uk/?p=3372)
héhéhéhéhéhé ;)
L.O.V.E
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no disrepect to michael but the gold pic looks like jasmine guy
and
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e191/mrcheckonit2006/KRYRB3.jpg)
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no disrepect to michael but the gold pic looks like jasmine guy
To me looks a bit like Akenatón
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TIQdU8q_Tso/SNji15c-ovI/AAAAAAAAAbA/rxNCGjuoPbE/s400/Akenaton.gif)
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Have a look at the dates...
PARIS (LALATE) – Photos that Michael Jackson had taken by Arno Bani at age 23 are now in a Paris auction with Pierre Berge Associes. The Michael Jackson Paris auction features 12 pictures, none of which have ever been seen. In fact, news of the auction today from Paris does not come with a preview of the images.
The pictures were taken in 1999 by Parisian photographer Arno Bani. Bani claims that in 1999 a 23-year old Jackson had seen Bani’s work in a French fashion magazine. Arnon claims Jackson called him and asked him to take his pictures. It remains unanswered for which purpose Jackson sought the pictures to be taken, how many were eventually snapped, and who retained the pictures after the photoshoot.
The auction has set bidding on each photo to start at roughly $1300. The Paris auction has 12 total pictures from that shoot. The Jackson estate has yet to make a statement about the auction. One of the pictures is named “Michael Jackson’s Blue Eye.”
http://news.lalate.com/2010/06/23/micha ... o-auction/ (http://news.lalate.com/2010/06/23/michael-jackson-arno-bani-photos-going-to-auction/)
...weird isn't it? In 1999 was Michael 40 years old, NOT 23 :? A lot of 999 in this article BTW
L.O.V.E. as always
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no, not michael, bani, he was 23 years old
Photos that Michael Jackson had taken by Arno Bani at age 23
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no lol
like this lol :D
(http://nsa19.casimages.com/img/2010/10/07/mini_101007094017195304.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=101007094017195304.jpg)
I don't know which site posted the picture first, but here is a close up. :)
(http://mjstar.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/invincible.jpg)
http://mjstar.co.uk/?p=3372 (http://mjstar.co.uk/?p=3372)
This photo doesn't really look like MJ. I mean, it's been heavily airbrushed and manipulated somehow...makes him look like he has an overbite or something.
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December 13, 2010 ... another event among many others, and Michael really considered dead, all profiting from it, and anything he comes back ... :cry:
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no, not michael, bani, he was 23 years old
Photos that Michael Jackson had taken by Arno Bani at age 23
Yes, I know, I've read that too, but in the 2nd paragraph:
Bani claims that in 1999 a 23-year old Jackson had seen Bani’s work in a French fashion magazine
is written that Jackson 23 years old is, it could be wrong grammar.
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So much of this picture looks airbrushed and altered in the face to me. However, I do notice Michael's distinctive "hollow" beneath his Adam's Apple, so maybe it IS him.
I do believe it is being released now due to the Hoax.
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(http://mjstar.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/invincible.jpg)
Is that supposed to be Mike?? Sorry, but doesn't look anything like him. Why would they airbrush it so much it would look like a different person?
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Oh, and I don't like the hair...reminds me of our (former) prime minister:
(http://www.top50vandejarennul.nl/wp-content/uploads//balkenende.jpg)
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What is the picture showing?
Michael's back!
Michael is Back!
lol :ugeek:
I thought the same when I saw the pic. I mean why would they need to take a pic of Michael's back? :D The message is so obvious. Michael is Back!!! :D
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hmm i wonder what michael thinks of these pictures...it doesnt even look like him at all, it looks like some mj impersonator or something, i dont know why any photographer of mj would ever want to make him look THIS airbrushed. i mean if the goal for the picture was to go for some type of serene-god-like-non-human-statuesque-figure then thats all good but i think they could've achieved that while still having michael at least look like himself. and this picture is honestly the first time ive ever seen mike and had second thoughs about his wig...haha
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What is the picture showing?
Michael's back!
Michael is Back!
lol :ugeek:
I thought the same when I saw the pic. I mean why would they need to take a pic of Michael's back? :D The message is so obvious. Michael is Back!!! :D
These pics were originally meant for the Invincible album. Maybe the "back" of Michael was to go at the back of the CD case... know what i mean? Face on front, back at back of the case.
Also.. yes it is airbrushed and he looks different.. that is called art. I think MJ was going for that effect.
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.. yes it is airbrushed and he looks different.. that is called art. I think MJ was going for that effect.
i know i know.. i mean i really like the picture of mike with the blue eye and that was airbrushed like crazy too. i also love the ebony pics of mike and those were airbrushed...i guess i just think this picture looks too much UNlike michael, imo, thats all.
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I agree. This picture just seems so ... I don't know if odd is the right word, but that's what I'm going with. I guess I personally don't look at that photo and think it's artistic, or all that flattering.
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(http://mjstar.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/invincible.jpg)
http://mjstar.co.uk/?p=3372 (http://mjstar.co.uk/?p=3372)
Even though the picture has been air brushed. I think it is very artistic and beautiful. :D
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I don't know what's going on with these, but I really feel like these pictures are not even photographs of him, that he actually went and had taken.. Look: (http://mjstar.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/invincible.jpg)(http://www.lesechos.fr/medias/diaporamas/2406/DIAP240610717_AF0506/Arno-Bani-1999.jpg) Michaelsupporter said just what my sister said, that it looks like Prince and MJ mixed, but I think they used that one of the girl and maybe someone who looks like him, or a different shot of him. I don't know, it kind of seems like this could have been done for profit, or maybe the hoax.. And to me, that first one with the blue circle looks like it was totally drawn on the computer, if it were a real, airbrushed photo then that's some lo-ow quality airbrushing that was done on it. That one was okay, this new one, I agree with Gema and Souza, overall it's not a great picture..
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(http://mjstar.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/invincible.jpg)
http://mjstar.co.uk/?p=3372 (http://mjstar.co.uk/?p=3372)
Even though the picture has been air brushed. I think it is very artistic and beautiful. :D
DancingTheDream
Also.. yes it is airbrushed and he looks different.. that is called art. I think MJ was going for that effect.
I agree, I think the picture is beautiful. :D
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Is it Michael? :?
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I think is MJ, with his eyes closed and painted on top as if would be open eyes.
Well, to me is not art, it´s handycraft. I don´t like it, sorry.
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someone said this on a another forum
PHOTOSHOP-- these are 2 photos combined to look like MJ. The top part was originally a photo of a female model and the bottom is the original one Mj wanted. I saw the original photos at MJJC closedeyes.gif
Here are the pics: This is clearly phoptoshopped because MJs face is heavily pixelized compared to the rest of the pic
(http://www.auctioncatalog-michaeljackson.com/images/mj-histo-pic.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e191/mrcheckonit2006/KRYRB3.jpg)
(http://img.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/jacksonauctionphoto__oPt.jpg)
http://www.mjj2005.com/kopboard/index.p ... 460&st=120 (http://www.mjj2005.com/kopboard/index.php?showtopic=54460&st=120)
So, the picture is a fake!! :roll:
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This picture is SOOO Prince-esque :lol: What did Prince say ... Hey, be careful. Michael could know something we don't ... :idea:
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The make-up is goldish (?) that does not mean it's the same concept as Kelly Rowland's pic.
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@wingheart Hi Karen, did Michael like the photos of Arno Bani ? they are so strange.
@swithearts No he didn't. That is why they were never released while Michael was alive.
about 4 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to swithearts
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someone said this on a another forum
PHOTOSHOP-- these are 2 photos combined to look like MJ. The top part was originally a photo of a female model and the bottom is the original one Mj wanted. I saw the original photos at MJJC closedeyes.gif
Here are the pics: This is clearly phoptoshopped because MJs face is heavily pixelized compared to the rest of the pic
(http://www.auctioncatalog-michaeljackson.com/images/mj-histo-pic.jpg)
REMOVED
(http://img.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/jacksonauctionphoto__oPt.jpg)
http://www.mjj2005.com/kopboard/index.p ... 460&st=120 (http://www.mjj2005.com/kopboard/index.php?showtopic=54460&st=120)
So, the picture is a fake!! :roll:
I disagree.
Just because you are having a hard time accepting something, doesn't automatically mean that someone else's opinion is correct, even if it is the same as your opinion. They are both just opinions based on nothing but how you personally feel.
The picture is not clearly photoshopped, it may have been airbrushed, touched up, enhanced etc as many professional photographs are. There is a difference between what we understand these two processes, photoshop and professional photographer finishes, as being and meaning.
This is Michael in these photographs, he is in makeup and the photo has been re-touched to produce the look he was going for. This "look" was for the cover of the "Invincible" album. He called these photos "The Sphinx" and was inspired by the magazine cover and he recreated that, with his own twist.
Please don't diminish the artistic quality of both Michael and the outcome of his efforts (the photograph) just because it isn't to your taste or different from the usual photographs, of Michael, that you are used to seeing.
Remember:
"Michael Jackson: Like You've Never Seen Him Before"
And as for Karen....
She has been wrong more than once in this whole thing. I take what she says with a grain of salt. she doesn't know Michael is alive IMO.
I have read that the record company rejected the photos considering them too risqué (racy and risky) for the album cover.
Michael still used an Egyptian theme which is the "Right Eye of Horus" for the "Invincible" album cover.
"From very early times in Egypt the sun and the moon were regarded as the eyes of the great falcon god Horus, though the two eyes eventually became differentiated, with the left eye (the "Eye of Horus") often being regarded as the symbol of the moon and the right eye (the "Eye of Re") being that of the sun.
The right eye of Horus, with its solar symbolism, was naturally associated with Re, and became the Eye of Re (Ra). Re was said to be the "father of the gods," for he was their head and king, as well as the father of humanity, and, according to some ancient myths, all living creatures that were believed to grow from his sweat or tears. The tears were produced from the Eye of Re, which was separable from him with a mind of its own. Once when it did not return, Re sent Shu and Tefnut to get it, the Eye stubbornly resisted, and in the struggle shed tears; from the tears, men grew. Perhaps this myth emerged because the Egyptian words for "tears" and "men" share a similar sound."
"The Eye of Re" or "The Right Eye of Horus" was also used as a symbol of protection and should not be confused with "The Left Eye of Horus" which is found on US money and considered a symbol of the Illuminati.
So obviously Michael was inspired by the idea of "Egypt" and wanted something to do with that on the cover of the "Invincible" album. This is what is significant, the link to Egypt and what that all means...
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i DONt care if you dont disagree. Michael didnt like the picture, and i dont either
@wingheart Hi Karen, did Michael like the photos of Arno Bani ? they are so strange.
@swithearts No he didn't. That is why they were never released while Michael was alive.
about 4 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to swithearts
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i DONt care if you dont disagree. Michael didnt like the picture, and i dont either
@wingheart Hi Karen, did Michael like the photos of Arno Bani ? they are so strange.
@swithearts No he didn't. That is why they were never released while Michael was alive.
about 4 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to swithearts
How do you know what Michael liked or not?
Karen is the head of group claiming Michael is dead, her perspective is obviously incorrect.
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i DONt care if you dont disagree. Michael didnt like the picture, and i dont either
@wingheart Hi Karen, did Michael like the photos of Arno Bani ? they are so strange.
@swithearts No he didn't. That is why they were never released while Michael was alive.
about 4 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to swithearts
How do you know what Michael liked or not?
Karen is the head of group claiming Michael is dead, her perspective is obviously incorrect.
So is everyone else in Micheal's family saying hes dead :lol: Please...
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i DONt care if you dont disagree. Michael didnt like the picture, and i dont either
@wingheart Hi Karen, did Michael like the photos of Arno Bani ? they are so strange.
@swithearts No he didn't. That is why they were never released while Michael was alive.
about 4 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to swithearts
How do you know what Michael liked or not?
Karen is the head of group claiming Michael is dead, her perspective is obviously incorrect.
So is everyone else in Micheal's family saying hes dead :lol: Please...
Look, there is a difference between a family member playing a role and a friend who isn't involved. Michael's family isn't heading up any groups claiming Michael is "dead' like Karen is. Karen was a friend but not everyone Michael knew is involved and I don't think Karen is involved at all. She is too angry at those who believe Michael is alive and has tantrums about that. Besides Michael had/has many friends and not all of them know he is alive, that would be an impossible secret to keep.
You didn't respond to the rest of my post in which I explained that record company said "No" to the photograph being used on the "Invincible" album cover because it was felt the photo was too "Risqué". For myself, this seems highly plausible and not that Michael didn't like the photograph, we have no evidence to support that. Just look at the controversy the photograph is causing now. So it seems, Michael settled for a different Egyptian image for the album cover but still an Egyptian theme. And I say again...This is what is significant.
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I think it's important to note that Michael went to Bani with the idea for the photographs not the other way around. Michael also produced the magazine cover as an example of what he wanted to achieve (he in that case liked it). And then Michael entitled these photos "The Sphinx.
We really should be discussing the elements within the photograph, what it is representing and not our personal opinions on whether we like it or not.
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i DONt care if you dont disagree. Michael didnt like the picture, and i dont either
@wingheart Hi Karen, did Michael like the photos of Arno Bani ? they are so strange.
@swithearts No he didn't. That is why they were never released while Michael was alive.
about 4 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to swithearts
How do you know what Michael liked or not?
Karen is the head of group claiming Michael is dead, her perspective is obviously incorrect.
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even a broken clock ic right twice a day ;)
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i DONt care if you dont disagree. Michael didnt like the picture, and i dont either
@wingheart Hi Karen, did Michael like the photos of Arno Bani ? they are so strange.
@swithearts No he didn't. That is why they were never released while Michael was alive.
about 4 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to swithearts
How do you know what Michael liked or not?
Karen is the head of group claiming Michael is dead, her perspective is obviously incorrect.
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even a broken clock ic right twice a day ;)
I think it's important to note that Michael went to Bani with the idea for the photographs not the other way around. Michael also produced the magazine cover as an example of what he wanted to achieve (he in that case liked it). And then Michael entitled these photos "The Sphinx.
We really should be discussing the elements within the photograph, what it is representing and not our personal opinions on whether we like it or not.
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http://www.nme.com/video/id/JRWlnv0_svU ... bby%20Bare (http://www.nme.com/video/id/JRWlnv0_svU/search/Bobby%20Bare) ;)
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someone said this on a another forum
PHOTOSHOP-- these are 2 photos combined to look like MJ. The top part was originally a photo of a female model and the bottom is the original one Mj wanted. I saw the original photos at MJJC closedeyes.gif
Here are the pics: This is clearly phoptoshopped because MJs face is heavily pixelized compared to the rest of the pic
(http://www.auctioncatalog-michaeljackson.com/images/mj-histo-pic.jpg)
REMOVED
(http://img.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/jacksonauctionphoto__oPt.jpg)
http://www.mjj2005.com/kopboard/index.p ... 460&st=120 (http://www.mjj2005.com/kopboard/index.php?showtopic=54460&st=120)
So, the picture is a fake!! :roll:
I disagree.
Just because you are having a hard time accepting something, doesn't automatically mean that someone else's opinion is correct, even if it is the same as your opinion. They are both just opinions based on nothing but how you personally feel.
The picture is not clearly photoshopped, it may have been airbrushed, touched up, enhanced etc as many professional photographs are. There is a difference between what we understand these two processes, photoshop and professional photographer finishes, as being and meaning.
This is Michael in these photographs, he is in makeup and the photo has been re-touched to produce the look he was going for. This "look" was for the cover of the "Invincible" album. He called these photos "The Sphinx" and was inspired by the magazine cover and he recreated that, with his own twist.
Please don't diminish the artistic quality of both Michael and the outcome of his efforts (the photograph) just because it isn't to your taste or different from the usual photographs, of Michael, that you are used to seeing.
Remember:
"Michael Jackson: Like You've Never Seen Him Before"
And as for Karen....
She has been wrong more than once in this whole thing. I take what she says with a grain of salt. she doesn't know Michael is alive IMO.
I have read that the record company rejected the photos considering them too risqué (racy and risky) for the album cover.
Michael still used an Egyptian theme which is the "Right Eye of Horus" for the "Invincible" album cover.
"From very early times in Egypt the sun and the moon were regarded as the eyes of the great falcon god Horus, though the two eyes eventually became differentiated, with the left eye (the "Eye of Horus") often being regarded as the symbol of the moon and the right eye (the "Eye of Re") being that of the sun.
The right eye of Horus, with its solar symbolism, was naturally associated with Re, and became the Eye of Re (Ra). Re was said to be the "father of the gods," for he was their head and king, as well as the father of humanity, and, according to some ancient myths, all living creatures that were believed to grow from his sweat or tears. The tears were produced from the Eye of Re, which was separable from him with a mind of its own. Once when it did not return, Re sent Shu and Tefnut to get it, the Eye stubbornly resisted, and in the struggle shed tears; from the tears, men grew. Perhaps this myth emerged because the Egyptian words for "tears" and "men" share a similar sound."
"The Eye of Re" or "The Right Eye of Horus" was also used as a symbol of protection and should not be confused with "The Left Eye of Horus" which is found on US money and considered a symbol of the Illuminati.
So obviously Michael was inspired by the idea of "Egypt" and wanted something to do with that on the cover of the "Invincible" album. This is what is significant, the link to Egypt and what that all means...
You know, I hate to butt in, but this is the same photographer who pproduced that other picture, with the blue eye circle that looks like a total computer drawing... We really don't have any proof that MJ himself went to this man, and (Please don't be insulted!) your theory about the Egyptian theme is, well, a theory... It is true that his face is pixelized and it does look hyper-feminine like the female models. Plus, I think it's pretty silly to call these photos "risque"- it takes a lot more than that to get in trouble for being too risque' these days, o-hh, my.. I really don't know if that cover photo would not be used for that reason..
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I find it disturbing to see how to the enlarge the image, mouth, nose and eyes are much more pixelated than the rest of the picture ... as if they had stuck up. And if this was real why would they do such a thing? perhaps to make us believe that he is alive? to feed the rumor? to make us believe he is with them?... what is the purpose?
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i DONt care if you dont disagree. Michael didnt like the picture, and i dont either
@wingheart Hi Karen, did Michael like the photos of Arno Bani ? they are so strange.
@swithearts No he didn't. That is why they were never released while Michael was alive.
about 4 hours ago via TweetList! in reply to swithearts
Karen tweeting again about the photos, today - she maintains that Michael destroyed the negatives??!!
wingheart It is also an example of artist wanting his art to live....I am torn in both directions on this one. Very controversial photos.
33 minutes ago via TweetList!
Reply Retweet wingheart If this is true, this is really a betrayal. :(
41 minutes ago via TweetList!
Reply Retweet wingheart Just talked to MLB. MJ told Bush that he destroyed all the Arno Bani negatives himself...Yikes
43 minutes ago via TweetList!
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Theses are not new, I just don't believe it anymore. HE also made a song about a blue moon around that time which was about 10years ago but does anyone got proof that mj didn't meet him back then?
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Theses are not new, I just don't believe it anymore. HE also made a song about a blue moon around that time which was about 10years ago but does anyone got proof that mj didn't meet him back then?
Well...idk if it's actually proof, but according to Arno Bani's biography on his official website it says he met MJ in 2004 and in 1999 he would have been a senior in High School, or if it was late 1999 an intern at a photo studio...either way he didn't do the Sunday Times fashion photo shoot that MJ first saw his work in til 2002...so whether it's the bio or what Bani is telling us...someone is lying :?
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see the parallelismon these two pics....i am meaning the position of the mi's hand
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No I definately dont think this is Michael!
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Oh wow look at that one!...