Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => TMZ.com => Michael Jackson News => TMZ Discussion => Topic started by: ~Souza~ on September 15, 2010, 08:56:18 PM
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Dear Harvey, I would like to see the document that proves that AEG indeed hired Dr. Conrad Murray as Michael Jackson's personal physician. We have never seen a contract and it is said that no one ever paid him.
I can work without a contract and prove I work for someone by showing my paychecks. Or I can work for someone and have signed a contract with them to make sure I get my $$$ for my work.
If I have neither, I am screwed. No job, no $$$. Besides that, why hasn't Murray ever tried to sue AEG for not getting paid?
My point: if even Murray himself obviously can't prove he was on the payroll, how will Katherine be able to succesfully sue AEG?
Thanks in advance Harve.
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I hope Harvey will send a response as soon as possible Souza :mrgreen:
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You go girl.......good luck. :D
It was called the AEG/MURRAY AGREEMENT..
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Lol, funny...last night I had thought of starting a thread to ask old Harvey for a few things but decided against it.
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You go girl.......good luck. :D
It was called the AEG/MURRAY AGREEMENT..
I wonder did Murray ever get that May deposit? :shock: Dam.....I don't know what to do or think. Murder or Hoax Murder or Hoax! :( Going by these documents we have hell it sure seems like murder.
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First wish: I wish for unlimited wishes 8-)
I wish to see Murray's mug shot.
I also wish for TMZ to stake out Murray's house and get video of him arriving home in his car with the windows rolled up like every other high profile suspect is treated.
I also wish for TMZ to stake out Murray's clinic (either) and get the same footage.
Lastly, I wish for TMZ to give us an update on the 10/26/10 scheduled lawyers/judge meeting regarding the fluid samples and if the defense's request for them has been approved and signed by the judge yet. I know I'm really pushing it here but I also wish to know if the fluid samples in question are fluid samples from Michael Jackson's body. And don't tell me "yes the fluid samples are from the autopsy" because I'm wise to that trick.
Thanks Uncle Harvey. I'll give you hits if you grant my wishes :D
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I wish to see Murray's mug shot.
Hey Harvey! I would also like to see Murray's mugshot, if that's not asking too much.
I would also like to ask how does TMZ get all the Murray photos first? Whether the pics are blurry "pap" photos or "photo op" type pictures, it's always TMZ. Does the photographer coach Murray on what facial expressions/gestures to make for your future story useage? ;)
And - what is going on with Coke?
http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/05/michael-j ... addiction/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/05/michael-jackson-conrad-murray-manslaughter-trial-defense-coca-cole-caffeine-addiction/)
http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/conrad_ ... ost_recent (http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/conrad_murray_in_venice#tab=most_recent)
And can you say hi to Michael for me? :D
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Yo Harvey, who is this dude?
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(I aint talking about Joe, so don't try that trick 8-) )
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Oh well, let me add my request to Uncle Harv as well then, since begging and sending him flowers on Twitter isn't paying off :lol:
Harvey...please...show us every piece of paper Mocienne Petit Jackson has filed with the Superior Court of Los Angeles..?
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(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/kiss/blow.gif) ;) :lol:
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Harvey: (I shall refrain from calling you 'uncle' as I feel a bit weirded out by it :lol: )
How come TMZ always used to call Michael 'Jacko' and now you have suddenly gained respect?
Also, please pretty please can we get some clarification about the previously stated contract? It doesn't make any sense and my brain is about to explode and we wouldn't want that. No. :o
Also, is there any photograph taken of Murray that wasn't property of the National Photo Group? If so, pleeease post it!!
Thanks you are doing a great job!
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Thanks Harve!
The statement continues ... "Dr. Murray was Mr. Jackson's longtime personal physician. AEG did not choose him, hire him or supervise him. That said, and in honor of our professional relationship with Mr. Jackson and his Estate, we will have no further public statements."
http://www.tmz.com/2010/09/16/aeg-micha ... statement/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/09/16/aeg-michael-jackson-conrad-murray-statement/)
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dejavu on another forum I read that this man is John Amos, the acting in the 1977 series Roots, also acted in that series OJ Simpson.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roots_(TV_miniseries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roots_(TV_miniseries))
http://www.google.co.ve/images?hl=es&q= ... 59&bih=564 (http://www.google.co.ve/images?hl=es&q=John+Amos&rlz=1W1GGLL_es&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=MsKSTIWPE4W0lQeYy82nCg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CEYQsAQwAw&biw=1259&bih=564)
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Harvey - when you go on vacation...are you really meeting with Michael? Also, do you know where Michael is? A yes or no answer will do. Thank you.
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Harvey - when you go on vacation...are you really meeting with Michael? Also, do you know where Michael is? A yes or no answer will do. Thank you.
I'm going to add to this.
Harvey...when you go on vacation why does TMZ post so many MJ stories? The last time you were gone (about a month or so ago) there were several stories a day related to MJ. Now you are gone again and the MJ stories are coming like crazy. Looking forward to an answer from you.....
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Hey Uncle Harve, Ive heard Hawaii is the place to be. Is that why you keep going there?
Who do you visit in Hawaii???
Oh by the way, there's rumours going around that you have a second job. Is that true?
I saw this picture on another tabloid magazine. You have a big hose.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Be careful how you use it.. :lol: :lol:
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I wanna back up some and assume that any and all legal documents (i.e. contracts, law suits, death certificates, autopsy reports, etc.) I have seen on the internet are fake. So I'm gonna forget about them right now and pretend they don't exist.
Now what I would like are non-photoshopped pictures and/or video of MJ and Conrad Murray together. You can't tell me if Murray was MJ supposed doctor, and he was a cardiologist, that while MJ was supposedly participating in rigorous rehearsal activities that Murray would not have been required to be at the Staples Center during these times. With all the cameras at Staples, if Murray was there, you'd think there would be pictures or video of it. TMZ has never had trouble before obtaining pictures and/or information they shouldn't have, so I want proof that those two had even met.
Secondly, and although easier to fake, I want pictures of Conrad Murray that prove he is who everyone says he is. I know he didn't spring from his mother's loins a full grown man and a cardiologist. He went to school, college, and has most likely had many jobs in his lifetime...there should be pictures or proof he IS who y'all claim he is somewhere. I have searched but my searches are limited to the internet and anything on the internet related to Conrad Murray usually comes back to MJ, June 25, 2009, and the beginning of this whole mess of lies. There are small scraps of information surrounding the Houston clinic but not enough to convince me its real. My searches are also limited to the name Conrad Murray--but if that's not his real name then I'm wasting my time there.
I'm not going to chase after any more lies or be given intravenous doses of it from the media and/or anyone else trying to cover up the truth. We want the truth. You're a reporter, and claim to be a lawyer, so get out there find me legal proof and the irrefutable truth and then report it. Dare to be different.
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I'm not going to chase after any more lies or be given intravenous doses of it from the media and/or anyone else trying to cover up the truth. We want the truth. You're a reporter, and claim to be a lawyer, so get out there find me legal proof and the irrefutable truth and then report it. Dare to be different.
*GASP*... [and] Applause!!
Yeah, Harvey that's a plus one on what mdc said. Why are WE doing YOUR job?
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Now what I would like are non-photoshopped pictures and/or video of MJ and Conrad Murray together. You can't tell me if Murray was MJ supposed doctor, and he was a cardiologist, that while MJ was supposedly participating in rigorous rehearsal activities that Murray would not have been required to be at the Staples Center during these times. With all the cameras at Staples, if Murray was there, you'd think there would be pictures or video of it.
Yes, you would think Murray would have been required to be there.
From Larry King Live - at 7:50, LK asks Miko about Dr. Murray - Miko says "heard of him, but never met him...he was never at the Forum...nor was he at the Staples Center..." LK asks Lou Ferrigno, "Did you know him (Dr. Murray), Lou?" Lou's reply "No."
[youtube:y10wkmv5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE5kxbCppkU[/youtube:y10wkmv5]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE5kxbCppkU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE5kxbCppkU)
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From TS's last post: viewtopic.php?f=72&t=14058 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=14058)
"And let’s go back to the beginning once more: why was TMZ first to report the MJ “death”? Some have suggested that this is merely because TMZ was faster than all the other media, and got the information ahead of everyone else. But would MJ be so sloppy, as to accidentally allow an internet tabloid site be the first to find out about the “death”? If MJ planned this all out so well for so long (see Updates #4 & #6): don’t you think that he would also plan what media facility he wanted to first announce the “death”?
Furthermore, if MJ does not have a news source in on the hoax: then how can he demonstrate the problem of the media running stories from other news facilities, without checking it out for themselves (which is exactly what happens when TMZ posts articles)? And if MJ did plan to demonstrate this, then what news company is he using—if not TMZ??
Even if MJ were really dead, it’s possible that one or more in the Jackson family would read the hoax theories on the internet. And if you are sure MJ is alive: then you can be certain that they are watching the hoax on the internet. And even if they read one and only one hoax forum, surely it would be this one (MJDHI); because it’s the first hit on Google, because you don’t have to sign up to read it, and because it is the only hoax forum on the TMZ blog roll {http://www.tmz.com/blogroll/}.
Now why would TMZ put only this hoax forum on blog roll—which is also the only forum that TS posts on? If MJ and/or TMZ is against the TIAI messages: then this forum should NEVER be the on the TMZ blog roll!"
Hey Harvey, I know we probably won't find out TS's identity until after the BAM, but could you give us a hint??
And Harvey, for what you're doing for Michael - thank you.
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Harvey, I really liked the video of the plane in which Murray rescue a passenger who felt bad, have you thought of another funny video? :D
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I want to ask him if he can have a Dave Dave Live interview on his show :?
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Harvey, say hi to Michael. This reality show is a great adventure. Pure genius. I can't wait to see what's going to happen next.
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From TS's last post: viewtopic.php?f=72&t=14058 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=14058)
"And let’s go back to the beginning once more: why was TMZ first to report the MJ “death”? Some have suggested that this is merely because TMZ was faster than all the other media, and got the information ahead of everyone else. But would MJ be so sloppy, as to accidentally allow an internet tabloid site be the first to find out about the “death”? If MJ planned this all out so well for so long (see Updates #4 & #6): don’t you think that he would also plan what media facility he wanted to first announce the “death”?
Furthermore, if MJ does not have a news source in on the hoax: then how can he demonstrate the problem of the media running stories from other news facilities, without checking it out for themselves (which is exactly what happens when TMZ posts articles)? And if MJ did plan to demonstrate this, then what news company is he using—if not TMZ??
Even if MJ were really dead, it’s possible that one or more in the Jackson family would read the hoax theories on the internet. And if you are sure MJ is alive: then you can be certain that they are watching the hoax on the internet. And even if they read one and only one hoax forum, surely it would be this one (MJDHI); because it’s the first hit on Google, because you don’t have to sign up to read it, and because it is the only hoax forum on the TMZ blog roll {http://www.tmz.com/blogroll/}.
Now why would TMZ put only this hoax forum on blog roll—which is also the only forum that TS posts on? If MJ and/or TMZ is against the TIAI messages: then this forum should NEVER be the on the TMZ blog roll!"
Hey Harvey, I know we probably won't find out TS's identity until after the BAM, but could you give us a hint??
And Harvey, for what you're doing for Michael - thank you.
I like the way you think Andrea.
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You can't tell me if Murray was MJ supposed doctor, and he was a cardiologist, that while MJ was supposedly participating in rigorous rehearsal activities that Murray would not have been required to be at the Staples Center during these times. With all the cameras at Staples, if Murray was there, you'd think there would be pictures or video of it. TMZ has never had trouble before obtaining pictures and/or information they shouldn't have, so I want proof that those two had even met.
The lawsuit Katherine has just filed states that at the 'Riot act' meeting on 18th June, AEG demanded that Murray attend rehearsals with MJ, which he supposedly did. So I agree with you mdc, there should be some pics - if it actually happened that is!
It's on page 7, paragraph 38, of the document, but it won't let me copy and paste it, sorry.
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You can't tell me if Murray was MJ supposed doctor, and he was a cardiologist, that while MJ was supposedly participating in rigorous rehearsal activities that Murray would not have been required to be at the Staples Center during these times. With all the cameras at Staples, if Murray was there, you'd think there would be pictures or video of it. TMZ has never had trouble before obtaining pictures and/or information they shouldn't have, so I want proof that those two had even met.
The lawsuit Katherine has just filed states that at the 'Riot act' meeting on 18th June, AEG demanded that Murray attend rehearsals with MJ, which he supposedly did. So I agree with you mdc, there should be some pics - if it actually happened that is!
It's on page 7, paragraph 38, of the document, but it won't let me copy and paste it, sorry.
Thanks, that's fine. I don't think it happened anyway. Murray seems to have come out of nowhere and from nowhere. I have an overwhelming need to know who that man really is.
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Thanks, Harvey!!
TMZ's Celeb Look-Alike Contest -- Doppelgangers!
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9/18/2010
Haha excellent. Is Michael the only 'dead' one there??
In fiction, folklore, and popular culture, a doppelgänger is a tangible double of a LIVING person... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppelg%C3%A4nger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppelg%C3%A4nger)
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"'TMZ' is at the forefront of what will be a common movement of Web sites to TV," says Robert Thompson, professor of TV and Popular Culture at Syracuse University.
http://ezinearticles.com/?TMZ---Virtues ... id=1524914 (http://ezinearticles.com/?TMZ---Virtues-Versus-Vice&id=1524914)
"...popular culture continues its TMZ-ification."
http://badgerherald.com/sports/2010/04/ ... ith_tm.php (http://badgerherald.com/sports/2010/04/28/take_it_easy_with_tm.php)
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Good Harvey, is to say to you that this color that you chose as bottom for TMZ's page remembers very much his whom one uses in this forum. 8-)
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Hi "uncle" Harvey! *waves*
So I got a few questions too, hope they will be answered pretty soon!
OK, first Q. :
Did Jermaine prenounced MJ dead BEFORE or AFTER the coroner did?
(Did the coroner even do that?)
Since the coroner ( or the doctor who treated MJ at the hospital) had to prenounce him officially dead...
And the only one who I heard saying those words "Michael and passed away" together on the 25th of June last year was Jermaine, it's not even official if that didn't happen ;)
Q numer 2:
Has the death certificate been signed already? All I heard was La Toya signed it?
And since La Toya is NOT the coroner nor the doctor who treated MJ at the hospital at the time he arrived there, That makes the death certificate not valid. So I would like to know if it has been signed already by the REAL doctor who treated him OR the coroner.
Well, hope you'll answer to this :D
Greetz!
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Hervey, now that Missyb007 refers to what Jermaine said in the hospital, I remember that he was accompanied by Dr. Tohme Tohme, we all like to know what has happened to, why this man but never appeared? 8-)
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Uncle Harvey placed the bottom of the page in black, but I liked the other color ;)
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Hervey, now that Missyb007 refers to what Jermaine said in the hospital, I remember that he was accompanied by Dr. Tohme Tohme, we all like to know what has happened to, why this man but never appeared? 8-)
Yes that's a good question. What happened with Tohme Tohme we haven't hear anything about him so far yet?
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Uncle Harvey I must suppose that this video is a response to my question, I look at it before and please forgive me but occasionally I am a bit distracted, the video was published today one you see mas or already it was there, and if it was published today again it is a response to my question brings over of Tohme Tohme?
http://www.tmz.com/ (http://www.tmz.com/)
Mike Jackson is NOT Dead
You be the Judge you have to see this. search for mj
www.zonkspace.com (http://www.zonkspace.com)
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In this link you can see the video
http://www.zonkspace.com/videos/watch/7 ... bbff369d59 (http://www.zonkspace.com/videos/watch/7fb472d6460ef904c9012ebbff369d59)
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Harvey, dear, can you give us an update on the Mocienne Petit Jackson issue?
10/13/2010 at 10:00 am in department 5 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
MOTION - ORDER (MO TO ORDER FOR GENETIC TESTING)
10/13/2010 at 10:00 am in department 5 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
MOTION-RECONSIDERATION
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And what about Tohme's hearing from October 7th???
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If Tohme, please :oops: :mrgreen:
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Harvey, dear, can you give us an update on the Mocienne Petit Jackson issue?
10/13/2010 at 10:00 am in department 5 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
MOTION - ORDER (MO TO ORDER FOR GENETIC TESTING)
10/13/2010 at 10:00 am in department 5 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
MOTION-RECONSIDERATION
Thanks! (http://www.sybvanderploeg-info.nl/images/smiles/27.gif)[/b]
From the website of the LA Superior Court:
10/13/2010 at 10:00 am in Department 5, Mitchell L. Beckloff, Presiding
MOTION-RECONSIDERATION - Matter continued
10/13/2010 at 10:00 am in Department 5, Mitchell L. Beckloff, Presiding
MOTION - ORDER (MO TO ORDER FOR GENETIC TESTING) - Matter continued
Come on Harv...give us some details... (http://www.sybvanderploeg-info.nl/images/smiles/smiley_superwink.gif)
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Harvey, what is happening and do not answer our prayers?, :cry: :roll: What happened to Mocienne Petit, Tohme, ... and Murray, where is it?, please give us a sign ;)
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What is going on with Mocienne Petit? I don't know why she popped up in my head suddenly :lol:
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What is going on with Mocienne Petit? I don't know why she popped up in my head suddenly :lol:
:lol: Today i thought about that case as well
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Just the whereabouts of Tohme Tohme, and Grace Rwaramba for me please, Harvey!
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Harvey! please interview a jackson on tmz live! or even have arnie klein back! make it happen!
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Hi Harvey, I would like to hear from Debbie Rowe please, pretty pretty please.
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Hey Harvey, what about having "Dave Dave" on TMZ Live? ;)
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Hey Harvey, what about having "Dave Dave" on TMZ Live? ;)
I would love to see Dave Dave on the show.
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Harvey Harvey please tell us what Dr. Murray is doing !
Please show us a new recent photos with him :D
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Red_Rose wrote.
Harvey Harvey please tell us what Dr. Murray is doing !
Please show us a new recent photos with him
I vote for this :lol:
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Red_Rose wrote.
Harvey Harvey please tell us what Dr. Murray is doing !
Please show us a new recent photos with him
I vote for this :lol:
But make the photoshop in Paris or something :lol:
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Harvey, talk about Joe´s book pls.
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UNCLE HARVEY WHERE DID AND WITH WHO DID THE JACKSON BABIES SPEND THEIR THANKSGIVING? WE ASK U RESPOND :) LOL! IT'S LIKE WHERE ARE THEY? :lol:
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Hey HARVS,
Why did you pronounce MJ dead before everyone, do you and Michael have an agreement (like help me help you sorta thing) and are you the only one at TMZ who knows MJ faked his death?
Also is michaeljacksonfakeddeath.com made by MJ or not and got any info on the Murray trial lately that's coming up in January?
You don't have to answer these questions directly just maybe little hints on your TMZ stories would be good. :)
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I really don't think that Harve can't answer such direct obvious questions, even if he would want to.
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I really don't think that Harve can't answer such direct obvious questions, even if he would want to.
thats why I said give hints in the TMZ stories not directly though
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I did a typo. I wanted to say I don't think Harve can answer... ect
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Uncle Harvey I am really getting lots of laughs out of Dr Murrays fashion faux pars, but what I would like to see is a mug shot if there is one. Or is it too early in the plot to unearth that baby yet.
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Now this is going to trial, am I going to see that mug shot Harvey?
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Now this is going to trial, am I going to see that mug shot Harvey?
Yes, mugshot please! :lol:
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Harvey we could explain as your be so sure that Murray go to trial :?: