Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: Hazzely on September 08, 2010, 08:25:26 PM
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I ............ don't know what to say I'M LIKE OMFG I HOPE THIS IS TRUE it REALLY looks like Michael in TII . It says It says the pic was taken in JULY 6 2009 with a Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II
Why isn't there stated as "fking unusual" to have a pic of MJ after 25 june alive and well?
(http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/5347/afasfa.png) (http://img832.imageshack.us/i/afasfa.png/)
EXCLUSIVE.
2nd July 2009. Redondo Beach, California. Attorney at Law, Tony Capozzola at his office. Capozzola was Michael Jackson's former legal advisor during the late singers court battle, to fight child molestation, conspiracy and alcohol charges. The 'King Of Pop', was acquitted of all charges. The alleged victim was a boy named Gavin Arvizo.
WTF is this?¿
I tried to extract the EXIF but my program finds no extended information on this pic.
Is this for real?!
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More about Tony Capozzola and Michael here: http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/st ... il_1108667 (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/michael-jackson-terrified-of-jail_1108667)
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If anyone wants the photo to try to extract the EXIF from it let me know and I'll send it to you! That's a screen cap since it didn't let me upload the original one.
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I don't know :?
I don't understand, could it be something concerning Tony Capozzola that happened that day and they brought an old photo of him with MJ ?????
Where did you find this pic anyway?
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I don't know :?
I don't understand, could it be something concerning Tony Capozzola that happened that day and they brought an old photo of him with MJ ?????
Where did you find this pic anyway?
That's not an old photo, that's the same Michael we could see in TII.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mjjking/48 ... otostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mjjking/4823911816/in/photostream/)
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Since anyone can put whatever date they want there, it would be good if we had anyone who knew how to work with pics and how to extract the EXIF from them to see if those dates are true or false.
Still there's no doubt that's the same Michael from TII, that picture had to be taken in 2009.
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Can't explain photo, but here is the article from July 4th,2009, heart breaking article. :cry:
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/ABUSE+CAS ... 0202977021 (http://www.thefreelibrary.com/ABUSE+CASE+DROVE+HIM+TO+BRINK+OF+SUICIDE%3b+THE+KING+OF+POP+1958-2009...-a0202977021)
Byline: RYAN PARRY
MICHAEL Jackson Noun 1. Michael Jackson - United States singer who began singing with his four brothers and later became a highly successful star during the 1980s (born in 1958)
Michael Joe Jackson, Jackson was a suicidal wreck during his child abuse trial - fearing he would be thrown in jail, his former lawyer has revealed.
Defence attorney Tony Capozzola says a fragile Jacko spent hours on the phone sobbing that he was terrified ter·ri·fy
The star was also worried that his children would be left alone if he was convicted of molesting 13-year-old cancer survivor Gavin Arvizo in the 2005 trial.
In his first interview about the case, Capozzola revealed Jacko hated his nickname "Wacko Jacko" and failed to understand why the public thought it sick that he shared his bed with young boys.
Capozzola, 68, who runs a legal practice in Redondo Beach Redondo Beach , said: "Michael was terrified that he might be convicted and go to jail - that was his worst fear.
"He called me many, many times after court, he called me late at night.
"He was very emotional and crying in a lot of the calls, it was a really tough time for him, he was unstable.
"Our relationship developed into a friendship and if I wasn't there, he spoke to my wife. Michael was frightened to be in custody, he knew that if he went to prison as a child molester
degenerate, deviant, deviate, pervert - a person whose behavior deviates from what is acceptable especially in sexual behavior , terrible things would have happened to him.
"He was scared he would be attacked and even molested
To subject to unwanted or improper sexual activity. by other prisoners.
"Physically he was very frail and very frightened about that."
Capozzola had been asked by Michael to oversee his defence during the trial to make sure it ran smoothly. The case was triggered by a British documentary film, presented by the journalist Martin Bashir Martin Bashir in London) is a British journalist of Pakistani descent. , in which the singer admitted sharing his bed with young boys at his Neverland ranch in California.
Jackson insisted there was no sexual contact and that it was a "beautiful thing", "charming" and "sweet".
However, Arvizo went on to accuse Jackson of sexually abusing him and the singer was charged with 10 counts, including four of molesting a minor.
He denied all charges and claimed he was the victim of a failed extortion extortion, in law, unlawful demanding or receiving by an officer, in his official capacity, of any property or money not legally due to him. Examples include requesting and accepting fees in excess of those allowed to him by statute or arresting a person and, with attempt. But it came after being accused of abusing 13-year-old Jordan Chandler.
While Michael settled those 1993 claims with a EUR EUR
Notes:
The currency market, also known as the Foreign Exchange market, is the largest financial market in the world, with a daily average volume of over US $1 trillion. 10million payment, nothing could stop the Arvizo case going to court.
All Capozzola could do was try his best to reassure the King of Pop and constantly tell him the trial was going well and he wasn't going to jail.
During five months of stressful court appearances, Jacko battled a roller-coaster of emotions that could have easily led to the star ending his own life.
Capozzola said: "He would constantly say, 'Tony do you think I'm going to jail? I need you to be honest with me.' "He would break down, his voice would tremble and he'd be sobbing. He never said I'm going to kill myself, but he said I can't go to jail, I just can't, he implied that he would have to find another way out.
"I tried everything to keep his mind away from that, but I was worried he would do something stupid. In court, Michael was completely quiet, the perfect defendant. He wasn't arrogant, he didn't say a word. He just sat there frightened.
"They said all these terrible things about him. Michael was upset, even sick."
Jackson also believed Judge Rodney Melville had it in for him. "He thought the judge hated him, the judge seemed to threaten him all the time," said Capozzola.
In one bizarre appearance at Santa Maria court, Jackson arrived in his pyjamas Casapozzola said: "He was ill and frightened, which made him look weirder."
And still the popstar didn't grasp why there was such public outcry over his behaviour with children.
"He could not understand society's evil thoughts about him because of his mental set, he was Peter Pan, 'Why do they think I'm evil,' he'd say. 'I don't know why everyone thinks I'm guilty.' I had to be very blunt with him, I told him, 'Because you're a 48-year-old man and you got interviewed by Martin Bashir and told him you sleep with children, that doesn't go on in America or in most civilised countries, a man does not sleep with children.' "Michael told me nothing sexual went on and I believed him. But I said again that sleeping with kids doesn't go in today's society, but he told me, 'That's society's problem and not mine', in other words Adv. 1. in other words - otherwise stated; "in other words, we are broke"
put differently they are the dirty old men."
The lawyer recalls how Jackson hit rockbottom in the final days of the trial.
He said: "The night before the jury went out Michael hit an all-time low. His voice was trembling and he said, 'I'm very worried, I'm very worried.' His biggest concern was his children.
"He said, 'If I go to jail, I don't know what will happen to my family, who will look after them?'" During the trial Capozzola went on the attack and is credited with getting Michael cleared. He started investigating Gavin Arvizo's mother Janet and believed she was trying to extort To compel or coerce, as in a confession or information, by any means serving to overcome the other's power of resistance, thus making the confession or admission involuntary. To gain by wrongful methods; to obtain in an unlawful manner, as in to compel payments by means of threats of money from Michael.
He said: "I discovered she had committed welfare fraud, and once the jury heard about this, they held that thought throughout the trial, they believed she was a fraud, and she was a key witness.
"Michael Jackson was never an evil person, but he was certainly a target for those who are."
Quincy: His death is still too surreal LEGENDARY music producer Quincy Jones yesterday said he never believed in his "wildest nightmares" that Michael Jackson would die before him.
Quincy, 76, who worked with Jacko on his early albums, added: "I still don't know how to process it. It's too surrealistic Having an oddly dreamlike or unreal quality.We had so many experiences together, it's hard to believe."
Quincy (compared Michael with a little brother but said he would not attend his funeral. He added: "There's a lump down here, so deep with emotions. I don't go to any funerals and I won't be going to Michael's. I've lost 150 friends in two-anda-half years. That's a lot to deal with. It's so unreal that Michael has gone. I can't believe it. It's like a bad movie."
Quincy, who is a quarter Welsh, was made a fellow of the Welsh College of Music and Drama yesterday.
In a question and answer session with students, he said: "Michael's like a part of my soul. I can't help it, that's the way it is. He's my little brother that's gone.
"He was the very best. People ask me if he was crazy. All artists are crazy. You don't want the boy next door."
How he died affects EUR10m cover on gigs ORGANISERSof Michael Jackson's cancelled London concerts could lose a EUR10million insurance payment if it is found the singer died of natural causes.
oss Randy Phillips, below, said that would fall short of between EUR15million and EUR18million the firm had spent on Jackson's advance and other costs.
But he added that around 50% of those who had paid for seats had opted to receive their tickets as memorabilia instead of a full refund - a move that will help the company break even.
The sold-out O2 concerts generated EUR52million in ticket sales, but AEG has offered full refunds on the face value and surcharges.
Cash from rehearsal concert footage and a video project Jackson was overseeing could also help balance books.
Phillips said: "For the record, this great company I work for is not bankrupt and not going out of business and certainly not in trouble. I'm heartbroken but the company's fine."
Phillips said he saw no need to sue Jackson's estate to recover costs.He'd break down sobbing. I was worried he'd do something stupid and find a way out JACKO'S LAWYER TONY CAPOZZOLA
SUPPORT Tony Capozzola SEX CLAIM 1 INNOCENT Jacko cleared of abusing Gavin Arvizo POLICE FILE ACCUSED Michael's police mugshot after arrest SEX CLAIM 2 PAYOUT Jordan Chandler settled out of court UNDER STRESS Michael arriving at court in his pyjamas
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This is what I got from Photoshop...
(http://i56.tinypic.com/1zwdmwj.jpg)
(http://i52.tinypic.com/2wexeeh.jpg)
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Metropolitan News-Enterprise
Friday, March 28, 2003
Attorney Kills Paralegal, Self, in Dispute Over Money—Police
By a MetNews Staff Writer
A criminal defense attorney killed a paralegal, then himself, in a dispute over money, a police investigator said yesterday.
Attorney Gerald Scotti shot and killed the paralegal, Barry Feldman, with a .38 handgun inside a third-floor law office suite, Redondo Beach Police Department Sgt. Peter Grimm told the MetNews.
The bodies were discovered shortly before 6 p.m. at the office of defense attorney Carl A. “Tony” Capozzola when officers responded to a 911 call of gunshots fired, Grimm said. Capozzola, who was interviewed by detectives, witnessed the shooting but was not wounded, detectives explained.
Capozzola did not return a MetNews phone call. Another attorney who worked in the suite, Mark Haushalter, described the shooting to a reporter for the Daily Breeze of Torrance.
Shooting Described
“I heard about six shots, then a loud thump, as if something big had hit the floor,” he said. “I grabbed the other attorney in the room with me and ducked under the conference table. When I saw someone running down the hallway, I made a break for it.”
Haushalter’s partner, Ryan Okabe, said he also heard the shots.
“I thought it was someone fooling around with a cap gun until I smelled the gun powder,” Okabe told the newspaper.
“This place wasn’t like most law offices,” the 27-year-old added. “It was a very lighthearted place. I can’t imagine anyone in this office being angry or disgruntled enough to do something like this.”
A call to Scotti’s Beverly Hills office was taken by an answering service and not returned.
Scotti was a graduate of the University of LaVerne College of Law and had been an attorney since 1985.
DEA Agent
Attorneys who knew him described him as likeable. They said he attended law school while working as a Drug Enforcement Administration agent and became “persona non grata” at the agency after testifying as a subpoenaed defense witness in the trial of automaker John DeLorean.
His “adverse witness” testimony about some of the actions of his colleagues “corroborated our theory that DeLorean was set up by the government,” defense attorney
Howard Weitzman said.
Among Scotti’s clients was Francisco (Pancho Villa) Martinez, sentenced to life in prison plus 60 years last month on federal racketeering charges. Martinez, prosecutors said, ran the Columbia Li’l Cycos gang from a prison cell, controlling drug trafficking in MacArthur Park.
Other clients included convicted celebrity madam Jody “Babydol’’ Gibson; Sandy Murphy, convicted three years ago of helping kill her live-in boyfriend, wealthy Las Vegas casino owner Ted Binion; and Kambiz Maleki, a construction executive acquitted after four trials of trying to bribe an inspector for the Los Angeles Unified School District.
http://www.metnews.com/articles/scot032803.htm
The Bottom Line... Busted - DeLorean Case
TIME Magazine November 1, 1982
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,923044-1,00.html
John DeLorean - Entrapment
In the summer of 1982, DeLorean received a phone call from James Hoffman, a former drug smuggler turned FBI informant. DeLorean met with Hoffman on July 11, 1982, to discuss an investment opportunity to help save his company. Over the course of the next three months, Hoffman slowly explained his intricate plan involving cocaine smugglers, a bank for laundering money, and the specifics of how much money DeLorean would be required to front to procure the deal. DeLorean went along with these discussions, planning to trade DMC stock for the seed money for any deal that would benefit the company, but leaving the drug-smuggler investors with stock in a company completely controlled by the British government. On October 19, before going to meet the investors to consummate the deal, DeLorean wrote a letter to his attorney and sealed it, with instructions to open it only if he did not return. The letter explained the situation he was in and his fear for his family's safety if he tried to back out of the deal. On October 19, 1982, DeLorean was charged with trafficking in cocaine by the U.S. government.
DeLorean successfully defended himself with a procedural defense, arguing that the FBI had enticed a convicted narcotics smuggler to get him to supply the money to buy the cocaine. His attorney stated in Time (March 19, 1984), "This [was] a fictitious crime. Without the government, there would be no crime." The DeLorean defense team did not call any witnesses. DeLorean was found not guilty due to entrapment on August 16, 1984.
In late 1982, DeLorean's legal troubles were satirized in the comic strip Doonesbury, in which the character of Uncle Duke travels to Hollywood to become a film producer and make a movie based on DeLorean's life story. In an ironic twist, Duke, in an attempt to raise the money needed to buy the rights to the story, sets up a cocaine deal and is arrested by undercover government agents.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_DeLorean#Entrapment
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I checked the web page where the picture was posted and it also said this:
Tony Capozzola, black suit, Michael Jackson's lawyer, Michael Jackson's attorney, posing for photograph, Neverland Ranch, Michael Jackson, biography, arms around eachother, smile, smiling, happy, happiness
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It says this picture was taking at neverland ranch. I do not think it was taken after june 25..
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So in the pics the illusionist posted the date is the same, 06 july 2009 but I'm afraid it was edited..and if it was, for what purpose? If it was just to mock the believers why haven't we seen or heard about this pic before.
Still to me in that picture Michael looks just the way he did in TII..It has to be recent though I'm not sure if was taken after 25 june, the info might have been edited, changed or lost.
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John Chapple is a Photographer.
http://johnchapple.photoshelter.com/image/I00000ZaHYdylMOk
Spalsh News is a tabloid.
This is a picture that John Chapple took and sold to this tabloid. It isn't new, Michael was involved with Tony Capozzola around the time of the 2005 trial.
"Oxman reportedly got attorney Tony Capozzola hired by Jackson to assemble a dossier of the accuser’s mother’s welfare records and to write to the Los Angeles County district attorney in order to generate a legal case against her and undermine the prosecution as the molestation case went to trial. (In court the mother took the Fifth on welfare questions. She had wrongfully cashed two welfare checks, worth $1,500, while she was being supported by Major Jay Jackson.) In the dossier Capozzola prepared, all the food and lodging costs paid by Michael Jackson, including the family’s stay at Neverland, were itemized as income for her. Capozzola also filed a motion in the California State Supreme Court against District Attorney Sneddon for vindictive prosecution."
http://www.mjfiles.com/allegations/csi-neverland/
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yeah, I was going to say that I can remember that statue being in the Batshit documentary at Neverland too..... :?:
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The date on the camera could have been off when the picture was taken and that would account for the date on the picture. At least I think thats how it works. I may be wrong tho.
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The date on the camera could have been off when the picture was taken and that would account for the date on the picture. At least I think thats how it works. I may be wrong tho.
I have no idea how this works. But if you think the date was off, how do you explain the extracted day of creation is July 6? Like it has been added afterwards?
Another thought: do you think MJ would pose for the camera like that so shortly after his "death" :?: As much as I would like to believe this picture really is from that day...We can't seem to be able to prove it :?
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I don't know that much about photography but can someone enlarge it, and maybe see whats on the tv behind them? or check for a date on the wine bottle?
Kat
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MJ's clothes look like what he weared between end of 90's and the limit at 2003-2004. Moreover the quality of the photo doesn't look like she was taken by a recent camera. This is not 2009 for me.
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I don't know that much about photography but can someone enlarge it, and maybe see whats on the tv behind them? or check for a date on the wine bottle?
Kat
I did enlarge it but the pic is such a bad quality that you can't see anything at all. The bottle might not even be a real one but I wasn't able to make out anything written on the label. The same goes for the rest of the pic. It's too blurred :(
But to me it does look like MJ in 2009, I think I've seen that cap before...Can't remember where, or maybe it's just a similar one :?
In any case, I just don't think he'd pose for a pic so soon after his "death", that's why I don't believe that pic could be from that day
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Sorry my data looks hard to read. The important part is
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Sorry my data looks hard to read. The important part is
Profile Date Time 1998:02:09 06:49:00
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Sorry, I guess I'm a bit slow...What are you saying actually?
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Sorry my data looks hard to read. The important part is
Profile Date Time 1998:02:09 06:49:00
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Sorry, I guess I'm a bit slow...What are you saying actually?
that the pic is taken in 1998.
that "mannequin" was also on the Julians auction at the time teh article was written... the pic is from Neverland..
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Sorry my data looks hard to read. The important part is
Profile Date Time 1998:02:09 06:49:00
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Sorry, I guess I'm a bit slow...What are you saying actually?
that the pic is taken in 1998.
that "mannequin" was also on the Julians auction at the time teh article was written... the pic is from Neverland..
I see! Well...MJ doesn't look like 1998 there but ok..guess those data are correct. Anyways, would have been too good to be true :)
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MJ's clothes look like what he weared between end of 90's and the limit at 2003-2004. Moreover the quality of the photo doesn't look like she was taken by a recent camera. This is not 2009 for me.
that's is what i thought when i saw that pic.
to me that's pic is old.
i knew that michael went away from neverland IN THE LAST YEARS "OF HIS LIFE"
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M.. OK! THANKS! =))
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i had written that this picture was taken in neverland so if it was taken in Neverland it means it was in the 1995-1998. If it was after june 25/2009 he did not have Neverland ...
by all4loveandbelieve » Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:21 pm
I checked the web page where the picture was posted and it also said this:
Tony Capozzola, black suit, Michael Jackson's lawyer, Michael Jackson's attorney, posing for photograph, Neverland Ranch, Michael Jackson, biography, arms around eachother, smile, smiling, happy, happiness
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It says this picture was taking at neverland ranch. I do not think it was taken after june 25..
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I think the picture comes from Neverland! The background and the cook (doll) comes from Neverland
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Sorry but I had some problems with My computer and my post was not complete. :evil:
John Chapple is a Photographer.
http://johnchapple.photoshelter.com/image/I00000ZaHYdylMOk
Spalsh News is a tabloid.
This is a picture that John Chapple took and sold to this tabloid. It isn't new, Michael was involved with Tony Capozzola around the time of the 2005 trial.
"Oxman reportedly got attorney Tony Capozzola hired by Jackson to assemble a dossier of the accuser’s mother’s welfare records and to write to the Los Angeles County district attorney in order to generate a legal case against her and undermine the prosecution as the molestation case went to trial. (In court the mother took the Fifth on welfare questions. She had wrongfully cashed two welfare checks, worth $1,500, while she was being supported by Major Jay Jackson.) In the dossier Capozzola prepared, all the food and lodging costs paid by Michael Jackson, including the family’s stay at Neverland, were itemized as income for her. Capozzola also filed a motion in the California State Supreme Court against District Attorney Sneddon for vindictive prosecution."
http://www.mjfiles.com/allegations/csi-neverland/
Hello people!!!!
First of all I want to say that this is just my opinion,but I think this photo its recent.I dont say its from 2009,but maybe after 2007,who knows??? :?: :idea:
All I want you to keep in mind that we really dont know when THIS IS IT movie was done.We have just words ,articles from newspapers,contradictions and nothing more, :? But if we compare Michael from this photo with Michael from THIS IS IT at the THREATENED part when he and Travis Payne are doing that FANTASTIC moves,we can say that he look almost the same,no? Lets look ok?
Here it is:
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Serenity thank you very much for the http://www.mjfiles.com (http://www.mjfiles.com) .I foud out many intresting things about Michael's problem from 1993 and 2005.
About CSI Neverland article I dont know what to say,this things about Iluminati,fantasia(Disney) ,mafia ties and mind control are to much for me,sorry.But I really dont believe that Michael had problems with alchool and that he was broke.What stood out for me are some comments from the article :
Michael, Dreamer of Dreams. Here are this comments:
Salvador Astucia
Posted February 14, 2010 at 3:48 PM
“The Chandlers were probably brought in by the corp execs just for this job.”
The Chandlers were pawns. There were layers of pawns and layers of mendacity so deep that the average Christian would not think possible among fellow human beings. We’re dealing with an ancient cult that embraces racial superiority and enslavement of all peoples outside the cult (similar to former Soviet Communists/Bolsheviks, but that’s another discussion; the cult’s molevolence is described in the Old Testament.) It is quite obvious that the mastermind behind the 1993 and 2004 incidents was Abe Foxman ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abe_Foxman- (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abe_Foxman-) mmmmm... :evil: ) with the ADL, and probably a few high priests,(or whatever they’re called these days; is the term used in the Gospels – the true killers of Jesus)(WE ALREADY HAD A POST HERE ABOUT: MJ Framed to divert Media from Catholic Priest Child Abuse- http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=11252&p=196788&hilit=catholic+church#p196788 . Foxman had two reasons to bring down Michael. First, under Hebrew law, the ruling authority must kill all dreamers of dreams. (Ref. Deuteronomy 13.) So Michael was a marked man for many years for that reason alone. In fact, that was probably the only real motivation for the 1993 incident. But Michael apparently became wise to their tricks (similar to Jesus) and recorded the song, “They Really Don’t Care About Us,” in the mid-90s. [/size]This enraged high priest Foxman and his henchmen at the ADL. Michael had the nerve to use the word “kike” in the lyrics of that song.
The song was played repeatedly on TV after Michael’s death, and is included in the movie as well. Did it occur to anybody that this was done intentionally, by Foxman and the ADL, as a public display of its raw power — that they can murder anybody and get away with it? :idea: :shock:
Google “Bodily Harm” 1995 film, the Las Vegas prod. supr. is me. Some of the Las Vegas locations in this film are part of the 1993 MJ story, That will some day be a known fact. sorry to take to much space and time, just thought a good investigative author, might find some fun in this!!! and I still need a proof reader.
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I don't know :?
I don't understand, could it be something concerning Tony Capozzola that happened that day and they brought an old photo of him with MJ ?????
Where did you find this pic anyway?
That's not an old photo, that's the same Michael we could see in TII.
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Thank you very much for the site,you will never believe what photos I found on it,
:o ;) . One photo is with SPIKE LEE 8-) and he has a t-shirt wit nike and O2 on it and another one is an ELVIS look alike .Like Serenity's Dream said this man,Jhon Chapple is a photographer .......mmm :idea: The adress I found out its under the picture so look for yourself.
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EXCLUSIVE.
2nd July 2009. Redondo Beach, California. Attorney at Law, Tony Capozzola at his office. Capozzola was Michael Jackson's former legal advisor during the late singers court battle, to fight child molestation, conspiracy and alcohol charges. The 'King Of Pop', was acquitted of all charges. The alleged victim was a boy named Gavin Arvizo.
PHOTO © Tony Capozzola / SUPPLIED BY JOHN CHAPPLE /http://www.chapple.biztel +1 310 570 9100 You are not allowed to view links.
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Maybe it was the upload date? The photo with Michael was probably just to show that they used to know eachother.
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I am going to agree with AngelShadow about the picture. I took a look back at some of the pictures of Michael and the bone structure as totally different. In 1998 the bone structure from the cheek bones to the jawline was more fuller. I was looking back at picture from 2000 and on and you will see that he was losing weight in the face part. You will see that the structure around the lips arena was becoming more pronounced. I would say that the pictures from around latter of 2003-maybe early 2006 will give a better insight. Because in my opinion 1998 date is not working for me in this picture.
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I ............ don't know what to say I'M LIKE OMFG I HOPE THIS IS TRUE it REALLY looks like Michael in TII . It says It says the pic was taken in JULY 6 2009 with a Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II
Why isn't there stated as "fking unusual" to have a pic of MJ after 25 june alive and well?
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EXCLUSIVE.
2nd July 2009. Redondo Beach, California. Attorney at Law, Tony Capozzola at his office. Capozzola was Michael Jackson's former legal advisor during the late singers court battle, to fight child molestation, conspiracy and alcohol charges. The 'King Of Pop', was acquitted of all charges. The alleged victim was a boy named Gavin Arvizo.
WTF is this?¿
I tried to extract the EXIF but my program finds no extended information on this pic.
Is this for real?!
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More about Tony Capozzola and Michael here: http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/st ... il_1108667 (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/michael-jackson-terrified-of-jail_1108667)
Hi, Friends, - Dont breik your heads over this picture- IT MAY TAKEN AT NEVERLAND RANCH GUEST HOUSE - sorry, dates are not available for me :roll:
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He didnt wear his long straight hair in 1998 did he? it was long, but very wavy. :?
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Hi all, I am new to this site, (however on another hoax site) I believe MJ is alive but for my own reasons. I however do not believe all the so called clues that have been going around since his stated death.
As you see most of us were taking everything we read/seen/heard and making it out to be something stating Mj was alive. That is totally ridiculous. As MJ said himself do not believe everything you read and hear to be actual factual right.
Everything was like.....oh a note to LMP or cris angel or oh did you see that painting of the rabbit, I do not believe any of that. As you see many of these clues remain just what they are in reality.All the bamsdays that have come are now gone. So you see hes not back as of yet.
I believe that when Mike is finished what he set out to do he will then be back and only then. Not with the Circus de Soilel which is also mentioned as another "bamsday" not so. He needs to take care of something first. Something he believes in. Like I said I have my own reasons but right now it may sound all to far fetched so I will leave it at that.
AS for that photo that def is an old photo or any photo and just added in, if there is one thing I have learned ( I am old school) is that anyone (mostly the young ones, brought up with todays technology) is that one can edit/add/delete/touch up a photo, put their own writings and times and do just about anything on the computer they can even hack. So what I am saying is this should be of no surprise to anyone that once again someone is messing with your heads as usual. Look at barry shaw and such, think about it, it would defeat the purpose for Mike to just show up in photos at this time without accomplishing what he set out to do, dont you think. It would also defeat the purpose for him to pretend hes other people but really himself , to play those games and come back to some and not others. Nope he couldnt be bothered.
With that said I totally believe he will come back on his own time to everyone at the same time.
Thank you
Laurie
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Ok...................
I ............ don't know what to say I'M LIKE OMFG I HOPE THIS IS TRUE it REALLY looks like Michael in TII . It says It says the pic was taken in JULY 6 2009 with a Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II
Why isn't there stated as "fking unusual" to have a pic of MJ after 25 june alive and well?
(http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/5347/afasfa.png) (http://img832.imageshack.us/i/afasfa.png/)
EXCLUSIVE.
2nd July 2009. Redondo Beach, California. Attorney at Law, Tony Capozzola at his office. Capozzola was Michael Jackson's former legal advisor during the late singers court battle, to fight child molestation, conspiracy and alcohol charges. The 'King Of Pop', was acquitted of all charges. The alleged victim was a boy named Gavin Arvizo.
WTF is this?¿
I tried to extract the EXIF but my program finds no extended information on this pic.
Is this for real?!
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More about Tony Capozzola and Michael here: http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/st ... il_1108667 (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/michael-jackson-terrified-of-jail_1108667)
HI all again, I just want to mention in my opinion, look closely , all 3 of those pictures are fake, they do not look real at all, either that or they have been all touched for sure, it looks like all three are put together, its not hard to see that at all
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That picture was taken at Neverland Ranch. The reason it looks recent, like Michael in TII is because he's not wearing any make-up. He wasn't wearing any during rehearsals. Just his natural, beautiful self.
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I am going to agree with AngelShadow about the picture. I took a look back at some of the pictures of Michael and the bone structure as totally different. In 1998 the bone structure from the cheek bones to the jawline was more fuller. I was looking back at picture from 2000 and on and you will see that he was losing weight in the face part. You will see that the structure around the lips arena was becoming more pronounced. I would say that the pictures from around latter of 2003-maybe early 2006 will give a better insight. Because in my opinion 1998 date is not working for me in this picture.
I agree with you Lemonbread904 ;) :)
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Remember, Michael still owned a stake in neverland at the time of his "Death", so this pic can very well be in 2009 and still have taken place in Neverland.
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Guys I always try to be realistic and I'm sure that this is a recent pic of MJ! He looks like TTI Michael! He is admittedly very thin and his lips are full.As about the shirt he wears. there is a photo of him wearing it at the court during the 2005 case...Unfortunately I'm on vacation and I use my note book and I can't upload it! If it is photoshoped then congratulation to the one who made this because it looks VERY realistic to me ;) Moreover I can't see the reason why somebody would change the date that the photo was taken? Which would be the purpose? To manipulate the believers and make them turn their heads to the other side in order to cover the truth? :roll: (That MJ might be murdered??)
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Guys I always try to be realistic and I'm sure that this is a recent pic of MJ! He looks like TTI Michael! He is admittedly very thin and his lips are full.As about the shirt he wears. there is a photo of him wearing it at the court during the 2005 case...Unfortunately I'm on vacation and I use my note book and I can't upload it! If it is photoshoped then congratulation to the one who made this because it looks VERY realistic to me ;) Moreover I can't see the reason why somebody would change the date that the photo was taken? Which would be the purpose? To manipulate the believers and make them turn their heads to the other side in order to cover the truth? :roll: (That MJ might be murdered??)
Well I will say this, everyone has an opinion and no one is right nor wrong, but in all honesty, to me that pic looks so cartoony and fake, like the three of them are added in and not even in together for such a picture.
Someone might do this for reasons being that everyone is gullible and beiieving everything they read and see and hear just the opposite of what Mj says. Look when BS was around everyone added him to MSN believing it was MJ, a thing he would never do. I emailed this guy and told him exactly what I thought. Why do they do what they do on the net, who knows, you can be anyone and do whatever on here. Some do amazingly wonderful and not so wonderful work, I could never nor want to do. They like to play on peoples feelings, especially get them when they are naive and down. All kinds come on here with nothing else to do. They are laughin at the naive ones, figuring they add more clues for them to think about.
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Another thing about this pic guys and think about this......why the heck would Mike even willingly just take a picture after the stated death like nothing was up. It would defeat the purpose of pulling off maybe a couple of years work to fake his death. It doesn't make sense. I mean come on this would be all out by now, Mike would be talking and everyone and their families would have seen this by now. It would have hit media and impersonators, and yet lots of fans still believe he is gone.
No way as if , he wouldn't just say well I will take a picture for a clue and whoever sees it well they will know i am alive, nope , what he pulled off takes years of planning, money and trusting people. Finding the perfect actors. Really another person messing with photos that's it.
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How he died affects EUR10m cover on gigs ORGANISERSof Michael Jackson's cancelled London concerts could lose a EUR10million insurance payment if it is found the singer died of natural causes.
Did anybody not read that part? I know this is about the picture, but it's right there. If MJ died from old age it would have caused the insurance company to dish out 10 million euros. By "dying" from drugs or being murdered he covered their asses. He definitely knew what he was doing here, just in case there is a comeback in the future. I've always believed his main push for faking his death was the shows being upped from 10 to 50 performances.
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How he died affects EUR10m cover on gigs ORGANISERSof Michael Jackson's cancelled London concerts could lose a EUR10million insurance payment if it is found the singer died of natural causes.
Did anybody not read that part? I know this is about the picture, but it's right there. If MJ died from old age it would have caused the insurance company to dish out 10 million euros. By "dying" from drugs or being murdered he covered their asses. He definitely knew what he was doing here, just in case there is a comeback in the future. I've always believed his main push for faking his death was the shows being upped from 10 to 50 performances.
You know I never thought about the part of covering their asses and you are so right, however I do not believe that the main reason for the death hoax is upping the shows as it is not something you plan in one night, think about it. This plan must of taken a year or maybe more to plan. So at the time of planning there was no way to tell he would be picked for that many shows. Alternatively, this may have been all a set up anyways to make us think that he was under so much stress but yet again, then we would believe all the stories of the stated death. I know no one on the face of the earth could tell Mike what to do. If he wanted that many shows he would do them.
I think this is just another lead up to the stated death, not a thing that made him fake his death. I mean it takes a lot of planning and money. Just like that picture of "so called MJ' in the wheel chair, so not him, he knew then he was going to do this, this was just another way to make us think he was sick so when he passes, it would be believable. Does this make sense. I mean to do a tour for any entertainer it takes months of planning or even to make a movie. This brings me to my next point. "this is it" was NOT planned in a few short months, I believe that movie was in the making for a year prior.
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How he died affects EUR10m cover on gigs ORGANISERSof Michael Jackson's cancelled London concerts could lose a EUR10million insurance payment if it is found the singer died of natural causes.
Did anybody not read that part? I know this is about the picture, but it's right there. If MJ died from old age it would have caused the insurance company to dish out 10 million euros. By "dying" from drugs or being murdered he covered their asses. He definitely knew what he was doing here, just in case there is a comeback in the future. I've always believed his main push for faking his death was the shows being upped from 10 to 50 performances.
You know I never thought about the part of covering their asses and you are so right, however I do not believe that the main reason for the death hoax is upping the shows as it is not something you plan in one night, think about it. This plan must of taken a year or maybe more to plan. So at the time of planning there was no way to tell he would be picked for that many shows. Alternatively, this may have been all a set up anyways to make us think that he was under so much stress but yet again, then we would believe all the stories of the stated death. I know no one on the face of the earth could tell Mike what to do. If he wanted that many shows he would do them.
I think this is just another lead up to the stated death, not a thing that made him fake his death. I mean it takes a lot of planning and money. Just like that picture of "so called MJ' in the wheel chair, so not him, he knew then he was going to do this, this was just another way to make us think he was sick so when he passes, it would be believable. Does this make sense. I mean to do a tour for any entertainer it takes months of planning or even to make a movie. This brings me to my next point. "this is it" was NOT planned in a few short months, I believe that movie was in the making for a year prior.
Ha yeah oops. I was typing fast and didn't mean to say main push. But yes definitely a big factor. I've heard of death threats and to me that would be my biggest reason to get out of a place. There wouldn't be any reason to go somewhere if you received a death threat for when you got there.
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I think that the photograph is of 2003.
Michael had the same shirt, but of white color.
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I think that the photograph is of 2003.
Michael had the same shirt, but of white color.
there you go , someone who finally realizes how photos can be retouch.
Yes its an older picture and that one does look more like the so called "photograph"
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I'm sorry how does that pic of Michael wearing the white shirt prove the other one was retouched? Just because he is wearing the same shirt but different color?
Find me the "original" photo of Michael to prove me that really was edited because this is not convincing..
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I'm sorry how does that pic of Michael wearing the white shirt prove the other one was retouched? Just because he is wearing the same shirt but different color?
Find me the "original" photo of Michael to prove me that really was edited because this is not convincing..
I'm sorry how does that pic of Michael wearing the white shirt prove the other one was retouched? Just because he is wearing the same shirt but different color?
Find me the "original" photo of Michael to prove me that really was edited because this is not convincing..
Hello Hazzely!!!! :D
You know what???
I think you have right,I think the same like you.My intuition tells me that this photo its REAL :D .
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Whos_iT (http://twitter.com/Whos_iT) sent me this pic of Michael that was taken with the same man and in the same house, definitely not photoshopped, I checked the exif and again it is july 2009 (06 of july and there it says 02 july. I don't know what this means DateTime: 2009:07:06 00:00:00Date Time Digitized: 2009:07:02 17:33:01) and it was the same type of camera that was used (a CANON).
Maybe simalves can help me again with this pic..I find it strange that 2 pictures have the same date on it coming from different sources.
(http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/6875/nevergoodbyemichaeljack.jpg) (http://img831.imageshack.us/i/nevergoodbyemichaeljack.jpg/)
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/ ... 68-800.jpg (http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/15500000/Never-Good-bye-michael-jackson-15564261-768-800.jpg)
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Whos_iT (http://twitter.com/Whos_iT) sent me this pic of Michael that was taken with the same man and in the same house, definitely not photoshopped, I checked the exif and again it is july 2009 (06 of july and there it says 02 july. I don't know what this means DateTime: 2009:07:06 00:00:00Date Time Digitized: 2009:07:02 17:33:01) and it was the same type of camera that was used (a CANON).
Maybe simalves can help me again with this pic..I find it strange that 2 pictures have the same date on it coming from different sources.
(http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/6875/nevergoodbyemichaeljack.jpg) (http://img831.imageshack.us/i/nevergoodbyemichaeljack.jpg/)
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/ ... 68-800.jpg (http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/15500000/Never-Good-bye-michael-jackson-15564261-768-800.jpg)
this is not from july 2009, it looks fake, i dont care about any dates, once again why would MJ have a pic taken after all that work of the stated/hoaxed death, it defeats the purpose. It doesnt even look like him.
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The picture is before june 25, 2009. It is an old picture.
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The picture is before june 25, 2009. It is an old picture.
yes it its , thank you, more stuff everyone is using as clues, or they want it to be.
He has left no clues, he wants us to know he is here and we figured it out, plain and simple. IF he is, sometimes I wonder now.
Now its a matter of when he is back. Which is when he sets out to do what he accomplishes.
Have a blessed day all.
Laurie