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Title: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 31, 2010, 02:25:28 PM
Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening (http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/31/zsa-zsa-gabor-hospitalized-not-life-threatening-flu-like-symptoms/)
34 minutes ago by TMZ Staff  

Zsa Zsa Gabor has been taken to a hospital, but sources tell TMZ her condition is not life-threatening.

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/08/31/0831-zsa-zsa-ex-getty-01-credit.jpg)

We've learned the person who called 911 from Gabor's house mentioned flu-like symptoms and body pain.

We're told a private ambulance has taken Gabor to the hospital, without emergency lights flashing ... an indication her life is not in immediate danger.
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: paula-c on August 31, 2010, 02:29:37 PM
An interesting detail 8-)
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: *Mo* on August 31, 2010, 02:38:42 PM

What on earth is with the "flu-like symptoms"..?  I have seen that too many times during the past year, and flu-like symptoms is not something one normally gets hospitalized for.
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: Glinda on August 31, 2010, 02:44:44 PM
WTF?
 You can call a ambulance when you have the flu?
Amazing..
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: trublu on August 31, 2010, 02:45:44 PM
Woah interesting hint there TMZ thanks!
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 31, 2010, 02:47:33 PM
She collapsed 2 weeks ago and she is 93 years old. I think that is why she was taken to the hospital. At that age a flu can be dangerous.
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: *Mo* on August 31, 2010, 02:48:35 PM

Corey Haim Collapsed, Prescriptions Found

We've learned Corey had been sick the last couple of days with flu-like symptoms.
http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/10/corey-hai ... ose-found/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/10/corey-haim-collapsed-prescriptions-drugs-death-overdose-found/)



Murphy Sick and Vomiting Just Before She Died
We're told Murphy was taking prescription meds for flu-like symptoms she had been experiencing for several days.
http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/21/brittany- ... y-coroner/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/21/brittany-murphy-cardiac-arrest-diabetes-vomit-autopsy-coroner/)



Dennis Hopper Rushed to Hospital
His rep said he's being examined for flu-like symptoms.
http://www.tmz.com/2009/09/30/dennis-ho ... -new-york/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/09/30/dennis-hopper-rushed-to-hospital-flu-new-york/)



Anna Nicole Smith is Dead
Attorney Ron Rale says Anna had been under the weather with "flu-like symptoms" the past week and she "showed signs of a fever" last night.
http://www.tmz.com/2007/02/08/anna-nico ... collapses/ (http://www.tmz.com/2007/02/08/anna-nicole-smith-collapses/)
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 31, 2010, 02:49:22 PM
The PRIVATE ambulance is more of an interesting detail by the way, I guess it's normal in the US to have your own private ambulance?
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: paula-c on August 31, 2010, 02:51:08 PM
Or she has another thing.. or it does not have anything :?:
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: paula-c on August 31, 2010, 02:54:04 PM
Is it what they say when, there are problems with these prescribed medicines, symptoms of flu?
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: paula-c on August 31, 2010, 02:57:47 PM
Well if she is 93 years, whether to care for the flu, and more today that these viruses are so strong.
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: jacilovesmichael on August 31, 2010, 02:58:33 PM
Wow, now there's a blatant clue that Souza underlined. This is great. Thanks TMZ!
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: trublu on August 31, 2010, 03:03:08 PM
Plus, they don't need to post that the emergency lights weren't flashing thus indicating that there was no immediate danger. They could just say we have gathered 'there was no immediate danger'. I find this odd considering the fuss people made about MIchaels ambulance being slow and no sirens and lights etc. This sentence wasn't even necessary.
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: mdc on August 31, 2010, 03:07:58 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
The PRIVATE ambulance is more of an interesting detail by the way, I guess it's normal in the US to have your own private ambulance?

I don't think it means she owns her own ambulance. I think it is an ambulance you hire through a private company. Most ambulances (those associated with the local hospitals) will only deliver you to the hospital closest to your house but a private ambulance will take you to the hospital of your choice. JMO
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: lovemj4everandever on August 31, 2010, 03:35:48 PM
Well let's not forget all the news articles on June 25, 2009, that said Michael was taken to Cedar-Sinai Hospital in LA instead of UCLA, and that Cedar-Sinai was blocked off with yellow tape, etc.  I guess when you're in an ambulance with no lights, no sirens, and your life is not in danger, the ambulance will take you anywhere you want.  Maybe even to the airport!  

This is one article saying he was taken to Cedar-Sinai.....

http://www.twirlit.com/2009/06/25/micha ... rt-attack/ (http://www.twirlit.com/2009/06/25/michael-jackson-heart-attack/)

Here is another one...

http://buzzg.com/entertainment/celebrit ... -more.html (http://buzzg.com/entertainment/celebrity-entertainment/king-of-pop-michael-jackson-no-more.html)

Here is another one...

http://www.sawfnews.com/Gossip/58620.aspx (http://www.sawfnews.com/Gossip/58620.aspx)

Here's another...

http://www.kidglue.com/2009/06/25/micha ... rt-attack/ (http://www.kidglue.com/2009/06/25/michael-jackson-dead-suffered-a-fatal-heart-attack/)

We love you, Michael! And YES! We will be there!   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 31, 2010, 04:07:16 PM
Quote from: "mdc"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
The PRIVATE ambulance is more of an interesting detail by the way, I guess it's normal in the US to have your own private ambulance?

I don't think it means she owns her own ambulance. I think it is an ambulance you hire through a private company. Most ambulances (those associated with the local hospitals) will only deliver you to the hospital closest to your house but a private ambulance will take you to the hospital of your choice. JMO

Seriously? Can you hire an ambulance? Ok...
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: trublu on August 31, 2010, 04:09:07 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "mdc"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
The PRIVATE ambulance is more of an interesting detail by the way, I guess it's normal in the US to have your own private ambulance?

I don't think it means she owns her own ambulance. I think it is an ambulance you hire through a private company. Most ambulances (those associated with the local hospitals) will only deliver you to the hospital closest to your house but a private ambulance will take you to the hospital of your choice. JMO

Seriously? Can you hire an ambulance? Ok...

I don't know about in America but you can here in France. They get listed like taxis.
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: wishingstar on August 31, 2010, 04:28:28 PM
I find this interesting.....such a coincidence:
 
113 = Z Z G H N L T = This Is It, Propofol

I talked about this type of coincidence and TMZ on this thread....it will explain it a lot better:  

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=13708 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=13708)

Blessings Always
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: Puff on August 31, 2010, 04:41:16 PM
IMO there is a contradiction in this article....

TMZ wrote:

Quote
We've learned the person who called 911 from Gabor's house

And then:

Quote
We're told a private ambulance has taken Gabor to the hospital

They called the 911 (a public service) , but they brought her to the hospital with a private ambulance...?  :roll:


P.S
You can book an ambulance but not for the emergency, that is quite impossible...
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: MissG on August 31, 2010, 04:47:03 PM
Flu-like symptoms: Introduction


Flu-like symptoms: Flu-like symptoms appear like the flu (see symptoms of flu), which tends to be more severe than the similar cold-like symptoms. Flu-like symptoms may include fever, shivering, chills, malaise, dry...

The flu, medically known as influenza, is a common infection of the respiratory tract, including the nose, throat, bronchial tubes and lungs. The flu is caused by a virus and is very contagious. The effects of the flu can vary from mild to severe to life-threatening, depending on the type of flu and individual factors, such as age, general health status, and coexisting conditions, such as renal failure. Read more here  http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/sym/flu_like_symptoms.htm (http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/sym/flu_like_symptoms.htm)
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: trublu on August 31, 2010, 04:50:39 PM
Quote from: "Puff"
IMO there is a contradiction in this article....

TMZ wrote:

Quote
We've learned the person who called 911 from Gabor's house

And then:

Quote
We're told a private ambulance has taken Gabor to the hospital

They called the 911 (a public service) , but they brought her to the hospital with a private ambulance...?  :roll:


P.S
You can book an ambulance but not for the emergency, that is quite impossible...


Wow good point!
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: StrangerInCalifornia on August 31, 2010, 07:12:46 PM
Quote from: "trublu"
Quote from: "Puff"
IMO there is a contradiction in this article....

TMZ wrote:

Quote
We've learned the person who called 911 from Gabor's house

And then:

Quote
We're told a private ambulance has taken Gabor to the hospital

They called the 911 (a public service) , but they brought her to the hospital with a private ambulance...?  :roll:


P.S
You can book an ambulance but not for the emergency, that is quite impossible...


Wow good point!
I probably wouldn't have even noticed this had you not pointed it out....good work! :)
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: paula-c on August 31, 2010, 08:01:00 PM
"We're told a private ambulance has taken Gabor to the hospital, without emergency lights flashing ... an indication her life is not in immediate danger. "


The 911 call, the private ambulance and lights, good observation .. Puff and Harvey. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: mjboogie on August 31, 2010, 09:52:46 PM
Good catch! Dam I just really do not know what to make of TMZ! Because honestly,,,,,that statement was not even necessary? It's like they are saying " Hey look here MJ fans...check this out..But we know they read the forums soooo
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: *Mo* on September 01, 2010, 12:39:28 AM

Here's the first article TMZ published about Zsa Zsa Gabor:

Quote
Zsa Zsa Gabor Rushed Back to Hospital
8/31/2010 10:50 AM PDT by TMZ Staff  

TMZ has learned ... Zsa Zsa Gabor is being rushed back to UCLA Medical Center.

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/08/17/0817-zsa-zsa-ex-getty.jpg)

Zsa Zsa's husband, Prince Frederic von Anhalt, tells TMZ, "I just called an ambulance.  She has to go back to UCLA."

The Prince says the 93-year-old Zsa Zsa was unresponsive and clearly in distress.

An ambulance is on the scene after 911 was called.

No word yet on the nature of the emergency.

Story developing...

http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/31/zsa-zsa-g ... halt-ucla/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/31/zsa-zsa-gabor-hospital-hospitalized-prince-freceric-von-anhalt-ucla/)
Here it says that Zsa Zsa's husband called an ambulance, because Zsa Zsa was unresponsive and clearly in distress.  In the second article Zsa Zsa's condition is described as flu-like symptoms and body pain.  IMO unresponsive and clearly in distress is more severe than flu-like symptoms and body pain.

The second article has been updated:

Quote
UPDATE: Zsa Zsa's publicist, John Blanchette, tells TMZ the doctors have stabilized Gabor's condition -- though she's still undergoing certain tests."

Blanchette tells us he's "hopeful she'll be released tonight."
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: MJonmind on September 01, 2010, 01:13:12 AM
They've never said "flu-like illness" in regards to MJ. However with all these cases that had these symptoms, I'm wondering if Harvey's implying that there's a Hollywood killer or deadly virus on the loose! :o  I always loved to hear Zsa Zsa talking with her air of sophistication.
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: dejavu on September 01, 2010, 01:20:49 AM
Jacko Ahead of Curve on Swine Flu
4/28/2009 8:38 AM PDT by TMZ Staff  

If the swine flu has an extended incubation period, Michael Jackson is the most protected man in America ... but he's also just gone over the deep edge, even for him.

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2009/04/28/0428_jackson_tmz_video-1.jpg)

Jacko took his kids shopping at Ed Hardy yesterday, and in a move stranger than his get-up, he took off with one of the store's tatted-up mannequins!

http://www.tmz.com/2009/04/28/jacko-ahe ... swine-flu/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/04/28/jacko-ahead-of-curve-on-swine-flu/)
:geek:
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: *Mo* on September 01, 2010, 01:21:06 AM
Quote from: "MJonmind"
They've never said "flu-like illness" in regards to MJ. However with all these cases that had these symptoms, I'm wondering if Harvey's implying that there's a Hollywood killer or deadly virus on the loose! :o  I always loved to hear Zsa Zsa talking with her air of sophistication.

Mike was hospitalized with "flu-like illness" during the trial.

[youtube:3fgqom5k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P1jm9NApKQ[/youtube:3fgqom5k]
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: bec on September 01, 2010, 02:28:28 AM
Omg it WAS a dummy in the ambulance!  :o  profound moment of realization.

MJ chartered an ambulance and the 45 min the paramedics were in the house was to convince them to take the dummy to UCLA, oh and here, sign this non disclosure form, oh and here's a check for $30,000 for performing as a movie set extra... "Dr." Murray sweet talked them into it by "taking responsibility" for the patient. "Ok, but we can't put on the lights, it's not a real emergency..." So after a little convincing (you'll do pretty much anything wacky for 30 grand), they entubulate the dummy and wisk it off to UCLA, "Dr." Murray and bodyguards in tow and the show begins.

All a theory of course.
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: ijcsly on September 01, 2010, 05:39:34 AM
Quote from: "bec"
Omg it WAS a dummy in the ambulance!  :o  profound moment of realization.

MJ chartered an ambulance and the 45 min the paramedics were in the house was to convince them to take the dummy to UCLA, oh and here, sign this non disclosure form, oh and here's a check for $30,000 for performing as a movie set extra... "Dr." Murray sweet talked them into it by "taking responsibility" for the patient. "Ok, but we can't put on the lights, it's not a real emergency..." So after a little convincing (you'll do pretty much anything wacky for 30 grand), they entubulate the dummy and wisk it off to UCLA, "Dr." Murray and bodyguards in tow and the show begins.

All a theory of course.

but a bloody good theory , nonetheless!
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: paula-c on September 01, 2010, 09:44:45 AM
I always ask that to the photo of the mannequin in the news. 8-)
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: LadyMedic on September 01, 2010, 10:15:37 AM
Quote from: "*Mo*"

What on earth is with the "flu-like symptoms"..?  I have seen that too many times during the past year, and flu-like symptoms is not something one normally gets hospitalized for.
Flu-like symptoms is a general term used to describe someone who is calling with just that, flu-like symptoms. So when the person has multiple complaints such as nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, dehydration, not being able to keep things down, weakness, malaise, vertigo, sore throat, fever, etc. that's the "flu-like symptoms" type of thing. It's sort of a catch all. And we get called for that more than you know... lol. But seriously, in the elderly it can certainly be dangerous.

As for the private ambulance thing, it just means a private ambulance company. For example, AMR is a private commercial ambulance service, but LAFD is not a private company, they are city.

As for transporting with or without l&s, it's entirely up to the medic or tech in the back whether they want to transport with or without. I could have two different patients with "flu-like symptoms" and transport one with and one without. It just depends. I look at whether or not this person needs a hospital immediately, and do I want to risk running lights and sirens. I mean, if I have a person who is having a STEMI, obviously I'm not going to waste any time and I want them to the hospital yesterday, so I'll definitely go with lights and sirens. But if someone has been sick for a few days and nothing has really changed within those few days, I'm not going with lights and sirens.
So nothing specifically dictates when you have to or don't have to transport with lights and sirens, but there are instances where it's common sense, such as a STEMI or a stroke patient with an onset of less than (usually) 3 hours.
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: Glinda on September 01, 2010, 02:12:21 PM
Quote from: "bec"
Omg it WAS a dummy in the ambulance!  :o  profound moment of realization.

MJ chartered an ambulance and the 45 min the paramedics were in the house was to convince them to take the dummy to UCLA, oh and here, sign this non disclosure form, oh and here's a check for $30,000 for performing as a movie set extra... "Dr." Murray sweet talked them into it by "taking responsibility" for the patient. "Ok, but we can't put on the lights, it's not a real emergency..." So after a little convincing (you'll do pretty much anything wacky for 30 grand), they entubulate the dummy and wisk it off to UCLA, "Dr." Murray and bodyguards in tow and the show begins.

All a theory of course.

And after that we go to the coroner  8-)
http://www.depers.nl/UserFiles/Image/20 ... er.425.jpg (http://www.depers.nl/UserFiles/Image/2007/200711/20071126/dokter.bibber.425.jpg) Just a theory of course..
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: paula-c on September 01, 2010, 02:52:09 PM
:lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: Glinda on September 01, 2010, 04:10:38 PM
Mo&So: Why don't you have spoilertags on this forum??
Dr Bibber is now full exposed :o










 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: *Mo* on September 01, 2010, 04:15:57 PM
Quote from: "Glinda"
Mo&So: Why don't you have spoilertags on this forum??
Dr Bibber is now full exposed :o

 :mrgreen:

Nu niet meer  ;)
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: Glinda on September 01, 2010, 04:41:27 PM
Thanx 8-)
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: cin_pyt on September 01, 2010, 05:10:43 PM
OH HECK YEAH AMBULANCE LIGHTS NOT FLASHING AND THE AMBULANCE BACKING OUT ALL SLOWLY YUP SIGN OF A NON LIFE THREATENING SITUATION. OBVIOUSLY LET'S SAY IF MJ WAS REALLY DEAD IN AMBULANCE I DOUBT THE AMBULANCE WOULD BE BACKING OUT SLOWLY AND NOT HAVE THE LIGHTS FLASHING THEY'D GO FASTER CUS COME ON IT'S A HIGH PROFILE PERSON YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO TAKE NO PICS. NOW, THERE'S A REASON FOR THE AMBULANCE TO BACK OUT SLOWLY AND THAT WAS FOR YOUR FAMOUS AMBULANCE PIC THAT WE'VE CONCLUDED IS A FAKE. KEEP DA FAITH HE'S ALIVE :D
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: LadyMedic on September 01, 2010, 05:11:59 PM
Quote from: "cin_pyt"
OH HECK YEAH AMBULANCE LIGHTS NOT FLASHING AND THE AMBULANCE BACKING OUT ALL SLOWLY YUP SIGN OF A NON LIFE THREATENING SITUATION. OBVIOUSLY LET'S SAY IF MJ WAS REALLY DEAD IN AMBULANCE I DOUBT THE AMBULANCE WOULD BE BACKING OUT SLOWLY AND NOT HAVE THE LIGHTS FLASHING THEY'D GO FASTER CUS COME ON IT'S A HIGH PROFILE PERSON YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO TAKE NO PICS. NOW, THERE'S A REASON FOR THE AMBULANCE TO BACK OUT SLOWLY AND THAT WAS FOR YOUR FAMOUS AMBULANCE PIC THAT WE'VE CONCLUDED IS A FAKE. KEEP DA FAITH HE'S ALIVE :D
The lights are on. Look again.
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: Empathy on September 01, 2010, 06:43:20 PM
Has anybody seen this report, I picked it up on google thought you might like to view it :!:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healt ... order.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7967815/Swine-flu-vaccine-safety-probed-over-link-to-rare-sleep-disorder.html)


Swine flu vaccine safety probed over link to rare sleep disorder
The safety of a swine flu vaccine is to be investigated by European drugs regulators after it was linked to a rare condition that causes people to fall asleep suddenly.
 

By Rebecca Smith, Medical Editor
Published: 2:38PM BST 27 Aug 2010
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: dontmakeitfactual on September 01, 2010, 07:30:47 PM
Quote from: "Empathy"
Has anybody seen this report, I picked it up on google thought you might like to view it :!:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healt ... order.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7967815/Swine-flu-vaccine-safety-probed-over-link-to-rare-sleep-disorder.html)


Swine flu vaccine safety probed over link to rare sleep disorder
The safety of a swine flu vaccine is to be investigated by European drugs regulators after it was linked to a rare condition that causes people to fall asleep suddenly.
 

By Rebecca Smith, Medical Editor
Published: 2:38PM BST 27 Aug 2010

Thank you! There's a thread on this already if you'd like to read :)

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=13639 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=13639)
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: angel on September 02, 2010, 10:36:52 PM
TMZ article from 2/16/07.....Zsa Zsa "spends her days in a gated Bel Air home once owned by Elvis Presley."
http://www.tmz.com/2007/02/16/zsa-zsa-p ... f-bel-air/ (http://www.tmz.com/2007/02/16/zsa-zsa-prisoner-of-bel-air/)   ;)
Title: Re: Zsa Zsa Goes to Hospital -- Not Life-Threatening
Post by: Glinda on September 03, 2010, 03:50:51 AM
also
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/z ... 5rh0ThWVcN (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/zsa_zsa_gabor_husband_wants_to_plastinate_uCL5mDaPd3Mk5rh0ThWVcN)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... ezing.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1195750/Michael-Jackson-set-plastinated-missing-deadline-cryogenic-freezing.html)

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