Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Theories => The Numbers Theory => Topic started by: Miss-Zazi95 on August 27, 2010, 10:26:18 AM
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I know Michael read alot, so may be it inspired him for the hoax !
(Verily, the likeness of Jesus before Allah is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then He said to him: "Be!" - and he was.) [Al-Imran: 59].
In examining this verse, we notice that God Almighty tells us that Jesus Christ, like Adam (pbuh), was created without a father. Similarly, both were Prophets, and both presented a miracle in the way in which their exemplary morals and behaviour were different from those of ordinary people.
What is interesting is that this connection between Jesus and Adam is not merely confined to the meaning of the verse as explained above. This connection even exists with regards to the various mentions of both Jesus and Adam in the Qur’an.
To explain further, if we look for the word ‘Jesus’ in the Qur’an, we find that it is mentioned 25 times in the Qur’an. Similarly, if we look at the mention of ‘Adam’ in the Qur’an, we find, again, that it is mentioned exactly 25 times!
Now, reflecting on the various verses where Jesus and Adam are mentioned, we find that the previous verse – (Verily, the likeness of Jesus before Allah is the likeness of Adam) - is the only verse in the Qur’an where both Jesus and Adam were mentioned collectively. In no other verse do the two names meet; this gives the verse a pivotal importance in our discussion.
Furthermore, and amazingly enough, the number of times the word Adam was mentioned from the beginning of the Qur’an up to this crucial verse is 7 times, and the number of times Jesus was mentioned from the beginning of the Qur’an up to this verse is also 7 times!
To better illustrate this beautiful consistency, each of the 25 verses mentioning Jesus and Adam are listed below in their order of appearance in the Qur’an:
1 - And he taught Adam all the names
2 - He said : O Adam! Inform them of their names
3 - Prostrate yourselves before Adam
4 - O Adam! Dwell thou and thy wife in the Garden
5 - Then Adam received Words from his Lord
6 - Indeed! God chose Adam
7 - Verily, the likeness of Jesus before Allah is the likeness of Adam
8 - Recite to them the truth of the story of the two sons of Adam
9 - Then We bade the angels bow down to Adam
10 - O Adam! Dwell thou and thy wife in the Garden
11 - O Children of Adam! We have bestowed raiment upon you
12- O Children of Adam! Let not Satan deceive you
13 - O Children of Adam! Look to your adornment at every place of worship
14 - O Children of Adam! If there come to you Messengers
15 - And (remember) when thy Lord brought forth from the Children of Adam
16 - Prostrate to Adam
17 - Verily We have honoured the Children of Adam
18 - Prostrate to Adam
19 - of the offspring of Adam
20 - And indeed We made a covenant with Adam before
21 - Prostrate yourselves to Adam
22 - O Adam! Verily, this is an enemy to you and to your wife
23 - O Adam! Shall I lead you to the Tree of Eternity
24 - Thus did Adam disobey his Lord, so he went astray
25 - Did I not ordain for you, O Children of Adam, that you should not worship Satan
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1 - We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear Signs
2 - and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord
3 - to Jesus the son of Mary We gave clear (Signs)
4 - Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a word from Him, whose name is the Messiah, Jesus
5 - Then when Jesus came to know of their disbelief
6 - O Jesus! I will take you and raise you to Myself
7 - Verily, the likeness of Jesus before Allah is the likeness of Adam
8 - and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord
9 - And because of their saying : We killed the Messiah Jesus son of Mary
10 - we sent inspiration to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes, to Jesus
11 - The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah
12 - We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him
13 - by the tongue of David and of Jesus the son of Mary
14 - O Jesus , son of Mary! Remember My favour unto thee and unto thy mother
15 - O Jesus the son of Mary! can thy Lord send down to us a table spread
16 - Jesus, son of Mary, said: O Allah, our Lord
17 - O Jesus, son of Mary! Didst thou say unto mankind: Worship me and my mother
18 - And Zachariah and John and Jesus and Elias
19 - Such is Jesus, son of Mary
20 - and from Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus
21 - that which We commended unto Abraham and Moses and Jesus
22 - When Jesus came with Clear Signs
23 - We sent after them Jesus the son of Mary
24 - And remember Jesus the son of Mary
25 - As said Jesus the son of Mary to the Disciples
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More connections :
Number of letters (arabic) in the expression "the likeness of Jesus" where Jesus is stated :
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7859/70030308.jpg)
Number of letters (arabic) in the expression "is the likeness of Adam" where Adam is stated :
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6038/87741226.jpg)
There are 7 words (arabic) in the expression (Verily, the likeness of Jesus before Allah is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then He said to him: "Be!" - and he was.) [Al-Imran: 59] we studied previously :
(http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/4836/58612288.jpg)
The name (arabic) of Surat that contains this expression (Verily, the likeness of Jesus before Allah is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then He said to him: "Be!" - and he was.) [Al-Imran: 59] also contains 7 letters (arabic)
(http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/3789/22017467.jpg)
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More sevens this is a great find. Thank you to have brought this on here. :)
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More sevens this is a great find. Thank you to have brought this on here. :)
You're welcome ! I was pretty shoked when I discoverd that ! :shock:
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I have read about this a few months ago and I really got goosebumps. Not just because of the connection between Michael and this number theory but especially because of the perfectness of the Qoran.
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I have read about this a few months ago and I really got goosebumps. Not just because of the connection between Michael and this number theory but especially because of the perfectness of the Qoran.
Yeees :o
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I also find that very amazing! We have the same Creator who rules and has orchestrated ALL things. Thanks for posting it.
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I also find that very amazing! We have the same Creator who rules and has orchestrated ALL things. Thanks for posting it.
I agree.
You're welcome
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I have read about this a few months ago and I really got goosebumps. Not just because of the connection between Michael and this number theory but especially because of the perfectness of the Qoran.
Yeees :o
The perfection of God's words and creation really goes beyond our imagination. ;)
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I have read about this a few months ago and I really got goosebumps. Not just because of the connection between Michael and this number theory but especially because of the perfectness of the Qoran.
Yeees :o
The perfection of God's words and creation really goes beyond our imagination. ;)
There's still alot to learn from that book.
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I have read about this a few months ago and I really got goosebumps. Not just because of the connection between Michael and this number theory but especially because of the perfectness of the Qoran.
Yeees :o
The perfection of God's words and creation really goes beyond our imagination. ;)
There's still alot to learn from that book.
I think Michael had studied the Quran as well, I guess.
Hey you're from Morocco right? I had the greatest time in 'L'bled' this summer! :D
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I have read about this a few months ago and I really got goosebumps. Not just because of the connection between Michael and this number theory but especially because of the perfectness of the Qoran.
Yeees :o
The perfection of God's words and creation really goes beyond our imagination. ;)
There's still alot to learn from that book.
I think Michael had studied the Quran as well, I guess.
Hey you're from Morocco right? I had the greatest time in 'L'bled' this summer! :D
Yes, I am :P
In which city did you stay ?
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Do you guys know about the Mathematical Miracle in the Quran? This mathematical code proves beyond doubt that only God can have written this Book. The key number is 19. I don't understand why it is not known worldwide especially since everybody can check it for him/herself. Go here if you want more information and of course check for yourself: http://www.submission.org/miracle/index.html (http://www.submission.org/miracle/index.html)
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Do you guys know about the Mathematical Miracle in the Quran? This mathematical code proves beyond doubt that only God can have written this Book. The key number is 19. I don't understand why it is not known worldwide especially since everybody can check it for him/herself. Go here if you want more information and of course check for yourself: http://www.submission.org/miracle/index.html (http://www.submission.org/miracle/index.html)
Thanks for posting this link.
No doubt that this book God's masterpiece.
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I have read about this a few months ago and I really got goosebumps. Not just because of the connection between Michael and this number theory but especially because of the perfectness of the Qoran.
Yeees :o
The perfection of God's words and creation really goes beyond our imagination. ;)
There's still alot to learn from that book.
I think Michael had studied the Quran as well, I guess.
Hey you're from Morocco right? I had the greatest time in 'L'bled' this summer! :D
Yes, I am :P
In which city did you stay ?
I stayed in Tanger, Nador and Tetouan. I havent been there in 2 years so it was really nice to spend quality time with my family there and to enjoy my beautiful country! :D
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@Sarahli, thanks for your post but Im not really sure how reliable the number 19 wonder is but the Holy Quran in undeniably full of miracles, likd the fact that the farao was going be perserved for later genarations and this was already mentioned in the Quran.
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@Sarahli, thanks for your post but Im not really sure how reliable the number 19 wonder is but the Holy Quran in undeniably full of miracles, likd the fact that the farao was going be perserved for later genarations and this was already mentioned in the Quran.
You know a lot of people don't actually believe that the Quran is God's word and the fact that you have stated is not enough for them, they just say that the prophet was capable to predict things or something to that sort.
The mathematical code proves, as I said, beyond all doubts that this Book cannot, absolutely cannot have been written by a human being. I have studied the code enough to know that it's the truth and this is God's work, it cannot be dismissed. I know that many Muslims will say but God is capable to preserve His book without the need of a mathematical code and it's true but this code is The physical Proof that people always cry for, it's The Miracle people claim and when it's in front of them they just deny it, as always. I think that this is also a test aiming to see if people are true believers or not and I'm sorry to say that but in the muslim world there are a lot of disbelievers who actually think that they are real believers. The Islam of today has nothing to do with the Islam preached by prophet Mohammed.
Also the person who has discovered this undeniable evidence (Rashad Khalifa) has been assasinated (like a lot of messengers sent by God) because it didn't fit the needs or wishes of the "Muslim Scholars". Why? Because what this code reveals us, among other things, is that only the Quran has to be taken as a Guide, absolutely no other book. But what has actually happened in the Muslim world is that some people invented Hadiths, the so called sayings of the prophet, compiled 200 years after his death by the way (how accurate can it be?). Hence they don't follow the Quran but these false sayings of the prophet and even placed them as "equivalent" of the Quran, as "necessary" to undersand God's book :o (some of them are offensive and contradict the Quran) they created false laws that any sane person would find abnormal. They finally are not true believers and this is God who says that, not me.
I am one who stands for the truth, for God and I don't fear to say these things considering the fact that I'm Muslim and that what I have said is not accepted by the vast majority of Muslims. I would even been considered as an apostate...
Faith is not just an empty claim, there are people who actually utter things that they don't have in the heart. Our faith is constantly been put under test and God knows best. To me this code is part of the test. Really you should investigate and study this code further, it is more than worth it, this is a real and great Miracle of GOD for Humanity and it's a shame that it is not known. God bless you Dancing_Machine.
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I stayed in Tanger, Nador and Tetouan. I havent been there in 2 years so it was really nice to spend quality time with my family there and to enjoy my beautiful country! :D
I was around last January. I spent my summer mainly in Marrakech and Casablanca.
I live in El Jadida by the way :)
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Well said Sarahli :!: :!:
I couldn't hav said it better !
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Well said Sarahli :!: :!:
I couldn't hav said it better !
Wow thank you Miss-Zazi95 I'm happy that you agree with me because some people did not always agreed with what I've said (Muslim people). God bless you billions of times!
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Well said Sarahli :!: :!:
I couldn't hav said it better !
Wow thank you Miss-Zazi95 I'm happy that you agree with me because some people did not always agreed with what I've said (Muslim people). God bless you billions of times!
God bless you too :)
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@Sarahli, thanks for your post but Im not really sure how reliable the number 19 wonder is but the Holy Quran in undeniably full of miracles, likd the fact that the farao was going be perserved for later genarations and this was already mentioned in the Quran.
You know a lot of people don't actually believe that the Quran is God's word and the fact that you have stated is not enough for them, they just say that the prophet was capable to predict things or something to that sort.
The mathematical code proves, as I said, beyond all doubts that this Book cannot, absolutely cannot have been written by a human being. I have studied the code enough to know that it's the truth and this is God's work, it cannot be dismissed. I know that many Muslims will say but God is capable to preserve His book without the need of a mathematical code and it's true but this code is The physical Proof that people always cry for, it's The Miracle people claim and when it's in front of them they just deny it, as always. I think that this is also a test aiming to see if people are true believers or not and I'm sorry to say that but in the muslim world there are a lot of disbelievers who actually think that they are real believers. The Islam of today has nothing to do with the Islam preached by prophet Mohammed.
Also the person who has discovered this undeniable evidence (Rashad Khalifa) has been assasinated (like a lot of messengers sent by God) because it didn't fit the needs or wishes of the "Muslim Scholars". Why? Because what this code reveals us, among other things, is that only the Quran has to be taken as a Guide, absolutely no other book. But what has actually happened in the Muslim world is that some people invented Hadiths, the so called sayings of the prophet, compiled 200 years after his death by the way (how accurate can it be?). Hence they don't follow the Quran but these false sayings of the prophet and even placed them as "equivalent" of the Quran, as "necessary" to undersand God's book :o (some of them are offensive and contradict the Quran) they created false laws that any sane person would find abnormal. They finally are not true believers and this is God who says that, not me.
I am one who stands for the truth, for God and I don't fear to say these things considering the fact that I'm Muslim and that what I have said is not accepted by the vast majority of Muslims. I would even been considered as an apostate...
Faith is not just an empty claim, there are people who actually utter things that they don't have in the heart. Our faith is constantly been put under test and God knows best. To me this code is part of the test. Really you should investigate and study this code further, it is more than worth it, this is a real and great Miracle of GOD for Humanity and it's a shame that it is not known. God bless you Dancing_Machine.
Amin, may God bless you too!
The ironic thing is that God shows signs in our daily lives wich proof that the Quran is really God's word and that it absolutely cant be written by any human being. The signs are everywhere around us, not just in mathematical codes, wich are beyond perfection, but also in literally words as in Surah Ar-Rahman for example.
Just like you, I think that these signs are also a test for people to show their real acknowledgement for God's creation. And indeed, there are a lot of people who claim to be true Muslims while they don't even show respect to what God's had created for us. And that's a reason why I love chapter Ar-Rahman, especially the repeated verse "Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?"
As for the number 19, I still have my doubts about it. But to be honest, I havent really studied well. So I think I have to do that ;) .
May I ask you from wich country you're from, Sarahli?
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I stayed in Tanger, Nador and Tetouan. I havent been there in 2 years so it was really nice to spend quality time with my family there and to enjoy my beautiful country! :D
I was around last January. I spent my summer mainly in Marrakech and Casablanca.
I live in El Jadida by the way :)
I've never been in Marrakesh, I was planning to go there this year but unfortunetely I havent, so maybe next year. El Jadida is in the area of Rabat right? I don't live in Morocco and I only go there in the summer, I really want to go some time in the winter around january. Is it cold in Morocco in january? :geek:
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I stayed in Tanger, Nador and Tetouan. I havent been there in 2 years so it was really nice to spend quality time with my family there and to enjoy my beautiful country! :D
I was around last January. I spent my summer mainly in Marrakech and Casablanca.
I live in El Jadida by the way :)
I've never been in Marrakesh, I was planning to go there this year but unfortunetely I havent, so maybe next year. El Jadida is in the area of Rabat right? I don't live in Morocco and I only go there in the summer, I really want to go some time in the winter around january. Is it cold in Morocco in january? :geek:
No, not really, well for Moroccan people it is, around 10 degrees.
El Jadida is 200 Km from Rabat.
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@Sarahli, thanks for your post but Im not really sure how reliable the number 19 wonder is but the Holy Quran in undeniably full of miracles, likd the fact that the farao was going be perserved for later genarations and this was already mentioned in the Quran.
You know a lot of people don't actually believe that the Quran is God's word and the fact that you have stated is not enough for them, they just say that the prophet was capable to predict things or something to that sort.
The mathematical code proves, as I said, beyond all doubts that this Book cannot, absolutely cannot have been written by a human being. I have studied the code enough to know that it's the truth and this is God's work, it cannot be dismissed. I know that many Muslims will say but God is capable to preserve His book without the need of a mathematical code and it's true but this code is The physical Proof that people always cry for, it's The Miracle people claim and when it's in front of them they just deny it, as always. I think that this is also a test aiming to see if people are true believers or not and I'm sorry to say that but in the muslim world there are a lot of disbelievers who actually think that they are real believers. The Islam of today has nothing to do with the Islam preached by prophet Mohammed.
Also the person who has discovered this undeniable evidence (Rashad Khalifa) has been assasinated (like a lot of messengers sent by God) because it didn't fit the needs or wishes of the "Muslim Scholars". Why? Because what this code reveals us, among other things, is that only the Quran has to be taken as a Guide, absolutely no other book. But what has actually happened in the Muslim world is that some people invented Hadiths, the so called sayings of the prophet, compiled 200 years after his death by the way (how accurate can it be?). Hence they don't follow the Quran but these false sayings of the prophet and even placed them as "equivalent" of the Quran, as "necessary" to undersand God's book :o (some of them are offensive and contradict the Quran) they created false laws that any sane person would find abnormal. They finally are not true believers and this is God who says that, not me.
I am one who stands for the truth, for God and I don't fear to say these things considering the fact that I'm Muslim and that what I have said is not accepted by the vast majority of Muslims. I would even been considered as an apostate...
Faith is not just an empty claim, there are people who actually utter things that they don't have in the heart. Our faith is constantly been put under test and God knows best. To me this code is part of the test. Really you should investigate and study this code further, it is more than worth it, this is a real and great Miracle of GOD for Humanity and it's a shame that it is not known. God bless you Dancing_Machine.
Amin, may God bless you too!
The ironic thing is that God shows signs in our daily lives wich proof that the Quran is really God's word and that it absolutely cant be written by any human being. The signs are everywhere around us, not just in mathematical codes, wich are beyond perfection, but also in literally words as in Surah Ar-Rahman for example.
Just like you, I think that these signs are also a test for people to show their real acknowledgement for God's creation. And indeed, there are a lot of people who claim to be true Muslims while they don't even show respect to what God's had created for us. And that's a reason why I love chapter Ar-Rahman, especially the repeated verse "Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?"
As for the number 19, I still have my doubts about it. But to be honest, I havent really studied well. So I think I have to do that ;) .
May I ask you from wich country you're from, Sarahli?
Thanks for this. It's funny that you quote this chapter and verse precisely I had made a post about it, if you are interested: viewtopic.php?f=72&t=12426&start=75 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=12426&start=75).
Well really if you have time try to study the code, this is God's miracle after all :D . I am from Algerian descents was born and always lived in France.
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Have to read it when i get the time!
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Have to read it when i get the time!
It's a must read ! It will blow your mind :)
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I stayed in Tanger, Nador and Tetouan. I havent been there in 2 years so it was really nice to spend quality time with my family there and to enjoy my beautiful country! :D
I was around last January. I spent my summer mainly in Marrakech and Casablanca.
I live in El Jadida by the way :)
I've never been in Marrakesh, I was planning to go there this year but unfortunetely I havent, so maybe next year. El Jadida is in the area of Rabat right? I don't live in Morocco and I only go there in the summer, I really want to go some time in the winter around january. Is it cold in Morocco in january? :geek:
No, not really, well for Moroccan people it is, around 10 degrees.
El Jadida is 200 Km from Rabat.
10 degrees does sound cold :lol: but I would love to visit Morocco in the winter some time.
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@Sarahli, thanks for your post but Im not really sure how reliable the number 19 wonder is but the Holy Quran in undeniably full of miracles, likd the fact that the farao was going be perserved for later genarations and this was already mentioned in the Quran.
You know a lot of people don't actually believe that the Quran is God's word and the fact that you have stated is not enough for them, they just say that the prophet was capable to predict things or something to that sort.
The mathematical code proves, as I said, beyond all doubts that this Book cannot, absolutely cannot have been written by a human being. I have studied the code enough to know that it's the truth and this is God's work, it cannot be dismissed. I know that many Muslims will say but God is capable to preserve His book without the need of a mathematical code and it's true but this code is The physical Proof that people always cry for, it's The Miracle people claim and when it's in front of them they just deny it, as always. I think that this is also a test aiming to see if people are true believers or not and I'm sorry to say that but in the muslim world there are a lot of disbelievers who actually think that they are real believers. The Islam of today has nothing to do with the Islam preached by prophet Mohammed.
Also the person who has discovered this undeniable evidence (Rashad Khalifa) has been assasinated (like a lot of messengers sent by God) because it didn't fit the needs or wishes of the "Muslim Scholars". Why? Because what this code reveals us, among other things, is that only the Quran has to be taken as a Guide, absolutely no other book. But what has actually happened in the Muslim world is that some people invented Hadiths, the so called sayings of the prophet, compiled 200 years after his death by the way (how accurate can it be?). Hence they don't follow the Quran but these false sayings of the prophet and even placed them as "equivalent" of the Quran, as "necessary" to undersand God's book :o (some of them are offensive and contradict the Quran) they created false laws that any sane person would find abnormal. They finally are not true believers and this is God who says that, not me.
I am one who stands for the truth, for God and I don't fear to say these things considering the fact that I'm Muslim and that what I have said is not accepted by the vast majority of Muslims. I would even been considered as an apostate...
Faith is not just an empty claim, there are people who actually utter things that they don't have in the heart. Our faith is constantly been put under test and God knows best. To me this code is part of the test. Really you should investigate and study this code further, it is more than worth it, this is a real and great Miracle of GOD for Humanity and it's a shame that it is not known. God bless you Dancing_Machine.
Amin, may God bless you too!
The ironic thing is that God shows signs in our daily lives wich proof that the Quran is really God's word and that it absolutely cant be written by any human being. The signs are everywhere around us, not just in mathematical codes, wich are beyond perfection, but also in literally words as in Surah Ar-Rahman for example.
Just like you, I think that these signs are also a test for people to show their real acknowledgement for God's creation. And indeed, there are a lot of people who claim to be true Muslims while they don't even show respect to what God's had created for us. And that's a reason why I love chapter Ar-Rahman, especially the repeated verse "Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?"
As for the number 19, I still have my doubts about it. But to be honest, I havent really studied well. So I think I have to do that ;) .
May I ask you from wich country you're from, Sarahli?
Thanks for this. It's funny that you quote this chapter and verse precisely I had made a post about it, if you are interested: http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpb ... 6&start=75 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=12426&start=75).
Well really if you have time try to study the code, this is God's miracle after all :D . I am from Algerian descents was born and always lived in France.
I have read your post in that thread, and I have just one word to say: soubhanAllah!
Wow that calculation is so interesting! I'm going to reseach that further, when I found some more I will let you know.
Nice you're North African as well, I'm Moroccan.
My grandparents and my mother grew up in Algeria. They were Moroccan immigrants in Algeria. :)
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I was born and still live in Morocco :D
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I think this part explains well how a mathematically encoded book must be written:
"MATHEMATICALLY COMPOSED LITERATURE
Suppose you are asked to write a book with the stipulation that:
1.Chapter 3 is to contain exactly 532 of the letter `S'.
2.Chapter 8 is to contain exactly 209 B's, and 779 T's.
3.Chapter 6 is to contain exactly 133 of the letter combination `ING.'
4.And the total number of sentences must be exactly 57,152.
You will then try to write this hypothetical book, carefully counting and keeping track of those letters and the number of sentences in order to conform with the specifications given to you. As you conform to these specifications, you must write down words and sentences that make sense and tell the reader something important having to do with the subject of your book. This is a simple example of mathematical composition.
These specifications can be increased or decreased to create varying degrees of complexity. The specific counts of certain letters, numbers of specific phrases, numbers of sentences and totals of verse numbers can soon become so interlocking that it becomes virtually impossible to compose such a book."
http://www.submission.org/miracle/history.html (http://www.submission.org/miracle/history.html)
It is obviously not possible for a human mind. Which of your Lord's marvels can you deny?
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Did you know that 7 was mentioned exactly 7 times in the Quran :o
We all know about the connection between Michael and this number, and as stated before, this number symbolizes perfection not only in the Bible but also in the Quran, so my question is : Do you guys think that MJ was somehow 'chosen' ? (not saying he's a prophet sent by God or something)
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Did you know that 7 was mentioned exactly 7 times in the Quran :o
We all know about the connection between Michael and this number, and as stated before, this number symbolizes perfection not only in the Bible but also in the Quran, so my question is : Do you guys think that MJ was somehow 'chosen' ? (not saying he's a prophet sent by God or something)
My thought is that maybe Michael is a messenger (not a prophet) because a messenger confirms the last scriptures but actually doesn't bring a new one. Therefore I thought that maybe Michael was chosen to purify the Bible and consolidate the faith in one and the same God for all religions (Jewish, Christian and Muslim) and for the whole world too. But a messenger has to show a divine proof, a sign for that we believe him without any doubt. Therefore I thought that maybe Michael was given the code to unlock information/revelation from the Bible and restore Jesus' teachings, God's true Word before the 2012 event which I think is about retribution. This is my theory. But it's just a theory and I wonder how/when we will know if there is truth in all this messengership/messianship issue...
I have also doubts because the Quran is not mentionned/alluded to in this hoax despite the fact that it's God's Word without the shadow of a doubt. If there was a mention of it I would be more sure about my theory but I doubt more and more.
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What I meant is that may be one of those special people (not a messenger or prophet to whom was sent a real proof from God)
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Did you know that 7 was mentioned exactly 7 times in the Quran :o
We all know about the connection between Michael and this number, and as stated before, this number symbolizes perfection not only in the Bible but also in the Quran, so my question is : Do you guys think that MJ was somehow 'chosen' ? (not saying he's a prophet sent by God or something)
Maybe Michael had read about the mathematical perfection of the Holy Quran and the significance of the number 7 in Islam. I think that intrigued Michael to use this number in his (art)work, so I believe it's the other way round. But on the other hand Michael is spreading a message, a message of peace, awareness of what's truly going on in the world and of praising and remembering God. I'm not sure if we can call that 'chosen', but we can't deny that some people have and had a leading role in spreading the same message, people like Malcolm X for example.
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@Sarahli:
7+2+2+8 = 19
…He has counted the numbers of all things (72:28)
:shock:
http://www.masjidtucson.org/publication ... page1.html (http://www.masjidtucson.org/publications/books/SP/2000/may/page1.html)
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This is a must see! When I saw this a couple of months ago, I got goosebumps from head to toes.
[youtube:3o98ejtl]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxSECWeVoKc[/youtube:3o98ejtl]
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@Sarahli:
7+2+2+8 = 19
…He has counted the numbers of all things (72:28)
:shock:
http://www.masjidtucson.org/publication ... page1.html (http://www.masjidtucson.org/publications/books/SP/2000/may/page1.html)
Yes and there are so many things like that just proving the intricacy of this code in the Quran. This is amazing isn't it? :D
For fun I have tried with my date of birth; I was born the 7/2/1981 it gives this numer 721981 and it is a multiple of 19 ha ha, 721981/19 = 37999 or 19 x 37999; :D don't know if it means someting though :lol:
Thank you for the video Dancing_Machine there are definitely no coincidences! I had seen things about the number 1,618 another God' signature in the Universe. This is truly amazing when you think about it! Glory to the LORD.
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@Dancing_Machine
I understund your point about Michael and 7. But he had a thing for this number way before learning about Islam as the number of letters in both of his name and surname, being the 7th child, and other things related to his songs for example Billie Jean was at the top 40 for 7 weeks same for Black or white. believe those are things he couldn't control.
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@Sarahli:
7+2+2+8 = 19
…He has counted the numbers of all things (72:28)
:shock:
http://www.masjidtucson.org/publication ... page1.html (http://www.masjidtucson.org/publications/books/SP/2000/may/page1.html)
Yes and there are so many things like that just proving the intricacy of this code in the Quran. This is amazing isn't it? :D
For fun I have tried with my date of birth; I was born the 7/2/1981 it gives this numer 721981 and it is a multiple of 19 ha ha, 721981/19 = 37999 or 19 x 37999; :D don't know if it means someting though :lol:
Thank you for the video Dancing_Machine there are definitely no coincidences! I had seen things about the number 1,618 another God' signature in the Universe. This is truly amazing when you think about it! Glory to the LORD.
Its more than amazing, it goes beyooooooond amazing! :D
The whole creation of the universe and everything that's in it is created by a perfect measure.
I'm now listening to a beautiful recitation of Surah Ar-Rahman by Ahmed Al Ajami (my favorite recitor) and I can't stop thinking of the amazing wonders of this particuler chapter.
Just some I can think of right now:
Verse 6:
"...And the herbs (or stars) and the trees both prostrate." :
(http://www.miraclesofislam.com/treerukubetter.jpg)
Verse 20-21:
"He has let loosed the two seas (the salt water and the sweet) meeting together.
Between them is a barrier which none of them can transgress. ":
http://www.quranmiracles.com/articles.asp?id=47 (http://www.quranmiracles.com/articles.asp?id=47)
"Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny?" :D
LOL this has not much to do with Michael anymore :lol: , but I just find this sooooooo interesting
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@Dancing_Machine
I understund your point about Michael and 7. But he had a thing for this number way before learning about Islam as the number of letters in both of his name and surname, being the 7th child, and other things related to his songs for example Billie Jean was at the top 40 for 7 weeks same for Black or white. believe those are things he couldn't control.
Maybe he found the link between him and the number 7 and he discovered the meaning of the number 7 in the Quran and the Bible?
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OMGGGGGGGG ! Never seen that before !! :o :o :o
This is absolutely a HUGE evidence of Islam being God's true religion (no offense no other religions of course :D otherwise I'll making God mad at me lo, anyway)
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OMGGGGGGGG ! Never seen that before !! :o :o :o
This is absolutely a HUGE evidence of Islam being God's true religion (no offense no other religions of course :D otherwise I'll making God mad at me lo, anyway)
You know the Torah, the Bible and the Quran are all God's Books. Messengers have been sent in all parts of the world to spread God's message, therefore there is a common root in all of them. God is the Creator of all of us, absolutely all. It's written in the Quran, the final testament that all religions preaching faith in the One God (like Islam) are accepted by Him. Submission to God is the true religion and it encompasses true Chritianity, true Judaism and true Islam. The problem is that religions have been hijacked/twisted and I think that 2012 is a kind of big "cleansing".
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OMGGGGGGGG ! Never seen that before !! :o :o :o
This is absolutely a HUGE evidence of Islam being God's true religion (no offense no other religions of course :D otherwise I'll making God mad at me lo, anyway)
You know the Torah, the Bible and the Quran are all God's Books. Messengers have been sent in all parts of the world to spread God's message, therefore there is a common root in all of them. God is the Creator of all of us, absolutely all. It's written in the Quran, the final testament that all religions preaching faith in the One God (like Islam) are accepted by Him. Submission to God is the true religion and it encompasses true Chritianity, true Judaism and true Islam. The problem is that religions have been hijacked/twisted and I think that 2012 is a kind of big "cleansing".
Yes, I agree with you. I didn't mean in my post that I don't believe in the other books or religions, I definitely do, and as you all know, it's part of our faith. I also believe that Judaism, Christianity and Islam have the same purpose but as you stated before in your last post, God's words have been twisted which make Islam's authenticity more reliable, because there's ONE UNIQUE Quran, ONE UNIQUE way to pray, ONE UNIQUE way to fast ...
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OMGGGGGGGG ! Never seen that before !! :o :o :o
This is absolutely a HUGE evidence of Islam being God's true religion (no offense no other religions of course :D otherwise I'll making God mad at me lo, anyway)
You know the Torah, the Bible and the Quran are all God's Books. Messengers have been sent in all parts of the world to spread God's message, therefore there is a common root in all of them. God is the Creator of all of us, absolutely all. It's written in the Quran, the final testament that all religions preaching faith in the One God (like Islam) are accepted by Him. Submission to God is the true religion and it encompasses true Chritianity, true Judaism and true Islam. The problem is that religions have been hijacked/twisted and I think that 2012 is a kind of big "cleansing".
Yes, I agree with you. I didn't mean in my post that I don't believe in the other books or religions, I definitely do, and as you all know, it's part of our faith. I also believe that Judaism, Christianity and Islam have the same purpose but as you stated before in your last post, God's words have been twisted which make Islam's authenticity more reliable, because there's ONE UNIQUE Quran, ONE UNIQUE way to pray, ONE UNIQUE way to fast ...
Yes the Quran is the only scripture that has not been twisted thanks to God and it should normally reconcile all religions, all people who have eyes to see and think for themselves, if only they took heed. The code is there for that because it's undeniable evidence. Hard solid evidence! All doubts should vanish. Unfortunately it's not the case. I'm sure they don't even read it (just a few) and Muslims themselves, the vast majority, is not aware of that code. Well that's just the way it is.
No worries I have understood your post sometimes I'm off-topic, and I agree that Islam is God's true religion, Islam means beautiful things like "peace" and Muslim = submitted (to God). ;)
God bless you Miss-Zazi95 :D
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OMGGGGGGGG ! Never seen that before !! :o :o :o
This is absolutely a HUGE evidence of Islam being God's true religion (no offense no other religions of course :D otherwise I'll making God mad at me lo, anyway)
You know the Torah, the Bible and the Quran are all God's Books. Messengers have been sent in all parts of the world to spread God's message, therefore there is a common root in all of them. God is the Creator of all of us, absolutely all. It's written in the Quran, the final testament that all religions preaching faith in the One God (like Islam) are accepted by Him. Submission to God is the true religion and it encompasses true Chritianity, true Judaism and true Islam. The problem is that religions have been hijacked/twisted and I think that 2012 is a kind of big "cleansing".
Yes, I agree with you. I didn't mean in my post that I don't believe in the other books or religions, I definitely do, and as you all know, it's part of our faith. I also believe that Judaism, Christianity and Islam have the same purpose but as you stated before in your last post, God's words have been twisted which make Islam's authenticity more reliable, because there's ONE UNIQUE Quran, ONE UNIQUE way to pray, ONE UNIQUE way to fast ...
Yes the Quran is the only scripture that has not been twisted thanks to God and it should normally reconcile all religions, all people who have eyes to see and think for themselves, if only they took heed. The code is there for that because it's undeniable evidence. Hard solid evidence! All doubts should vanish. Unfortunately it's not the case. I'm sure they don't even read it (just a few) and Muslims themselves, the vast majority, is not aware of that code. Well that's just the way it is.
No worries I have understood your post sometimes I'm off-topic, and I agree that Islam is God's true religion, Islam means beautiful things like "peace" and Muslim = submitted (to God). ;)
God bless you Miss-Zazi95 :D
Yes, some muslims are muslims just because their parents and grandparents are. I think every peron on earth should question everything, including religion. I keep searching and learning about Islam, and I'm convinced more than ever that this mathematical code plays an important role to show people that the Quran is a miracle from God.
Take a look at this video : http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150095999438868
She's Christian, and she has everything right about Islam. In contrary of what people think, Judaism, Christianity and Islam don't condradict themselves.
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Another connection concerning the number 7, lay back and enjoy : :D
We'll see an amazing system for the repetition of ‘Jesus the son of Merriam’. It is clear numeric miracle confirms the divine source of Holy Quran….
If you want to know who is Jesus (peace be upon him), then read the Koran! You know why, because Koran is the sole holy book that contains all certain realities. Likewise, we notice that Allah has put in the name of prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) a great numeric miracle, which unveils the numeric language of Koran, for we must be sure that Koran is Right. This miracle is based on number seven and its multiples; the latter is another proof that Koran has been revealed by the Lord of the seven heavens, Hallowed be Him.
In this research, we use the method of ‘arranging the numbers’, which is in fact a mathematic method called ‘the decimal series’, i.e. each limit is multiplied ten times than the preceding limit; or in other words, in this research we read the numbers like they are and do not gather them.
An amazing system for the repetition of ‘Jesus the son of Mary '
When we look for the word ‘Issah’ (Jesus) in the Koran, we find that it was repeated all in all 25 times, and the word ‘son’ was mentioned 35 times, and finally the word Mary was mentioned 34 times. We write these numbers arranged in this way:
Mary the son of Jesus
عيسى ابن مريم
34 35 25
The number which represents the repetitions of these words is a multiple of seven:
25 35 34 = 7 × 49075
The same can be said for the letters of ‘Jesus the son of Mary ' ‘Jesus’ contains 4 letters, ‘the son of’ contains 3 and ‘Mary’ contains 4.
Mary the son of Jesus
عيسى ابن مريم
4 3 4
434 = 7 × 62
You see ! we have discovered a wonderful system special to the name of Jesus ‘Jesus the Son of Merriam’ , yet there are forms for this same name as ‘The Messiah the son of Mary' , so is there another perfect system for this form?
A marvellous system for the repetition of ‘The Messiah the son of Mary' ound in the Koran:
‘The Messiah’ is repeated 11 times in the Koran whereas ‘The son of’ is cited 35 times and ‘Mary' as we saw it is mentioned 34 times. Let us write these words and the numbers for which they are repeated in this way:
Mary the son of The Messiah
المسيح ابن مريم
34 35 11
The resulting number, i.e. 113534, is a multiple of seven!Accordingly, I claim that the repetition of the expression ‘The Messiah the son of Mary'agrees with the koranic system based on number seven.
Allah says in The Women chapter, verse 171: ‘Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an Apostle of Allah’. As I have been reading this divine description of Jesus, I noticed that the letters of this expression : Christ Jesus the son of Mary was an Apostle of Allah, agree in a wonderful way with number seven. We write the expression and the number of letters:
Christ Jesus the son of Mary [was (no more than)] an Apostle [of] Allah
The resulting number is again a multiple of seven:
444346 = 7 × 63478
Now look at the surprising remark: if we gather the numbers constituting this number, we will have number 25:
6 + 4 + 3 + 4 + 4 + 4 = (25)
25 represents the repetitions of the word ‘ Jesus’ in the Koran, and the number 63478, what results if we divide 444346 by 7, is a multiple of seven and 34; 34 represents how many time ‘Merriam’ was repeated in the Koran:
63478 = 34 × 1867
Another miraculous system for the repeating of ‘Mary'
Look at these agreements between the word ‘Mary’, ‘Messiah’ and ‘Jesus’; all these words’ repetitions consist of an accurate system based on number seven. We know that Mary is Jesus’ mother (peace be upon them all), so what can relate the two:
Messiah Mary
11 34
1134 is a number multiple of 7:
1134 = 7 × 162
we do the same for the words ‘Merriam’ and ‘Jesus’, we will have:
Jesus Mary
25 34
And 2534 is another number that is multiple of 7:
2534 = 7 × 362
We try now to gather the three words’ repetitions:
34 + 11 + 25 = 70
Awesome! Isn’t it? Number 70 is a multiple of seven: 70=7*10
And even the gathering of the words ‘Messiah’ ‘Jesus’ ‘The son of’ ‘Mary'
will give a number multiple of 7:
11 + 25 + 35 + 34 = 105
105 = 7 × 15
And we reask the same question:
Is it possible to come across such wonderful, accurate system? It is God The Almighty who has created everything; it is He who has organised the realities, for they would witness His oneness, witness that Jesus The Son of Mary is Allah’s word and spirit .
This system (based on seven) of the repetition of Jesus’ name in the Koran coordinating with seven is a strong testimony that what dear prophet Mohamed (peace be upon him) brought is about the same thing dear prophet Jesus brought. It proves that Allah , the All-Knowing has organised the name of this prophet according to system based on 7,to tell us that the One who has revealed the Koran is the Lord of the seven heavens, Hallowed be Him from what they say.
You, dear reader, if you want really to read the real bible then read the Holy Koran!
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More 7's in Islam:
- The 7 Heavens
- The Tawaf: walking 7 times around the Kaaba
- Pilgrims also walk/run between Mount Safa and Mount Marwah seven times.
- Pilgrims are also required to throw seven pebbles at each of the three walls representing the Devil.
- First surah is Al-Fatihah with 7 verses.
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More 7's in Islam:
- The 7 Heavens
- The Tawaf: walking 7 times around the Kaaba
- Pilgrims also walk/run between Mount Safa and Mount Marwah seven times.
- Pilgrims are also required to throw seven pebbles at each of the three walls representing the Devil.
- First surah is Al-Fatihah with 7 verses.
Exactly !