Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Persons Of Interest => Everyone Else => Karen Faye => Topic started by: DancingTheDream on August 10, 2010, 04:52:40 PM

Title: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: DancingTheDream on August 10, 2010, 04:52:40 PM
Someone asked Karen in twitter about this letter:

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Why did you take away your love, the same love that made me unable to speak and made me forget my manners, the love that saved me?
Tell me, did I come to short? Wasn't I enough? Have I done or said something wrong?
I believe in miracles and (black line) angels. I know you escaped through heaven's gates to enlighten me.
I believe in faith, deep inside I feel that nature has bounded us.
I have seen nothing but misery in my life until (black line)
All those years I have been seeking to give while I only desire now to receive from you.
Your heart commanded me to follow while my soul was hurt and my mind confused.
I allowed you to take possesion of my feelings. In return, I loved, obeyed and honoured you beyond words.
I revealed myself to you in ways from which I thought they were impossible.
I saw and still see you as my soulmate, as my wife and as the mother of my fourth child.

This was her response:


# wingheart
 
Re:letter. If authentic, it is none of our business. If fake, who cares? about 5 hours ago via Twitterrific

   
# wingheart
 
@popcorncandys it appears to be similar to his handwriting, but I have no way of authenticating for you.

http://twitter.com/wingheart (http://twitter.com/wingheart)

According to another forum, (copy and paste - i dont have the link to the article or where this article has come from:

it's a newspaper article, claiming to have spoken with a previous girlfriend of Michael, who could "prove" this with a love letter
The title is We're getting the facts right. Is this the prove that J**o was not gay?
Former girlfriend shows proof.

The writer asks why she comes forward while she wants to remain anonymous.
She tells she is tired of the lies and the filthy press. She wants the world to see and know Michael for who he really was. She is not looking for publicity or money.
She tells he always was a loving person, very sweet, always concerned, nervous type, cared for and wanted to save the entire world.
She refused to answer to intimate questions concerning their relationship, if they had sex etc.
She says people who accused him from all these bad things should go straight to prison or hell.
She says they broke him, hurt him so much, he was lost when she met him the first time. He feared to trust.
She also tells about how much he loved the fans, how much they meant to Michael, how much he talked about the fans and how he missed the fans during the years he was gone. Then she talks about Michael and children, that he lived for children. There is also a part about Neverland. She never went there. She never asked Michael to go there with her. She did view pictures of Neverland from before the accusations.

That is the article in short. No much news.
Next weekend is part 2 of the story and they promise the continue of the letter!
At the end it says that the lady refused money for the interview and her name and intimate details in the letter have been removed to keep her anonymity.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on August 10, 2010, 05:00:13 PM
I does look like MJ's scribbles as i like to call them
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: Bee Bee on August 10, 2010, 05:01:22 PM
Where is this letter from? Sorry for the stupid question. It looks very much like Michael's handwriting to me.

Forget it, now I know. I would like to see that article, though.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: DancingTheDream on August 10, 2010, 05:05:43 PM
Quote from: "Bee Bee"
Where is this letter from? Sorry for the stupid question. It looks very much like Michael's handwriting to me.

Forget it, now I know. I would like to see that article, though.

I found it on twitter and then noticed it on another forum...   and thats the explanation another person has posted.  Its a magazine article from somewhere, but dont know where.

EDIT..  apparently its going around facebook but originated from here: http://mjhideout.com/forum/f4/carta-esc ... 02802.html (http://mjhideout.com/forum/f4/carta-escrita-mj-102802.html)
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: MissG on August 10, 2010, 05:17:03 PM
OMG, that´s a beautiful letter  :cry:
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: truthprevails on August 10, 2010, 06:17:04 PM
Wow, that really looks like MJ's handwriting!!  The fact that he talks about a "fourth child" means that he'd already had his 3 children when he wrote this... I find this line quite striking:

I saw and still see you as my soulmate, as my wife and as the mother of my fourth child.

"I SAW and STILL see you as my soulmate"... Strong words... Somehow I doubt MJ would say this to a random girlfriend, especially in his later years?!  And his previous 3 sentences allude to a relationship that lasted for a while, not something casual... Hmm, very intriguing.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: Hazzely on August 10, 2010, 06:50:13 PM
Why is everyone coming up with everything after his "death" ?????

They had to do this before! YES KAREN, you too!

Getting pissed already!
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: 2good2btrue on August 10, 2010, 07:02:33 PM
It looks like it has been writted inside a book cover or something to that effect...

The other page on the left, has printed text......
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: Disco on August 10, 2010, 07:08:45 PM
# wingheart

Re:letter. If authentic, it is none of our business. If fake, who cares? about 5 hours ago via Twitterrific


That woman Karen Faye is so jealous of any other woman that was around Michael, She says its none of our business and yet she speaks of Michael's business all the time.....

What would bother her is that she knows nothing about it  :lol:
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: teine21 on August 10, 2010, 07:10:13 PM
Well, if Omer is really his son, that would make Blanket the fourth child & this a letter to his mother of whom MJ said he'd had a relationship & then changed his story & said she was a surrogate to maintain her privacy & keep her identity concealed. This could be to prove they were more than that & that he may have been married again, secretly which of course is none of our business but interesting & sweet nonetheless. I would love to know that he had love in his life, REAL, honest love. & what a sweet letter, only Michael could write such beautiful things straight from his heart like this :mrgreen:

As for Karen, what I think bothers her is it's NOT to her! smh.  :roll:
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 10, 2010, 07:34:03 PM
The handwriting looks forced, as if someone is trying to copy something. Look at the y's, I see 4 different versions already. Let's see how long it will take for her to file a claim that she is Mike's Baby-Momma and wants to see some $$$$...
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: voiceforthesilent on August 10, 2010, 07:37:33 PM
Quote from: "teine21"
Well, if Omer is really his son, that would make Blanket the fourth child & this a letter to his mother of whom MJ said he'd had a relationship & then changed his story & said she was a surrogate to maintain her privacy & keep her identity concealed. This could be to prove they were more than that & that he may have been married again, secretly which of course is none of our business but interesting & sweet nonetheless. I would love to know that he had love in his life, REAL, honest love. & what a sweet letter, only Michael could write such beautiful things straight from his heart like this :mrgreen:

As for Karen, what I think bothers her is it's NOT to her! smh.  :roll:


Thank you for sharing this letter. Very interesting and thought provoking comments. I think you could very well be right about Blanket being the fourth child. I agree with Hazzley, too, that I wish some of these people would have dared to speak up on Michael's behalf a long time ago. It makes me frustrated to think about that.

The fact that this person is choosing to remain anonymous and she isn't seeking any money somehow makes it more credible for me. I, too, would love to hear that Michael had found someone that he truly loved and someone who truly loved him back. The words sound like something Michael would say. They are so piercing. No comment on Karen Faye.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: Bee Bee on August 10, 2010, 07:51:47 PM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
It looks like it has been writted inside a book cover or something to that effect...

The other page on the left, has printed text......

I thought so, too, or maybe somebody scanned the supposed article and the text on the left is from the article.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: PJ4MJ on August 10, 2010, 09:24:15 PM
I'm skeptical, and the description of Michael by this person, according to the article, doesn't reveal anything new about Michael.  Any fan could have come up with the same attributes, so I'd need a lot more before putting any stock in it.

And I agree with Hazzely about all this stuff coming out after Michael's death.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 10, 2010, 09:48:04 PM
Quote from: "PJ4MJ"
I'm skeptical, and the description of Michael by this person, according to the article, doesn't reveal anything new about Michael. Any fan could have come up with the same attributes, so I'd need a lot more before putting any stock in it.

And I agree with Hazzely about all this stuff coming out after Michael's death.


Exactly why I have a feeling this could be fanfiction. It's all the "Michael is so sweet and caring and angelic". Don't get me wrong, he probably is, but you can't tell me he's like that 24/7, none of us is perfect, it would make the world boring and I bet he can be a complicated person to live with, more like a challenge if you look at what he had to endure in his life. I think that if there is a woman in his life, she has a very strong charachter, understands his charachter fully and I doubt she would go to a tabloid to let them publish his letters. That's private and should stay private, no matter what. But I could be wrong of course...
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 10, 2010, 09:54:36 PM
p.s.: Karen sold pictures to the media with personal notes, so she really should shut up. I don't know what she is doing, but it is starting to disgust me. Trying to get attention over Mike's back with her blogs and tweets. Does she have a role to play? Maybe, but I don't like the charachter.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: backstager on August 10, 2010, 10:10:04 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
p.s.: Karen sold pictures to the media with personal notes, so she really should shut up. I don't know what she is doing, but it is starting to disgust me. Trying to get attention over Mike's back with her blogs and tweets. Does she have a role to play? Maybe, but I don't like the charachter.

I couldn't agree more. There is something really shady about her. She seems like (for lack of a better word) an attention-seeker.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: Supervision on August 10, 2010, 10:19:01 PM
Could all this be something that has happened recently?
LIke after 6-25-09..anybody wants to rule that out for me
?
I have my reason suspecting it may be that Mike has been blessed with a new comer after 6-25-09. :lol:  :lol:

That I say only, based on my visions  and not any kind of hard evidence.at all.  :roll:  :roll:

when is this letter supposedly written, does anybody have a clue.
 anyway, I just wanted to share that is what I thought about when I read the letter.. since I and others also have seen Mike recently cradling a baby..and I also saw a woman having childbirth in one of my visions. :P  :P

. it would be quite  interesting woudn't it, that Mike has a new baby. Lol :)
And 2good2beture..do you remember that pregnant lady vacationing in Hawai with the Children that you posted awhile ago, when we were looking for Stella,any chance that the pregnant woman could be   the ONE? :lol:  :lol:
Either Way..what a lucky woman to have received such a sweet heartfelt letter.  Very Touching!!
Peace.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: Hazzely on August 10, 2010, 10:31:22 PM
Quote from: "backstager"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
p.s.: Karen sold pictures to the media with personal notes, so she really should shut up. I don't know what she is doing, but it is starting to disgust me. Trying to get attention over Mike's back with her blogs and tweets. Does she have a role to play? Maybe, but I don't like the charachter.

I couldn't agree more. There is something really shady about her. She seems like (for lack of a better word) an attention-seeker.

I got blocked because someone informed her I called her "attention seeker" and because I said it seems she's trying to steal Michael fans .. so I think truth hurt her

She disgusts me, regardless of whether she is in the hoax or not..

I don't understand why on earth didn't they talk b4 JUNE 25. WHY! WASN'T HE THE SAME MICHAEL JACKSON BEFORE 2009? Everything is so surreal & sad.....
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: backstager on August 10, 2010, 10:53:08 PM
Karen Faye honestly makes me want to punch a hole in my wall. She tends to spew hate at anyone who gets too close to Michael. Its disgusting really, she needs to move on. You know what? I think we should stop asking her questions. The more questions we ask, the more she opens her mouth. And she's spitting nothing but nonsense-- I can't be the only one getting tired of it.

As for the letter. I'm no handwriting analyst, so I don't know if it's Michael's or not. My gut tells me yes because of its poetic flow, but my mind is telling me its just a fan.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 10, 2010, 11:18:54 PM

If we assume this note with some Morphine lyrics on it is Mike's, then I think the letter is not his. The M is different. Interesting though is that it's the same difference as I see in some of his signatures...
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: PinkTopaz on August 10, 2010, 11:25:23 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"

If we assume this note with some Morphine lyrics on it is Mike's, then I think the letter is not his. The M is different. Interesting though is that it's the same difference as I see in some of his signatures...
That's what I thought! I wonder if this letter was written by a poor, heartbroken double or something..
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: MJonmind on August 11, 2010, 12:06:07 AM
In reading this lengthy article on MJ's love life (interview with the ladies and pics of his kids) it clearly says that Debbie was pregnant with MJ's child before Prince, and had a miscarriage. In this letter could he be counting that as his first child, and Blanket as his fourth, thus the letter is to Blanket's mom. My 2 cents.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: Sangre on August 11, 2010, 01:38:29 AM
I used to try to copy my own doctor's handwriting (LOL you know how doctors write!) and I became amazingly good at it.

That letter sounds very poetic; it's really strong - but the beginning sounds like a suicide note. :? And I agree with others, fans copy Michael Jackson's signature all the time. Maybe someone devoted a letter from Michael to themselves.  :?:   :lol: If you've read MJ fanfiction, then you'd know it could be the case.

It looks awfully similar to Michael's handwriting and if it's authentic, then Karen is probably right, it's none of our business. But who can blame us for being curious?
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: chappie on August 11, 2010, 02:44:04 AM
If it's a fake letter...so be it.
If it's a real one...perhaps it it's in a book.
Like the one Elvis wrote to explain the reason's for faking his death.
Nothing suprises me anymore..... ;)
Chappie
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: mjssoulmate on August 11, 2010, 02:48:57 AM
Quote from: "truthprevails"
Wow, that really looks like MJ's handwriting!!  The fact that he talks about a "fourth child" means that he'd already had his 3 children when he wrote this... I find this line quite striking:

I saw and still see you as my soulmate, as my wife and as the mother of my fourth child.

"I SAW and STILL see you as my soulmate"... Strong words... Somehow I doubt MJ would say this to a random girlfriend, especially in his later years?!  And his previous 3 sentences allude to a relationship that lasted for a while, not something casual... Hmm, very intriguing.

If this letter is by Michael, then I think he was talking more about a possible future with this person, as his future wife and potential mother of his fourth child.  It does not mean that Blanket is his fourth child as someone suggested.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: Sangre on August 11, 2010, 03:01:03 AM
This part "I believe in miracles and (black line) angels. I know you escaped through heaven's gates to enlighten me" tells me the letter was written to someone who died.  :?
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: farhatmjj on August 11, 2010, 04:46:52 AM
^ i thought that too.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: MissG on August 11, 2010, 10:01:41 AM
I think I remember reading in twitter someone writing congratulations to Joanna T for her baby  :) and Michael being happy....I totally forgot the name of that person but she was in some kind of "fan battle". Do any of you remember?
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: jacilovesmichael on August 11, 2010, 10:04:26 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
p.s.: Karen sold pictures to the media with personal notes, so she really should shut up. I don't know what she is doing, but it is starting to disgust me. Trying to get attention over Mike's back with her blogs and tweets. Does she have a role to play? Maybe, but I don't like the charachter.

I'm with you! She is just so rude to everyone, especially the fans, and then turns around and writes beautiful things about Michael. Her actions and words contradict each other. I just get a negative vibe from her.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: MissG on August 11, 2010, 10:13:05 AM
Idk, I could always talk to Karen Faye and got respectful answers to my questions :)
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: Sangre on August 11, 2010, 10:20:23 AM
Joanna's kid could be anybody's. As far as I'm aware, she's told her and MJ never had a sexual relationship and she was barred from Neverland after her 'little adventure' with one of the staff members. Maybe it's just a rumor? I'm not sure.


Quote from: "Gema"
Idk, I could always talk to Karen Faye and got respectful answers to my questions :)

Whenever I've talked to her, she's been OK, but she answers questions selectively.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on August 11, 2010, 10:30:09 AM
Quote from: "mjssoulmate"
If this letter is by Michael, then I think he was talking more about a possible future with this person, as his future wife and potential mother of his fourth child.  It does not mean that Blanket is his fourth child as someone suggested.
I agree with you on this. As I read this letter, I had the exact same feeling.
If this is something that Michael wrote, the phrasing implies that he envisioned, imagined, dreamed that he would have a future with this person and a fourth child.

Susan Etok also stated that Michael approached her about having a fourth child for him and she declined. There are several articles on the Internet about this and she did have a blog about it at one time (I'm not sure if she still does).

This also seems to indicate that there isn't a fourth child at this time and further suggests that neither Malachi Jackson (if he exists), Omar Bhatti or MPJ are his children.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: jacilovesmichael on August 11, 2010, 10:40:37 AM
Quote from: "Sangre"
Joanna's kid could be anybody's. As far as I'm aware, she's told her and MJ never had a sexual relationship and she was barred from Neverland after her 'little adventure' with one of the staff members. Maybe it's just a rumor? I'm not sure.


Quote from: "Gema"
Idk, I could always talk to Karen Faye and got respectful answers to my questions :)

Whenever I've talked to her, she's been OK, but she answers questions selectively.

Well I'm the one she FREAKED OUT on, on Twitter. She told me we were all delusional and that "Michaels dead - DEAL WITH IT".  :(
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: Datroot on August 11, 2010, 10:46:16 AM
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
Quote from: "Sangre"
Joanna's kid could be anybody's. As far as I'm aware, she's told her and MJ never had a sexual relationship and she was barred from Neverland after her 'little adventure' with one of the staff members. Maybe it's just a rumor? I'm not sure.


Quote from: "Gema"
Idk, I could always talk to Karen Faye and got respectful answers to my questions :)

Whenever I've talked to her, she's been OK, but she answers questions selectively.

Well I'm the one she FREAKED OUT on, on Twitter. She told me we were all delusional and that "Michaels dead - DEAL WITH IT".  :(

I thought that was so out of order and rude.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: suspicious mind on August 11, 2010, 11:06:33 AM
Quote from: "Supervision"
Could all this be something that has happened recently?
LIke after 6-25-09..anybody wants to rule that out for me
?
I have my reason suspecting it may be that Mike has been blessed with a new comer after 6-25-09. :lol:  :lol:

That I say only, based on my visions  and not any kind of hard evidence.at all.  :roll:  :roll:

when is this letter supposedly written, does anybody have a clue.
 anyway, I just wanted to share that is what I thought about when I read the letter.. since I and others also have seen Mike recently cradling a baby..and I also saw a woman having childbirth in one of my visions. :P  :P

. it would be quite  interesting woudn't it, that Mike has a new baby. Lol :)
And 2good2beture..do you remember that pregnant lady vacationing in Hawai with the Children that you posted awhile ago, when we were looking for Stella,any chance that the pregnant woman could be   the ONE? :lol:  :lol:
Either Way..what a lucky woman to have received such a sweet heartfelt letter.  Very Touching!!
Peace.


while the idea of visions is not exactly up my alley i have also had this sense about a child being involved. for some reason that remark liz taylor made about whatever her procedure was , something about a little or something. made me think of michael discribing to bashir cutting the umbilical chord. then you have the part about peach fuzz when talking about hair in the ar.

however how can that simple thing turn into a death hoax?
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: PinkTopaz on August 11, 2010, 04:02:18 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "PJ4MJ"
I'm skeptical, and the description of Michael by this person, according to the article, doesn't reveal anything new about Michael. Any fan could have come up with the same attributes, so I'd need a lot more before putting any stock in it.

And I agree with Hazzely about all this stuff coming out after Michael's death.


Exactly why I have a feeling this could be fanfiction. It's all the "Michael is so sweet and caring and angelic". Don't get me wrong, he probably is, but you can't tell me he's like that 24/7, none of us is perfect, it would make the world boring and I bet he can be a complicated person to live with, more like a challenge if you look at what he had to endure in his life. I think that if there is a woman in his life, she has a very strong charachter, understands his charachter fully and I doubt she would go to a tabloid to let them publish his letters. That's private and should stay private, no matter what. But I could be wrong of course...
(bold:)Oh-ho-ho, sometimes I wonder how true that is.. Ug.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: lisettea10mj on August 11, 2010, 05:15:03 PM
:| Why peolple are concern about this letter? He was human, he had feelings like everybody else.He express his self like a humanbeing with worries,concerned about his future, and he was afraid to loose the love of that woman.For me if it's thrue that this letter was written by him is the most adorable composition that he ever wrote; a pure love to someone that could missunderstood the way he felt.Michael was adorable he had the most pure and precious heart that i nener known."I love you Michael" and i allways will"
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: suspicious mind on August 12, 2010, 08:42:19 AM
i have to wonder if michael being so guarded about his privacy would put himself in the position of having this surface somewhere. even though he is intitled to a life just like the rest of us he would have to be concerned about every little tidbit considering what has happened to him in the past. remember that simple little list of things he wanted to get cleared up.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: DancingTheDream on August 12, 2010, 03:59:59 PM
The letter makes me sad.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on August 13, 2010, 04:03:46 PM
This could easily be a STORY that Michael thought about in his head and he was going to write a song. He has written some beautiful love songs before. Speechless for one! While his inspiration for it was love of children it is taken as a love song and he knew it was a very romantic and powerful song. That sells and appeals to women especially
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: applehead250609 on August 17, 2010, 06:11:11 PM
Hello!!!

I really dont know what to think anymore,just look here pls.It seems that the letter its genuine.Even Pearl JR. know about this letter.And the woman from this video says that there are more letter,not just one,lol  :shock:  :o
 :?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=CpejNAgxJ6k

http://www.youtube.com/user/Pearljr

LOVE
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: Dancer on August 17, 2010, 06:18:43 PM
Quote from: "applehead250609"
Hello!!!

I really dont know what to think anymore,just look here pls.It seems that the letter its genuine.Even Pearl JR. know about this letter.And the woman from this video says that there are more letter,not just one,lol  :shock:  :o
 :?: [/url]

LOVE
But what the woman who is interviewed by Pearl says is a totally different story and has nothing to do with the letter we talk about in this thread, the lady collected fan letters to Michael and published them in an book!
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 17, 2010, 06:53:17 PM
Quote from: "applehead250609"
Hello!!!

I really dont know what to think anymore,just look here pls.It seems that the letter its genuine.Even Pearl JR. know about this letter.And the woman from this video says that there are more letter,not just one,lol  :shock:  :o
 :?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=CpejNAgxJ6k

http://www.youtube.com/user/Pearljr

LOVE

Yeah, well stop the discussion all! Because if Pearl jr. says so it must be true! After all she is the one that saw him in person one time and he even waved at her!  :o
 :?
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: jacilovesmichael on August 17, 2010, 09:20:05 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "applehead250609"
Hello!!!

I really dont know what to think anymore,just look here pls.It seems that the letter its genuine.Even Pearl JR. know about this letter.And the woman from this video says that there are more letter,not just one,lol  :shock:  :o
 :?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=CpejNAgxJ6k

http://www.youtube.com/user/Pearljr

LOVE

Yeah, well stop the discussion all! Because if Pearl jr. says so it must be true! After all she is the one that saw him in person one time and he even waved at her!  :o
 :?

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: MashMike on August 18, 2010, 02:29:43 AM
i agree with Souza, anyone who is rather experienced can copy the handwriting, it's obvious that many fans tried to do it and if anyone tries really hard he can do it,we have come across to many MJ's "letters"  with his own "handwriting" which appeared to be fake so there is not a 100% proof that it's MJ's letter and i highly doubt that the woman who was MJ's soulmate for many years will reveal that letter to a tabloid knowing what they have done to him,about Karen-cannot stand her anymore, she appears to be extremely agressive and jealous of anyone(women) realted to MJ, i don't trust her, to me shes just an attention-seeker who was just obsessed with Michael.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: katooooooo on August 18, 2010, 07:55:57 AM
ok..don't know if it's related, but i have rushka bergman (mj designer) on twitter. she tweet something strange about a letter...

This cuts very deep but the assistance and love from my friends and family have helped as well as emails from you.
about 9 hours ago via web

Reply Retweet .   It disturbs me that personal letters were taken from me and posted on the Internet. Some things should be sacred and private.
about 9 hours ago via web

i tHought it was interesting....
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: finfin on August 18, 2010, 09:49:45 AM
Quote from: "katooooooo"
ok..don't know if it's related, but i have rushka bergman (mj designer) on twitter. she tweet something strange about a letter...

This cuts very deep but the assistance and love from my friends and family have helped as well as emails from you.
about 9 hours ago via web

Reply Retweet .   It disturbs me that personal letters were taken from me and posted on the Internet. Some things should be sacred and private.
about 9 hours ago via web

i tHought it was interesting....
I think it does sound interesting as do her previous tweets in June:
   Tomorrow marks one year since my spectacular friend, Michael Jackson, left. He is with me always.
4:04 AM Jun 25th via web
Reply Retweet    Remember to expect the unexpected
9:58 PM Jun 17th via web
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: Datroot on August 18, 2010, 09:56:01 AM
At least she says he left and not 'died'.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: jacilovesmichael on August 18, 2010, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: "Datroot"
At least she says he left and not 'died'.

Well another time she said "MICHAEL IS DEAD, DEAL WITH IT!"

Seems she always wants attention by speaking in riddles but when she gets the attention she gets angry.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: finfin on August 18, 2010, 11:57:17 AM
@jacilovesmichael
Sorry to be confusing but the tweet being referred to is from Rushka Berman, please see my post in reply to Katooooooo, who thought her tweets were interesting regarding some personal letters.

Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
by finfin » Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:49 pm

katooooooo wrote:
ok..don't know if it's related, but i have rushka bergman (mj designer) on twitter. she tweet something strange about a letter...

This cuts very deep but the assistance and love from my friends and family have helped as well as emails from you.
about 9 hours ago via web

Reply Retweet . It disturbs me that personal letters were taken from me and posted on the Internet. Some things should be sacred and private.
about 9 hours ago via web

i tHought it was interesting....
I think it does sound interesting as do her previous tweets in June:
Tomorrow marks one year since my spectacular friend, Michael Jackson, left. He is with me always.
4:04 AM Jun 25th via web
Reply Retweet Remember to expect the unexpected
9:58 PM Jun 17th via web
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on August 18, 2010, 01:30:35 PM
Quote from: "finfin"
@jacilovesmichael
Sorry to be confusing but the tweet being referred to is from Rushka Berman, please see my post in reply to Katooooooo, who thought her tweets were interesting regarding some personal letters.

Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
by finfin » Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:49 pm

katooooooo wrote:
ok..don't know if it's related, but i have rushka bergman (mj designer) on twitter. she tweet something strange about a letter...

This cuts very deep but the assistance and love from my friends and family have helped as well as emails from you.
about 9 hours ago via web

Reply Retweet . It disturbs me that personal letters were taken from me and posted on the Internet. Some things should be sacred and private.
about 9 hours ago via web

i tHought it was interesting....
I think it does sound interesting as do her previous tweets in June:
Tomorrow marks one year since my spectacular friend, Michael Jackson, left. He is with me always.
4:04 AM Jun 25th via web
Reply Retweet Remember to expect the unexpected
9:58 PM Jun 17th via web
This isn`t a verified account and was only created in March. It could be her or it could be someone using her name.The letter was supposedly released by the woman who had possession of it, the woman who claims it was written to her, and it was not leaked to the press.
In my opinion, it seems that it may be someone playing on this twitter account once again.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: finfin on August 18, 2010, 01:54:32 PM
@Serenitys_Dream
Good point,  it seems there are a lot of dubious accounts on Twitter and people playing mind games
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: applehead250609 on August 18, 2010, 02:16:38 PM
Hello~!!

Yes it could be that the hand written is not Michael's,but I noticed something else on this video with Pearl.And I noticed that the people who left comments on youtube didnt saw also.In the bigining and after she finished reading the letter Pearl says:

LETTER WRITTEN BY:
MICHAEL JOE JACKSON

Love you all!!!!!
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on August 18, 2010, 09:38:17 PM
Quote from: "applehead250609"
Hello~!!

Yes it could be that the hand written is not Michael's,but I noticed something else on this video with Pearl.And I noticed that the people who left comments on youtube didnt saw also.In the bigining and after she finished reading the letter Pearl says:

LETTER WRITTEN BY:
MICHAEL JOE JACKSON

Love you all!!!!!
Pearl doesn't have any more information than the rest of us in this matter. Her sources are us and the same one's we have, the media, statements and interviews of friends and family, these forums etc.. When she has had an opportunity to speak with anyone who knows Michael or his family she never asks them "tough" questions at all.
Makes you wonder...
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: mjboogie on August 19, 2010, 08:07:03 AM
I was kinda thinking that he quite possible could have been dating Ruska Bergman? Is there any way we could at least debunk this...see if she does have a verified account?  :? Do we have a picture of the lady who claims the letter was written to her?
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: miranda on August 19, 2010, 10:48:05 AM
:shock:  :D  What a kind of story  :)

First we'd a unknown newspaper talking with an unknown woman about a letter. Letter was published by an unknown poster on an MJ Board. OK :roll:

Next a member of an unknown MJ Board claims she's the "One". For a pitty her laptop was hacked and an unknown stole the letters (why on Earth she had by mail send loveletters save in a computer file. Did she really scann loveletters into files? :shock:  How romantic :lol:

And now an unknown twitter member using a real name  try to  make us believe that she'sfinaly the One.   :?

It's a little bit much "unknowings" in this story  for my taste.:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on August 19, 2010, 10:56:46 AM
Quote from: "miranda"
:shock:  :D  What a kind of story  :)

First we'd a unknown newspaper talking with an unknown woman about a letter. Letter was published by an unknown poster on an MJ Board. OK :roll:

Next a member of an unknown MJ Board claims she's the "One". For a pitty her laptop was hacked and an unknown stole the letters (why on Earth she had by mail send loveletters save in a computer file. Did she really scann loveletters into files? :shock:  How romantic :lol:

And now an unknown twitter member using a real name  try to  make us believe that she'sfinaly the One.   :?

It's a little bit much "unknowings" in this story  for my taste.:lol: :lol:
I agree with you 110%. Nothing here is based on facts, nothing has been proven as real, fanfiction as has already been said in the thread. Provide evidence, link the story, show the original letter, name the source and provide proof, dates, photos etc. otherwise it's just another "story" without any substance.

Cheers to the unknown! 8-)  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: katooooooo on August 19, 2010, 11:09:24 AM
Quote from: "mjboogie"
I was kinda thinking that he quite possible could have been dating Ruska Bergman? Is there any way we could at least debunk this...see if she does have a verified account?  :? Do we have a picture of the lady who claims the letter was written to her?


the account is not verified, but seem legit...Her previous post was about clothes collections. http://twitter.com/RushkaBergman (http://twitter.com/RushkaBergman)
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on August 19, 2010, 11:19:02 AM
Quote from: "katooooooo"
Quote from: "mjboogie"
I was kinda thinking that he quite possible could have been dating Ruska Bergman? Is there any way we could at least debunk this...see if she does have a verified account?  :? Do we have a picture of the lady who claims the letter was written to her?


the account is not verified, but seem legit...Her previous post was about clothes collections. http://twitter.com/RushkaBergman (http://twitter.com/RushkaBergman)
Sorry that doesn't make the account legit at all. I could create an account and say I was someone, tweet a few things that may be relevant to that person etc but I still wouldn't be them. Unless the account is verified, it could be anyone.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: katooooooo on August 19, 2010, 11:31:35 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "katooooooo"
Quote from: "mjboogie"
I was kinda thinking that he quite possible could have been dating Ruska Bergman? Is there any way we could at least debunk this...see if she does have a verified account?  :? Do we have a picture of the lady who claims the letter was written to her?


the account is not verified, but seem legit...Her previous post was about clothes collections. http://twitter.com/RushkaBergman (http://twitter.com/RushkaBergman)
Sorry that doesn't make the account legit at all. I could create an account and say I was someone, tweet a few things that may be relevant to that person etc but I still wouldn't be them. Unless the account is verified, it could be anyone.

i didn't said it was legit. i said it SEEM legit...if we wait until everything about this hoax is verify, nobody will post in here.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on August 20, 2010, 01:24:56 AM
Quote from: "katooooooo"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "katooooooo"
Quote from: "mjboogie"
I was kinda thinking that he quite possible could have been dating Ruska Bergman? Is there any way we could at least debunk this...see if she does have a verified account?  :? Do we have a picture of the lady who claims the letter was written to her?


the account is not verified, but seem legit...Her previous post was about clothes collections. http://twitter.com/RushkaBergman (http://twitter.com/RushkaBergman)
Sorry that doesn't make the account legit at all. I could create an account and say I was someone, tweet a few things that may be relevant to that person etc but I still wouldn't be them. Unless the account is verified, it could be anyone.

i didn't said it was legit. i said it SEEM legit...if we wait until everything about this hoax is verify, nobody will post in here.

Quote from: "PinkBerry451"
Update: Someone on another forum sent Rushka an email through her website and asked her if she had a twitter account.

She replied by saying she did not.

Guess that mystery is now solved.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: Sangre on August 20, 2010, 03:52:24 AM
Quote from: "mjboogie"
I was kinda thinking that he quite possible could have been dating Ruska Bergman? Is there any way we could at least debunk this...see if she does have a verified account?  :? Do we have a picture of the lady who claims the letter was written to her?

I highly doubt it. Ruska always addresses Michael in a respectful manner (like an artist to an artist), not in a way a close friend would.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: mjj_fan on August 25, 2010, 10:20:40 PM
Does someone remember heismypeterpan update? the thread was locked , twitter account closed and a member related to that account some how  friend or dont know  exactly , left the forum ? remember she  was planning to reveal  herself to media to prove Mj wasnt perverted  and some of her prediction comes true ? could it be  her sending letters to media? fruit for thought
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on August 26, 2010, 12:02:38 AM
Quote from: "mjj_fan"
Does someone remember heismypeterpan update? the thread was locked , twitter account closed and a member related to that account some how  friend or dont know  exactly , left the forum ? remember she  was planning to reveal  herself to media to prove Mj wasnt perverted  and some of her prediction comes true ? could it be  her sending letters to media? fruit for thought

There is no story in the media about this though, I and others have searched and searched; it just doesn't exist. The story originated on another forum...
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: Hopeless on August 26, 2010, 03:15:42 AM
In this pic from Ruska's Homepage is she in the middle with a baby in her arms that looks very much like Blanket.
The way she is standing is exact the way on this pic.
http://twoforfashion.otto.de/wp-content ... Rushka.jpg (http://twoforfashion.otto.de/wp-content/uploads/Rushka.jpg)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Go1ceNIFccA/S ... 030750.jpg (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Go1ceNIFccA/SnGnjSPQrII/AAAAAAAABDk/_n7Q10j81gI/s320/L1030750.jpg)

http://www.rushkabergman.com/art2.php (http://www.rushkabergman.com/art2.php)

In an interview she speak of many years that she knew Michael, in an article i found since 2007.....i don't know if two ppl are so closed after 2 years.
Maybee they are together ? She is a very intelligent and beautyfull women.
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: MissG on August 26, 2010, 05:55:03 AM
Quote from: "Hopeless"
In this pic from Ruska's Homepage is she in the middle with a baby in her arms that looks very much like Blanket.


http://www.rushkabergman.com/art2.php (http://www.rushkabergman.com/art2.php)


Is she the one in the middle with the baby?
At first I thought the face was Michael´s  :?
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: Hopeless on August 26, 2010, 06:05:26 AM
Yes Gema, the women in the middle with the baby is Rushka.
Here a pic from her :
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... _Dress.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Rushka_Bergman_Red_Dress.jpg)
Title: Re: Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
Post by: suspicious mind on August 26, 2010, 07:51:57 AM
know what. my mother has a refrigerator magnet with a child that looks like blanket on it from feed the children.straws straws straws. let it be. why can't that one little thing be his and only his?
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