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Title: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: Hazzely on August 08, 2010, 05:45:57 PM
Credits given to @TITOholics

TITOholics
ATTENTION: If you love ANIMALS ---->>REPORT this Facebook PAGE NOW!!!!

It is sick. In case you don't know how to report it, there's an option on FB:

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Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: tabloidburn on August 08, 2010, 05:54:29 PM
i don't believe this! how sick are people???

reported for violence.
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: mumof3 on August 08, 2010, 06:01:43 PM
Omg I just cantbelieve what I have seen will report this
Thankyou for pointing this out the police need to be involved it is just evil
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: mykidsmum on August 08, 2010, 06:03:39 PM
If anyone is sensitive like I am and do not want to be up all night worrying about what they saw, don't click the link and do NOT write anything on these people's wall...that is what they want.  I contacted PETA and gave them the info.  Hazely, next time, don't post it here.  We don't need to see this and it only does what these people want!  If you ever ever find something like that again, contact facebook yourself and then contact PETA...here is the link and put it in your favorites.  This site tells you what to do without spreading it around.
http://www.peta.org/actioncenter/onlinecruelty.asp (http://www.peta.org/actioncenter/onlinecruelty.asp)  It doesn't take everyone here on this forum to fix it...it only takes one person.
Hazzely...I'm adding to my post because I am really physically sick over what I saw.  That was not fair of you, you should have put a better warning that that.  I am really upset with you.  I hope you take it down.  You don't need all of us to do something proactive.  Please think before you spread Evil.
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: Hazzely on August 08, 2010, 06:03:45 PM
Quote from: "mumof3"
Omg I just cantbelieve what I have seen will report this
Thankyou for pointing this out the police need to be involved it is just evil

I agree this is a serious issue :S Some organizations should take care of this :S
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: mumof3 on August 08, 2010, 06:06:35 PM
no hazzly you did the right thing I will have nightmares but we have to see the evil to stop it spread the word and stop these basterds now
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: Hazzely on August 08, 2010, 06:09:25 PM
Quote from: "mykidsmum"
If anyone is sensitive like I am and do not want to be up all night worrying about what they saw, don't click the link and do NOT write anything on these people's wall...that is what they want.  I contacted PETA and gave them the info.  Hazely, next time, don't post it here.  We don't need to see this and it only does what these people want!  If you ever ever find something like that again, contact facebook yourself and then contact PETA...here is the link and put it in your favorites.  This site tells you what to do without spreading it around.
http://www.peta.org/actioncenter/onlinecruelty.asp (http://www.peta.org/actioncenter/onlinecruelty.asp)  It doesn't take everyone here on this forum to fix it...it only takes one person.

I didn't write on their wall i just reported it
If admins think this should be locked then so be it..and I'll apologize for bringing it here..until then please report that FB page
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: Loveneverfeltsogood on August 08, 2010, 06:09:49 PM
I can't believe it, those fu**ing bastards should be in jail !! and their followers too :evil:
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: mumof3 on August 08, 2010, 06:14:47 PM
I say out loud you have done the right thing people need to know michael would stop them we have to stop them if we can I am just going to give my furry friend a cuddle how can those monsters do this and be proud god help us all there really is evil out there
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: mykidsmum on August 08, 2010, 06:18:06 PM
For everyone reporting this....Next time, report directly to PETA, do NOT report the facebook page to facebook because facebook may remove it before PETA has a chance to investigate!  Here is the link for everyone if anyone comes across something like this on their own.
http://www.peta.org/actioncenter/onlinecruelty.asp
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: loma on August 08, 2010, 06:22:54 PM
I was physically sick seeing these pictures.
I can't stop sobbing.
I'm removing the link. If PETA was informed, it's enough to remove this.
No more people need to be mentally harmed by this shit.
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: 2 Bad on August 08, 2010, 06:23:30 PM
I am so glad I read the thread before clicking anything!
I am an animal lover, I have raised and shown my dogs for over 30 years. I am not a breeder per se.
 BUT to think that PETA is a good thing!!!!
NO!!! They are not! They want domestic animals (that means your kitty Fluffy and your doggy Toto) to not be born. They do not want anybody to have pets.
PETA has killed more pets than you will believe! PETA and HSUS are both phoney fronts stealing your money and your grandmothers money so that the next time you want a pet you won't find any. They work behind the scenes with legislators and bit by bit they are making it very hard for people that do have dogs.
I am against any type of cruelty so don't get me wrong, but there are ways to deal with this without PETA.
Remember PETA was raising hell with MJ too a few times!
Please don't get swept up in the garbage they are twisting using your heart strings.
If the site has bad stuff there are different ways of dealing with them.
Perhaps you can report the lnk to facebook without going to the page?
I don't know much about FB.
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: mumof3 on August 08, 2010, 06:31:27 PM
No the page can't be reported PETA need to know the animals are being tortured  PETA would need to know
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: Jude on August 08, 2010, 06:34:33 PM
Quote from: "2 Bad"
I am so glad I read the thread before clicking anything!
I am an animal lover, I have raised and shown my dogs for over 30 years. I am not a breeder per se.
 BUT to think that PETA is a good thing!!!!
NO!!! They are not! They want domestic animals (that means your kitty Fluffy and your doggy Toto) to not be born. They do not want anybody to have pets.
PETA has killed more pets than you will believe! PETA and HSUS are both phoney fronts stealing your money and your grandmothers money so that the next time you want a pet you won't find any. They work behind the scenes with legislators and bit by bit they are making it very hard for people that do have dogs.
I am against any type of cruelty so don't get me wrong, but there are ways to deal with this without PETA.
Remember PETA was raising hell with MJ too a few times!
Please don't get swept up in the garbage they are twisting using your heart strings.
If the site has bad stuff there are different ways of dealing with them.
Perhaps you can report the lnk to facebook without going to the page?
I don't know much about FB.


Greenpeace is another phony organization as well, it's all about the money.
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: Hazzely on August 08, 2010, 06:38:09 PM
Was it taken down alrdy?? It takes me to my homepage
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: voiceforthesilent on August 08, 2010, 06:38:52 PM
Thanks everyone for the information and the warnings. I didn't click on this either because I'd probably be horrified beyond belief. I will pray for quick intervention. Thanks to all of you that took measures to stop this abuse. It's my belief that any abuse is a sign of a troubled soul who would not stop with only animals.
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: mumof3 on August 08, 2010, 06:43:24 PM
It was unbearable but it does go on we just have to aware
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: hesouttamylife on August 08, 2010, 06:44:06 PM
Didn't click the link.  But will report the page.  Hopefully something can be done about it.  I would hate for anything to happen to my pet.  I can only imagine what is shown there.  So sad.  What is wrong with the human race?  What is wrong with us :(
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: paula-c on August 08, 2010, 06:54:35 PM
Please someone explain to me, I can not see anything
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: Hazzely on August 08, 2010, 07:09:55 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
Please someone explain to me, I can not see anything

the page was taken down  
but can we see the cache version of the page on FB? It wouldn't let me.. There was a comment with their personal information someone posted there to report them.
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: mykidsmum on August 08, 2010, 07:10:08 PM
Quote from: "2 Bad"
I am so glad I read the thread before clicking anything!
I am an animal lover, I have raised and shown my dogs for over 30 years. I am not a breeder per se.
 BUT to think that PETA is a good thing!!!!
NO!!! They are not! They want domestic animals (that means your kitty Fluffy and your doggy Toto) to not be born. They do not want anybody to have pets.
PETA has killed more pets than you will believe! PETA and HSUS are both phoney fronts stealing your money and your grandmothers money so that the next time you want a pet you won't find any. They work behind the scenes with legislators and bit by bit they are making it very hard for people that do have dogs.
I am against any type of cruelty so don't get me wrong, but there are ways to deal with this without PETA.
Remember PETA was raising hell with MJ too a few times!
Please don't get swept up in the garbage they are twisting using your heart strings.
If the site has bad stuff there are different ways of dealing with them.
Perhaps you can report the lnk to facebook without going to the page?
I don't know much about FB.
first of all, any better ideas?  Second of all, I don't agree with all they do or do to people, but in this situation, they were the best people who could help...second of all, they deserved to give MJ some grief.  I don't believe MJ should have owned those animals.  I think seeing bubbles in that place he is in now can give us some idea of why he shouldnt and he never visited bubbles since he gave him away! not to mention his two giraffes are now dead!  If you can't make sure that you can take care of these animals or make provisions for them until their death, you shouldn't own them to begin with!  MJ was a collecter, not a "dad" to these animals and that is why PETA was on his case.
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: Jude on August 08, 2010, 07:13:37 PM
Did anyone find out where the page was set up? I'm glad I did'nt watch it, sadistic bastards!
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: Jude on August 08, 2010, 07:22:23 PM
Quote from: "mykidsmum"
Quote from: "2 Bad"
I am so glad I read the thread before clicking anything!
I am an animal lover, I have raised and shown my dogs for over 30 years. I am not a breeder per se.
 BUT to think that PETA is a good thing!!!!
NO!!! They are not! They want domestic animals (that means your kitty Fluffy and your doggy Toto) to not be born. They do not want anybody to have pets.
PETA has killed more pets than you will believe! PETA and HSUS are both phoney fronts stealing your money and your grandmothers money so that the next time you want a pet you won't find any. They work behind the scenes with legislators and bit by bit they are making it very hard for people that do have dogs.
I am against any type of cruelty so don't get me wrong, but there are ways to deal with this without PETA.
Remember PETA was raising hell with MJ too a few times!
Please don't get swept up in the garbage they are twisting using your heart strings.
If the site has bad stuff there are different ways of dealing with them.
Perhaps you can report the lnk to facebook without going to the page?
I don't know much about FB.
first of all, any better ideas?  Second of all, I don't agree with all they do or do to people, but in this situation, they were the best people who could help...second of all, they deserved to give MJ some grief.  I don't believe MJ should have owned those animals.  I think seeing bubbles in that place he is in now can give us some idea of why he shouldnt and he never visited bubbles since he gave him away! not to mention his two giraffes are now dead!  If you can't make sure that you can take care of these animals or make provisions for them until their death, you shouldn't own them to begin with!  MJ was a collecter, not a "dad" to these animals and that is why PETA was on his case.



MJ was a collecter, not a "dad" to these animals and that is why PETA was on his case.




I think he tried to be one to Bubbles, but he got too big and strong. Wild animales are never a good idea, their not happy, you're not happy, whats the point.
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: tabloidburn on August 08, 2010, 07:31:31 PM
page is obviously gone! good job!

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: paula-c on August 08, 2010, 07:40:59 PM
Hazzely thanks for explaining, it is very unpleasant to these things they are happening.
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: mykidsmum on August 08, 2010, 07:45:16 PM
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
page is obviously gone! good job!

 :mrgreen:
lol, do you know how easy it is to make a new one?  They will have another one in an hour, heck, in 10 minutes if they want!  The point is, alert authorities so they can do something about it before you alert facebook so they can see it and get the evidence they need to find these people and prosecute!  Now it's down and gone! Lets pray someone in authority saw it before it was taken down and these sick people will pay!
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: Hazzely on August 08, 2010, 07:57:23 PM
Quote from: "mykidsmum"
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
page is obviously gone! good job!

 :mrgreen:
lol, do you know how easy it is to make a new one?  They will have another one in an hour, heck, in 10 minutes if they want!  The point is, alert authorities so they can do something about it before you alert facebook so they can see it and get the evidence they need to find these people and prosecute!  Now it's down and gone! Lets pray someone in authority saw it before it was taken down and these sick people will pay!

Yes let's hope the people in charge of closing FB pages took action and reported them.. :?
Still! That page was there for a long time and there's a FB page against it: http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000-Firm ... 2626315160 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000-Firmas-para-denunciar-al-grupo-DILE-SI-AL-MALTRATO-ANIMAL/432626315160)

I guess they already reported it somewhere
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: paula-c on August 08, 2010, 08:14:23 PM
It's really the question here is not whether the page is or is not, the question is to alert the authorities or someone who can do something.
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on August 08, 2010, 08:58:02 PM
I'm glad the link was removed before I've seen this.
Everytime I see animal cruelty, i get really really depressed.
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: GirlInTheMirror on August 08, 2010, 11:15:40 PM
I´m glad I didn´t see the page, after having read the posts (also was the link already removed). I bet I would have had sleeping problems as well.
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: Stranger In Chi-town on August 08, 2010, 11:28:21 PM
OMG! I hope they are reported and charged to the largest extent of the law! These sickos don't have anything else better to do with their time than to practice this &^%$???!
 :evil:  :evil:  :cry:
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: RK on August 08, 2010, 11:40:16 PM
I am a person who starts crying when I see trucks taking animals to the meat works for slaughter so I am very glad to have not seen this. I voiced my complaint but did not open the link . :cry:
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: SoundOfCrescendo on August 09, 2010, 12:46:09 AM
I'm glad I came after the link was gone. I get SOO Effing pissed off when I see animal cruelty. .______.
At least the page was taken down.  Just thinking about this makes me mad. >.<
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: loma on August 09, 2010, 12:53:04 AM
Note: I do not have a weak stomach, but that... wow.
I'm hugging my doggy and I advise that you do not even TRY and find the link.
Not worth the emotional pain.
I'm glad the page is down. Thanks Soldiers of Love. :)
Maybe someone should have contacted the Humane Society?
Or is there something wrong with them too?   :|
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: MashMike on August 09, 2010, 03:19:25 AM
i can't see the link to that page, can someone give me the link plz??
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: mumof3 on August 09, 2010, 03:42:56 AM
Trust me you would not want too see the link  but animal torture was involved and filmed it happens I am afraid we have to watch out for it a andnprotect creatures
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: MashMike on August 09, 2010, 03:51:56 AM
how horrible can people be?!i mean those freaks are not even considered to be human beings, they are just beasts, monsters and need a serious help, i wish they were arrested and tortured as they torture poor animals, by the way i'm glad now that i couldn't see the pictures, i'm too sensitive to such problems and those pictures might hound me in my nightmares.
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: StargazerMJ11 on August 09, 2010, 04:26:36 AM
I am more than happy to report this link but I cannot see anymore stuff like this, I seriously cannot take it.I have enough nightmares in my head about this already and it sends my heart and soul into spasms.Thanx for the alert Hazzly I suggest we all send out as much love and light as we can muster to have this situation changed aswell - it has got to stop!
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: NeVrOzAy on August 09, 2010, 05:14:13 AM
reported !
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: Cameron on August 09, 2010, 05:33:12 AM
I saw this yesterday. I think the page is deleted now.
But I have some news telling that this was a fake, the video and the pictures of the dogs are from 1 year ago ! And the real person who tortured them are now in jail since 1 year.
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: Sangre on August 09, 2010, 06:39:24 AM
Quote from: "mumof3"
No the page can't be reported PETA need to know the animals are being tortured  PETA would need to know

PETA is no better than those psychos. http://www.petakillsanimals.com/
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: Hazzely on August 09, 2010, 08:59:37 AM
Quote from: "Cameron"
I saw this yesterday. I think the page is deleted now.
But I have some news telling that this was a fake, the video and the pictures of the dogs are from 1 year ago ! And the real person who tortured them are now in jail since 1 year.

really? Then I'm glad the page is down now & they're in jail
Awesome news thanks =)
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: suomursu on August 09, 2010, 09:26:24 AM
I didn't see the page but apparently you're promoting animal rights. You guys saw something shocking and thought it was WRONG. I just have to ask ... how many of you worried about this subject, eats meat and uses animal-tested cosmetics, for example. I'm not judging anyone but I'm giving something to think about. L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: AgentBJ on August 09, 2010, 09:52:43 AM
Such f***ing b*st*rds should just D!E!  :evil:
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: Cameron on August 09, 2010, 10:32:30 AM
Quote from: "suomursu"
I didn't see the page but apparently you're promoting animal rights. You guys saw something shocking and thought it was WRONG. I just have to ask ... how many of you worried about this subject, eats meat and uses animal-tested cosmetics, for example. I'm not judging anyone but I'm giving something to think about. L.O.V.E.

Eat meat it's not the same thing that torture an animal, most of the time domestic, for nothing, just for pleasure.
I admeet that the animal we kill for the meat are not necessary killed cleany, but it's certainly not as long as the torture on those dogs.

And I'm a man I don't use cosmetics  :)
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: mykidsmum on August 09, 2010, 10:41:22 PM
Hi guys, PETA got back in touch with me and this is what they emailed me:
Quote
Dear -------,

 

Thank you for contacting PETA. We share your concern about disturbing Web sites, e-mails, and postings, and your message has been passed along to the appropriate staff members here for review. The good news is that this Facebook page has been removed due to an overwhelming number of complaints.

 

For actions that you can take in response to Web sites that depict cruelty to animals and to learn more about what PETA is doing about this issue, please see http://www.PETA.org/actioncenter/onlinecruelty.asp (http://www.PETA.org/actioncenter/onlinecruelty.asp). To learn about other ways that you can help animals, please visit PETA’s Web site http://www.PETA.org/actioncenter (http://www.PETA.org/actioncenter).

 

Thanks again for bringing this issue to our attention and for everything that you do to help animals!

 

Sincerely,

 

The PETA Staff

http://www.PETA.org (http://www.PETA.org)

Now, I'd like to say my bit.  I understand that we all want to do what is right.  At what cost?  I was one of the "lucky" ones who clicked on that link and what I saw has been all I can think of for the past two days.  I am terribly terribly disturbed and there was no need for me to see that.  I have children who I need to be here for and I can't do that when I am away in my mind thinking of what I saw.  I imagine most people here are sensitive people, we all like a sensitive man, Michael Jackson and we need to protect eachother..  I'm not blaming anyone but I hope that something like this won't happen again.  First, this is not the topic of this forum, second, one person could have reported the problem on their own without the need of getting any one else involved by posting a link with very disturbing material.  Don't you see, that is the agenda of these people, they want you to pass on their crap for everyone to see.  Please, lets keep this forum to topics about MJ and if anyone needs help in the future, post a very very detailed warning about the link, or just forget the link all together.
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: suomursu on August 10, 2010, 01:55:36 AM
Quote from: "Cameron"
Quote from: "suomursu"
I didn't see the page but apparently you're promoting animal rights. You guys saw something shocking and thought it was WRONG. I just have to ask ... how many of you worried about this subject, eats meat and uses animal-tested cosmetics, for example. I'm not judging anyone but I'm giving something to think about. L.O.V.E.

Eat meat it's not the same thing that torture an animal, most of the time domestic, for nothing, just for pleasure.
I admeet that the animal we kill for the meat are not necessary killed cleany, but it's certainly not as long as the torture on those dogs.

And I'm a man I don't use cosmetics  :)

Surely you wash yourself with some kind of soap and brush your teeth etc.? To me those are cosmetics.
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: Hazzely on August 10, 2010, 08:35:46 AM
What do u expect? It says right from the title "against animal cruelty and violence" and in the message i sent it said "OMG HORRIBLE" .. and so did the tweet of TITOholics.. did you expect a garden filled with roses? It is ur own decision whether you click it or not
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: Hazzely on August 10, 2010, 08:44:33 AM
I checked the cache version of a site since everything was deleted and I found some people who said it was old news and that authorities took care of them already and seems they're in jail. So if that's true then I'm glad the page is down now.
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: mykidsmum on August 11, 2010, 08:41:01 AM
something to cheer everyone up...this is so cute!
[youtube:10maoydy]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK9Xj7eY0UU&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:10maoydy]
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: Cameron on August 11, 2010, 06:12:08 PM
Quote from: "suomursu"
Quote from: "Cameron"
Quote from: "suomursu"
I didn't see the page but apparently you're promoting animal rights. You guys saw something shocking and thought it was WRONG. I just have to ask ... how many of you worried about this subject, eats meat and uses animal-tested cosmetics, for example. I'm not judging anyone but I'm giving something to think about. L.O.V.E.

Eat meat it's not the same thing that torture an animal, most of the time domestic, for nothing, just for pleasure.
I admeet that the animal we kill for the meat are not necessary killed cleany, but it's certainly not as long as the torture on those dogs.

And I'm a man I don't use cosmetics  :)

Surely you wash yourself with some kind of soap and brush your teeth etc.? To me those are cosmetics.

I don't wash myself, and I don't brush my teeth.







 :lol: Joke.

Ok, but this is normal that cosmetics are tested on animals before on humans.
And I have to tell you that some cosmetics are really bad for the health in long term.
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: mykidsmum on August 11, 2010, 06:39:33 PM
even if you use a product who's company doesn't test on animals, the ingredients have been at one time or another.  If not by the company who you purchase from, then from other places, distributers or other companies and labratories.  There is a difference between HUMANE and INHUMANE.  For instance, I am a meat eater but I choose to buy my meat from local farms where the raising and slaughter is humane with the least suffering as possible.  My toothpaste and bath products are all vegetable based always and organic if I can manage that, but overall as chem free as possible.  Knowing how your meat got to your plate is a big step in supporting HUMANE treatment of animals.  Think about that before you buy your burger from walmart because your purchase is a vote...if you buy inhumane meat you vote for inhumane treatment.
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: Cameron on August 12, 2010, 01:36:52 PM
Ok, I agree, you're right.
But the entire population of a country can't buy meat in farms, there would be scarceness.
It's to avoid scarceness that we invented the production of mass and all terror which go with...
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: suomursu on August 14, 2010, 08:32:39 AM
Quote from: "Cameron"
Quote from: "suomursu"
Quote from: "Cameron"
Quote from: "suomursu"
I didn't see the page but apparently you're promoting animal rights. You guys saw something shocking and thought it was WRONG. I just have to ask ... how many of you worried about this subject, eats meat and uses animal-tested cosmetics, for example. I'm not judging anyone but I'm giving something to think about. L.O.V.E.

Eat meat it's not the same thing that torture an animal, most of the time domestic, for nothing, just for pleasure.
I admeet that the animal we kill for the meat are not necessary killed cleany, but it's certainly not as long as the torture on those dogs.

And I'm a man I don't use cosmetics  :)

Surely you wash yourself with some kind of soap and brush your teeth etc.? To me those are cosmetics.

I don't wash myself, and I don't brush my teeth.

 :lol: Joke.

Ok, but this is normal that cosmetics are tested on animals before on humans.
And I have to tell you that some cosmetics are really bad for the health in long term.

I wouldn't say it's normal just because "everyone does it and has always done it". There are alternatives. I know cosmetics may not be good for you and that's why I choose them carefully. For instance I usually don't put on my skin anything that I couldn't eat. So I wash my face with canola oil and salt, teeth with baking soda etc. If I need to use make-up I only wear pure minerals that are cruelty free.

I'm definitely not saying that everyone should stop using cosmetics and eating meat but people really should start thinking about the effects of their daily consuming and start questioning if the way their food and stuff are produced is the best way (mykidsmum has good thoughts to my mind). I think ignorance and thoughtlessness are the problem.
Title: Re: Against animal cruelty and violence
Post by: Cameron on August 14, 2010, 03:50:52 PM
I absolutely agree with you.
In the nature, there are so many things that we could use instead of chemicals elements... But the industrials societies prefer use chemicals because it's less expensive than biologic stuff.

But I think, with the time, we will use more natural and biologic stuff. For our cars, our wash up and make up, to make alloys of plastic...  ;)
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