Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => TMZ.com => Michael Jackson News => TMZ Articles => Topic started by: trublu on August 04, 2010, 01:58:38 PM
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MJ Death Mansion for Sale -- Fans Already Calling
20 minutes ago by TMZ Staff
The Holmby Hills mansion where Michael Jackson overdosed on Propofol and died is back on the market for a cool $28 mil -- but the owners are asking for roughly $10 million less than they did before MJ kicked the bucket.
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Click here to see the photos: http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/michael ... ost_recent (http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/michael_jacksons_holmby_hills_house#tab=most_recent)
The 17,171 square foot home on Carolwood Drive -- which includes 7 bedrooms, a 7-car garage, and 13 toilets -- was officially put up for sale on Monday ... with an asking price of $28,995,000.
Sources close to the estate tell TMZ that several MJ fans have already expressed interest -- possibly in an attempt to get a sneak peek inside -- but the owners have required all potential buyers to go through an "extensive pre-qualifying check" before they can even walk in the door.
Back in 2008, the property owner -- Ed Hardy CEO Hubert Guez -- tried selling the place for $38 million ... but when that didn't work out, he agreed to let MJ live in the home while he rehearsed for the "This Is It" tour.
According to RealEstalker.com, Guez had recently tried to rent out the property for $300,000 per month ... but ultimately decided he would try and get rid of it all together, with the discounted price tag.
So far, it's unclear if Guez is entertaining any serious offers.
http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/04/michael-j ... mby-hills/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/04/michael-jackson-mansion-for-sale-carolwood-death-propofol-dr-murray-holmby-hills/)
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EDIT: The image didn't go in how I wanted...Will have to learn how to do that :)
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I don't know the expression "kicked the bucket"..is it disrespectful? Does it mean died? Sorry for my ignorance :oops:
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I don't know the expression "kicked the bucket"..is it disrespectful? Does it mean died? Sorry for my ignorance :oops:
it's a colloquial way to say that someone died. not disrespectful, really, but just a term in spoken language. pretty unusual for journalists to write it like that, but this is tmz... ;)
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edit: just noticed the entry line: '...where michael jackson overdosed on propofol and died...'. when you klick the 'kicked the bucket line', it leads you to the original article from june 25, 2009 (2:20 pdt!) saying that he suffered cardiac arrest and died in the hospital. now they officially have two versions themselves, it seems...i don't remember them using that expression 'overdosed on propofol' before...also, it usually sounds like self-inflicted when you write 'died from an overdose'. is it like tmz playing around with the different versions of 'how mike died' now?
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Yes Trublu, it is slang meaning someone has died. It's more insensitive than disrespectful, I think. Although, in the context of Michael, I'm a little offended that they use that phrase. That's just me.
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I don't know the expression "kicked the bucket"..is it disrespectful? Does it mean died? Sorry for my ignorance :oops:
it's a colloquial way to say that someone died. not disrespectful, really, but just a term in spoken language. pretty unusual for journalists to write it like that, but this is tmz... ;)
:mrgreen:
Thank you so much :)
Then the comments at the bottom of the page are a bit strange. I thought maybe it referred to suicide after reading one of the comments saying that Murray killed him and that he didn't 'kick the bucket'.
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Yes Trublu, it is slang meaning someone has died. It's more insensitive than disrespectful, I think. Although, in the context of Michael, I'm a little offended that they use that phrase. That's just me.
I see CantGetEnoughMJ , thank you for your explanation.
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The 17,171 square foot home on Carolwood Drive -- which includes 7 bedrooms, a 7-car garage, and 13 toilets -- was officially put up for sale on Monday
I SEE LOTS OF SEVENS THERE! 777777
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Why would the house be going for cheaper now?? This is a strange story I think :?
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BTW, that house is ridiculously gorgeous.
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Beautiful house:
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WOW :shock:
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BTW, that house is ridiculously gorgeous.
it is, i just don't get that 'old furniture'-thing most americans seem to have going. i have american family (totally normal ppl) and they're all into that stuff, too...it's almost overloaded with all that plushy furniture. then again, it's all in the same style. so altogether, i fully agree with you. :mrgreen:
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edit: just noticed the entry line: '...where michael jackson overdosed on propofol and died...'. when you klick the 'kicked the bucket line', it leads you to the original article from june 25, 2009 (2:20 pdt!) saying that he suffered cardiac arrest and died in the hospital. now they officially have two versions themselves, it seems...i don't remember them using that expression 'overdosed on propofol' before...also, it usually sounds like self-inflicted when you write 'died from an overdose'. is it like tmz playing around with the different versions of 'how mike died' now?
:mrgreen:
Maybe they are referring to suicide? Here http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/218800.html (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/218800.html) it says:
"One theory as to why, albeit with little evidence to support it, is that the phrase originates from the notion that people hanged themselves by standing on a bucket with a noose around their neck and then kicking the bucket away. "
But then goes on to say that it doesn't refer to suicide. It is a strange saying for a non-native to understand! :? :lol:
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Well that is pretty clearly spelled out for us! wow.
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Yeahhhhhhhhhhhh sure....
Chappie
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Yeahhhhhhhhhhhh sure....
Chappie
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BTW, that house is ridiculously gorgeous.
it is, i just don't get that 'old furniture'-thing most americans seem to have going. i have american family (totally normal ppl) and they're all into that stuff, too...it's almost overloaded with all that plushy furniture. then again, it's all in the same style. so altogether, i fully agree with you. :mrgreen:
It suits the house and it's warm. I love it. Can someone lend me a few million? I can't guarantee I will pay it back though... :lol:
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"MJ kicked the bucket",
TMZ uses these words to refer there is Michael, already they have done it before, do not do with other persons that! If! They have died. :lol:
TS BIAS... TMZ who want to say with this? 8-)
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this comes from realestalker.blogspot:
http://realestalker.blogspot.com/2010/0 ... beans.html (http://realestalker.blogspot.com/2010/08/buckle-your-safety-belts-butter-beans.html)
Buckle your safety belts butter beans and prepare for a shit storm of publicity because the Los Angeles mansion where Michael Jackson met his untimely death in June of 2009 is back on the market with an asking price of $28,995,000.
The Richard Landry designed dwelling on N. Carolwood Drive in the hoity-toity Holmby Hills area contains a total of 7 bedrooms, 7 garage spaces, 12 fireplaces, and an unlucky 13 poopers. When our seriously superstitious house gurl Svetlana heard there were 13 terlits in the house she dropped to the floor, flailed and wailed around a bit screaming about how "Michael should have known. He should have known..."
The 17,171 square foot faux French chateau sits on a 1.26 acre lot according to listing information and is owned by Roxanne Guez and her controversial clothing manufacturing mogul huzband Hubert who is the current CEO of that upsetting Ed Hardy brand.
Your Mama has written about and dissed on the palatial pile a thousand time before so there's no need for us to rehash the hashed. However, iffin any of the children missed any of our previous discussions some of them are here, here, and here.
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this comes from realestalker.blogspot:
http://realestalker.blogspot.com/2010/0 ... beans.html (http://realestalker.blogspot.com/2010/08/buckle-your-safety-belts-butter-beans.html)
Buckle your safety belts butter beans and prepare for a shit storm of publicity because the Los Angeles mansion where Michael Jackson met his untimely death in June of 2009 is back on the market with an asking price of $28,995,000.
The Richard Landry designed dwelling on N. Carolwood Drive in the hoity-toity Holmby Hills area contains a total of 7 bedrooms, 7 garage spaces, 12 fireplaces, and an unlucky 13 poopers. When our seriously superstitious house gurl Svetlana heard there were 13 terlits in the house she dropped to the floor, flailed and wailed around a bit screaming about how "Michael should have known. He should have known..."
The 17,171 square foot faux French chateau sits on a 1.26 acre lot according to listing information and is owned by Roxanne Guez and her controversial clothing manufacturing mogul huzband Hubert who is the current CEO of that upsetting Ed Hardy brand.
Your Mama has written about and dissed on the palatial pile a thousand time before so there's no need for us to rehash the hashed. However, iffin any of the children missed any of our previous discussions some of them are here, here, and here.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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BTW, that house is ridiculously gorgeous.
it is, i just don't get that 'old furniture'-thing most americans seem to have going. i have american family (totally normal ppl) and they're all into that stuff, too...it's almost overloaded with all that plushy furniture. then again, it's all in the same style. so altogether, i fully agree with you. :mrgreen:
I love the house, but the furniture would have to leave with the first removal-van that would become available...
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Wish i had the bucks. It is stunning! I could so picture myself living there WITH Mj! :)
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The Holmby Hills mansion where Michael Jackson overdosed on Propofol and died is back on the market for a cool $28 mil -- but the owners are asking for roughly $10 million less than they did before MJ kicked the bucket.
They worded it to sound like him overdosing and dying were two seperate events. :?
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Michael Jackson overdosed on Propofol and died is back on the market!
;)
Chappie
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What a gorgeous home! We all knew the "death bed" photos weren't from this home with the mattresses laying on the floor in a tiny cramped up room....seen below... LOL! :mrgreen:
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Look at the gorgeous huge master bedroom that DancingtheDream posted (the 5th photo on the previous page) with the fireplace, gorgeous curtains and oh so elegant! As for the death bed "photo" published internationally.....well, just because.....don't make it factual! We get it, Mike! Oh what a circus! Oh what a show!
We love you, Michael! And YES, we will be there! :D :D :D
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Hey Souza,
I couldn't believe I missed that... and then I realized that mine was slightly different.
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It appears that the position of the words is modified depending on the resolution settings you have your computer on.
If I increase my settings to a larger font I get what you saw...
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I hope this doesn't cause any messages to be missed... :|
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What's up with the person in the fireplace? Anyone else see that? They didn't even try to hide it this time....WEIRD!!
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I think I will buy a few lottery tickets and pray that I hit the big jackpot. I would love to live there. However, I would love to buy Neverland more. It is so beautiful and peaceful looking. A perfect place to raise my family.
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I too need to hit the lotto or find someone rich, dump him, collect half the money and go buy that place!
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I don't know the expression "kicked the bucket"..is it disrespectful? Does it mean died? Sorry for my ignorance :oops:
Yes, it's a phrase meaning when they died. In my opinion it's very disrespectful to use this phrase in this article.
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Ok - all of those threads about faces has made me crazy for sure. Is there a face in the fireplace behind the screen?
EDIT: anewfan - just saw your post after I added mine. It scared me at first because it was so obvious.
The other thing is that we have definitely seen two different bedroom pictures now and not just the one from the supposed adjoining room where he "died".
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TMZ used that expression because nobody died ;)
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Hey Souza,
I couldn't believe I missed that... and then I realized that mine was slightly different.
(http://a.imageshack.us/img267/6589/ts1fs.jpg)
It appears that the position of the words is modified depending on the resolution settings you have your computer on.
If I increase my settings to a larger font I get what you saw...
(http://a.imageshack.us/img137/213/ts2n.jpg)
I hope this doesn't cause any messages to be missed... :|
In the source of their website you will find that they use a width of 982 pixels for their layout:
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To check if you have set the right resolution and width in your browser for watching the TMZ website - make a screenshot, load it into Photoshop and measure if the width of the body on your screen is indeed 982 pixels wide. The width of the body is shown in the blue square in this image:
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If it's not the same, you will have to change your browser settings. In most browsers you can easily do this by holding down the Ctrl button and scrolling up or down with the wheel of your mouse at the same time.
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I don't know the expression "kicked the bucket"..is it disrespectful? Does it mean died? Sorry for my ignorance :oops:
Yes, it's a phrase meaning when they died. In my opinion it's very disrespectful to use this phrase in this article.
Another disrespectful phrase from TMZ. :roll: Agree with you on that.
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The 17,171 square foot home on Carolwood Drive -- which includes 7 bedrooms, a 7-car garage, and 13 toilets -- was officially put up for sale on Monday
I SEE LOTS OF SEVENS THERE! 777777
exactly! the sevens jumped out at me! wow if all these figures are really accurate, then MJ must have put alot of effort in choosing the RIGHT home to 'die' in...
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BTW, that house is ridiculously gorgeous.
it is, i just don't get that 'old furniture'-thing most americans seem to have going. i have american family (totally normal ppl) and they're all into that stuff, too...it's almost overloaded with all that plushy furniture. then again, it's all in the same style. so altogether, i fully agree with you. :mrgreen:
I love the house, but the furniture would have to leave with the first removal-van that would become available...
I suppose a good amount of us just prefer the gorgeously romantic, rich hues and "antique" feel of it- yours truly included..!I never like all of the modern looks for the home in magazines, all of the plain, dull solid colors and plain painted wood furniture .! :lol:
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BTW, that house is ridiculously gorgeous.
Wow indeed! However, looking at the walls and decors including the furniture in these pics, can I just say I now highly doubt those bedroom room pics that came out where Mj supposedly overdosed don't look like they belong to this house. Just by the walls and lavish decors, I feel a huge difference. Just my thought
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The 17,171 square foot home on Carolwood Drive -- which includes 7 bedrooms, a 7-car garage,
Um, wtf :shock: :?
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TMZ knows MJ was into 7's, so I'd say that's why they made such a big effort mentioning all the 7 coincidences...The furniture is hired... Furnished houses have more appeal for potential buyers.
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OMG! :o :o
Read down the left side, it says "TS BIAS"
Bais means "influence in an unfair way"
So is TMZ trying to say TS influences us in an unfair way? I don't get it :|
EDIT: Sorry, didn't know this was already pointed out. I should've looked through the comments first, :lol: I was excited about seeing that, so i posted my reply before reading the other comments haha! 8-)
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BIAS is also a company selling interesting softwares:
http://www.bias-inc.com/products/ ;)
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The 17,171 square foot home on Carolwood Drive -- which includes 7 bedrooms, a 7-car garage, and 13 toilets -- was officially put up for sale on Monday
Glinda wrote:
How many tombs did the Jacksons buy?
13, and I just thought about it today, but the Illuminati are 13 families, I think it could be symbolical for killing the illuminati.
Every tomb needs a toilet....
A wet tomb is not a nice place....you dont want your laptop to get wet.... ;)
Chappie
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If someone has really died, personally, I think it is totally disrespectful for TMZ or anyone to print that they have 'kicked the bucket'. It is a jokey way of expressing that someone has died. I am so sure TMZ know MJ is not dead. Do they describe other dead celebrities as having 'kicked the bucket'?
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If someone has really died, personally, I think it is totally disrespectful for TMZ or anyone to print that they have 'kicked the bucket'. It is a jokey way of expressing that someone has died. I am so sure TMZ know MJ is not dead. Do they describe other dead celebrities as having 'kicked the bucket'?
I am 100% with you on this one. In Polish we have very very similar expression, it says in free translation "kick the calendar"; knowing tabloids language by now I cannot imagine even them using such expression for someone who died.
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OMG! :o :o
Read down the left side, it says "TS BIAS"
Bais means "influence in an unfair way"
So is TMZ trying to say TS influences us in an unfair way? I don't get it :|
EDIT: Sorry, didn't know this was already pointed out. I should've looked through the comments first, :lol: I was excited about seeing that, so i posted my reply before reading the other comments haha! 8-)
I think it means prejudice in this case. Many people are opposing TS without having read his posts.
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Great finding, Souza! But, just like lilwendy, the TMZ "right resolution" revelation hit me hard, because it never crossed my mind that the articles can be displayed differently, affecting the rows arrangement and consequently the "decoding" of the hidden message.
However, I find very intriguing the dualistic meaning of BIAS, which can be intepreted as "an inclination towards something, or a predisposition, partiality, prejudice, preference, or predilection" (TS taking Michael's side) or as "systematic favoritism that is present in the data collection process resulting in misleading results" and "the human tendency to make systematic errors in certain circumstances based on cognitive factors rather than evidence - cognitive bias", relating to the latest redirects of TS for our misinterpretation of his clues, the omission of the blunt evidence due to subjective selection of messages and meanings.
Moreover, the second part of the title of the article, "Fans Already Calling" made me look deeper into the meaning of "call". According to wikipedia, the first reference is made to "A type of betting in poker" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call). We've had many gambling/games connections so I didn't dismiss this possibility. The call may also refer to a command, general gathering from the top down, like an army mobilisation. Staying with the army intepretation, call is also an acronym for "Center for Army Lessons Learned". Anyway, to me it sounds like "the fans are already waiting and calling the return".
LOVE,
Andy
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Ok, either this gambling connection is serious, either I'm really seeing things. When I googled "mansion", the first suggestion and result was not for the actual meaning of the word ("a very large dwelling house"), but for an online casino, with 2 sites: http://www.mansion.com/ (http://www.mansion.com/) and http://www.mansionpoker.com/ (http://www.mansionpoker.com/). What I found even more interesting is the casino's logo, an embelished M, resembling the Illuminated letters. So we have "mansion casino" and "fans calling" (poker). What can this be?
LOVE,
Andy
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The 17,171 square foot home.Lets not forget the ambulance was 71 and the tour bus was 17.A real play with numbers here.Cheers xxx000
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When I first saw the TS BIAS spelling on TMZ I don't know why but I immediately thought that it was directed to us, people who have faith in TS. Because there is another perspective to be taken into account, maybe that our too grand faith in TS made us missed an important point...
Someone can argue that TMZ is maybe just showing that they know about TS and that people are being prejudice ok, but even, I don't understand why TMZ would do that because people who don't have faith in TS will not consider him more serious or legitimate because TMZ said so...I really feel like it's directed to us but I may be wrong of course.
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It's gorgeous! I don't go for antiques but it fits there.
I find the wording odd and yes "kicked the bucket" to me is rude.
But I did smile at the comment that Pearl Jr put in :
"MJ didn't die there because Michael is NOT dead!
The Most Shocking story of our lifetime.
'Pseudocide Did Michael Jackson Fake His Death To Save HIS LIFE?
MichaelJacksonPseudocide com
Posted at 12:04 PM on Aug 4, 2010 by Pearl Jr"
" MJ didn't die there because Michael is NOT dead!"
Good for her!
I cannot understand the hateful comments, why do they continue to hassle MJ fans.
I would never post on an article where I did not like the subject.
TMZ again has made us put our thinking caps on :lol:
We LOVE you Michael!!!
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When I first saw the TS BIAS spelling on TMZ I don't know why but I immediately thought that it was directed to us, people who have faith in TS. Because there is another perspective to be taken into account, maybe that our too grand faith in TS made us missed an important point...
Someone can argue that TMZ is maybe just showing that they know about TS and that people are being prejudice ok, but even, I don't understand why TMZ would do that because people who don't have faith in TS will not consider him more serious or legitimate because TMZ said so...I really feel like it's directed to us but I may be wrong of course.
Could be. I have the feeling we are missing something for months, it fries my brain and I can't get a hold of it.
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"MJ kicked the bucket." links to this article. (http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/25/michael-jackson-dies-death-dead-cardiac-arrest/) Gotta love TMZ, right? :lol:
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In the 70s, there was an old reggae tune called 'Long Shot Kick the Bucket' - just thought I'd mention it - moving on.
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Ive just read on another forum that the contract for this mansion was up on June 25th 2009... and that Havenhurst was due for foreclosure on 26th June 2009? Is this correct?
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my mind went to the movie the bucket list. as in the one thing michael wanted to share with us or however it went. ts bias could be subject related because most of his direction seems to refer to spiritual stuff. :? back into the jacket
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Why does it show two different back yards and pools? Oh, nevermind (duh), I figured it out :lol:
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I would say TS has a bias --towards MJ leaving clues that he's not dead but creatively orchestrating events, numbers, MJ and Elvis connection, and more like that. That's sort of how I take it. The $17,171 number is 77 and 111, which is interesting. And in the 1st page where the Realestalker article is posted,(lively writer!!) he mentions 12 fireplaces. So in addition to the 13 families of the Illuminati being buried with MJ the victor on top crypt (only symbolically), they're also being flushed down the toilet, and there are 12 power sources to light the way for the world to be changed positively (12 sons of Jacob and 12 disciples of Jesus).
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they're also being flushed down the toilet
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I like the way you think, good one!
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Ok, either this gambling connection is serious, either I'm really seeing things. When I googled "mansion", the first suggestion and result was not for the actual meaning of the word ("a very large dwelling house"), but for an online casino, with 2 sites: http://www.mansion.com/ (http://www.mansion.com/) and http://www.mansionpoker.com/ (http://www.mansionpoker.com/). What I found even more interesting is the casino's logo, an embelished M, resembling the Illuminated letters. So we have "mansion casino" and "fans calling" (poker). What can this be?
LOVE,
Andy
where did i read that tom parker was a gambler?
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I would say TS has a bias --towards MJ leaving clues that he's not dead but creatively orchestrating events, numbers, MJ and Elvis connection, and more like that. That's sort of how I take it. The $17,171 number is 77 and 111, which is interesting. And in the 1st page where the Realestalker article is posted,(lively writer!!) he mentions 12 fireplaces. So in addition to the 13 families of the Illuminati being buried with MJ the victor on top crypt (only symbolically), they're also being flushed down the toilet, and there are 12 power sources to light the way for the world to be changed positively (12 sons of Jacob and 12 disciples of Jesus).
Yes it makes sense.
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Suspicious mind, You Had this Ferieres Tom Parker:
"Colonel" Andrew Thomas " Tom " Parker (26 June 1909-21 January 1997) , born Andreas Cornelis ( Dries ) van Kuijk , was a Netherlands b. Entertainment employer known as the manager Elvis Presley . His management of Presley re-wrote the role of talent manager and was seen as central to the astonishing success of Presley's career. His management Presley re- wrote the role of talent manager and was seen as crucial to the astonishing success of Presley 's career . He displayed a ruthless devotion to his client's interests, took far more than the traditional 10 percent of his earnings (reaching up to 50 percent by the end of Presley's life), and piloted him to global super-stardom. Showed a ruthless devotion to the interests of his client, was much more than the traditional 10 percent of their earnings ( which reaches up to 50 percent by the end of Presley 's life ), and tested to global superstardom . Presley said of Parker: "I don't think I would have been very big with another man. Because he's a very smart man." [ 1 ] For many years Parker claimed to have been US-born, but it eventually emerged that he was born in Breda , Netherlands . Presley Parker said : "I do not think it would have been great with another man. Because it is a very intelligent man. " [1 ] For many years , Parker said she was born in the U.S. , but eventually it became clear who was born in Breda , Netherlands .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonel_Tom_Parker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonel_Tom_Parker)
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I forgot, I was going to add this. Maybe MJ and Elvis have this in common, they have a list of things they want to do before they REALLY actually die. They're both terminally ill with the human aging process.
Plot Summary for
The Bucket List (2007) More at IMDbPro ยป
ad feedbackCorprate billionaire Edward Cole and working class mechanic Carter Chambers have nothing in common except for their terminal illnesses. While sharing a hospital room together, they decide to leave it and do all the things they have ever wanted to do before they die according to their bucket list. In the process, both of them heal each other, become unlikely friends, and ultimately find the joy in life. Written by r2k443
The quiet mechanic Carter Chambers is a man with a great general culture; has been married for forty-five years with his beloved wife Virginia and has two sons - one lawyer the other engineer - and a violinist daughter. The caustic and bitter billionaire Edward Cole owns many hospitals, has many divorces and one missing daughter. Following the policy of Edward, his hospital makes no exception giving a private room to him and he shares the same room as Carter. Along the days, they become close to each other and when Edward finds in the garbage the bucket list that Carter had prepared, listing all he wanted to do before dying, he includes his own items and invites Carter to a journey of friendship, discoveries and redemption. Written by Claudio Carvalho, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Edward (a rich man) meets Carter, when they in hospital. They both live different lifestyles, but become friends when they bond because of their common terminal illnesses. They later come together to make a list of things they want to do before they: "kick the bucket" (a positive list, which makes life better). They both start to make changes in life, where they both learn from each other. Written by Jen Whitham.
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The 17,171 square foot home on Carolwood Drive -- which includes 7 bedrooms, a 7-car garage, and 13 toilets -- was officially put up for sale on Monday
Glinda wrote:
How many tombs did the Jacksons buy?
13, and I just thought about it today, but the Illuminati are 13 families, I think it could be symbolical for killing the illuminati.
Every tomb needs a toilet....
A wet tomb is not a nice place....you dont want your laptop to get wet.... ;)
Chappie
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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OMG! :o :o
Read down the left side, it says "TS BIAS"
Bais means "influence in an unfair way"
So is TMZ trying to say TS influences us in an unfair way? I don't get it :|
EDIT: Sorry, didn't know this was already pointed out. I should've looked through the comments first, :lol: I was excited about seeing that, so i posted my reply before reading the other comments haha! 8-)
I think it means prejudice in this case. Many people are opposing TS without having read his posts.
That makes more sense :lol:
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beautiful home...
it seems like there are yellow flowers in each picture?!..
not sure if they are sunflowers or just yellow flowers..
hugg n keep the faith
suzz
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Wish i had the bucks. It is stunning! I could so picture myself living there WITH Mj! :)
Ditto that and I think the furniture suits that house to a tee. It's GORGEOUS inside, out! I can see why Michael chose to live there.
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Best part of the article: 13 toilets.
Second best: "kicked the bucket" - I bet he did kick it and not only one time.
Third best: the link to the "death announcement" is followed by another link in that article:
"La Toya Races to her Brother's Side" and this gives yet a real "kick":
[attachment=0:f99ur7xn]LaToya races to her Brother 20090625.jpg[/attachment:f99ur7xn]
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Wish i had the bucks. It is stunning! I could so picture myself living there WITH Mj! :)
Ditto that and I think the furniture suits that house to a tee. It's GORGEOUS inside, out! I can see why Michael chose to live there.
If all ofMJs fans pooled together, and donated one dollar each, we could collectively afford to buy this place! :D
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Wish i had the bucks. It is stunning! I could so picture myself living there WITH Mj! :)
Ditto that and I think the furniture suits that house to a tee. It's GORGEOUS inside, out! I can see why Michael chose to live there.
If all ofMJs fans pooled together, and donated one dollar each, we could collectively afford to buy this place! :D
I said the same thing about Neverland :(
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Suspicious mind, You Had this Ferieres Tom Parker:
"Colonel" Andrew Thomas " Tom " Parker (26 June 1909-21 January 1997) , born Andreas Cornelis ( Dries ) van Kuijk , was a Netherlands b. Entertainment employer known as the manager Elvis Presley . His management of Presley re-wrote the role of talent manager and was seen as central to the astonishing success of Presley's career. His management Presley re- wrote the role of talent manager and was seen as crucial to the astonishing success of Presley 's career . He displayed a ruthless devotion to his client's interests, took far more than the traditional 10 percent of his earnings (reaching up to 50 percent by the end of Presley's life), and piloted him to global super-stardom. Showed a ruthless devotion to the interests of his client, was much more than the traditional 10 percent of their earnings ( which reaches up to 50 percent by the end of Presley 's life ), and tested to global superstardom . Presley said of Parker: "I don't think I would have been very big with another man. Because he's a very smart man." [ 1 ] For many years Parker claimed to have been US-born, but it eventually emerged that he was born in Breda , Netherlands . Presley Parker said : "I do not think it would have been great with another man. Because it is a very intelligent man. " [1 ] For many years , Parker said she was born in the U.S. , but eventually it became clear who was born in Breda , Netherlands .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonel_Tom_Parker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonel_Tom_Parker)
yeah.i guess that is where i read it. did i also see something about a suit or something over how much of a cut of the money elvis made that he took?