Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => Hoax Pictures => Topic started by: frogh777 on July 29, 2010, 09:02:12 AM

Title: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: frogh777 on July 29, 2010, 09:02:12 AM
Well.. Here he is:
DOUBLE (this Double is a white man. Mj is black(genetic)) Black men DON'T have straight hair on CHEST. I mean, a black man/woman can change hair style on the HEAD. But a black man (MJ) can not have straight CHEST HAIR!! he is BLACK!

(http://i45.tinypic.com/2qnystd.jpg)


IF MJ had chest hair, then it should have look like this (just an example):
[attachment=0:s21mfr8q]Knipsel.JPG[/attachment:s21mfr8q]
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: newoldfan on July 29, 2010, 09:07:34 AM
Quote from: "frogh777"
Well.. Here he is:
DOUBLE (this Double is a white man. Mj is black(genetic)) Black man DON'T have straight hair on CHEST. I mean, a black man/woman can change hair style on the HEAD. But a black man (MJ) can not have straight CHEST HAIR!! he is BLACK!

(http://i45.tinypic.com/2qnystd.jpg)


IF MJ had chest hair, then it should have look like this (just an example):
[attachment=0:z74dshng]Knipsel.JPG[/attachment:z74dshng]


Also, I've never seen hair on MJ's chest before. In all the video clips and concerts where he shows his chest (you know, where he rips his shirt off  :D) there's no hair!!
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Sandy on July 29, 2010, 09:31:37 AM
This man IS Michael, of course. :roll:
Shaving is a term for you. Isn't it?
And yes. I seen pictures of Michael before with hair on his chest.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: newoldfan on July 29, 2010, 09:46:04 AM
Quote from: "Sandy"
This man IS Michael, of course. :roll:
Shaving is a term for you. Isn't it?
And yes. I seen pictures of Michael before with hair on his chest.

Oh! I really don't like sarcasm.

Yes I know the term shaving. If he's concsious of his body hair and shaves why wouldn't he do it for all his photo
shoots/appearances including this one....?
Could you provide some links to the photos with chest hair?
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: frogh777 on July 29, 2010, 09:49:12 AM
Quote from: "Sandy"
This man IS Michael, of course. :roll:
Shaving is a term for you. Isn't it?
And yes. I seen pictures of Michael before with hair on his chest.
can you post them please?
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: GirlInTheMirror on July 29, 2010, 10:04:12 AM
Actually it doesn´t look very straight to me.. the hair. Not curly as well, but sth in between...
I also saw a pic where MJ had chest hair.. well, maybe he didnt shave it when he wasn´t on a foto shoot or show?
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: SEHF on July 29, 2010, 10:27:19 AM
LOL
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Datroot on July 29, 2010, 10:29:41 AM
I don't think the poster said black men don't have chest hair, I think they said the chest hair on black men would look slightly different to that of white men.  Also, I have seen pics of MJ with chest hair before but I was dubious as to whether or not it was actually MJ.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Bee Bee on July 29, 2010, 10:38:15 AM
For example...

http://www.gallery.steady-laughing.com/ ... ge_id=3833 (http://www.gallery.steady-laughing.com/details.php?image_id=3833)

That very same chest hair, if you ask me.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Mj5StarChick on July 29, 2010, 10:39:21 AM
Hmmmm I think it is Mike :D
I like this pic I have seen other pics from this day and and seems like its him. That's a close shot however dang :lol: !!
U can kinda see sum chest hair if u look close enough on this pic :D

(http://i14.piczo.com/view/3/8/i/2/g/3/p/o/j/l/r/5/img/i297169111_78641_4.jpg)
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 29, 2010, 10:41:01 AM
Quote from: "frogh777"
Well.. Here he is:
DOUBLE (this Double is a white man. Mj is black(genetic)) Black men DON'T have straight hair on CHEST. I mean, a black man/woman can change hair style on the HEAD. But a black man (MJ) can not have straight CHEST HAIR!! he is BLACK!

(http://i45.tinypic.com/2qnystd.jpg)


IF MJ had chest hair, then it should have look like this (just an example):
[attachment=0:83wrrkx3]Knipsel.JPG[/attachment:83wrrkx3]

That is Michael in the picture.
Michael has Native American genes as well as Black. His Great Great Grandfather was full blooded Native American.

Natives, North American
Native Americans have in common (though with considerable variation)—Mongolic features, coarse, straight black hair, dark eyes, sparse body hair, and a skin color ranging from yellow-brown to reddish brown.
http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/society/A0834982.html

This can account for variation in Michael as well as why Blanket has straight hair and a lighter complexion also depending on the nationality of his mother and the genetic material he received from her. It all comes down to genetics.

Edit: forgot the link.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Datroot on July 29, 2010, 10:41:32 AM
Well that certainly looks like MJ but is the chest hair photoshopped on?  Just asking.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: PinkTopaz on July 29, 2010, 11:13:00 AM
Quote from: "frogh777"
Well.. Here he is:
DOUBLE (this Double is a white man. Mj is black(genetic)) Black men DON'T have straight hair on CHEST. I mean, a black man/woman can change hair style on the HEAD. But a black man (MJ) can not have straight CHEST HAIR!! he is BLACK!

(http://i45.tinypic.com/2qnystd.jpg)


IF MJ had chest hair, then it should have look like this (just an example):
[attachment=0:zswkgfo3]Knipsel.JPG[/attachment:zswkgfo3]
Hm, it may be so that he's got Native American in him, but you've got a point there, Frogh- I think that someone whose natural hair looks like this: (http://www.justsharethis.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/1977MichaelJackson.jpg) would have chest hair like the one on the bottom, not long and wavy like the top pic.. Hmm..
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: ThaPr1meK1ng on July 29, 2010, 11:44:07 AM
As a black man myself. We can grow hair in many different ways. This chest hair argument is just irrelevant. Others grow hair in completely different ways. Some may have the curly chest hair, others may not. I know some black people who just have slightly straighter hair than others, not straight like a white persons. The black people with the slightly straighter hair  were normally the ones who can grow a HUGE afro. Not all black people's hairs are the same lol.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: wishingstar on July 29, 2010, 12:00:37 PM
Not to change the subject.......but.......
Where is this picture from?  I have seen this jacket/shirt with the pyramids.  Supposedly, there were prayer beads on the bed.  It's an interesting picture itself.  Is it shopped or cropped from another.  Just curious.......

Have an awesome day!
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: tabloidburn on July 29, 2010, 12:01:09 PM
mike and his man-made sweater. btw, i was married to an african american, he has pretty straight chest hair, too. and he sported a huge fro in the 70s. also native americans and caucasian in that family. means all hair possible.
and mike's chest hair is not long and wavy, it's just 'hairs crossing'.

the jacket is a balmain, i believe he got into those between 2008 and 2009, also because their military collection is from the 2009 season. he picked quite a few jackets from that collection, like the ones with the pointy shoulders and that one with the studs. so i would date the pic there somewhere.

no double, it's mike.  :mrgreen:  

[attachment=0:23qv2src]wow[1].jpg[/attachment:23qv2src]
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 29, 2010, 12:05:19 PM
More pictures of Michael wearing the same jacket.

(http://www.upscalehype.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/michael-jackson-in-balmain-jeans-jessie-jt-6.jpg)

(http://www.upscalehype.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/michael-jackson-in-balmain-jeans-jessie-jt-7.jpg)

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:eBPIdVG4_EkclM:http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn288/fashionblogger/2009/michael_jackson_givenchy.jpg&t=1)
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: curls on July 29, 2010, 12:43:43 PM
Ooh errr ...tabloidburn, the jacket seems to have disappeared from your pic!!!!   :D  :lol:  :o
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Kirsche on July 29, 2010, 02:27:06 PM
Quote from: "Sandy"
This man IS Michael, of course. :roll:
Shaving is a term for you. Isn't it?
And yes. I seen pictures of Michael before with hair on his chest.


Yeah, me too....
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Do on July 29, 2010, 03:33:37 PM
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
mike and his man-made sweater. btw, i was married to an african american, he has pretty straight chest hair, too. and he sported a huge fro in the 70s. also native americans and caucasian in that family. means all hair possible.
and mike's chest hair is not long and wavy, it's just 'hairs crossing'.

the jacket is a balmain, i believe he got into those between 2008 and 2009, also because their military collection is from the 2009 season. he picked quite a few jackets from that collection, like the ones with the pointy shoulders and that one with the studs. so i would date the pic there somewhere.

no double, it's mike.  :mrgreen:  

[attachment=0:1oyp2c96]wow[1].jpg[/attachment:1oyp2c96]

I'm sooooooo sorry but I HAVE to say this about that beautiful picture: OH-MY-GOD!!!!
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: teine21 on July 29, 2010, 06:20:34 PM
Just look for pics where you can see his brothers' or his father's chest hair & see what theirs look like. IMO I think analyzing his chest hair is just silly though, just like the people who made up those stories of him having every single chest hair & facial hair implanted, lol WTH? I've seen African American men who have long wavy chest hair like that & some who don't have any at all. It just depends.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 29, 2010, 06:29:21 PM
Um.. since when do white men have straight chest hair????    All the white men i know have curly chest hair.  Ive never seen straight chest hair.


And i agree with an earlier poster..  find pics of his father and his brothers with their chest hair on show and compare it.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: teine21 on July 29, 2010, 06:42:22 PM
That chest hair to me look curly NOT straight. It's just not really tight curls, it's sparse. Joe Jackson is reported to have White on his side & Katherine does have Native on her side. & look at the Jackson family's hair, they have long, thick, pretty hair. So why would it be impossible for him to have chest hair like that? Like I said before, to be sure, look at his father & brother's chest hair. That will tell you the answer.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: voiceforthesilent on July 29, 2010, 06:50:27 PM
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
mike and his man-made sweater. btw, i was married to an african american, he has pretty straight chest hair, too. and he sported a huge fro in the 70s. also native americans and caucasian in that family. means all hair possible.
and mike's chest hair is not long and wavy, it's just 'hairs crossing'.

the jacket is a balmain, i believe he got into those between 2008 and 2009, also because their military collection is from the 2009 season. he picked quite a few jackets from that collection, like the ones with the pointy shoulders and that one with the studs. so i would date the pic there somewhere.

no double, it's mike.  :mrgreen:  

[attachment=0:v6mmfnf0]wow[1].jpg[/attachment:v6mmfnf0]

I don't know anything about what his chest hair should look like but keep the pictures coming because the research is great.... :)
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: suspicious mind on July 29, 2010, 08:21:56 PM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
mike and his man-made sweater. btw, i was married to an african american, he has pretty straight chest hair, too. and he sported a huge fro in the 70s. also native americans and caucasian in that family. means all hair possible.
and mike's chest hair is not long and wavy, it's just 'hairs crossing'.

the jacket is a balmain, i believe he got into those between 2008 and 2009, also because their military collection is from the 2009 season. he picked quite a few jackets from that collection, like the ones with the pointy shoulders and that one with the studs. so i would date the pic there somewhere.

no double, it's mike.  :mrgreen:  

[attachment=0:1eeek7c9]wow[1].jpg[/attachment:1eeek7c9]

I don't know anything about what his chest hair should look like but keep the pictures coming because the research is great.... :)
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Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: alive on July 29, 2010, 08:43:53 PM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
mike and his man-made sweater. btw, i was married to an african american, he has pretty straight chest hair, too. and he sported a huge fro in the 70s. also native americans and caucasian in that family. means all hair possible.
and mike's chest hair is not long and wavy, it's just 'hairs crossing'.

the jacket is a balmain, i believe he got into those between 2008 and 2009, also because their military collection is from the 2009 season. he picked quite a few jackets from that collection, like the ones with the pointy shoulders and that one with the studs. so i would date the pic there somewhere.

no double, it's mike.  :mrgreen:  

[attachment=0:1ut2abb2]wow[1].jpg[/attachment:1ut2abb2]

I don't know anything about what his chest hair should look like but keep the pictures coming because the research is great.... :)


OMG...that made me laugh...and I so agree.  I think there should be lots of research on this topic  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Hazzely on July 29, 2010, 11:03:19 PM
That IS Michael

(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5278/michaelperformsearthson.jpg) (http://img193.imageshack.us/i/michaelperformsearthson.jpg/)

Closer look: http://tiny.cc/n7adb (http://tiny.cc/n7adb)
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: mykidsmum on July 29, 2010, 11:35:19 PM
I can see where you are coming from but you are absolutely wrong.  First, Vitiligo effects the pigment cells of the body, what does hair have?  Pigment cells.  We have all heard that vitiligo can turn hair white as well (not all the time) but it also effects the hair structure!  Pigment cells are deposited in the hair as it is forming in the bulb and hardens as it grows.  Lack of pigment, especially in those with LOTS of it, such as African Americans, can have structure changes in the hair when color pigment is no longer present in the amounts it was...(it can still be present in the hair and not in the skin)
Second....Michael has Native American in his blood, since I am one, I can comment on that, Natives are by nature pretty hairless and of straight body hair. (of course there are exceptions to every rule) What does this have to do with body hair and MJ?  First off, MJ is a black man who never had "nappy" hair.  He had very curly hair but it was never course or kinky...Hair shape is determined by the shape of the hair follicle itself and characteristics of "nappy" hair is that it is the follicle is flat causing the hair shaft to be flat as it is being formed and hardened.  This sounds strange but true.  Michaels hair shaft was not flat causing kinks and naps, it was round...this is important because this type of hair can easily be straightened....if you see pictures of him in that famous shot him all wet during his Afro days, his Afro is down from the water and in curls, not "naps"  There are a few early pictures of MJ (say say say pics with paul) where you can see his belly hair and it is curly but not too tight, not naps.  Wearing clothing thru the day can straighten body hair as the day goes on and is easier done on people whose hair shaft is round rather than flat.  MJ shaved his chest hair by the way...I have seen younger pics of him where you can see the stubble and even one where it's not shaved, its a younger pic so the area is still small...no "middle age spread" of hair...LOL
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Christiana on July 30, 2010, 12:08:52 AM
IMO, that is DEFINITELY Michael. There are lots of pics with MJ showing his chest hair (lucky for us). Here are some. (And while I think it's odd that we're debating Michael's chest hair, I was happy do some research myself!)

Japan, 2006
(http://a.imageshack.us/img36/2668/chestredbracelet.jpg)

One More Chance Video Shoot, 2003
(http://www.mjbackstage.be/photos/albums/userpics/OMC25.jpg)

Beverly Hills, 2009
(http://a.imageshack.us/img716/8070/chest2009.jpg)
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on July 30, 2010, 12:12:38 AM
i have a friend who's black and his chest hair looks like MJ's, it's wavy, not straight.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Sangre on July 30, 2010, 03:00:01 AM
This post cracks me up. We haven't gotten anything to investigate lately so now we're just analyzing chest hair?

It's Michael on the photo, for sure.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Datroot on July 30, 2010, 04:52:12 AM
Quote from: "mykidsmum"
I can see where you are coming from but you are absolutely wrong.  First, Vitiligo effects the pigment cells of the body, what does hair have?  Pigment cells.  We have all heard that vitiligo can turn hair white as well (not all the time) but it also effects the hair structure!  Pigment cells are deposited in the hair as it is forming in the bulb and hardens as it grows.  Lack of pigment, especially in those with LOTS of it, such as African Americans, can have structure changes in the hair when color pigment is no longer present in the amounts it was...(it can still be present in the hair and not in the skin)
Second....Michael has Native American in his blood, since I am one, I can comment on that, Natives are by nature pretty hairless and of straight body hair. (of course there are exceptions to every rule) What does this have to do with body hair and MJ?  First off, MJ is a black man who never had "nappy" hair.  He had very curly hair but it was never course or kinky...Hair shape is determined by the shape of the hair follicle itself and characteristics of "nappy" hair is that it is the follicle is flat causing the hair shaft to be flat as it is being formed and hardened.  This sounds strange but true.  Michaels hair shaft was not flat causing kinks and naps, it was round...this is important because this type of hair can easily be straightened....if you see pictures of him in that famous shot him all wet during his Afro days, his Afro is down from the water and in curls, not "naps"  There are a few early pictures of MJ (say say say pics with paul) where you can see his belly hair and it is curly but not too tight, not naps.  Wearing clothing thru the day can straighten body hair as the day goes on and is easier done on people whose hair shaft is round rather than flat.  MJ shaved his chest hair by the way...I have seen younger pics of him where you can see the stubble and even one where it's not shaved, its a younger pic so the area is still small...no "middle age spread" of hair...LOL

My sister in law as it on her body and in her hair - she has had grey streaks in her hair from birth and so do her three children so I agree with what you are saying.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: curls on July 30, 2010, 05:14:53 AM
Quote from: "Sangre"
This post cracks me up. We haven't gotten anything to investigate lately so now we're just analyzing chest hair?

It's Michael on the photo, for sure.

I agree, I've seen discussions on nostrils, ears, teeth, wrists, stubble, navel, fingers + nails etc etc .... now chest hair! Give the man a break!  :oops:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: ConfusedLOVE on July 30, 2010, 07:31:29 AM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
mike and his man-made sweater. btw, i was married to an african american, he has pretty straight chest hair, too. and he sported a huge fro in the 70s. also native americans and caucasian in that family. means all hair possible.
and mike's chest hair is not long and wavy, it's just 'hairs crossing'.

the jacket is a balmain, i believe he got into those between 2008 and 2009, also because their military collection is from the 2009 season. he picked quite a few jackets from that collection, like the ones with the pointy shoulders and that one with the studs. so i would date the pic there somewhere.

no double, it's mike.  :mrgreen:  

[attachment=0:jj6dmei3]wow[1].jpg[/attachment:jj6dmei3]

I don't know anything about what his chest hair should look like but keep the pictures coming because the research is great.... :)
I agree.  I know nothing about men's chest hair, but if it involves having to look at Mike and his chest closer then bring on the pics! ;)
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: suspicious mind on July 30, 2010, 08:18:15 AM
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
mike and his man-made sweater. btw, i was married to an african american, he has pretty straight chest hair, too. and he sported a huge fro in the 70s. also native americans and caucasian in that family. means all hair possible.
and mike's chest hair is not long and wavy, it's just 'hairs crossing'.

the jacket is a balmain, i believe he got into those between 2008 and 2009, also because their military collection is from the 2009 season. he picked quite a few jackets from that collection, like the ones with the pointy shoulders and that one with the studs. so i would date the pic there somewhere.

no double, it's mike.  :mrgreen:  

[attachment=0:2fmdf3q2]wow[1].jpg[/attachment:2fmdf3q2]


                  let us pray

deliver us from the evil posters who lead us into temptation . forgive them they know not what they do.

and one more thing.

hhhhhaaaaaaaavvvvvvvveeeeeeeee    mmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeerrrrrrrcccccyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 :oops:  :lol:  ;)  :o  :oops:  ;)  :lol:  :o  :P  :oops:  ;)  :o  :lol:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: icebluestarlight on July 30, 2010, 09:04:54 AM
My ex husband is black and he had "wooly" looking chest hair but he kept shaving it off cos I didnt like it and it did go straight.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Speechless_250609 on July 30, 2010, 09:06:03 AM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
mike and his man-made sweater. btw, i was married to an african american, he has pretty straight chest hair, too. and he sported a huge fro in the 70s. also native americans and caucasian in that family. means all hair possible.
and mike's chest hair is not long and wavy, it's just 'hairs crossing'.

the jacket is a balmain, i believe he got into those between 2008 and 2009, also because their military collection is from the 2009 season. he picked quite a few jackets from that collection, like the ones with the pointy shoulders and that one with the studs. so i would date the pic there somewhere.

no double, it's mike.  :mrgreen:  

[attachment=0:bpurmyhv]wow[1].jpg[/attachment:bpurmyhv]


                  let us pray

deliver us from the evil posters who lead us into temptation . forgive them they know not what they do.

and one more thing.

hhhhhaaaaaaaavvvvvvvveeeeeeeee    mmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeerrrrrrrcccccyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 :oops:  :lol:  ;)  :o  :oops:  ;)  :lol:  :o  :P  :oops:  ;)  :o  :lol:


You totally had me ROTFL with this one!!!!!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Have mercy is right! Whoo...it's getting hot in here!!!!  :oops:  :oops:  ;)
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: frogh777 on July 30, 2010, 09:31:20 AM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
mike and his man-made sweater. btw, i was married to an african american, he has pretty straight chest hair, too. and he sported a huge fro in the 70s. also native americans and caucasian in that family. means all hair possible.
and mike's chest hair is not long and wavy, it's just 'hairs crossing'.

the jacket is a balmain, i believe he got into those between 2008 and 2009, also because their military collection is from the 2009 season. he picked quite a few jackets from that collection, like the ones with the pointy shoulders and that one with the studs. so i would date the pic there somewhere.

no double, it's mike.  :mrgreen:  

[attachment=0:1faaznq8]wow[1].jpg[/attachment:1faaznq8]


                  let us pray

deliver us from the evil posters who lead us into temptation . forgive them they know not what they do.

and one more thing.

hhhhhaaaaaaaavvvvvvvveeeeeeeee    mmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeerrrrrrrcccccyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 :oops:  :lol:  ;)  :o  :oops:  ;)  :lol:  :o  :P  :oops:  ;)  :o  :lol:

WTF is wrong with you?
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: tabloidburn on July 30, 2010, 03:44:58 PM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
mike and his man-made sweater. btw, i was married to an african american, he has pretty straight chest hair, too. and he sported a huge fro in the 70s. also native americans and caucasian in that family. means all hair possible.
and mike's chest hair is not long and wavy, it's just 'hairs crossing'.

the jacket is a balmain, i believe he got into those between 2008 and 2009, also because their military collection is from the 2009 season. he picked quite a few jackets from that collection, like the ones with the pointy shoulders and that one with the studs. so i would date the pic there somewhere.

no double, it's mike.  :mrgreen:  

[attachment=0:btyne92v]wow[1].jpg[/attachment:btyne92v]


                  let us pray

deliver us from the evil posters who lead us into temptation . forgive them they know not what they do.
and one more thing.

hhhhhaaaaaaaavvvvvvvveeeeeeeee    mmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeerrrrrrrcccccyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 :oops:  :lol:  ;)  :o  :oops:  ;)  :lol:  :o  :P  :oops:  ;)  :o  :lol:

lol...i'm sorry, didn't wanna cause any distress here. i really just posted the pic for the chesthair. as proof that he indeed had it and not always shaved it off. can't blame me for mike being hawt... ;)

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: rowdyangel on July 30, 2010, 03:50:29 PM
100% Michael in my opinion.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: tabloidburn on July 30, 2010, 03:51:39 PM
Quote from: "curls"
Ooh errr ...tabloidburn, the jacket seems to have disappeared from your pic!!!!   :D  :lol:  :o

lol...again: i posted the pic for 'proof of chest hair existence'. and my comment referred to the initial pic with mike wearing the balmain jacket. i know that the jacket is 'missing' cuz the pic i posted is somewhere from the 80s! geeez... :lol:  :lol:   :lol:  

and it doesn't mean that this thread is gonna turn into a 'drooling ground' now, 'k?  ;)

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: suspicious mind on July 30, 2010, 05:43:10 PM
i apoligise for my moment of weakness.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Investigator on July 31, 2010, 12:49:44 AM
It's Barry Shaw. 100%. 'This' Michael looks identical to the one who couldn't sing at the WMA's, as well as to the Michael in the MTV interview. Also, notice when it's Barry, he doesn't allow closeups. He simply does not like when he's photographed up close, and for good reason...first of all, this guy is a different shade then Michael. He's got this natural lighter tone about him that makes me question who I'm looking at, really. He's also 'veinier' ... Look around the eyes, Michael has strong and mature eyes, yet this guy seems a little defeated in his expression, like his face is 'stuck' to look the way it does. The differences are as subtle as those between the 2 Paul McCartney (Which I can't believe no one on this forum has yet brought up, in relation to the doubles actually existing, and all) --> but they're definitely there...thoughts?

(For those who don't know about the Paul Hoax, Id suggest starting here:
http://digilander.libero.it/jamespaul/fc1.html (http://digilander.libero.it/jamespaul/fc1.html) )
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Tina K. on July 31, 2010, 01:45:15 AM
Quote from: "Investigator"
It's Barry Shaw. 100%. 'This' Michael looks identical to the one who couldn't sing at the WMA's, as well as to the Michael in the MTV interview. Also, notice when it's Barry, he doesn't allow closeups. He simply does not like when he's photographed up close, and for good reason...first of all, this guy is a different shade then Michael. He's got this natural lighter tone about him that makes me question who I'm looking at, really. He's also 'veinier' ... Look around the eyes, Michael has strong and mature eyes, yet this guy seems a little defeated in his expression, like his face is 'stuck' to look the way it does. The differences are as subtle as those between the 2 Paul McCartney (Which I can't believe no one on this forum has yet brought up, in relation to the doubles actually existing, and all) --> but they're definitely there...thoughts?

(For those who don't know about the Paul Hoax, Id suggest starting here:
http://digilander.libero.it/jamespaul/fc1.html (http://digilander.libero.it/jamespaul/fc1.html) )


This Barry Shaw dude is totally FAKE  :evil:  He is SO false, and is only trying to cause trouble between MJ fans. I can't believe, that so many people really believe his story.Come on, he won't show himself  :?  He only claims, that he was MJ's double for years, and everybody buys his story, geeeez........
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Sangre on July 31, 2010, 02:12:41 AM
Quote from: "Investigator"
It's Barry Shaw. 100%. 'This' Michael looks identical to the one who couldn't sing at the WMA's, as well as to the Michael in the MTV interview. Also, notice when it's Barry, he doesn't allow closeups. He simply does not like when he's photographed up close, and for good reason...first of all, this guy is a different shade then Michael. He's got this natural lighter tone about him that makes me question who I'm looking at, really. He's also 'veinier' ... Look around the eyes, Michael has strong and mature eyes, yet this guy seems a little defeated in his expression, like his face is 'stuck' to look the way it does. The differences are as subtle as those between the 2 Paul McCartney (Which I can't believe no one on this forum has yet brought up, in relation to the doubles actually existing, and all) --> but they're definitely there...thoughts?

(For those who don't know about the Paul Hoax, Id suggest starting here:
http://digilander.libero.it/jamespaul/fc1.html (http://digilander.libero.it/jamespaul/fc1.html) )

Are you kidding me?  :evil: That is Michael Jackson on the picture and you're 'mistaking' him for a pathetic fake called Barry Shaw?? Low.

And saying it's another man just because he doesn't want a camera shoved right into his face is...I don't know what it is! MJ wanted privacy and it was important for him how he appeared on the screen.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Sophele on July 31, 2010, 04:19:39 AM
okay, i'll start my lil photosession with the original picture - not cropped and altered in aspect of the colors:

(http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/3650/021unm.jpg) (http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8421/021pa.jpg)

here is another recent picture of michael from 2009 where you can see his chesthair:
(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4696/mjcrop.jpg) (http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/4696/mjcrop.jpg)

and here in 2001:
(http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/4162/30msg.jpg) (http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4162/30msg.jpg)

he did shave it from time to time - like during the BET awards in 2003 - but he did miss a few hairs at the bottom  ;)
(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3770/030ys.jpg) (http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2518/030k.jpg)

soo, now let's take a quick look at his other body hair:

armpits:
(http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/3193/dsc09899a.jpg) (http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3193/dsc09899a.jpg)

belly:
(http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/8424/mjshirt1.jpg) (http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/8424/mjshirt1.jpg)

legs:
(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/1418/spinnenbiss.jpg)
(and yes, that is michaels leg: (http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9475/spinnenbissiii.jpg))

i think the pictures from his leg and armpit proves best that he didn't have tight curly body hair but rather a little straigther hair.
to me it is definitely michael in the picture posted by the OP. all mike!  :)
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: curls on July 31, 2010, 04:28:59 AM
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
Quote from: "curls"
Ooh errr ...tabloidburn, the jacket seems to have disappeared from your pic!!!!   :D  :lol:  :o

lol...again: i posted the pic for 'proof of chest hair existence'. and my comment referred to the initial pic with mike wearing the balmain jacket. i know that the jacket is 'missing' cuz the pic i posted is somewhere from the 80s! geeez... :lol:  :lol:   :lol:  

and it doesn't mean that this thread is gonna turn into a 'drooling ground' now, 'k?  ;)

 :mrgreen:

What I want to know is how come you so handily had that pic available!!!!  :lol:  :oops:  :lol:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: tabloidburn on July 31, 2010, 08:15:49 AM
Quote from: "curls"
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
Quote from: "curls"
Ooh errr ...tabloidburn, the jacket seems to have disappeared from your pic!!!!   :D  :lol:  :o

lol...again: i posted the pic for 'proof of chest hair existence'. and my comment referred to the initial pic with mike wearing the balmain jacket. i know that the jacket is 'missing' cuz the pic i posted is somewhere from the 80s! geeez... :lol:  :lol:   :lol:  

and it doesn't mean that this thread is gonna turn into a 'drooling ground' now, 'k?  ;)

 :mrgreen:

What I want to know is how come you so handily had that pic available!!!!  :lol:  :oops:  :lol:


i contribute to the 'mega funny pics' thread, so i have a wide range of pics on my harddrive for captioning purposes. i remembered the chesthair on that shot, so i just pulled it up. i admit, this is one, that's kinda 'stuck in my head', i'm only human... ;)  
 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on July 31, 2010, 09:41:27 AM
Okay those pics are HOT and they are all Michael as well
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: suspicious mind on July 31, 2010, 07:39:53 PM
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
Quote from: "curls"
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
Quote from: "curls"
Ooh errr ...tabloidburn, the jacket seems to have disappeared from your pic!!!!   :D  :lol:  :o

lol...again: i posted the pic for 'proof of chest hair existence'. and my comment referred to the initial pic with mike wearing the balmain jacket. i know that the jacket is 'missing' cuz the pic i posted is somewhere from the 80s! geeez... :lol:  :lol:   :lol:  

and it doesn't mean that this thread is gonna turn into a 'drooling ground' now, 'k?  ;)

 :mrgreen:

What I want to know is how come you so handily had that pic available!!!!  :lol:  :oops:  :lol:


i contribute to the 'mega funny pics' thread, so i have a wide range of pics on my harddrive for captioning purposes. i remembered the chesthair on that shot, so i just pulled it up. i admit, this is one, that's kinda 'stuck in my head', i'm only human... ;)  
 :mrgreen:
i'm using that as my defense ;)
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: 2MuchMJLuv on August 04, 2010, 12:55:04 AM
I concur. Curly, straight----it's all GREAT!!!


  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
mike and his man-made sweater. btw, i was married to an african american, he has pretty straight chest hair, too. and he sported a huge fro in the 70s. also native americans and caucasian in that family. means all hair possible.
and mike's chest hair is not long and wavy, it's just 'hairs crossing'.

the jacket is a balmain, i believe he got into those between 2008 and 2009, also because their military collection is from the 2009 season. he picked quite a few jackets from that collection, like the ones with the pointy shoulders and that one with the studs. so i would date the pic there somewhere.

no double, it's mike.  :mrgreen:  

[attachment=0:273k7kqc]wow[1].jpg[/attachment:273k7kqc]

I don't know anything about what his chest hair should look like but keep the pictures coming because the research is great.... :)
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: darkchild on August 04, 2010, 11:05:02 PM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
mike and his man-made sweater. btw, i was married to an african american, he has pretty straight chest hair, too. and he sported a huge fro in the 70s. also native americans and caucasian in that family. means all hair possible.
and mike's chest hair is not long and wavy, it's just 'hairs crossing'.

the jacket is a balmain, i believe he got into those between 2008 and 2009, also because their military collection is from the 2009 season. he picked quite a few jackets from that collection, like the ones with the pointy shoulders and that one with the studs. so i would date the pic there somewhere.

no double, it's mike.  :mrgreen:  

[attachment=0:3tewu0f6]wow[1].jpg[/attachment:3tewu0f6]

I don't know anything about what his chest hair should look like but keep the pictures coming because the research is great.... :)
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 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

This post is so cute.  It made me giggle. :lol:   I think it is MJ! He is so gorgeous in all the piccies on the post.  I love it! :)
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: iMISSYOUMJ on August 05, 2010, 10:28:03 AM
I can't believe that we're here discussing about Mike's chest hair.  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Tina K. on August 05, 2010, 10:32:06 AM
Quote from: "iMISSYOUMJ"
I can't believe that we're here discussing about Mike's chest hair.  :lol:  :lol:


 :lol: maybe we are bored.....
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: suspicious mind on August 05, 2010, 10:33:53 AM
sometimes we scare me :shock:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: suesuzzfaithkeeper on August 05, 2010, 11:14:22 AM
off topic...
the picture of mike with the red flame shirt on...
does anyone know what it spells out??.. :?
i dont think ive ever noticed that it spelled out something :oops:
hope someone can let me know..
huggs n keep the faith
suzz
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: whisper9396 on August 05, 2010, 03:23:53 PM
Did you see this pic? If you did - sorry.
(http://s52.radikal.ru/i135/1003/58/31f9c231c6b8.jpg)
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: darkchild on August 05, 2010, 10:31:26 PM
Quote from: "whisper9396"
Did you see this pic? If you did - sorry.
(http://s52.radikal.ru/i135/1003/58/31f9c231c6b8.jpg)

I have seen these photo comparsions.  I love it and the website.  Very interesting and a very well-written website about Michael Jackson justice.

God bless you for sharing the photos! :)
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Sandy on August 06, 2010, 09:32:14 AM
Quote from: "darkchild"
Quote from: "whisper9396"
Did you see this pic? If you did - sorry.
(http://s52.radikal.ru/i135/1003/58/31f9c231c6b8.jpg)

I have seen these photo comparsions.  I love it and the website.  Very interesting and a very well-written website about Michael Jackson justice.

God bless you for sharing the photos! :)

All Michael.  :roll:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: AgentBJ on August 06, 2010, 10:54:07 AM
No. O2 is not Michael... :roll:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Sandy on August 06, 2010, 11:58:12 AM
Quote from: "AgentBJ"
No. O2 is not Michael... :roll:

Of course he is. He looks axactly like him. Are you blind?
And why should Michael send a double? That makes no sense.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: liberiangirl96 on August 06, 2010, 02:00:11 PM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
sometimes we scare me :shock:
what :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: *Mo* on August 06, 2010, 02:08:46 PM
Quote from: "Sandy"
Quote from: "AgentBJ"
No. O2 is not Michael... :roll:

Of course he is. He looks axactly like him. Are you blind?
And why should Michael send a double? That makes no sense.

No need to be rude, no one asked you if you are blind for not seeing O2 dude is not Mike, right..?

Why wouldn't he send a double..?  I could come with more than a few answers to that question, but I won't go into the things that made it clear to me that O2 dude is a double again.  Been there, done that, and it's a never ending debate.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on August 06, 2010, 02:19:43 PM
Quote from: "Sandy"
Quote from: "AgentBJ"
No. O2 is not Michael... :roll:

Of course he is. He looks axactly like him. Are you blind?
And why should Michael send a double? That makes no sense.
Except for the unnecessary remark I agree with u.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Sandy on August 06, 2010, 04:11:17 PM
OK. Sorry. It will not happen again.

What the O2 speech concerns.
Wouldn't it be a big risc, that the fans which are standing right in front of their star, would expose him as a double?
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: suspicious mind on August 06, 2010, 10:25:32 PM
Quote from: "iMISSYOUMJ"
I can't believe that we're here discussing about Mike's chest hair.  :lol:  :lol:

 hair! we were looking for hair. oh  geez guess i have to start all over now   ;)
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: MV on August 08, 2010, 04:28:50 PM
Quote from: "whisper9396"
Did you see this pic? If you did - sorry.
(http://s52.radikal.ru/i135/1003/58/31f9c231c6b8.jpg)
 Half of the pictures are comparison of MJ's nose. Most of us know that MJ's nose was little bit different from each sides. Someone who made picture maybe wanted to pretend there would be a radical difference.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: CC on August 08, 2010, 09:34:35 PM
I THINK IS ALL MJ AND DON´T WANT TO MAKE A NEW TOPIC ABOUT O2 GUY, BUT I HAVE THIS PICTURE AND I DOUBT ABOUT THE O2 GUY SO, I´M NOT SURE ABOUT ALL THIS AND NEVER WILL BE...
 :roll:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: suesuzzfaithkeeper on August 08, 2010, 09:46:00 PM
hey its me again  :oops:
can anyone please tell me what the saying is on michael red flame black n red t-shirt on the first page??!!..plz!!...i believe its on the first page  :oops: i know it spells out something but can not figure it out...
thank you
huggs n faith to all
suzz :D
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: AgentBJ on August 09, 2010, 10:43:28 AM
Quote from: "Sandy"
Quote from: "AgentBJ"
No. O2 is not Michael... :roll:

Of course he is. He looks axactly like him. Are you blind?
And why should Michael send a double? That makes no sense.

Hey! Calm down, yeah?
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: alovesmichael on August 09, 2010, 11:28:46 AM
Just wanted to add an insignificant detail, the jacket in the OP is Givenchy and not Balmain as someone mentioned. I know I'm being silly  :oops:  lol, but just wanted to get all facts right  :D . He did seem very infautuated with the Balmain jackets though (women's collection). Yup, Mike's always been fierce  ;) .
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: *Mo* on August 09, 2010, 11:40:49 AM
Quote from: "Sandy"
OK. Sorry. It will not happen again.

What the O2 speech concerns.
Wouldn't it be a big risc, that the fans which are standing right in front of their star, would expose him as a double?

He has been using doubles for years and his fans never noticed it, so why all of a sudden would they notice it now?

Here's a nice comparison pic for you, pics were taken in 1989 and 1990...

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/earscomp01.jpg)

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/earscomp02.jpg)
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: rasyte on August 09, 2010, 12:12:19 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "Sandy"
OK. Sorry. It will not happen again.

What the O2 speech concerns.
Wouldn't it be a big risc, that the fans which are standing right in front of their star, would expose him as a double?

He has been using doubles for years and his fans never noticed it, so why all of a sudden would they notice it now?

Here's a nice comparison pic for you, pics were taken in 1989 and 1990...

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/earscomp01.jpg)

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/earscomp02.jpg)

OMG... they are soooo different !!!  but witch one is real MJ now??  :roll:  :cry:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on August 09, 2010, 12:13:35 PM
It's the same person. Diffrent lighting, creating or taking away shadow.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: rasyte on August 09, 2010, 12:26:50 PM
Quote from: "Alem (Thetruth)"
It's the same person. Diffrent lighting, creating or taking away shadow.

no! believe me! I'm attending  art school and I know all lightening   tricks.. that's not lightening... look at his ears ... look very closely...  and form of this teeth...  what is really not lightening...  
I'm in shook right now... I didn't believe that he using impersonators for so long time.. but I have to admit it...   and it makes me cry... I cant  believe he fooled us for such a long time!  :o  :cry:    omg...  :cry:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Puff on August 09, 2010, 12:35:15 PM
Quote from: "Alem (Thetruth)"
It's the same person. Diffrent lighting, creating or taking away shadow.

No way... The ears are totally different....
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Datroot on August 09, 2010, 12:38:06 PM
Its quite scary actually - if you don't look at the ears, you see exactly the same person.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: *Mo* on August 09, 2010, 12:47:06 PM
Quote from: "Alem (Thetruth)"
It's the same person. Diffrent lighting, creating or taking away shadow.

Since when can lighting and shadow create a little "thingy" like this..?

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/earthingy.jpg)

Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: foreye on August 09, 2010, 02:37:14 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "Sandy"
OK. Sorry. It will not happen again.

What the O2 speech concerns.
Wouldn't it be a big risc, that the fans which are standing right in front of their star, would expose him as a double?

He has been using doubles for years and his fans never noticed it, so why all of a sudden would they notice it now?

Here's a nice comparison pic for you, pics were taken in 1989 and 1990...

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/earscomp01.jpg)

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/earscomp02.jpg)

ok, that's really creepy :roll:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: foreye on August 09, 2010, 02:37:57 PM
Quote from: "rasyte"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "Sandy"
OK. Sorry. It will not happen again.

What the O2 speech concerns.
Wouldn't it be a big risc, that the fans which are standing right in front of their star, would expose him as a double?

He has been using doubles for years and his fans never noticed it, so why all of a sudden would they notice it now?

Here's a nice comparison pic for you, pics were taken in 1989 and 1990...

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/earscomp01.jpg)

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/earscomp02.jpg)

OMG... they are soooo different !!!  but witch one is real MJ now??  :roll:  :cry:
the one right! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on August 09, 2010, 03:07:48 PM
I disagree! I found a pitcure of Michael from the same day and there is clearly diffrent angels and lighting which makes you think it's diffrent ears. But it's the same and it is Michael all the way! Will provide you with a pic which demonstrates my opinion.
Darn! I can't get the image to show.  :lol:

here is a link
http://img186.imageshack.us/i/earcomparasion.png/ (http://img186.imageshack.us/i/earcomparasion.png/)
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Puff on August 09, 2010, 03:24:59 PM
Quote from: "Alem (Thetruth)"
I disagree! I found a pitcure of Michael from the same day and there is clearly diffrent angels and lighting which makes you think it's diffrent ears. But it's the same and it is Michael all the way! Will provide you with a pic which demonstrates my opinion.
Darn! I can't get the image to show.  :lol:

here is a link
http://img186.imageshack.us/i/earcomparasion.png/ (http://img186.imageshack.us/i/earcomparasion.png/)

(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/6038/schermata20100809a22230.png)

it's not the same day.. The jacket is different and also the make-up...
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on August 09, 2010, 03:36:13 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Here's a nice comparison pic for you, pics were taken in 1989 and 1990...

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/earscomp01.jpg)

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/earscomp02.jpg)
[/b]

There are several things wrong with comparing these two photographs.

1. The two pictures are taken from completely different angles. So the ears can not be compared exactly. This difference in angle can make it appear that there are differences in shape etc when there may not be.

2. Michael's head is tilted differently in the two photographs, this again creates angle differences.

3. Lighting and shadow must be considered as the conditions under which each photograph was taken are also different. Due to angles already mentioned in points 1 & 2 this can lead to what may at first appear to be differences when there may not be any.

4. The pictures are different sizes. This makes the ears and anything that may distinguish them unable to be compared adequately.

To sum it up, you can not compare any photograph unless they are taken from exactly the same position, the head must also be in the same position, the lighting conditions must be the same and the size of the pictures also has to be the same. Distortions can be caused by any of these and there are probably other things to consider as well.

Even the following comparison is not accurate due to the above mentioned flaws.

(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/Ears.jpg)

(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/Ears1.jpg)

(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/Ears2.jpg)

(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/Ears3.jpg)

(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/Ears4.jpg)
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: foreye on August 09, 2010, 04:36:04 PM
i don't care what anybody says, Michael used doubles throughout his whole career. I've never seen a celebrity with different shape ears ever time he or she is in public except Michael. Please tell me why his ears always look different and don't tell me because of the angel that's straight bullshit. You can post will smith ears in every angel and i bet you his ears would looked exactly the same :roll:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on August 09, 2010, 04:40:29 PM
Quote from: "foreye"
i don't care what anybody says, Michael used doubles throughout his whole career. I've never seen a celebrity with different shape ears ever time he or she is in public except Michael. Please tell me why his ears always look different and don't tell me because of the angel that's straight bullshit. You can post will smith ears in every angel and i bet you his ears would looked exactly the same :roll:
Why are you being hostile? yeez
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on August 09, 2010, 04:41:15 PM
Quote from: "Puff"
Quote from: "Alem (Thetruth)"
I disagree! I found a pitcure of Michael from the same day and there is clearly diffrent angels and lighting which makes you think it's diffrent ears. But it's the same and it is Michael all the way! Will provide you with a pic which demonstrates my opinion.
Darn! I can't get the image to show.  :lol:

here is a link
http://img186.imageshack.us/i/earcomparasion.png/ (http://img186.imageshack.us/i/earcomparasion.png/)

(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/6038/schermata20100809a22230.png)

it's not the same day.. The jacket is different and also the make-up...
You missunderstood. The first and last pitchure is from the same day.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: foreye on August 09, 2010, 04:44:02 PM
:roll: I am sick of yall saying the angel crap bullshit

SAME DAMN ANGEL. WHY IS HALF OF HIS EAR IS MISSING[attachment=0:3nb181mv]MJEARS.jpg[/attachment:3nb181mv]
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: foreye on August 09, 2010, 04:49:38 PM
it sure does because that guy is  not MICHAEL


[attachment=0:3l6zxv7g]mjers2.jpg[/attachment:3l6zxv7g]
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Sandy on August 09, 2010, 05:04:32 PM
This guy IS Michael. When will this perpetual comparing finally stop?  :roll:
Just because the ear looks different, it doesn't mean that this man isn't Michael.
The compare of the ears is ridiculous. It will have reasons why they look like as they look.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: nefari on August 09, 2010, 05:12:28 PM
Michael Joe and Michael Joseph
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: foreye on August 09, 2010, 05:16:42 PM
Quote from: "Sandy"
This guy IS Michael. When will this perpetual comparing finally stop?  :roll:
Just because the ear looks different, it doesn't mean that this man isn't Michael.
The compare of the ears is ridiculous. It will have reasons why they look like as they look.
oh really? So can explain to me why half of his ear is missing?
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on August 09, 2010, 05:24:06 PM
Quote from: "foreye"
it sure does because that guy is  not MICHAEL


[attachment=0:2e4lfeh0]mjers2.jpg[/attachment:2e4lfeh0]

Here is the story that goes with that photo.

SHOCKING damage to MICHAEL JACKSON’s ear emerged in a close-up picture yesterday. Bits of skin and cartilage have been hacked off for years to rebuild the Bad star’s nose. Jacko has managed to hide the damage under his long hair since the late 1990s when he first had tissue removed for his reshaped hooter.

The photo taken just days ago in Beverly Hills, California, exposes the true extent of the damage. But our inset picture from 1997 shows Jacko, now suffering skin cancer, with an undamaged ear in Cannes, France.

Douglas McGeorge, President of the British Association of Aesthetic Plastic Surgeons, said the shape of Jacko’s left ear was consistent with cartilage removal from the shell. The NHS do a similar op, usually to correct noses bent in accidents.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/usa/article2475027.ece

There are several other tabloid stories including FOX News that report that Michael had cartilage taken from his ear to repair his nose. This has never been confirmed.

EXCLUSIVE: DOC REVEALS SECRETS OF SURGERY Ears where Jacko's nose came from
BY TRACY CONNOR DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Sunday, August 22th 2004, 1:70AM

 MICHAEL JACKSON claims he had only two plastic surgeries - but now a top doctor is revealing the singer went under the knife so many times that a piece of his ear had to be used to shore up his nose.

At his famous clinic in Germany, Mang told celebrity interviewer Daphne Barak how he stole a sliver of cartilage from Jackson's ear and transplanted it in the tip of his nose.

In Mang's opinion, the work Jackson had done on his face early in his career - a fairly subtle slimming of his nose - turned out fine. "The doctor should have stopped after the album 'Thriller [in 1982].' " Mang said. "Because after 'Thriller,' Michael Jackson was very good-looking, all was okay."

"We decided that Michael Jackson, in reconstructive surgery of the nose, should get ear cartilage," Mang said. "You make a cut here on the skin of the ear and then you take out a big piece of the cartilage on the side. "Then you make a cut on the nose and put [the cartilage] there. It's a wonderful material to reconstruct noses and repair it."

The operation, which was performed in Hoefflin's clinic, took about two hours, and then Jackson's nose was in bandages for about two weeks, Mang said. Mang pronounced the reconstruction a success. "The nose of Michael Jackson is now fine," he said. "No silicone. It's ear cartilage, and it will be okay."
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/2004/08/22/2004-08-22_exclusive__doc_reveals_secre.html

And then of course we have Arnie Klein from his LKL interview talking about doing further repairs to Michael's face because of poorly done previous plastic surgery.

Michael Jackson 'rebuilt his nose to ease breathing problems'
James Bone in New York July 10, 2009
Michael Jackson rebuilt his nose before his death because extensive plastic surgery had left him with breathing problems, his doctor has disclosed.

Arnold Klein, Jackson’s dermatologist, said that he stopped him from going to a plastic surgeon and began rebuilding his nose and cheeks using fillers last year.

“I thought he had a nice-looking nose... but it got to the point where it was far too thin. It didn’t look natural to me,” Dr Klein told the CNN programme Larry King Live.

“I rebuilt it, using fillers. He was beginning to look like the nose was normal again. And that’s all I wanted — and to regain the breathing passages of his nose, because there was a total collapse of the cartilage.”

Dr Klein had completed work on the singer’s nose but was continuing to treat him for severe acne and scarring from plastic surgery before his planned series of concerts in London. He saw Jackson for the last time just three days before his death.

“I just was trying to get him ready to do the concert, because in the way he looked in his face he wanted it to be absolutely as perfect as it could be,” he said.
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article6676674.ece

None of us can know the extent of the truth in any of these stories. We don't know how much plastic surgery Michael had either. He was seeing Klein regularly is all we know for sure. I honestly do not for an instant believe that Michael was sharing his life and the spotlight with a double, a twin, a doppleganger etc.

There is only one Michael Jackson, he may have used look-alikes to distract large crowds, misdirect paparazzi and illusions/stunts for stage but really that is all.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: foreye on August 09, 2010, 05:27:21 PM
he had surgery on his ears but the next day it was back to normal?? :lol: A super human ear i see :lol: And this picture wasnt taken in 1997, it was taken 2009. And what you wrote doesn't prove anything.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on August 09, 2010, 05:34:49 PM
Quote from: "foreye"
he had surgery on his ears but the next day it was back to normal?? :lol: A super human ear i see :lol: And this picutre want taken in 1997, it was taken 2009
Where is photo showing it is fine the next day?

The article says the "inset" picture was taken in 1997 not the ear picture you posted. The one you posted was taken in June 2009.

Inset Picture

[attachment=0:25840bkt]Inset picture.jpg[/attachment:25840bkt]
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Victor on August 09, 2010, 06:15:18 PM
:roll:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: foreye on August 09, 2010, 06:26:27 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "foreye"
he had surgery on his ears but the next day it was back to normal?? :lol: A super human ear i see :lol: And this picutre want taken in 1997, it was taken 2009
Where is photo showing it is fine the next day?

The article says the "inset" picture was taken in 1997 not the ear picture you posted. The one you posted was taken in June 2009.

Inset Picture

[attachment=0:2e57qq2d]Inset picture.jpg[/attachment:2e57qq2d]
I know that, but what i am saying is. if you followed Michael before his death he was constantly going to the clinic every week and you can see that his ear was normal until that day, half of his ears was missing. So can you please explain how his ears were normal most of the weeks and this particular day half of his ears were gone?
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: missdanipyt on August 09, 2010, 06:54:52 PM
[youtube:24w3j6nv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZvFgmHcP9k&feature=related[/youtube:24w3j6nv]

Watch from 5:00-7:16
I know we've all seen it before, but its just a reminder, about this specific topic. Just because it looks different sometimes, that doesn't mean anything.

The truth is, is that unless youre MJ or one of his doctors, we don't know how many procedures he's had and we don't know the specific date of every single time he had something done. We don't know what he was doing to his ears, he could've been getting work done on them. so what if his ears look different in pictures, a lot of things about his face look different in a lot of pictures haha it doesnt mean anything the same goes with everybody else. the fact is that his appearance was always changing so much (even his hair. he wore wigs, its not fair to compare his hair to be different even if its just the next day) and because of the fact that he changed so often it is my personal opinion that just because something looks different doesnt make me feel like its an entirely different person posing as a double. thats just the way he is.
Even if you disregard every single picture you might think is a double and are left only with the photos you think are Michael, youre still left with a face that is constantly changing. And there's nothing wrong with that because he was always beautiful no matter how he looked.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on August 09, 2010, 07:12:03 PM
If you are so adamant with your beliefs then I am going to let you. IMO you are fooling yourself. Michael always Michael, can’t believe it’s hard to get for some.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: missdanipyt on August 09, 2010, 07:31:27 PM
[youtube:zypt5arc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqOc6LnGPls[/youtube:zypt5arc]

wow i dont know whats up with the video i posted above but its wack this is the one i meant to be watched...
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: suspicious mind on August 09, 2010, 10:15:26 PM
do we have any information on how these  things actually go down or are we relying on information given in reports or interviews from alleged jackson doctors?
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: whisper9396 on August 10, 2010, 03:54:05 PM
Sorry, but there are different ears in TII too.....However, the film was make during  one period of the time. :?:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: suspicious mind on August 10, 2010, 10:24:52 PM
this was much more fun when we were looking at chest hair :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: BambiMJ on August 25, 2010, 01:11:54 PM
I says, which is Michael truth?? …. :P  :P
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: whisper9396 on August 25, 2010, 02:36:35 PM
I think #1,3,5 - one person.
#2 - OMG, I can't believe that this is MJ :?
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: frogh777 on August 26, 2010, 05:05:59 PM
Quote from: "BambiMJ"
I says, which is Michael truth?? …. :P  :P

I saw moonwalker yesterday night.. on a big screen.. There when you see MJ, you just notice he is not changed at al.. I mean, only his hairstyle is different and the colour of his skin. but you see that MJ didn't changed at al.. and the movie is from 1988... but when I compare that with TII or these pictures.. damn,, who is that? I dont recognize MJ!! becuz these men are DOUBLES!![/b]
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: MissG on August 26, 2010, 05:14:51 PM
Quote from: "BambiMJ"
I says, which is Michael truth?? …. :P  :P

To me, no doubt Michael is the one on last pic ;)
His eyes and curls I can never forget.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on August 27, 2010, 12:23:15 AM
"Curls for my girls" guy, is MJ... i think. :oops:
And the guy wearing the red mission lion shirt:

(http://i35.tinypic.com/117u3op.jpg)

but these are just my opinions..  :oops:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: AgentBJ on August 27, 2010, 05:15:24 AM
Quote from: "BambiMJ"
I says, which is Michael truth?? …. :P  :P

Hmm...the last one for sure, but the others... :?
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Sandy on August 27, 2010, 09:23:38 AM
Quote from: "BambiMJ"
I says, which is Michael truth?? …. :P  :P

ALL MICHAEL. :roll:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: SEHF on August 30, 2010, 07:59:52 AM
Quote from: "Sandy"
Quote from: "BambiMJ"
I says, which is Michael truth?? …. :P  :P

ALL MICHAEL. :roll:

+ 12billion
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: frogh777 on August 30, 2010, 12:56:11 PM
Quote from: "SEHF"
Quote from: "Sandy"
Quote from: "BambiMJ"
I says, which is Michael truth?? …. :P  :P

ALL MICHAEL. :roll:

+ 12billion

how dare you to call the second one MJ!!  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on August 30, 2010, 01:36:43 PM
Quote from: "frogh777"
Quote from: "SEHF"
Quote from: "Sandy"
Quote from: "BambiMJ"
I says, which is Michael truth?? …. :P  :P

ALL MICHAEL. :roll:

+ 12billion

how dare you to call the second one MJ!!  :lol:  :lol:
I dare to call the second one Michael. His head shape is strange due to his wig. But his bone structure, cheeks and lips are just the same.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Sandy on August 30, 2010, 02:07:52 PM
Quote from: "Alem (Thetruth)"
Quote from: "frogh777"
Quote from: "SEHF"
Quote from: "Sandy"
Quote from: "BambiMJ"
I says, which is Michael truth?? …. :P  :P

ALL MICHAEL. :roll:

+ 12billion

how dare you to call the second one MJ!!  :lol:  :lol:
I dare to call the second one Michael. His head shape is strange due to his wig. But his bone structure, cheeks and lips are just the same.

Correct.
This pic was made in 2002 at Michael's arrival in Berlin/ Hotel Adlon. I have this on VHS.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: alovesmichael on September 02, 2010, 01:05:44 PM
All Michael but with different wigs/extensions (obviously!  :lol: ).
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on September 02, 2010, 05:55:25 PM
Quote from: "alovesmichael"
All Michael but with different wigs/extensions (obviously!  :lol: ).
You're right. Hair can do so much for the appearance
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: missdanipyt on September 02, 2010, 06:30:12 PM
Quote from: "Alem (Thetruth)"
Quote from: "alovesmichael"
All Michael but with different wigs/extensions (obviously!  :lol: ).
You're right. Hair can do so much for the appearance
That's true! Just look at hannah montana! Nobody recognizes her!  :lol:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: whisper9396 on September 03, 2010, 03:05:27 PM
Hi guyes!
sorr if you saw this pic. But the man from TII don't let me sleep quite. :oops:
I still can't belive that this is MJ. :?
(http://s005.radikal.ru/i211/1002/e3/c7b077c0f065t.jpg)
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on September 03, 2010, 03:13:20 PM
Quote from: "whisper9396"
Hi guyes!
sorr if you saw this pic. But the man from TII don't let me sleep quite. :oops:
I still can't belive that this is MJ. :?
(http://s005.radikal.ru/i211/1002/e3/c7b077c0f065t.jpg)
May I ask you what makes you doubt?
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: whisper9396 on September 04, 2010, 03:13:12 PM
Quote from: "Alem (Thetruth)"
Quote from: "whisper9396"
Hi guyes!
sorr if you saw this pic. But the man from TII don't let me sleep quite. :oops:
I still can't belive that this is MJ. :?
(http://s005.radikal.ru/i211/1002/e3/c7b077c0f065t.jpg)
May I ask you what makes you doubt?

Well,  It can sounds silly, but here both complexion and a bearing, and ears, and hair, and the head form etc. I can't explain...... Simply stranger... When I the first time looked TII I have simply gasped. (As well as MJ on О2). Forgive me for these words, but I haven't   identifyd him almost

sorry for bad Eng.
With love.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on September 07, 2010, 10:07:58 AM
I see. That is Michael Jackson.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on September 07, 2010, 10:37:27 AM
Quote from: "whisper9396"
Quote from: "Alem (Thetruth)"
Quote from: "whisper9396"
Hi guyes!
sorr if you saw this pic. But the man from TII don't let me sleep quite. :oops:
I still can't belive that this is MJ. :?
(http://s005.radikal.ru/i211/1002/e3/c7b077c0f065t.jpg)
May I ask you what makes you doubt?

Well,  It can sounds silly, but here both complexion and a bearing, and ears, and hair, and the head form etc. I can't explain...... Simply stranger... When I the first time looked TII I have simply gasped. (As well as MJ on О2). Forgive me for these words, but I haven't   identifyd him almost

sorry for bad Eng.
With love.
I see Michael as well.

The picture has too much of the colour Green in it. You can also see this from looking at Kenny's complexion.
That is Michael's natural hair, he is not wearing a wig in that picture.
His hair is kind of messy, maybe that is why you think his head is shaped differently when it isn't. :lol:
His ear is covered by his hair, you can only see the top peeking out so there isn't really anything to compare that too.
We already know that Michael had lost some weight so this accounts for some difference in appearance than what fans were used to seeing him look like. Losing weight really does change your overall appearance and in your face too.

[attachment=0:1c8smd7j]1.jpg[/attachment:1c8smd7j]
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: whisper9396 on September 09, 2010, 12:54:06 AM
Serenitys_Dream
I think you are right.......But different photos=different appiarance. I don't know... How it could be....Every time i look at photo and thinking "Is it His photo, or not" :roll:  :oops:  :?:
With love.
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: AgentBJ on September 09, 2010, 01:17:14 PM
Quote from: "whisper9396"
Hi guyes!
sorr if you saw this pic. But the man from TII don't let me sleep quite. :oops:
I still can't belive that this is MJ. :?
(http://s005.radikal.ru/i211/1002/e3/c7b077c0f065t.jpg)

I don't know...I am 50/50 about this picture... :?

And this jacket is big... :shock:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: MissG on September 09, 2010, 01:48:25 PM
That hair it´s Michaels :)
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Tina K. on September 09, 2010, 02:47:37 PM
Quote from: "AgentBJ"
Quote from: "whisper9396"
Hi guyes!
sorr if you saw this pic. But the man from TII don't let me sleep quite. :oops:
I still can't belive that this is MJ. :?
(http://s005.radikal.ru/i211/1002/e3/c7b077c0f065t.jpg)

I don't know...I am 50/50 about this picture... :?

And this jacket is big... :shock:
It's not the jacket that is big, but Michael who is thin.... :(
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: SEHF on September 09, 2010, 11:49:55 PM
When is Kenny due?? I'm mean I know I couldn't help it  :cry:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on September 10, 2010, 02:15:33 PM
Quote from: "SEHF"
When is Kenny due?? I'm mean I know I couldn't help it  :cry:

 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
 :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: mopey3655 on September 10, 2010, 09:07:49 PM
All I can say is that is one beautiful, sexy human being !! Oxygen plz !!!!
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: popisdead on October 04, 2010, 02:25:08 PM
i need another pic of right ear to compare....anyone could help...?thanks :mrgreen:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: Red_Rose on October 05, 2010, 11:07:19 AM
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[attachment=2:ver1emgv]59492_141929745849586_100000976849219_207936_5568187_n.jpg[/attachment:ver1emgv]
[attachment=1:ver1emgv]61259_141930122516215_100000976849219_207964_1080520_n.jpg[/attachment:ver1emgv]
[attachment=0:ver1emgv]Michael_Jackson_1247298509_2.jpg[/attachment:ver1emgv]
 Michael :X :oops:
Title: Re: I Found THE best Double!!
Post by: popisdead on October 05, 2010, 01:03:35 PM
thanx...definetely the same guy....
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