Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => The Redirects => TIAI => The Plan (Qanon, TIAI, BACK) => TIAI ~ 2010 => Topic started by: *Mo* on July 28, 2010, 02:18:13 AM
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Isn't Michael going to take off his sunglasses ? Or readjusting them ? TS said that the pictures were also giving clues.
I had to think of "4-eyes-principle" to approve.
For the rest we should fasten our seatbelts.
My best guess is the questioning of the buried body and a DNA analysis taken.
(who will be first FL or Graceland? both at the same time, I would say. ;) )
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Think I will go to the store and buy all the popcorn they have, I don't wanna miss a thing! Would be great to have two TMZ livestreams. At Graceland they will dig up a perfectly intact Elvis-dummy, at Forest Lawn they will find nada... At least they can't come up with the excuse that the body was stolen, since no one can even come near the crypt :lol:
Now THAT would be a total shocker to the world, people will pee their pants from excitement! :mrgreen:
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reminds me of when MJ was at Grammies 1984, winning for best pop vocal award for thriller, MJ comes up with his sunnies on, as for all past 7 awards or so lol, said he take of his glasses if he won another award, so he did, but he was very shy doing so.
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It would be a real shocker if they find Sneddon in Mike's grave with a boot up in his ass and a white glove in it...
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It would be a real shocker if they find Sneddon in Mike's grave with a boot up in his ass and a white glove in it...
:lol: :lol: That would be great!! :D :D :lol:
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It would be a real shocker if they find Sneddon in Mike's grave with a boot up in his ass and a white glove in it...
:lol: :lol:
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It would be a real shocker if they find Sneddon in Mike's grave with a boot up in his ass and a white glove in it...
sigh...we can dream
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Well, JMP is now listed as a petitioner on the website of the Superior Court:
JACKSON MOCIENNE ELIZABETH PETIT - Petitioner
No listing of documents filed yet regarding her claim, let's keep an eye on that.
https://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/civilCa ... Type=Civil (https://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/civilCaseSummary/index.asp?CaseType=Civil)
Case number BP117321[/b]
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great job Grace! can't believe the dna link didn't cross my mind... it has been working too sluggishly to connect the dots :S
seems like it's coming together! with the Bobby Fischer redirect and people popping out of nowhere claiming to be MJ's children, plus Eliza's court case, seems like digging graves is the direction we're heading!
this is truly exciting!! can't wait for it all to unfold :D
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woo hoo! BRING IT ON! :P
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Will a judge give the go-ahead for DNA tests regarding Mocienne's case ? Hmmm at first sight I don't think so. She has nothing like Eliza's evidences. I rather see an Elvis BAM soon !
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It would be a real shocker if they find Sneddon in Mike's grave with a boot up in his ass and a white glove in it...
:lol:
I think things are about to get mighty interesting and perhaps exciting....and TS has confirmed it for us with this redirect and the previous 2 before it!
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Think I will go to the store and buy all the popcorn they have, I don't wanna miss a thing! Would be great to have two TMZ livestreams. At Graceland they will dig up a perfectly intact Elvis-dummy, at Forest Lawn they will find nada... At least they can't come up with the excuse that the body was stolen, since no one can even come near the crypt :lol:
Now THAT would be a total shocker to the world, people will pee their pants from excitement! :mrgreen:
It would be a shocker indeed! but are you sure they would have to dig up or open any gravesite. Don't they already have at least MJ's DNA?
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i know this is selfish of me, but i wish it would happen soon :roll:
nevertheless, when this does happen......dear god. but i mean, if you think about ALL the elvis fans and ALL the michael fans (some love both men) and they all get on board with this fight...how insane is that going to be?!
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It seems that TMZ is nicely leading to an article on Eliza and Elvis... "and piece by piece, MJ is revealed...." I wonder whether the recent articles with Dutch connections (Tulips, Mocienne place of residence) are more than a double dutch coincidence... ;)
With L.O.V.E
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It seems that TMZ is nicely leading to an article on Eliza and Elvis... "and piece by piece, MJ is revealed...." I wonder whether the recent articles with Dutch connections (Tulips, Mocienne place of residence) are more than a double dutch coincidence... ;)
With L.O.V.E
Sweet, I like your thinking !!
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It seems that TMZ is nicely leading to an article on Eliza and Elvis... "and piece by piece, MJ is revealed...." I wonder whether the recent articles with Dutch connections (Tulips, Mocienne place of residence) are more than a double dutch coincidence... ;)
With L.O.V.E
That would be great ! The word "go-ahead" made me first think that TMZ did finally received the green light from their "source" to publish something about the case of Eliza...I say that because I used the same word when we failed to make Harvey talk about it in TMZ live.
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4-27. Did MJ Ever Think of a Thriller Sequel?
The original Thriller made all-time records in both the album, and the music video {http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/this-is-it; also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_(album), and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson%27s_Thriller}. So do you suppose that during three decades, the thought of a Thriller sequel ever crossed Michael’s mind even once? Don’t you think there is a 1000% chance that MJ thought of a sequel at least one time, and probably hundreds of times?
And if he thought of it, what do you suppose he was thinking? Maybe: how to outdo the biggest music video ever. But that’s not easy; especially not with a sequel. Very rarely do sequels exceed the original. So MJ just gave up on the idea, right? Does that sound like Michael Genius Jackson? Is there perhaps at least a 1% chance that MJ came up with a plan to outdo Thriller??
There is one thing, and only one thing, that could possibly outdo the original Thriller video; you guessed it, a real-life Thriller! Do you honestly think that this thought never once crossed his mind? In fact, the original Thriller went back and forth between reality and illusion several times; and yet, it was actually all just a video—not reality. But is it possible that he ever once thought about bringing it off of the screen, and into our real-life circumstances?
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/digging.jpg)
8-)
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think Mocienne Sarahli very urgent need medications for nerves ... I say to calm down.
And if Elvis could do a simulation with Michael too, I believe that these acts are not public, may well say that the exhumation was carried out .. and a lie, there is nothing unusual. 8-)
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think Mocienne Sarahli very urgent need medications for nerves ... I say to calm down.
And if Elvis could do a simulation with Michael too, I believe that these acts are not public, may well say that the exhumation was carried out .. and a lie, there is nothing unusual. 8-)
Yes the grave of Michael being "visited" can also be a fake scene already filmed like the funeral, same scenario in perspective :lol:
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I've never heard of the term '4 eyes principle'. This is from Wikipedia:
Four eyes principle, a security precaution that requires at least two people to approve of a particular activity
In business, the four-eye principle "means that all business decisions and transactions need approval from the CEO and CFO. Since the CFO is not reporting to the CEO, there is an independent controlling mechanism in place." [2]
Similarly, many banks implement some variant of the two-man rule to secure large sums of money and valuable items. Under this concept, unlocking the vault requires two individuals with different keys if the vault is secured by a key lock system. For bank vaults secured by combination lock, one individual will know half of the combination and a second person will know the remaining half. At no point will either person know the other person's half of the lock combination, requiring both persons to be physically present unlock the vault.
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wwwhhhoooaaa makes me think of all the zarr's in u.s. gov. these days making elected officials more worthless than they already were.
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Will we soon be seeing a story similar to this one? Has a lot of similarities also.
Legendary entertainer James Brown is now "The Gone-father of Soul."
One of Brown's daughters reportedly claims that the singer's body has gone missing from its crypt -- part of an elaborate plot to prevent her from carrying out an autopsy that will determine whether he was really killed.
"My daddy's body has disappeared. I have no clue where it was taken, but I need to know where," said LaRhonda Pettit, 48. "I'm convinced his death was suspicious and I want the people responsible brought to justice."
The R&B great -- famous for his feverish dance moves and songs like "Papa's Got A Brand New Bag" and "It's A Man's Man's Man's World" -- died on Dec. 25, 2006 at age 73.
James Brown
WIREIMAGE.COM
James Brown
Pettit said the official cause of her father's death -- determined by doctors to be a heart attack brought on by a bout with pneumonia -- is not the real reason behind the passing of "The Godfather of Soul."
"The only way to do that is to exhume his body and have an autopsy," Pettit said in an interview with The Globe newspaper. "I cannot understand why one was never conducted."
Brown's body was sealed in a crypt at the South Carolina home of his daughter Deanna Brown-Thomas while arrangements are made for a permanent grave.
Pettit underwent a DNA test three years ago to prove she was Brown's daughter. She is believed to be one of 12 people to come forward since Brown's death claiming to be one of his illegitimate kids.
Pettit speculated that Brown may have been killed by those who gave him illegal drugs.
"It was common knowledge that my daddy took illegal drugs," she said. "He was also hooked on various prescription painkillers. At the very least there were enablers who helped cause his death."
Brown's family disputes Pettit's claims. A lawyer for the family told TMZ.com today that Brown's body has never been moved.
Brown, who had a 50-year career, is arguably one of this country's greatest singers. During the civil-rights movement, Brown recorded such hits as "Say it Loud (I'm Black and I'm Proud)" and "I Don't Want Nobody to Give Me Nothing (Open Up the Door and I'll Get it Myself)." In 1969, Look Magazine called Brown "the most important black man in America."
Brown was among the first group of musicians inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1986, along with such greats as Elvis Presley, Chuck Berry, Buddy Holly and Ray Charles.
While his 53 Top 10 hits punctuated the radio from the late 1950s well into the 1980s, his live performances were a thing of legend.
Brown, who was often wrapped in a cape, would frequently work himself into such a frenzy that he would dramatically collapse on stage -- only to theatrically toss the cape off and rush back to continue singing.
His "Live at the Apollo" show from 1962 in Harlem is widely considered one of the greatest live albums ever.
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I can't cope!! So we have Elvis, James Brown and MJ all about to be exhumed because of claims by god knows how many assorted relatives, demanding DNA tests! Why do I have a sneaky feeling someone's playing games with us?!
Please can someone remind me why we think TMZ takes instructions from MJ? if he's the one playing the games I can take it, but I really don't want to be messed with by some trashy celebrity gossip site.
And if it's not games and these articles are for real, then I'm speechless. :o :shock: :?
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Will we soon be seeing a story similar to this one? Has a lot of similarities also.
Legendary entertainer James Brown is now "The Gone-father of Soul."
One of Brown's daughters reportedly claims that the singer's body has gone missing from its crypt -- part of an elaborate plot to prevent her from carrying out an autopsy that will determine whether he was really killed.
"My daddy's body has disappeared. I have no clue where it was taken, but I need to know where," said LaRhonda Pettit, 48. "I'm convinced his death was suspicious and I want the people responsible brought to justice."
The R&B great -- famous for his feverish dance moves and songs like "Papa's Got A Brand New Bag" and "It's A Man's Man's Man's World" -- died on Dec. 25, 2006 at age 73.
James Brown
WIREIMAGE.COM
James Brown
Pettit said the official cause of her father's death -- determined by doctors to be a heart attack brought on by a bout with pneumonia -- is not the real reason behind the passing of "The Godfather of Soul."
"The only way to do that is to exhume his body and have an autopsy," Pettit said in an interview with The Globe newspaper. "I cannot understand why one was never conducted."
Brown's body was sealed in a crypt at the South Carolina home of his daughter Deanna Brown-Thomas while arrangements are made for a permanent grave.
Pettit underwent a DNA test three years ago to prove she was Brown's daughter. She is believed to be one of 12 people to come forward since Brown's death claiming to be one of his illegitimate kids.
Pettit speculated that Brown may have been killed by those who gave him illegal drugs.
"It was common knowledge that my daddy took illegal drugs," she said. "He was also hooked on various prescription painkillers. At the very least there were enablers who helped cause his death."
Brown's family disputes Pettit's claims. A lawyer for the family told TMZ.com today that Brown's body has never been moved.
Brown, who had a 50-year career, is arguably one of this country's greatest singers. During the civil-rights movement, Brown recorded such hits as "Say it Loud (I'm Black and I'm Proud)" and "I Don't Want Nobody to Give Me Nothing (Open Up the Door and I'll Get it Myself)." In 1969, Look Magazine called Brown "the most important black man in America."
Brown was among the first group of musicians inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1986, along with such greats as Elvis Presley, Chuck Berry, Buddy Holly and Ray Charles.
While his 53 Top 10 hits punctuated the radio from the late 1950s well into the 1980s, his live performances were a thing of legend.
Brown, who was often wrapped in a cape, would frequently work himself into such a frenzy that he would dramatically collapse on stage -- only to theatrically toss the cape off and rush back to continue singing.
His "Live at the Apollo" show from 1962 in Harlem is widely considered one of the greatest live albums ever.
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What a mess... :lol:
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Pettit seems to be a popular name
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It would be a real shocker if they find Sneddon in Mike's grave with a boot up in his ass and a white glove in it...
:o :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:
Thanks Souza, I needed a good laugh!!! Love ya friend! :D
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Pettit seems to be a popular name
I was just thinking this also. Hmmm! :?
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It would be a real shocker if they find Sneddon in Mike's grave with a boot up in his ass and a white glove in it...
ooO( leans back in my chair laughing my butt off LOL LOL LOL )Ooooooo
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Does anyone understand today's redirect? I surely don't!
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I can't cope!! So we have Elvis, James Brown and MJ all about to be exhumed because of claims by god knows how many assorted relatives, demanding DNA tests! Why do I have a sneaky feeling someone's playing games with us?!
Please can someone remind me why we think TMZ takes instructions from MJ? if he's the one playing the games I can take it, but I really don't want to be messed with by some trashy celebrity gossip site.
And if it's not games and these articles are for real, then I'm speechless. :o :shock: :?
James Brown's DNA Drama is over the samples were already taken from him. If they exhume him it will be to do an autopsy as one was never conducted...that is if they can locate his body as some stories suggest it is missing.
James Brown DNA dispute settled - Paternity claims to be investigated
February 27, 2007
The body of James Brown is to be subjected to DNA testing following several paternity claims since his death last year (December 25) at the age of 73.
A lawyer for the soul singer’s partner Tomi Rae Hynie have confirmed that an agreement has been reached over obtaining these DNA samples, leading to a cancellation of a hearing previously scheduled for next Tuesday (March 6).
Brown’s partner was originally unhappy with the way the trustees wanted the DNA collected. Hynie says she is the singer’s fourth wife and has a child with James Brown, James Jr, claiming she has had the paternity test to prove it. Attorneys for the soul star have claimed the pair were not legally married when he died because she was already married when they made their wedding vows.
http://www.nme.com/news/james-brown/26702
DNA testing confirms more James Brown children
Jet, August 27, 2007 by Clarence Waldron
DNA testing on about a dozen people who claim the late James Brown was their father has found that at least two of them are telling the truth, according to a longtime attorney and advisor to the late soul singer.
Buddy Dallas refused to identify the two people whose DNA showed they were Brown's children, but The Augusta Chronicle reported that LaRhonda Petitt, a 45-year-old retired flight attendant and teacher in Houston, showed the newspaper a report that says there is a 99.99 percent probability she is Brown's daughter.
Petitt said that she met Brown at concerts and spoke to him over the phone, but that he never acknowledged being her father. "I was angry that he was out there making all this money, and he wasn't doing anything for my mother and me," Petitt told the newspaper. "I could have had a better life." She said she has grown less bitter about Brown as the years have passed. "I love my daddy," she told the Chronicle. "When I hear my daddy's music, it just freezes me." Dallas could not be reached for comment.
Brown's will, which is being disputed in court, names six children. Brown died Christmas Day of heart failure at age 73 (JET, Jan 15). One possible child of Brown's who hasn't undergone a DNA test is 6-year-old James Joseph Brown II, the son of Tomi Rae Hynie Brown, who says she is the singer's wife. But Brown's attorneys continue to dispute that claim, and the boy and his mother are not in the singer's will.
Tomi Rae wants all of Brown's children to be given a DNA test, not just James II. Her attorney Robert Rosen told JET: "She will agree to it, if everybody agrees to it. That's been her position all along. What could be fairer than that? To me it is perfectly sensible."
--Clarence Waldron with AP
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_8_112/ai_n27361770/
The Brown case and the Fisher case are considered "Legal Precedent" for establishing DNA evidence in the Eliza/Jesse/Elvis case and any case involving Michael Jackson ie. exhumation to obtain DNA for the purposes of establishing paternity.
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James Brown's DNA Drama is over the samples were already taken from him. If they exhume him it will be to do an autopsy as one was never conducted...that is if they can locate his body as some stories suggest it is missing.
Do you kow when the samples were taken? may be right after he died?. If there was no autopsy, what was the reason for the dna samples to be taken on the 1st place?
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James Brown's DNA Drama is over the samples were already taken from him. If they exhume him it will be to do an autopsy as one was never conducted...that is if they can locate his body as some stories suggest it is missing.
Do you kow when the samples were taken? may be right after he died?. If there was no autopsy, what was the reason for the dna samples to be taken on the 1st place?
He was exhumed
New and Improved Paternity Tests
April 2007
Fatherhood has, in the past, been a very grey area for many people; having doubts over a child’s paternity but not being able to prove it.This is no longer the case, since, thanks to advances in genetic science, the paternity test has never been easier to use and more reliable.With a probability figure of 99.999% children no longer have to remain in the dark about the identity of their biological fathers.
Take the recent and highly publicized case of Dannielynn, the late Anna Nicole Smith’s baby daughter.Four men stepped forward claiming to be her father and it was only through the use of DNA paternity tests that her biological was identified.
It was also announced last week, that DNA samples would be taken from the body of the late James Brown.The “Godfather of Soul” has had so many alleged children step up to claim some of his estate that his immediate family felt there was only one way to clear up the issue. His body has been exhumed and DNA will be extracted and compared to those claiming a biological relationship. In cases such as these, as well as the well being of the child in question, there are also major legal and financial connotations to consider so the accuracy of results is of vital importance.
Advances in DNA technology have led to paternity tests becoming cheaper and more accessible, easier to use and more accurate.It is now even possible to prove paternity without an alleged fathers DNA sample by testing siblings and grandparents. DNA samples can be extracted from discarded items like used tissues, chewing gum, hair fibres and toothbrushes.With technology moving so fast, it will soon be possible to determine a baby’s paternity through noninvasive pre natal tests.
Issues of paternity really hit the headlines back in 1943 when Charlie Chaplin was sued by actress Joan Berry who claimed he was the father of her child.At the time a blood test proved he wasn’t the biological father of the child, however, since this type of evidence was not yet admissible in court, he was ordered to pay child support.
His case sparked a change in laws regarding paternity cases and blood cases, but it wasn’t til the late 80’s that DNA testing made its entrance.Now, it is almost fool proof with further testing available to raise the odds even higher.
http://www.easy-dna.com/dnanews.php/dna-paternity-test-advances-genetic-science-improve-accuracy-of-tests
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Not a year passed and the body was exhumed :?
There has been already many claims of MJ´s "children" but all rejected. If the law gives permission for DNA testing on Michael´s body then we will know for sure what´s about Michael. But, if we guess that:
1-There is no MJ´s body
2-There is a body who is not MJ
3-MJ was creamated so there is no possibility fora DNA test
4-The list can go on and on....
I guess we will never know nothing.
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i know this is selfish of me, but i wish it would happen soon :roll:
nevertheless, when this does happen......dear god. but i mean, if you think about ALL the elvis fans and ALL the michael fans (some love both men) and they all get on board with this fight...how insane is that going to be?!
I agree that Elvis and MJ fans uniting would ideal and indeed insane. "Come together" springs to mind ;)
I found a great interview here from the Presley commision. They come across as a very proffessional group of investigators and could be worth contacting.
http://www.elvisinfonet.com/aitcheson.html (http://www.elvisinfonet.com/aitcheson.html)
I don't know if this has been posted anywhere before but on the Elvis case, it is claimed that there is a liver biopsy from 1975 from Elvis. Surely if this is the case, then all they need to do is compare this to the sample that Eliza claims is Jesses and also compare to hers for safe measure and if all this is true, then there will be a match. I may be missing something here but wouldn't this be the most logical step to take next :?:
It is also claimed here that this DNA sample was compared to the autopsy of Elvis and did not match.
http://www.cleveland.oh.us/wmv_news/jherr17.htm (http://www.cleveland.oh.us/wmv_news/jherr17.htm)
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It would be a real shocker if they find Sneddon in Mike's grave with a boot up in his ass and a white glove in it...
Souza,
I have to admit that this is the best thing I have read in a long time. I had the best laugh! I certainly needed it....thanks!!!!
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If these exhumations happen soon, I'll be very sorry to have missed it. :( :cry:
My classes start from the 2nd of August and I'll have to go away for at least a three months..... DAMN !!
Although I'll try and check in as much as I can......But witnessing live straem is another thing altogether.......I wish I could have somehow prolonged my stay. :|
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Frankly, the only problem I see with all the DNA samples and testing is honesty and monkey business. People can claim articles like a toothbrush or a sample such as liver biopsy is from a person, but all the way down the chain of people involved with all their agendas, can they ever be 100% tight. It could end up being just deeper quagmire. It would have to be a legally authorized certified person taking a sample directly from the body, hopefully the right body verified by authorities and taken directly to the lab with tight security with a totally qualified person testing, and giving the information to media who can be trusted to tell the truth. Oh who to trust...what a tangled web. And in the case of Mocienne (and probably other cases), a lie detector test for herself and Barbara Ross. I'm really looking forward to all the Thriller 2 drama coming soon :o :D , but it may bring out only more questions that need more answers :? . It promises to be the Greatest Show On Earth!!
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Frankly, the only problem I see with all the DNA samples and testing is honesty and monkey business. People can claim articles like a toothbrush or a sample such as liver biopsy is from a person, but all the way down the chain of people involved with all their agendas, can they ever be 100% tight. It could end up being just deeper quagmire. It would have to be a legally authorized certified person taking a sample directly from the body, hopefully the right body verified by authorities and taken directly to the lab with tight security with a totally qualified person testing, and giving the information to media who can be trusted to tell the truth. Oh who to trust...what a tangled web. And in the case of Mocienne (and probably other cases), a lie detector test for herself and Barbara Ross. I'm really looking forward to all the Thriller 2 drama coming soon :o :D , but it may bring out only more questions that need more answers :? . It promises to be the Greatest Show On Earth!!
First, no lie detector is required for Mocienne and Barbara, a DNA test would would confirm if this woman is Barbara's daughter or not and no exhumation would be required to achieve that.
So depending on the outcome of that, the case would either end there or require a DNA sample from Michael.
Anyways, she isn't his daughter, just a woman with some serious issues.