Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => The Redirects => TIAI => The Plan (Qanon, TIAI, BACK) => TIAI ~ 2010 => Topic started by: *Mo* on July 25, 2010, 03:33:17 AM
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I'm pretty sure this is connected to the ElvisandMJ.com media rally in some way.....
"after an MJ fan group informed employees that an influx of flowers would be headed their way "
= MJDHI (based in the Netherlands :lol: ).....influx of emails will be headed the media way
"the MJ fan group is gonna have to foot the bill for the garden -- and the size of the garden will be determined by how much cash they raise"
= the outcome will depend on how much media awareness they raise
Also, has anyone clicked on the phrase 'how much cash they raise' which is marked in blue. I did and I am
getting a new page with just the words 'Fatal Failure'! Is that another clue or just a web error???
I could be way off here but just thought I would share it with you!
I get the fatal error as well, it's linked to a paypayl page :? Maybe because we don't have the media's attention yet? Let's see if that will change into a picture of some tulips if someone reports about it :lol:
Well Harve dear, you got the tweet as well... ;)
Ha, I hadn't noticed it was a paypal page! Somebody posted a comment below the TMZ article "Well TMZ, if you want fans to donate, fix the PayPal link!!!" I really don't think that the link is for donating cash! ;) Who is the supposed MJ fan group anyway?
Btw, does this mean you and Mo are the Tulips from Amsterdam? :lol: :lol: :lol:
My head's hurting.........
I agree - I don't think it's intended to actual donation. But, if they do fix the link I'd be open to giving just to call their bluff and see what happens. I was getting kind of worried about TMZ's lack of information recently. I'm glad they are back on it.
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That's really cool, great thinking newoldfan ;)
i still remember the hidden message in TMZ's post about Conrad Murray's twitter! :shock:
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=5565#p87728 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=5565#p87728) ;)
Also, (to Mo) on my computer, it says you posted this at 3:33 am. :lol:
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TMZ seems really keen to report on MJ groups ;) maybe they're suggesting that if the elvisandmj.com media rally is huge enough they'd make it newsworthy and post about what our group is doing on their site. :)
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Yay, we're definitely on the right track!
Can't wait to see how spectacular this 'garden' is going to be.....keep emailing!!
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Well guys you have to increase the amount of emails, is the only way for us to pay attention. :D
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry..
In my opinion it is so obvious this was NOT because of the emails and you seem to be falling into TS's trap..
I guess he was right, he was "running out of ideas" RIGHT BEFORE the update #6..so he had to come up with something, which is this ElvisandMJ thing
Can you please start focusing on Michael again..?
To TS:
I don't know if you took notice of it but you are starting to lose credibility (and I'm not talking only from my point of view) ;S
I know I will get criticized because of this, but I can't help it, these are my thoughts RIGHT NOW about TS. I’m sorry ;S
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@Hazzely I'm not criticising you, this is a genuine question. What do you think the TMZ article is about?
Don't you think is a bit cryptic?
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@Hazzely I'm not criticising you, this is a genuine question. What do you think the TMZ article is about?
Don't you think is a bit cryptic?
I don't trust TMZ and I don't think they are in the hoax. They're just a bunch of opportunistic and filthy sensationalists, just like any other tabloid
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry..
In my opinion it is so obvious this was NOT because of the emails and you seem to be falling into TS's trap..
I guess he was right, he was "running out of ideas" RIGHT BEFORE the update #6..so he had to come up with something, which is this ElvisandMJ thing
Can you please start focusing on Michael again..?
To TS:
I don't know if you took notice of it but you are starting to lose credibility (and I'm not talking only from my point of view) ;S
I know I will get criticized because of this, but I can't help it, these are my thoughts RIGHT NOW about TS. I’m sorry ;S
can you put your finger on something specific that makes you doubt so much. i am not saying i think you are wrong. as a matter of fact i am probably closer to you in this.
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@Hazzely I'm not criticising you, this is a genuine question. What do you think the TMZ article is about?
Don't you think is a bit cryptic?
I don't trust TMZ and I don't think they are in the hoax. They're just a bunch of opportunistic and filthy sensationalists, just like any other tabloid
First you said:
TMZ knows about us, they know we follow them so they enjoy playing that role, an imaginary role in the hoax.
Now it's:
They're just a bunch of opportunistic and filthy sensationalists
I'm sorry Hazzely, but I still have not seen any comment of you with a well argumented answer regarding TMZ, I only see your thoughts and assumptions appearing time after time.
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Mo that's why I said they're playing their own imaginary role in the hoax. Isn't it obvious they know about us?
They're just like any other tabloid. They are taking advantage of us and of the fact we follow them because we think they're in the hoax..everything they are going to say most of you will see it as "clue" or whatever you want to call that like it happened with that propofol story from the other day and the nazi one from today (among others) even though their purposes seem so evil to me.
And If you want to see everything I say as an "assumption" then do so, I'm using my common sense and giving my opinion (just like anyone else here) and I don't see why you keep picking on me everytime I say something. I guess it has to be because I didn't like the idea of taking ElvisandMj to the media and didn't shut up.
I'm here for Michael not to fight with anyone..I just voiced my opinion and you jumped at me.
Time will say it all I guess
I hope this won't turn into a "mo arguing with hazzely" thread because if so I will just stay away from it since I'm not looking for any drama.
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I'm sorry Hazzely, but I still have not seen any comment of you with a well argumented answer regarding TMZ, I only see your thoughts and assumptions appearing time after time.
If TMZ is not part of the hoax, I'm not sure what well-argumented answer could be made. How do you prove that all the stuff they throw on their site about MJ is just because they think it "sells" and doesn't contain hidden clues? I guess the question could be asked the other way around: Is EVERY article TMZ posts about MJ connected to the hoax and filled with hidden messages? If not, then I think both sides have a credible argument.
Truth is, nobody knows either way - and won't - until all of this plays out.
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i hope michael sees that we're trying :roll:
i also hope tomorrow we get positive responses from the people we've sent to. sometimes people don't check their mail on the weekends, to set apart "working life" from "real life."
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Hazzely,
I think you would be amazed just how many support your thoughts but are keeping quiet. I for one came here as well because of Michael and never expected it to turn into an elvis/mike forum.
People are grasping here and seem to be listening to ones that we as a whole have absolutly no idea who they are. As far as Im concerned it could be the very ones that are in charge of this forum. And I say "could be" not that they are. However, why go to the media? Is it for money, just as everyone else is gaining from this Mike hoax or is it out of a genuine love for Mike? Honestly, by going to the media it is merely "smoking" him out. I believe he is alive and I also believe Mike will return when he's damn go and ready.
As far as Elvis, it's not my concern that he is alive and if this Eliza wants to prove that, so be it, thats her fight. Suppose Elvis doesnt want to come out just as Mike doesnt? I say let them be and lets keep our noses out of others business.
I also find that when things around here get seemingly quite, things like this rediculous BS arise. Look at Pearl Jr's latest video. You can not tell me that she is doing that for Mike. Its very obvious that she wants us to see the video and in return she is advertising that ebook shes got. NO thanks, not for me anyway.
I think we all have gotten off the track of Mikes messages all together. We most focus on the message rather than looking at everything and turning it into a conspiracy. Sit back and come to OUR OWN THOUGHTS and OUR OWN CONCLUSIONS without arguments.
After saying all this, I hope people on this forum re-think things and WHY Mo and Souza want so badly to take this to the media.
I am also prepared to get my ass banned but consider it my token of respect to Mike. In the beginning this forum captured my attention but has become a complete waste of time.
Peace and Love always!!
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I don't know what you guys think about what would happened if Michael was to return tomorrow in public view ? Just imagine it for one second. Do you think that the medias will be nice with him coming from nowhere ? Don't you think it makes more sense to pave the way before he comes to make his return safer ? I don't know but in my head it's just too obvious and logical. I really believe this is the right thing to do and that Michael wants us to do it.
I understand that those who keep on critizing TS continuously will not change their minds now. There are enough evidences showing that he is legit, that he has inside information, maybe you should re-read his posts. I really don't know what could convince you at this point. If you believe in the return then you should understand that the medias will be part of the game sooner or later and better sooner with us leading the way.
God bless you all.
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I don't know what you guys think about what would happened if Michael was to return tomorrow in public view ? Just imagine it for one second. Do you think that the medias will be nice with him coming from nowhere ? Don't you think it makes more sense to pave the way before he comes to make his return safer ? I don't know but in my head it's just too obvious and logical. I really believe this is the right thing to do and that Michael wants us to do it.
I understand that those who keep on critizing TS continuously will not change their minds now. There are enough evidences showing that he is legit, that he has inside information, maybe you should re-read his posts. I really don't know what could convince you at this point. If you believe in the return then you should understand that the medias will be part of the game sooner or later and better sooner with us leading the way.
God bless you all.[/quo
MJ does not need anyone to lead the way. If he feels he does, I am sure he has already taken care of it and no ones needs to assume the responsibility. And btw, tell me who made those who want to take this to the media his "John The Baptist".
Peace and Love as always.
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I don't know what you guys think about what would happened if Michael was to return tomorrow in public view ? Just imagine it for one second. Do you think that the medias will be nice with him coming from nowhere ? Don't you think it makes more sense to pave the way before he comes to make his return safer ? I don't know but in my head it's just too obvious and logical. I really believe this is the right thing to do and that Michael wants us to do it.
I understand that those who keep on critizing TS continuously will not change their minds now. There are enough evidences showing that he is legit, that he has inside information, maybe you should re-read his posts. I really don't know what could convince you at this point. If you believe in the return then you should understand that the medias will be part of the game sooner or later and better sooner with us leading the way.
God bless you all.
I share your well said words here sarahli :)
I think it is vital that the world is made aware of the hoax before he is safe to return. His message is the most important part of this and if he returned before everyone had had their eyes opened, it would completely defeat the object of this whole project. Everyones focus would be on Michael before his message and I think he would have to face a lot of aggression and worse. We started this journey with an investigation into Michaels death primarily and if my memory serves me correctly,in the original MJHD we were not even allowed to discuss NWO or anything of that nature, so the full extent of his message was prevented until this forum opened. This feels very deliberate. It seems to go in this order, we have discovered the evidence that he did fake his death, then we discovered the many reasons why, at this point we are all pretty well informed and feel ready for the Bam. I feel it is the same for the world, first they see the hoax (the lie), then they see the reasons (the truth behind a multitude of lies), at this point the world is not only ready for the Bam, but all wanting it and needing it. I know that there would still be those who cannot believe, but I believe that if enough do see it, then the rest will follow the growing herd. This is about waking up the world first and Michaels Bam will be the icing on the cake :D
This is just my personal opinion and I respect all others, but this way Michael will be welcomed back with love, joy, unity and major respect. He has always loved us more because he has always known the truth, which is one that the world is on the verge of seeing.
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I don't know what you guys think about what would happened if Michael was to return tomorrow in public view ? Just imagine it for one second. Do you think that the medias will be nice with him coming from nowhere ? Don't you think it makes more sense to pave the way before he comes to make his return safer ? I don't know but in my head it's just too obvious and logical. I really believe this is the right thing to do and that Michael wants us to do it.
I understand that those who keep on critizing TS continuously will not change their minds now. There are enough evidences showing that he is legit, that he has inside information, maybe you should re-read his posts. I really don't know what could convince you at this point. If you believe in the return then you should understand that the medias will be part of the game sooner or later and better sooner with us leading the way.
God bless you all.
Sarahli,
I'm in your corner with this thinking. I always thought that if I were Michael I would be more comfortable returning to an informed public. Maybe the surprise element he is aiming for is more for the "when", not the actual fact that there will be a BAM. He may want the world to experience that anticipation of knowing he will return but at a totally unexpected time.
Another thing to keep in mind is, if this is supposed to be an ARG, it seems to be running true to form. TMZ could be one of the designers, scattering pieces of the story across the media, and we players influence it by our actions and reactions.
I haven't forgotten your post about Michael readjusting things when necessary and getting the temperature of hoax believers' work. IMO we do have a role to play and I think some of us will get the golden ticket and some of us won't. I just don't want anyone to miss the boat. L.O.V.E. to everyone.
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I don't know what you guys think about what would happened if Michael was to return tomorrow in public view ? Just imagine it for one second. Do you think that the medias will be nice with him coming from nowhere ? Don't you think it makes more sense to pave the way before he comes to make his return safer ? I don't know but in my head it's just too obvious and logical. I really believe this is the right thing to do and that Michael wants us to do it.
I understand that those who keep on critizing TS continuously will not change their minds now. There are enough evidences showing that he is legit, that he has inside information, maybe you should re-read his posts. I really don't know what could convince you at this point. If you believe in the return then you should understand that the medias will be part of the game sooner or later and better sooner with us leading the way.
God bless you all.
The way I see it, the media isn't going to be nice to him coming from nowhere OR if "the way is paved." The media is self-serving, not altruistic. The media has always bashed MJ. I do not honestly, for one second, believe that any trending tweets or possible rulings regarding Elvis are going to make one bit of difference in that. To most of the world, the man is dead and they're STILL bashing and writing lies about him. So here's a sincere question: To those who feel "we have to pave the way," why do you believe the media will have a change of heart now?
Honestly, I think it would take something monumental and undeniable to shake the media up - and only Michael himself is capable of doing that. And I'll bet you anything that even when it's shoved in their face, they'll still bash him and twist things because of their embarrassment (How dare he!). More people will open their eyes and see the truth, but plenty will feel as duped and bitter as the media - and continue to bash MJ. More power to those who feel differently - I hope you're right; I really do.
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Hazzely,
I think you would be amazed just how many support your thoughts but are keeping quiet. I for one came here as well because of Michael and never expected it to turn into an elvis/mike forum.
People are grasping here and seem to be listening to ones that we as a whole have absolutly no idea who they are. As far as Im concerned it could be the very ones that are in charge of this forum. And I say "could be" not that they are. However, why go to the media? Is it for money, just as everyone else is gaining from this Mike hoax or is it out of a genuine love for Mike? Honestly, by going to the media it is merely "smoking" him out. I believe he is alive and I also believe Mike will return when he's damn go and ready.
As far as Elvis, it's not my concern that he is alive and if this Eliza wants to prove that, so be it, thats her fight. Suppose Elvis doesnt want to come out just as Mike doesnt? I say let them be and lets keep our noses out of others business.
I also find that when things around here get seemingly quite, things like this rediculous BS arise. Look at badly to take tPearl Jr's latest video. You can not tell me that she is doing that for Mike. Its very obvious that she wants us to see the video and in return she is advertising that ebook shes got. NO thanks, not for me anyway.
I think we all have gotten off the track of Mikes messages all together. We most focus on the message rather than looking at everything and turning it into a conspiracy. Sit back and come to OUR OWN THOUGHTS and OUR OWN CONCLUSIONS without arguments.
After saying all this, I hope people on this forum re-think things and WHY Mo and Souza want so his to the media.
I am also prepared to get my ass banned but consider it my token of respect to Mike. In the beginning this forum captured my attention but has become a complete waste of time.
Peace and Love always!!
sitting here by myself reading this post as soon as i read it the words flew out of my mouth oh god somebody finally said it !
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TS, I forgot to say thanks for the redirect. We may have hit a bump in the road, but I'm not bailing. If there are only a few standing in the end, I will be one of them. Positive thoughts and much respect I send to you.
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Thanks TS. Where would we be without you. You're much appreciated.
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Actually I don't know what to say anymore!! I really don't know weather this is really Micheal's wish or not. Why Elvis !!!! Again, I don't think this was MJ's wish. He always fought solo. He never had so many friends. This is Mike's fight, not Elvise's.
And by the way, does MJ really want the media to know about Elvis and MJ.com?
Have you all forgotten that MJ is the King of pop?? He has connection to the media. He is a partner of Prince Alwaleed who ownes so many companies including the media. If he wants he can just pick up the phone and call him. And the next day everything will be on Times newspaper. He doesn't need us to do that at all. What he really wants is to let the people know the truth and why he faked his death. And Elvis?????
Let him rest in peace. I don't know who exactly will profit by bringing his name to the hoax. Things are getting very suspicious now. I wish Jermaine could say his opinion about all that!!!
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Actually I don't know what to say anymore!! I really don't know weather this is really Micheal's wish or not. Why Elvis !!!! Again, I don't think this was MJ's wish. He always fought solo. He never had so many friends. This is Mike's fight, not Elvise's.
And by the way, does MJ really want the media to know about Elvis and MJ.com?
Have you all forgotten that MJ is the King of pop?? He has connection to the media. He is a partner of Prince Alwaleed who ownes so many companies including the media. If he wants he can just pick up the phone and call him. And the next day everything will be on Times newspaper. He doesn't need us to do that at all. What he really wants is to let the people know the truth and why he faked his death. And Elvis?????
Let him rest in peace. I don't know who exactly will profit by bringing his name to the hoax. Things are getting very suspicious now. I wish Jermaine could say his opinion about all that!!!
But what do you make about all the similarities between Elvis and Michael's death ? Doesn't it looks like Michael inspired himself from what Elvis has done ?
We really are not here to say who is the best and I'm not a fan of Elvis. So I have no particular "gain" in this. Michael can do it yes of course he just has to pick up the phone but it wouldn't make any sense if he does it himself. We have to do it. The medias must know that we exist and that we are on Michael's side. Michael must know that we are here for him.
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Hazzely,
I think you would be amazed just how many support your thoughts but are keeping quiet. I for one came here as well because of Michael and never expected it to turn into an elvis/mike forum.
People are grasping here and seem to be listening to ones that we as a whole have absolutly no idea who they are. As far as Im concerned it could be the very ones that are in charge of this forum. And I say "could be" not that they are. However, why go to the media? Is it for money, just as everyone else is gaining from this Mike hoax or is it out of a genuine love for Mike? Honestly, by going to the media it is merely "smoking" him out. I believe he is alive and I also believe Mike will return when he's damn go and ready.
As far as Elvis, it's not my concern that he is alive and if this Eliza wants to prove that, so be it, thats her fight. Suppose Elvis doesnt want to come out just as Mike doesnt? I say let them be and lets keep our noses out of others business.
I also find that when things around here get seemingly quite, things like this rediculous BS arise. Look at Pearl Jr's latest video. You can not tell me that she is doing that for Mike. Its very obvious that she wants us to see the video and in return she is advertising that ebook shes got. NO thanks, not for me anyway.
I think we all have gotten off the track of Mikes messages all together. We most focus on the message rather than looking at everything and turning it into a conspiracy. Sit back and come to OUR OWN THOUGHTS and OUR OWN CONCLUSIONS without arguments.
After saying all this, I hope people on this forum re-think things and WHY Mo and Souza want so badly to take this to the media.
I am also prepared to get my ass banned but consider it my token of respect to Mike. In the beginning this forum captured my attention but has become a complete waste of time.
Peace and Love always!!
I'm really tired of innuendos, if you have any proof of what you are saying just share it with us, if you don't, please show some respect not only for the admins but also for the members on this forum, we are not sheeps, we are not brainwashed and we are not stupid.
Unfortunatly criticise and invent ridiculous stories about secret agendas is free, now you may think i'm fooled if so i will be pleased if you show me the evidences, but probably you have none. :roll:
They have already explained what are their reasons to do this and you may be agree or not but they are free to do what they want, and i say "they" because i'm not joining this project but I respect people's freedom.
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Hazzely,
I think you would be amazed just how many support your thoughts but are keeping quiet. I for one came here as well because of Michael and never expected it to turn into an elvis/mike forum.
People are grasping here and seem to be listening to ones that we as a whole have absolutly no idea who they are. As far as Im concerned it could be the very ones that are in charge of this forum. And I say "could be" not that they are. However, why go to the media? Is it for money, just as everyone else is gaining from this Mike hoax or is it out of a genuine love for Mike? Honestly, by going to the media it is merely "smoking" him out. I believe he is alive and I also believe Mike will return when he's damn go and ready.
As far as Elvis, it's not my concern that he is alive and if this Eliza wants to prove that, so be it, thats her fight. Suppose Elvis doesnt want to come out just as Mike doesnt? I say let them be and lets keep our noses out of others business.
I also find that when things around here get seemingly quite, things like this rediculous BS arise. Look at Pearl Jr's latest video. You can not tell me that she is doing that for Mike. Its very obvious that she wants us to see the video and in return she is advertising that ebook shes got. NO thanks, not for me anyway.
I think we all have gotten off the track of Mikes messages all together. We most focus on the message rather than looking at everything and turning it into a conspiracy. Sit back and come to OUR OWN THOUGHTS and OUR OWN CONCLUSIONS without arguments.
After saying all this, I hope people on this forum re-think things and WHY Mo and Souza want so badly to take this to the media.
I am also prepared to get my ass banned but consider it my token of respect to Mike. In the beginning this forum captured my attention but has become a complete waste of time.
Peace and Love always!!
I'm really tired of innuendos, if you have any proof of what you are saying just share it with us, if you don't, please show some respect not only for the admins but also for the members on this forum, we are not sheeps, we are not brainwashed and we are not stupid.
Unfortunatly criticise and invent ridiculous stories about secret agendas is free, now you may think i'm fooled if so i will be pleased if you show me the evidences, but probably you have none. :roll:
They have already explained what are their reasons to do this and you may be agree or not but they are free to do what they want, and i say "they" because i'm not joining this project but I respect people's freedom.
God bless you
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Guys, can we please get back to support Michael??? :cry: Arguing like this will not solve anything and if he is reading our posts he will realize that we are divided with different opinions. I understand that this all may seem confused, we are finding it hard to follow. I believe that Mo, Souza, Ts... they are all helping us and helping Michael, not because there is money involved at all, but because they beLIEve. Just as most of us for one reason or another beLIEve as well. It is easier to despair and doubt than it is to have faith and wait patiently and keep fighting.
Remember, that Michael's purpose is to send us a message and making all of us aware of the matters of the world right now. ANd the devil knows it and that is why we doubt and walk away from the truth when it gets confusing. I think these are all battles that we have to fight. My SOldiers of L.O.V.E, please rejoin and let us be guided by Michael. If he is to come back, he will, but we have to beLIEve in Him, we all have to unite.
James 3:16-18 - "For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work."
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Guys, can we please get back to support Michael??? :cry: Arguing like this will not solve anything and if he is reading our posts he will realize that we are divided with different opinions. I understand that this all may seem confused, we are finding it hard to follow. I believe that Mo, Souza, Ts... they are all helping us and helping Michael, not because there is money involved at all, but because they beLIEve. Just as most of us for one reason or another beLIEve as well. It is easier to despair and doubt than it is to have faith and wait patiently and keep fighting.
Remember, that Michael's purpose is to send us a message and making all of us aware of the matters of the world right now. ANd the devil knows it and that is why we doubt and walk away from the truth when it gets confusing. I think these are all battles that we have to fight. My SOldiers of L.O.V.E, please rejoin and let us be guided by Michael. If he is to come back, he will, but we have to beLIEve in Him, we all have to unite.
James 3:16-18 - "For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work."
God bless you
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Hazzely,
I hear ya.
I came close to getting kicked-of here myself for speaking my mind.
One of my topics got locked.
I came here because so much info was in one place and even though I do not agree with 2 theories here, I continued to share what I have thought to be valuable info..
I just wish some"hoaxers" would see the value of respecting Michael's pleas for privacy & would re-direct their energies to something purposeful like helping to clear his name.
I've actually seen TMZ as a sort of experiment.
They have been so inconsistent; sometimes just state facts (as news should be), sometimes really gossipy & other times trashy. Seems at times to have been set-up just to arouse reaction(s). You could be right though; just feeding into the "hoax". I see this much more than a hoax & haven't ever liked that word in ref. to Michael.
I love your sign-off butterfly wish...
1rst song in TII; "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'"
"Yes, I Believe In Me
So You Believe In You"
:idea: always love....
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@Every One,
Romans 12 (Amplified Bible)
Romans 12
1 I APPEAL to you therefore, brethren, and beg of you in view of [all] the mercies of God, to make a decisive dedication of your bodies [presenting all your members and faculties] as a living sacrifice, holy (devoted, consecrated) and well pleasing to God, which is your reasonable (rational, intelligent) service and spiritual worship.
2 Do not be conformed to this world (this age), [fashioned after and adapted to its external, superficial customs], but be transformed (changed) by the [entire] renewal of your mind [by its new ideals and its new attitude], so that you may prove [for yourselves] what is the good and acceptable and perfect will of God, even the thing which is good and acceptable and perfect [in His sight for you].
3 For by the grace (unmerited favor of God) given to me I warn everyone among you not to estimate and think of himself more highly than he ought [not to have an exaggerated opinion of his own importance], but to rate his ability with sober judgment, each according to the degree of faith apportioned by God to him.
4 For as in one physical body we have many parts (organs, members) and all of these parts do not have the same function or use,
5 So we, numerous as we are, are one body in Christ (the Messiah) and individually we are parts one of another [mutually dependent on one another].
6 Having gifts (faculties, talents, qualities) that differ according to the grace given us, let us use them: [He whose gift is] prophecy, [let him prophesy] according to the proportion of his faith;
7 [He whose gift is] practical service, let him give himself to serving; he who teaches, to his teaching;
8 He who exhorts (encourages), to his exhortation; he who contributes, let him do it in simplicity and liberality; he who gives aid and superintends, with zeal and singleness of mind; he who does acts of mercy, with genuine cheerfulness and joyful eagerness.
9 [Let your] love be sincere (a real thing); hate what is evil [loathe all ungodliness, turn in horror from wickedness], but hold fast to that which is good.
10 Love one another with brotherly affection [as members of one family], giving precedence and showing honor to one another.
11 Never lag in zeal and in earnest endeavor; be aglow and burning with the Spirit, serving the Lord.
12 Rejoice and exult in hope; be steadfast and patient in suffering and tribulation; be constant in prayer.
13 Contribute to the needs of God's people [sharing in the necessities of the saints]; pursue the practice of hospitality.
14 Bless those who persecute you [who are cruel in their attitude toward you]; bless and do not curse them.
15 Rejoice with those who rejoice [sharing others' joy], and weep with those who weep [sharing others' grief].
16 Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty (snobbish, high-minded, exclusive), but readily adjust yourself to [people, things] and give yourselves to humble tasks. Never overestimate yourself or be wise in your own conceits.
17 Repay no one evil for evil, but take thought for what is honest and proper and noble [aiming to be above reproach] in the sight of everyone.
18 If possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.
19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave the way open for [God's] wrath; for it is written, Vengeance is Mine, I will repay (requite), says the Lord.
20 But if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals upon his head.
21 Do not let yourself be overcome by evil, but overcome (master) evil with good.
:ugeek:
Peace
:ugeek:
BTW Michael owns Elvis' music... Maybe he wants to give (The publishing rights) back to Elvis/Jesse? :? Something to Think about.
Major Connection between Michael and Elvis... ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_So ... ng_artists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sony/ATV_Music_Publishing_artists)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony-ATV_Music_Publishing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony-ATV_Music_Publishing)
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I'm here for Michael not to fight with anyone..I just voiced my opinion and you jumped at me.
Time will say it all I guess
I think it maybe "Time all" was calling time before there was an arguement, about the statement.
JMT
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Ever notice everything Mo and Souza are associated with ends up in infighting? At original Michael Jackson Death Hoax website they were banned repeatedly for causing chaos. This is their forum and they can do as they like I am just saying there is a history here. They have already gone down that road of talking to Tabloids and it was disasterous. 15 minutes of fame is not worth betraying MJ.
Its MJ'S hoax. He did not need our help to start it and surely does not need our help to end it. I am baffled why some do not listen and place more faith in MJ's own words and not go running off on some wild goose chase on obscure "clues" and shadowy organizations. MJ made it very easy to see he had faked all this early on. That is all he owed us. He clearly says in TII " it will take 4 years to get it right". We may assume he is talking about the environment ...but that is not what he said.
I think he is asking each of us to look at his life as a whole and learn from the wrongs committed against him and the error he made in believing ALL PEOPLE have good intentions. Even some beLIEvers may have latharious motives. He is a great teacher if you listen to HIS words........not the words of others. To pull off a hoax of this size with this particular person you cannot have everyone and their brother involved. There are no people in the "know" , no "insiders". He and a handful of highly trusted folks are on this. A traitor to him could make a fortune and MJ understands traitors. Be patient. Stop looking for things that are not there. Read his life. Listen to his speeches. He will show you he is correct to have done this for himself and his family.
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Ok enough is enough! I'm sick and tired of those comments about Mo and Souza, it's time to stop! Feel free to believe whatever you want but they don't gain a fucking dollar with this website. They don't force you to believe TS or any other. They (we) advice you to think outisde the box and connect the dots. We are not here to bash each other, do you know how hard work they do behind the curtain? Do you know how many time they are spending on this website to let us have THIS board?
Remember: Don't judge a man until you've walked two miles in his shoes.
And about the media stuff... Do you really think that any journalist hasn't read our forum or hasn't thought about the possiblity that MJ hoaxed his death?
Com'on guys this hoax wasn't private since the begining!
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Ok enough is enough! I'm sick and tired of those comments about Mo and Souza, it's time to stop! Feel free to believe whatever you want but they don't gain a fucking dollar with this website. They don't force you to believe TS or any other. They (we) advice you to think outisde the box and connect the dots. We are not here to bash each other, do you know how hard work they do behind the curtain? Do you know how many time they are spending on this website to let us have THIS board?
Remember: Don't judge a man until you've walked two miles in his shoes.
And about the media stuff... Do you really think that any journalist hasn't read our forum or hasn't thought about the possiblity that MJ hoaxed his death?
Com'on guys this hoax wasn't private since the begining!
Halleluia puff!
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@Every One,
Romans 12 (Amplified Bible)
Romans 12
1 I APPEAL to you therefore, brethren, and beg of you in view of [all] the mercies of God, to make a decisive dedication of your bodies [presenting all your members and faculties] as a living sacrifice, holy (devoted, consecrated) and well pleasing to God, which is your reasonable (rational, intelligent) service and spiritual worship.
2 Do not be conformed to this world (this age), [fashioned after and adapted to its external, superficial customs], but be transformed (changed) by the [entire] renewal of your mind [by its new ideals and its new attitude], so that you may prove [for yourselves] what is the good and acceptable and perfect will of God, even the thing which is good and acceptable and perfect [in His sight for you].
3 For by the grace (unmerited favor of God) given to me I warn everyone among you not to estimate and think of himself more highly than he ought [not to have an exaggerated opinion of his own importance], but to rate his ability with sober judgment, each according to the degree of faith apportioned by God to him.
4 For as in one physical body we have many parts (organs, members) and all of these parts do not have the same function or use,
5 So we, numerous as we are, are one body in Christ (the Messiah) and individually we are parts one of another [mutually dependent on one another].
6 Having gifts (faculties, talents, qualities) that differ according to the grace given us, let us use them: [He whose gift is] prophecy, [let him prophesy] according to the proportion of his faith;
7 [He whose gift is] practical service, let him give himself to serving; he who teaches, to his teaching;
8 He who exhorts (encourages), to his exhortation; he who contributes, let him do it in simplicity and liberality; he who gives aid and superintends, with zeal and singleness of mind; he who does acts of mercy, with genuine cheerfulness and joyful eagerness.
9 [Let your] love be sincere (a real thing); hate what is evil [loathe all ungodliness, turn in horror from wickedness], but hold fast to that which is good.
10 Love one another with brotherly affection [as members of one family], giving precedence and showing honor to one another.
11 Never lag in zeal and in earnest endeavor; be aglow and burning with the Spirit, serving the Lord.
12 Rejoice and exult in hope; be steadfast and patient in suffering and tribulation; be constant in prayer.
13 Contribute to the needs of God's people [sharing in the necessities of the saints]; pursue the practice of hospitality.
14 Bless those who persecute you [who are cruel in their attitude toward you]; bless and do not curse them.
15 Rejoice with those who rejoice [sharing others' joy], and weep with those who weep [sharing others' grief].
16 Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty (snobbish, high-minded, exclusive), but readily adjust yourself to [people, things] and give yourselves to humble tasks. Never overestimate yourself or be wise in your own conceits.
17 Repay no one evil for evil, but take thought for what is honest and proper and noble [aiming to be above reproach] in the sight of everyone.
18 If possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.
19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave the way open for [God's] wrath; for it is written, Vengeance is Mine, I will repay (requite), says the Lord.
20 But if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals upon his head.
21 Do not let yourself be overcome by evil, but overcome (master) evil with good.
:ugeek:
Peace
:ugeek:
BTW Michael owns Elvis' music... Maybe he wants to give (The publishing rights) back to Elvis/Jesse? :? Something to Think about.
Major Connection between Michael and Elvis... ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_So ... ng_artists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sony/ATV_Music_Publishing_artists)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony-ATV_Music_Publishing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony-ATV_Music_Publishing)
God Bless you
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Ever notice everything Mo and Souza are associated with ends up in infighting? At original Michael Jackson Death Hoax website they were banned repeatedly for causing chaos. This is their forum and they can do as they like I am just saying there is a history here. They have already gone down that road of talking to Tabloids and it was disasterous. 15 minutes of fame is not worth betraying MJ.
Its MJ'S hoax. He did not need our help to start it and surely does not need our help to end it. I am baffled why some do not listen and place more faith in MJ's own words and not go running off on some wild goose chase on obscure "clues" and shadowy organizations. MJ made it very easy to see he had faked all this early on. That is all he owed us. He clearly says in TII " it will take 4 years to get it right". We may assume he is talking about the environment ...but that is not what he said.
I think he is asking each of us to look at his life as a whole and learn from the wrongs committed against him and the error he made in believing ALL PEOPLE have good intentions. Even some beLIEvers may have latharious motives. He is a great teacher if you listen to HIS words........not the words of others. To pull off a hoax of this size with this particular person you cannot have everyone and their brother involved. There are no people in the "know" , no "insiders". He and a handful of highly trusted folks are on this. A traitor to him could make a fortune and MJ understands traitors. Be patient. Stop looking for things that are not there. Read his life. Listen to his speeches. He will show you he is correct to have done this for himself and his family.
I have to agree with you on this one. We have to stop the HATE, Im sure all of in this forum know that MJ has been innocent from all the nasty accusations and the way that the Media always lied about him. We know he suffered a lot and always said he LOVES us more. Then please, just stop fighting, I believe MJ is alive and he will come back in his own time, but all this fights just make me loose my hope sometimes.Now, if we divide and some accuse MO, Souza, TS, for being impostors, then, what else do we have? Im not saying that Im against or in favor of anybody, but If we do not trust in each other, then how are we going to convince other people that MJ is alive and spread his message?? remember guys, we have to be united, thats how we can help MJ, but like you said, HE also knows that He Pulled the Hoax for specific reasons, and his family is very important to him. Let us give Mike support from our Troops.
It was with L.O.V.E
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Ok enough is enough! I'm sick and tired of those comments about Mo and Souza, it's time to stop! Feel free to believe whatever you want but they don't gain a fucking dollar with this website. They don't force you to believe TS or any other. They (we) advice you to think outisde the box and connect the dots. We are not here to bash each other, do you know how hard work they do behind the curtain? Do you know how many time they are spending on this website to let us have THIS board?
Remember: Don't judge a man until you've walked two miles in his shoes.
And about the media stuff... Do you really think that any journalist hasn't read our forum or hasn't thought about the possiblity that MJ hoaxed his death?
Com'on guys this hoax wasn't private since the begining!
Yes PUFF, That's what I'm talking about.
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Just wondering who highlights the words, "time" and "all", throughout this whole thread, TS or Mo/Souza? Reminds me of MJ's song, For All Time. ALL I know is I love MJ, totally respect TS and so appreciate Mo and Souza for their TIME and faithfullness in maintaining this site. I haven't jumped on board with TS's assignment because I'm not skilled in that area, and I have my doubts as to what it will accomplish. But I do await what the work of the few who did do all the tweeting and emailing will result in. I firmly believe that MJ and his trusted people have this all in a firm hand, and have everything planned out. Someone was saying how even when MJ's "dead" that media and most of the world are still bashing him, and that even with association with Elvis, if MJ was to BAM, the media would somehow manage to twist things to negative. At the 2005 trial when there were 15 or so counts of "not guilty" then the media simply questioned the sanity of the jurors and gave NOTHING positive to say for MJ's decisive victory. I feel there still has to be a lot of surprise events to take place before the BAM will come. MJ is a genius and his BAM is being built brick by brick. This is the best "movie" ever, NO ONE can predict the events, the true villians, the twists and turns, and the outcome, and mostly the scope or scale or immensity (planetary?) of this hoax/project. Who can put a good book down, that's why we're all here!!
Songwriters: Paich, David; Porcaro, Steve; Sherwood, Michael;
Sun comes up on this new morning
Shifting shadows, a songbird sings
And if these words could keep you happy
I'd do anything
And if you feel alone, I'll be your shoulder
With a tender touch, you know me so well
Somebody once said, it's the soul that matters
Baby, who can really tell when two hearts belong so well
Maybe the walls will tumble
And sun may refuse to shine
And when I say, I love you
Baby, you gotta know
(That's for all time)
Baby, you gotta know
(That's for all time)
Moon shines down on this good evening
One warm kiss in this cold night air
For this good love undeceiving
I'll go anywhere, just as long as you are there
And maybe the walls will tumble
And sun refuse to shine
When I say, I love you
Baby, you gotta know
(That's for all time)
Baby, you gotta know
(That's for all time)
The sun in me
All these words that young lovers say
And maybe the walls will crumble
And sun refuse to shine
And when I say, I need you
Baby, you gotta know
(That's for all time)
Baby, you gotta know
(That's for all time)
Baby, you never know
(That's for all time)
Baby, you gotta know
(That's for all time)
Baby, you gotta know
(That's for all time)
Baby, you gotta know
(That's for all time, that's for all time, that's for all time)
See that you'll never go
(That's for all time)
Baby, you never know
(That's for all time)
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Just wondering who highlights the words, "time" and "all", throughout this whole thread, TS or Mo/Souza? Reminds me of MJ's song, For All Time. ALL I know is I love MJ, totally respect TS and so appreciate Mo and Souza for their TIME and faithfullness in maintaining this site. I haven't jumped on board with TS's assignment because I'm not skilled in that area, and I have my doubts as to what it will accomplish. But I do await what the work of the few who did do all the tweeting and emailing will result in. I firmly believe that MJ and his trusted people have this all in a firm hand, and have everything planned out. Someone was saying how even when MJ's "dead" that media and most of the world are still bashing him, and that even with association with Elvis, if MJ was to BAM, the media would somehow manage to twist things to negative. At the 2005 trial when there were 15 or so counts of "not guilty" then the media simply questioned the sanity of the jurors and gave NOTHING positive to say for MJ's decisive victory. I feel there still has to be a lot of surprise events to take place before the BAM will come. MJ is a genius and his BAM is being built brick by brick. This is the best "movie" ever, NO ONE can predict the events, the true villians, the twists and turns, and the outcome, and mostly the scope or scale or immensity (planetary?) of this hoax/project. Who can put a good book down, that's why we're all here!!
Songwriters: Paich, David; Porcaro, Steve; Sherwood, Michael;
Sun comes up on this new morning
Shifting shadows, a songbird sings
And if these words could keep you happy
I'd do anything
And if you feel alone, I'll be your shoulder
With a tender touch, you know me so well
Somebody once said, it's the soul that matters
Baby, who can really tell when two hearts belong so well
Maybe the walls will tumble
And sun may refuse to shine
And when I say, I love you
Baby, you gotta know
(That's for all time)
Baby, you gotta know
(That's for all time)
Moon shines down on this good evening
One warm kiss in this cold night air
For this good love undeceiving
I'll go anywhere, just as long as you are there
And maybe the walls will tumble
And sun refuse to shine
When I say, I love you
Baby, you gotta know
(That's for all time)
Baby, you gotta know
(That's for all time)
The sun in me
All these words that young lovers say
And maybe the walls will crumble
And sun refuse to shine
And when I say, I need you
Baby, you gotta know
(That's for all time)
Baby, you gotta know
(That's for all time)
Baby, you never know
(That's for all time)
Baby, you gotta know
(That's for all time)
Baby, you gotta know
(That's for all time)
Baby, you gotta know
(That's for all time, that's for all time, that's for all time)
See that you'll never go
(That's for all time)
Baby, you never know
(That's for all time)
i've searched "time all" on google and the first result is this song ...
but now we know that it means "time will tell all" so...
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Just wondering who highlights the words, "time" and "all", throughout this whole thread, TS or Mo/Souza?
I asked about redirects a couple of weeks back and was told Mo and Souza have nothing to do with putting them together. It's all down to TS on TIAI.
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Just wondering who highlights the words, "time" and "all", throughout this whole thread, TS or Mo/Souza?
I asked about redirects a couple of weeks back and was told Mo and Souza have nothing to do with putting them together. It's all down to TS on TIAI.
I was just about to say he copies and pastes an extract from a thread, highlights the words and then re-posts the extract on his website. But I see what you mean!!! He doesn't do that as his re-direct is directly into the live MJDHI website. :?
SOUZA...... :?: :?: :?:
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Just wondering who highlights the words, "time" and "all", throughout this whole thread, TS or Mo/Souza?
It's TS. You can also highlight words, go to the search box at the top, type in whatever words you want, and then every post that those words appear in will highlight the words. ;)
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Just wondering who highlights the words, "time" and "all", throughout this whole thread, TS or Mo/Souza?
It's TS. You can also highlight words, go to the search box at the top, type in whatever words you want, and then every post that those words appear in will highlight the words. ;)
I just tried to do that in this thread but I got this response:
The following words in your search query were ignored because they are too common words: time. :?
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Just wondering who highlights the words, "time" and "all", throughout this whole thread, TS or Mo/Souza?
It's TS. You can also highlight words, go to the search box at the top, type in whatever words you want, and then every post that those words appear in will highlight the words. ;)
I just tried to do that in this thread but I got this response:
The following words in your search query were ignored because they are too common words: time. :?
Interesting question indeed! Hopefully Mo or Souza will give us the answer.
With L.O.V.E
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Just wondering who highlights the words, "time" and "all", throughout this whole thread, TS or Mo/Souza?
It's TS. You can also highlight words, go to the search box at the top, type in whatever words you want, and then every post that those words appear in will highlight the words. ;)
I just tried to do that in this thread but I got this response:
The following words in your search query were ignored because they are too common words: time. :?
Hmm, well maybe TS just did it manually, without using the search box.
To highlight words, just go to any post, type in "&hilit=" after "&t=(whatever numbers are here, its diff. for every thread)" and after each word, put a + in between. That way you can highlight only two words.
Like I'll do it my last post on this thread, but I'll highlight the words "Will Highlight" instead ;)
See?: viewtopic.php?f=72&t=12739&hilit=will+highlight&p=213674#p213674 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=12739&hilit=will+highlight&p=213674#p213674)
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Thank you Believe 777 and angel ;)
When the truth is exposed everybody is free to make what they want with it, this is free-will. Nobody can force anyone to believe. The time will come when the truth will be acknowledged by all without the shadow of a doubt.