Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: scorpionchik on July 22, 2010, 10:34:20 PM

Title: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: scorpionchik on July 22, 2010, 10:34:20 PM
Yesterday I hurried to post a thread " Just sent Mr and Mrs Jackson a video of Michael talking and handwritten letters trough me. He is ok, lives on the other side" I found on the Jackson Family Foundation site forum. Kathleen seems completely crazy, however, she reposted "Michael's spirit page on facebook" for fans who wants to "contact" with Michael   :? -  http://www.facebook.com/MichaelJacksonReal16 (http://www.facebook.com/MichaelJacksonReal16)

Today I read replies/fight on that thread of 2 psychics. they are sad and funny. Just  wanted to share with members.

Kathleen Roberts: Just sent Mr and Mrs Jackson a video of Michael talking and handwritten letters trough me. He is ok, lives on the other side. He lives and can email here: http://www.facebook.com/MichaelJacksonReal16 (http://www.facebook.com/MichaelJacksonReal16)
Add him he loves talking with his fans and love emailing now with privacy. He cannot be seen now.
Yes Michael made me one, we met like the movie City of Angels. He saw me grieving and I knew that hid dreams he visited me in were real when he woke me up one morning with what is called astral catalepsy.
The Other Side is where people who have passed away live again. Their body does come out, personality and all, unknown to many in our world. Now it will be known all over. Michael is doing wonderfully you all. Add him on facebook! or email him he has his mind and all! - You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Michael wrote his family letters so he can COMMUNICATE WITH THEM! This is a new kind of mediumship. This is interactive like on the movie Ghost.
Reply by Rita Bryant:   what your talking about is astral projection of travel. Not astral catalepsy. catalepsy is when you are out side of body trying to get back in or experience the same trying to get out of the body. much experience with that. Now i travel with ease. Michael's family dont need nor believe in such things. Mrs. JACKSON IS A WOMEN OF GOD AND DONT NEED YOUR EXPERIENCE IN BETWEEN WORLDS.YOU WILL NEVER GET THAT CONFORMATION. THE JACKSON FAMILY DOES NOT DAPPLE WITH THE OCCULT.BE CAREFUL! EVERY SPIRIT THAT WRITES THROUGH YOU MAY NOT BE RIGHT. TOO MUCH ACTIVITY LIKE THIS LEAVES ONE TO THINK THE SPIRIT MAY BE EARTH BOUND. YOU WATCH TOO MUCH TV. I HAVE A GIFT TOO. I WORK WITH ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS OF ALL PSYCHIC'S SYLVIA BROWNE. I AM PART OF HER CHURCH, NOVICE SPIRITISE. WE KNOW BETTER!
Kathleen Roberts reply: They would want their son back would they not? Use your brains.
Yes it is astral catalepsy. Was dreaming of him, he was REALLY visiting me and woke me up!! I SAW him when I was awake over me! HE spoke in my ear with his voice. How do you think he is speaking out loud. I talk soft he is a man.YOU SAY I'M NOT REAL BUT DO THIS FOR A LIVING? WEIRD.
Rita Bryant reply: you said it! this for profit. gifts to you should be a gift to others. Nothing weird about TRUTH! What you are doing is weird. People already are still missing Michael and you are putting the wrong message in their mind. This is for you. I am 50 years old and have been a psychic from birth. Help many people over the world and still helping those who seek. I know what I am talking about and too much activity of a being who has crossed over leaves me to wonder if he may be earth bound. Since I know that Michael crossed over well, Its your own grief and feelings of lost your picking up. From what i have heard from your video, I know, I am Convinced! Never said you where a fake in words! Just know that it is not Michael Jackson speaking through you and sending emails. He has said all he was ordained by God to say. Nothing else needs to be said! His Mother and family are spiritual people and God fearing people. His mom is Johavoh Witness. They don't accept such things. The info you gave saying it was Michael is not benificial to the family at all. Nothing was about it. There is no time on the other side, Love is of all the same, not like on earth plane, and many people have had dreams of him. We are all connected. watch what spirit speaks through you. As many times it is our own selves and wishful thinking!
Kathleen Roberts: Michael loves the spotlight for fans and loves his family. If you know about mediumship, search Helen Duncan/Physical Medium... I have their autographs signed and all. You do not know Michael, he can't stop loving people! He is doing it for everyone on their side to be known!
Rita Bryant: I forgot to say that what your doing is not new at all. Nothing under the sun is new! some of us can channel others. Just not allot of people being channelled at this time! Spirit writting is not that clear and uniformed as your writting was on video. you mentioned a friend of mine on the video and i tell you he even knows the truth. Place the white light of the HOLY SPIRIT around you if this spirit trys to speak again. It is Not Michael Jackson. You say I do not know Michael! I know Michael very well and his family. I took care of his grandparents here in phoenix Az for many years, until their death. I have spent time with the Man and listen to his wisdom and shared his laughter. His family knows Michael is safe in Gods hands. They are very spiritual people. They dont need this. Trust Me I know they don't. Mrs. Jackson is a strong woman in God and dont need others to tell her what she already knows. And as for people on the other side! They can care less if people on earth know they are there or not. you think they go around bowing their heads with concerns of this world! It wouldn't be heaven if they did. Who cares who believes or not? They will get there one day. If they are not a dark soul.
you may have had this experience. Not saying you did not. NO! Michael is no longer a man. HE IS A SPIRIT! A sweet one that may have came to comfort you. COMFORT! NOT SPEAK THROUGH YOU! Spirit has other ways to communicate with their love ones especially when they are as God fearing people as the Jackson family is. Dont need out side help. Use your brain! They had him already. No they will see him again. They dont want to spirit talk. If they did they would seek it out themselves.
Kathleen Roberts: Hello. Michael is the one talking. Wants to TALK to his loved ones. Wouldn't you? If you know them, tell them, Joseph had a Deville when Michael was little he told me. If you knew them you'd know it. How could I know if it isn't true? He said Katherine made brownies well, Randy and him had 2 pups named scooby and shaggy and Janet and him shared socks and rode the train at Neverland in 2008 before he sold it to say farewell to his ranch. He is Here in me and wants to sing for fans. He has privacy now and loves talking to them now!! Michael is goofy and loves to tell jokes. He is so funny, I never thought he'd be so great. He is also romantic, as he is unseen, his shyness fades when he is in or behind me, so he is more outspoken and flirtacious.
As for the Jacksons. Some families love. Michael passed and cries over not being able to talk to his mom in person as well as the others. He has worried about his mother's religion. They all have not met God yet over there, so Katherine will most likely put her religion aside to speak with her son...mother's love their children this much. Proof is in stories, he is talking, not me, and I know and love him, and he does as he wants through me. He says I look like Tinkerbell, does that dawn on you? Peter Pan and Tinkerbell? He ends up in a relationship with a fan now that he can. No media. I am so happy for him, though he is not always easy to deal with, he is VERY picky over my looks and makes me stressed, and likes things done quickly, I am happy for him and honored to be his lady.
Michael is the one who came through my body and spoke! He got to know me this way and we talked in front of my parents so they would know he is real. He on his own decided he could talk to his family and fans this way. Creative genius as always, and loving man. I have been tested with scizophrenia medicine by parents to see if he and the others were real. The med did not stop him, they thought I had multiple personailities! Or was greiving. Stopped medicine and he is here, my parents know that now and so will you. It is not your decision who wants or does talk with each other. Wouldn't you talk to your loved one f they spoke to you through me for proof? He came to me for comfort and love, then romance, now his family and fans can benefit as well.
Rita Bryant: All that, you can read in any book about the Jackson's. His mother will not put her faith aside for nobody! You ask him for me what was his last words to sistah Rita before he crossed over! If it is him, he will tell you! Be sure to say SISTAH! Other wise, nobody with this girl! This is a place to honor the Jacksons and Michael. Not a sprirt contact forum!
Kathleen: They are people still!!! Have not met God yet, all people are available, no one is in Heaven or Hell, and they are missing loved ones. James Brown misses his widow, and Michael does his family. They do have hurt and have worries.
Rita: You have lost your mind! Girl, go on with that! you are crazy and anybody who thinks Michael is speaking through you is crazy too. At first I could have given you the benifit of a doubt! Now you talking about you his lady and he romantic and all this stuff. You a fanactical Fan! What you doing on this site? You need Jesus!
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: SEHF on July 22, 2010, 11:15:50 PM
:?
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: voiceforthesilent on July 22, 2010, 11:24:48 PM
Wow - I don't even know what to say. I think they need help. No, prayer. No, both help and prayer. Wow. I'm truly worried about the one girl who says Michael speaks through her.
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on July 23, 2010, 12:12:01 AM
What? This really confuses me.  :shock:
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: Keiko on July 23, 2010, 01:07:36 AM
It really bugs me when psychics claim to have talked to deceased celebrities...out of the six billion people on this planet, THEY were the special one? And why is it always someone on the outside that can't even proove they know the family? It really takes away the credibility for the legit psychics out there.

That Kathleen woman is looking for attention and has no idea what she's talking about...I know most people don't have a clue what either of them are saying but Rita is correct in her definition of astral catalepsy, astral projection, and "spirit" (automatic) writing. I (loosely) follow Novus Spiritus as well. What Kathleen is describing is something completely different and impure. I would have to agree with Rita that she should stop communicating with whatever she assumes to be Michael.

Even if I did believe Michael is no longer with us...wow. It sounds like a combination of wishful (and near obsessive) thinking and a spirit she just shoudn't be associating with.  :? The things she is describing...I can speak from a similar personal experience on that from a dark time in my life and I do pray she overcomes it - it's not something another person can talk you out of, though I wish I could help her.
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: lacta89 on July 23, 2010, 02:41:26 AM
I believe in psychics, but these people....I DON'T BELIEVE A WORD!
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: scorpionchik on July 23, 2010, 02:57:38 AM
I will be asking questions both these psychics and tell them I believe Michael is alive. I want to see what will be their reaction & answer. Also, how sure they are who's spirit it is or Michael "cross over"?
maybe that's intheir imagination they see Michael's spirit.

What if Michael not dead but in coma because of mixed overdose  drugs and fights between life and death?  :(   :( I think today I have a negative attitude
   :roll:
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on July 23, 2010, 03:20:29 AM
Guys, I'm not too sure about this.

Look here:
http://www.myspace.com/katr141/photos/6 ... 0040989%7D (http://www.myspace.com/katr141/photos/60040989#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A60040989%7D)

Pictures of letters Michael allegedly wrote to his family using Kathleen's hands to convince them it's really him.  :?  :shock:
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: scorpionchik on July 23, 2010, 03:38:30 AM
Here is more new one:

kathleen:Michael can email through me now. Has his mind and all. Here he is http://www.facebook.com/#!/MichaelJacksonReal16?ref=ts (http://www.facebook.com/#!/MichaelJacksonReal16?ref=ts).  I am his Medium, read my blog about how we met.
Rita: Girl you need to stop it! I do believe in mediumship, but I know Michael is not speaking through anybody, and surely not sending emails. He aint fell in love with you from the other-side. That type of love is only on the earth plane. Everybody loves everybody on the other side.He is done with this life. Everything he needed to say and do, he did that.Remember you are not the only one who has a gift! some of us are true psychic's and know better. . What ever you experienced was for you. not for the world. I have seen him too in my dreams. So has millions of other folks. That's because we are all one! We are all connected. So stop grieving his death and start celebrating his life. We will all be together again.
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: MJ_Facts on July 23, 2010, 03:48:25 AM
:? Mama mia!  :(
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: scorpionchik on July 23, 2010, 03:58:59 AM
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
Guys, I'm not too sure about this.

Look here:
http://www.myspace.com/katr141/photos/6 ... 0040989%7D (http://www.myspace.com/katr141/photos/60040989#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A60040989%7D)

Pictures of letters Michael allegedly wrote to his family using Kathleen's hands to convince them it's really him.  :?  :shock:

THIS IS BS, CRAZY. WHAT THE HELL!  KATHLEEN NOW MY "FRIEND" ON JACKSON FOUNDATION SITE, I AM GONNA AKS HER TO "ASK MICHAEL TELL US HOW HE DIED, WHAT HAPPENED, WAS HE KILLED?" THAT WILL BE THE BEST PROOF OF THIS CRAZINESS!
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on July 23, 2010, 04:28:47 AM
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
Guys, I'm not too sure about this.

Look here:
http://www.myspace.com/katr141/photos/6 ... 0040989%7D (http://www.myspace.com/katr141/photos/60040989#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A60040989%7D)

Pictures of letters Michael allegedly wrote to his family using Kathleen's hands to convince them it's really him.  :?  :shock:

THIS IS BS, CRAZY. WHAT THE HELL!  KATHLEEN NOW MY "FRIEND" ON JACKSON FOUNDATION SITE, I AM GONNA AKS HER TO "ASK MICHAEL TELL US HOW HE DIED, WHAT HAPPENED, WAS HE KILLED?" THAT WILL BE THE BEST PROOF OF THIS CRAZINESS!

Someone else already asked this on the facebook page, here is the convo:

Quote from: "Jordy Smith"
How did you die? Was it murder? Who was involved? There must be a reason that you communicate through Kathleen like in "Ghost" - Sam (the one in Ghost) was still around, because he was a victim, he was murdered...are you still around for the same reasons?

response from "Michael":

Quote from: "Michael Joe"
I am still around for everything honey. I am here to sing again of course, to talk to loved ones and I'm living period. On my side of course. Look up Astral World it is real. Please don't ask about anyone's death anywhere! Rude. Thank you. FAN? That was mean but I am sensitive about it. Still a guy, not a ghost like Casper. I'm also a private person. MJ

then the reply from "Jordy"

Quote from: "Jordy Smith"
Why is it rude? There is a huge discussion going on in the fan community about the circumstances of your death. Many fans are convinced that you have been murdered. If you are truly MJ, then you have the answer. I don't see how this can be rude.

And then no response back from ... "Michael" ...  :roll:
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on July 23, 2010, 04:29:29 AM
First of all a real medium or psychic do not charge people. Secondly I do not believe in them, I had my share of experience that turned sour.  They are publisizing that she heard MJ, and MJ spoke to her that he is fine. Imagine  soon Mj will come out of hiding, I would just like to see their faces, and laugh so much.. Girls Michael is alive, if you are true psychics you would have known by now..  :P
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on July 23, 2010, 04:33:35 AM
And this is a youtube video of Michael allegedly using her hands to sign an autograph as proof. :? :roll:  

[youtube:1oe5csyb]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvLMt2MWlng[/youtube:1oe5csyb]
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on July 23, 2010, 04:41:41 AM
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
And this is a youtube video of Michael allegedly using her hands to sign an autograph as proof. :? :roll:  

[youtube:2576qj7t]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvLMt2MWlng[/youtube:2576qj7t]

It does not look like Michael Jackson signature. Anyone with practice can have a similar signature. Please I find that everyday there is something new just for publicity. Love and blessings
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on July 23, 2010, 04:54:25 AM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
And this is a youtube video of Michael allegedly using her hands to sign an autograph as proof. :? :roll:  

[youtube:1mko5f0d]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvLMt2MWlng[/youtube:1mko5f0d]

It does not look like Michael Jackson signature. Anyone with practice can have a similar signature. Please I find that everyday there is something new just for publicity. Love and blessings

Exactly, i can do his signature too , not as good as him but you know.
Not the kind in the video, the kind like the one on the cover of Moon Walk (when you take the outside cover off)
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: Sangre on July 23, 2010, 06:16:41 AM
The "MJ" replies sound like a bunch of BS. Obviously I can't be 100% sure, but IMO Michael did not believe in that kind of thing - if you have read the Michael Jackson Tapes you get a picture of Michael's views and thoughts.
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: Anneken on July 23, 2010, 06:59:32 AM
Hello guys.To my this is just somwone who is boring himself.I can make Mikes signature too if I first practice enough.
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: MissG on July 23, 2010, 07:39:05 AM
Both of them say that MJ is dead  :?

To me, he is more alive than dead.

Another thing that keept my attention after reading Kathleen posts, is that she is not answering her questions straight and, MJ repliying with a "honey"?, please.

Also, Kathleen seem to be more focused in telling te world HER message "MJ is with me, I am his woman" than telling the world MICHAEL JACKSONs message. Michael, if connecting with another being, would have a message beyond his private choices and the message would be concerning his passing or mission imo.

I do believe somehow that "MJ" could have reach her spiritually to comfort her but, I am very sorry, Kathleen does not give me any trust. Michael´s message should be more than telling the world that he felt in love with a fan and that the fan will write emails from him and receive emails from fans.

Michael loved people, and also cared for the whole world, the earth and poverty, children who needed a life...and this woman can only concentrate in sending out the message "I am sort of alive and in love with this fan who will contact with the rest of the MJ fam"?
What about fiding the truth? what about the message?

MJ may be contacted her for her to heal and cleanse spiritually, to open up her eyes and bring awareness, but imo, she is focusing in the wrong message.

This is not right.
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: brilliantinsh on July 23, 2010, 09:21:44 AM
Why can't these psychics simply tell us that MJ's alive....
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: MashMike on July 23, 2010, 10:00:53 AM
I dont believe them, i mean, yes, there are, indeed, some God gifted ones who can fortell the future, make predictions but i just think that these ones are just attention seekers
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: AgentBJ on July 23, 2010, 10:34:55 AM
What?  :?  :x  :lol:  :cry:  :lol:  :x  :?
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: AgentBJ on July 23, 2010, 10:54:56 AM
Damn...this makes me sad!  :cry:
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 23, 2010, 10:57:18 AM
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
Kathleen Roberts: I have been tested with schizophrenia medicine by parents to see if he and the others were real. The med did not stop him, they thought I had multiple personalities! Or was grieving. Stopped medicine and he is here, my parents know that now and so will you.
He came to me for comfort and love, then romance, now his family and fans can benefit as well.

his shyness fades when he is in...me

Catalepsy - indefinitely prolonged maintenance of a fixed body posture; seen in severe cases of catatonic schizophrenia. The term is sometimes used to denote cerea flexibilitas.
Dorland's Medical Dictionary for Health Consumers. © 2007 by Saunders, an imprint of Elsevier, Inc. All rights reserved.

Catalepsy
A condition that occurs in a variety of physical and psychological disorders and is characterized by lack of response to external stimuli and by muscular rigidity, so that the limbs remain in whatever position they are placed.

Catalepsy - Etymology: Gk, kata + lambanein, to seize
an abnormal state characterized by a trance-like level of consciousness and postural rigidity. It occurs in hypnosis and in certain organic and psychological disorders such as schizophrenia, epilepsy, and hysteria. cataleptic, adj.
Mosby's Medical Dictionary, 8th edition. © 2009, Elsevier.

Catalepsy
stiffening of the body or more commonly a specific body part, such as a limb, which can be induced by hypnosis.
Jonas: Mosby's Dictionary of Complementary and Alternative Medicine. (c) 2005, Elsevier.

Catalepsy
a condition of diminished responsiveness usually characterized by a trance-like state and constantly maintained immobility, often with flexibilitas cerea (a waxy rigidity of muscles). In humans, the patient with catalepsy may remain in one position for minutes, days, or even longer.
Saunders Comprehensive Veterinary Dictionary, 3 ed. © 2007 Elsevier, Inc. All rights reserved

Catalepsy
Psychiatry A state of lowered responsiveness with a trance-like states, which occurs in organic or psychological disorders, or under hypnosis
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictio ... /catalepsy (http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/catalepsy)
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: paula-c on July 23, 2010, 11:10:47 AM
It is true what you say all4loveandbelieve, with a little practice you can fake someone else's writing, this is all garbage. I do not understand any false person appears and people start to lose faith and forget everything we've seen throughout this year.
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 23, 2010, 11:11:08 AM
Kathleen also talks about "OTHERS" being in her as well. There is a difference between connecting with someone and having something or someone Inside of you. I feel very bad for this woman, she has gone off of her medication and seems to be believing that Michael is actually inside her. She also talks about her parents so it seems that she is still under their care and she isn't a child or teen. I think she is suffering from untreated mental illness.
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: Sangre on July 23, 2010, 11:18:16 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Kathleen also talks about "OTHERS" being in her as well. There is a difference between connecting with someone and having something or someone Inside of you. I feel very bad for this woman, she has gone off of her medication and seems to be believing that Michael is actually inside her. She also talks about her parents so it seems that she is still under their care and she isn't a child or teen. I think she is suffering from untreated mental illness.


Sadly, I agree with you. When I say sadly I mean it because she doesn't come across as an attention-seeker, she's delusional and now she's dragging some other people down with her because they believe in what she says.
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: nefari on July 23, 2010, 11:21:20 AM
I totally believe in spirits, angels, Gods and Goddesses but it is a very personal part of my life and I certainly do not make a profit off of it but I think this mess here must be a publicity stunt or someone stirring up trouble. Communication with the other side is a gift and it should be treated and taken as so, not exploited for money or to toy with people.
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 23, 2010, 12:55:56 PM
Astral Catalepsy
Astral Catalepsy is also known as sleep paralysis. This happens when our spirit is coming back into our body, such as when we return from a dream state or from astral travel, and has not fully integrated with our physical body before we begin regaining consciousness.

A person in this state of being may experience:
A feeling of being pinned down
Loud noises
An overwhelming vibration
A threatening presence, dark forms coming toward you
Shortness of breath
Strange lights
Touching sensations
Pressure on the head

We send parts of our spirit selves out to help us resolve our conflicts in life. You may also see several forms standing over your bed. These are various parts of you trying to reintegrate with your physical body and are not to be feared. If you experience sleep paralysis on a regular basis you may want to try some grounding exercises before going to bed.
http://soulsreflection.com/astralcatalepsy.htm

So what Kathleen is describing is not Astral Catalepsy at all.
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 23, 2010, 01:48:10 PM
I went to her myspace as this is really nagging at me. Please read what she writes about herself. She seems to have read about some things regarding astral projection, psychic abilities etc. but is mixing things up regarding these abilities. She seems to believe that Michael is inside of her and will resume his career THROUGH her. She is also trying to make money to get her teeth fixed and other things. This is all very disturbing and bizarre.

About me:
About me I am a Real transchanneler. I am trying to get known as real, but people do not believe in this now. I am here with very well known celebrities coming through me, and I cannot be proven real without the testing of parasycologists.

Here is my story of how I developed: I met Michael Jackson's spirit while I was grieving over him last year. He came to me in my dreams. I have five dreams of him,and then he awakened me with astral catalespy. I realized he was truly there, because I saw his spirit floating above me, and he spoke in to my ear. I had never had a spirit encounter until this. I used to feel tickles in a Retirement home, and realized that they must be spirits, but Michael's was obvious contact. I learned to channel regularly with third eye chakras and meditation for spirit guides. I was successful at this, and did it regularly with Michael. I decided to look up EVP recording, and did so. I heard him singing Billie Jean when I asked him to prove who he is. He made music beats for me. I got to know him this way, and developed a relationship with him. I also developed clairaudience this way. I found out that with Astral Projection that I could meet him in person this way. I did so, and he confirmed afterwards that he was real on EVP. He said it was really happening.

During this time, we grew fond of each other and I developed as a medium. I began to see, feel, and hear others as well. My gift got so good, that I started to hear Michael talking out loud and felt him touching me. I was so excited about this! We got closer and he decided to contact his family online. I also do automatic typing with him, it is so wonderful! He tried to send his family clues it was him, but of course they were not expecting it and ignored the messages, because their have been so many fake psychics out there.

I am on this site because I have been proven real this way- I went to a psychiatrist for social anxiety disorder. I told him I also am a medium, and have so many people around me. I am very shy, and have this problem, which he diagnosed me with. He asked me to show him my ability, and his mother came through me. He told me he wanted to manage me as medium, but I had a strange feeling about him and turned it down. I got this medicine in the mail and was told it was for social anxiety disorder. I took it of course, and it made me have shakes. I looked it up and found that it was for schizophrenia! I was being tested to see if I was a real medium physically! His mother came through and he actually did test me this way without my knowing. I had to take it for my parents also because they did not believe I was real, even after knowing how I developed and seeing it live, they had to be sure. I took it for 3 weeks or so, and found that it did not stop. They saw Michael talking ouloud and moving me, which is how we converse as a real life couple.

We are a couple like on the movie City of Angels. It is the truth. I am willing to be tested by your institute and would love to attend, but I cannot afford the tuition. I wrote Oprah and asked for a makeover, due to my teeth needing a veneers. I want to look nice for these celebrities families and I have no dental insurance.I also asked her for a career start, so Michael and others could meet with their loved ones, and perform again. Michael wants to finish his comeback tour in me! This is Not it he says, he has made me this way, so he wants to do something big with it. Oprah and others are ignoring us, because they don't know what this is and that it is really happening. Please get this going for the world and for me!! Also for Michael's Family ..

http://www.myspace.com/katr141

She has multiple blogs in which she says she is channelling all sorts of people such as Dimebag Darryl, Kut Cobain, Michael Jackson, and John Lennon. She is writing letters to celebrities as well, like Oprah. Seriously this woman seems very ill.

Anyways, I am done with this. It is just too much and I am sure even trying to reach her to discuss what may really be occurring with her would be pointless. I feel terrible though that she is not getting any help and that people are so desperate they are not acknowledging that something isn't right with this lady.
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: missdanipyt on July 23, 2010, 03:04:42 PM
I know a couple people that can write MJ's signature too. It just takes practice. It doesn't even look that good in the video posted here though. I think that all of this "Michael speaking through people" and "psychic" stuff is SUCH bs...
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: MissG on July 23, 2010, 05:16:04 PM
Quote from: "Sangre"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Kathleen also talks about "OTHERS" being in her as well. There is a difference between connecting with someone and having something or someone Inside of you. I feel very bad for this woman, she has gone off of her medication and seems to be believing that Michael is actually inside her. She also talks about her parents so it seems that she is still under their care and she isn't a child or teen. I think she is suffering from untreated mental illness.


Sadly, I agree with you. When I say sadly I mean it because she doesn't come across as an attention-seeker, she's delusional and now she's dragging some other people down with her because they believe in what she says.

I agree with both of you, sadly, but I see it the same way.
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: MissG on July 23, 2010, 05:17:13 PM
Quote from: "Sangre"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Kathleen also talks about "OTHERS" being in her as well. There is a difference between connecting with someone and having something or someone Inside of you. I feel very bad for this woman, she has gone off of her medication and seems to be believing that Michael is actually inside her. She also talks about her parents so it seems that she is still under their care and she isn't a child or teen. I think she is suffering from untreated mental illness.


Sadly, I agree with you. When I say sadly I mean it because she doesn't come across as an attention-seeker, she's delusional and now she's dragging some other people down with her because they believe in what she says.

I agree with both of you, sadly.
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: scorpionchik on July 23, 2010, 10:26:33 PM
Hi everyone, todays weirdest news on Jackson Family Foundation.
1. I asked question to Kathleen how she is sure it's Michael, her answer is :Yes it is, he came to me because I was on a hoax site trying to hold on to him. He told me in a dream that he was upset at me for denying he passed. He was tapping his finger on my table and was mad at me. this was one of the few i had before i met his spirit. There is no hoax but he's alive on the afterlife side, it is hard for you all to understand because it seems unreal. It seems unreal to me too, i am writing a book now.
2.There is a NEW MEMBER on THE SITE CLAIMING HE IS MICHAEL and CALLS HIMSELF Mike 'Pookie' Jackson's Page. The profile info says : Do you have any suggestions on how to improve the Jackson Family Foundation site?
"Mom it's me. I love your Brownies. Dad calls you on Sundays. Girls nails Day Sun.All of ya to help grief. NO MORE Sad Love"White One"CLUESMEThis Is The Real me Mom. You run the site and Dad is the Chairman? This is Pookie, you and Ciara, Liza and Liz call me that. This is called Trance Channeling. Here is how it is done. Mom your grey dress is wrinkled huh. This is ME don't block me!! I am in a Medium who I fell in love with, she was a fan and was a medium born that way! I know you don't believe in this, but would you not want to be with me again? I talk through her and all. Here is MY VOICE DEEP ONE. A message for you like recorded in studio.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLMtXmU2xNM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLMtXmU2xNM)  LISTEN VIDEO.
Get help looking at this it is Corny!! MEEEE PROOF!!!
Here is info on all of this and how we do it. It's made with LOVE CITY OF ANGELS KIND. Love, Your Grandson and son. That is our PROOF and my CLUE it is ME I SAID THAT IN CHILDHOOD! LOVE MICHAEL JACKSON. STILL. DON'T CRY NO MORE. Also there is a picture of the GOST as if it is Michael.
I think that Kathleen's work."    http://www.jacksonfamilyfoundation.us/p ... kieJackson (http://www.jacksonfamilyfoundation.us/profile/MikePookieJackson)
3.Another weirdo claims he is MJ from UK , Michael Jackson King of Pop transfiguration Miracle Vision:
"Hi everyone, my real name is Michael Jackson and I am from London UK. I am a singer, dance, actor, illusionist, spiritual and peace activist, a fan of the King of Pop Michael Jackson. Just to tell you that I was visited by four Angels and one of them was the King of Pop Michael Jackson in a spiritual vision at the night of 08 May 2010 in my flat in London, "The King of Pop is a living Angel spirit guardian of children and he has nominated me as the Prince of Pop" For further information please visit my website at www.michaeljacksonforpeace.com (http://www.michaeljacksonforpeace.com) or MJ Blog News.
We all know that Michael Jackson our King had two families which are his biological family called the Jackson family and his children and the second and largest family is his spiritual family called Michael Jackson Kingdom composed of all his fans, both family have supportedthe King of Pop since his childhood to present, now that we know he is a living Angel in heaven, we must not more have tears. What we have to do now is to think more about the restoration of our Kingdom and not just for several projects which does not help the restoration of our Kingdom, Jackson fans miss the talent of their King physicaly, let image if he was alive, he would come up with new songs and new dances, that is what I mean by the restoration of our Kingdom. Let promote love around the globe and live it as our normal life. Before you juge someone you must love them first said Michael Jackson the King. Together we stand, divided we fail."

Until 2 days ago this site was normal, now something very weird is going on. I am thinking maybe this way Michael is preparing nonbelievers for his comeback, spreading he is alive on "the other side" then he "crossed back" to this side??  
Sounds holly crap to me though
!
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 23, 2010, 11:51:21 PM
@scorpionchik

Have you watched her other videos also. She isn't channelling anyone she is ill.

[youtube:13ee0n2j]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR0SkCIcr50[/youtube:13ee0n2j]
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: MissG on July 24, 2010, 11:50:54 AM
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
Hi everyone, todays weirdest news on Jackson Family Foundation.
1. I asked question to Kathleen how she is sure it's Michael, her answer is :Yes it is, he came to me because I was on a hoax site trying to hold on to him.
!

Do we know which hoax site? May be she can tell what her user name was?
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: MissG on July 24, 2010, 11:51:29 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
@scorpionchik

Have you watched her other videos also. She isn't channelling anyone she is ill.

[youtube:23ew14ik]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR0SkCIcr50[/youtube:23ew14ik]


 :(  :(
Title: Re: Two Psychics Fight Over Michael's Spirit
Post by: paula-c on July 24, 2010, 02:24:15 PM
God .. the things one has to do,......! God give me patience! :?  :lol:
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