Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: Lady J on July 20, 2010, 07:05:52 PM

Title: No trashcans???
Post by: Lady J on July 20, 2010, 07:05:52 PM
Michael Bush calls us idiots, he said this via facebook:


Michael Lee Bush : you idots those cans had water on ice,, remember it was hott!!! and of course ones to recycle the empties,,,,,,

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs514.snc3/27014_115857828432457_100000247211538_199499_5548780_n.jpg)
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: Dancer on July 20, 2010, 07:45:34 PM
"Water on ice" - in TRASHCANS?  :shock:  :|
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 20, 2010, 07:49:32 PM
Did we see anyone drinking bottled water at the "funeral"?
I didn't notice that but maybe I missed it...
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: Dancer on July 20, 2010, 07:51:56 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Did we see anyone drinking bottled water at the "funeral"?
I didn't notice that but maybe I missed it...
You are right, I can't remember seeing anyone drinking something.
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: PJ4MJ on July 20, 2010, 07:54:07 PM
Actually, he called us idots.    ;)
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: suspicious mind on July 20, 2010, 07:54:28 PM
Quote from: "Lady J"
Michael Bush calls us idiots, he said this via facebook:


Michael Lee Bush : you idots those cans had water on ice,, remember it was hott!!! and of course ones to recycle the empties,,,,,,

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs514.snc3/27014_115857828432457_100000247211538_199499_5548780_n.jpg)

does he know we are not talking about larry the calbe guy here? :roll:
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 20, 2010, 07:54:41 PM
[youtube:113rf4hd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qlnGWwU7_8[/youtube:113rf4hd]

I noticed one Lady with a bottle of water. I don't see anyone handing it out or anything. I don't see anyone else with bottled water besides the one woman who holds a bottle and then we also see her drink it later.

Plus what about TMZ zooming in on the garbage at court along with the funny money with Gilda's face on it. The garbage cans outside the hospital and outside 100 North Carolwood Dr when it wasn't garbage day...

That is a lot of Garbage cans filled with ice for bottled bottle. Or maybe everyday was just a different kind of garbage day.
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 20, 2010, 07:59:31 PM
Quote from: "PJ4MJ"
Actually, he called us idots.    ;)

Michael Bush needs his eyes checked and his mouth washed out with soap!
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on July 20, 2010, 08:06:35 PM
water on ice? in a trashcan?

yeah , thats really gross. why not just get a cooler, or something more sanitary than a trashcan :shock: :roll:
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: paula-c on July 20, 2010, 08:07:42 PM
And those in Carolwood also contain water and ice......
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on July 20, 2010, 08:32:41 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
And those in Carolwood also contain water and ice......


Ice you mean diamonds lol.. Just a joke.. Not in carolwood it was really trash.
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: mjboogie on July 20, 2010, 08:43:27 PM
Seems like we need to send Michael Bush a response....I think that it is totally disrespectful to call us all IDIOTS??? Give me a break...no need for the name calling BESIDES why in the shit would there be Ice on water in GARBAGE CANS anyway ALSO..................Why were there all those garbage cans lined up on Carolwood that day...


Ummmmmm if and I do mean IF there was water on ice in THOSE garbage cans.?? Ummmmm Who were the water for? Ben and his crew u know for the Crew that were there that day and the other day and ummm....YEAH SURE. :roll:
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: michaelsupporter on July 20, 2010, 08:44:54 PM
money represents=actors payment
garbage cans represent=nothing but rubbish!
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: mjboogie on July 20, 2010, 08:45:12 PM
Yeah sure they are going to put a bunch of water on ice in GARBAGE CANS Come one!!!! They make coolers in ALL SIZES . :roll: So who is the REAL Idiot MICHAEL BUSH i would say! :twisted:
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: paula-c on July 20, 2010, 08:52:11 PM
all4loveandbelieve, It is for what he said Michael Bush ;)
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: FactFinderMJ on July 20, 2010, 08:55:49 PM
Quote from: "mjboogie"
Yeah sure they are going to put a bunch of water on ice in GARBAGE CANS Come one!!!! They make coolers in ALL SIZES . :roll: So who is the REAL Idiot MICHAEL BUSH i would say! :twisted:

not to mention those cans look used and somewhat sun bleached. they wouldnt do that .. i mean its the frickin jacksons.does he really expect us to believe that?
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on July 20, 2010, 09:02:31 PM
He called us Idiots? Oh really I think he is the scum of the earth, to put ice in the trash cans for bottled water. Even a person who works for minimum wage can afford coolers. Digusting, if I were there I would have rather died of thirst than to go in a trash can to get a bottled water. This is my opinion. Love everyone.  ;)
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: suspicious mind on July 20, 2010, 09:08:34 PM
so lets just say you did use them for this purpose. i think i would try to avoid showing them to the world, wouldn't you ?
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on July 20, 2010, 09:41:54 PM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
so lets just say you did use them for this purpose. i think i would try to avoid showing them to the world, wouldn't you ?


YES... I would that is for sure.
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: voiceforthesilent on July 20, 2010, 10:05:47 PM
Quote from: "mjboogie"
Seems like we need to send Michael Bush a response....I think that it is totally disrespectful to call us all IDIOTS??? Give me a break...no need for the name calling BESIDES why in the shit would there be Ice on water in GARBAGE CANS anyway ALSO..................Why were there all those garbage cans lined up on Carolwood that day...


Ummmmmm if and I do mean IF there was water on ice in THOSE garbage cans.?? Ummmmm Who were the water for? Ben and his crew u know for the Crew that were there that day and the other day and ummm....YEAH SURE. :roll:

I agree with you but please don't start a war of words with this Michael Bush. Remember...L.O.V.E. It might be best just to let it go. If he does know the truth, what do we expect him to say? He has to be quiet, right?

Garbage cans (clean, new, unused) are sometimes used to hold ice and drinks but think about it - they paid millions of dollars for that funeral. Celebrities are there in their $1000 outfits. They are riding in expensive cars...and they purchase $30 garbage cans to hold drinks for everyone? And they put the beverage containers so far out of everyone's reach? They didn't even get matching garbage cans. Gee...doesn't sound like the attention to detail that we saw from the memorial and funeral. Every little detail was taken care of. They would not have used the garbage cans for a beverage holder.
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: darkchild on July 20, 2010, 10:09:15 PM
Quote from: "Dancer"
"Water on ice" - in TRASHCANS?  :shock:  :|

That is my sentiment exactly! :shock:

Quote from: "MJFAN7"
water on ice? in a trashcan?

yeah , thats really gross. why not just get a cooler, or something more sanitary than a trashcan :shock: :roll:

Exactly, who would use a trash can as a water cooler? :?:  :?   That is totally unsanitary!
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: suspicious mind on July 20, 2010, 10:19:28 PM
it's kind of funny why would they be mad at us? is we are dilusional shouldn't they be having pity instead?
Title: Re: No trashcans???
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Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: Grace on July 20, 2010, 10:49:46 PM
At 2.25AM on September 1st Kenny Ortega tweeted:

“Smee: Captain, the ice is melting, the sun is out and the flowers are all in bloom
Captain Hook: He’s back”
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: MYLOVELYONE on July 20, 2010, 10:57:54 PM
well if he is talking about the ones that are on michael jackson's house is ridiculous
and on the funeral with all the celebrities yeah sure ice for them in trascans lol
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: PJ4MJ on July 20, 2010, 11:00:43 PM
This is the Michael Bush that was on that special with Karen Faye; am I right?  If so, those two have been the only ones with really harsh statements towards this group.  Everybody else seems to not address it or do it in a more neutral way.  Just an observation...not sure it means anything.
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: sk2001 on July 20, 2010, 11:15:02 PM
Well in America, its normal to use new/unused trashcans for events such as sports events or concerts etc so even if we consider that the trash cans were used for ice for an outdoorsy funeral, what would be the need of them outside a hospital? Hospitals usually have cafeterias or vending machines. I have never in my life seen anyone going out of a building to get ice from a trash can. And what about his house?? Really?? Mj stored his ice outside his estate in a trash can on the street? That would explain all the media peeps outside his house all the time- who wouldn't want to get a glimpse of the king of pop filling his beverage with ice from a trash can!!
I am amazed at what these people think we'll buy or fall for. What are we, idiots? :p
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: suspicious mind on July 20, 2010, 11:42:08 PM
Quote from: "Lady J"
Michael Bush calls us idiots, he said this via facebook:


Michael Lee Bush : you idots those cans had water on ice,, remember it was hott!!! and of course ones to recycle the empties,,,,,,

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs514.snc3/27014_115857828432457_100000247211538_199499_5548780_n.jpg)

who was he responding to and what did they say origingally? he may have only been talking about the funeral episode of :P to die would be a great adventure
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: 2MuchMJLuv on July 20, 2010, 11:54:50 PM
This is interesting because my Aunt passed away a couple of months ago and water was distributed from several styrofoam ice chests by the cemetary's staff......and it was at a Forest Lawn memorial park!!!! Ha!!!! In fact, they were cute lil' mini bottles of water with a customized "Forest Lawn" label. Considering what the Jacksons paid for his service, it's shocking that his mourners and family would be served bottles of water from a damn trash can. I wouldn't drink water from a trash can at a beach or an outdoor bar-b-que. Actually, he's the idiot for suggesting that. It's better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: 2good2btrue on July 21, 2010, 12:19:26 AM
There was staff at the Funeral handing out drinks at the door of Holly Terrace.  I remember seeing a long table that had drinks etc on it, as people came out of the Mausoleum.............it is on the live footage of the funeral.  Also there was a car marked "Party" which generally means the food and beverage people....xoxo
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: wishingstar on July 21, 2010, 01:01:16 AM
This is crazy.....
any chance of seeing a link to this facebook?  I totally believe it was said.....I am just smelling clue LOL!  I like the reminder about Kenny's tweet....Smee Captain......
was idiots spelled correctly?  That correlation about the game was wild.....sounds interesting!  
So, if I understand, he is implying that all those trash cans outside Carolwood were full of ice and water?  That would make sense.......IF A FILM CREW WERE THERE  :lol:  :lol:  Why would there be ice and water in those?  It's not like this was a planned event, right?
The gematria for idiots is pretty great, however, if it really was misspelled..... hold on to your knickers, get your champagne and fireworks ready ......... here are the links to each spelling:

http://www.gematrix.org/?word=idiots (http://www.gematrix.org/?word=idiots)
http://www.gematrix.org/?word=idots (http://www.gematrix.org/?word=idots)
(remember the number 67....idots)

I also did a thread called, "Garbage Cans and the Perfect Date"
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=10709 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=10709)

I have to sit and think right now, I'm a little  :shock:

to be continued........ :)
Many Blessings!

PS.....one more before I go....the numbers for idiot= 76
the number for idots = 67    reverse, mirror image etc....interesting
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: 2good2btrue on July 21, 2010, 01:37:49 AM
Is this a table were staff served drinks???
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: nefari on July 21, 2010, 01:53:45 AM
First of all the cans were WAYYYYYYYYYYY the heck out of the way and if it was soooo hot I'm sure all of these celebrities really want to get up and walk back and forth getting water *and out of garbage cans no less*. I dont even think, say a person put in charge of giving out water, would want to keep walking that far out of the way to run bottles back and forth. Yeesh this is crazy and stupid. With all of that money being thrown around they could have had coolers placed next to each asile of chairs full of water etc...and if they can have bouncy little dancers parading around in PT Barnum outfits looking like they are handing out cocktail peanuts then.....I'm so sure there was water in those cans :lol:
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: MashMike on July 21, 2010, 02:57:51 AM
does he really think that we would believe that BS, yeah, sure, ice in trash cans and who's the idiot now?!
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: Anneken on July 21, 2010, 05:14:09 AM
Hello guys,is everyone fine?I NEVER EVER HEARD CRAP LIKE THAT!Water in trash cans,I would not drink it.There are special machines for cool water but I never saw them outside.
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: Game Player on July 21, 2010, 05:27:50 AM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
Is this a table were staff served drinks???

How rude of them to make the guests walk so far for ice on such a hot day.
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: nefari on July 21, 2010, 06:34:01 AM
Is everyone still at a loss for shedding any light on what the heck that floaty looking oblong alien spaceship is???? I mean there has to be somebody that knows. This just bugs the daylights out of me.
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: GirlInTheMirror on July 21, 2010, 09:39:23 AM
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
water on ice? in a trashcan?

yeah , thats really gross. why not just get a cooler, or something more sanitary than a trashcan :shock: :roll:
Exactly.. I mean, as if the Jackson family couldn´t afford or come up with anything more classy (especially for a funeral) for the beverages than trash bins!!
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: wishingstar on July 21, 2010, 09:52:06 AM
Can someone post the link to Bush's facebook?  I want to read it/see it.....maybe there is more to how it was written.....use of capitals, misspelling, etc.........

Thanks a bunch!

L.O.V.E.
&
Blessings
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 21, 2010, 09:59:08 AM
Quote from: "nefari"
Is everyone still at a loss for shedding any light on what the heck that floaty looking oblong alien spaceship is???? I mean there has to be somebody that knows. This just bugs the daylights out of me.

It is a light, a similar one was used in TII for the Green Screened and the footage from inside the studio/sound satge.
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: SEHF on July 21, 2010, 10:08:35 AM
I can't imagine handing a celebrity a bottle of water from a trash can or a recycling bin..  <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

There wasn't even enough people there to fill all of that garbage up and if they were actually being used you'd think the cans would have been out of view of the families ridiculous 'HD quality' coverage of the funeral.
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: paula-c on July 21, 2010, 10:22:48 AM
Garbage at the entrance of a hospital?,  8-)
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: Cameron on July 21, 2010, 10:58:41 AM
Quote from: "SEHF"
I can't imagine handing a celebrity a bottle of water from a trash can or a recycling bin..  :lol:

There wasn't even enough people there to fill all of that garbage up and if they were actually being used you'd think the cans woudl have been out of view of the families ridiculous 'HD quality' coverage of the funeral.

 :arrow: I agree with you !
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: Amber on July 21, 2010, 03:12:25 PM
I dont know how you American friends do the water thing but however its done, IMAO Michael Jackson is not going to have a street full off ice filled dustbins with water bottles in it, why would he?!  :roll:   and on THAT day too...  im curious though as to how the ice is kept frozen in thoses kind of temperatures  :?
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: mumof3 on July 21, 2010, 03:59:24 PM
That's a posh idea

In this day of state of the art contraptions
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: PureLove on July 21, 2010, 04:47:52 PM
The point is, this guy told how he dressed Michael for his funeral and how he had to carry his body into the coffin and some believers asked him about the trash cans in some of the areas?  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  Sorry guys but what were you thinking?  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I seriously do not understand why some people insist on asking questions about the hoax to some people who are very opposed to the idea of the hoax like Karen Faye, Michael Bush etc. Isn't their answer so predictable? Why need to ask them? Anyways, according to Bush's reply, we're as stupid as the ones who used trash bins as a cooler in the King of Pop's funeral.
;)
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: paula-c on July 21, 2010, 07:06:27 PM
Neither is more humble memorial service water Garbage, This man everything what he says is a lie, and the worse thing is that there are people who believes these things 8-)
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: reading_on on July 22, 2010, 06:54:51 AM
This board drives me bananas. You have a list of people posting comments and some people have logical explanations for things.. like someone posted how UNUSED, CLEAN, NEW trashcans ARE used for ice and drinks aka water, and then someone comes along four posts later and starts saying something much like the trashcans were unsanitary. Why oh why does people not read other people's posts and if they do, do they just ignore them?
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: wishingstar on July 22, 2010, 11:24:11 AM
Quote from: "reading_on"
This board drives me bananas. You have a list of people posting comments and some people have logical explanations for things.. like someone posted how UNUSED, CLEAN, NEW trashcans ARE used for ice and drinks aka water, and then someone comes along four posts later and starts saying something much like the trashcans were unsanitary. Why oh why does people not read other people's posts and if they do, do they just ignore them?

I think the point folks are trying to make is that no matter how new, clean, sanitary they were, they are still trash cans....not Jackson style at all.  I have never seen or heard of trash cans being used in this way...clean or otherwise.  A few posts ago, I commented it made no sense to have them out in front of Carolwood.......it wasn't a planned event.....supposedly.  I also have been asking for a link to this facebook page, so we can read it.....can anyone post it?  I don't do facebook...I knowww, cave-person I am  :lol:

Thanks!
Blessings!
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: PJ4MJ on July 22, 2010, 02:25:16 PM
New trash cans have been used to hold ice/water bottles/soda cans/beer kegs, but only at a party, picnic, BBQ or some other totally informal gathering (I live in the U.S.).  I highly doubt Forest Lawn would use them for this purpose.  Besides, 2MuchMJLov already posted that at a recent funeral he/she attended at FL, they had their own water bottles in styrofoam ice chests.  I think this thread has sufficiently answered both issues:  Michael Bush is lying - BADLY, and most people have never seen ice in a trash can unless they live in the U.S.  Moving on...
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: paula-c on July 22, 2010, 02:36:26 PM
I have also filled garbage cans with beer and ice :lol:  .. but remember is that it did not seem a funeral, looked like a wedding or a baptism :mrgreen:
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 22, 2010, 04:10:25 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
I have also filled garbage cans with beer and ice :lol:  .. but remember is that it did not seem a funeral, looked like a wedding or a baptism :mrgreen:
I am positive that if my family was having an elaborate funeral for me and many celebrities would be attending, it would be appropriate to serve them their beverages from garbage cans new or old. Especially if this was televised to millions of people all over the world. Makes sense?  ;)
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on July 22, 2010, 04:22:24 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "paula-c"
I have also filled garbage cans with beer and ice :lol:  .. but remember is that it did not seem a funeral, looked like a wedding or a baptism :mrgreen:
I am positive that if my family was having an elaborate funeral for me and many celebrities would be attending, it would be appropriate to serve them their beverages from garbage cans new or old. Especially if this was televised to millions of people all over the world. Makes sense?  ;)



Perfect sence to me ;)  :lol:

Oh goodness one year on and we are still discussing the "garbage cans" there must be more to life than this!

edit : just realised Michael wrote a song about this "there must be more to life than this! just seems appropriate "why do we go into such depth" over such trivia when we should be trying to spread his message!

Michael Jackson There Must Be More to Life Than This Lyrics:

There must be more to life than this
There must be more to life than this
How do we cope in a world without love
Mending all those broken hearts
And tending to those crying faces

There must be more to life than living
A better way for us to survive
Why should it be just a case of black or white
There must be more to life than this

Why is this world so full of hate
People dying everywhere
[ Find more Lyrics on http://mp3lyrics.or (http://mp3lyrics.or)
And we destroy what we create
People fighting for their human rights
But we just go on saying c'est la vie
So this is life

There must be more to life than killing
There must be more than meets the eye
What good is life, if in the end we all must die
There must be more to life than this

There must be more to life than killing
There must be more to life than this
I live in hope for a world filled with love
Then we can all just live in peace

There must be more to life, much more to life
There must be more to life, more to life than this
Lyrics: There Must Be More to Life Than This, Michael
Jackson [end]

Just Sayin  ;)
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: ConfusedLOVE on July 22, 2010, 04:47:08 PM
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
water on ice? in a trashcan?

yeah , thats really gross. why not just get a cooler, or something more sanitary than a trashcan :shock: :roll:
That was what I was thinking.  If it is that hot to need that MUCH water on ice why not put it in coolers.  Plus if it was that hot the ice would have melted quickly, and if I remember correctly they where at the funeral for a long time!  They would have to keep emptying out the melted ice and putting more in!
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: wishingstar on July 22, 2010, 06:16:12 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
I am positive that if my family was having an elaborate funeral for me and many celebrities would be attending, it would be appropriate to serve them their beverages from garbage cans new or old. Especially if this was televised to millions of people all over the world. Makes sense?  ;)

You are hilarious!  :lol:
Now, maybe if those cans were gold plated with lots of bling....maybe Ed Hardy style?  :lol:

Blessings!
Title: Re: No trashcans???
Post by: darkchild on July 22, 2010, 10:48:08 PM
I was just wondering, if there are any photos of celebrities at the funeral getting served cold drinks out of the trash can-coolers.  Thank you in advance. :)
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